They also forget that Andre iguodala and Andrew bogut both got injured and game five and Draymond Green was suspended in game 4 and it still took them two more games to beat curry and the warriors
Curry and Klay are the best shooters to ever play in my opinion and you add bron to that. Need I say more u wouldn’t be able to guard Lebron that would be a bron u have never seen before.
Lol he gets payed to say that I don’t take any of these ppl nba opinions serious Shannon admitted he didn’t watch basketball in his nfl career sooo…yet Shannon opinion on bball is supposed to be facts lol they all jus push narratives for clickbait
I've never understood the narrative that the Warriors had to get KD because they "knew they couldn't beat the Cavs" when they were up 3-1 and ended up losing by 1 possession in game 7, like where do people get this from?? An MVP, top 3 player in the league becomes available, who WOULDN'T go after him??
It’s the same people who discredit Kd saying warriors didn’t need him to win a ship. They use whatever narrative no matter contradicting or not to fit their bill
What you see Steph doing now is post Shaq Kobe 2.0, remember when everyone said Kobe was a scrub and only won bc of Shaq? and then Kobe made his life's mission to prove them wrong. The same thing is happening with Steph
I actually really like that analogy, but not quite the way you put it. In retrospect, I think most people are going to eventually understand that Curry was the Shaq of that duo, the player who was clearly the most impactful on the team, and Durant was the Kobe of that duo, the player who wasn’t quite as valuable as the other player, but was exactly what the team needed to put them in all-time great category.
I remember playing basketball in the hood, 2007, and someone said, kobe won because of Shaq Shaq Shaq Hating hard. I'm glad sports narratives can change.
Skip disqualifying Steph as an all time great for recruiting the best free agent that summer is ridiculous. If that’s the case, KD shouldn’t be an all time great cus he joined the best team in the league for a better chance at a chip rather than get beat again running it back with OKC
Eskeeepp common sense KD wants out... Warriors got the mula to sign him...Steeep doesn't own Warriors brother.....it's all business...KD took advantage...he got 2 rings bro...
@@Barak144 honestly i though they were miles better than the cavs, kyrie and bron just were have the game of their lives as well as the rest of that 2016 roster
@Lucas Walker not really. Drayton would just fully focus on being a defensive threat instead of worrying about playmaking because no matter how good of a playmaker Dray is LBJ is just much better decision maker. And LeBron wouldn't need to be a shooter, once again he is a facilitator with an unbelievable iq.
@Lucas Walker lmao wtf no. That’s literally an UNGUARDABLE team. Lebron has the biggest gravity inside and Steph/Klay have the biggest gravity outside. You literally CAN NOT HELP off your man when one of them makes a move because it opens up either the paint or the perimeter. That’s in addition to Lebron’s ability to pass at an all time great level. Just imagine if, instead of Kevin Love and Jr smith, he had Steph Curry and Klay Thompson💀
I’ve only seen him change his position on a player twice and it was involving the same player, Kawhi Leonard. Loved him on the Spurs hated him in Toronto loved him again on the Clippers. As far as Lebron, Curry, Jordan, Brady, etc. Skips got his mind made up and nothings changing it. Pretty dumb if you ask me because you should always reevaluate when you get new information.
@OhNah he gives them length and athleticism in the post. since he actually has decent offensive post skills he makes it even harder for defenses to try and focus on the perimeter because they can start feeding him inside and he has enough offensive awareness to start scoring inside where a lot of guys these days are just out there to clog up the middle...
Doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be better once they get back. Sometimes more players can hurt a team’s chemistry. Look what happened to the Celtics when Kyrie and Hayward came back
@@sachemofboston3649 kyrie and Hayward are ball dominant players…klay won’t hurt chemistry and you don’t need much from wiseman…I doubt they’d be anything less than better with them back.
Because it's only 1 series you guys overrate that series so much and Klay was the reason the Warriors won game 6 without him the Warriors get eliminated
I can't believe how Skip can do anything to make KD look good. Last game when KD went 0-8 in 3rd and didn't play in 4th, he was not held accountable. If it was LBJ or Steph who went 0-8 in any game Skip would be spilling his guts out
Skip saying curry went and begged durant to save them, save them from narrowly losing in game 7 of the NBA finals? While steph was on a bum knee ,Nah steph recruited Durant cause who wouldn't he was the best player in free agency and they needed an upgrade on Harrison Barnes, Durant should've went somewhere else cause the decision was up to him and he joined the team that beat him.
This whole begging Durant is a fanfiction made by media nerds to enhance Lebrons legacy. You telling me an organization with Jerry West the goat exec had their players beg another star to join them? Lmao Draymond in tears these idiots are like 15 yo teen girls on Tumblr. If you believe that nonsense then you should definitely eat more vegetables
Green recruited KD not Curry, that narratives is bs made up by media, KD asked for Curry's blessing which is the only reason Curry even came to that hotel lol, Curry was on tour for Under Armour when the front office called him up and he came back to help the team Curry recruited Iggy
Steph was on a bum knee but averaged 30 the series prior. Right. Yet he was still sprinting around the court and doing step backs on the same leg y’all claim was messed up. Why couldn’t he at least average 30 against the cavs? If kd never came cavs would have possibly 3 peated. And if kyrie never got injured they wouldn’t even have 1. They owe everything to KD 😂😂
Y’all really think Steph beg or even ask that man to come, Draymond story MAYBE true but the media got y’all fooled saying GS ran to get KD to beat LeBron or this or that - 😒🙄
Literally unheard of. If warriors manage to win it all with steph playing like himself, he takes over as best PG ever( he’s second right now) and he’d be top 4 all time IMO. Possibly 3
Steph didn’t need KD to “save” them, his team was 73-9 and they beat KD’s team to get to the finals. If anything KD joined a team that showed him up in the conference finals.
He literally flew a bunch of people to recruit him, what does that say? We need you we should combine forces. Nobody that is competitive in a sport where individuality is so huge thinks that way but to actually go back and prove yourself. Steph showed he isn’t that competitive when he sat a whole year when Klay got injured due to his wrist lol LaMelo got the same injury and barely missed games. He probably played the following year because he had to. It’s a true story it’s factual and it’s out there that they went on a group to try and recruit KD so they could win certainly
@@Brasi7 question, as a former coach do you think you could’ve done a better job than any NBA coaches throughout time? Or do you think it’s one of those situations akin to Brian Scalabrine telling college kids that he’s closer to LeBron than the kids were to himself?
Does anyone remember Steph Sprained his m.c.l in game 4 vs the rockets after missing 2 games with a sprained ankle in that same series? He was basically carried off the court with the sports world holding its breath. Initially they thought he was gone for the playoffs but it ended up being a sprain which was supposed to sideline him for 4 weeks. Of course with it being the playoffs he came back in 15 days. He clearly wasn't himself he could turn it on sometimes, but if anybody remembers Tristan Thompson was guarding Steph on the perimeter playing press defense and Steph couldn't shake him loose 😂😂😂. Thats damn near impossible for Tristan with a healthy Steph! Thats the only reason the thunder was able to get a 3-1 lead. He's gonna prove he's been the best in the league since 2016
This is just a BOLD FACED LIE lmao... Poole, Wiseman, JTA, Kuminga, Moody, Lee, and Payton II have never made the playoffs. Half their roster. Wiggins has only made it once (5 total games). Bjelica has only made the playoffs twice (7 total games). Porter Jr. has made the playoffs 4/9 years and has never made is past the 2nd Round. The only players with playoff experience is Curry, Klay, Green, Iguodala, and Looney. The only players who have been here for a while.
@@KehindeRa 1. Playoff experience matters most when ur goal is trying to win a championship. 2. The 2021-22 Warriors has 87 years of total experience. The 2015-16 Warriors had 96 years of total experience. So again, what is said just isn't true. Any way you slice it...
"Kevin Durant please save me" Never came from Steph. Strawman Skip is pushing this false narrative too far. Durant was a FREE AGENT. When arguably the best player in the league becomes a free agent and declares he is leaving his current team, everyone recruits him. Steph and the entire organization figured they'd be a better team if they had Kevin Durant. Exactly the same thoughts went through the mind of every player and every executive. Not at least putting a pitch in would have been irresponsible. They landed the best free agent and won multiple titles and will go down as perhaps the greatest team of all time.
There was literally a video clip the other day from this show where Skip said Russell Westbrook...sorry...Westbrick....and he said it with a straight face like he was genuinely apologizing for calling him Westbrook instead of Westbrick 🤣🤣
This team might be more aesthetically pleasing to watch like the pre-KD warriors but ain't no way they are better...With KD, they were a less fun team to watch but they were unbeatable.
Seriously Skip, you have said multiple times that Lebron is the best passer in basketball and now you say he couldn't have won a championship with two of the best shooters of all time. Shannon's take is non bias and totally accurate with basketball IQ substance.💯
i feel like a kd vs steph debate is reasonable now, but if steph wins mvp and especially if he wins the championship, idk if there should be a debate anymore
How? Did you forget that game when Curry hit that dagger 3 from deep on Thunder? How about Thunder being up 3-1 and the Warriors sealed that deal. They just played recently and once again Curry showed out on Nets. I mean KD only has him beat with finals mvp.
Curry has 3 titles, 2 MVP's, 2 scoring titles, 1 stealing title KD has 2 titles, 2 fmvps, 1 MVP, 1 scoring title Only reason this is even a discussion is cause KD has more all star and all NBA titles on his name
@@_Solum or if the nets and warriors happens. Because I'm not sure it will. Without Kryie they can't make it out the east. Now the warriors can only get better
And I think KD should be thankful they did choke at 3 to 1 lead cuz if they didn't he wouldn't have no championships right now or finals MVPs because he would have never got there again 🤦🤔🤷
@@adriandantedanosos4146 and what has KD done other than a scoring title and what one MVP before he got to curry and what has he done after cuz I could tell you what Curry done before Kevin Durant he had two MVPs one unanimous the best record in NBA history and a championship with two finals appearances and after they broke up he's got a score and title and right now he's leading the league and scoring ain't got the best record so once again Kd should thank the warriors 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Stephen playing is so amazing, he really loves what he does. And I love the way he treats his teammates. For sure he is the best. Playing for the team, not to himself.
Wait a minute, Skip really replied "yes" to Shannon asking if he thought LeBron w/ Steph, Klay, & Draymond would've lost to KD and Kyrie? Man GTFOH with that Skip!
Skip, how could Durant and Kyrie beat LBJ, Steph and Klay in the finals when Durant, Kyrie (and Harden) couldn’t even get past Giannis and the Bucks last season
Man stop it you know damn well this take is a lie Giannis didn't play all three of them together and Kyrie and Harden both missed several games in that series because of injuries
Man love how Shannon gives credit to each player as they deserve and talks about the whole picture not only about what he sees as a fan. My favourite by far
I'm 41 and I've never seen a shooter better than Curry right now!! Curry and Thompson have been the best shooting guards in the NBA for years now. They could win another title within a year or 2
I'll buy a 2022 championship hat of the Warriors too. That one, I'll keep. Memories of listening to Stephen A. back in Nov 4, 2021 when he was officially picking the Warriors and being right which is a rarity from him or me.
There’s really no way to compare until the second half of the season. Only thing for certain is Steph is just better. And that has a domino effect on everybody. Everybody does better because Steph is better.
I'm digging the Warriors' new City Edition jerseys. If they win me money, I'll buy one for Steph or Klay. It's similar to the Lakers' that is black and yellow. LeAdam won't get in the way like in 2016. He wants high jersey sales.
Steph, Klay, Draymond, Poole, Wiseman, and Kuminga were drafted by the Warriors. Only THT was drafted by the Lakers. All the Lakers and LeBron do is buy their way to win rings. Not homegrown like the 2015 Warriors.
@@jayh825 Let's see what happen at the end of this season when Lebron lose again with his super team. Yeah you can argue GSW got another superstar but hey then gone to 3 finals with it. Lebron & AD are in their 3rd year with Lakers and they have only been there once.
2015 warriors had time to develop...lebron doesn't have 3 or 4 years to wait until rookies develop hence he gets veterans that's why he left when they drafted Collin sexton
15:38 LMFAO how can you say KD and Kyrie can beat literally the two greatest shooters in NBA history with arguably the greatest player of all time ??? no one is guarding Klay and Draymond
Give my Cleveland Cavaliers some respect! We had a 22-9 lead over Golden State early in the first quarter. We were able to hang with the Warriors for a large majority of the game. But because half our roster is injured, we ran out of gas at the end.
Holy cow I disqualify anything Skip Bayless says! He only brings up stats when they make his player look good in the other player look bad but if they make his player look bad he's not talking about them
Shannon should've made the next question: "if Curry and KD both retire after that 2015/16 season, who would be feeling better with their careers as they were in that moment?" Obviously Steph because he was already a champion at least once... so who benefited the most out of that union.
Disagree.. boguts impact was overrated. I’d argue javale McGee was an overall better fit for the warriors. They do need a big who’s hella athletic. Hopefully wiseman fits that role when he comes back.
@@alonewolfsoulgdl1733 for a #1 overall pick yeah night was overrated. And he wasn’t a good passer.. Man only averaged 2.7 and 2.3 assists.. which was 2014 and 2015. Javale was a more athletic defender.
Skip just proved he do not like LeBron in this segment. He said KD going to the Cavs and Bron going to the Warriors with the exact same lineups, that KD and Kyrie would beat Bron, Klay, Steph and Draymond 🤣🤣…I cannot take Skip serious at all
Warriors (1) vs. Lakers (8) in the 1st round. Steph needs to prove to the world he doesn't need KD to beat a healthy LeBron team. Revenge for the sham in 2016.
Skip you out yo mind! I was with you all the way up until you said that KD on the Cavs would've beaten Lebron on the Warriors! You serious? Nah, you just wanted to get under Shannon's skin, lol.
Skip is acting like Steph was Kd sidekick.. like he was the Khris to giannis or pippin to Jordan… no Kd and Steph duo was more like Shaq and Kobe or Kareem and magic where both were near equal in talent and production
The teams they have been beating have been balling or been projected to be serious playoff contenders. Bulls,Clippers, Lakers(start of season at full health), Hornets, Cavs, and the Nets( against 2 mvp players). These games were all without his number 2 partner Klay in the line up and no Rim Protector. They have showed up and out. Don’t do that my dood. The warriors are a THREAT and they not all fully healthy. 🛑 it.
@@tigera6 he had 10 games last year of 32 percent 3 point shooting on high attempts. Its not as bad as other players who go 1/9 or something lol but obviously hes still steph
This is 1996 Chicago Bulls vibes but these 2022 Warriors are 2015 Remix. This is 1996 Michael Jordan and current Steph Curry appearing in The Batman trailer and saying, "I'm vengeance."
OK real quick question did Jordan not have to go get Dennis Rodman even when he had Scotty Pippin just to get the rebounds...? Skip has so many double standards
The first year with KD he fit in perfectly, the second year he was actually one of their main issues that year with the rockets because he was jealous of curry and Kerr. He wanted to prove he was the main reason they won and he got to briefly run the show without Steph in the playoffs that year. Then they met the rockets and the rockets realized this and let KD attack one on one because he was messing up their flow. The warriors took control when Steph and Klay said enough of that KD we gotta play our game. In the finals both years even the Cavs said let KD get his we gotta stop or slow down Curry.
Skip writing fiction/fantasy in his own head in regards to KD joining the Warriors! 🤦♂️and BTW, Curry’s knee and Draymonds game 6 suspension turned the series for Cleveland…. Game 7 Cleveland was clutch…. But the Warriors didn’t need saving….. they made a super team, why cause they could… Lebron and the HEAT??? Skip 🤡take!
lol in 2016 they destroyed the cavaliers in the regular season. The only reason they lost in the finals was because 4 of the 5 starters were hurt. If they were healthy they would have won in 5. Stop saying they wouldn't have beat the cavaliers that warriors team was so much better than the cavs. They would have beat them the following years if they were healthy without KD. Steph owned lebum when they were healthy.
The type of shots Curry takes & makes back 5-6 years ago would get you put on the bench . That’s just how great he is & I hope we appreciate this moment 💯
Stephen Curry stats in 2015-16: 34.2 mins, 30.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 6.7 asts (3.3 TO's), 2.1 stls, 50.4% FG, 45.4% 3pt (5.1 3PM a game), 90.8% FT. Stephen Curry stats in 2021-22: 33.7 mins, 29.5 pts, 6.1 rebs, 6.5 asts (3.2 TO's), 1.7 stls, 46.3% FG, 41.9% 3pt (5.7 3PM a game), 95.8% FT. This team also had an All-NBA Draymond Green averaging 14p, 10r, and 7a on almost 50/39/70 and an All-NBA Klay Thompson (not coming off the 2 most serious injuries you could suffer in sports) averaging 22 a game on 43% 3pt. The supporting cast also had Barnes, Iggy, Speights, Bogut, Livingston, Barbosa, Ezeli. More playoff tested. There's a reason they won 73 games and started the season 24-0. The 2021-22 Warriors aren't on that level. Can we at least get halfway into the season before making such outrageous statements?
Pressure? Did skip really say KD had insane amount of pressure with Curry, klay, draymond by his side? Yeah they had huge expectations, but dont act like those expectations werent realisic
Shannon really owns Skip pretty often in this debate lol sometimes Shannon is off but Skip loves taking the low road. Lol this show is great for just that.
This team has the potential to be better than those teams because I think their bench has more shooting and its deeper and younger than the 2015-16 bench. But because Klay is gonna miss a good portion of the season, I think next year they will be even better. but we have to remember in 2015-2016 they had multiple 10+ win streaks where they were not just beating teams but they were obliterating teams by 20+ points a night with a top three defense. they took the league by storm in 2015
Listen to State of the Union: sprtspod.fox/Lalas
And still no Jon Gruden talk
Please put the highlights on the screen when they are talking about them. I want to see what they are looking at
before he said a single word, we all knew what was coming at 8:08 LMAO
@@Achilles-sf1uz I will let you know
LBJ has lost 6 and have played with many great players stop acting like he has never needed help
Steph could drop 70 pts and Skip would still bring up the warriors losing to the cavs in 2016 as if KD didn't choke a 3-1 lead to the warriors smh
They also forget that Andre iguodala and Andrew bogut both got injured and game five and Draymond Green was suspended in game 4 and it still took them two more games to beat curry and the warriors
Half a decade later and Skip still reaching.
Westbrick sold the Warriors that series
Skip will blame Westbrick for that not KD.
If steph is what they say that should never happen
Skip really said KD and Kyrie can beat Lebron,Curry, and klay in the finals😂😂
With a straight faceqq
Curry and Klay are the best shooters to ever play in my opinion and you add bron to that. Need I say more u wouldn’t be able to guard Lebron that would be a bron u have never seen before.
With james harden kyrie and kd team they could have a chance
You guys this guy is just paid to say the opposite of what anyone says
Lol he gets payed to say that I don’t take any of these ppl nba opinions serious Shannon admitted he didn’t watch basketball in his nfl career sooo…yet Shannon opinion on bball is supposed to be facts lol they all jus push narratives for clickbait
I've never understood the narrative that the Warriors had to get KD because they "knew they couldn't beat the Cavs" when they were up 3-1 and ended up losing by 1 possession in game 7, like where do people get this from?? An MVP, top 3 player in the league becomes available, who WOULDN'T go after him??
The media is stupid
It’s the same people who discredit Kd saying warriors didn’t need him to win a ship. They use whatever narrative no matter contradicting or not to fit their bill
fr. and it’s not just a Skip and Shannon narrative it’s an entire media narrative. It’s silly af
Not to mention the injuries GS had. Always a narrative against steph 🤦
@@SoWhat- And the Draymond suspension
What you see Steph doing now is post Shaq Kobe 2.0, remember when everyone said Kobe was a scrub and only won bc of Shaq? and then Kobe made his life's mission to prove them wrong. The same thing is happening with Steph
Facts
Couldn’t agree more and still dont know how ppl still doubt both kobe and steph
I actually really like that analogy, but not quite the way you put it. In retrospect, I think most people are going to eventually understand that Curry was the Shaq of that duo, the player who was clearly the most impactful on the team, and Durant was the Kobe of that duo, the player who wasn’t quite as valuable as the other player, but was exactly what the team needed to put them in all-time great category.
except Curry won 2 MVPs and a ring pre KD....
I remember playing basketball in the hood, 2007, and someone said, kobe won because of
Shaq
Shaq
Shaq
Hating hard. I'm glad sports narratives can change.
LeBron on Golden State would have won every game they played together. Skip lost his mind thinking KD on Cleveland would have a chance.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No fr ur talking about 2 greatest shooters of all time an Lebron James high iq and great passer 🤣🤣🤣🤣 it would be cheating.
@Lucas Walker bron would be racking up assists with klay and steph 😂
You sound goofy know damn well Lebron is a lob threat and he knows how to move off ball and he’s an excellent passer, stop the hate
@Lucas Walker There's no way you believe that.....def trolling
Skip disqualifying Steph as an all time great for recruiting the best free agent that summer is ridiculous. If that’s the case, KD shouldn’t be an all time great cus he joined the best team in the league for a better chance at a chip rather than get beat again running it back with OKC
Eskeeepp common sense KD wants out... Warriors got the mula to sign him...Steeep doesn't own Warriors brother.....it's all business...KD took advantage...he got 2 rings bro...
Kd also joined the team he lost too after having a 3-1 lead
I promise of it was the Sonics he would've stayed. OKC is not a team i can see people willing to stick around and make into a franchise.
Warriors were the second best team in the league they just lost to the Cavs in the finals
@@Barak144 honestly i though they were miles better than the cavs, kyrie and bron just were have the game of their lives as well as the rest of that 2016 roster
Skip really said KD and Kyrie would beat LBJ Steph and Klay… I’m actually sick to my stomach over that notion 😂
Bruh I was like “WHAT!?” when that part came
Thank you
LBJ, curry, and klay would literally be unstoppable
@Lucas Walker not really. Drayton would just fully focus on being a defensive threat instead of worrying about playmaking because no matter how good of a playmaker Dray is LBJ is just much better decision maker. And LeBron wouldn't need to be a shooter, once again he is a facilitator with an unbelievable iq.
@Lucas Walker lmao wtf no. That’s literally an UNGUARDABLE team. Lebron has the biggest gravity inside and Steph/Klay have the biggest gravity outside. You literally CAN NOT HELP off your man when one of them makes a move because it opens up either the paint or the perimeter. That’s in addition to Lebron’s ability to pass at an all time great level. Just imagine if, instead of Kevin Love and Jr smith, he had Steph Curry and Klay Thompson💀
Steph is playing the best he’s ever played, and skip is STILL talking about 2016
This is the guy who still brings up 2011 finals about Lebron. (Mavs fan BTW)
I’ve only seen him change his position on a player twice and it was involving the same player, Kawhi Leonard. Loved him on the Spurs hated him in Toronto loved him again on the Clippers. As far as Lebron, Curry, Jordan, Brady, etc. Skips got his mind made up and nothings changing it. Pretty dumb if you ask me because you should always reevaluate when you get new information.
@@xxxxxACExxxxxx to be fair most analysts do say that that was the biggest black mark on Lebrons resume
To be fair you can't pretend like it didn't happen
@@kelvinsanyaolu4899 it’s about bringing it up every time to minimize the player accomplishment
Skip saying a team with LBJ, Stephen Curry , Klay Thompson , Draymond Green losing to KD makes me believe he’s trolling us
That team would be a guaranteed dynasty. 4 rings in 5 years
@@smagaye9786 can you imagine LBJ playing off ball with that team! I can’t picture any team beating them in a best of 7…
@@smagaye9786 that’s disrespectful, they would’ve won 5 straight lol
He was not confident when he said that. Lol
@@smagaye9786 5 rings in 5 years bro... no cap.
The Warriors are doing this without Klay and Wiseman
Wiseman isn’t good
@OhNah he gives them length and athleticism in the post. since he actually has decent offensive post skills he makes it even harder for defenses to try and focus on the perimeter because they can start feeding him inside and he has enough offensive awareness to start scoring inside where a lot of guys these days are just out there to clog up the middle...
Doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll be better once they get back. Sometimes more players can hurt a team’s chemistry. Look what happened to the Celtics when Kyrie and Hayward came back
@@sachemofboston3649 kyrie and Hayward are ball dominant players…klay won’t hurt chemistry and you don’t need much from wiseman…I doubt they’d be anything less than better with them back.
@@stucklikechuck9556 I agree with this. Highly agree
Skip will never bring up 3-1 comeback of OKC vs GSW Conference finals when Steph turned it around drilled KD thru the wall.
He knows he contradicts himself by a mile
Because it's only 1 series you guys overrate that series so much and Klay was the reason the Warriors won game 6 without him the Warriors get eliminated
@@semionjohnson1351 No if Kd and Russ didn't play like scrubs they could've won they both chocked and Steph and Klay didn't
@@semionjohnson1351 Okay and the 2016 Finals was only 1 series but Skip always brings that up
@@bRenegadez skip is delusional that’s why
I can't believe how Skip can do anything to make KD look good.
Last game when KD went 0-8 in 3rd and didn't play in 4th, he was not held accountable. If it was LBJ or Steph who went 0-8 in any game Skip would be spilling his guts out
Forcing a narrative all the media does it
As great as Shannon is, Skip Bayless is the epitome of everything that is wrong with sports media. KD & Kyrie over Lebron, Steph, Klay and Draymond?
He needs help
He needs milk
He does it on purpose
you gotta admit shannon is the same. just watch the nfl section of this podcast.
Y’all still don’t know he’s trolling?
Skip saying curry went and begged durant to save them, save them from narrowly losing in game 7 of the NBA finals? While steph was on a bum knee ,Nah steph recruited Durant cause who wouldn't he was the best player in free agency and they needed an upgrade on Harrison Barnes, Durant should've went somewhere else cause the decision was up to him and he joined the team that beat him.
This whole begging Durant is a fanfiction made by media nerds to enhance Lebrons legacy. You telling me an organization with Jerry West the goat exec had their players beg another star to join them? Lmao Draymond in tears these idiots are like 15 yo teen girls on Tumblr. If you believe that nonsense then you should definitely eat more vegetables
Green recruited KD not Curry, that narratives is bs made up by media, KD asked for Curry's blessing which is the only reason Curry even came to that hotel lol, Curry was on tour for Under Armour when the front office called him up and he came back to help the team
Curry recruited Iggy
Bruh Bron was about to takeover again had they not got KD
Steph was on a bum knee but averaged 30 the series prior. Right. Yet he was still sprinting around the court and doing step backs on the same leg y’all claim was messed up. Why couldn’t he at least average 30 against the cavs? If kd never came cavs would have possibly 3 peated. And if kyrie never got injured they wouldn’t even have 1. They owe everything to KD 😂😂
Y’all really think Steph beg or even ask that man to come, Draymond story MAYBE true but the media got y’all fooled saying GS ran to get KD to beat LeBron or this or that - 😒🙄
In the span of a week steph has 4 games where he has made 9 threes 🔥🔥
Literally unheard of. If warriors manage to win it all with steph playing like himself, he takes over as best PG ever( he’s second right now) and he’d be top 4 all time IMO. Possibly 3
Skip seems to forget KD never won a ring without steph
Exactly
Because he is off emotions and biased takes. Everytime contradicts himself. It gets boring watching him. Shannon is the only reason I watch the show.
Y’all seem to forget that Curry only won because Kyrie and KLove was injured in the finals. What happened when they played a healthy Cavs?
@@BallKnower So... did KD win without steph or nah?
@@RAMONE1907 He would’ve if Wade and Bosh were hurt in 2012 🤷♂️
Steph didn’t need KD to “save” them, his team was 73-9 and they beat KD’s team to get to the finals. If anything KD joined a team that showed him up in the conference finals.
He literally flew a bunch of people to recruit him, what does that say? We need you we should combine forces. Nobody that is competitive in a sport where individuality is so huge thinks that way but to actually go back and prove yourself. Steph showed he isn’t that competitive when he sat a whole year when Klay got injured due to his wrist lol LaMelo got the same injury and barely missed games. He probably played the following year because he had to. It’s a true story it’s factual and it’s out there that they went on a group to try and recruit KD so they could win certainly
They weren’t beating the cavs without KD
@@coreyyo991 sure they could, if both teams were healthy they would have won. If Harrison Barnes doesn't shoot 18% from 3 they win.
I love watching the Warriors because of the ball movement reminds me of the 2010s Spurs
As a former coach I LOVE watching the way the play offense and defense
Such an intelligent org
@@Brasi7 question, as a former coach do you think you could’ve done a better job than any NBA coaches throughout time? Or do you think it’s one of those situations akin to Brian Scalabrine telling college kids that he’s closer to LeBron than the kids were to himself?
Can we also appreciate the general defense of steph, which is ranked 2nd overall players this season?
Stephs got his rings and his MVPs now hes just vibing and happens to be playing the best basketball in his career
Does anyone remember Steph Sprained his m.c.l in game 4 vs the rockets after missing 2 games with a sprained ankle in that same series? He was basically carried off the court with the sports world holding its breath. Initially they thought he was gone for the playoffs but it ended up being a sprain which was supposed to sideline him for 4 weeks. Of course with it being the playoffs he came back in 15 days. He clearly wasn't himself he could turn it on sometimes, but if anybody remembers Tristan Thompson was guarding Steph on the perimeter playing press defense and Steph couldn't shake him loose 😂😂😂. Thats damn near impossible for Tristan with a healthy Steph! Thats the only reason the thunder was able to get a 3-1 lead. He's gonna prove he's been the best in the league since 2016
Skip talks so much about Steph but turns into a fan watching his highlights lol I love it hahahaha
The 2021 Warriors are more experienced than the 2015-16 Warriors
This is just a BOLD FACED LIE lmao...
Poole, Wiseman, JTA, Kuminga, Moody, Lee, and Payton II have never made the playoffs. Half their roster. Wiggins has only made it once (5 total games). Bjelica has only made the playoffs twice (7 total games). Porter Jr. has made the playoffs 4/9 years and has never made is past the 2nd Round. The only players with playoff experience is Curry, Klay, Green, Iguodala, and Looney. The only players who have been here for a while.
@@Spider-ManHQ he never said playoff experience he just said experience
@@KehindeRa Well that season experience won't get them far in the playoffs
@@KehindeRa 1. Playoff experience matters most when ur goal is trying to win a championship.
2. The 2021-22 Warriors has 87 years of total experience. The 2015-16 Warriors had 96 years of total experience. So again, what is said just isn't true. Any way you slice it...
@@Spider-ManHQ doesn't matter your argument was invalid because of erroneous premises doesn't matter if it had a true conclusion. Logic 101
“You out yo mind.” Lmao I couldn’t have said it better myself
Skip deserves an Oscar! To go on with the takes he has and say them so seriously and without breaking out in laughter 👏👏
"40 points with 1 free throw" 🤯
"Kevin Durant please save me"
Never came from Steph. Strawman Skip is pushing this false narrative too far.
Durant was a FREE AGENT. When arguably the best player in the league becomes a free agent and declares he is leaving his current team, everyone recruits him.
Steph and the entire organization figured they'd be a better team if they had Kevin Durant. Exactly the same thoughts went through the mind of every player and every executive.
Not at least putting a pitch in would have been irresponsible. They landed the best free agent and won multiple titles and will go down as perhaps the greatest team of all time.
no Shannon, when Harden gets 40 he's going to the line 24-25 times. half of them due to the 'phantom neck snap/flailing arms' combo move
I laughed out loud when skip said “Westbrick” 🤣😭 - 11:45
There was literally a video clip the other day from this show where Skip said Russell Westbrook...sorry...Westbrick....and he said it with a straight face like he was genuinely apologizing for calling him Westbrook instead of Westbrick 🤣🤣
you must be new to basketball
Shannon has the most accurate take he's ever made: Skip is out of his mind. :)
This team might be more aesthetically pleasing to watch like the pre-KD warriors but ain't no way they are better...With KD, they were a less fun team to watch but they were unbeatable.
Seriously Skip, you have said multiple times that Lebron is the best passer in basketball and now you say he couldn't have won a championship with two of the best shooters of all time. Shannon's take is non bias and totally accurate with basketball IQ substance.💯
i feel like a kd vs steph debate is reasonable now, but if steph wins mvp and especially if he wins the championship, idk if there should be a debate anymore
How? Did you forget that game when Curry hit that dagger 3 from deep on Thunder? How about Thunder being up 3-1 and the Warriors sealed that deal. They just played recently and once again Curry showed out on Nets. I mean KD only has him beat with finals mvp.
Curry has 3 titles, 2 MVP's, 2 scoring titles, 1 stealing title
KD has 2 titles, 2 fmvps, 1 MVP, 1 scoring title
Only reason this is even a discussion is cause KD has more all star and all NBA titles on his name
@@godduchiha9154 i agree im taking steph all time too, im just saying that this season might truly end the debate. hoping for a nets warriors finals
@@_Solum That would be interesting to see
@@_Solum or if the nets and warriors happens. Because I'm not sure it will. Without Kryie they can't make it out the east. Now the warriors can only get better
I wish we could see the plays they are looking at on their screen
Steph is going to have a game where he has close to 20 threes this year, bet
Steph the best player in the league
And I think KD should be thankful they did choke at 3 to 1 lead cuz if they didn't he wouldn't have no championships right now or finals MVPs because he would have never got there again 🤦🤔🤷
What you smoking can I have some?
Explain to me where I'm wrong
@@adriandantedanosos4146 you can't afford what I'm smoking
@@adriandantedanosos4146 and what has KD done other than a scoring title and what one MVP before he got to curry and what has he done after cuz I could tell you what Curry done before Kevin Durant he had two MVPs one unanimous the best record in NBA history and a championship with two finals appearances and after they broke up he's got a score and title and right now he's leading the league and scoring ain't got the best record so once again Kd should thank the warriors 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@christopherdowns4741 how many fmvps has Curry won?
Stephen playing is so amazing, he really loves what he does. And I love the way he treats his teammates. For sure he is the best. Playing for the team, not to himself.
The scary part is we won't know how good they really are until Klay gets back 😳
Wait a minute, Skip really replied "yes" to Shannon asking if he thought LeBron w/ Steph, Klay, & Draymond would've lost to KD and Kyrie? Man GTFOH with that Skip!
Kyrie that dude.
@@csampion9025
He is? What has he done without Lebron?
The Warriors are trying to reclaim their crown 👑.
Skip must be the most faithful person I « know », he finds one argument and use it for his entire career.
Skip, how could Durant and Kyrie beat LBJ, Steph and Klay in the finals when Durant, Kyrie (and Harden) couldn’t even get past Giannis and the Bucks last season
Man stop it you know damn well this take is a lie Giannis didn't play all three of them together and Kyrie and Harden both missed several games in that series because of injuries
Man love how Shannon gives credit to each player as they deserve and talks about the whole picture not only about what he sees as a fan. My favourite by far
15:22 might’ve been the worst take skip ever mentioned on tv
2nd behind Menziel will be bigger than bron in cle
@@jbtreshawn oh yeah I forgot about that 😂😂
Naw this definitely too the cake😂😂
Nah him saying a 52 year old Mj could beat a 29 year old LeBron in a 1v1 is worse.
Kobe Bryant had 4 games in his ENTIRE CAREER when he hit 9 threes in a game. Steph Curry accomplished that during the last week and a half.
Critics: U mad?
1996 MJ: I took it personal. 😡
Critics: U mad?
2022 Steph: I took it personal. 😡
“U out yo mind “ 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 Shannon
How is this even a question? the 2016 Warriors went 73-9 and were in the Finals lol
This warriors team is special💯💙💛
Yes they have much better squad than that team
Come on now “much” better….STOP!
@@sb7816 Wiggins and Wiseman >> Barnes and Bogut
@@TheJoker-cz1qq The old GSW had a very stacked bench. Bench is really important winning a ring.
@@abouttime2569
That same bench also was averaging 50 points a game if I remember.
@@TheJoker-cz1qq nah
I'm 41 and I've never seen a shooter better than Curry right now!! Curry and Thompson have been the best shooting guards in the NBA for years now. They could win another title within a year or 2
I'll buy a 2022 championship hat of the Warriors too. That one, I'll keep. Memories of listening to Stephen A. back in Nov 4, 2021 when he was officially picking the Warriors and being right which is a rarity from him or me.
Agreed. Credit to SAS for always being high on the Warriors even when we were down bad the last 2 years.
Shout out to Shannon for keeping his composure, idk how he does it 😹
There’s really no way to compare until the second half of the season. Only thing for certain is Steph is just better. And that has a domino effect on everybody. Everybody does better because Steph is better.
"WOOOOOOW"
finally heard Shannon correct his
Subject/Predicate
agreement;
"...have, have, have, has....
I'm digging the Warriors' new City Edition jerseys. If they win me money, I'll buy one for Steph or Klay. It's similar to the Lakers' that is black and yellow. LeAdam won't get in the way like in 2016. He wants high jersey sales.
LeAdam Silver James lmaoo
2022 champions, here we come.
Steph, Klay, Draymond, Poole, Wiseman, and Kuminga were drafted by the Warriors. Only THT was drafted by the Lakers. All the Lakers and LeBron do is buy their way to win rings. Not homegrown like the 2015 Warriors.
Yo, don't leave out Looney & Moody.
Against an injured Cavs team missing Kyrie and Kevin Love what an impressive ring LMFAO they ran crying to KD cause they couldn’t beat Bron
Same difference between Barcelona and Real Madrid
@@jayh825 Let's see what happen at the end of this season when Lebron lose again with his super team. Yeah you can argue GSW got another superstar but hey then gone to 3 finals with it. Lebron & AD are in their 3rd year with Lakers and they have only been there once.
2015 warriors had time to develop...lebron doesn't have 3 or 4 years to wait until rookies develop hence he gets veterans that's why he left when they drafted Collin sexton
Skip made me chuckle with his arguments about KD. 😂
15:38 LMFAO how can you say KD and Kyrie can beat literally the two greatest shooters in NBA history with arguably the greatest player of all time ??? no one is guarding Klay and Draymond
Best part: "you're out of your mind" 😂 😂 😂
Give my Cleveland Cavaliers some respect! We had a 22-9 lead over Golden State early in the first quarter. We were able to hang with the Warriors for a large majority of the game. But because half our roster is injured, we ran out of gas at the end.
THAT"S WHAT I SAID CAVS STAND UP!
Definitely gotta get some respect.. warriors fan btw.
Y’all played good would have won if it wasn’t for curry
Holy cow I disqualify anything Skip Bayless says! He only brings up stats when they make his player look good in the other player look bad but if they make his player look bad he's not talking about them
Shannon should've made the next question: "if Curry and KD both retire after that 2015/16 season, who would be feeling better with their careers as they were in that moment?" Obviously Steph because he was already a champion at least once... so who benefited the most out of that union.
true plus dude won already a mvp, i think twice (correct me if im wrong ) which is more than kd
Y’all need to start showing the clips that they talk about like they do on first take, I wanna see the plays they’re talking about
Nah until they get somebody who replaces what bogut brought to the table, the older teams are better
Disagree.. boguts impact was overrated. I’d argue javale McGee was an overall better fit for the warriors. They do need a big who’s hella athletic. Hopefully wiseman fits that role when he comes back.
Wiseman… can give much better on both sides outside of screens this year
@@benjaminbremer4261 so a big man who can pass and you can run alot of plays from, and play great D was overated? You must wasnt watchin
@@alonewolfsoulgdl1733 for a #1 overall pick yeah night was overrated. And he wasn’t a good passer.. Man only averaged 2.7 and 2.3 assists.. which was 2014 and 2015. Javale was a more athletic defender.
@@benjaminbremer4261 yea you wasnt watchin then
"you out your mind" ☠️☠️☠️☠️ I'm weak!
LeBron, Curry and Klay would go 82-0. KD can be as clutch as he will, when the games are all decided in the first two quarters.
Skip just proved he do not like LeBron in this segment. He said KD going to the Cavs and Bron going to the Warriors with the exact same lineups, that KD and Kyrie would beat Bron, Klay, Steph and Draymond 🤣🤣…I cannot take Skip serious at all
Warriors (1) vs. Lakers (8) in the 1st round.
Steph needs to prove to the world he doesn't need KD to beat a healthy LeBron team. Revenge for the sham in 2016.
That would be tough for Curry cause cause doesn't score well at staples lol
@@isaacdebeila8085 they cant even beat curry struggling on opening night just admit your team is bad...🤣🤣🤣
LeBron has never beat a healthy Curry tho lol
@@stephcurrytheg.o.a.t and Curry has never beaten Lebron in a somewhat equal matchup, the only time it was fair (2016), Lebron won
@@cartercecy8254 wasn't even fair then. It was fair in 2017 tho
They still talking about those battles 4 years ago. Great time being a Cavs fan
Skip you out yo mind! I was with you all the way up until you said that KD on the Cavs would've beaten Lebron on the Warriors! You serious? Nah, you just wanted to get under Shannon's skin, lol.
This man Skip did not just say KD & Kyrie Cavs beats Curry, Klay, Bron Warriors.
Skip is acting like Steph was Kd sidekick.. like he was the Khris to giannis or pippin to Jordan… no Kd and Steph duo was more like Shaq and Kobe or Kareem and magic where both were near equal in talent and production
"You out yo mind" 🤣🤣🤣💀damn Sharpe tell Skip he crazy
lets slow down people, warriors have had a pretty easy schedule so far
I'm sick of that we destroyed brooklyn and chicago two good teams
The teams they have been beating have been balling or been projected to be serious playoff contenders. Bulls,Clippers, Lakers(start of season at full health), Hornets, Cavs, and the Nets( against 2 mvp players). These games were all without his number 2 partner Klay in the line up and no Rim Protector. They have showed up and out. Don’t do that my dood. The warriors are a THREAT and they not all fully healthy. 🛑 it.
So now the Nets, Bulls, Hornets, Lakers and Clippers are easy, huh?
@@renemonroy214 ikr ? They all of a sudden don’t exist bruh
Might be the dumbest comment I have heard this season.
Skip is blaming Westbrick for KD missing shots now as if Russ was defending KD too lol
Mental
Can we talk about this after the season is done why now
Because steph putting up stats like no other. Once steph has a bad streak itll throw their offense off and theyll start losing a lot
@@sharifnasser7635 we have to wait until the playoffs then we can talk about this
@@sharifnasser7635 have you seen Steph got a bad streak of multiple games since the beginning of LAST season?
@@tigera6 he had 10 games last year of 32 percent 3 point shooting on high attempts. Its not as bad as other players who go 1/9 or something lol but obviously hes still steph
This is 1996 Chicago Bulls vibes but these 2022 Warriors are 2015 Remix. This is 1996 Michael Jordan and current Steph Curry appearing in The Batman trailer and saying, "I'm vengeance."
OK real quick question did Jordan not have to go get Dennis Rodman even when he had Scotty Pippin just to get the rebounds...? Skip has so many double standards
The first year with KD he fit in perfectly, the second year he was actually one of their main issues that year with the rockets because he was jealous of curry and Kerr. He wanted to prove he was the main reason they won and he got to briefly run the show without Steph in the playoffs that year. Then they met the rockets and the rockets realized this and let KD attack one on one because he was messing up their flow. The warriors took control when Steph and Klay said enough of that KD we gotta play our game. In the finals both years even the Cavs said let KD get his we gotta stop or slow down Curry.
Skip writing fiction/fantasy in his own head in regards to KD joining the Warriors! 🤦♂️and BTW, Curry’s knee and Draymonds game 6 suspension turned the series for Cleveland…. Game 7 Cleveland was clutch…. But the Warriors didn’t need saving….. they made a super team, why cause they could… Lebron and the HEAT??? Skip 🤡take!
Why don’t they show us the replays?
lol in 2016 they destroyed the cavaliers in the regular season. The only reason they lost in the finals was because 4 of the 5 starters were hurt. If they were healthy they would have won in 5. Stop saying they wouldn't have beat the cavaliers that warriors team was so much better than the cavs. They would have beat them the following years if they were healthy without KD. Steph owned lebum when they were healthy.
of all the outrageous things I've heard skip say this takes the cake..
This is a media take, no possible way he actually believes that
Skip blame everything on Westbrook like they didn’t have a 3-1 lead on the warriors with Russ on the team
The type of shots Curry takes & makes back 5-6 years ago would get you put on the bench . That’s just how great he is & I hope we appreciate this moment 💯
"Skinny little shoulders, slim little shoulders, narrow shoulders" 😂😂😂😂😂 skip you ain't gotta do him like that!
I respect Unc a lot. I don’t know if anyone can argue with Skip with that amount of calmness.
Stephen Curry stats in 2015-16:
34.2 mins, 30.1 pts, 5.4 rebs, 6.7 asts (3.3 TO's), 2.1 stls, 50.4% FG, 45.4% 3pt (5.1 3PM a game), 90.8% FT.
Stephen Curry stats in 2021-22:
33.7 mins, 29.5 pts, 6.1 rebs, 6.5 asts (3.2 TO's), 1.7 stls, 46.3% FG, 41.9% 3pt (5.7 3PM a game), 95.8% FT.
This team also had an All-NBA Draymond Green averaging 14p, 10r, and 7a on almost 50/39/70 and an All-NBA Klay Thompson (not coming off the 2 most serious injuries you could suffer in sports) averaging 22 a game on 43% 3pt. The supporting cast also had Barnes, Iggy, Speights, Bogut, Livingston, Barbosa, Ezeli. More playoff tested. There's a reason they won 73 games and started the season 24-0. The 2021-22 Warriors aren't on that level. Can we at least get halfway into the season before making such outrageous statements?
Good points…. But you failed to consider their trump card… OTTO PORTER
The Olympic team argument is freaking funny man ahaha
Pressure? Did skip really say KD had insane amount of pressure with
Curry, klay, draymond by his side? Yeah they had huge expectations, but dont act like those expectations werent realisic
Shannon really owns Skip pretty often in this debate lol sometimes Shannon is off but Skip loves taking the low road. Lol this show is great for just that.
The 4 straight years when GSW played Cleveland in Finals must have been hard for Skip 😭
Wait a damn minute. Did Skip really just say that KD and Kyrie would beat Steph, Lebron and Klay? 😑
Damn Tika, how are you doing?? 😍😘
Did skip just say if KD and Lebron switched places in 2016, KD and Kyrie would beat Lebron, Steph and Klay?! Does he really believe that?! 😮😮😮
Skip said the whole world was waiting on KD to crumble😑 nahhhh the whole world knew it was over as soon as he signed to the warriors
This team has the potential to be better than those teams because I think their bench has more shooting and its deeper and younger than the 2015-16 bench. But because Klay is gonna miss a good portion of the season, I think next year they will be even better. but we have to remember in 2015-2016 they had multiple 10+ win streaks where they were not just beating teams but they were obliterating teams by 20+ points a night with a top three defense. they took the league by storm in 2015