Pretty bummed that there are only 3 light greatswords…. You’d think there would be more considering it’s a new weapon class. Been having so much fun with Milady
Yeah and everything else besides milady is kinda meh. And sadly the powerstanced moveset just sucks. Plus rellanas twin blades are bad everywhere except pvp and in pvp it's annoying and still not very good. The other light greatsword is a holy weapon so it's something you have to build around
I just tried it, you can feint on the first heavy attack on 1H and both heavy attacks on 2H. Also doing the light attack after it does a nice poke attack. Seems like a pretty crazy mixup if you use it well
3:41 ungone_:”to be fair they stole animations from mods” …What? The majority of mods use animations from other Fromsoft games, this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Several modders in several places complained fromsoft stole their animation/animation idea. Didnt really believe any of it, until got to see the weapons and spells.Usually you only see stupidly broken anime stuff in soulsgame mods where the maker has 0 aftertought. Then we magically get all the broken, instant startup having attack animations, legit nuclear bomb spells. Sorry, but just cause you enjoyed elden ring, doesnt mean if someone states a good critic against it you have start witchhunt, grow up sorry
@@ungone7133 you mean fromsoft “stole” animations and spells made using assets that they made first in their game that they own? maybe the modders should send a cease and desist - oh wait send comparison links if you will. if it’s egregiously obvious i might take your side
@@hennyboi1523 just booted up fextra life video which shows all the dlc spells and reforged mod all spells video, already finding similarities to the extreme. Tho fromsoft owns all the right of their product, they have right to do so. The problem isn't that. The problem starts when they copy a mod what has 0 aftertought hows that gonna handle the balance, and those things reach the maingame.
@@thecandyman7807dude for real, I don’t wanna see people complaining on day one about no counters, we haven’t even begun to figure all this new stuff out yet
tried out Great Katanas for the first time, saw that the moveset is very familiar. And i was hoping that the ashes of war for the weapon class would be similar to Iai Spirit Slash or Sacred Sheathe lmao
Yeah lmao, even the feint on great katana is basically fade slash if from can make backstep attack is foresight slash and unsheath aow work like special sheath then im all for it
Hi Jeenine, great vid as always. I was wondering if you could put a screenshot of your builds stats at the end of your videos, that would help me with my builds at least, thanks for the content!
I think blind spot is pretty broken, it punishes almost any aggression with it's on reaction i-frames, I found storm stomp as a counter but a good player might not fall for it.
Yeah, The poise damage on it is insane too. L2 on reaction to anything the opponent does and you'll likely come out on top. I can't imagine how busted it is in duels.
Not sure if anyone’s mentioned this before, but if you want a good ash to go with the great kat flame strike is a prime choice since if someone tries to strafe your pokes/vertical attacks you can deny it. Overhead stance seems like it suffers from the tracking in a lot of cases and also sword dance could overshoot a bit Honestly love the way the moveset was constructed, from all the dlc stuff I’ve seen it looks like one of the most dynamic and satisfying weapons
Been loving the beast claws, I'm sure they'll be sick in 1v1s but I've had to drop them in the face of bosses with infinite hyperarmour, using them against Rellana was impossible. Edit: also the heavy attack on the beast claws feels so odd, you can't turn during the wind-up even when charge attacking, really limits the flexibility.
This thing is what CGS wishes to be, that moveset is completely nuts in terms of versatility. P.D: (Maybe spoilers ahead?) There's a madnes perfume in the dlc. A.Goddam.Madness.Perfume, it's over (theres also a sleep fist in the dlc but i dont know if its good or not)
I’ve been ROLLING everything in the DLC with the great katana. It’s such a great weapon. I’m running it with a high arcane build, with a 132 bleed build-up. I’ve always run katanas in this game but the crits with this thing are unreal.
It was love at first sight for me, a duelist's weapon through and through. Reminds me of the DS2 days using the Alonne Greatsword, very tricky but rewarding when used skillfully.
The advantage of Moonveil was the speed and damage. This new weapon is slow in comparison, gets you stuck on the animation, and the proyectiles are short range. Moonveil is still better objectively.
I've been using rakshasas in pvp because its so funny to catch a gank squad in a corrider with lawnmower attack but its a kind of slow option that was meant to be my get off me tool and you take more damage while using it so i may just use regular great katana with flaming strike
I think it doesn’t have any HA, *but* the follow-up R1 when 2Handing is actually insane and basically protects you from making slightly risky plays. If you over or undershoot your running attack for example, you can follow-up R1 for a quick poke that totally protects you on the ground since it’s a 360 radius Very cool weapon so far
Its kinda funny to me how everything, all the fancy moves and projectiles and so on in From Soft's combat especially with the cool stuff in this game....but when you're fighting real people rather than all of that it always actually comes down to a weapon with good reach, solid swipes, and pokes since so much comes down to roll-catching in pvp.
it can be comboed. Requires skills like Colossals, has the mixture of a curved greatsdword while keeping the drip of a katana. PPl who spam this just forget they are 3 weapons in one
Oi, they casually quietly added additional move on some of new weapon classes: if you press dodge button during charging attack you do a retreating attack, it's not that big on great katana but on perfumes you practically have same distance as a roll...
The feint on the Beast claws is pretty fun, it’s a crouching backflip that covers insane distance. I reversed stepped it into a roll attack and hit a host who was like thirty feet away and had no idea what happened. Kinda feels like using Gael’s again.
Id say RL139 is still a reasonable level range since you’ll get a majority of the competitive player base with that (125-150), although there’s a lot of PvEr’s doing NG+ and beyond at 150-200 so trying out 168 is a viable option, although I haven’t tried it I know others say it’s a good level bracket for natural invasions.
Dryleaf need a buff btw but I'd be curious to see what you think about them. They lack a lot of forward momentum and have very questionable hitboxes (despite appearing to have a small AOE on heavies).
Bro elden ring players (half at least) in pvp are like 80% ashes of war, it is like they dont know how to win without spamming them when actually knowing about the weapons moveset is what will make you win (like jeenine)
no, ive not done a single legacy dungeon yet, im exploring, taking my time enjoying the new stuff and also invading in between when I find a new weapon i can use
@@Jeenine Oh I guess that makes sense but that's good to hear I'm just surprised people would want to pvp already especially you can go to places you haven't been too.
Jee, what is your level / remnant level for invasions, I personally hesitate to upgrade and level up for dlc because I want to invade, what are your thoughts?
They definitely need to nerf the amount of spam these host have been producing with these spells and weapons, since I can’t see the majority of invaders survive any of that.🐱
Its the same way in arena duels too its not fair trying to skillfully kill some dude thats throwing basically tactical nukes at me that cost nearly nothing thats before even talking about dlc spells or consumables idk they decided to add MORE cancer
When DS 1 remastered came out I was on a work trip for 3 weeks. By the time I came back, the game was already dead. Somehow I don't think that will happen here.
I think thats the point, thats how a knight/heavy armoredsamurai fights is using the weight of their armor, their poise, so they can get away with more powerful slashes and pokes and utterally demolish their lesser-armoured foes. Plus they tend to be highly skilled
I still say colossals are the highest skill ceiling, sure they do a shit ton more damage but good luck hitting anything against someone who knows how to roll especially light rollers. Unless you use cringe BHS and know how to roll catch I guess. The mixups with the sword are crazy af tho.
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9:16 bro busted
😂😂😂 COOMnine, bro elevated his gaming experience thats for sure 🎉
The ending 💀
Homie was just casually enjoying his weapon.
Pretty bummed that there are only 3 light greatswords….
You’d think there would be more considering it’s a new weapon class. Been having so much fun with Milady
Yeah and everything else besides milady is kinda meh. And sadly the powerstanced moveset just sucks. Plus rellanas twin blades are bad everywhere except pvp and in pvp it's annoying and still not very good. The other light greatsword is a holy weapon so it's something you have to build around
The great katanas have an extra attack if you press roll during a heavy attack charge just like CS and TS
I just tried it, you can feint on the first heavy attack on 1H and both heavy attacks on 2H. Also doing the light attack after it does a nice poke attack. Seems like a pretty crazy mixup if you use it well
3:41 ungone_:”to be fair they stole animations from mods”
…What?
The majority of mods use animations from other Fromsoft games, this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
if there's one thing fromsoft goes hard on it's animations, guy's just making ridiculous accusations
I've never seen a youtube comment ratiod @hennyboi1523
Several modders in several places complained fromsoft stole their animation/animation idea. Didnt really believe any of it, until got to see the weapons and spells.Usually you only see stupidly broken anime stuff in soulsgame mods where the maker has 0 aftertought. Then we magically get all the broken, instant startup having attack animations, legit nuclear bomb spells. Sorry, but just cause you enjoyed elden ring, doesnt mean if someone states a good critic against it you have start witchhunt, grow up sorry
@@ungone7133 you mean fromsoft “stole” animations and spells made using assets that they made first in their game that they own? maybe the modders should send a cease and desist - oh wait
send comparison links if you will. if it’s egregiously obvious i might take your side
@@hennyboi1523 just booted up fextra life video which shows all the dlc spells and reforged mod all spells video, already finding similarities to the extreme. Tho fromsoft owns all the right of their product, they have right to do so. The problem isn't that. The problem starts when they copy a mod what has 0 aftertought hows that gonna handle the balance, and those things reach the maingame.
Dude that new weapon art on the Solitude greatsword is an automatic frame trap. It seriously cannot be dodged unless you are far away.
Interesting
Don't give them ideas
Litterly same weapon art of base game gargoyle AoW or DS storm ruler xD
@@NekomiyaTHit's the followup that frame traps after dodging the l2
Huh I seem to have no issue dodging it
Odachi is king. I love that it gets the ichumanji move from sekiro
Ichimonji triple even
Its so close to the longsword from monster hunter world been using since i picked it up its amazing
I saw someone do a comparison. It's the exact same attack string, same attack types and angles, just their own animations. A good homage I think!
@riven5544 that video popped up in my feed earlier!
It was the exact same its really nice to see!
It's like the katana and the curved great sword had a baby, and I'm all for it.
Except it has no hyper armour so it's not annoying as shit to fight. Honestly 10/10 weapon my new favourite
What I've noticed so far is that there are a lot of spammy weapons and ashes, but to counter this there are no reliable burst damage sources yet.
Golden retaliation. Jar cannon. Switching weapons and talismans. Tryharding. We still have options, don’t lose hope.
Your live and die by your build. The more tools you have, the more you can adjust to your gankers strategies.
Greyolls roar is a lot of fun.
@@thecandyman7807dude for real, I don’t wanna see people complaining on day one about no counters, we haven’t even begun to figure all this new stuff out yet
Oh you must have forgotten about flaming strike, i was catching the backhand ash of war all last night
tried out Great Katanas for the first time, saw that the moveset is very familiar. And i was hoping that the ashes of war for the weapon class would be similar to Iai Spirit Slash or Sacred Sheathe lmao
Yeah lmao, even the feint on great katana is basically fade slash
if from can make backstep attack is foresight slash and unsheath aow work like special sheath then im all for it
Hi Jeenine, great vid as always.
I was wondering if you could put a screenshot of your builds stats at the end of your videos, that would help me with my builds at least, thanks for the content!
"L2 TO WIN DLC" 😂
Dreamynine ending🙏
time to put that shit in Ai.
the standing R2s were MADE for roll-catching, I instantly fell in love with this weapon
Im an hour into dlc. I can already say with confidence its an absolute masterpiece
I think blind spot is pretty broken, it punishes almost any aggression with it's on reaction i-frames, I found storm stomp as a counter but a good player might not fall for it.
yes so far its the only broken thing ive tried, but youre right
Yeah, The poise damage on it is insane too. L2 on reaction to anything the opponent does and you'll likely come out on top. I can't imagine how busted it is in duels.
it is, but its honestly so fun to fight against
I lost to it last night from a guy spamming it lol
@@Jeeninethere is a bhs+water fowl ashe, literally destroys everything in pvp
That last sequence was tight
Not sure if anyone’s mentioned this before, but if you want a good ash to go with the great kat flame strike is a prime choice since if someone tries to strafe your pokes/vertical attacks you can deny it. Overhead stance seems like it suffers from the tracking in a lot of cases and also sword dance could overshoot a bit
Honestly love the way the moveset was constructed, from all the dlc stuff I’ve seen it looks like one of the most dynamic and satisfying weapons
The great katana also has a backstep swipe, which seems good for zoning and faking a roll.
there is also a great katana with r2 poke like zwei so even more poke mix up
We were so happy about pvp balances ,we didn’t knew DLC weapons are coming 😁
Have you found Dryleaf Arts yet? Love the idea of using it off hand and soft swapping for fun mixups
milady is my fav so far, beast claws are also realllll nice, love it
Does the tracking feel weird to you ?
Free aim seems to be more effective on lgs for mobile opponents.
Been loving the beast claws, I'm sure they'll be sick in 1v1s but I've had to drop them in the face of bosses with infinite hyperarmour, using them against Rellana was impossible.
Edit: also the heavy attack on the beast claws feels so odd, you can't turn during the wind-up even when charge attacking, really limits the flexibility.
This thing is what CGS wishes to be, that moveset is completely nuts in terms of versatility.
P.D: (Maybe spoilers ahead?)
There's a madnes perfume in the dlc. A.Goddam.Madness.Perfume, it's over (theres also a sleep fist in the dlc but i dont know if its good or not)
It's goofy that the great katana has a 4 point lower str requirement than the nagakiba
i vehemently despise sheaths so i am currently gutted bc great katanas do look super fun
there are two of them without sheaths in the game 🙏
I’ve been ROLLING everything in the DLC with the great katana. It’s such a great weapon. I’m running it with a high arcane build, with a 132 bleed build-up. I’ve always run katanas in this game but the crits with this thing are unreal.
Honestly I really love that From straight up just added a freaking Odachi to Elden Ring.
It was love at first sight for me, a duelist's weapon through and through. Reminds me of the DS2 days using the Alonne Greatsword, very tricky but rewarding when used skillfully.
Ah yes, in all fromsoft's wisdom, they added moonveil x8. They know they can do anything.
You took an amazing profile pic and turned it into doggy doo doo
Rivers of moonveil
Its sh1ttier than Moonveil tho
The advantage of Moonveil was the speed and damage.
This new weapon is slow in comparison, gets you stuck on the animation, and the proyectiles are short range.
Moonveil is still better objectively.
hahaha so true :')
Bruh.....the distance on the backhand blade is insaaaane. lol.
Easily my favourite weapon class in the DLC, found it early on in my playthrough and beat the final boss with it, it's so fun to use.
Quais foram seus encantamentos? Seus atributos? Gostaria de saber
I've been using rakshasas in pvp because its so funny to catch a gank squad in a corrider with lawnmower attack but its a kind of slow option that was meant to be my get off me tool and you take more damage while using it so i may just use regular great katana with flaming strike
09:18
Sushi chef fed him a carrot.
I think it doesn’t have any HA, *but* the follow-up R1 when 2Handing is actually insane and basically protects you from making slightly risky plays.
If you over or undershoot your running attack for example, you can follow-up R1 for a quick poke that totally protects you on the ground since it’s a 360 radius
Very cool weapon so far
G9 please bless us with Shadow of Karate gameplay 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
I've been a naughty boy and three tapping people in the arean with smithscript cirque. It's absurdly OP.
Its kinda funny to me how everything, all the fancy moves and projectiles and so on in From Soft's combat especially with the cool stuff in this game....but when you're fighting real people rather than all of that it always actually comes down to a weapon with good reach, solid swipes, and pokes since so much comes down to roll-catching in pvp.
I like the Rakshasa GK moveset, poke R2s are always nice.
it can be comboed. Requires skills like Colossals, has the mixture of a curved greatsdword while keeping the drip of a katana. PPl who spam this just forget they are 3 weapons in one
This weapon seems insane with chilling mist, cold + bleed procs with crouchpoke roll catching after using the aow
sounds interesting. can you share your build and equipment?
I can’t believe we can DUEL WIELD THESE
It's probably the most honest you can get. Especially quality enjoyers.
Agree. The great katana is the most fun weapon so far. It feels so good to use it
Reminds me of the pursuers greatsword moveset from Ds2, good tims
This weapon feels like another game
FYI offhand GK Haa less recovery than mainhand and can true combo into fast weapon R1s
Im not sure how much I like overhead stance, but Im definitely enjoying the weapon. Backward blades are my favorite so far however
Blessed blue dew talisman is going to be a mightmare
Occult great katana with twin strikes is insane
Kind of niche, but dont forget it has a r2 cancel as well. Its for sure amongst the best movesets from has ever made
Oi, they casually quietly added additional move on some of new weapon classes: if you press dodge button during charging attack you do a retreating attack, it's not that big on great katana but on perfumes you practically have same distance as a roll...
That's a feint. thrusting swords and heavy thrusting swords have it too. Also scimitars.
@@SaltyRocksPew thanks for reminding me, honestly forgot that some has feint in moveset.
The feint on the Beast claws is pretty fun, it’s a crouching backflip that covers insane distance. I reversed stepped it into a roll attack and hit a host who was like thirty feet away and had no idea what happened. Kinda feels like using Gael’s again.
Bro nuted the board at the end
Fuck lord the spam of blood flies
do you think that the average pvp level is gonna go up with the dlc? been very hesitant to level up much past 125
Id say RL139 is still a reasonable level range since you’ll get a majority of the competitive player base with that (125-150), although there’s a lot of PvEr’s doing NG+ and beyond at 150-200 so trying out 168 is a viable option, although I haven’t tried it I know others say it’s a good level bracket for natural invasions.
For invasions? Almost certainly. For duels? Probably not.
Same
Dryleaf need a buff btw but I'd be curious to see what you think about them. They lack a lot of forward momentum and have very questionable hitboxes (despite appearing to have a small AOE on heavies).
They actually have a lot of forward momentum, you just have to be really close to your enemy and precise with your aim, as they have laggy tracking.
@thecandyman7807 yeah this sounds more accurate to what I was trying to say. Thanks! Hopefully they get adjusted a tad. Otherwise I love them
They deal a ton of poise damage in pve, breaking boss stances all the time, havent tested them in pvp yet.
@@tu1122that palm WA they come with stomps everything but actual bosses and seems to have infinite hyper armour
I hate that the unique great katanas are so lame. I guess I will just use the derault one
Nah, these weeb sticks are nothing compared to 80 dex swift slash spam💀💀
Bro elden ring players (half at least) in pvp are like 80% ashes of war, it is like they dont know how to win without spamming them when actually knowing about the weapons moveset is what will make you win (like jeenine)
Dual great katana is chad
Bro what lvl would u recommend to stay and have a proper multiplayer?
Yeah Great Katanas are fun and well balanced and unique and cool looking but have you tried spamming lightning teleport?
Not surprised I mean it looks cool and what I've seen from the moveset it definitely seems like it. Also you done with dlc and are now pvping?
no, ive not done a single legacy dungeon yet, im exploring, taking my time enjoying the new stuff and also invading in between when I find a new weapon i can use
@@Jeenine Oh I guess that makes sense but that's good to hear I'm just surprised people would want to pvp already especially you can go to places you haven't been too.
@@Jeeninethis is the way to truly experience souls games
Moveset reminds me of the Longsword in Monster Hunter
I like the great katana too. As long as ss you can change the ash of war to something more useful im good.
Honestly if people start spamming range magic just use the erdtree shield
Not enough against a dedicated gank.
The running poke + piercing fang i mean Man i already tried it lol
Jee, what is your level / remnant level for invasions, I personally hesitate to upgrade and level up for dlc because I want to invade, what are your thoughts?
Great katana is what regular Greatsword should be
0:40 moonveil 2
Monster Hunter moveset baybee
They definitely need to nerf the amount of spam these host have been producing with these spells and weapons, since I can’t see the majority of invaders survive any of that.🐱
Its the same way in arena duels too its not fair trying to skillfully kill some dude thats throwing basically tactical nukes at me that cost nearly nothing thats before even talking about dlc spells or consumables idk they decided to add MORE cancer
just got this in game and then this popped up
is it your new fav weapon after Shunter and psgs now?
Swing and backstep
big katana, perfume bottles, and beast gloves can do the charged R2 into dodge thing like rapiers and curved swords
DLC weapons are stronger than their base game equivalents...checks note on Fromsoft history, completely un-surprising.
i fucking LOVE IT
will he finish the dlc? or will he just collect some weapons and directly play pvp?
Try and use the backhand blades. I think they’re alright but I wish they had more combo potential.
They are probably the best new weapon class and you just called them alright 😭
@@A.H.goose1 playing with them more I see why they are good, but only with the new ash.
on a trip for 2 weeks so i can't play the DLC too much 💔
hope there isn't too much broken shit, happy hunting jee
When DS 1 remastered came out I was on a work trip for 3 weeks. By the time I came back, the game was already dead. Somehow I don't think that will happen here.
Oh my god that sword looks badass
Could you do Fire Knight's greatsword?
I haven't used it myself yet but can anyone confirm if great katanas get hyperarmor?
I’m just wondering what the powerstanced move set is
If I had to guess, they copied the greatsword powerstance
they nerfed shunter to add a better version with more potential yikes
Where do you find it?
Try great katana off hand hand axe. Its really good
The tracking on dlc weapons a weird. Feels so strange, thay just miss where shouldn't it seems.
I hate fromsoft giving the best movesets to the ugliest weapon types, hope there is a western looking greatsword
Try it with Savage Lions Claw AoW 👌🏻
onimusha vibes
I'm closing my eyes, imagining G9 as a femboy, and he's playing with a long "weapon" of sorts 9:16
This DLC officially killed the game
What SL are people doing
Im so glad Fromsoft didn't kill PSGS like they did shunter.
What ash of war is at 4:07 ??
Solitude Greatsword
@@kev1502gotcha thank you
Pvp is really toxic rn. Probably just booger eaters who are on break rn
I would use the great katana but I think the moveset feels a bit stiff, but that’s just me.
I think thats the point, thats how a knight/heavy armoredsamurai fights is using the weight of their armor, their poise, so they can get away with more powerful slashes and pokes and utterally demolish their lesser-armoured foes. Plus they tend to be highly skilled
I still say colossals are the highest skill ceiling, sure they do a shit ton more damage but good luck hitting anything against someone who knows how to roll especially light rollers. Unless you use cringe BHS and know how to roll catch I guess. The mixups with the sword are crazy af tho.