It has become clearly evident to me that the developer responsible for designing the recent events over the past year or two is someone with "theme park" MMO game experience rather than sandbox MMO game experience. This is why these events feel like they’re "on rails", very rigidly structured, highly limited, and without any sense of contribution or enjoyment to them. Like seriously, it’s almost like the first year’s event, the Halloween event, was pre designed by someone else with sandbox experience and then this recent guy took over in 2021. I actually feel sad for the guy though and empathize with their stress at creating things that the players haven’t been liking. It’s like they’re only doing what they know and have experience with…yet they’re doing it in a completely different style of game, which is why there seems to be a big disconnect between them and the players. The lead designer seems to be dropping the ball here in terms of relaying the game’s vision to the other devs. PS. The corp management changes seem awesome though but again it seems like it was completely unplanned and just a fortuitous circumstance.
This is exactly whats wrong with the game. Why cant we get devs that have actually spent time in the original game to come over and help them out, or make the content thats necessary for this thing to grow. The original EO had a policy after the game came out for a few years where to apply for a dev position you had to have played the game for 3 years. Why cant that be mandatory for this game.
I used to armor tank until the balance patch and have switched to shield tanking. Additionally, the medium shield booster is more hp/cap efficient than the large. With the faster cycle times, it definitely feels better. Apples-to-apples, running solo T10 anoms, the medium is plenty and allows me to fit more aggresive/powergrid hungry modules so now my DPS goes up because of it. Love your content, especially your op-ed pieces. note: Another "hidden" mechanic for this event is to: 1. go to the same instance with your corp mates (the last 2 digits of the nihilus pocket will be the same) 2. fleet up once you're in 3. someone start to warp to the sun and someone else warp to them while they're mid-warp so they stop in the middle of space somewhere 4. everyone takes turns killing each other for tokens 5. after you quit and respawn, just hit the return to last area of space button on the event page to get back into the same "server" 6. fleet back up and warp to 7. ??? 8. profit! Cryh4v0k 1000933070
Thanks for the content. Did not understood the event completely. Was not clear what I have to do, now I'm a big step further, thanks.
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I don't understand why they did not put those site beacons behind an acceleration gate with limited ship size and use small, medium and large version of the sites doable by everyone. This would solve the issue with capitals camping perfectly. Also in mining belts there is so little of the ore that with my Covetor II belt is gone before i even finish half of strip miner cycle. So at the end I just keep warping belt to belt with no mining at all.
I honestly would have liked this event to be open world.. across new eden, not just get teleported in some enclosure. Have to scan down the entrances, and have the players actually look for content, clues, pieces of story.. and also rewards. Again, for me this event was really static and from the looks of it, poorly tested as some folks in local chat mentioned as well
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@@GicaForta True, open world would be even better with scanning included and such. From all of the events done so far only the first Halloween one was the most fun to me (the one where you had to enter the anomalies seeded all over the new eden and shoot and loot there). I totally loved the low sec ones for the pvp availability. No idea why they keep coming up with these new things and those that have been proven as fun and good are never showing up again...
As always, idea = 110/100 but implementation = 20/100 I have to commend the devs for being so creative, but creativeness is nothing without out of the box thinking, which they seriously lack and hence couldn't earn the respect they deserve. It's simply that before adding something, they forget to think 2 steps ahead - the advantages/disadvantages and consequences of whatever they are adding. Coming to this event, why couldn't they just have exploration anomalies instead of chaotic teleportation chambers? Also, 3 major flaws with this event are - 1. New currency, new store: who can explain to these guys that an mmo does not require so many currencies just for short term money making content? They could just provide quality content and earn respect + 2×money for what they earn for a single cash grab. Of course this event is afk farm able, but why do they always rely on a store for any kind of event? 2. Ninja patch: yes, the amount of container keys purchasable in the store was reduced from 10 to *just 2!* This was probably done to get more people to buy keys for aur/Plex and that's some serious gameplay by NE. In terms of event designing -110/100, implementation - 20/100, but money making opportunities - 20000/100... This is overly stupid on top of the money they already make through omega and other permanent stuff in game. 3. Capitals: Of course, capital ships should not get banned from the event. Instead such content should have been there where capitals were never required. People are bringing capitals to bully each other and just ruin their day. This is also revealing the capital ship pilots to enemy diplo standings for an alliance. Also, another problem here that's not directly related to NE or games is that even the blues are shooting other blues. There were many cases in VOID (including me) when a blue killed us in event space. Although it didn't incur any real loss, it still broke my heart on how our own friends could turn against us just for some stupid theme park ride. Bless the VOID diplo team who are enforcing BOB rules in event space as well to ensure people stay to their terms ❤️.
I managed to farm my two free keys, alas you have to get 20 keys to get anything useful so you can just ignore the event if you don't want to pay. If you are prepared to pay you can just buy the boxes from the market without having to get any points. I asked myself who this event is aimed at? I decided it is just aimed at whales wanting to camp a beacon and wipe out everyone, just because they can. I just scored points by warping to 9km from the beacon in a astero. I can cloak then go afk for a few hours. Great content
Anyone else here who sits and just being like “ hell yea, do that, why didn’t that happen?” Man netease can’t watch our content…. Cause if so… they just don’t care. Well done Gica my friend
The wording for Explore System is rather Ambiguous - and one does not need to use a wide Resonance scanner at all. I'm collecting tokens to get that retriever core.
I noticed that after I finished filming. I had gathered 15k points while cloaked, over 3 days of afk farming, and had hopes to get 3 boxes and 3 keys… my wife heard me from downstairs a sudden loud burst of foul language 😂
"This event doesn't completely suck, but it sucks". Yup that's pretty much the event. I liked the idea of mining with pve and pvp but the implementation was trash. That being said, i do feel pitty for the devs. After watching the latest dev Q&A, it seems very likely that there's only 10+ guys working on this. No art department, modeling department, storyline dept. Just one guy per role with a couple overlaps. It really does feel like a passion project from a couple guys, so desperate to keep things afloat that they don't even have time to play or test changes. It's obvious this event wasn't thought out or tested, just like most of their updates.
I don't understand why everyone is complaining about this event. We get events that are nothing but a cash grabs and if you weren't buying you weren't participating, everyone agrees the event is trash. We get events to go exploring with enough content to last 5 minutes, everyone says it was fun but they wish it lasted longer. Now we get an event that requires people to grind a bit, allows you to try ships you have never used, allows you to take your own ships in without loosing them, and allows PvE, PvP, and industry players to participate, and people are still calling it trash. Are there problems...yes the based DeShawn and respawn mechanics mean your sitting around waiting forever. That said I believe the elements associated with event make it pretty darn good. I think we should be expressing a little gratitude to the deves for a decent event as well as giving SOME constructive criticism on improving it. I know not everyone will share the same opinion but come on. Do people just log into Echoes with the daily agenda to take a dump on everything the devs do? There is a lot of bad and rough edges but I think they made a pretty good attempt with this event.
As I mentioned, the event is not complete garbage. But it’s not good either, just like you said. Not to mention they also did a shady mechanic. When the event started, the limit for the keys in the shop was = 10. Then they switched it to max 2 :))
Open the event screen, select High-sec system. Once there, warp to the station. Wait until a sleeper base is spawned (takes 30m-1h to spawn). Warp to it, start shooting them as fast as you can before everyone else destroys them
I know people are farming the hell out of this event for points, but this is just a really poorly designed “King of the Hill” event. This event isn’t the worst event they have ever introduced, but it is not good.
It has become clearly evident to me that the developer responsible for designing the recent events over the past year or two is someone with "theme park" MMO game experience rather than sandbox MMO game experience. This is why these events feel like they’re "on rails", very rigidly structured, highly limited, and without any sense of contribution or enjoyment to them.
Like seriously, it’s almost like the first year’s event, the Halloween event, was pre designed by someone else with sandbox experience and then this recent guy took over in 2021.
I actually feel sad for the guy though and empathize with their stress at creating things that the players haven’t been liking. It’s like they’re only doing what they know and have experience with…yet they’re doing it in a completely different style of game, which is why there seems to be a big disconnect between them and the players. The lead designer seems to be dropping the ball here in terms of relaying the game’s vision to the other devs.
PS. The corp management changes seem awesome though but again it seems like it was completely unplanned and just a fortuitous circumstance.
On rails - best term 👍 and your argument actually makes sense. It really does feel like someone else designed the halloween event
This is exactly whats wrong with the game. Why cant we get devs that have actually spent time in the original game to come over and help them out, or make the content thats necessary for this thing to grow. The original EO had a policy after the game came out for a few years where to apply for a dev position you had to have played the game for 3 years. Why cant that be mandatory for this game.
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I used to armor tank until the balance patch and have switched to shield tanking. Additionally, the medium shield booster is more hp/cap efficient than the large. With the faster cycle times, it definitely feels better. Apples-to-apples, running solo T10 anoms, the medium is plenty and allows me to fit more aggresive/powergrid hungry modules so now my DPS goes up because of it.
Love your content, especially your op-ed pieces.
note: Another "hidden" mechanic for this event is to:
1. go to the same instance with your corp mates (the last 2 digits of the nihilus pocket will be the same)
2. fleet up once you're in
3. someone start to warp to the sun and someone else warp to them while they're mid-warp so they stop in the middle of space somewhere
4. everyone takes turns killing each other for tokens
5. after you quit and respawn, just hit the return to last area of space button on the event page to get back into the same "server"
6. fleet back up and warp to
7. ???
8. profit!
Cryh4v0k
1000933070
Lmao. This is fun
Thanks for the content. Did not understood the event completely. Was not clear what I have to do, now I'm a big step further, thanks.
I don't understand why they did not put those site beacons behind an acceleration gate with limited ship size and use small, medium and large version of the sites doable by everyone. This would solve the issue with capitals camping perfectly. Also in mining belts there is so little of the ore that with my Covetor II belt is gone before i even finish half of strip miner cycle. So at the end I just keep warping belt to belt with no mining at all.
I honestly would have liked this event to be open world.. across new eden, not just get teleported in some enclosure. Have to scan down the entrances, and have the players actually look for content, clues, pieces of story.. and also rewards. Again, for me this event was really static and from the looks of it, poorly tested as some folks in local chat mentioned as well
@@GicaForta True, open world would be even better with scanning included and such. From all of the events done so far only the first Halloween one was the most fun to me (the one where you had to enter the anomalies seeded all over the new eden and shoot and loot there). I totally loved the low sec ones for the pvp availability. No idea why they keep coming up with these new things and those that have been proven as fun and good are never showing up again...
As always, idea = 110/100 but implementation = 20/100
I have to commend the devs for being so creative, but creativeness is nothing without out of the box thinking, which they seriously lack and hence couldn't earn the respect they deserve. It's simply that before adding something, they forget to think 2 steps ahead - the advantages/disadvantages and consequences of whatever they are adding.
Coming to this event, why couldn't they just have exploration anomalies instead of chaotic teleportation chambers? Also, 3 major flaws with this event are -
1. New currency, new store: who can explain to these guys that an mmo does not require so many currencies just for short term money making content? They could just provide quality content and earn respect + 2×money for what they earn for a single cash grab. Of course this event is afk farm able, but why do they always rely on a store for any kind of event?
2. Ninja patch: yes, the amount of container keys purchasable in the store was reduced from 10 to *just 2!* This was probably done to get more people to buy keys for aur/Plex and that's some serious gameplay by NE. In terms of event designing -110/100, implementation - 20/100, but money making opportunities - 20000/100... This is overly stupid on top of the money they already make through omega and other permanent stuff in game.
3. Capitals: Of course, capital ships should not get banned from the event. Instead such content should have been there where capitals were never required. People are bringing capitals to bully each other and just ruin their day. This is also revealing the capital ship pilots to enemy diplo standings for an alliance.
Also, another problem here that's not directly related to NE or games is that even the blues are shooting other blues. There were many cases in VOID (including me) when a blue killed us in event space. Although it didn't incur any real loss, it still broke my heart on how our own friends could turn against us just for some stupid theme park ride. Bless the VOID diplo team who are enforcing BOB rules in event space as well to ensure people stay to their terms ❤️.
This is actually a very good analysis 👍
@@GicaForta thank you very much sir ✌️😅
I managed to farm my two free keys, alas you have to get 20 keys to get anything useful so you can just ignore the event if you don't want to pay. If you are prepared to pay you can just buy the boxes from the market without having to get any points. I asked myself who this event is aimed at? I decided it is just aimed at whales wanting to camp a beacon and wipe out everyone, just because they can. I just scored points by warping to 9km from the beacon in a astero. I can cloak then go afk for a few hours. Great content
Anyone else here who sits and just being like “ hell yea, do that, why didn’t that happen?” Man netease can’t watch our content…. Cause if so… they just don’t care. Well done Gica my friend
Preferred tanking: Armor for PvP, Shield Guardian for fleets ;)
The wording for Explore System is rather Ambiguous - and one does not need to use a wide Resonance scanner at all.
I'm collecting tokens to get that retriever core.
You forgot to mention that the event only provides you with 2 keys and the rest have to be purchased with aurum or plex
I noticed that after I finished filming. I had gathered 15k points while cloaked, over 3 days of afk farming, and had hopes to get 3 boxes and 3 keys… my wife heard me from downstairs a sudden loud burst of foul language 😂
@@GicaForta lol mine heard me curse too. It's something like $80 in Aurum to get the faction choice box
@@dkrise6738 I don't even see the faction choice box, must be way up there in the manual.
@@darklordofapathy you have to open 20 boxes with keys to get the garaunteed choice box. It's basically a pitty system used by gacha games.
"This event doesn't completely suck, but it sucks". Yup that's pretty much the event. I liked the idea of mining with pve and pvp but the implementation was trash. That being said, i do feel pitty for the devs. After watching the latest dev Q&A, it seems very likely that there's only 10+ guys working on this. No art department, modeling department, storyline dept. Just one guy per role with a couple overlaps. It really does feel like a passion project from a couple guys, so desperate to keep things afloat that they don't even have time to play or test changes. It's obvious this event wasn't thought out or tested, just like most of their updates.
I don't understand why everyone is complaining about this event. We get events that are nothing but a cash grabs and if you weren't buying you weren't participating, everyone agrees the event is trash. We get events to go exploring with enough content to last 5 minutes, everyone says it was fun but they wish it lasted longer.
Now we get an event that requires people to grind a bit, allows you to try ships you have never used, allows you to take your own ships in without loosing them, and allows PvE, PvP, and industry players to participate, and people are still calling it trash. Are there problems...yes the based DeShawn and respawn mechanics mean your sitting around waiting forever. That said I believe the elements associated with event make it pretty darn good. I think we should be expressing a little gratitude to the deves for a decent event as well as giving SOME constructive criticism on improving it.
I know not everyone will share the same opinion but come on. Do people just log into Echoes with the daily agenda to take a dump on everything the devs do? There is a lot of bad and rough edges but I think they made a pretty good attempt with this event.
As I mentioned, the event is not complete garbage. But it’s not good either, just like you said. Not to mention they also did a shady mechanic. When the event started, the limit for the keys in the shop was = 10. Then they switched it to max 2 :))
i havent found 1 sleeper yet. what am i doing wrong?
Open the event screen, select High-sec system. Once there, warp to the station. Wait until a sleeper base is spawned (takes 30m-1h to spawn). Warp to it, start shooting them as fast as you can before everyone else destroys them
Honestly, you're doing nothing wrong. The pve aspect of this event was the biggest F of the whole thing.
@@dkrise6738 yeah thank you.. now im just cloaked in astero farming to buy. sp tokens...booring.
@@GicaForta thanks i will try that. Going to try a cloak on my bc
I know people are farming the hell out of this event for points, but this is just a really poorly designed “King of the Hill” event. This event isn’t the worst event they have ever introduced, but it is not good.
The current state of the game makes it feel sad and boring...
It would have been cool without caps.
I killed a few carriers with my bs ratting fleet but its still not really fun
It would have been something else entirely if these systems would have been scannable across new eden, not just teleportation to an enclosure…
@@GicaForta yeah that alone would have leveled up everything a lot
devs need to apologize for being so dumb
i preffer structure tanking cuz only real man tanks hull
Why would i do this......
It’s a scam anyway, only 2 keys can be acquired via tokens. You want more, you have to swipe the visa…
@@GicaForta maybe this is why i ignore every event since ive started
Think if more just boycotted these lame events they would do more?