Wow I won, thanks Gica that will help given I just yeeted my Orthrus into some low sec gate guns lmao - I am such a PvP noobie. I'm torn on the concord commendations, its nice to have the extra isk but that's just going to increase plex inflation and there is still a problem with the islands in that they are more lucrative than low (and in some cases null depending on how long it takes you to get a special to form!). Regarding the community question (please re-roll if I win) I use both shield and armour tanking equally depending on the situation. My Ashimmu, Orthrus and other cruisers do better with an oversized shield booster/cap battery. The Bhaalgorn is a better armour tank due to the core I happen to have on it. I can see more fleets having armour links to avoid the speed penalty of shield bubbles but small scale solo pvp is more what interests me than sitting on a gate camp for hours or timering PoS.
I started as an armor tank cause that’s what I did in Eve Online. Then everyone stated shield tanking was better and I wanted to pilot a Ferox Guardian so I switched it up. I’m gonna have to see more testing and confirmation before I switch again, even with the Lazorous units in the game, I don’t want to waste resources going back and forth anymore.
Honestly I dipped more into sheilds rather the armor for everything up larges I believe it's been a buff I'm excited to see how they further their tactics in the future. Very great video mate as always In-game name Vahlor
Hi, I cant agree with statement that glass Canon fits cant be used in null sec, i use it, and its very comfortable. Just keep your eye on the local and dock if nonblue enter system...
News missions, Story missions, Ratting ticks, Doubling ratting ticks, Loot from ratting....... Alot of ways for combat pilots to make isk but where is the same ways for Industry? If the industry patch doesn't even things up soon many of us are gone.
I recently undusted my Caracal NI as chasing the meta has become a dull affair in EVE while waiting for skills to secure the Raven. So I went all shields, small booster and 2 invulnerability this time playing close range. It ties nicely with mixed defense and loading bay rigs, maxed advanced and appropriate skills coupled with torpedo's and rapids combos (in case those frigates pop in). All this running with 2 Nosferatus and a warp scramblers which took down a Condor 2 Interceptor trying to PVP me in a storyline mission at Low-Sec. Cheeky bugger. I think I want to do up the Manticore next purely to clear Encounters quickly. Btw, I think they've changed it to 10 minutes in between bounty rewards. I recalled timing it. Will double check. Meanwhile cheers for an update. Server is back online. IGN: Sixthseal ID: 10000199379
Before the balance patch a large shield booster would have 2 times the hp/s of a med booster. On top of that 2 med armor reps were consuming as much cap as a single med shield booster but they would rep 3 times the hp/s for the same cap usage. Now they are tanking more but it would still require 2 of them to outmatch dubble armor reps and that consumes just to much cap. On some armor tanked ships I can even add a 3rd armor rep while still having an acceptable cap while 3 shield boosters would not tank that stable. I think the buff is good for ships like frigs that use a med shield booster (my cruor and my succubus) but for bc I would still use armor tank or a large shield booster. Lord_tirpitz 10005463657
Not against the rules. But also caught red handed haha. It’s ok to list other toons you have on separate giveaways. I am unable to grant the same toon the prize twice during the same month
Just started playing the new event, safe sector is boring, mining takes very long for few point and its ruled by mining barges , the sleeper ships just get deleted by a fleet of like 40 players that would laugh even at some t10 content, in 3-5 minutes all the ships are gone and then 20, 30 minutes to respawn, some hours ago there where even 2 Nidhoggurs among the players farming the base, while perilous sector =enormous fleets of all sorts of strong and op ships camping all the time. It seems like there is only one sistem of each for the entire New Eden meaning all the players have to compete with each other for the stuff, idk If it was a mistake from NetEase or something intentional so just few ppl can succeed at the event. About the comunity question: Its still shield, as you or Benzie said they changed the stats but its mainly the feeling, at least it feels somewhat diferent now and I agree, its good to see they are fixing some stuff, I usually used more shield but tbh armor isnt bad, but for most of the players I think shield will still be the main option unless you flying ships that should be armor tanked or realy like Amarr/Gallente ships Nothingsehere 10010341308
I still use shealds as i was before balanc update but now less cap stable becouse batery nerf XD lucky me inty red friends with intys also got nerf so i feel more safe now XD PIXISTOO 10000007009
This new system is totally pointless. Print isk from thin air this way helps the very advanced players and hurts the newer ones. It inflates isk and makes plex more expensive which punishes newer players most
Well, basically yes. Instead of cutting down the faucets, they added one more. However this fixed the problem of highsec vs nullsec. But like you said, for new players, the double of a small sum is still small, while for old players, double of big is a lot more
Actually they implemented the formula to limit Plex price so it can't rise above a ceiling. I quite support that heavily, it prevents manipulation of market prices.
@@GicaForta yep i understood but that creates hypothetical situations where alliances could manipulate market and make omega at ridiculously high prices for new players. Or the second option could be to remove most restrictions of omega, make it like Eve online where you could still use atleast 1 contract and fly up to basic battleships as an alpha.
IGN: Long John ID: 10007021253 I don’t have a preferred tanking method, it just depends on what ship I am flying and what content I am doing. If I’m PvPing in my Algos, I’m range tanking. If I’m ratting in my Raven, 3 reds and a large shield booster. Frigate hunting, I’ll go plates/extenders. If I “have to” pick a favorite though, E-war tanking. It is so satisfying completely nullifying your opponent’s high slot modules.
Hello7 sir! Need to say about last week's qotw, net ease surprisingly did not disappoint us! The patch notes and the screenshots of the event are OP! Must say, let's get our hopes high up again 😂. As for this week's qotw, umm i have always been a gallente fan since i joined EVE echoes. They are known to use armor tanking methods, so i have trained them and i use them 🙂. See, armor has cool advantages over shields: 1. You use less capacitor per cycle and that's really nice with railgun ships. 2. It's a bit faster per cycle as compared to shield boosters. 3. Armor has 10% base resists for the damage types it's weak to, unlike shields which are basically massacred by lasers/missiles. Yeah now people may say that using Armor in angel space is like being crazy 😂. But trust me, it's cool it's worth it to conserve your capacitor. Plus i like being Gallente ❤️. The balance patch did not affect me much i would say. I have Armor defense skills so i simply use that 🙂. Also i like playing glass cannon. What's better than eradicating your enemies as quickly as possible rather than extending the battle just by defending, that's my own ideology in any battle game 😅. M1ss1ngN0 10009826594
A very cool mantra. In pvp glass cannons are bad due to infinite cap and all that crap I talked about in one of the podcasts. If no more infinite cap, sure glass cannon works awesome in pvp. I had a glass cannon Torpedo raven in eve online. I was counting on my neuts to finish the job for me, hence using ewar + glass cannon is good. But if ewar is cut short by poor design than glass cannon is not viable
1. Just gonna say it up front, and get it right out of the way. Why was this mechanic added to Highsec? I get it in Nullsec, even Lowsec, but what danger is in Highsec? This would've been a great way to incentive risk v reward! Only bounties in Lowsec and Nullsec should be able to be selected for Concord Commendations! 2. You hit the nail on the head! Nullsec players HAVE TO fit for fights, and can't get bounties like highsec glass cannon fits! We're also always in fleet(if you're smart) so we DO NOT make what Highsec players make. Yes, there's higher level content and specials, but getting a fleet together online at the same time, isn't exactly a walk in the park. Smaller Nullsec corps like my own, struggle with Nullsec life in general. We have to hold our own, support alliance, find online time to do corp requirements, and war efforts! Highsec players have none of that. This week's question: I prefer Armor personally, always have because of lesser capacitor requirements. I have armor based fits at home(Gallente), yet I fly shield in doctrine fleets. I am expert 3 shields and armor, so whatever doctrine is, I can fly it! So far I haven't seen large armor based fleets, due to shield field mechanics vs armor link mechanics. Shield field's are easier to manage than armor links, as armor links are squad based. I'd say fleet doctrine's are roughly 75/25 shields/armor, but I'm 50/50 personally. Fly aggressive o7 Bradric 10009846802
Although I’m tech 10 I only fly cruiser ships, so my bounty ticks are sadly low, would be great if they extend the bounty tick time for different ship classes so people can rat in there favourite ships rather then just the meta. I mean where is the fun if everyone is flying battleships 🤷🏻♂️
I completely agree with you. I myself love cruisers even in real life. They should fix the game as such so that people could rat even in frigates and not completely dependent upon the highly skill and money intensive battleships or capitals
Wow I won, thanks Gica that will help given I just yeeted my Orthrus into some low sec gate guns lmao - I am such a PvP noobie.
I'm torn on the concord commendations, its nice to have the extra isk but that's just going to increase plex inflation and there is still a problem with the islands in that they are more lucrative than low (and in some cases null depending on how long it takes you to get a special to form!).
Regarding the community question (please re-roll if I win) I use both shield and armour tanking equally depending on the situation. My Ashimmu, Orthrus and other cruisers do better with an oversized shield booster/cap battery. The Bhaalgorn is a better armour tank due to the core I happen to have on it. I can see more fleets having armour links to avoid the speed penalty of shield bubbles but small scale solo pvp is more what interests me than sitting on a gate camp for hours or timering PoS.
I started as an armor tank cause that’s what I did in Eve Online. Then everyone stated shield tanking was better and I wanted to pilot a Ferox Guardian so I switched it up. I’m gonna have to see more testing and confirmation before I switch again, even with the Lazorous units in the game, I don’t want to waste resources going back and forth anymore.
I’ve stuck to shield tanking since starting, I dabbled in armor tanking in the test server but didn’t think a change was needed
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When we are running a special fleet rally point, we get around 40mil tiks and being able to claim that tik again is quite an income.
Honestly I dipped more into sheilds rather the armor for everything up larges I believe it's been a buff I'm excited to see how they further their tactics in the future. Very great video mate as always
In-game name Vahlor
Hi, I cant agree with statement that glass Canon fits cant be used in null sec, i use it, and its very comfortable. Just keep your eye on the local and dock if nonblue enter system...
Yes, it requires attention.. not snoring haha
News missions, Story missions, Ratting ticks, Doubling ratting ticks, Loot from ratting....... Alot of ways for combat pilots to make isk but where is the same ways for Industry?
If the industry patch doesn't even things up soon many of us are gone.
I recently undusted my Caracal NI as chasing the meta has become a dull affair in EVE while waiting for skills to secure the Raven. So I went all shields, small booster and 2 invulnerability this time playing close range. It ties nicely with mixed defense and loading bay rigs, maxed advanced and appropriate skills coupled with torpedo's and rapids combos (in case those frigates pop in). All this running with 2 Nosferatus and a warp scramblers which took down a Condor 2 Interceptor trying to PVP me in a storyline mission at Low-Sec. Cheeky bugger. I think I want to do up the Manticore next purely to clear Encounters quickly. Btw, I think they've changed it to 10 minutes in between bounty rewards. I recalled timing it. Will double check. Meanwhile cheers for an update. Server is back online.
IGN: Sixthseal
ID: 10000199379
Hmm, 10m? I’ll have to check. I tried before downtime and my bounty rewards still came after 20
Edit: also, rip condor ceptor haha
@@GicaForta I double confirmed, did a speed run and yes its 20 mins. my bad.
Before the balance patch a large shield booster would have 2 times the hp/s of a med booster. On top of that 2 med armor reps were consuming as much cap as a single med shield booster but they would rep 3 times the hp/s for the same cap usage. Now they are tanking more but it would still require 2 of them to outmatch dubble armor reps and that consumes just to much cap. On some armor tanked ships I can even add a 3rd armor rep while still having an acceptable cap while 3 shield boosters would not tank that stable. I think the buff is good for ships like frigs that use a med shield booster (my cruor and my succubus) but for bc I would still use armor tank or a large shield booster.
Lord_tirpitz
10005463657
@HGS sir trying to get omega on alts as well? 🤣
Not against the rules. But also caught red handed haha. It’s ok to list other toons you have on separate giveaways. I am unable to grant the same toon the prize twice during the same month
@@M1551NGN0 Yeah a little xD
@@GicaForta ah good to know
never heard of any rules like that xD
@@GicaForta ohhh so that's the thing. Never knew! 🤣
Just started playing the new event, safe sector is boring, mining takes very long for few point and its ruled by mining barges , the sleeper ships just get deleted by a fleet of like 40 players that would laugh even at some t10 content, in 3-5 minutes all the ships are gone and then 20, 30 minutes to respawn, some hours ago there where even 2 Nidhoggurs among the players farming the base, while perilous sector =enormous fleets of all sorts of strong and op ships camping all the time. It seems like there is only one sistem of each for the entire New Eden meaning all the players have to compete with each other for the stuff, idk If it was a mistake from NetEase or something intentional so just few ppl can succeed at the event.
About the comunity question: Its still shield, as you or Benzie said they changed the stats but its mainly the feeling, at least it feels somewhat diferent now and I agree, its good to see they are fixing some stuff, I usually used more shield but tbh armor isnt bad, but for most of the players I think shield will still be the main option unless you flying ships that should be armor tanked or realy like Amarr/Gallente ships
Nothingsehere 10010341308
I still use shealds as i was before balanc update but now less cap stable becouse batery nerf XD lucky me inty red friends with intys also got nerf so i feel more safe now XD
PIXISTOO
10000007009
I used to be a shield tank, but now im an structure tank ;)
Rofl. But structure tank isn’t really viable in echoes. In eve online it is tho…
20+ 20+ the structure bonus 6= 46mil
Yeah, didn’t take any sov bonuses into consideration
This new system is totally pointless. Print isk from thin air this way helps the very advanced players and hurts the newer ones. It inflates isk and makes plex more expensive which punishes newer players most
Well, basically yes. Instead of cutting down the faucets, they added one more. However this fixed the problem of highsec vs nullsec. But like you said, for new players, the double of a small sum is still small, while for old players, double of big is a lot more
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Actually they implemented the formula to limit Plex price so it can't rise above a ceiling. I quite support that heavily, it prevents manipulation of market prices.
@Saksham that actually ruins the business of traders. As soon as devs manipulate market it’s no longer a free economy.
@@GicaForta yep i understood but that creates hypothetical situations where alliances could manipulate market and make omega at ridiculously high prices for new players. Or the second option could be to remove most restrictions of omega, make it like Eve online where you could still use atleast 1 contract and fly up to basic battleships as an alpha.
IGN: Long John
ID: 10007021253
I don’t have a preferred tanking method, it just depends on what ship I am flying and what content I am doing. If I’m PvPing in my Algos, I’m range tanking. If I’m ratting in my Raven, 3 reds and a large shield booster. Frigate hunting, I’ll go plates/extenders.
If I “have to” pick a favorite though, E-war tanking. It is so satisfying completely nullifying your opponent’s high slot modules.
Hello7 sir!
Need to say about last week's qotw, net ease surprisingly did not disappoint us! The patch notes and the screenshots of the event are OP! Must say, let's get our hopes high up again 😂.
As for this week's qotw, umm i have always been a gallente fan since i joined EVE echoes. They are known to use armor tanking methods, so i have trained them and i use them 🙂. See, armor has cool advantages over shields:
1. You use less capacitor per cycle and that's really nice with railgun ships.
2. It's a bit faster per cycle as compared to shield boosters.
3. Armor has 10% base resists for the damage types it's weak to, unlike shields which are basically massacred by lasers/missiles.
Yeah now people may say that using Armor in angel space is like being crazy 😂. But trust me, it's cool it's worth it to conserve your capacitor. Plus i like being Gallente ❤️. The balance patch did not affect me much i would say. I have Armor defense skills so i simply use that 🙂.
Also i like playing glass cannon. What's better than eradicating your enemies as quickly as possible rather than extending the battle just by defending, that's my own ideology in any battle game 😅.
M1ss1ngN0
10009826594
A very cool mantra. In pvp glass cannons are bad due to infinite cap and all that crap I talked about in one of the podcasts. If no more infinite cap, sure glass cannon works awesome in pvp. I had a glass cannon Torpedo raven in eve online. I was counting on my neuts to finish the job for me, hence using ewar + glass cannon is good. But if ewar is cut short by poor design than glass cannon is not viable
@@GicaForta sir PvP? Or PvE? Because there can't be infinite cap in PvP?
It used to be, now after balance patch it’s partially infinite haha
@@GicaForta wait how? How could you be cap stable? I always struggle to be cap stable, I get only 2mins of capacitor on vigilant 🥲
That’s why they nerfed capacitor batteries. Because they were obscenely absurd. Cap batteries + extenders.. created wtf moments
What ship do you use for PVE
A dominix II sentry brawler. The one showcased here: th-cam.com/video/_YdtxNJNnSo/w-d-xo.html
1. Just gonna say it up front, and get it right out of the way. Why was this mechanic added to Highsec? I get it in Nullsec, even Lowsec, but what danger is in Highsec? This would've been a great way to incentive risk v reward! Only bounties in Lowsec and Nullsec should be able to be selected for Concord Commendations!
2. You hit the nail on the head! Nullsec players HAVE TO fit for fights, and can't get bounties like highsec glass cannon fits! We're also always in fleet(if you're smart) so we DO NOT make what Highsec players make. Yes, there's higher level content and specials, but getting a fleet together online at the same time, isn't exactly a walk in the park. Smaller Nullsec corps like my own, struggle with Nullsec life in general. We have to hold our own, support alliance, find online time to do corp requirements, and war efforts! Highsec players have none of that.
This week's question: I prefer Armor personally, always have because of lesser capacitor requirements. I have armor based fits at home(Gallente), yet I fly shield in doctrine fleets. I am expert 3 shields and armor, so whatever doctrine is, I can fly it!
So far I haven't seen large armor based fleets, due to shield field mechanics vs armor link mechanics. Shield field's are easier to manage than armor links, as armor links are squad based. I'd say fleet doctrine's are roughly 75/25 shields/armor, but I'm 50/50 personally.
Fly aggressive o7
Bradric 10009846802
Although I’m tech 10 I only fly cruiser ships, so my bounty ticks are sadly low, would be great if they extend the bounty tick time for different ship classes so people can rat in there favourite ships rather then just the meta. I mean where is the fun if everyone is flying battleships 🤷🏻♂️
I completely agree with you. I myself love cruisers even in real life. They should fix the game as such so that people could rat even in frigates and not completely dependent upon the highly skill and money intensive battleships or capitals
Looks like my comment inspired a new vid lol
Yep xD
@@GicaForta YOU OWE ME A TRISTAN!!!!!!!😜