SHOSTAKOVICH-Third Symphony ‘The First of May’ in E-flat major, op. 20-Valery Gergiev
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2021
- VALERY GERGIEV - MUSICAL DIRECTOR AND CONDUCTOR
THE MARIINSKY ORCHESTRA AND CHORUS
8 DE ENERO DEL 2013 - JANUARY 8th ,2013
TEATRO SALLE PLEYEL IN PARIS
Another outstanding performance. Gergiev did a marvelous job and so did the orchestra and chorus. No one conducts Shostakovich's symphonies like Gergiev. Thanks for uploading this.
Apart from the instance where Gergiev saw fit to mess with Shostakovich's orchestration by doubling the trombone with a trumpet. Of `all the stupid things to do!
My love for this great work grows.
Love the choir in the last movement
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I never his 3rd symphony
Very short for a shosta..symphony
uitstekend!
Le plus long roulement de timbales que j'aie jamais entendu !!!
I love shosakovich.
But sym 2 and 3 I can do without!
Well I heard it once, and that's enough for a lifetime. No need to comment.
go mcdonalds, kfc or mall's muzak for artistic fullfilment, son cheerio!
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The trombones at 23:39 pulled off that horrendously difficult excerpt very well! Though I’m puzzled as to why the trumpet is playing along with them as reinforcement because it doesn’t sound like they need it and it kinda takes away the idea of it being an exposed trombone soli
I've just viewed the same passage on another video that has the score. The score shows that the passage is written for the trombones. The trumpet does not play with them and is silent during the passage in question. It's odd that, for some reason, it was decided that the trumpet should double the trombones for this particular passage because, as you say, the trombones do not sound as if they need any help from a trumpet. Besides which, the passage only extends to a top B flat, and that is something which professional orchestral tenor trombonists should be able to manage without difficulty - as the trombones in this performance do. It's very strange that someone felt that Shostakovixh's orchestration needed revision.
Conductors do it all the time, @@LordoftheFleet
@@cubanbach I would agree that there are a number of instances where some bright spark, (not necessarily a conductor) has seen fit to tamper with a composer's orchestration. Janáček is a case in point. However, in general, I think it's still rather rare. Moreover, the point I'm trying to make is, witn regard to the case under discussion, there was absolutely no need for Gergiev to add a trumpet to the 1st trombone part. The trombonist is playing the passage perfectly well. Who the hell does Gergiev think he is!? Shostakovich wanted a trombone timbre at that point. If he thought a trumpet was needed for some reason, he would have added one in the score. It's not a conductors job to go messing with a composer's orchestration on the misguided assumption that he knows better than the guy who wrote it.
For years, conductors have fiddled with Schumann's symphonies. Even Mahler decided to tinker with Beethoven orchestrations! :) @@LordoftheFleet
لماذ لايتاح تنزيل السيمفونيه..؟
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Listening to this symphony for the 1st time...I'm surprised in the 1st movement of this early symphony how empty some of the music feels even then, a lot of frantic running about with no place to go. There are a few in the chat who seem critical and usually there are many more crying "masterpiece" for every symphony. I think the problem with his symphonic cycle is that so many of these works are memorials to wars and historic events, often commissioned and the inspiration for them is rather uneven. Many of them were just way longer than they needed to be. Particularly 11 through 15 suffer from this.
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Overrated conductor, Putin's friend
And what? Richard Wagner, for example, was anti-semite, and Hitler's favourite composer, his figure was widely used in nazi propaganda. And what now? We need to minimalize his talent and cal him "Overrated"? We need to speak firstly about talents of artists, not about their political position
And what? And since when is it decent to be a friend of American politicians whose hands are up to the elbows in blood? They have unleashed a second Afghanistan in the center of Europe, terrorists have undermined the civilian infrastructure that belongs to European campaigns
@@user-kf8dz3ic7u artistically he’s overrated. That’s my opinion
@@user-kf8dz3ic7uI agree with you completely, for example I’m an observant Jew and still like Wagners music. It’s not even about that though, Gergievs just a bad conductor and artist in general
@@user-kf8dz3ic7uwagner was a composer, true artist, authentic, unique and genuine. What has Gergiev done compared to him?