A Better Kokomi or a Hydro Qiqi? | Sigewinne Initial Kit, Builds, & Teams Analysis
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- Sigewinne will be one of three upcoming characters coming to Genshin Impact in Patch 4.7. This video has my first impressions, thoughts, and initial theorycrafting of her (all hypothetical, of course)! Remember that everything is subject to change.
Timestamps:
00:00 - Sigewinne Mechanics
04:01 - Constellations
05:09 - Potential Builds (Weapons, Artifacts Sets/Stats)
06:47 - Sigewinne's Major Issues (ICD, Role, Teams)
09:31 - Concluding Thoughts (How Good is She Right Now?)
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i can finally trap hydro abyss mage inside the bubble. its a reverse uno card mthfkr
It will probably only be hilichurls
@@grr3467Isn't Hydro Abyss Mage a light enemy and not a heavy enemy like Mitachurl?
@@ShevaAlpha2002 it is. but you cant cc them while they are on shield. after breaking the shield i will trap them forever
What I hate, especially after seeing her C2, is that they missed a HUGE opportunity to make her the first team hydro shielder 😭 Hoyo is definitely not desperate for money because people would 100% pull simply for the novelty
Should’ve been hydro shielder 😞
they are def crazy for money, cuz thats the 100th hydro 5*
What are you guys on about, We have Candace and Hydro Traveler (jk)
Her animations are so cute I want it to work so bad
sameee
@@lylyartI’m just going to make her a dps after looking about her idles, I need her
With the info From this video alone, It honestly sounds Hoyo wasn’t sure what they wanted her to do with her.
They just wanted say here is a Healer with Bond of Life mechanics.
Sigewinne's only selling point is our long awaited ability to trap enemies in hydro bubble (apart from being cute).
ITS FINALLY DUCKING REVENGE TIME YOU HYDRO DUCKING ABYSS MAGE!
Literally Mona's burst does that though 😅
If the kit stays this way I'm gonna cry fr
Sige bubble apparently applies hydro every other bounce now (so 3 apps). Source is Kyoko from KSM, the one who did the hitbox table for Arle and other infos.
not 5 apps? It normally bounce 5 times
@@AAa-gj4rs Nope, welcome to Genshin, there is something called ICD. Google it up.
@@nicolasjadoul3858Is ICD short for interval cooldown?
@@AAa-gj4rs Every other bounce = 1 application per 2 bounce, so hydro is applied only on 1st, 3rd, and 5th bounce.
But her cons give her up to 8 bounces, so 1, 3, 5, 7 applies hydro
the ult is so stupid, "she is a support so lets give her a high cost, high field time and low damaging ult"
it only lasts 2.5 seconds so she ran away from field time
25% max hp on an HP scaler isn't that low tho, no specifics yet how many times per second it hits but it's 25% per hit, and her cons increase the duration. So she is clearly meant as sub DPS and she has high hp scaling on her dmg
@@uribove depend on what do you mean by sub dps, is it like navia in quickswap team?, the dmg is still not enough for the amount of field time, even if they increase the multiplier, at that point just use neuvilette if you really need the damage (e, ca, swap back).
@@hqdwoahfouaehuoawfasgsrhsrdedb navia is a quick swap main dps, not a sub dps
@@hqdwoahfouaehuoawfasgsrhsrdedbI mean sure but she is a sub dps, and with constellation she can cut resistance to hydro and be really good with neuvilette
wish her c2 was in her main kit, as we dont have a shielded with hydro plus the hydro resistance down is amazing in mono hydro teams. Hopefully they buff her a bit
I wish Hoyoverse change Sigewinne's current kit to become hydro Baizhu where she is healer/shielder support (although the shield won't be as strong as Zhongli's shield).
Maybe i'm coping hard (and hyperbloom is a super functional 3 characters core) but sigewinne furina nahida raiden sounds fine with sige healing furina's draining and buffing furina and nahida damage. It's not dependant on auto attacking so sige can ult, hold her E and try to chargeshot some bubbles while the other three do the hard work
yea hyperbloom with Nahida/Furina can carry
kokomi would still do that and an actual good amount of damaga
@@aurihora1423yeah honestly its just copium to use sigewinne since kokomi burst allows 100% uptime of e and does healing too
tbh her ca bubbles are SUPER slow
@@jacolersmaybe they dont like kokomi
her burst only lasts 2.5 seconds without C4 😞
What is this kit lmao
So
1) She heals off field but only for 5 bounces, with an insanely long CD
2) She wants field time for her ult despite being a support
3) Her hydro application is practically non-existent
4) Her C2 and C6 only fix some issues in her base kit, C4 is literally a nerf for supports. C1 is, uh, "wow, 2 more instances of hydro application"
I'd say she can only be saved if they add C2 and C6 to her base kit (nerfed ofc, make it like 10% HP shield to shield your active character + 10% res down, and like only a 20% crit rate buff, ditch the crit damage or something)
That or they make her damage ticks way stronger, because 1800 damage is trash
1800*1.5(avg elemental dmg bonus)*2(avg crit damage) = like 5400 extra damage per tick, a total of 54000 damage total per burst, assuming your supports without good crit ratios don't steal the ticks, which isn't worth it ngl
hopefully we see some big changes next week
she has gotta be a character that gets better with time baizhu with fontaine and kuki yae with sumeru, or they compete change her ult to actual do something, idk i dont think she bad i just dont know what shes supposed be used for
either this is an extremely long cook or the kitchen is on fire
I really hope hoyo is cooking something really good for her. Because at least baizhu on release could be a budget/comfier nahida and had some good teams but sigewinne looks to be in a much worse state in release :(
Just like Dehya in.. oh, sorry, she'll never be better.
@@Mickerson think at this point her best role is comfy healer with good damage from buff and clam in a furina team
@@TimeOutCrimeCraftOk doomposter.
Very nice and informative analysis! Im excited for your Clorinde video now
thank you! hopefully I can finish Clorinde's video soon!
I think the BoL in her kit is gonna become very important in the future meta and probably the main reason to pull her
But she applies it only to herself?
Fontaine is ending... I don't think Bond of Life will be a recurring mechanic in Natlan, as they generally introduce new mechanics each region (Em Scalings in Sumeru, HP-changing and BoL in Fontaine).
@@teo2805
There are always a few characters that match a future nation mechanic before the nation comes out
@@skyden4637 but Bond of Life has always been in Fontaine since the first fontaine craftables. I don't think it'll be a Natlan thing
@@thechocowizard
Bond of Life has been on TWO weapons (minus Arlecchinos). BoL is not a Fontaine mechanic because 2 weapons and 2/3 characetrs have it
At BARE MINIMUM she needs to have either good hydro application or damage, better than a 4 star. Sigewinne is not worth the cost of a 5 star pity with these numbers.
her application suxks, its very uneven and even tho i love her, its rlly hard to fit her in a reaction team without messing things up 😭
@@sigewinnieee I love her, too!!😭😢 - but I don't want to pull a very deep constellation just to make her copium decent. Hoyo made her kit a monstrosity of mid.😔
@@HigherEchelons tbh i already have baizhu (best healer in the game) so i REALLY dont need her, since she has nothing especially good on her kit
holy crap she’s got a gun
Remember that we don't have standard characters from Fontaine yet😂😂😈😈🤧🤧
Last time we got one was Dehya no thank you
I'm hoping Clorinde is the standard banner sacrifice. It'll be funny.
@@EinSilverRosenah hoyo too money hungry for that
Hydro Qiqi seems about right
I have no idea why her c2 isnt part of her base kit or even c1 her skill bounces pretty few times for such a long cooldown and she should apply hydro w every bounce like kokomi’s jellyfish
I think I'm gonna pick Baizhu over Sigewinne for now unless Sigewinne got a huge buff in beta test.
tbh, pick baizhu
his healing is cool, the snake talks, hes dendro which makes him special, he has long hair, he has pretty waist, all things you need in a healer
im a little sad that her ult seems so counterproductive to the rest of her kit, i thought we were past the era of supports with useless bursts bc they do no dmg, dont buff, etc. she looks like a 4 star at a first glance
I’ve said this before but, if she can trap opponents in bubbles can she crowd control with freeze? Maybe large enemies?
Don't think we've seen what the trapped animation looks like, so don't know it's strength. Unlikely to CC larger enemies since it says "weaker opponents", but who knows, we'll see.
Nami in genshin🤫
I’ve seen the videos, she currently only traps small slimes and normal hilichurls. Possibly other small enemies too such as fungi
Only 1 enemy gets stuck inside the bubble each time and they only stay in the bubble for about 4 seconds until the bubble hits the next enemy and traps them.
So her crowd control is useless right now, worse than xianyun’s
If she could legit trap a Mitachurl I would consider pulling for that alone. Would be hilarious to see.
I would say a Hydro Qiqi. Her selling point is giving BoL and a way to clear it. Hydro application doesn't seem good on crowd when you play bloom. Unless they give it a small cc upon bouncing on enemies, we'll see. No need to mention the burst, it's literally pointless.
her best attribute are her animations 👍
I wish she had a centralized role, because everything that can be considered for her has some drawback or isn't played into :( I was hoping she'd be realllllly good since I've been waiting for her since her reveal but screw that she's weak screw everything I'm pulling and praying I don't lose my 8th 50/50
respect the commitment, she'll be buffed, trust 🙏
Can the burst at least heal teamates? Please?
ik shes like,,, rlly weak but she's so cute. look at her!! look at her heart bubbles!!!
i think sigeweinne banner will be skipped a lot by all the furina wanters, making this another KEQING BANNER INCIDENT.
There is no confirmation furina banner is next patch. I doubt she's gonna appear, coz these banner are stacked.
There is no furina sq in that patch so got good sales I see her going to 4.8
No furina in 4.7 is the exact reason why sigewinne might get skipped cuz they do the exact same thing furina just being better and more popular.
@@takhupadi9957 at the end of the day it's the furina baizhu incident purely for future impact
I can see her working well in an Itto, Gorou, Furina comp but that’s literally it
am i reading that right her ult does 21.2% of her max hp times 6? if thats the case her damage is not bad at all unlike u said in the video
even if its only times 2 thats still a whopping 41.4% of her max hp on her burst which is still insane on a character thats easily gonna be reaching 50k+ hp… her hp scaling is legit higher than nilou’s nuke ult
it is 21.2% * 6, but even then you need to 1. build enough ER to burst, 2. also invest in crit, and 3. the field time is a huge cost. If she's serving as a healer/support, she can't just also do damage without giving up a lot, thus making her burst damage not worth IMO.
@@anddadif you max her talent and have her constellation it's 25% 6x which is a fair bit higher. Plus her cons also increase the ult time by 3sec so let's assume that means 3 to 6 hits extra depending on how fast the dmg applies
@@uribove c6 sigewinne hype 😎
@@uribove and the fact is 99% of player will not pull for her cons so c0 siegwinne sucks really bad
Whats the point of her compared to Kokomi? Shes just worse and not exactly more fun. She cant apply a lot of Hydro, so taking out a a Xingqiu or Yelan for her isnt likely, and we also have very very good non-hydro Healers already 🥺 I like her visually but I dont see how she is above anything. They should really focus on her off field buffing to make her niche at least.
I agree, either increase her buff to give her a support niche, or give her some real off-field hydro application so she's just an alternative to Kokomi.
I hoped Sigewienne could gave been a healer that could apply BoD and use that to her advantage and when she uses her ult it's the same as Arle where she would deal a lot of damage + it could heal allies if aimed at them in co-op 😕 it would have been really unique because aside from Kokomi, we havent had any dedicated healer dps's that has had unique mechanics.... They failed to balance kokomi being a dps and a healer, and they had a aecond chance to do it with Siegeween. Unless her damage is really good to compensate for her lack of support capability, she won't really outshadow anyone like Kokomi, Furina, let alone Qiqi...
I was hoping for a BoL sharing support as well, would be very interesting.
I’m actually really excited for her! I mainly see myself using her for the support capabilities I can get from her kit, artifacts and weapons. Atm, I’m hoping to get her c2 for the shield and res shred for my Furina teams
She’s really the comfort unit I’ve looking for to use with my Furina and I can only assume she’ll get better with Natlan with Bond of Life becoming more prevalent in the game and without a doubt, I’m sure it’ll be a main mechanic in the new region
Even at c0, I’m still excited for her none the less ^_^
@@golfymalfy8922 I'm glad that you're excited! A breathe of fresh air from all the doom and gloom. C2 is indeed a powerful buff, her healing will give mega comfort, and Furina can take advantage of her buff. Praying for some buffs to make her stronger 🙏
Sigewinne Chiori Albedo Furina CHIORI GANG WE ARE SO BAAAAACK (We are not)
I know there’s 3 recommended artifact sets in here but if I just want to spend my time farming one domain which one right now do we think is more optimal for sigewinne
Either one of the healing sets should be safe for her as a healing support. The ideal domain also depends on whether or not you have characters that can utilize the other artifact set in the domain. However, I would wait and see if any big changes arrive first to be safe; perhaps it will change her best artifact options.
a char that does almost nth by heal in 2024 is actually crazy, saw one guy in a disc batchesting 200k ults lol but, sige ult taking up the field time of 1.5 neuv cas to do the dmg of 1.5 neuv ticks is a bit pepega
surely a screenshot number makes a character good 🙃
@@anddad Eula.😂😂, i mean she's not bad but there's alot of weird things in her kit.
Gonna play her for tazer with with yae, furina and on field sayu
I wonder if hydro shield from C2 will frezze sieg?
Also just not getting frozen as hydro healer is a buff itself lol.
I always been bias towards hyrdo have c1 furina and c1 nilou pulled nilou her first banner loved her since so definitely getting her and have a guaranteed
I know GEnshin doesn't change too much about kits in beta, especially compared to HSR, but I think they can really tweak her dmg to be a healer that does high dmg AND healing with her burst. I want her skill to be just healing sure, but her burst, if she's gonna be on field with it, should do just insane dmg and heal the party a shit ton. She IS Neuvillette's "child" after all
Genshin CAN change a lot of beta kits if they want to -> Arelcchino is a perfect case study 😄
i'll never understand why hoyo has the weird idea of defensive units with a DPS focused burst or Mechanics. The best examples with this Archetype of battle healers are Kokomi and c6 Dori because they provide more than just damage, like I.E application and Healing even though i'm pissed that Kokomi's minus 100% Cr meaning that i'm unable to use fav with her, Dehya's burst does nothing besides punch and Sigewinne burst is just weaker neuvillette, and i hope this is not true but i heard that she only applies hydro once from her ult..
Which website do you use for these details bro.
Mostly gi13.hakush.in/
also looks like Project Amber is back to having this info as well: ambr.top/en
I think Sigwinne is really cute, but I can’t get over the fact that they gave us a human character with the ears and are trying to convince us it’s a melusine. Genshin created an entire race of creatures with a unique body type and a history of discrimination and hatred and then gave us the blackface version as a playable character.
yea Hoyo just being a bit lazy with character design by just using existing models. wondering when they will introduce new body types/different creatures other than human body models 🤔
She is kind of... Fontaines Dehya?
The hydro abyss mage will now be getting it. He ruined my laptpp spacebar, so I will ruin his life bar.
Well, I suppose they couldn't release 2 strong 5*s in the same patch, and I'm glad it was Clorinde!
Chlorinde is a DPS, which are the first to be power crept, and she won't even be better than Neuvillette, who will be power crept by a stronger DPS in Natlan.
Sigewinne on the other hand will be the new meta hydro utility, able to DPS, heal, CC, and buff.
these theory crafters do garbage sense and spread misleading infos
Beta means it is not the final product
Same goes for Kazuha-venti situation where these type of theory crafters say kazuha is worse than venti in fact its a total opposite
So just wait for the final release
@@user-sw3ns4hm8j Why do I care about powercreep when I can clear with dps Lynette? Do meta slaves still exist in Genshin of all games?
@user-sw3ns4hm8j powercreep in genshin. Bruh, I'm still using lisa and kaeya in floor 12. What are you fighting that needs new 5 stars
@@user-sw3ns4hm8j I'm a Sigewinne lover and future haver and even im not coping that much that she'll get buffed..
I think just like Furina, eventhough they can heal in their kit but they're not meant to be a build as a healer. Based on her leak kit I assume she's a sub DPS with a quick swap kind of gameplay.
Sounds like a 4 star character kit with 5 star animation
She looks like a 4 star but hoyo needs to milk oir wallets 😭
these theory crafters do garbage sense and spread misleading infos
Beta means it is not the final product
Same goes for Kazuha-venti situation where these type of theory crafters say kazuha is worse than venti in fact its a total opposite
So just wait for the final release
@@nagaito10 Thanks because I'm debating on whether if I have to choose Sigewinne or Baizhu.
@@nagaito10 I'm not theory crafter, just my thoughts man
@@bloonbrawler9872 u mustve not seen her animations. clorinde and sigewinne look next level
the only thing i can do is put her on my navia furina team instead of charlotte.
why put so much thought & effort into the animations and none on her kit
or maybe on klee kazuha furina for forward vape
Ah so she's the new standard banner 5 star!
🫡 let's see if the dehya incident repeats
They need to do 2 things to her kit and it would make her a must have for me with how my account is setup. If her ability to buff charge attacks gets its limits removed for unlimited hits and all E skill hits, and the scaling of that buff to be increased. Then I could use her on a team with Yae, Nahida, Fischl, Sigewinne or a team of Navia, Furina, Chiori, Sigewinne and it would feel good to me.
yea making her buff better like that can make her actually have a niche she can be strong in. another easy fix is just to increase the buff number as well
Good analysis, Mihoyo really did it dirty to her.
Her buff to off field skill character it’s interesting for nahida, yae, furina team
I'm going off the assumption that the stacks are shared among all characters, so only 10 total hits are buffed vs. a potential 30 buffed hits in the team you mentioned
Since she has bond of life would it help alecchino?
no. the BoL is only applied to Sigewinne herself.
wait deyha buff...?
Maybe she'll be new standart unit?
Sorry I got nothing against her, but anyone else also think she should really be a 4 Star character?
She's a bit like Chevreuse, but Hydro instead of Pyro, and utility wise not as good and is a 5 Star instead of 4 Star...
currently it really seems that way, but we'll see what happens in the upcoming weeks
I still wanna play with her as a DPS ;
i respect that 😎
she has a lot of field time huh
from charging the skill bubble to using the ult beam
which is not desirable for a healer...
Freeze might be good
Fat chance
I just want a sailor moon coded gameplay character similar to Barbara and Sigewinne with a good kit. 😭 I’m so sad that Sigewinne might have to be a skip 😞
Clorinde next
yep she's the next video alright
Ill go tancity
Her buff is even MORE negligible with golden troupe existing 😂 who let the intern cook
What about clorinde kit
next video! working on it as quickly as possible!
Does she bring anything new to the game?
with her current kit iteration, I dont think so
She sounds lile a standard banner character
please clorinde explain pleaseeeee
i'm working as much as i can 😭 it will be the next video i post
@@anddad thanks man thanks i love ur work
@@user-ip2qx8ij6l thank you so much!
New standard banner 5* incoming 🤣
*cough* standard banner *cough* deyha 2.0 *cough*
I honestly cant believe Genshin ruined another character I was waiting for. this kit is hot garbage....
still got 3/4 weeks for beta changes!
@@anddad **consumes all copium reserves**
I mean she's good but you need C2 at minimum : (
@@matrixfull and if you want dps, c4..
Wait, this is too weak. Is she going Standard 😮
Personally I’m really excited for her and I will be using her in a mono hydro team except without kazu I’m gonna use dps Mona for the ultimate dmg boost team (and my Mona is c5 so it feels silly to not use her lol)
i honestly couldn't care less, she's freakin cute
i dont care about her kit, all i want is to collect the loli archons thats it hahahha
"(Barbara) is not good"
People are still underestimating Barbara's hydro application?
I don't particularly care if Siegwinne is omega meta or not. She's just too cute for me to not get. I don't bother with Spiral Abyss either and it seems that anyone who no lifes thinks it's so easy even non meta 4 star characters can 12 star the Abyss no problem without actually trying to do that themselves. Heck, I've seen people clear the 12th floor with Amber and Aloy DPS teams.
Even if Siegwinne is underwhelming there should be some team comps she can slot in just fine. After all, people still think some characters like Dori are useless without actually experimenting with them at all or thinking Dori actually needs C6 to be usable when she's fine at C0.
Saying that C0 Dori is fine is one of the hardest copium I've witnessed in recent times.
Everyone's misunderstanding the value of Sigewinne, who can heal, DPS, CC, and buff. Does Kokomi do that? Qiqi, lol.
Genshin community sucks at understanding new meta characters.
Yeah i plan to run her with Zhongli + Furina + Sieg + Navia team.
Also low hydro application will work well with Eula and if the bubles can keep enemy monsters cced, it makes it easier to burst the sword Q damage.
Maybe she will even work in Dehya + Nahida + Yae miko team (less hydro reactions, more electro) and make it so you dont have to stand near yellyfish to not die :P
Also, hydro application will probaly apply to each monster seperate.
Her slow hydro apps might work with Alhaitham quick bloom as well and that might let him use Furina since I don’t have plans to pull Baizhu
her heals are good, her cc is alright, her dps window is short, her buff is small and limited, and her hydro application is shite. sige won't be replacing kokomi in her team with that hydro app. atleast she has a unique playstyle.
I’m late.
Hydro Qiqi 😂😂😂💀💀
In short: more ghetto style animation à la Neuvillette, and bond of life mechanic. I'm out
Hydro qiqi... oh well i dont like her that much as a character anyway. Skip
Meh
I think the next change will most likely be to make her special charged attack scale on hp, as it would push her further into the dps hybrid role. Also she could be insane if they increase her skill dmg buff as a lot of meta units use skill