Tenere 700 Valve Clearance Check: The Easy Way?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ค. 2023
- Removing the valve cover on the T7 to inspect the clearances is no easy task. Recently Nerb1 demonstrated one way of doing it, by disconnecting the entire wiring harness and moving it to the side. He suggested that removing some engine mounts and dropping the motor forward might be an easier option, so I decided to give this a try since my 40,000km service was due. Nerb's video explains how to measure the valve clearances and re-shim if necessary: • How to - Tenere 700 va... I've also previously done the 'spark plug access mod' to this bike, detailed in this video: • Tenere 700 Spark Plug ... You may need to remove some of that stuff in order to drop your engine if you haven't done that mod yet. In this video I also change out the spark plugs, grease the steering head stem bearings, and replace the fork oil.
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We often question our abilities. But sometimes you can amaze oneself with the results by giving it a go. I tip my hat, and give you a high five because you had a go. And you did it Josh! You're a clever Lad! 👍😁
Thanks Bob! Looking forward to hopefully meeting you blokes in a few weeks, keep the shiny side up mate!
I think it doesnt really matter if the lobes are pointing forward or backward.... in either direction they are not pressing the valve and the lobe is round, so it shouldnt make a difference.
Glad you gave it a go. I'll do it that way at 80,000 :)
So you reckon that looked easier than what you did? Yeah I couldn't get the feelers to go thru properly with the lobes pointing inwards, they still went between the lobe and the bucket but it wasn't as satisfying as the other way around somehow 😬
Hey josh, good effort. I remember doing my valves check on my 500 exc at 500 hours and they were still in specs but at the limit so like you i said f*** it it is still good. Then at 680 hours the timing chain jumped and valves hit the piston and game over. So don't go too far before shimming them properly. Cheers
Jeez the 500EXC was probably due for it's 3rd top end at 500 hours 😅 Bit different to a low maintenance twin, but I hear ya man I'll check em again in a while now that I know it's not too bad of a job 👌
The adjustable wrench you called a "Shifter" I have nicknamed "The universal nut rounder". Thanks for the video Josh!
Hahaha yeah that's what they do best! I realised later that I should have used my tyre lever, it has a 27mm on one end 😬 Cheers
Have to tip my hat to you nothing ventured nothing gained. Great job mate. So glad i found your channel i love your work
Thanks Sam!
Nice video but personally after all the work, I would have brought all shims to the middle of the tolerance. Would have never needed to touch the shims again ever again. Also, when doing such a job, replace all other parts you have access to. Spark plugs, air filter, coolant, valver cover gasket... After that, everything is new and serviced. One wash.
Nice job Josh, big job for the valve clearance check 🤔think I'll be taking mine to the Yamaha shop💲💲. Interesting to read all the comments about the steering head stem bearings being under greased but yours looked fine👍, cheers 🍻🍻
I'd actually already done them once before at 6,000 km mate, probably should have mentioned that. But yeah they were a bit skimpy with the grease from factory, swingarm and linkage too. Have done them all once already, probably why they're still in good condition 👌 Cheers
Great stuff Josh, good watching.
Thanks John 🤙🤙
No wonder you were dreading doing your valve clearances, what a mission.. well done Josh, life's good 👍 😊
Not so bad after all 🍻
Well done Josh, it's always a sign of a great mechanic when he says [ I hope it runs] lol😊 seriously good job mate.
Hahaha yeah ya never know when I'm on the tools Ian 😁 Cheers mate
Saved yourself a bucket load of money there Joshua. I bet that lemon squash tasted like gold after that!
Sure did mate 😅👌 Was a daunting task to undertake but glad to get it done 🙏
Nice job !!!!! very good explanation. Helpfull tips Thanks
Cheers 🍻
Next time i need someone to do major work on the DR I'll think I will hit you up. Top effort there young man. Cheers 🍻
Should be able to do the DR blindfolded after that mess 😁 Cheers mate 🍻🍻
Hey Josh, bloody brilliant, well done job on the tools, we can all learn from this....David...Adelaide/Kilburn...Tiger 900GT & Scrambler.......nice
Thank you sir 😁
Surprised you didn't change them while you were in there but i guess if they need changing it should be even easier next time hey! Cheers 4 sharing sir.
Yeah I know I sometimes like to make work for myself but not this time mate 😬 A mechanic once told me they are better off at the tight end of the range anyway cause there's less valve slap or lash or whatever ya call it 🤷♂ Cheers broheim thanks for the comment 😎
👍👍 seems a better way of doing it josh 🎉😊
Cheers mate yeah wasn't too bad at all 🍻
“On the limit “…? I would have re-shimmed after going that far and put new spark plugs whilst having the access. Top banana for doing it though, I’ll drop the engine when its time to do mine thanks for the info
Spark plugs aye yeah shit what was I thinking 😜 11:46 As for re-shimming, I'm certainly no mechanic but my experience with these things tells me after 40k those valves are just bedded in nicely and shouldn't really move any further, as long as the air filter is kept in good order and the engine doesn't get dusted. I've also been told (by an actual bike mechanic) that the clearances are better off at the tight end of the tolerance as there's less valve lash when the engine is cold 🤷♂ Either way, for me taking the cams out and shit and putting it all back together properly is a much harder task than doing what I did in this vid, so I'm happy to leave it till next time. Fairly certain I'll be selling this bike before 80k either way 🍻👍 Cheers
Apologies #11:56…new spark plugs!! Obviously I must’ve been momentarily distracted -missed that part. 😞
yep, on the limit is different than past the limit as I understand it. If things are on the limit they are still good. Past the limit = not good and time to adjust
Glad I switched from the t7 to the GUZZI v85 before 40k km, on the GUZZI valve check even though it’s on 2 different cylinders is a 30mn job 😁. Nice job Josh ! 💪🏻
Cheers mate yeah it was tempting to get rid of it 😅
better swap the Motoguzzi out too when it needs work ae? 😆
@@MissionMitchAdventures I you can wrench on a tractor you can wrench on the Guzzi :D the rear shaft drive oil even smells like tractor oil :D
Impressive effort Josh. I had mine done at the dealership (BMW F800GS) and it cost >$700 - ouch.
Yikes, yeah it's a pretty big job on these modern multi-cylinders, especially when re-shimming is required 😬 Thanks for watching mate
@@MVDBR Someone message me ant told me they were quoted $2000 for the T7. Frking rediculous!
@@Nerb1 😵😵
In the late 70's and early 80's Yamaha used to promote their machines being serviceable. My, what a backwards nightmare this is on a T7. I thought my 701 was painful, no way, not on your scale! Then again, my old faithful XR400, 15 minutes done. Progress! Oh wait.
Yeah I hear ya mate my old enduros (even the modern ones) are a helluva lot easier than this shit. Too much shit crammed in there like ABS and pollution crap on the bigger bikes these days.
@@MVDBR they no longer make engines actually for the role and we see this ridiculousness. Just watched a walk around of the new Transalp, it’s the same with the sump asking to be taken out and the pipes going underneath.
Anyone with a design brief for the real world would have the sump flat, oil in the frame, pipes around the side, engine mounted lower in the frame, either air box on top or a bigger fuel tank. I’m not telling you anything you don’t know in that. 😉
@@brendenvosper7772 was that full pelt Pete? 😅👍
@@MVDBR yes it was. It’s not the Honda of old. Wonder where they are really made? Made for a price.
Nerbs a good bloke helped me out with the high guard mount on my 1190, i have a few mates on the T7'S ,il be sure to send them this
Cheers 🙏
Mr Yamaha was a lot more kinder to riders in the old days compared to now, I’ve got a 93 Yamaha FJ 1200 sport tourer and doing a valve check on it is a piece of cake, pull the tank off remove the valve cover and you have full unobstructed access to check, or change shims with a minimum of fuss, even the carbs are in full view so you can hook gauges on for a tune and carb sync. Modern bikes might be superior in power and handling but are a pain in the arse when you have to pull them half apart to access anything.
Yeah I guess it gives dealers a license to print money when most people are too scared to work on them themselves 💩
At 10:10 You are right with cam positions which should be pointing out because this is TDC on Compression stroke. First I was quite confused with video of the other guy which show cams positioned not as manual say. As for the clearance on the lower limit I would re-shim it al least a bit on this moment but this is Your choice so please post what were the clearance after next service 👍
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I agree about re-shimming the ones at the limit. They are going to get quite tight for the next 40K kms.
WOWZERS... that is quite the job... you can see why dealerships charge so much to do these jobs.... makes me wish I still had my V85TT with the engine sideways and heads exposed for easy maintenance!
Yeah it's ridiculous mate, I guess all the ABS and shit makes it all the more crowded in there 💩
@@MVDBR yup... and a load of weight too
Tripple bond the gasket to the valve cover , easy install , sorted for ever more ! Was that paper record around the wrong way , intakes closed or exhaust tolerances ? Intake yeah , should have shimmed because you wont notice on a twin your cooking a valve. Good tips though was a good watch.
Not sure what ya mean there chief it all looked legit to me 🤔 Yeah probably should have taken em out to max tolerance but hopefully they've just seated in and won't move much more. And at least I know it's not that bad of a job for next time 😁 cheers
I would've left it till 80k then replace the timing chain, clutch pack. why don't you use iridium plugs there good for 40k
Long story on the plugs but basically I just happened to have those already, the ones I took out were iridium that had 30k on them (changed the stock ones out at 10k just because I was doing the spark plug mod on the bike) Anyway I know where I'm at now most of the shit is done at 40k 👍
In my opinion a garden hose is better for washing under the tank when you need to. I have used a pressure washer before and forced water into electrical connections and had a nightmare trying to start the bike and dry everything out. a garden hose won't do this.
Yeah very true you got to be careful with that pressure washer around a lot of parts on the bike. Cheers
For God sakes! that's a really hard job! considering on selling my T7 before it reach the 40 k mark and buying another one. Question: does the ticking noise in the engine desapears with the valve regulation or is it something from birth with the CP2 engine?
All the ones I've heard so far have had that same noise 😬
@MVDBR guess will have to live with that. Thanks for your answer!
At about 29000 miles my t7 is getting hard to start and I’m thinking time to adjust valves. Already replaced plugs awhile back. Thoughts?
Just cold starting is hard?
@@MVDBR yes and its been sitting in the garage all winter. battery charged up and good to go. road it a couple of times. We'll see if it continues to be hard starting on 1st start of the day. not super cold about 40f
@@TheFoxyt2 yeah I guess that's usually a sign of tight valves, but these things seem pretty solid. Unless ya dusted the engine at some point. Could be a number of other things too but yeah see how ya go
Thanks mate! Super helpful. It seems like this motor could go 200k miles. Oil changes are pretty clean. The only issue is the swmotech shifter is loose and it’s hard to tighten. Even bent Allen key to get in there. I think I’m on 5th set of tires I’d have to look at my spreadsheet
@@MVDBR Yes cold starting is a bit buggy. But I feel this motor could go 200,000 miles....hard miles. Its a 2021 and almost 30,000 miles...never been to a mechanic. I've done all the maint so far. LOVE this bike and yamaha. REALLY wish yam would make a 300 2s with estart and then I wouldn't need to own any ktms ;)
That looked way above my pay grade! 🤔
Haha yeah thought I'd bitten off more than I could chew mate but ended up alright 😁
Yike! the comments of people saying they will sell there T7 before it needs this service! what bike doesnt not need work?? 🤣
A brand new one 😅👍
Anyone no what it costs for Yamaha dealer to do it?
Nerb said someone told him they were quoted $2k 🙈
@@MVDBR bloody hell
At least it is only required every 40K km! Of course by the next time it is due you will have forgotten all the tricks :(
Ahh that's what the video is there for 😁
Man! What a huge pain in the a$$. Not looking forward to this. I definitely wouldn't trust a shop to do this work. Not to mention, it would likely cost over $1,000.
Yeah it's a bit of a mission 😬 they don't make it easy these days
i may me consider checking it at 80k maybe its a jape bike not ktm lol
Haha, sadly my WR450 needed re-shimming every time I checked the fkn thing but my KTM 500 valves never moved. Go figure...
I will trade it for a new at 35 k 😂
Or a pan america!
But then i got some other problems 😂😂
I was seriously considering getting rid of mine 😅 Don't get a fuckin Harley lol
Your handwriting is too messy and my screen wont zoom in enough. I think I should win by default hahaha. 10:29
Pfft that's easy to see! Lol it's actually 0.15 so answer D was correct (cause I couldn't remember and couldn't be bothered looking when I wrote the questions) 😅 But yeah you should win by default for going to the effort to look Ricko 😅👌
Does not look easy to me hahahaha 😂
Easier*, maybe 😅 Still a lot harder than a 701 no doubt 😬