Just to not cause confusion, this video is just a joke, I don't hate contemporary music, I just find it funny that some people think it sounds like this.
@@andrewtrovato1828 In their defense (even if I don't like their music), they NEVER liked the "new complexity" label on them, and Finnissy even alleges his music is inherently tonal. Don't blame the composers because you don't like them, blame the musicologists who do the terrible marketing.
Although this is music, compositions such as this always leave me with the impression that some composers feel they must write a piece that is ridiculously hard for a performer to play in order for it to be valid. Quite simply, anyone can write a piece such as this. It is extremely mechanical, and the process, although it takes time, is fairly easy to do. Composers of music such as this are probably focusing more on the sonorities of the piece or instrument played. I'm not knocking the style, per se, but, for example, it's too easy for a composer to simply blot out a page with notes and not be singularly expressive. There are too many "also rans" in this arena. Look at Jackson Pollocks' paintings - really look at them. Study what he did. It wasn't just a random splattering of paint. There are layers of color, each meant to signify an artistic point. Sure, anyone can splatter paint on a huge canvas, but would it appear original or would it be a Pollock knockoff ? Listen to Webern's pieces - he worked extraordinarily hard to ensure that his work was his and his alone.
it's a 30 sec excerpt from a 16 minute piece which covers a wide range of moods and textures. it really doesn't amount to anything at all unless you've got short a attention span!
@@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist I’ve been involved in music for a while now, and at this point I don’t think I can be convinced that there really is any genius at all in this type of composition. It demonstrates so little care for choice of notes and rhythms, even if it claims to have an internal logic. I’m not saying everything has to be 17th century style counterpoint, or even tonal at all, but this is the musical equivalent of speaking gibberish. If I were to show someone who had never heard this piece a recording of this, then another of actual random notes and rhythms, I think we would find most couldn’t tell the difference.
There is such a rich variety of beautiful contemporary music. This is in no way representative. I can only encourage you to give it an open-minded try.
Ok, I probably should have clarified this, but this video is just a joke, since most people do think this is what contemporary music is like, I don't mean that I hate it.
This is a thirty second excerpt from a single piece written in 1978 by a British composer who is currently 78 years old. It is in no way representative of what is going on in contemporary music today around the world. If you're uncurious about something leave it alone, and don't be so smug.
The funniest thing is, I recognise the piece. It's Finnissy's 4th Piano Concerto (I believe)
Edit: I am blind apparently
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That guy whos in the fake complexity movement?
@@andrewtrovato1828 wdym fake complexity
@@andrewtrovato1828 In their defense (even if I don't like their music), they NEVER liked the "new complexity" label on them, and Finnissy even alleges his music is inherently tonal. Don't blame the composers because you don't like them, blame the musicologists who do the terrible marketing.
Koskinen and Finissy could have been brothers.
Sonic clusters with a side of pointillism. Works for me! Must now listen to the complete #4. Finnissy is new to me.
Certified banger
More like certified banging
yeah goes hard
finnissy my beloved
finnissy my beloved
Turn it up !!
Although this is music, compositions such as this always leave me with the impression that some composers feel they must write a piece that is ridiculously hard for a performer to play in order for it to be valid. Quite simply, anyone can write a piece such as this. It is extremely mechanical, and the process, although it takes time, is fairly easy to do. Composers of music such as this are probably focusing more on the sonorities of the piece or instrument played. I'm not knocking the style, per se, but, for example, it's too easy for a composer to simply blot out a page with notes and not be singularly expressive. There are too many "also rans" in this arena. Look at Jackson Pollocks' paintings - really look at them. Study what he did. It wasn't just a random splattering of paint. There are layers of color, each meant to signify an artistic point. Sure, anyone can splatter paint on a huge canvas, but would it appear original or would it be a Pollock knockoff ? Listen to Webern's pieces - he worked extraordinarily hard to ensure that his work was his and his alone.
I've heard people saying before today that it's a chimpanzee bashing the piano randomly.
truly an alternative technique of all time
Like splattering paint on a canvas, but for notes. Truly the appogy of art.
I think it should be called. “The Emperors New Clothes”….
The fact that this was an actual song
it's a 30 sec excerpt from a 16 minute piece which covers a wide range of moods and textures. it really doesn't amount to anything at all unless you've got short a attention span!
@@MorganHayes_Composer.PianistThe whole piece is just as bad as this.
@@landrypierce9942 I beg to differ , I've heard it about 3 times live. It's very exciting.
@@MorganHayes_Composer.Pianist I’ve been involved in music for a while now, and at this point I don’t think I can be convinced that there really is any genius at all in this type of composition. It demonstrates so little care for choice of notes and rhythms, even if it claims to have an internal logic.
I’m not saying everything has to be 17th century style counterpoint, or even tonal at all, but this is the musical equivalent of speaking gibberish. If I were to show someone who had never heard this piece a recording of this, then another of actual random notes and rhythms, I think we would find most couldn’t tell the difference.
@@landrypierce9942 this boils down to one thing : differing responses to the same piece of music.
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i don't get what's the problem here? the cat is a fine enough pianist to me
There is such a rich variety of beautiful contemporary music. This is in no way representative. I can only encourage you to give it an open-minded try.
Ok, I probably should have clarified this, but this video is just a joke, since most people do think this is what contemporary music is like, I don't mean that I hate it.
This is a thirty second excerpt from a single piece written in 1978 by a British composer who is currently 78 years old. It is in no way representative of what is going on in contemporary music today around the world. If you're uncurious about something leave it alone, and don't be so smug.
This. Thank you.
Ian Paice is currently 75 years old, not 78, and this piece was, from what I can tell, actually written in 2013
@@ARandomHumanBein Ian Pace is the performer, the composer is Michael Finnissy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Michael_Finnissy composed in 1978 and revised in 1996.
@@msndl227 Interesting, I didn't know that