Really well-researched and entertainingly presented story about one of my favorite films that I worked on at Disney! I can say, that, "yes, for the most part, this all happened as told"! On a personal note, without this film, I would not have had the pleasure and honor of creating the character Kronk! For that, I will be forever grateful to Mark Dindal and Randy Fullmer. Thanks for a great show everyone!
You were the supervising animator on Kronk?! Incredible! I'd love to pick your brain about all of this. Would you be interesting in chatting with us? And thanks for the kind words!
I feel like New Groove was the Disney movie from an alternative timeline, from a universe where Disney (and animation in general) didn't have these incredibly dominant "studio brand image" expectations. This movie doesn't necessarily fit into the established Disney pantheon... but maybe it could have? That is, maybe we can imagine a world where Disney is smaller, maybe sees itself as a promoter of traditional animation, has more creative freedom, and helps realize unique, quirky, witty, and off-beat animation projects like this one. So the point is, this is the film that I most want to hear from those who worked on it. Thanks for posting! Every so often there's a tiny little ghost who speaks up in my heart, "maybe you could help make such a fun thing come into being!" Sounds like an amazing experience.
I legit think ENG is one of the funniest and most unique animated films of all time, especially how it disregarded the formula that Disney established for so long. Always enjoyed its sense of cartoonish anarchy. Really deserving of its cult status.
@@adyenlichtwachter6684 when our family first got Disney+, me and my brother watched it one night and laughed hard as if it was the first time we had seen it. Definitely holds up after so long.
🎶 He's the sovereign lord of the nation He's the hippest cat in creation He's the alpha, the omega, a to z And this perfect world will spin Around his every little whim 'Cause this perfect world begins and ends with him What's his name? Kuzco Kuzco! Kuuuzcooooo!!!🎶
As a screenwriter and director, I felt Roger Allers pain when they completely changed his vision. It's painful when your vision is compromised but at the same time, I get why Disney changed it. At least we got "Pull the lever Kronk." "WRONG LEVER!!!"
I remember going to the movie theatre with 0 expectations. In fact , they where dragging me to see it. I left the room still laughing and re acting scenes, I couldn't believe Disney had made a really funny movie. Still at this day, all jokes still hit their mark. Comedy speaking, this movie is true gold.
Yzma is my favorite villain so far! But I have to say it was thanks to the Spanish dubbing! Mayra Rojas did a great job there! This is one of the few movies I prefer to watch in Spanish.
I remember watching it in the theater when I was like 8 or 9 and my mom was laughing just as much as I was, we both thought it was one of the funniest things we've ever seen.
18:09-Facts: Mark Dindal would eventually go on to direct Chicken Little in 2005, Walt Disney Feature Animation’s first computer-animated feature as he re-teamed with producer Randy Fullmer. Roger Allers would leave the studio to direct Open Season, Sony Pictures Animations first feature, After retiring from Disney, Randy Fullmer founded his own company designing and building custom bass guitars and would appear in the 2014 documentary about his life, Restrung.
@@johnpeters7073 Another fact:After producing titles such as Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King, Don Hahn went on to become an executive producer of the Disneynature series and a documentary director. The films he’s directed include 2009’s Waking Sleeping Beauty, about the Disney Renaissance, and 2018’s Howard, about songwriter Howard Ashman.
The rewatchability of this movie is such a good point! There was an Ice Cream shop near my house growing up that religiously played ENG on the tv, everyday. It was amazing because every time we'd go in there it would still be on, but at a different scene than the last time we were in there and it never failed to make us laugh every time even disjointed and out of context
“Allers couldn’t bear to do it” 🥺 actually crying over this. This was his BABY and he knew there was nothing he could do about it. That said the result was incredible
It's so sad to see an artist love something so much and to see him lose it. It reminds me of Richard Williams and his decades' labor of love working on The Thief and the Cobbler, only to have it cut up and dubbed over by Disney subsidiary Miramax. Absolutely heartbreaking. :(
Eventually the movie has to be finished. He was never gonna finish the movie. At some point the producer/studio has to step in so youre not wasting tons of money and time
"Disney didn't know how to market the film." Oh they knew. They had just given up on 2D animation before the movie even came out. Both Eisner and Katzenberg had gone all in on live action and 3D animation. Which they cannibalized all their 2D films. I mean, they didn't even give the 2D films a chance. Giving them 5-10x less marketing. The low box office numbers is because of a lack of studio support. When they put more marketing behind movies like Antz and Bug's Life over Prince of Egypt and Lilo and Stitch...yeah. The fix was in.
I love this movie! It's so frustrating to see anytime Disney doesn't believe in a project they therefore decide not to do the proper work to market it like with this movie and for example Treasure Planet.
This is why it's frustrating when people say 2D American movies are dead because viewers lost interest. No, it's because the studios kept mishandling their films and animators because "CGI is the hot thing!!!" One of the reasons anime has become so popular is because it's able to scratch that 2D itch that most western animation hasn't been able to do in a long time. It looks like we're finding creative ways to incorporate traditional with CG in recent movies tho (Spiderverse and Bad Guys) and maybe that's how 2D movies will eventually make their comeback.
@@PollenEye Anime also fills multiple genre and demographic holes Hollywood gave up on. It's not just that anime is unique and foreign. But anime is producing shows with themes and tone like Hollywood used to in the 1980s and 1990s. You can find an anime that's similar to Batman: TAS or X-Men or Garfield. But you can't find any modern Hollywood shows that do that.
@@maxis2k That too. For the longest time, most cartoons were allowed to either be family friendly adventures or crude adult comedies. Anime studios always respected animation as a medium, not a genre. That's thankfully changing as well, at least for animated series...film is still kinda stuck in that gap. I've been pretty pleased with the different cartoons on streaming such as Netflix and Amazon. Hell, Primal is probably one of my favorite cartoons of all time now. The variety makes me happy.
My friends and I used to watch The Emperor's New Groove every time we went to their house (which was often), almost to the point to where we could quote the whole thing from memory! No matter what it could've been, The Emperor's New Groove will forever hold a place in my heart as a fun, zanny, nostalgia film
@@kevinlee7678 Sure. Do you know another lovable semi-villain who ends up teaching classes of Squirrel Language (including to the villain)? Didn't think so.
I still remember as a kid when Kronk had his own theme music and pressed against the wall, I died laughing. It is one of the funniest scenes I have ever seen in a movie. Still gets me as an adult.
New Groove is comedic genius. From the voice acting to the animation, to the jokes, to the story-telling style- it really came together. Even though it was a long, hard road, they managed to swing a perfect final product. That never happens. The quotes in this movie are etched in gold. Props to Eartha Kitt for being hilarious and rolling with such witty humor.
I wanted that too. But I grew up in the 1980’s when they would regularly re-release movies into the theatres. It was nice to see 101 Dalmatian’s, Bambi, Fantasia, The Jungle Book and others on a big screen. They stopped doing this around 1992, after Beauty and the Beast was such a hit. I wish I lived in an area where old films were always released on big screens. Only saw Raiders of the Lost Arc on big screen……..
Ha! I DID become an animator at Disney from Little Mermaid to Hercules. It started great and eventually broke my heart. Luckily I escaped to Warners to do Iron Giant, but after that my animation career fell apart.
@@scarecrowjones1 Im a college senior majoring in animation and I say don’t quit, just look for better companies or other avenues that animation can be applied. For instance I’m going into the marketing aspect of animation/modeling. I also have friends going into game design. You can even get jobs at news stations (if you like fast past environments). The animation career can span across platforms, don’t give up cause Disney sucks.
This adds a new layer of bittersweet nostalgia to one of my favorite movies. While I'll always love the slapstick and quotable one-liners of Emperor's New Groove, I'm now also saddened by an earnest and culturally appreciative movie musical being squeezed out by Hollywood/corporate deadlines. It stings a little harder as a person of Peruvian heritage, which, don't get me wrong, I do still love the in back-drop only display of Incan culture in what we got, but man, what could've been is also now also on my mind. Great presentation, your use of the film's score and scenes to hit emotional beats worked really well.
Us peruvian kids never really cared for “authenticity” but we always remembered this movie for its comedy. To this day Its still one of ny favorite disney movies
Love Emperor's New Groove, but it really is an honest shame that Aller’s Kingdom of the Sun got axed. It would have been so cool to see Incan mythology get some colorfully animated screen time. Makes me wonder what could have been produced if Eisner had granted the request for a 6 month refocus.
@@Anon-qp3kt I mean a lot of pitches are like that. Some of the best movies we've gotten have been from disjointed ideas being edited together into a proper film. I know the animation process is more set in stone but I really liked the grand ideas from Kingdom. It's a shame, maybe we'll get it someday considering all the Disney+ content being produced. Luckily we did get Emperor's New Groove. Such a funny and nostalgic film for me, alongside Lilo and Stitch. At least we got a zanny ADHD driven comedy fest!
@@Anon-qp3kt honestly Roger Allers was unhappy as Mark Dindal was. Dindal of course was apparently unhappy during production of The Emperors New Groove and Chicken Little.
You know say what you will about the lack of deep culture but I feel that the emperors new groove wasn’t “just” comedy. It still had a lot of heart and I still nearly cry at certain scenes! It offered a lot of strong messages for kids about kindness and selflessness.
quite a... well a miracle, really, that this turned out to be a movie that exists, let alone the hilarious classic that it is. sucks that the original vision was axed, and the crunch that ensued afterward, but ey they made their money back with dvd sales and i love the film lol
@@adyenlichtwachter6684 The loss of Eartha Kitt would sadly make that feel hollow, even if they went all out with the complexity and the drama and the bombast and the philosophy, honoring the original vision. It would be like trying to do a Return of the Jedi remake where Darth Vader is voiced by just, some guy. You’re missing the soul that the one-of-a-kind voice brought to it.
@@adyenlichtwachter6684 imo the fact that we got Road to El Dorado out of the fiasco makes up for it. Another one of my absolute favorite movies of my childhood.
I think it differs enough from the original concept that they could actually remake the original concept... I wouldn't trust modern Disney to pull it off but who knows what shifts might happen in upcoming decades.
It still shocks me just how much marketing impacts audience response to films. I’ve never met someone who didn’t like The Emperor’s New Groove, although I’m sure people like that exist, too. So to hear it bombed when it came out… it’s kind of appalling. It’s unfortunate that no one realized the appeal of this film. I say those who said it didn’t have enough story didn’t know what they were looking at and those who said it was too chaotic didn’t realize that sometimes, chaos breeds creative genius. My friends and I think this film has a great heartfelt story at the core and that that chaos was necessary for that story… We loved it when it came out when we were all kids and we still love it. Some of us are now sharing it with our own kids!
as a tween I remember seeing the famous waterfall sequence from promos and knew I had to see the movie. it did *not* disappoint. but growing up the whole 90s on every new disney release, I knew the movie felt different while sitting and watching it but I was loving it and quoting it remained in the family for a long time. sad to hear it was a flop at the time. I didn't remember it was released around the time of the grinch live action which I also saw in theaters, that's wild. time is such a blur. lol
I can tell you why it failed. Because by the time it came out, the "average" movie goer, if there can be said to be such a thing, was done with Disney animation. There wasn't any anticipation over their projects anymore. Years later, when I heard New Grove was actually good, I was shocked, gave it a try, and was pleasantly surprised. Thats the sad thing about media like this.. A company sets itself up for failure, then blames the people given an impossible task for said failure, when the truth is, the workers did a great job. It was the corporation to blame.
Emperors New Groove was literally one of my favorite movies as a kid. I distinctly remember my dad laughing his ass off when he would watch it with us.
As much as I love and enjoy Emperors New Groove, I would have loved to see them pull off Kingdom of the Sun. It sounded like it could have been really fantastic.
Probably never going to happen but with Disney Plus's new thing about streaming episodic series, I really wish they give Kingdom of the Sun another go.
It sounded super convoluted and too dramatic. Returning the sun that stole an evil queen’s youth and the guy turned into a llama was mute?? That limits so many jokes
Still think Kingdom of the Sun could very well turn into a Broadway Musical… I have read the whole story and context that was given in a pamphlet distributed when the first screening happened, and it was amazing…. Also still funny how it bombed but it still got a whole TV show and direct to DVD sequel that didn’t suck…
That's kinda what happens when the animation department doesn't have much work to do thanks to the increased interest in 3d animated films and no budgets. Direct to DVD sequels...
I almost forgot about the TV show, I was rewatching it on Disney Life but it didn't make it to Disney Plus when that launched. I actually might've seen the show before either film and I love all three! I'm honestly shocked to hear it flopped, it's definitely a classic!
It's sad to know they tripped on the finish line due to bad marketing. They set Emperor's New Groove against *How The Grinch Stole Christmas* . Who in their right minds thought it would be a good idea to put an experimental new story to compete for attention with one of the most iconic christmas tales out there?
I mean maybe in the US, IDK anyone in Europe who even knows who Dr Seuss is. Heck most here have only ever seen the Grinch in the background of the HomeAlone movies.
@@drdewott9154 It might not have as much strength in Europe, but it's still become popular enough that it is brought back every christmas season. Here in Brazil the animation and live-action of the Grinch is aired on TV every year, and now it's the Illumination version that's the latest pick. It's as iconic as A Christmas Carol which has been source of dozens of movie versions.
@@IMayOrMayHaveNot Not here though, like here in Europe, especially around my neck of the woods in Scandinavia, the American household names of the season aren't very popular. We don't have no Grinch or Peanuts Christmas special for christmas. We have HomeAlone but that's the only real major one that's popular in both the Americas and Europe. Heck we have stuff thats really popular here which has faded out of fashion in the US, like the Disney's "From All of us to All of you" which airs here every year on christmas eve across the Nordics.
In high school I used to show this movie religiously to different people. I remember having little screenings when my parents would go away. Such a great movie, and ahead of its time
When it comes down to it, it still is my favorite Disney movie. It's one that I could watch on repeat and never get tired of. The jokes were timeless and just the overall flow along with 4th wall breaking just made it mad fun. Sure, it doesn't have the weight like many other Disney movies but I think that's what made it special. It was just a buddy adventure with at least something learned at the end.
There were several films released at this point in Disney's history that the audience just wasn't prepared for, or for which Disney had pulled the marketing budget for, thus causing them to flop: The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis the Lost Empire, and Treasure Planet. And all three of them are favorites of mine, right up there alongside Mulan and Hercules. The Emperor's New Groove was the comedic relief to the darker, more serious undercurrents of Atlantis the Lost Empire and Treasure Planet. They are all fantastic and criminally underrated films and I end up recommending them to anyone who hasn't seen them. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
Those three were my favorite too. Also the Road to El Dorado, Sinbad, and Lilo and Stitch were okay too but not nearly as good as those three. Sword in the Stone was cool. 💁🏻♂️
@@WonderlustThing The Road to El Dorado and Sinbad, while both excellent films, are not Disney films. They were both Dreamworks animated films. Lilo and Stitch is about on par in my opinion. It's a lovely film and always gets me choked up because they both wanted to feel loved and have a happy family and then they found each other, overcame adversity and mixed feelings, and everyone became one big happy family. Because Ohana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten.
Reminds me of when I found out the animated movie Anastasia wasn't Disney! Instead, it was created to compete against The Little Mermaid at the time. Doesn't matter anymore cuz Disney owns it now. Still a fantastic animated movie, if you haven't seen it!
I hope that someday Disney will get their shit together and make the kingdom of the sun. It sounds sad to leave such an awesome project collecting dust in the archive
I can just imagine what Pixar can do with such an idea. Disney brought us 'Encanto', but in the hands of Pixar 'Kingdom of the Sun' can be the film where Pixar proves they're still showing Disney how it's done.
it’s crazy how disney keeps on ruining animators creatives process, due to money and time frames (which are valid, reorganizing and pushing stuff back and really hender the company) but it doesn’t help when you are a ANIMATION COMPANY and you get your money from making good films. i love this movie because this movie (and the road to el dorado) was the only movie that had any peruvian/bolivian representation!! it’s sad that the original director was going for that and disney just threw that all away. the incan culture has soo many fables and such great tails. i’m surprised disney nor pixar haven’t jumped on it yet! such great tales and stories could be told! definitely would’ve loved more peruvian/bolivian tunes in the movie. (not complaining tho sting was not it)
Give it time. Disney is on a latinoxploitation streak so they can tap into that brown market and make millions of pesos (five dollars). Eventually we'll get a movie about the magical adventures of a talking ball of Chipá who rides his llama in order to find the mythical lost bootleg streetwear market in the mountains alongside his coke selling communist midget sidekick
Road to El Dorado never had Bolivians appearing on-screen. What the animators decided to show was a mashup of several Mesoamerican civilizations with a dominant Mayan background.
Both Disney and Pixar aren’t going to jump on either Central American tales or African tales anytime soon, because unless a POC is directing it it will immediately be shot down as racist. Which saddens me.
Yeah I'm getting annoyed with Disney just redoing the same stories but race/gender swapping. There are tons of cultures with awesome myths and stories, why do we need to keep redoing the same European stories?
This movie came out when I was a very young adult. I remember dreading to watch another Disney cartoon when a friend's girlfriend rented this from Blockbuster. We belly laughed through the whole thing and its still one of my favorites to this day. It is just so different and irreverent and the casting is brilliant.
More documentaries like The Sweatbox need to be made. It gives those not in the industry an excellent peak into the inner workings of big budget animation.
The entire diner scene in TENG is a giant in joke to the movies production history. The chef is Roger Allers trying to bring his vision to life but under pressure from others finally quiets out of frustration. Pacha is the animators excited to see the vision brought to life. Kuzco is the Disney executives disappointed with production and badgering Allers to do better. Yzma is Michael Eisner question why their is such a heavy theme on Inca mythology Kronk is Mark Dindal trying to suggest more comedy but ultimately causes Allers to quit.
And the timing of the entire scene is one of the best comedy bits I've ever seen in a movie, possibly highlighting (intentionally or not) that what we got from the ashes was better than what had come before.
@@ItWasAShtShow Executives: Look all I'm saying is that this movie looks iffy and im not the only one who thinks that so im just making sure you take this movie up a notch. Michael Eisner: Is there anything in this movie that is not swimming in Inca myth? Mark Dindal: Hang on I'll go ask Roger. Executives: Its a simple question will or will not this movie be ready for summer 2000 Roger Allers: (Grunts) Executives: Hey I didn't ask him about musical numbers yet! Dindal: Hey Roger what's your policy on this movie having more comedy? Roger Allers: Alright Dindal, you want this to be a comedy, than you make it, I QUIT! Dindal: Wait what? Allers: You know I try and I try, theirs just no respect for anyone with vision, that's it theirs nothing I can do about it!
the thing is the emperors new groove was probably one of the funniest disney animated flims made druing the animated renosense. and heck the jokes if anything still hold up today and feel timeless like honestly i think it may be a movie that was ahead of its time.
As interesting as Kingdom of the Sun sounds, I do believe they made the right decision in the end. The movie seems to be sugar coated a little bit with what might have been almost every time it's talked about. In reality, when really looking at it, it was a mess of story lines that didn't have enough to do with each other. Pacha and Manko wouldn't have much anything to do with each other after the beginning, Manko and his love interest not only wouldn't have been able to go much of anywhere as long as he was a llama, but also would have been almost completely disconnected from the rest of the film. Manco and Pacha would somehow have to get together again at some point and figure out how to turn him back which is another thing to juggle. Yzma, as much as I love the song, had no clear goal. She wanted to be young again but also wanted to raise a demon to destroy the sun, which is fine as long as they connect to each other but it seems they never really did. And finally, you would have to have Pacha connect to Yzma in some important way to drive the plot to the point of him lassoing the demon, not to mention his love interest and how she would fit into all of this. There's just too much and not enough time. There are 6 plot lines here: Pacha and Manco with the llama thing, Manco's love story, Pacha being the emperor, Pachas love story, Yzma wanting to reclaim her youth and beauty, and Yzma wanting to raise the dead and destroy the sun. There's just not enough to connect all these plots and keep the movie consistent. To make this work, I believe some serious stuff would need to change. Yzma would have to have her only purpose be revenge on the sun even though it wouldn't bring her youth back. Manco's love story just needs to be scrapped and replaced with him being in the palace to see how things run better without him (or something similar to improve him as a person) and to learn about Yzma's plans. He would need to try to warn Pacha about it which would mean needing to be human again. If we had Pacha figure out the llama was Manco they could figure out how to change him back and then Manco (now being able to speak again) could warn about Yzma. Pacha would then have to prepare to fight Yzma and lasso the demon and so on and so forth. Pacha's love story might still be able to fit but it would take a lot to make it work. This is just an idea and it might still be too much for one film, comment any other versions you think might work better. As long as Yzma gets her song back, I'm happy.
I'd like to see the original cuts. It's kind of fascinating how it all came together, because it ends up being one of my most favorite Disney movies of all time, but it was obviously such a cluster funk trying to get it together.
technically christina aguilera hadn't put out her first record when she signed up for mulan. she was no star recruit, but a promising talent on the rise.
It’s funny, it lacks irrelevant romance, and still manages to be a pretty heart warming story that brings a lot of laughs Its box office failure really goes to show how important advertising is when it comes to media.
The same happened with "Bicentennial Man", starring Robin Williams: The film was advertised as a comedy, but ended up being a heartwarming tale about love, life, existence, recognition of being.
It was the first time I've ever laughed so much watching a movie in theatres, massive props to the Latin American dub for retaining Yzma's voice and comedic timing perfectly.
Allers had a good plot going for him. *For a show* To try to condense something with substance with THAT many moving parts would not fit in a 2.5 hour timeframe XD I feel bad for him cause he seemed like he really wanted to honor the Incan culture and legends.
I feel like when things are actual hell to make they either come out horrible or amazing and no in between, and the amazing ones always come out at a bad time. There’s a band that I listen to, and all of their members were in really dark periods in their lives when making their second album, nowadays most fans consider it their best album but it dropped only 2 weeks before the 9/11 attacks, so you can imagine it wasn’t exactly on peoples minds. This is my personal favorite animated film out there, love the video! It deserves way more views
One of my favorite movies of all time. Entirely quotable and endlessly watchable. The cast is gold; not a single weak link in the group, from the Diner's waitress to Kuzco. It's Brilliant.
I'll always love Emperor's New Groove. I loved it as a kid, I love it as an adult. And yet part of me will always wonder how things would have turned out if Kingdom of the Sun became what it was meant to be. I can see the effort and heart put into it, so...I kinda want to see that timeline. It's a mental paradox of loving what you got, but wanting to see how it could have been.
wow, i really love whenever someone talks about kingdom of the sun!!! my storyboard teacher was a layout artist for the film from start to finish, and he always tells stories about the production!!! he always talks about kingdom of the sun with great love, and tells about how much more adult and beautiful the story was. he once said that the title was kind of an inside joke between the artists, because the executives were always changing their minds and making new changes!! it's such a shame how now we only get to see some of the sketches and hear about the story from the people who were there at the time, and not the actual movie... great video, btw!!
ENG is one of those low-key perfect comedies, right up there with "Galaxy Quest" and "Princess Bride." For better or worse, all the pieces just clicked right into place and my childhood is forever grateful. Side note but it would be kinda cool if Disney decided to have another go at "Emperor of the Sun." Imagine marketing it as "The reason Emperor's New Grove is a movie."
This is great. Bravo. I don't know how ENG is a shame though. Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, and that film about cows, those were disappointments. ENG is genuinely funny and it's not surprising it became a cult classic. Even if it didn't make a ton of money, people were still willing to go watch the next disney movie that came out. After the first of the Chicken Little set, I stopped going until Tangled came out.
It sounds the original production of this movie needed that Katzenberg determination to get it done. Too many people with too many different ideas on what the movie should be, and no one to step up and say “No. Here is what the movie is going to be about. That’s it”
They made a documentary about this called the sweatbox and it really exposed Disney executives and that’s why they banned it This movie got a terrible treatment for when it could be I really hope they remake this into the kingdom of the sun or somebody else picks us up this could be one of the greatest movies of all time
Somehow this demonstrates how important, and messy the process can be. This movie is a masterpiece, I love it to this day. Absolutely brilliant. Money does not reflect the happiness this story brings.
This movie was BIG over here in Argentina, like EVERYONE knew about it haha, and I know other countries from latinoamerica had an even bigger love for this movie (called Las locuras del emperador over here). I still remember they used to constantly play it on tv up until the beginning of the 2010s, when they stopped playing 2d movies or shows and instead showed mostly sitcoms. I’m surprised to know that it only became popular on other continents in the last few years, seeing that it was very well known over here, but ey I’m glad it happened. This movie deserves all love and glory!
Wild to hear that Hercules flopped because that movie SLAPS. Making LionKing a musical was the right choice. And emperors new groove wasn’t a bad movie.
I'm a 35 year old man and I still make my wife watch this with me twice a year. She worked for Disney and when she took me there for the first time we wore matching homemade shirts that said "PULL THE LEVER" on the front and "WRONG LEVER" on the back, the employees all stopped us and gushed over it.
The Emperor's New Groove was my childhood jam, and still is great in its own way. The story, the comedy and of course the 4th wall breaks are goldmines.
I was seven or eight years old when this came out and throughout the years, when I want to watch a movie that came out in my childhood, this is it. It's my favourite And I really do think the humour is so concurrent with our generation
I honestly think that Disney not investing into the promotion of the movie damned it to bomb. People loved the movie back then, test screenings for the final version of the movie were apparently great! If Disney had promoted it more, and better, maybe ENG would've not bombed. That, and the fact that it released at a _very_ bad time for its success. Going against Jim Carrey is basically suicide. (moviecide?)
Disney does that a lot - Atlantis, Treasure Planet? Great movies that are all underrated because Disney wasn't interested in them. They boycotted the whole thing themselves with bad advertisements and a lack of merchandise. Those movies had the potential to keep Disney on top. And they could have worked with "The sunrise kingdom" if they had committed to it. The same goes for Frozen and the sequel, where they focus again on what makes the money instead of making a culturally appropriate movie. While the results are not bad, they could have been better - and while the emperors groove is fun, I would have loved to see the original movie
@@z2yn Oh yes, the tragic tale of how they sabotaged Treasure Planet so much that the sequel never got further than the drafts. I'm still glad that Atlantis at least got its sequel and proper conclusion, even if it was downscaled from a full series to one of these weird disney compilation-movies.
@@lpfan4491 Wait, what? I've never heard of that, but considering Disney, wouldn't be surprised. Where can I find more about what they did with Treasure Planet?
In my personal opinion, this was a case where the executives intervening to stop the director was actually FOR THE BETTER! Once Mark Dindal took over, they were relatively hands off and he basically got to do what he wanted so long as he met the deadline.
The night I saw Emperors New Groove in the theatre has become an indelible memory for me. It’s a long story, but the short version was that I was at the mall with friends in college. We wanted to go see a movie since the good theatre was at the mall. The majority voted for ENG, I reluctantly went with them with the thought, ugh another Disney movie, with princesses and singing like the movies my little sister liked. I came out a fan. It’s easily number one in my top ten animated films. And it has remained there for 20 plus years.
I remember seeing the Emperors New Groove in theaters!!!! I didn’t know what to expect and walked out knowing it was one of the best movies I’d seen in a long time!! Such a classic
Mark Dindal has made 2 absolute cult classics. Cats Don't Dance and Emperor. And both in classic 2D animation that has more stretch and squeeze than any 3D animation can ever do. Give him another film someone!
I SO badly want to see that original cut. Speaking as someone who absolutely loves EMG, btw. Who isn't a fan of large-scale epic with deep emotion like that... I wish both could have been made :( Great video!
I adore The Emperor's New Groove. It is my favorite movie of all time. But the more I learn and think about the production of the movie, the more I realize how crappy it really was. I hope Disney decides to make The Kingdom of the Sun instead of remaking this masterpiece.
Perhaps the production was a Sh*t Show, but that shouldn’t take away your enjoyment of it. It’s very much it’s own thing. Much like KotS would have been. Believe me, of the films we’ve covered on this channel, at least there wasn’t a major death or a ruthless backstabbing during its making. It was entirely just a creative change.
@0:54 Is that a young Tim Burton? He used to sleep at his art desk but trained himself to sleep upright with the pencil in his hand. Whenever anyone came in he'd snap back awake and try to look like he had been working.
This movie's comedic focus helped it, I think it perfectly compliments the sentimental aspects and I honestly see it as one of Disney's most raw and emotionally honest movies
Emperor's New Groove is a fun film. The Road to El Dorado is the combination of comedy and epic story that it sounds like they originally wanted. It's a real shame The Road to El Dorado sequels never happened.
I love that the writers goofed off during writing sessions, I'm sure they NEEDED to do that in order to discover some of the absolutely hysterical bits in the movie. Kronk doing the cricket sound against the wall, I just sit here and die laughing as I imagine the writers coming up with that sequence.
I'm SO glad I found this. Despite never watching the full movie... I know I know I WILL I PROMISE, Having wanting to make cartoons as a kid I have ALWAYS sought out the behind the scenes making of type stuff of my favorite cartoons (still seeking out 80s90s Alvin & the chipmunks stuff lol) i had no idea this even existed. I gotta go find sweatbox asap after peeping more from your channel!
BOOOOOM, baby! These folks made an absolute classic. Movies that go through this sort of a ridiculous creative process seem to resonate because effort and necessity translate well to dialogue and drama.
I was a child when this movie came out. My aunt got it on VHS and I watched it once and instantly fell in love. This movie stayed in the VHS to the point I would rewind it constantly spending days just watching the movie over and over again. Even as an adult this movie makes me laugh harder it is forever one of my favorite movies of all time.
I'm peruvian and I absolutely love ENG since (for me at least) it's just a gringo story with an inca mask , it didn't felt like cultural appropriation since they weren't even trying lmao and I specially love the spanish dub
emperor's new groove is absolutely amazing, i love the casting, animation, everything. sad to see this was one of the last 2D animated films in the disney franchise.
As someone who grew up watching Conan O'Brien every night, it makes sense that I've always loved the humor in this movie even when it came out after I was a kid. Knowing a writer from Conan came over and, like Late Night, pushed the envelope with absurdity and gags, it's no wonder. Great video!
This film will always be one of my all time favourites, I could watch it a million times and never get bored. Though we'll never truly know what the original could have been, I'm glad at least, "Snuff Out the Light", one of Sting's un-used songs for the original version is available to listen to and isn't buried forever. Would've been so cool if Yzma got her villain song
This was probably my favorite movie when I was a child. We wore down the dvd. My sisters and I knew the entire movie line by line. We'd be in a much different world if it had been marketed differently
TENG was the first animated movie to mix dumb-but-witty jokes and verbal, quick-twist in the end humour, to mainstream audiences. Something that Disney haven't done before. All of it CROWNED IN GOLD by David Spade's performance and Eartha Kitt's (MSRIP) bewitching charm. ...a, and Kronk. TENG pretty much SET, the animated TV and Movie comedy style as we know it today.
I'm actually glad this happened. In an age where, to be frank, the overblown musicals were starting to get stale, if _KotS_ had gone forward as intended, I feel it probably would've just ended up getting lost in the shuffle and ultimately been forgotten. _ENG,_ on the other hand, was a much-welcome breath of fresh air, and it turned into one of the most memorable Disney animated films of the modern era precisely because of how un-Disney it is. It felt more like a feature-length Looney Tune than a Disney film, and I mean that in the best possible way. To this day, _ENG_ is still my favorite non-Pixar Disney animated film of all time by a _massive_ margin. The only other one that even comes close is Wreck-It Ralph, and even that's a long way off.
@@joshuagonzalez4183 Musicals make sense for Fairytales and Hunch Back, but it's hard to take it seriously in other stories. We're the song's in Tarzan really necessary???????
@@orangeslash1667 the thing about Tarzan and why the songs don't work as well there is they just _feel_ like background songs. They're nice songs on their own, but how much more powerful would "You'll Be In My Heart" be if this was sung by Tarzan's mother than the disembodied voice of Phil Collins? Or if Tarzan himself sang "Strangers Like Me" as he finds out there were others who were like himself. Paradoxically, as stale as the Disney musical format had become at that time, I think that film would have been stronger by actually going that route than this weird in-between idea they went with.
@@KariIzumi1 The director of the film Kevin Lima said( I didn't want Tarzan to sing, I couldn't imagine this half naked man singing. I thought it be too ridiculous )Now to be fair Tarzan can't speak English very well. So how about have the actors sing without the characters singing out loud. A good example is ( Something There) from Beauty and the Beast.
First time in a long time I’ve watched a TH-cam channel that actually deserved a thumbs up… this video was fantastically produced.. please excuse me while I go binge everything else you’ve done
Ever since the very start I've wanted nothing more from Disney than for them to finally make Empire of the Sun a reality. My favourite film from childhood is The Prince of Egypt, and I feel like Empire of the Sun would have be a fantastic response from Disney as a more serious drama brought to life in a culture vastly different from that of Europe and America. Sadly, I don't believe that the Disney we have today can create a film that would live up to what the original idea for the film would have been, but I still hope I get to see it one day.
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Really well-researched and entertainingly presented story about one of my favorite films that I worked on at Disney! I can say, that, "yes, for the most part, this all happened as told"! On a personal note, without this film, I would not have had the pleasure and honor of creating the character Kronk! For that, I will be forever grateful to Mark Dindal and Randy Fullmer. Thanks for a great show everyone!
You were the supervising animator on Kronk?! Incredible! I'd love to pick your brain about all of this. Would you be interesting in chatting with us?
And thanks for the kind words!
I feel like New Groove was the Disney movie from an alternative timeline, from a universe where Disney (and animation in general) didn't have these incredibly dominant "studio brand image" expectations. This movie doesn't necessarily fit into the established Disney pantheon... but maybe it could have?
That is, maybe we can imagine a world where Disney is smaller, maybe sees itself as a promoter of traditional animation, has more creative freedom, and helps realize unique, quirky, witty, and off-beat animation projects like this one.
So the point is, this is the film that I most want to hear from those who worked on it. Thanks for posting! Every so often there's a tiny little ghost who speaks up in my heart, "maybe you could help make such a fun thing come into being!" Sounds like an amazing experience.
@@jergarmar I think Lilo & Stitch is from a similar mould.
Kronk really was best part of the movie! I loved how funny this Disney movie was regardless how it was received at box office.
Obsessed with this film since I was 6. Truly a stroke of genius. Thank you for your work!
I legit think ENG is one of the funniest and most unique animated films of all time, especially how it disregarded the formula that Disney established for so long. Always enjoyed its sense of cartoonish anarchy. Really deserving of its cult status.
It was Shrek even before Shrek. Felt more like a Warner Bros. property honestly.
@@alexgomez6723 no no he's got a point.
you blew my mind
When I watched it I realized it was the first time I've laughed SO HARD in public. It was THAT good. To me, it's the first meme film in history.
@@adyenlichtwachter6684 when our family first got Disney+, me and my brother watched it one night and laughed hard as if it was the first time we had seen it. Definitely holds up after so long.
did you seriously call this movie ENG?
This is my favorite Disney animated movie BECAUSE it's so different. No mid-scene musical breaks, no whiny romance, but tons of comedic gold.
Yeah , only a *metric ton* of annoying voice overs of the emperor
🎶 He's the sovereign lord of the nation
He's the hippest cat in creation
He's the alpha, the omega, a to z
And this perfect world will spin
Around his every little whim
'Cause this perfect world begins and ends with him
What's his name?
Kuzco
Kuzco!
Kuuuzcooooo!!!🎶
Its the funniest Disney movie ever lmfao idk who wrote it but they were some sarcastic mfs 💀😭
I went and saw this 3 separate times in theaters as a kid. I was maybe 4-5 years old. Loved this movie man. This and recess schools out.
Right on bro
Eartha Kitt deserves so much praise and respect for her voiceover work on this movie. Her comic timing and delivery makes this movie pure comic gold.
And the translators too! Eartha is great but so are most of her dub actresses, this movie is hilarious in so many languages
@@graceross4888 Yessss, Marieta Severo does an amazing job as Izma for the brazilian version.
Eartha was a true treasure. Drama, comedy, and singing, she was a rare triple threat.
Eartha Kitt was such an iconic woman and I’m happy that she was a part of mine and so many others childhoods ❤️
speaking of eartha kitt, something something bathroom something something pierce
As a screenwriter and director, I felt Roger Allers pain when they completely changed his vision. It's painful when your vision is compromised but at the same time, I get why Disney changed it. At least we got
"Pull the lever Kronk."
"WRONG LEVER!!!"
"Why do we even HAVE that lever?!?" (a question, by the way, applicable to *so* many life situations)
Now I don't have to write this quote.
Its all comming together
@@oscard.lisboa6105 Also: "Well, you got me. By all accounts, it doesn't make sense."
"squeeka, sqeeeker, squeek squeek...."
I remember going to the movie theatre with 0 expectations. In fact , they where dragging me to see it. I left the room still laughing and re acting scenes, I couldn't believe Disney had made a really funny movie. Still at this day, all jokes still hit their mark. Comedy speaking, this movie is true gold.
That's almost my experience exactly. I could never believe Disney made such a dry, hilarious film. 22 yrs ago and I still love it to this day.
Llama jokes are timeless who woulda thought.
Yzma is my favorite villain so far! But I have to say it was thanks to the Spanish dubbing! Mayra Rojas did a great job there! This is one of the few movies I prefer to watch in Spanish.
I remember watching it in the theater when I was like 8 or 9 and my mom was laughing just as much as I was, we both thought it was one of the funniest things we've ever seen.
"Krooonnnk... Pull the LEEEVER!
It is absolutely wild to think that the emperor's new groove was a huge failure... it is probably my favorite Disney movie of all time
I mean ultimately it was still profitable, just not nearly profitable enough to Disney’s extremely high standards
its the only animated (non-pixar) i can still watch as a 25 year old adult and not get bored of it being a kids movie.
@@francisguyman3819 i watched it so many times i still know most of the dialogues (im 33)
18:09-Facts: Mark Dindal would eventually go on to direct Chicken Little in 2005, Walt Disney Feature Animation’s first computer-animated feature as he re-teamed with producer Randy Fullmer. Roger Allers would leave the studio to direct Open Season, Sony Pictures Animations first feature, After retiring from Disney, Randy Fullmer founded his own company designing and building custom bass guitars and would appear in the 2014 documentary about his life, Restrung.
@@johnpeters7073 Another fact:After producing titles such as Beauty and the Beast and The Lion King, Don Hahn went on to become an executive producer of the Disneynature series and a documentary director. The films he’s directed include 2009’s Waking Sleeping Beauty, about the Disney Renaissance, and 2018’s Howard, about songwriter Howard Ashman.
The movie was such a breath of fresh air. It's also eternally rewatchable. Best voice cast in the modern era.
The rewatchability of this movie is such a good point! There was an Ice Cream shop near my house growing up that religiously played ENG on the tv, everyday. It was amazing because every time we'd go in there it would still be on, but at a different scene than the last time we were in there and it never failed to make us laugh every time even disjointed and out of context
Yzma is by far my favorite character; she's funny and intimidating, and Eartha Kitt's performance was INCREDIBLE.
“Allers couldn’t bear to do it” 🥺 actually crying over this. This was his BABY and he knew there was nothing he could do about it. That said the result was incredible
It's so sad to see an artist love something so much and to see him lose it. It reminds me of Richard Williams and his decades' labor of love working on The Thief and the Cobbler, only to have it cut up and dubbed over by Disney subsidiary Miramax. Absolutely heartbreaking. :(
Eventually the movie has to be finished. He was never gonna finish the movie. At some point the producer/studio has to step in so youre not wasting tons of money and time
"Disney didn't know how to market the film." Oh they knew. They had just given up on 2D animation before the movie even came out. Both Eisner and Katzenberg had gone all in on live action and 3D animation. Which they cannibalized all their 2D films. I mean, they didn't even give the 2D films a chance. Giving them 5-10x less marketing. The low box office numbers is because of a lack of studio support. When they put more marketing behind movies like Antz and Bug's Life over Prince of Egypt and Lilo and Stitch...yeah. The fix was in.
I love this movie! It's so frustrating to see anytime Disney doesn't believe in a project they therefore decide not to do the proper work to market it like with this movie and for example Treasure Planet.
This absolutely a valid point, but Antz and The Prince of Egypt weren't Disney productions
This is why it's frustrating when people say 2D American movies are dead because viewers lost interest. No, it's because the studios kept mishandling their films and animators because "CGI is the hot thing!!!"
One of the reasons anime has become so popular is because it's able to scratch that 2D itch that most western animation hasn't been able to do in a long time. It looks like we're finding creative ways to incorporate traditional with CG in recent movies tho (Spiderverse and Bad Guys) and maybe that's how 2D movies will eventually make their comeback.
@@PollenEye Anime also fills multiple genre and demographic holes Hollywood gave up on. It's not just that anime is unique and foreign. But anime is producing shows with themes and tone like Hollywood used to in the 1980s and 1990s. You can find an anime that's similar to Batman: TAS or X-Men or Garfield. But you can't find any modern Hollywood shows that do that.
@@maxis2k That too. For the longest time, most cartoons were allowed to either be family friendly adventures or crude adult comedies. Anime studios always respected animation as a medium, not a genre. That's thankfully changing as well, at least for animated series...film is still kinda stuck in that gap. I've been pretty pleased with the different cartoons on streaming such as Netflix and Amazon. Hell, Primal is probably one of my favorite cartoons of all time now. The variety makes me happy.
My friends and I used to watch The Emperor's New Groove every time we went to their house (which was often), almost to the point to where we could quote the whole thing from memory! No matter what it could've been, The Emperor's New Groove will forever hold a place in my heart as a fun, zanny, nostalgia film
The same with my wife (the rude interrupting lady in the video).
@@ItWasAShtShow lol she kept the video on track when it needed it ;) (excellent video essay btw)
I know at least 4 people that can quote the whole movie (and gestures too). And I'm sure they will in their death beds.
Me and my friends continue to reference the movie lines to this day decades later!
@@pokeface119 Pull the lever, Kronk!
Would I like to see what the original movie was planned to be? Yes. But it would have meant no Kronk and I don’t want to live in that world.
That IS the bad timeline.
Kronk is my favorite Disney character of all time. Noone comes close!
@@monmothma3358 Riiiiiight...
Feel the power Kronk!
Oh, I feel it.
@@kevinlee7678 Sure. Do you know another lovable semi-villain who ends up teaching classes of Squirrel Language (including to the villain)?
Didn't think so.
I still remember as a kid when Kronk had his own theme music and pressed against the wall, I died laughing. It is one of the funniest scenes I have ever seen in a movie. Still gets me as an adult.
The “He didn’t pay his check” part had me literally rolling on the floor.
New Groove is comedic genius. From the voice acting to the animation, to the jokes, to the story-telling style- it really came together. Even though it was a long, hard road, they managed to swing a perfect final product. That never happens. The quotes in this movie are etched in gold. Props to Eartha Kitt for being hilarious and rolling with such witty humor.
Stories like this make me think of how, as a child, I wanted nothing more than to be an animator at Disney, and how glad I am that it didn't happen.
I wanted that too. But I grew up in the 1980’s when they would regularly re-release movies into the theatres. It was nice to see 101 Dalmatian’s, Bambi, Fantasia, The Jungle Book and others on a big screen. They stopped doing this around 1992, after Beauty and the Beast was such a hit. I wish I lived in an area where old films were always released on big screens. Only saw Raiders of the Lost Arc on big screen……..
Uh oh.. im a freshman in college planning to go into animation… maybe I should quit before I start 🤣
Ha! I DID become an animator at Disney from Little Mermaid to Hercules. It started great and eventually broke my heart. Luckily I escaped to Warners to do Iron Giant, but after that my animation career fell apart.
@@scarecrowjones1 Im a college senior majoring in animation and I say don’t quit, just look for better companies or other avenues that animation can be applied. For instance I’m going into the marketing aspect of animation/modeling. I also have friends going into game design. You can even get jobs at news stations (if you like fast past environments). The animation career can span across platforms, don’t give up cause Disney sucks.
@@scarecrowjones1 is this some kind of satire or something? I didn't get the joke
This adds a new layer of bittersweet nostalgia to one of my favorite movies. While I'll always love the slapstick and quotable one-liners of Emperor's New Groove, I'm now also saddened by an earnest and culturally appreciative movie musical being squeezed out by Hollywood/corporate deadlines. It stings a little harder as a person of Peruvian heritage, which, don't get me wrong, I do still love the in back-drop only display of Incan culture in what we got, but man, what could've been is also now also on my mind. Great presentation, your use of the film's score and scenes to hit emotional beats worked really well.
It "stings"? BOO! BOO I say!
"it stings a little harder..." i see what you did there
@@ccggenius Are they saying Booo? Or Boo urns..?
Us peruvian kids never really cared for “authenticity” but we always remembered this movie for its comedy. To this day Its still one of ny favorite disney movies
I like imaginatively due to the fact its at 555...don't wanna harm that beautiful sync.
Love Emperor's New Groove, but it really is an honest shame that Aller’s Kingdom of the Sun got axed. It would have been so cool to see Incan mythology get some colorfully animated screen time. Makes me wonder what could have been produced if Eisner had granted the request for a 6 month refocus.
Allers himself didn't know what he truly wanted out of the movie.
The pitch just sounds better than what it actually was
@@Anon-qp3kt I mean a lot of pitches are like that. Some of the best movies we've gotten have been from disjointed ideas being edited together into a proper film. I know the animation process is more set in stone but I really liked the grand ideas from Kingdom. It's a shame, maybe we'll get it someday considering all the Disney+ content being produced.
Luckily we did get Emperor's New Groove. Such a funny and nostalgic film for me, alongside Lilo and Stitch. At least we got a zanny ADHD driven comedy fest!
Prob how we got moana down the line and coco and good ole encanto
@@Anon-qp3kt honestly Roger Allers was unhappy as Mark Dindal was. Dindal of course was apparently unhappy during production of The Emperors New Groove and Chicken Little.
The emperor's new groove was my personal favorite Disney Film of all time. The comedy hits harder than any other Disney movie.
You know say what you will about the lack of deep culture but I feel that the emperors new groove wasn’t “just” comedy. It still had a lot of heart and I still nearly cry at certain scenes! It offered a lot of strong messages for kids about kindness and selflessness.
quite a... well a miracle, really, that this turned out to be a movie that exists, let alone the hilarious classic that it is. sucks that the original vision was axed, and the crunch that ensued afterward, but ey they made their money back with dvd sales and i love the film lol
There's never a bad time to retake Empire of the Sun and give it a go, though.
I suppose its better for a movie that was good but could have been better than a bad movie that wasted its potential
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The loss of Eartha Kitt would sadly make that feel hollow, even if they went all out with the complexity and the drama and the bombast and the philosophy, honoring the original vision. It would be like trying to do a Return of the Jedi remake where Darth Vader is voiced by just, some guy. You’re missing the soul that the one-of-a-kind voice brought to it.
@@adyenlichtwachter6684 imo the fact that we got Road to El Dorado out of the fiasco makes up for it. Another one of my absolute favorite movies of my childhood.
I think it differs enough from the original concept that they could actually remake the original concept... I wouldn't trust modern Disney to pull it off but who knows what shifts might happen in upcoming decades.
It still shocks me just how much marketing impacts audience response to films. I’ve never met someone who didn’t like The Emperor’s New Groove, although I’m sure people like that exist, too. So to hear it bombed when it came out… it’s kind of appalling. It’s unfortunate that no one realized the appeal of this film. I say those who said it didn’t have enough story didn’t know what they were looking at and those who said it was too chaotic didn’t realize that sometimes, chaos breeds creative genius. My friends and I think this film has a great heartfelt story at the core and that that chaos was necessary for that story… We loved it when it came out when we were all kids and we still love it. Some of us are now sharing it with our own kids!
as a tween I remember seeing the famous waterfall sequence from promos and knew I had to see the movie. it did *not* disappoint. but growing up the whole 90s on every new disney release, I knew the movie felt different while sitting and watching it but I was loving it and quoting it remained in the family for a long time. sad to hear it was a flop at the time. I didn't remember it was released around the time of the grinch live action which I also saw in theaters, that's wild. time is such a blur. lol
It was my favorite of the 90s Disney outside of Aladdin (I know released in 2000). Way different and funnier.
I can tell you why it failed. Because by the time it came out, the "average" movie goer, if there can be said to be such a thing, was done with Disney animation. There wasn't any anticipation over their projects anymore.
Years later, when I heard New Grove was actually good, I was shocked, gave it a try, and was pleasantly surprised.
Thats the sad thing about media like this.. A company sets itself up for failure, then blames the people given an impossible task for said failure, when the truth is, the workers did a great job. It was the corporation to blame.
Emperors New Groove was literally one of my favorite movies as a kid. I distinctly remember my dad laughing his ass off when he would watch it with us.
"...what is holding this woman together??" kills us everytime.
I’m 46, and it’s still one of my favourite films. If I need a good laugh I watch ENG
owen wilson as the original patcha is absolutely wild. can you imagine a “wow” from emperors new groove?!
Its 'waaoooooow'
As much as I love and enjoy Emperors New Groove, I would have loved to see them pull off Kingdom of the Sun. It sounded like it could have been really fantastic.
Probably never going to happen but with Disney Plus's new thing about streaming episodic series, I really wish they give Kingdom of the Sun another go.
What part of any of this video made it sound like it was going to be anything but a complete mess?
I could definitely see them doing the prince and the pauper again.
It sounded super convoluted and too dramatic. Returning the sun that stole an evil queen’s youth and the guy turned into a llama was mute?? That limits so many jokes
I think one big trouble with that is that a lot of those themes have since been done to death. I would love to hear those cut Sting tracks, though
Still think Kingdom of the Sun could very well turn into a Broadway Musical… I have read the whole story and context that was given in a pamphlet distributed when the first screening happened, and it was amazing….
Also still funny how it bombed but it still got a whole TV show and direct to DVD sequel that didn’t suck…
That's kinda what happens when the animation department doesn't have much work to do thanks to the increased interest in 3d animated films and no budgets. Direct to DVD sequels...
It was a massive success in home media
I almost forgot about the TV show, I was rewatching it on Disney Life but it didn't make it to Disney Plus when that launched. I actually might've seen the show before either film and I love all three! I'm honestly shocked to hear it flopped, it's definitely a classic!
It's sad to know they tripped on the finish line due to bad marketing. They set Emperor's New Groove against *How The Grinch Stole Christmas* . Who in their right minds thought it would be a good idea to put an experimental new story to compete for attention with one of the most iconic christmas tales out there?
Methinks, a Disney trying to sabotage themselves.
I mean maybe in the US, IDK anyone in Europe who even knows who Dr Seuss is. Heck most here have only ever seen the Grinch in the background of the HomeAlone movies.
@@drdewott9154 I'm guessing that was the original animated one? Which is still a banger of a classic
@@drdewott9154 It might not have as much strength in Europe, but it's still become popular enough that it is brought back every christmas season. Here in Brazil the animation and live-action of the Grinch is aired on TV every year, and now it's the Illumination version that's the latest pick. It's as iconic as A Christmas Carol which has been source of dozens of movie versions.
@@IMayOrMayHaveNot Not here though, like here in Europe, especially around my neck of the woods in Scandinavia, the American household names of the season aren't very popular. We don't have no Grinch or Peanuts Christmas special for christmas. We have HomeAlone but that's the only real major one that's popular in both the Americas and Europe. Heck we have stuff thats really popular here which has faded out of fashion in the US, like the Disney's "From All of us to All of you" which airs here every year on christmas eve across the Nordics.
In high school I used to show this movie religiously to different people. I remember having little screenings when my parents would go away. Such a great movie, and ahead of its time
When it comes down to it, it still is my favorite Disney movie. It's one that I could watch on repeat and never get tired of. The jokes were timeless and just the overall flow along with 4th wall breaking just made it mad fun. Sure, it doesn't have the weight like many other Disney movies but I think that's what made it special. It was just a buddy adventure with at least something learned at the end.
There were several films released at this point in Disney's history that the audience just wasn't prepared for, or for which Disney had pulled the marketing budget for, thus causing them to flop: The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis the Lost Empire, and Treasure Planet. And all three of them are favorites of mine, right up there alongside Mulan and Hercules. The Emperor's New Groove was the comedic relief to the darker, more serious undercurrents of Atlantis the Lost Empire and Treasure Planet. They are all fantastic and criminally underrated films and I end up recommending them to anyone who hasn't seen them. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
This so much!! Those 3 films are so incredibly good, but sadly I think the audience is more niche than Lion king or such. A shame, because they rocked
Those three were my favorite too. Also the Road to El Dorado, Sinbad, and Lilo and Stitch were okay too but not nearly as good as those three. Sword in the Stone was cool. 💁🏻♂️
@@WonderlustThing The Road to El Dorado and Sinbad, while both excellent films, are not Disney films. They were both Dreamworks animated films. Lilo and Stitch is about on par in my opinion. It's a lovely film and always gets me choked up because they both wanted to feel loved and have a happy family and then they found each other, overcame adversity and mixed feelings, and everyone became one big happy family. Because Ohana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten.
@@mndlessdrwer ah. that explains it lol Dreamworks is cool. That new Bad Guys film was pretty dang good.
Reminds me of when I found out the animated movie Anastasia wasn't Disney! Instead, it was created to compete against The Little Mermaid at the time.
Doesn't matter anymore cuz Disney owns it now.
Still a fantastic animated movie, if you haven't seen it!
I hope that someday Disney will get their shit together and make the kingdom of the sun. It sounds sad to leave such an awesome project collecting dust in the archive
It'll be live action unfortunately
If it’s live action be prepared for unexpected zulus to drop in.
Disney pushes an agenda of entitled women and slave men. I hope the corporation fails.
I can just imagine what Pixar can do with such an idea. Disney brought us 'Encanto', but in the hands of Pixar 'Kingdom of the Sun' can be the film where Pixar proves they're still showing Disney how it's done.
I really want to see it.
it’s crazy how disney keeps on ruining animators creatives process, due to money and time frames (which are valid, reorganizing and pushing stuff back and really hender the company)
but it doesn’t help when you are a ANIMATION COMPANY and you get your money from making good films.
i love this movie because this movie (and the road to el dorado) was the only movie that had any peruvian/bolivian representation!! it’s sad that the original director was going for that and disney just threw that all away.
the incan culture has soo many fables and such great tails. i’m surprised disney nor pixar haven’t jumped on it yet! such great tales and stories could be told!
definitely would’ve loved more peruvian/bolivian tunes in the movie. (not complaining tho sting was not it)
Give it time. Disney is on a latinoxploitation streak so they can tap into that brown market and make millions of pesos (five dollars). Eventually we'll get a movie about the magical adventures of a talking ball of Chipá who rides his llama in order to find the mythical lost bootleg streetwear market in the mountains alongside his coke selling communist midget sidekick
Road to El Dorado never had Bolivians appearing on-screen. What the animators decided to show was a mashup of several Mesoamerican civilizations with a dominant Mayan background.
@@Valerio_the_wandering_sprite yeah it was more centroamerican
Both Disney and Pixar aren’t going to jump on either Central American tales or African tales anytime soon, because unless a POC is directing it it will immediately be shot down as racist. Which saddens me.
Yeah I'm getting annoyed with Disney just redoing the same stories but race/gender swapping. There are tons of cultures with awesome myths and stories, why do we need to keep redoing the same European stories?
“She believed that the sun robbed her of her beauty” ah so she didn’t wear sunscreen
This movie came out when I was a very young adult. I remember dreading to watch another Disney cartoon when a friend's girlfriend rented this from Blockbuster. We belly laughed through the whole thing and its still one of my favorites to this day. It is just so different and irreverent and the casting is brilliant.
More documentaries like The Sweatbox need to be made. It gives those not in the industry an excellent peak into the inner workings of big budget animation.
The entire diner scene in TENG is a giant in joke to the movies production history.
The chef is Roger Allers trying to bring his vision to life but under pressure from others finally quiets out of frustration.
Pacha is the animators excited to see the vision brought to life.
Kuzco is the Disney executives disappointed with production and badgering Allers to do better.
Yzma is Michael Eisner question why their is such a heavy theme on Inca mythology
Kronk is Mark Dindal trying to suggest more comedy but ultimately causes Allers to quit.
Mind. Blown!
And the timing of the entire scene is one of the best comedy bits I've ever seen in a movie, possibly highlighting (intentionally or not) that what we got from the ashes was better than what had come before.
@@ItWasAShtShow Executives: Look all I'm saying is that this movie looks iffy and im not the only one who thinks that so im just making sure you take this movie up a notch.
Michael Eisner: Is there anything in this movie that is not swimming in Inca myth?
Mark Dindal: Hang on I'll go ask Roger.
Executives: Its a simple question will or will not this movie be ready for summer 2000
Roger Allers: (Grunts)
Executives: Hey I didn't ask him about musical numbers yet!
Dindal: Hey Roger what's your policy on this movie having more comedy?
Roger Allers: Alright Dindal, you want this to be a comedy, than you make it, I QUIT!
Dindal: Wait what?
Allers: You know I try and I try, theirs just no respect for anyone with vision, that's it theirs nothing I can do about it!
the thing is the emperors new groove was probably one of the funniest disney animated flims made druing the animated renosense. and heck the jokes if anything still hold up today and feel timeless like honestly i think it may be a movie that was ahead of its time.
God I miss Disney's high-budget 2D animation. They need to bring it back.
Same, I prefer 2D animation any day over 3D animation. It just has so much more charme and never gets old in my opinion.
@S. Niter best news I’ve heard all year!
@S. Niter lol not for movies
@S. Niter source?
@S. Niter i have a feeling this is misinformation, is there a source?
As interesting as Kingdom of the Sun sounds, I do believe they made the right decision in the end. The movie seems to be sugar coated a little bit with what might have been almost every time it's talked about. In reality, when really looking at it, it was a mess of story lines that didn't have enough to do with each other. Pacha and Manko wouldn't have much anything to do with each other after the beginning, Manko and his love interest not only wouldn't have been able to go much of anywhere as long as he was a llama, but also would have been almost completely disconnected from the rest of the film. Manco and Pacha would somehow have to get together again at some point and figure out how to turn him back which is another thing to juggle. Yzma, as much as I love the song, had no clear goal. She wanted to be young again but also wanted to raise a demon to destroy the sun, which is fine as long as they connect to each other but it seems they never really did. And finally, you would have to have Pacha connect to Yzma in some important way to drive the plot to the point of him lassoing the demon, not to mention his love interest and how she would fit into all of this.
There's just too much and not enough time. There are 6 plot lines here: Pacha and Manco with the llama thing, Manco's love story, Pacha being the emperor, Pachas love story, Yzma wanting to reclaim her youth and beauty, and Yzma wanting to raise the dead and destroy the sun. There's just not enough to connect all these plots and keep the movie consistent.
To make this work, I believe some serious stuff would need to change. Yzma would have to have her only purpose be revenge on the sun even though it wouldn't bring her youth back. Manco's love story just needs to be scrapped and replaced with him being in the palace to see how things run better without him (or something similar to improve him as a person) and to learn about Yzma's plans. He would need to try to warn Pacha about it which would mean needing to be human again. If we had Pacha figure out the llama was Manco they could figure out how to change him back and then Manco (now being able to speak again) could warn about Yzma. Pacha would then have to prepare to fight Yzma and lasso the demon and so on and so forth.
Pacha's love story might still be able to fit but it would take a lot to make it work. This is just an idea and it might still be too much for one film, comment any other versions you think might work better. As long as Yzma gets her song back, I'm happy.
I'd like to see the original cuts. It's kind of fascinating how it all came together, because it ends up being one of my most favorite Disney movies of all time, but it was obviously such a cluster funk trying to get it together.
The fact that an "illegal" underground documentary called The Sweatbox exists that documents all of this is amazing
I adore Emperor’s New Groove, but I so wish that Kingdom of the Sun had been made. I think it would be wonderful on stage
technically christina aguilera hadn't put out her first record when she signed up for mulan. she was no star recruit, but a promising talent on the rise.
It’s funny, it lacks irrelevant romance, and still manages to be a pretty heart warming story that brings a lot of laughs
Its box office failure really goes to show how important advertising is when it comes to media.
The same happened with "Bicentennial Man", starring Robin Williams: The film was advertised as a comedy, but ended up being a heartwarming tale about love, life, existence, recognition of being.
It was the first time I've ever laughed so much watching a movie in theatres, massive props to the Latin American dub for retaining Yzma's voice and comedic timing perfectly.
Allers had a good plot going for him.
*For a show*
To try to condense something with substance with THAT many moving parts would not fit in a 2.5 hour timeframe XD I feel bad for him cause he seemed like he really wanted to honor the Incan culture and legends.
Yea - but he really could do with some pruning. That script sounds like a mess.
Some sort of Acorn-style miniseries could have been really good.
I feel so bad for Allers, his passion project falling under the weight of its own ambition.
I feel like when things are actual hell to make they either come out horrible or amazing and no in between, and the amazing ones always come out at a bad time. There’s a band that I listen to, and all of their members were in really dark periods in their lives when making their second album, nowadays most fans consider it their best album but it dropped only 2 weeks before the 9/11 attacks, so you can imagine it wasn’t exactly on peoples minds. This is my personal favorite animated film out there, love the video! It deserves way more views
Not always escape from planet earth was mediocre and had a grueling production history
What band?
@@GringoXalapeno They said that-"either come out horrible or amazing and no in-between"
@@ZiddersRooFurry i know and I was saying it’s not always the case
@@ZiddersRooFurry Slipknot
One of my favorite movies of all time. Entirely quotable and endlessly watchable. The cast is gold; not a single weak link in the group, from the Diner's waitress to Kuzco. It's Brilliant.
Not gonna lie, the original version of the movie sounds amazing. It's a shame it got axed. It'd be a joy to see it get made someday.
I feel like Kingdom of the Sun is something that could be successful under a production company like A24.
I'll always love Emperor's New Groove. I loved it as a kid, I love it as an adult.
And yet part of me will always wonder how things would have turned out if Kingdom of the Sun became what it was meant to be. I can see the effort and heart put into it, so...I kinda want to see that timeline.
It's a mental paradox of loving what you got, but wanting to see how it could have been.
wow, i really love whenever someone talks about kingdom of the sun!!! my storyboard teacher was a layout artist for the film from start to finish, and he always tells stories about the production!!! he always talks about kingdom of the sun with great love, and tells about how much more adult and beautiful the story was. he once said that the title was kind of an inside joke between the artists, because the executives were always changing their minds and making new changes!! it's such a shame how now we only get to see some of the sketches and hear about the story from the people who were there at the time, and not the actual movie... great video, btw!!
Thank you for sharing! Super interesting. What could have been...
ENG is one of those low-key perfect comedies, right up there with "Galaxy Quest" and "Princess Bride." For better or worse, all the pieces just clicked right into place and my childhood is forever grateful.
Side note but it would be kinda cool if Disney decided to have another go at "Emperor of the Sun." Imagine marketing it as "The reason Emperor's New Grove is a movie."
Emperor's New Groove is one of my all-time favorite movies. It makes me laugh every time. The jokes never get old! I'm so glad it was made.
This is great. Bravo. I don't know how ENG is a shame though. Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, and that film about cows, those were disappointments. ENG is genuinely funny and it's not surprising it became a cult classic. Even if it didn't make a ton of money, people were still willing to go watch the next disney movie that came out. After the first of the Chicken Little set, I stopped going until Tangled came out.
Okay but Meet the Robinson's is legitimately great
Agreed, it's one of my all time favorites films
BOLT! Bolt was NOT a dissapointment at all. It's hilarious
Bolt was great, though.
Meet the robinsons was a disappointment? To who? It's one of the most beloved films. Almost everyone I meet says this is their favorite disney movie
It sounds the original production of this movie needed that Katzenberg determination to get it done. Too many people with too many different ideas on what the movie should be, and no one to step up and say “No. Here is what the movie is going to be about. That’s it”
Fascist Jew, only in America xD
Have you seen the like hour long video on how this was one of the problems that doomed Spider-Man: Turn off the dark?
Though hubris and inexperience were even bigger problems.
He gets too much credit. His so called greatness couldn't save Quibie
Too many chiefs, not enough Indians
They made a documentary about this called the sweatbox and it really exposed Disney executives and that’s why they banned it This movie got a terrible treatment for when it could be I really hope they remake this into the kingdom of the sun or somebody else picks us up this could be one of the greatest movies of all time
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@@ItWasAShtShow i know
"i make comments before i watch the whole video"
Somehow this demonstrates how important, and messy the process can be. This movie is a masterpiece, I love it to this day. Absolutely brilliant. Money does not reflect the happiness this story brings.
This movie was BIG over here in Argentina, like EVERYONE knew about it haha, and I know other countries from latinoamerica had an even bigger love for this movie (called Las locuras del emperador over here).
I still remember they used to constantly play it on tv up until the beginning of the 2010s, when they stopped playing 2d movies or shows and instead showed mostly sitcoms.
I’m surprised to know that it only became popular on other continents in the last few years, seeing that it was very well known over here, but ey I’m glad it happened. This movie deserves all love and glory!
Wow, I can totally respect everyones decisions in this making. Everyone had their point. I can also totally feel with Sting and Allers
Wild to hear that Hercules flopped because that movie SLAPS. Making LionKing a musical was the right choice. And emperors new groove wasn’t a bad movie.
Hercules had the best villain
I'm a 35 year old man and I still make my wife watch this with me twice a year. She worked for Disney and when she took me there for the first time we wore matching homemade shirts that said "PULL THE LEVER" on the front and "WRONG LEVER" on the back, the employees all stopped us and gushed over it.
Hahahaha thats just fantastic !
That's cute 😂😂
I want those shirts
The Emperor's New Groove was my childhood jam, and still is great in its own way. The story, the comedy and of course the 4th wall breaks are goldmines.
I was seven or eight years old when this came out and throughout the years, when I want to watch a movie that came out in my childhood, this is it.
It's my favourite
And I really do think the humour is so concurrent with our generation
Emperor's New Groove is an absolute essential in our home. The adults of course love it more than the children. "Why do we even have that LEVER?"
First, im gonna put him in a box, then im gonna put that box in another box, and then I'll SMASH IT WITH A HAMMER😂
I honestly think that Disney not investing into the promotion of the movie damned it to bomb. People loved the movie back then, test screenings for the final version of the movie were apparently great! If Disney had promoted it more, and better, maybe ENG would've not bombed. That, and the fact that it released at a _very_ bad time for its success. Going against Jim Carrey is basically suicide. (moviecide?)
Disney does that a lot - Atlantis, Treasure Planet? Great movies that are all underrated because Disney wasn't interested in them. They boycotted the whole thing themselves with bad advertisements and a lack of merchandise.
Those movies had the potential to keep Disney on top. And they could have worked with "The sunrise kingdom" if they had committed to it. The same goes for Frozen and the sequel, where they focus again on what makes the money instead of making a culturally appropriate movie.
While the results are not bad, they could have been better - and while the emperors groove is fun, I would have loved to see the original movie
@@z2yn Oh yes, the tragic tale of how they sabotaged Treasure Planet so much that the sequel never got further than the drafts. I'm still glad that Atlantis at least got its sequel and proper conclusion, even if it was downscaled from a full series to one of these weird disney compilation-movies.
Cinecide
@@turmericchai9 This is it folks, we've found the word! Thanks Heidi!
@@lpfan4491 Wait, what? I've never heard of that, but considering Disney, wouldn't be surprised. Where can I find more about what they did with Treasure Planet?
In my personal opinion, this was a case where the executives intervening to stop the director was actually FOR THE BETTER! Once Mark Dindal took over, they were relatively hands off and he basically got to do what he wanted so long as he met the deadline.
The night I saw Emperors New Groove in the theatre has become an indelible memory for me. It’s a long story, but the short version was that I was at the mall with friends in college. We wanted to go see a movie since the good theatre was at the mall. The majority voted for ENG, I reluctantly went with them with the thought, ugh another Disney movie, with princesses and singing like the movies my little sister liked. I came out a fan. It’s easily number one in my top ten animated films. And it has remained there for 20 plus years.
I remember seeing the Emperors New Groove in theaters!!!! I didn’t know what to expect and walked out knowing it was one of the best movies I’d seen in a long time!! Such a classic
Mark Dindal has made 2 absolute cult classics. Cats Don't Dance and Emperor. And both in classic 2D animation that has more stretch and squeeze than any 3D animation can ever do. Give him another film someone!
Good news: they did.
Bad news: it was Chicken Little.
I SO badly want to see that original cut. Speaking as someone who absolutely loves EMG, btw. Who isn't a fan of large-scale epic with deep emotion like that... I wish both could have been made :( Great video!
I adore The Emperor's New Groove. It is my favorite movie of all time. But the more I learn and think about the production of the movie, the more I realize how crappy it really was. I hope Disney decides to make The Kingdom of the Sun instead of remaking this masterpiece.
Perhaps the production was a Sh*t Show, but that shouldn’t take away your enjoyment of it. It’s very much it’s own thing. Much like KotS would have been. Believe me, of the films we’ve covered on this channel, at least there wasn’t a major death or a ruthless backstabbing during its making. It was entirely just a creative change.
I adore it too. And the back story just makes it all the more amazing!!!
I really am sad that the Kingdom of the Sun never saw the light of day…it’s sounds like such a good film!
@@mrs.manrique7411 KOTS sounds like El Dorado meets Brother Bear to me. Hard Pass
That's not a bad idea
@0:54 Is that a young Tim Burton? He used to sleep at his art desk but trained himself to sleep upright with the pencil in his hand. Whenever anyone came in he'd snap back awake and try to look like he had been working.
Sure is him!
@@ItWasAShtShow Love it. His stories of working at Disney at the time are both hilarious and depressing lol
This movie's comedic focus helped it, I think it perfectly compliments the sentimental aspects and I honestly see it as one of Disney's most raw and emotionally honest movies
Emperor's New Groove is a fun film. The Road to El Dorado is the combination of comedy and epic story that it sounds like they originally wanted.
It's a real shame The Road to El Dorado sequels never happened.
I don't know why, but I could never get into The Road To El Dorado 😢
I love that the writers goofed off during writing sessions, I'm sure they NEEDED to do that in order to discover some of the absolutely hysterical bits in the movie. Kronk doing the cricket sound against the wall, I just sit here and die laughing as I imagine the writers coming up with that sequence.
I actually LOVED the Emperor's New Groove TV show (Emperor's New School, 2006), and didn't realize it started as a movie until like 2015 in highschool
"Is that my voice??? is that my voice?? oh well...." I remember laughed uncontrollably on that scene.... one of the funniest disney movie....
I'm SO glad I found this. Despite never watching the full movie... I know I know I WILL I PROMISE,
Having wanting to make cartoons as a kid I have ALWAYS sought out the behind the scenes making of type stuff of my favorite cartoons (still seeking out 80s90s Alvin & the chipmunks stuff lol) i had no idea this even existed. I gotta go find sweatbox asap after peeping more from your channel!
BOOOOOM, baby!
These folks made an absolute classic. Movies that go through this sort of a ridiculous creative process seem to resonate because effort and necessity translate well to dialogue and drama.
Bravo on the Chuck Jones shoutout. I definitely saw his influence in the movie when I saw it in the theatre, and many MANY more times on home video.
Chuck Jones,Bob Clampett,and Tex Avery are the kings of Cartoons
I was a child when this movie came out. My aunt got it on VHS and I watched it once and instantly fell in love. This movie stayed in the VHS to the point I would rewind it constantly spending days just watching the movie over and over again. Even as an adult this movie makes me laugh harder it is forever one of my favorite movies of all time.
I'm blown away that this series isn't more popular. This channel definitely deserves more subs.
I'm peruvian and I absolutely love ENG since (for me at least) it's just a gringo story with an inca mask , it didn't felt like cultural appropriation since they weren't even trying lmao
and I specially love the spanish dub
This movie is actually my favorite Disney Movie. Funny, genius, funny and good looking.
emperor's new groove is absolutely amazing, i love the casting, animation, everything. sad to see this was one of the last 2D animated films in the disney franchise.
As someone who grew up watching Conan O'Brien every night, it makes sense that I've always loved the humor in this movie even when it came out after I was a kid. Knowing a writer from Conan came over and, like Late Night, pushed the envelope with absurdity and gags, it's no wonder. Great video!
Makes you wonder what would’ve happened if Kingdom of the Sun came out instead of what we got.
#ReleaseTheAyerCut!
It probably would have been pretty good, too. But I think what we got was pretty great
it would have gotten the same reception as Lunch Bag of Notre Dame and Pocahontas
Honestly, its style somewhat reminded me of Road to El Dorado and Sinbad.
@@hiddendesire3076 but ENG was much more funny and enjoyable
This film will always be one of my all time favourites, I could watch it a million times and never get bored.
Though we'll never truly know what the original could have been, I'm glad at least, "Snuff Out the Light", one of Sting's un-used songs for the original version is available to listen to and isn't buried forever. Would've been so cool if Yzma got her villain song
This was and still to this day my favorite animation Disney has made. Nothing has topped it in my books
Whenever i hear the words "lion king" and "documentary" together brings a chill to my spine
This was probably my favorite movie when I was a child. We wore down the dvd. My sisters and I knew the entire movie line by line. We'd be in a much different world if it had been marketed differently
TENG was the first animated movie to mix dumb-but-witty jokes and verbal, quick-twist in the end humour, to mainstream audiences. Something that Disney haven't done before.
All of it CROWNED IN GOLD by David Spade's performance and Eartha Kitt's (MSRIP) bewitching charm. ...a, and Kronk.
TENG pretty much SET, the animated TV and Movie comedy style as we know it today.
My favorite Disney movie of all time, hands down. Hilarious, sweet, endlessly rewatchable. Thank you!
I'm actually glad this happened. In an age where, to be frank, the overblown musicals were starting to get stale, if _KotS_ had gone forward as intended, I feel it probably would've just ended up getting lost in the shuffle and ultimately been forgotten. _ENG,_ on the other hand, was a much-welcome breath of fresh air, and it turned into one of the most memorable Disney animated films of the modern era precisely because of how un-Disney it is. It felt more like a feature-length Looney Tune than a Disney film, and I mean that in the best possible way. To this day, _ENG_ is still my favorite non-Pixar Disney animated film of all time by a _massive_ margin. The only other one that even comes close is Wreck-It Ralph, and even that's a long way off.
yup I couldn’t agree more!! XD
@@joshuagonzalez4183 Musicals make sense for Fairytales and Hunch Back, but it's hard to take it seriously in other stories. We're the song's in Tarzan really necessary???????
@@orangeslash1667 the thing about Tarzan and why the songs don't work as well there is they just _feel_ like background songs. They're nice songs on their own, but how much more powerful would "You'll Be In My Heart" be if this was sung by Tarzan's mother than the disembodied voice of Phil Collins? Or if Tarzan himself sang "Strangers Like Me" as he finds out there were others who were like himself.
Paradoxically, as stale as the Disney musical format had become at that time, I think that film would have been stronger by actually going that route than this weird in-between idea they went with.
@@KariIzumi1 The director of the film Kevin Lima said( I didn't want Tarzan to sing, I couldn't imagine this half naked man singing. I thought it be too ridiculous )Now to be fair Tarzan can't speak English very well. So how about have the actors sing without the characters singing out loud.
A good example is ( Something There) from Beauty and the Beast.
There's no subtle way to put it. Your taste is terrible lol
Such a great movie. I watched it endlessly as a kid and watched it recently as an adult. Still funny as ever!
Man, now I want to go watch it again. The comedic beats were really ahead of its time, and you can see it all over the place now.
First time in a long time I’ve watched a TH-cam channel that actually deserved a thumbs up… this video was fantastically produced.. please excuse me while I go binge everything else you’ve done
Glad you enjoyed it!
Ever since the very start I've wanted nothing more from Disney than for them to finally make Empire of the Sun a reality. My favourite film from childhood is The Prince of Egypt, and I feel like Empire of the Sun would have be a fantastic response from Disney as a more serious drama brought to life in a culture vastly different from that of Europe and America. Sadly, I don't believe that the Disney we have today can create a film that would live up to what the original idea for the film would have been, but I still hope I get to see it one day.