IDRIVEACLASSIC reviews: pre-war Standard Nine (Standard Cars)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 พ.ค. 2021
- Today's video is a follow up to the Standard 10...with this incredible Standard 9!
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One of the things people told me before uploading the Standard video was that there was no interest in pre war cars…or at least very little, but with so many of you loving that Standard 10, I brought forward the Standard 9 for a little bit more pre war love.
Remember if you haven’t already, check out that Standard 10 video for a fuller history on Standard Cars.
Roger’s Standard 9 we’re looking at is a little more pre loved than his 10, but at nearly 100 years old, I think we can forgive a blemish or two.
The Standard 9 was the little sister of the 10 which we tested last week and was the smallest car in the Standard range when it came to market.
To the untrained eye, many of the features are similar but once we begin looking a little closer you begin to notice the differences.
The 9 used the same front and rear axle as the 10, but has a shorter two door body and a smaller engine.
New for 1935, the Standard 9 now came as a 4 door variant which was more closely related to that 10 we looked at last week.
Although we are lucky and get that synchro on the top three gears, we lose the free wheel and automatic restart.
As you’ll see inside, although the car looks similar from the outside to the 10, it’s really once we’re seated inside the car that we begin to notice some of the stark differences.
Gone is the wood and window louvres and although we have leather seats in this particular 9, that’s because it’s a deluxe. I believe the standard, no pun intended, was cloth. Can only imagine how that will have held up after all this time!
Unlike the 10, only the drivers seat is adjustable and the passenger seat lifts to allow access to the rear seating area.
The only real upgrade on this car are the lights which have been fitted with adaptor rims, which were available as an upgrade to the dip and switch system in the 50s, to take the British pre-focus double dip head lights. Seeing as that was put onto the car the best part of 70 years ago, it somehow seems madness to call it an upgrade or imply it modernises the car!
As mentioned, the box on this is 4 forward speed and synchro on the top three forward gears. Engine is the same as the little nine with a two bearing crank, meaning it’s very compact for a 1052cc engine. It is of course side valve and interesting fact, the rubber mountings were updated to flat blocks for 1935, which set a pattern used for decades after the nine was launched.
I’ll also add we’ve got cable brakes and no boot - hence that snazzy little fold down rack!
Peak power on this is 25 brake horse power and came advertised with a top speed of 58 miles per hour - but as you’ll see when we’re driving - high 30s feels as fast as you’d want to push the car! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
The older I get the more I appreciate these old cars.
I don't know how you do it Steph but your channel seems to get the most interesting and diverse classics.
She needs to tell people to like and subscribe.
How can you not love a pre war motor car? Lovely stuff.
Agreed x
People saying that there isn't any interest in pre-war cars. They can speak for themselves but they shouldn't assume everyone elses interests.
I love seeing pre-war cars and always happy to watch any content about them.
Honestly it’s a common misconception x
@@idriveaclassic true 🤔😁
I know that Mick Fleetwood has a collection of cars including an Austin 7. 6'5" tall and driving an Austin 7, he must really love it.
@@williamhumberhawk8187 Let's hope it's a convertible to see over the windscreen ;-)
I also love to see videos on pre-war cars. There is so much content out there on post-war cars that I feel people forget about pre-war cars, when really, they're far more interesting - there was so much diversity pre-war. And because there are relatively few left, and they aren't seen out and about so much, these videos are the only way we get to learn more about them. Not to mention that all the survivors seem to have a unique story to tell.
Hi Steph I love these old girls they have so much character. This takes me back to the days of James Herriot Veterinarian whipping through the Yorkshire mores rushing to save a farmers cow. Those windscreen tightening knobs are very similar to the knobs that attach the side windows on an MGA. Everything was so simple back then so much less to go wrong. 👍
This is so very different from American cars from the same era. I love the cars and your presentation.
I love pre war cars Steph well done thoughly enjoyed it , would love to see a model T on the channel
Working on it 😂
@@idriveaclassic That would be a 'mare to drive, but it's on my bucket list. The only Ford that has my full attention.
@@idriveaclassic People are idiots - tell them to like and subscribe. Love your media, and have liked and subscribed!
The company dropped the 'Standard' name and used only the 'Triumph' marque in the early sixties because the word 'Standard' had changed its meaning over time. Originally 'Standard' meant THE standard that others were measured by as in ';setting the standard'. In the 1960s, 'standard' came to mean the most basic version of a car - hence the move to the Triumph name..... :-)
That is very interesting.
the name lives on in India with the SD1
@@Banom7a Anything to do with the Rover (1980s) of the same name?
I'm definitely interested in pre war cars. You always make your videos interesting. I don't see why anything should be off limits.
Ah thank you Matt x
There's a lot to love with pre-war cars. Most of them are very small, they're not that expensive, they're designed to be worked on at home with limited tools, and since you're not realistically going to be taking it on the motorway the lack of speed isn't an issue. People always love to see pre-war cars even when they're not into cars, but the prospect of ownership can be quite daunting. Best thing to do is jump in and find out really, and as your Standard videos have proven, they really aren't that scary and packed full of charm.
I must say what an absolute pleasure it was to have you review my old Standards. Thanks Steph!
I own a 1937 Lanchester La14. The styling of the 1930s cars are great, always loved them
Great to see pre-war cars being featured. My grandfather had an Austin 12/4 many years ago. And my father had a pair of Austin 16/6's when he started driving. A lot of people were still buying pre-war cars over here in NZ after the war as they were plentiful and affordable. And suited narrow roads I suppose.
My father sold his 16/6's many years ago around 1950. Not long before he died in 2011 he managed to track them down and view them. He had always wondered what happened to them. He never managed to find his father's 12/4 but he always wondered what happened to it too. A lot of early cars when finished with ended up on farms or in factories and became parts of machinery or trailers and boats.
Good to see another kiwi here.
This is an era of cars that I have absolutely no interest in. Absolutely loved it. Cracking little car. Thanks for opening my eyes. Nice one Steph. 👍
Thank you for coming into it open minded x
The first car I remember my Dad owning back in the late 1950's was a 1937 Standard Flying 9, it took the whole family Mum Dad 3 kids and the dog on many holidays from Essex to Cornwall, happy days in a super little car. I even remember the number plate FEV824
A clockwork triangle of Doom ! Reason enough to want on these gorgeous little cars, the great grandfather of my Vitesse 👍
love it ! i want more of these prewars . Not enough of them on the net and i have a craving for more and then add some...Of course Im not objectiv since i have a Morris minor -34. ....If you ever come to Gotland (Sweden) Id love you to try it out, Steph !
Another entertaining and enjoyable video Steph. Would love to see a Standard Ensign but not sure there are many around these days if any. From memory, and I'm sure others may have more knowledge than me, many Ensigns went for duty with the RAF.
Your videos always perk me up! Thank you dear heart!
It always makes my day when I find another IDAC video. Love the research you share with us Steph!
What a lovely video. I just adore how you feature each car and provide a history of it's existence.
Another enjoyable and informative video Steph. Please take care of yourself and stay safe x
So nice to see this video as my late father's first car was a 1935 Standard 9.
Whoever told you there's no interest in pre-war cars has clearly never seen one, they're beautiful
Or driven or built one (which you still can do for now) ! Some of us are trying to educate the masses. It's a real driving experience as you need to be totally engaged and in tune with the machine and fully aware of everything around you.
I started off with Capris, but as time goes on, I tend to be ONLY interested in pre-war cars. Growing up on Genevieve and Gumdrop couild have something to do with it.
@@dcarbs2979 Same with me, my cars keep getting older. The next one will have to be Edwardian the rate I am going. TH-cam doesn't really promote pre-war cars much unfortunately, it's all about supercars these days. Am I the only old car person who doesn't really like Genevieve? I'll watch it but really the (human) characters are all pretty awful people.
@@asciimation After owning a Ferrari as a learning car, that class of car no longer appeals. All about speed and one-upmanship. If it's not the fastest, what's the point? Having a ride in my hero car (F40) also helped put off supercars and onto grand tourers then limousines and hearses. These are all individual and rarer than the supercars. Preferring cars that can't even do 60mph, let alone get there in 3 seconds :-)
I liked Kenneth More as a kid seeing him in Reach For The Sky and Night To Remember. Grew to like Dinah Sheridan in time too. Also being in Sussex, both are local to me (Gumdrop being a real car from Bosham)
"But nearly a hundred years old I think we can forgive a blemish or two ! " 😂😃😂😃😂😃😂😃😂😃😂😃
Really enjoying having a look at these beautiful cars.
Hi Steph, thnk s for bringing this beauty to us. I love these pre war cars. Unfortunately you only ever see them at car shows these days. It’s fantastic that you’re bringing them to us.
Brilliant presentation as always and well researched. I love the diversity from week to week. Already looking forward to see what next week brings. Enjoy the rest of the your weekend
Lovely old car, nice to see it running. Enjoyed both this and the Standard 10 videos. Thank you.
I love the varied content on this channel, there is something about a older car that I find intresting, the stories behind them, the owners stories. And I really enjoyed this video Steph, it's a great looking car.
Very cute Standard 9 Steph great piece of 1930's motoring
The wiper mechanism is truly brilliant. Clockwork.
How delightful! A lovely drive in a lovely classic, and I enjoyed it very much.
Loving the Pre-war cars, keep up the great videos 👌
Fantastic video Steph
Absolutely delightful car , such a joy to watch thank you
What a lovely survivor this car is. Good job finding this one Steph. Love your channel and greetings from Canada!
Wind up wiper, wow! And I thought vacuum wipers were interesting!
What a lovely little car! I love these gentle pre-war cars. Just the thing for a tootle in the countryside with the tarmac humming under the crossply tyres. I would like to have a drive in one, but a cracking video is the next best thing. My dear old Dad taught me to double declutch years ago, still do it occasionally in my modern car totally unnecessarily! Thanks for my Sunday treat, Steph!
Another lovely old car - looks amazingly similar to my old Morris Eight - although the Morris had 'posh' hydraulic brakes at a a time when most used cables. Love it!
My Morris eight 's brakes failed me while driving down a steep hill, outside the Bristol aeroplane company, in 1958, as crowds of worker's were coming out. I tried to mount a cycle pathway to avoid a collision, As the kerb was exceptionally high, the car bounced back off the kerb, sending me up the sloping back of a halted, posh Armstrong Sapphire. This eventually threw me and my Morris 8, onto the cycle track. Luckily no cyclists were on it. As I had just passed my driving test and bought the car, It was not a good experience.
@@MrDaiseymay Wow - that sounds hairy.......
@@MrDaiseymay - That's because the car was 20 years old by then. By that point if it is going to remain on the road all of the brake line tubing should be removed and replaced with new, because it ages and pits and sudden or severe pressure can cause weak spots to burst... as you discovered... and you're not the only one it's happened to. And you mean it was not an enjoyable experience... it was certainly a good one, because I am sure it taught you a lot in that very brief but terror stricken span.
you are one lucky lady, Steph, getting to drive all these wonderful and interesting cars. this is by far the most interesting classic car channel on TH-cam
Great review as normal Steph, so glad you are doing your part in creating the interest to a new generation of these beautiful old cars that are so affordable and can be run on a shoestring, holding their own financially as well as generating a huge social scene at rallies or going out into the country for a family picnic.Just the car for going down to the village shop for a loaf of bread or a few fancy cakes in a paper bag . ' Eco ' motoring at is best !.
What a nice little car. I'd be very happy to see more pre-war cars, since it's your take on them we like as much as the cars themselves.
Maybe the mic and camera are not fully capturing all the idiosyncrasies of the car, but it comes across as being very smooth and quiet, not least considering it's age. Great little review Steph.
Thanks steff so much these cars as are beautiful 😍
My father had one of those heated window defrost units it was fitted to our Vauxhall’s Velox of the 1950s .
I love those prewar cars just can’t get enough of them, it’s not just the charm it’s the history step by step you wouldn’t have the cars of today without these old lady’s. Thank you keep up the good work
What a lovely little car, it looks like it might be quite cozy with two adults in the front especially if they were my size, but I do love these slightly care worn cars, its their little blemishes and worn patches that give them character. I think the fact that people thought you wouldn't get much interest in pre-war stuff says a lot for your presenting style too, as yuou are obviously getting people hooked, but this is an era of motoring that really interests me.
Another good one Steph, I'm not so keen on the really old cars but it's good to see ordinary cars and vans from 1930s onwards. You always seem to come up with interesting things.😊👍
Hi Steph - you've done it again ! Cracking video and what a lovely little car. My Grandads old Austin had one of those little Lucas keys ! Also, we had a 1936 Citroen 12 - bigger than a Rosalie, and that had clockwork windscreen wipers :-). Take care always :-) X X
Great one! I'm looking at maybe getting something similar myself
Whata sweet car! Thanks Steff!
Great video. In the early post war years there were loads of pre war cars still running around to a young petrol head they were commonplace and more interesting than the newer cars that were beginning to appear .
What a lovely old lady she is. So glad you shared her with us. Thanks
Glad you explained the demister, as I saw where it plugs in on the 10 and thought it was a pair of phono connectors, which really doesn't make sense in a car with no radio.
Haha no headset needed 😂
Great video Steph, one good point if you have only the one wiper there is no triangle of doom lol.
Very nice. Thank-you!
A very interesting video, thank you.
Once again IDC lives up to its name. Well done Steph! IDC brings class and dignity to all.
Thank you and God bless
Another chapter of motoring history told in a heartwarming way cheers. Hoping you get a model T or similar to compare to the standards.
I haven't heard ignition static on an audio device in a long time (my 1986 Ford with points and a CB radio did it).
Took my little two-seater 1932 Morris Minor down around the Cotswolds a few days ago. 80 miles without an issue. 1200 miles since December, with only one breakdown... I ran out of petrol!! haha
What a fine, tidy and cosy little car.
Great video Steph! I hope you can get Roger on a video. He's got some great cars, and 'i bet he's a fascinating guy. This video has me on car and classic, looking at Standards... ;-)
Love these older cars with their quirky features ❤️
Lucky girl to drive such a car. Thanks for sharing the experience
Absolutely love these 1930's cars - nothing exotic but the sort of thing doctors and vicar would have driven. That exhaust note was great with headphones on! Really appreciate the research you put in so the mix of history and your natural enthusiasm makes for a great video.
I am happy with what you offer on your channel. Continue like this, I hope to meet you in reality 🥰🥰
This lady of a certain age is a sweetheart, the practical spinster aunt as opposed to the grand dame Ten from last week, but absolutely lovely in her own quiet way. The clockwork wiper was a real eye opener! Never heard of such a thing. Great video, as usual!
The wiper mechanism is absolutely bonkers (I am the owner b.t.w.) Not actually clockwork but it feels like that because it doesn't start on its own. Once you have moved the wiper out of its parked position you have to pull out that black knob and spin it to get it started. Bit of a fiddle, then you get one wipe every 10 seconds or so.
Wow! Thanks for your reply! I love your car. I like to say we are all the sum of our quirks. Your Standard, therefore, has personality in spades!
Very interesting indeed. I love seeing the pre-war cars. Nobody pays them much attention. I've seen some on TV, of course. All Creatures Great And Small used some. I have always been intriguing and curious. Well done indeed!
Such a lovely car!
What a lovely video!
If you close your eyes you can see people going for a Sunday drive in the pre war era in these cars, where speeds of 30-40 mph were adequate because motorways weren't invented yet and life in general had a slower pace.
I now know why in old movies they keep on turning the wheel from side to side, it is because they were really so floppy in steering!
Still wondering how long the clockwork wiper will work before it needs to be wound up again.
Steph, your videos are always just so good! I was amused by your comment about the portable defroster falling and burning you. I'd be concerned about that too, as even my portable GPS with a modern suction cup has fallen multiple times and sometimes that happens on a single trip.
The wiper motor is interesting, as I thought that it was powered by winding only, however, I see that there is wiring going to it. I would say that the wiper motor is very small for minimal electric draw and requires a sort of clock spring to keep it going. More on that, if you would.
The windshield hardware for opening/closing that is the same as those on American made boats for forward facing windows. This type of bracketry was installed for decades here, however I've never seen these for autos.
Something unusual to me here is the rear view mirror being dash mounted. I only know of use in that location on late 1950's, early 1960's Chrysler products. In fact the first video I'd found of yours was the yellow/white 1960 Plymouth and I'm sure the rear view mirror in that was dash mounted. That reminds me to say- So glad to have discovered you Steph!
I like these Standard's, yes, the ten was better, but you moved along very well with this nine. Thank you once again.
Love looking at these old cars especially when you drive them. The only thing missing is that lovely leather smell you get inside them.
I love pre war cars. It's so good to see something different from the usual 60's to 90's cars that I usually prefer.
Fantastic vídeo, what a beautiful car, and the sound of that horn it kind me remember the one that the child cartoon Noddy has on its car jajaja.
Love your videos Steph. 30 mph looked like 100
Love the pre wars! 😊
I love the wipers!
I know what you mean about 2 doors are often better than 4. I had a 4 door Morris Minor and the doors were small. 2 door much easier getting in and out. Gorgeous little car.
Looks like something James Herriot would have driven in the Dales. Love it!
Love the pre war cars. What a sweetie of a thing. 😊👍
Lovely,carefree,simple driving.It's what we need.
Nice one steph
I prefer the "over the shoulder" filming whilst you're driving. It shows the view that a passenger would have got and we can still hear you voice.
The car is amazing and so are you 😎
I know virtually nothing about pre-war cars except the common ones and I'm finding these videos very interesting. I'm quite surprised at how easy they seem to be to drive, although keeping and repairing them can't be an easy exercise.
Another winner!
Thank you x
The name Standard derives from a ceremonial flag (the Royal Standard always flies when the Queen is in residence), rather than "bog-standard" or ordinary. When Standard and Triumph merged to become Standard-Triumph the Standard name was quietly dropped in favour of the more aspirational sounding Triumph.
Thx and oldi but a goodie 😊👍🚗
Although it's the model below the 10, I'd happily use either as a daily driver.
I remember when I was in the cubs and I went on a camping trip in Pickering in Yorkshire. Unfortunately I fell in a Wasps nest and got badly stung. A very pretty young girl drove me home in a similar car. It was very different to my father Wolesly 6/90
You could buy these cars for £5 or £10 and many of the young trendy young women of the time bought them as their daily cars.
Nice to see some of them surviving and in good hands. I vaguely remember something about Double Decutching ? Would that be difficult with a fierce clutch ?
I'm _only_ interested in pre-War cars! Keep it up!
The screw on the spare doesn't look up to scratch 😃😂😃😂😃😂
The Standard Motor Company was the company which made the Triumph cars we all remember, like the Herald, Spitfire, TR series and so on. Triumph did not survive the war years and went bust. Standard bought the brand and moved production to the Standard factory. At first they built 2 distinct ranges of Triumph and Standard cars. Eventually they decided to rationalise their range and dumped the Standard brand because they felt the name Triumph was more appealing to potential buyers. After all Standard sounds like bog standard, i.e. something that does not stand out from the crowd. Triumph sounds like a win - win.
Lovely
Interesting car. There is one thing that I'm kind of curious about. When you were inside the 9, it looked like that car had a 'sun roof' Did the standard 9 (and the 10) have a sun roof? Just wondering. Great series BTW!
Yes, there's a sliding sun-roof in this car; they were a common feature in saloon cars of the 1930s when the majority of the population smoked (usually heavily!) and the sunroof provided very necessary ventilation!
I must admit it's a very nice car👌 , is it a lot more narrow than the 10 , or can I just not remember anyway I like it 👍and you look good in it me thinks 😉
Thanks carl
Even this quite basic car is a hundred times more stylish than than today's boxes!
So true
awwww ffs, who doesnt like old cars or/and prewar cars. they must be numpties. gotta be. bloody choice steph. i love all ur videos. xxxxx new zealand here.
Lovely car, one of the things I’ve learned is advice from social media is made up of a smaller demographic than the watchers of TH-cam. Not a criticism just an observation. Carry on your films are eminently watchable.