I MADE A MISTAKE...😖 LOW BUDGET VS HIGH BUDGET UPDATE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- The low budget vs high budget experiment is now almost 3 weeks old, and both tanks are not looking very good...
Ep #1 • CHEAP AQUARIUM💰 VS EXP...
Previous experiments:
Aquasoil vs Dirt • AQUASOIL VS DIRT
CO2 vs no CO2 • CO2 vs NO CO2 experiment
Everything I'm using for this project:
HIGH BUDGET TANK
TANK: 36p rimless optic white tank
(US) amzn.to/37M97h3
(EU) amzn.to/3k0uhO5
LIGHT: Skylight AQI 40
bit.ly/3rrFwnZ
FILTER: Dennerle Scapers Flow
(US) amzn.to/3AKak50
(EU) amzn.to/3slWGC1
CO2: Strideways Pro Regulator
(US) amzn.to/3AWKnjQ
(EU) www.azaqua.nl/co2-systemen/st...
DIFFUSER
(US) amzn.to/3t0Unoc
(EU) amzn.to/3BQUDJE
AQUASOIL
(US) amzn.to/2WVLoZR
(EU) amzn.to/3DWT92o
LOW BUDGET TANK
LIGHT: Twinstar 30b
(US) amzn.to/3J2pExV
(EU) amzn.to/3Hslj73
FILTER: cheap internal filter
(US) amzn.to/3gkGsE8
(EU) amzn.to/3oqUSHn
POND SOIL
(US) amzn.to/3EWBqbd
(EU) amzn.to/3D2iRSl
SHRIMP GRAVEL BLACK
(US) amzn.to/3CUcrER
(EU) amzn.to/3BStnu8
ROCKS
amzn.to/38KAJDN
WOOD
amzn.to/3DVAowz
GLUE (gel)
(US) amzn.to/3wsl1rU
(EU) amzn.to/308joUp
GLUE (liquid)
(US) amzn.to/3ofpKJZ
(EU) amzn.to/3EVDYGA
FULL PLANT LIST:
Foreground
- Micranthemum tweediei (MONTE CARLO)
- Marsilea hirsuta
Midground
- Vesicularia ferriei
- Hygrophila lancea Araguaia
- Micranthemum umbrosum
Background
- Rotala rotundifolia Orange Juice
- Ludwigia repens
Floating plants
- Phyllanthus fluitans
All plants are from Dennerleplants
#plantedtank #aquascape #mjaquascaping
I'm definitly voting for the Low Budget tank! What about you guys? 😬
Everything I'm using for this project:
HIGH BUDGET TANK
TANK: 36p rimless optic white tank
(US) amzn.to/37M97h3
(EU) amzn.to/3k0uhO5
LIGHT: Skylight AQI 40
bit.ly/3rrFwnZ
FILTER: Dennerle Scapers Flow
(US) amzn.to/3AKak50
(EU) amzn.to/3slWGC1
CO2: Strideways Pro Regulator
(US) amzn.to/3AWKnjQ
(EU) www.azaqua.nl/co2-systemen/st...
DIFFUSER
(US) amzn.to/3t0Unoc
(EU) amzn.to/3BQUDJE
AQUASOIL
(US) amzn.to/2WVLoZR
(EU) amzn.to/3DWT92o
LOW BUDGET TANK
LIGHT: Twinstar 30b
(US) amzn.to/3J2pExV
(EU) amzn.to/3Hslj73
FILTER: cheap internal filter
(US) amzn.to/3gkGsE8
(EU) amzn.to/3oqUSHn
POND SOIL
(US) amzn.to/3EWBqbd
(EU) amzn.to/3D2iRSl
SHRIMP GRAVEL BLACK
(US) amzn.to/3CUcrER
(EU) amzn.to/3BStnu8
ROCKS
amzn.to/38KAJDN
WOOD
amzn.to/3DVAowz
GLUE (gel)
(US) amzn.to/3wsl1rU
(EU) amzn.to/308joUp
GLUE (liquid)
(US) amzn.to/3ofpKJZ
(EU) amzn.to/3EVDYGA
Team Low Budget!
Of course, don't we all go for the underdog?
Yeah, plants are taller in high budget, but they look healthier (aside from the carpet) in the low budget.
I think they are both looking pretty good! Perhaps in a future update you could tall about the overall difference in color between the two, which I assume is the light and not the plants themselves? The high budget looks much more "blue" green vs the more yellow-green appearance of the plants in the low budget setup. The reds also look quite different, just curious!
Same here. I even like the more yellowish color over the high budget light color.
I love your calm attitude about the algae buildup in both tanks - that is a lesson in itself! I would freak out, but you have a very level-headed 'let's just work the problem' attitude. A brown algae monster, then, after the clean up...all good. Excellent class in the calmness of aquascaping.
Seeing mistakes are often more useful than seeing success stories. And there is even more value in seeing how someone takes a mistake and turns it into success.
Don't be embarrassed to show your mistakes, embrace them as a learning experience.
So long as a channel is putting out sound information, I'm happy to commend there efforts. And your channel is a great example of someone who is passionate about the hobby, and who tries to provide useful information. Keep up the good work Sir, and best of luck with your tank trial.
I kinda like the yellowish light from low budget tank, it adds some sort of tone texture
I agree!
Hey MJ I really love your channel and have recommended several of my friends to it. I was wondering if you could do an experiment of "CO2+Low light" versus "High Light with no CO2" to see if CO2 or Light is the limiting step? Another follow-up experiment might be to compare "High Light for 6 hours+CO2" versus "Low Light for 9 hours+CO2" to see if a longer duration of low light can compensate for lack of high light. If we can overcome the expensive cost of lighting by using longer periods of budget lights + CO2, it will help with aquascaping using the Biorb and Fluval tanks that look nice but typically comes with poor lighting and very few options to upgrade.
I really appreciate how much effort you put into these comparison videos! 😄 Love it
Thanks bud!
The other reason that made me love this channel more is that all translations are available in all languages❤💜
I’m rooting for the low budget as well!! I am biased though I only have lower budget tanks.
I would be really curious to see what the tanks look like at the end with the lights swapped, or potentially just with the same light on both tanks? Only for color comparison! It would be interesting to see the coloring variations in the plants between the two tanks after they have grown in different setups.
Thanks MJ….very interesting to see the differences.. I appreciate your channel
Thanks for always watching and commenting Thomas!
How crazy is that! I was expecting a huge difference! 😳
Iv like to see the difference between fast growing setup versus a healthy growing low budget setup.
I'm not looking to do more maintenance just have a healthy planted aquarium. Healthy growth with less trimming. Great video 👍
as of me... regardless if it is high or low budget... the thing is one should be able to still enjoy aquascaping.
great content.
Thanks for showing the algae explosion. Great video 👍
I love the experiment idea! The low budget light seems to be giving off more red light..which could explain the better growth for your alternanthera reineckii?
Also, are you run ing ferts in these tanks? Just curious. They're looming good 👌🏽
MJ
Would be interesting to understand the light demand of the plants.
Cheers Richard
Great video series and I'm inspired to do something similar in the nano reef aquarium space
Awesome mate! Looking forward to it!
There's no real way to avoid backflow on a CO2 line, you must use a checkvalve. This happens because CO2 inside the difusser and line will start dissolving into aquarium water. So pressure inside the line will start to drop and draw aquarium water. You could install your checkvalve closer to the tank or even closer to the diffuser to limit the amount of backflow.
I love the method, but I'd be interested to see the same experiment done with the same light source, of the variables you have selected lighting is the only one that cannot be improvised. I can male a filter and co² system on the cheap buy I can make a light
Love this. Low budget for the win!
I have a low budget light atm, curious what you would need to do if you changed to a better high light setup. Slowly increase the light over time? Or can you just increase cow n ferts?
Yeah I would slowly increase the photo period or light intensity
ouch! that was hard to watch on the low budget tank. AR mini - - darn near gone...ohhhh that stings....
fingers crossed for the LBT!!!!
Que bien aprendemos contigo! Es verdad que no hay muchísima diferencia entre uno y otro, pero el color de la pantalla de altos requerimientos es de otro nivel, el otro se ve muy amarillo. Un saludo!
I have been waiting for this from centuries
It has been forever since u have made "vs" vedio
Nice aquascape plants 👍🏻
Ive been out of the hobby for 6+ years now so my info is out of date. But for checkvalves I was always a fan of the stainless steel metal check valves, and I think a uk company co2art? sells some kind of nice push inline one as well. I think the metal ones can be found on amazon under metal aquarium co2 check valves.
Awesome! I think someone else just recommended the same ones www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XZPGYK4
Dayum that "trimming" is brutal haha, someone pressed the RESET button lol
😁😁
Real nice video MJ!
I’m in the midst of staring my first own (nano) aqua scape tank and just don’t know what to buy. Videos like these are super helpful in terms of what a realistic total cost it is.
Are there any specific stores / websites you recommend in the Netherlands for aquarium things? Where I live there seems to be zero aquarium stores.
Thanks in advance (in case you do see this comment on a year old video)
Fijne middag!
It s good experiment too- no matter how much money you ll throw you still need to maintenance well
Some plants that are exposed to more intense light grow shorter, and when exposed to less intense light they grow taller becase they are searching for more light. So the reinecki actually is doing better in the high budget tank.
Hi. Double ADA Check Valves. I am using that for years - no problems at all.
Salut mark, cette expérience es vraiment intéressante mais faut que tu fasses sur plus de temps. Car moi aussi j'avais fait cela mais pas avec le même matériel. Et tu seras surpris du résultats à la fin. En tout cas comme d'habitude t'es vidéos sont un plaisir à regarder. A bientôt
Entièrement d'accord! Il faudra quelques mois avant que nous puissions obtenir les meilleurs résultats avec le réservoir à petit budget
I always like what you do, big thanks and courage !
About this experiment how do you plan to get rid of the staghorn/bba ? Same on the two tanks ?
With the trimming session I removed most of it already, and I think once the plants start growing again they will cover the algae, and it will die by itself. If not I will dose some ''liquid co2''
@@MJAquascaping ok, very excited to see your next video then… and see what will happen ;-)
I think you just have to move the check valve above the difuser so there is no siphon pressure bringing water down.
great content!
Danke.
Belle experience 👍
Great video - really intriguing!
Can I ask how you manage to maintain consistent pressure in your DIY CO2 system?
I can never quite get it to build up enough to run through a diffuser - I've resorted to placing the end of the tubing in the mouth of the water pump intake. As the bubbles come out they get sucked through the impellor and out into the tank - so they end up very fine but at surface level.
I imagine it's a combination of ensuring the system is air-tight, the tubing isn't over-long and the diffuser isn't too deep under water. Any ideas?
Love your channel btw
Yeah it has to be really air tight otherwise you don't get enough pressure for a regular diffuser. I think that's what matters the most.
@@MJAquascaping Thanks!
Where did you buy that attachment you use on your hose for water changing? The bent plastic that hangs on the rim of the tank. I cant find it online.
It's the inflow from the JBL e702 external filter 😊
I am going to make a new tank (dragon stones, dragon woods, Sachem fluorite, Ada starter powders, etc) My question: do you suggest to use carbon in the external filter for the first month?
They both look good, even though the low budget is looking better at the moment, I think that has to do with nutrients in the water column. As well as light intensity.
Yep totally agree 😊
Co2 art check valves are ace
Can you do a control group tank versus a excel double dose tank! I’m so curious!
Personally I think the best low budget tank are also low light tanks. Filling out with anubias and java fern and other low light low nutrient plants. The scape is meant to sit for sometime to grow in.
I cant pick between the yet. I need a little more time. I do like the gravel in the low budget tank though.
I think you are thinking more "low tech" than "low budget" as this tank still has CO2 and fertilizers and everything. It's just achieved at a much lower cost.
Great video Mark-Jan!
When you are working with a new tank and fresh aquasoil, do you use any liquid fertilizers? How long do you normally wait before starting to use fertilizers?
I once had a crazy green hair algae outbreak and i'm now wondering if its because I was dosing too many ferts while my aquasoil was leeching lots of nutritients.
Thank you James! Yeah I usually wait 3-4 weeks before dosing liquid fertilizers. Sometimes I start a little earlier, but then it's just potassium and maybe some micro nutrients.
@@MJAquascaping Thanks a lot for the advice. It's really appreciated :)
Ik zie na de schoonmaaktbeurt nog behoorlijk wat bruinalg slierten in beide bakjes. Het is vergelijkbaar met mijn bak momenteel. Wat is je ervaring met het verloop? Wordt het vanzelf minder in combinatie met goed onderhoud?
Wow... that twin star light is listed at $34US in the original. $45 today...big jump in 3-4 weeks 😔
I guess they saw the videos and raised prices 😂
I'm still sticking with my original comment that both tanks will do equally well. But we shall see .... Thanks for the update.
What brand algae scraper is that? I cant seem to find a short one like that.
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Un my experience growth will be slow and colors will be low and less bushy in low budget. Otherwise over time it's all the same. But that's challenge is exiting
MJ on vacation = new algae video!
True 😁
Put the check valve at the rim of the tank
High budget looks better for me. The nice carpet, vibrant greens, "invisible" substrate. Low budget has too much yellowish discoloration and visible gravel. But I wouldn't pay the price difference.
The only issue with low budget aquarium is the light sucks... You could diy a light with bettr color
Hey MJ, comes there a video about the iwagumi at your back?
Very soon! 😎
Great Video
Thanks!
What do you use to clean the dust algae of the glass?
Filter wool or filter floss some people call it
@@MJAquascaping I used the razor scraper and the Albert heijn dish cleaning sponge and both have left scratches on my glass and I am now too afraid to clean. Does filter wool work against tough algae stains? I have a bag of it that I bought from Intratuin so its not branded. Really looking for a sth that can remove hard algae (Spot / dust) off the glass without scratching it. :(
Can low nitrates promote green dust algae? I have a no co2 tank, and the no2 are always 0 and no3 are always low (
I think nitrates are the main culprit for GDA, and even if your nitrates are very low, they will still appear. Reducing your light intensity also helps
@@MJAquascaping ty vm for your answer. will adding co2 help with this? I'm considering buying a co2 system just to get read of it. Also what beginner plants will fight the algae for the nutrients. Cause my plants seem to lack some nutrients (leaves at the bottom are melting on on both my Ludwigia Repens and bacopa caroliniana) but the gda is doing great, and now I'm afraid to add macro nutrients to avoid helping the algae more ...
Team low budget , mark i have one question your 10 litre dennerle tank that has the clown killie how did you manage to grow the hydroctyle trupartita emersed ?
That cube used to have a small HOB filter, so I placed a few cuttings on the sponge of the HOB and they started growing like crazy from there.
Wow 😁 thanks for the reply and answer keep up the good work😎
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For those who are on a budget and dont wanna buy External/Canister filter .
.can try this DIY canister filter
here is the link
th-cam.com/video/cruEKC8WTDM/w-d-xo.html
Hydrogen peroxide works well with defusers.
take the co2art chck valve work for me
What Glass scraper is that?
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For the Price points, low budget wins by a landslide!
amazing
I don't think they compare at all any more. High budget looks a thousand times better. Hopefully they'll even out a little, but at this point it's not close.
The diffuser in the high budget tank got clogged, so the pressure you have initially set the needle valve could not push the co2 anymore.
the way i am so scare of trimming my plants like that😢😢😢. i feel like it too much and my tank will look like have just been set up
Low budget tank is yellowish and high budget tank is greeny ,the lights♥️
Bro my DIY CO2 system is not doing well ..what should I do ...the large bottle make a bubble ..also the small one...but there's no any bubble out from my diffuser
your diffuser must be too big/the ceramic is thick and it makes to much resistance since you don’t have to much pressure from the yeast-sugar system.
Took me 2 days before there was enough pressure buildup, you can try mixing the yeast solution now by swirling the bottle
@@apfeln how to I make a high pressure sugar and yeast ...add more sugar or less sugar or more yeast or less yeast
@@libratv2351 sorry i didn’t see you replied. You cannot build up enough with sugar and yeast. you need at least 1,5 bar. you can use a cigarette filter put into a 4/6 hose but you need to change it regularly. i recommend you to buy a citric acid and baking soda kit it’s like 15-20eur on ebay/ali
@@apfeln it's okay ...it already being good ... I tried to use another way and it work ..btw thank to u
The check valves I use are from CO2Art. I've never had a problem with them.
I will check them out thanks!
I was shocked that he added yeast and sugar for it to live on as it is a well known fungas
MJ , where do you live ?
I live a few miles outside of Nacogdoches , Texas . the oldest town in Texas .
I am very close to the Louisiana border and the gulf of Mexico . it is very wooded here , lots of pine and oak trees .
I live in the Netherlands buddy!
@@MJAquascaping I just asked cause you said you had traveled to Germany , and to be honest I thought you lived in Germany .
@@thehairywoodsman5644 Yeah Netherlands and Germany is very similar, kinda wish I would live in Texas though! 😬
bro, try to compare the Co2 tube with co2 citron and soda. if you don't understand co2 citron baking soda, try searching youtube "CO2 CISOD DIY".
THANK YOU FOR RESPONDING
Hello Mark. Excuse me. I know it's very simple. But can You explain a little bit more how si You clean with bleach You difuser? I have the sale fórmula of CO2 with gelatin an ir works fantastic
Basically I just take some warm water, and add some thick bleach. I don't really measure it, but I would say it's 1 part bleach to 10 parts water. Then I soak everything in there, diffusers, lily pipes and so on... after about 15 minutes I take everything out and clean it with fresh water (I don't use any dechlorinator, but I should really) That's it!
@@MJAquascaping thank you very much. Sometimes i see a little jelly in tye difuser. Si that normal?
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You just will not get that lush growth without pressurized co2.
I prefer the low budget tank so far.
me too 😁
to much light duration make dust alge happy 😀
YAYY
New tanks always have algae in the first 2-3 months. It's normal.
low budget didnt perform bad at all ..provided the cost is just 1/4th of high budget
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50 dollar for low tech tank here in nepal
TEAM LOW BUDGET
After I experienced problems with the integrated check valve from the Tropica nano diffusor, I settled on one of these www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XZPGYK4 (Aqua & Co Co² metal Check valve). My experience is that especially these cheap plastic ones often cannot fully prevent, that co² diffuses/draws the water back into the pipe over night. The same goes at least for my bubble counter which also states it has an 'integrated check valve' - yeah that did not age well. The suggested valve is surely a massive thing but I did not want to take any risks of water getting into my co² pressure reducer or near that. Great Video as always, love your pragmatic style
Awesome thank you for the recommendation!