yep Rubedo is the strongest being in Nazarick but I doubt she will betray Ains.. if she was made using a world item, it would very unlikely that Downfall of Castle and Country, a mind controlling world item will work on her.
There's next to no chance she will. She doesn't even listen to Albedo and only takes orders from Ainz directly so needless to say her loyalty is pretty well assured.
There are some other infos about the 8th floor hierachy that are insane if you think about. 1- Aureole Omega is the guardian of the REAL staff of Ainz Ooal Gown, the one Ainz uses is a fake one created by himself to trick enemies. 2- Inside Nazarick someone can't use TPs, Portals and such (only people with the ring of Ainz Ooal Gown AND Aureole Omega). She can control everything, for example create a portal that sends half the people invanding Nazarick from the 5th floor to the 1st floor again quicly, up to dividing their strenghts os putting some high level NPC besides them on an instant wich can break formations 3- The 8th floor guardian is Victim wich he is lvl 35 only (the weakest) but has an insane special when he dies (he is made for getting killed)... That triggers a wide AOE spell that stops everyone from moving, evading, teleporting, defend or attack and last a few minutes. Then Aureole can teleport Rubedo nearby and she massacres everyone. 4- There are a lot of NPCs and Mercenary monster of lvl 90+ on the 8th floor, some of them are even lvl 100 wich makes the floor with the most 100 lvl beigns. 5- "Them" or also refered as "those four" are hinted to be the original 4 raid bosses that defended Nazarick previously it's conquest by the guild, they are above lvl 100 cap and it needs at least 6 lvl 100 players to even beat one of those... They are probably even stronguer than Rubedo, by some infos that Maruyama said, while these 4 weren't the stronguest raid bosses in the game like the 7 deadly sins or the World Devourer Dragon (the last boss). These 4 aren't linked to Ainz Ooal Gown but they are probably setted to defend Nazarick of everyone. 6- When 1500 players and NPCs invaded Nazarick they lost 300 of them up to the 7th floor, the rest of them was eliminated on the 8th floor, some players recordes the invasion on stream but later one they called.the 8th floor a chear and requested the devs to cancel that, but the devs said it wasn't a cheat... The "cheat" was most.likely using raid bosses to defend a guild base, wich was supoosed to be impossible because they can't be controled or moved from the area they defend... The thing is, they aren't. Ainz Ooal Gown created a space for them inside the 8th floor (the tomb they already defended originally wich they didn't moved them) and they aren't bonded to the guild, they most likely can only obey to the one holding the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown or someone sitting on the throne), altought this last bit is uncertain
@@luccavalentinw.fiorini2302 Wow, that's really cool to know, thanks for such an articulate and thorough reply. I was a ware of parts of this but the rest I had no clue. That sounds like a very Ainz thing to do, build their base around raid bosses. Between the debuffs, Aureoles buffs and the world bosses, its no wonder floor 8 was so devastating.
@@shalltearsservants honestly i feel like if she even did albedo being her direct counter (she was designed to be a godlike tank and her armour is designed to have any damage she takes be redirected to it to the point it was made in layers so each individual layer of her armour has a different set of hit points)would be able to at least put a stop to her. Rubedo is only the strongest solely in attack power she is considered to be a glass cannon so for the most part i think anything thats able to withstand her initial attacks should be able to beat her like albedo. The way the sisters are designed are basically to counter/support each other so Rubedo being the DPS Nigredo being the tank/dps and Albedo being the tank its why albedo while extremely powerful would potentially lose to shaltear but shaltear would lose to nigredo or rubedo even tho she is 1v1 oriented their damage output would counter her pipette lances healing.
Touch Me’s ultimate attack the World Break can slash through reality itself. It’s similar to Ainz’s Reality Slash but on a much larger scale. When Sebas fought the six arms, one of them had a title that sounds like Touch Me’s ultimate skill. That actually made him cautious, but the guy turned out to be a weakling and wasn’t anything like his old master.
That's very interesting. I'm sure Touch-Me didn't crutch off of it as much as Ainz does reality slash though. That seems to happen a lot in the new world. Reminds me of when Sebas had to fight "the undead king" when trying to rescue Tuareninya and then Sebas killed him in a single strike because he couldn't hold a candle to Ainz.
in my personnal opinion, this video was very well done. Which is very hard given the complexity of the scaling and the diverging opinions regarding it. Still there is a lot of logic behind the list and I cant contest it, very well done!
@@shalltearsservants it's complex because 80% efficiency is relative when taking into account race buffs, resistances and increased damage against races you counter. If played perfectly, I think it's reasonable to assume he could beat anyone. Let's say that no mater who you are, your enemy although weaker than the original race/class takes 20%+ less dmg and 30%+ more dmg dealt to you, it could be quite annoying to deal with on a 1v1 Appart from that, the tier list is pretty uncontestable
A weird fact actually, TouchMe was nerfed by the author in the LN for some reason(even though he wont be appearing in the series, meaning it doesn't matter how strong he is) The WN TouchMe can take on all floor guardian at the same time and still have somewhat of a chance taking a victory. He's broken as F, now imagine how strong the 1st and 3rd players are.
The power-scaling in this series is ridiculous sometimes which is part of what makes it so fun. 1st strongest must be borderline able to single handedly capture Nazarick now Ainz is the only Supreme Being. That's just insane to think about.
@@shalltearsservants doubt it, maybe in WN non canon, but LN? nah... Can that 1st even beat sebas at the very least? (remember, touch me created him which I assume as strong as him in way and sebas is Ainz butler for a reason)...
That's why its called non canon becuase its bullsh1t... Touch Me vs Ainz... maybe that battle is Like a pay to win vs free to play but both are mallers hahaha... If touch me really is the strongest why the hell she's not the overlord character that could have been esekai? The only reason is he's not fit for it,and Ainz could beat him in a way... That's my justification for ainz title and reason to be chosen as overlord... (despite the obvious fact that he's a loner, and that's why he's the one, becuase that's how esekai stories most of the time 🤣🤣🤣🤣)...
@@vladpete2764 No, the NPC isn't the same as the creator. Some NPC are stronger than the maker, and some are weaker. Touch Me in the LN might not be able to fight all floor guardians at the same time, but he's still able to beat the living skeleton out of Ainz. Despite TouchMe being weakened by the author in the LN, it's still confirmed that he could take on 4 top players at the same time. This isn't just due to his class, but due to his real life reflex and reaction speed. Ainz was the only one who got isekaid because he stayed in the game. Also, TouchMe is good person, and the theme for overlord is that the MC is the villain. Also², ToucMe has a family, so if he was the MC then there'd be no room for romance and stuff.
overlord game mechanics is mostly based on dungeons and dragons especially its magic system, for those that doesnt understand why ulbert is stronger than ainz the basic answer would be that ainz is a utility "wizard" specializing in having as many spells as possible (probably due to role play reason) while ulbert is a dps "sorcerer" who specializes in dealing as much damage as possible and knowing a whole lot less amount of spell preferring to rely on a small selection that could be spammed and such. cooldowns exist in overlord while there is no such mechanics in dnd i would probably translate that mechanics in a sense that sorcerer who gets to cast more spell every rest gets to have faster cooldowns instead hence why i called him dps sorcerer
Very well put. It's also not like Ulbert was typically alone so he could rely on his guildmembers to deal with the lower-tier enemies and only utilise his ridiculous power when he needed to.
Having the highest spell damage doesn't necessarily make you stronger. Even a hit kill doesn't guarantee a win, you still need to ensure your attack connects, just my thoughts
well ulbert is stronger than ainz. since they came from a game ulberts ability to boost his spells are deadly to ainz since ainz cant use time stop on ulbert since he probably have counter on it since its a popular strat in pvp. then ainz barriers wont be able to block the boosted spell and then the spell can go from single target or an aoe in a pvp manner where you cant really run far a boosted aoe or a large single target spell can easily kill due to overpowering the defenses of the opponent.
Naturally it will always depend on the opponent. Someone like Albedo can just transfer the first three attacks to her armour and waste a lot of Ulberts MP but as Zro said, the extent to which his spells are boosted means that defences may not be enough to stop the spell dealing significant damage. It's also not like Ulbert has one attack, yes the MP drain is substantial, but it doesn't mean he has one spell and he's done for the day. You are right that the highest spell damage doesn't automatically make them a better unit, although the author said that Ulbert was stronger than Ainz, and he's sure to have more to his kit than a few high-tier spells.
@@shalltearsservants i didn't read the LN and didn't know the author said that, so i just commented based on games like Dota 2 (haven't played i a long while) where you can fight a stronger opponent by using stuns,silence,blink, reflect damage, limited immunity to magic damage, etc. I don't know all 700+ spells in overlord but im just thinking most technical game's would have counter's or as close to a counter to almost everything especially a game with more than 700 skills and spells not to mention the items in game. Again just my thoughts on it
@@factfiend1000 No, because Ainz can only steal spells. And WORLD DISASTER is a class. It is a hidden class that can only be unlocked when several specific condition is meet. In fact it is similar to Ainz's ECLIPSE class, which give Ainz access to his trump card The Goal of All Life is Death. This skill buff any instant death spells to the point where it bypass all resistance and immunity, and it does not consume any extra mana but it have 90 hour cool down. Ulbert's WORLD DISASTER class give him similar buffing skill that buff all damaging spells. Where Ainz's buff bypass all resistance and immunity, Ulbert's buff overwhelm those. And unlike Ainz's his does not have a cool down instead it cost high amount of mana. So, even if Ainz's steal Ulbert's spells those are the regular version of the spell without the special buff, in fact, I think Ainz probably know majority of Ulbert's, if not all of his spell already, given he knows over 700.
If Rubedo was created using a World Item, then wouldn't that mean that she would have a passive resistance to their effects and , by extension, the effects of Wild Magic? If so then, yeah, based on resistances alone, Rubedo is alredy the strongest being in Nazarick.
It would indeed. Under the same assumption, a lot of the reason Ainz was considering giving the 8th floor Hierarchy world items was to protect them from Rubedos.
Something I like to point out when it comes to PA and I think might've been worth mentioning in this type of list is: he still has 4 forms we know nothing about. Though it's just speculation, if I were a betting man I'd bet at least one of them was a member of the 8th floor hierarchy, or even Rubedo herself (If her nature doesn't prevent him from copying her form). I wonder how far up the list he'd be under that circumstance.
The other possibility is he still hasn't used them. There's a chance that he can't copy the 8th floor hierarchy either as there's no guarantee they're actually NPCs. If Rubedo is meant to be the strongest NPC, and the 8th floor hierarchy are stronger, that raises questions as to their nature. Although it is very true that he could have a hidden ace in those last 4 transformations.
In theory, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to. As the spells cut his HP with every use, there's no guarantee he would ever use them though as it deviates from his usual playstyle.
Thats a good question. In the bonus volume the author did not offer us any information on Ainz being able to use wild magic after killing cure Elim dragonlord.
@@shalltearsservantsif he is able to, that would effectively turn his HP into a second mana bar, if i were a magic caster, i'd never let go of that opportunity because running out of mana effectively means death ether way, these new wild magic spells however would allow one to have a second mana bar, that is if we completly ignore the strategic opportunities such potent magic can open up
Nice summary of the skills, habilities and combat strength, but I have to add something about Mare, and us that in the newest volumen of the light novel (vol 16) in his fight with antilene he show an ability that was granted by his class disciple of disaster, and that is a lesser version of the spell Ulbert could use, Grand catastrophy, although I wouldn't move him up in the list, because despite that ability and his knowledge of resurrection magic against instant death magic, I severely doubt he could defeat shalltear
I'd say it depends whether he's on his own or not. With his minions his danger level increases dramatically, but without them Demiurge is definitely outclassed in terms of range of abilities and stats. Touch-Me and Rubedo are stronger than both Ainz and Demiurge even with prep time, no question about it. Units like Pandora's Actor have comparable intelligence and Shalltear and Mare are just too strong for him, especially as Mare is AoE focused. With adequate prep time, and enough minions, he could probably beat Albedo and those on her power level but anything higher feels like too much of an uphill battle.
I feel like most picks of this list in a 1vs1 context are really accurate in the context of the original game, Yggdrasil but not the new World. Intelligence, experience and tactics are factors that can easily overpower a physically (or magically lol) more powerfull foe. I am pretty sure that for example Demiurge and Albedo both could easily outmaneuver the honest warriortype that Cocytus is. Both are highly intelligent and would quickly find weakpoints to exploid. Thats the reason why Momonga could beat Shalltear, in a head on battle against her a mage build like his stands no chance but his clever use of items and deceptive battle tactics let him win with a wide margin.
I tended to focus on their raw strength more than their intelligence. With Albedo's intelligence, given she was before on-par with Cocytus, can now easily win against him. Demiurge would still have a hard time against Shalltear because of the disparity in their kits but could certainly put up a good fight against some of the weaker NPC's. Especially as Demiurge doesn't have a seemingly never-ending supply of cash-shop items.
@@shalltearsservants Oh you are totally right on that! Sorry if my explanation was a bit lacking, I didnt want to say that for example Demiurge could dominate every Floor Guardian with his supreme intellect, I just wanted to highlight that even a weaker fighter might win against a stronger one given the right strategy. But that goes only *this* far ofc. If their combat abilities are too far removed from each other even the smarter one cannot so anything without outside help. Like you could take the most combat experienced and brilliant human fighter of the new World but he would still be anihilated be even the most mindless Monster that lurks in Nazarick because they are just that strong Especially Shalltear, in my opinion she would dominate pretty much any named being in Nazarick in a 1vs1, aside from Rubedo and the Higher Beings like Momonga, after all her build is carefully crafted for that purpose and she only gets stronger the longer a fight goes on. Anyho, I overall liked your video and reasoning for most placings and Im eager to see more content from you (:
@@marumoru2773 No problem at all. What makes overlord so fun is that there is so much to talk about and discuss about it. You definitely raise a good point, and one I neglected to consider in relation to units like Albedo who are both very strong and intelligent. The mention of Cocytus's honour was particularly relevant although I don't necessarily think he would act as patiently against an enemy that could crush him as he was with Brain. Shalltear is ridiculous though, by normal standards she's beyond op so the fact she loses to multiple beings just speaks to how unbalanced Nazarick's game systems were. I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope to you enjoy future videos :)
Always be aware that the majority of NPCs are meant to by in synergy with either their surroundings or other NPCs. Aura and Mare wouldn't be nearly as powerful alone as they are together.
I don't know if I missed it, but what about Aureole Omega? Isn't she said to be the strongest of the Pleiades maids, which would put her well ahead of Nabe.
There's not a whole lot we actually know about her. We know she is level 100 and fills a commander role. Ainz see's her as an all-rounder and leaves his staff with her when he leaves this tomb, so we can infer she is more powerful. And if a 10-level gap is meant to be nigh-impossible to overcome, the 37 level gap between her and Nabe means she should be a lot stronger. But despite being stronger than Nabe, we don't really know enough to give her a proper placement.
She's the highest in level (that being 100) but her class is more tailored to being a healer and support. In fact, if Omega were to fight with the rest of the Pleiades, their combined power would be just enough to take on 1 or 2 LvL 100 players. Throw in Sebas into the equation since he was originally supposed to fight any players who got this far aa the leader and boom, you actually have a solid wall in front of the throne room
That argument can absolutely be made, especially given how intelligent Pandora's Actor is. He will be able to properly take advantage of each transformation and weigh the strengths and weaknesses of each being he transforms in to.
@@shalltearsservants Yeah, I would say just by being able to transform into everything in this list bumps him up atleast a spot in mind, especially with him being able to think quite rationally, what-with his -50 Karma. Granted, I dont think he is anywhere near the strongest, but there has got to be something to be said about thinking about how strong Ains is, then thinking about how strong Pandora's Actor could be with Climb's ring. He could very well use that in tandem and possibly even draw out 100% of every Player's power.
The wiki states, from the web novel: "Once the tournament came to a decisive end, it was revealed that Touch Me came in second place out of all the nine World Champions. The author Maruyama stated that if it was purely a match between just Touch Me and 3rd-place Helheim's World Champion, the latter would instead be the victor." As such in terms of strength he comes in third but you could argue he's second also.
he tied with second place,but second place was still stronger. touch me tied due to means other than strength first place i think needed like 30 level 100 players to defeat him while touch me i think gets beaten by about 5 or less so the difference in power is humongous the number 1player is probably the only one capable of 1v1 Rubedo
@@yaboiplank6764 yeah that guy probably did the manwhua cheat character build. touch was already strong yet he only came 3rd and had a huge power gap between
@@zrothepangolin lolz The devs I think gifted him the character but there was a catch If he dies, his character would have to start from scratch unlike everyone else who only lost a few levels, he would go down to 1 So he quit the game and never came back
"In the Web Novel, at some point in the history of YGGDRASIL, there once existed a World Champion of Múspellsheim who managed to turn himself into a World Enemy, one of the Seven Deadly Sins. Thus, his power grew into tremendous might to the point that he could fight evenly against thirty players by himself alone. He would later be chased by players until destruction, and then failed during the moment of his character deletion. With the character being deleted by the developers, a new tournament was held to select a new candidate for the World Champion class. During the Múspellsheim festival, the second World Champion of Múspellsheim was crowned the first female (appearance-wise) World Champion." From the Wiki.
Pretty good video a lot of people forget when they are talking about these fights that their is a Rock Paper Scissors kind match up involved this isn’t dragon ball big muscles and glowing isn’t always going to cut it at the top tier
I knew the form pushes him noticeably above Albedo and Cocytus. The creator once confirmed Shalltear was still stronger, but then again, she's also stronger than Ainz. It doesn't mean he can't win.
That would be very close. -Firstly, the stronger the unit, the greater the difference in power with an 80% effective kit compared to the original. That said, if Aureoles buff meant the Pleiades where a significant threat to Ainz, then the buff must be rather significant., even if he was outnumbered. There are world items that could just delete Rubedo from existance, regardless of the wielder so we will assume the world item is just to protect PA from Rubedo's core. - I think overall, PA would win as he has access to the 41 supreme beings kits as well as Rubedos, and the buff should mitigate some of the efficiency loss. -Assuming he can only use Rubedo's kit, Rubedo should be familiar with her own kit to the point she is aware of it's weaknesses and as she should still be stronger, even with Aureoles buff, she should come out on top.
@@shalltearsservants great analysis,great video as always hopefully we seethe extent of Lakyus and Remedios weapons,id like to see a video on that Which weapon is stronger between those 2 (weapons they wield )and Razor Edge
@@shalltearsservants he can't copy world items or special abilities related to the world such as ulberts world disaster or touch me's world champion. Rubedo seems to be countered, or a least weaker, when fighting someone equipped with a world item, if we assume she had the caloric stone used in her creation then whatever she gained from it can't be copied. Given this, she should have the World buff given by world items and cant be destroyed by other world items We don't know her race either. If she was a pure golem I don't believe PA could copy her, otherwise he could probably copy gargantua. We know that half-golems have levels in their build (nishikienrai) but what makes up pure golems is the material used in their creation, the crafting methods, and the crafter's abilities. If he could copy pure golems, he could be given the highest possible stats for the ones the can't adapt, copy a golem with stats specced entirely into an ultra specialized role with none wasted on HP, MP, or Special, and be a glass cannon build without the glass With just this we can't properly know how it would go
Pandora much much Higher.. Just copy rubedo and yeah... 80 % is enough to be one of the strongest. And have so much flexibility, i think with his intelligence he is one of the top
Pandora's is limited to 45 transformations and we know 41 of them are taken up by the Supreme Beings. While he could potential have room to transform into Rubedo, he may have already used those other 4 slots or want to keep them open so I only considered the transformations we know he has. Furthermore Pandora's can't copy world items or special abilities related to the world so doesn't make him a perfect copy of the Supreme Beings and it's hard to tell how strong the copied Rubedo would actually be if she can be copied at all.
It's from weakest to strongest so number 1 is the strongest and appears last in the video. Albedo, Sebas and Cocytus are tied 7th, but as they are 3 separate NPC's, the next open slot is 10th place. The same applies to Aura and Demiurge at 13. Because if you then put PA at 8th, you have 10 beings in the top 8 slots and that just doesn't work.
She does as a last resort. She typically uses it when her armour's three-time a day ability has been exhausted to ensure she doesn't just loose all her defense. We hear her use it when Ainz is in the hotspring at the end of Season 3, Episode 1 but we never see the transformation.
The 1 are "Those" they are the guardians of floor 8 and the original world bosses in nazarick that ainz ooal gown beated as a whole. Then they acquired the world item the seat in the throne room is their world item prize because they managed to achieved nazarick in just 1 try
Think there was a tournament between all the champions at one point and touch me came out second or third. Though he might be the strongest in his world he came out that tournament top 3
Touch-Me came second in that tournament but it was said by the writer that in a proper 1v1 with the 3rd place champion, that 3rd place player would win against Touch-Me. So all in all, he's the third strongest player overall but officially second.
Cant Nabe use 8th tier spell? Like that magician said from the Empire. And isn't there an eight floor hierarchy which has NPCs on par with floor guardians?
Fluder did say that Nabe is already capable of using 8th Tier magic at maximum but the strongest spell we've known her to use is Chain Dragon Lightning which is 7th tier. As we know next to nothing about the 8th Floor Hierarchy other than Ainz believes they can beat Rubedo with a world item, i left them out of the list, although I did mention them in Rubedo's section.
Remember was we learned from shalltears battle sheer power doesnt define strongest, strategy/experience and intelligence on how to apply it are factors.
I can't find an exact level for her but there seems to be a lot of talk around it being in the 90s. Given this, I would have to agree. Also, her skills are all about increasing her evasion and lowering her opponents evasion and hit-rate so should be able to rather comfortable close the gap between her and her allies. Apologies for the mistake, my bad.
Shalltear is strong yes but when blood frenzy activates she for the most part stops thinking so I would rank her below a couple characters because in a fight intelligence plays a huge role
It's a fair point, the blood frenzy is a real double edged sword. That said, we have seen her use blood pool to collect the blood and she massacred the Quagoa army without entering her blood frenzy state. So if she were careless, she might activate it by accident but when she's focused, she can ensure she doesn't loose control.
Demiurge isn’t actually weak, being lvl 100, but it's just that PVP isn’t his forte. He was designed in Ainz's image, being of devilish intelligence, and capable of summoning powerful demons to fight on his behalf. He even stated that aside from Ainz, he could beat anyone simply with prep time 😂
@@shalltearsservants Truely sir. He did all that to fake his death and get away from that weak kingdom and be the real king and genius that he truly is. what an overlord tactic. Sasuga Philip sama
One correction about Sebas Normally he’s on their level cocytus and albedo With his dragonic he’s outright stronger than both of them Not just slightly stronger Since base Sebas is already as strong as them Wouldn’t make a sense a powerful transformation would only be slightly It’s a trump card but it’ probably something he can use a limited amount of times per day like 1 time a day And nishiki enrai is the one who discovered the tomb originally and he has the highest physical dmg and fastest supreme being And who would win in your opinion Rubedo vs all surpreme beings decked out in divine class gear With aura’s buffs and wielding world items
Rubedo vs All supreme beings? Of course its all the supreme beings, being made from a world item doesn't make you unkillable. Players with world items being killed happens frequently in the game. Meaning that it can be countered to some degree. Also, 41 lvl100 players with the strongest items below world items plus the fact that they probably have one of the best teamwork in the series, Rubedo dies like paper.
Rubedo might be the most powerful but it's not CRAZY kind of powerful, probably a few members that has high dps and are monsters in pvp could knock Rubedo down, not alone obviously. Some might say she's like a raid boss, but an end game whale players like the members of Ainz Ooal Gown could probably take her down, i mean they completed the tomb of Nazarick in their first try, with 4-5 floors and some Raid Bosses in each floor. it's safe to assume that those raid bosses are slightly weaker but are still monsters compared to the floor guardians as it's hinted that they're part of the 8th floor Hierarch, who are said to be Nazarick's last line of defense and Nazarick's most powerful entities
@@thepieofyourlife4799 I was hearing a person say rubedo solos overlord But she’s made from a world item Nazarick has 11 They have countless divine class gear with the staff of ainz of gown which is no less powerful than a world item So I doubted she could beat all of the decked out in divine class gear wielding world items and aura buffing them Like I was thinking if she is really able to beat 41 top tier players And as strong as ainz though hes far from the weakest surpreme being he’s also nowhere near the strongest He’s a mid tier supreme being , takemikazuchi/touch me/nishiki enrai/ulbert are considered top tier
Easily the supreme beings in that scenario. The difference between Rudebo and Touch-Me's strength is similar to the difference between Shalltear and Ainz. So Touch-Me is capable of beating Rubedo 1 on 1 and with an extra 40 beings to out class Rubedo, it should go in the Supreme Beings favour pretty quickly. And that's without Aura's buffs and the world items. Sure Rubedo''s strong, but not that strong.
@@shalltearsservants Now the great question is, Could the top 1 player beat Rubedo? I've read some comments mentioning that it took 5 players to beat TouchMe while the top 1 player took 30 players to beat. (Not sure how true it is though)
It's stated that the 8th floor hierarchy doesn't need world items to beat rubedo. They just need them to defend against her world item. Because only a world item can defend someone from another world item. The 8th floor hierarchy is stated to be the strongest force. Though we don't know what they're. During the 1500 player raid, only 300 died before reaching them, and the rest died by them. They're so strong that the others considered them a cheat and flooded the developers with complaints to ban the entire guild. The creator said that some of them would be making an appearance. I just hope that they aren't humanoids like the other npcs. I want when people look at them, to know they fucked up. I want genuine monsters, straight out of norse mythology.
I think the only one who can fight rubedo is the dragon emperor, he’s so strong the author stated he’s by far the strongest entity or being in the world, and the author tweeted level 100 is not enough to classify the dragon emperor he’s beyond the leveling system. We don’t know where he is or if he’s even alive right now but we know he’s somehow so powerful he can summon other players as his wild magic is on a completely different tier. there is another way to beat rubedo it’s if all 41 supreme beings jump her with all being decked out on world tier items which they have in the treasury, and use all the world items but at point it might be overkill, since touch me alone put a decent fight or good fight. I forgot but I believe it was mentioned dragon lord and the emperor can turn into human forms, but imagine being so strong you are beyond the system. Touch me is also insane I think it was stated he can take on all floor guardians at once and maybe a few more and would have a good chance in winning. So in conclusion I think the rank 1 Yggdrasil player and dragon emperor would clown on rubedo or crush her.
We don't know for certain how it works in the new world. Nazarick did have a level cap for the combined level of all NPC's and it's likely they hit that although that may not apply in the new world. The issue is most humans max out at around lvl 30 and Shizu is the lowest levelled member of the Pleiades at lvl 46. So even if they can level up, it's unlikely they will without farming thousands of kills.
Ainz said himself that the 8th Floor Hierarchy can stop Rubedo if they needed to but as we know nothing else about them, I omitted them from the rankings, although I did mention them in Rubedo's section.
In 1v1s undoubtedly but Ainz just has more tools at his disposal and it's better at dealing with a wider variety of situations which is why I put him higher.
That's just factually incorrect. He MUST be controlled by another denizen of nazarick to even be able to move. Combined with his size and probably being extremely slow due to said size, he would be completely useless in most situations. Rubedo has also been stated to be the strongest being in nazarick multiple times, and she's technically a floor guardian.
@@kfbeatforeternity5271 eh you can use remote viewing or whatever the long range information gathering spells are and then just use message to send commands from safe range
Just the first person I thought of. It's all of Aqua that makes her who she is so not much an attack, more of a chance to bring up everyone's favourite Goddess.
As far as we know, his only plan is to let the 8th floor hierarchy keep her in check and potentially give them world items to allow them to do so. Rubedo is way too strong for Ainz to fight on his own but I'm sure he has some backup ideas in his 10,000 year plan.
@@shalltearsservants I mean, she was created before he got into another world and it Was a possibility that someone can steal that NPC, so I think there were counter measures made up by ainz or other guild members
@@tiseril That makes a lot of sense. Seeing Rubedo's loyalty, it's somewhat unlikely she's going to turn against Nazarick. It's more likely an issue would have occurred before entering the new world.
@@tiseril If Rubedo is made from a world class item, then she would be protected from the effects of WCIs, lust like how the floor guardians now carry WCIs around so they can't be brain washed again
Demiurge has high intelligence but that doesnt mean his actual physical prowess is that good. Sebas would be able to wipe the floor with him for example.
Demiurge is a demon, and does have the highest intelligence in Nazarick but his physical stat's are lacking compared to other NPC's. He truly shines when he has capable subordinates to control as he can use them to their most effective. It's possible he would betray Ainz if he knew he was originally human, but equally, Dmeiurge does hold Ainz in such a high reverence it may not matter if he found out. Demiurge believes Ainz to be smarter than himself and Ainz is still a Supreme Being which to the NPC's is the highest authority there is.
Is the draconic form really that strong? I know the author confirmed that the high-tier floor guardians were stronger than Sebas' true form, but that doesn't mean he can't beat Shalltear. Just like how Ainz beat her despite the odds.
I was only including 3 of the clan members as we don't know the full extent of each of their kits and it's hard to put one above another. There are certainly guild members stronger than Nabe though.
Problem with this is the infusion of opinion. Example: Pandora’s Actor can act more rationally than Albedo or demiurge. And you’re basing it on their karma ratings and susceptibility from said karma which is a false assumption and solely based on your personal feelings and opinion. Demiurge has only shown 1 instance of his feelings taking precedent over his thinking and logic and that was because of Ainz’s safety was at risk. But you spuriously try to stamp that across the board because it’s useful for your personal perspective on this issue. That’s why in my opinion your list can’t be taken with any seriousness no matter how well thought out you think it is. Another example I can show to her this point across: is that of when in volume 12 demiurge says that nobody but Ainz is unbeatable for him. So him being the smartest person in the story should justify that he’s number one correct? Objectively speaking you can’t refute this because again it’s demonstrated time and again that demiurge is the smartest. That’s not my opinion either. Because the author put that into the lore/story from this character’s perspective who’s seen Shaltear fight and Ainz fight. This doesn’t include my opinion but it’s a different perspective than the common sentiment of the fan base
The karma rating played barely any significance at all. Albedo shares Demiurges karma rating and is ranked higher than Pandora's. It's true that Demiurge did say that but that doesn't mean he actually will and isn't simply overestimating his abilities, just like how Shalltear was meant to win against Ainz but didn't. When you look at his stats and abilities comparatively. The author himself outright confirmed that Demiurge was weaker than Guren, Sebas, Shalltear etc. Sure he wrote that Demiurge believes he is stronger, but that doesn't make it actually so.
@@shalltearsservants again weaker in abilities doesn’t mean that he can’t defeat them. That’s you once again cherry picking for your personal feelings. Do I really need to showcase that intelligence can defeat strength? Or are you so embroiled in your opinion that you can’t acknowledge that? Secondly and again the main point is that you spuriously use arbitrary arguments to validate your opinion.
Insert PDL and zesshi, OPS. wrong room... Hahaha only delusional people (NPC like remedios) will say pdl and zesshi can kill a guardian or even sebas at the very least... Those two can fight each other but they can never beat the guardians or even sebas at the very least... THAT'S A FACT... (I won't be surprised too if someone will reply a non canon entity fight with ainz, just to argue my point 🤣🤣🤣🤣)...
PDL and Zesshi could kill a member of the Pleiades rather easily, providing they don't have Aureole's buff of course. But yeah, a floor guardians just too strong for them. Sebas is on par with Cocytus and Albedo, and stronger still in his true form so even he's out of the question for PDL and Zesshi.
@@shalltearsservants if both face all the battle maids, they're dead... but yeah I agree, 1 on 1 is no debate the maids will loose except Aureole I guest (since shes a lvl 100 right?) ....
@@Rheinguard that is definitely a non canon fan fiction bullsh1t... He can't even retaliate after confronting with PA and you gotta tell me it one shot shaltear???? HAHAHAHA... that's probably delusioanal people (NPCs like remedios). .. PDL is no match even in his true form, think about this... If he has a trump card (wild magic or wolrd item) he could have used it in the fight with PA... but NO, he flee... and he didn't retaliate after it, what's the reason??? THE ONLY REASON IS HE'S WEAK TO EVEN SUBDUE A HEAVILY HANDICAPPED PA (RELYING TO AN ARMOR WHICH I ASSUME IS MUCH STRONGER THAT HIS TRUE FORM) MUCH MORE FIGHT MARE AND COCYOTUS RAMPAGING IN THE KINGDOM 🤣🤣🤣🤣... that lizard is a delusional pathetic self centered egoistic who think he's righteous but also considering killing his "companion" becuase its weak on it standard... what you say about that???
@@Rheinguard Idk but thats impossible unless Shalltear is without a world item. PDL uses wild magic that is negated by world items so Shalltear with a world item stomps him.
By the way why isn’t gargantos here it is confirm to be stronger than shaltear but it doesn’t have a mind of it’s own and it isn’t even created by the Ainz Ooal gown guild that is why he doesn’t count as the strongest floor guardian even though he is stronger than shaltear that is the answer to a question some of you may ask that is why then is shaltear called the strongest floor guardian then now you know
Garganyua is in position number 11. But as you say, the reason he's so far below Shalltear is his lack of intelligence and the battle between Ainz and Shalltear showed exactly how important tactics are.
yep Rubedo is the strongest being in Nazarick but I doubt she will betray Ains.. if she was made using a world item, it would very unlikely that Downfall of Castle and Country, a mind controlling world item will work on her.
There's next to no chance she will. She doesn't even listen to Albedo and only takes orders from Ainz directly so needless to say her loyalty is pretty well assured.
@@shalltearsservants yaaaaass. Haha
There are some other infos about the 8th floor hierachy that are insane if you think about.
1- Aureole Omega is the guardian of the REAL staff of Ainz Ooal Gown, the one Ainz uses is a fake one created by himself to trick enemies.
2- Inside Nazarick someone can't use TPs, Portals and such (only people with the ring of Ainz Ooal Gown AND Aureole Omega). She can control everything, for example create a portal that sends half the people invanding Nazarick from the 5th floor to the 1st floor again quicly, up to dividing their strenghts os putting some high level NPC besides them on an instant wich can break formations
3- The 8th floor guardian is Victim wich he is lvl 35 only (the weakest) but has an insane special when he dies (he is made for getting killed)... That triggers a wide AOE spell that stops everyone from moving, evading, teleporting, defend or attack and last a few minutes. Then Aureole can teleport Rubedo nearby and she massacres everyone.
4- There are a lot of NPCs and Mercenary monster of lvl 90+ on the 8th floor, some of them are even lvl 100 wich makes the floor with the most 100 lvl beigns.
5- "Them" or also refered as "those four" are hinted to be the original 4 raid bosses that defended Nazarick previously it's conquest by the guild, they are above lvl 100 cap and it needs at least 6 lvl 100 players to even beat one of those... They are probably even stronguer than Rubedo, by some infos that Maruyama said, while these 4 weren't the stronguest raid bosses in the game like the 7 deadly sins or the World Devourer Dragon (the last boss). These 4 aren't linked to Ainz Ooal Gown but they are probably setted to defend Nazarick of everyone.
6- When 1500 players and NPCs invaded Nazarick they lost 300 of them up to the 7th floor, the rest of them was eliminated on the 8th floor, some players recordes the invasion on stream but later one they called.the 8th floor a chear and requested the devs to cancel that, but the devs said it wasn't a cheat... The "cheat" was most.likely using raid bosses to defend a guild base, wich was supoosed to be impossible because they can't be controled or moved from the area they defend... The thing is, they aren't. Ainz Ooal Gown created a space for them inside the 8th floor (the tomb they already defended originally wich they didn't moved them) and they aren't bonded to the guild, they most likely can only obey to the one holding the Staff of Ainz Ooal Gown or someone sitting on the throne), altought this last bit is uncertain
@@luccavalentinw.fiorini2302 Wow, that's really cool to know, thanks for such an articulate and thorough reply.
I was a ware of parts of this but the rest I had no clue. That sounds like a very Ainz thing to do, build their base around raid bosses. Between the debuffs, Aureoles buffs and the world bosses, its no wonder floor 8 was so devastating.
@@shalltearsservants honestly i feel like if she even did albedo being her direct counter (she was designed to be a godlike tank and her armour is designed to have any damage she takes be redirected to it to the point it was made in layers so each individual layer of her armour has a different set of hit points)would be able to at least put a stop to her. Rubedo is only the strongest solely in attack power she is considered to be a glass cannon so for the most part i think anything thats able to withstand her initial attacks should be able to beat her like albedo. The way the sisters are designed are basically to counter/support each other so Rubedo being the DPS Nigredo being the tank/dps and Albedo being the tank its why albedo while extremely powerful would potentially lose to shaltear but shaltear would lose to nigredo or rubedo even tho she is 1v1 oriented their damage output would counter her pipette lances healing.
Touch Me’s ultimate attack the World Break can slash through reality itself. It’s similar to Ainz’s Reality Slash but on a much larger scale. When Sebas fought the six arms, one of them had a title that sounds like Touch Me’s ultimate skill. That actually made him cautious, but the guy turned out to be a weakling and wasn’t anything like his old master.
That's very interesting. I'm sure Touch-Me didn't crutch off of it as much as Ainz does reality slash though.
That seems to happen a lot in the new world. Reminds me of when Sebas had to fight "the undead king" when trying to rescue Tuareninya and then Sebas killed him in a single strike because he couldn't hold a candle to Ainz.
in my personnal opinion, this video was very well done. Which is very hard given the complexity of the scaling and the diverging opinions regarding it.
Still there is a lot of logic behind the list and I cant contest it, very well done!
Thank you very much. I found Pandora's the hardest to place, as that 80% efficiency makes it hard to work out exactly where he stands.
@@shalltearsservants it's complex because 80% efficiency is relative when taking into account race buffs, resistances and increased damage against races you counter. If played perfectly, I think it's reasonable to assume he could beat anyone. Let's say that no mater who you are, your enemy although weaker than the original race/class takes 20%+ less dmg and 30%+ more dmg dealt to you, it could be quite annoying to deal with on a 1v1
Appart from that, the tier list is pretty uncontestable
A weird fact actually,
TouchMe was nerfed by the author in the LN for some reason(even though he wont be appearing in the series, meaning it doesn't matter how strong he is)
The WN TouchMe can take on all floor guardian at the same time and still have somewhat of a chance taking a victory. He's broken as F, now imagine how strong the 1st and 3rd players are.
The power-scaling in this series is ridiculous sometimes which is part of what makes it so fun.
1st strongest must be borderline able to single handedly capture Nazarick now Ainz is the only Supreme Being. That's just insane to think about.
@@shalltearsservants doubt it, maybe in WN non canon, but LN? nah... Can that 1st even beat sebas at the very least? (remember, touch me created him which I assume as strong as him in way and sebas is Ainz butler for a reason)...
That's why its called non canon becuase its bullsh1t... Touch Me vs Ainz... maybe that battle is Like a pay to win vs free to play but both are mallers hahaha... If touch me really is the strongest why the hell she's not the overlord character that could have been esekai? The only reason is he's not fit for it,and Ainz could beat him in a way... That's my justification for ainz title and reason to be chosen as overlord... (despite the obvious fact that he's a loner, and that's why he's the one, becuase that's how esekai stories most of the time 🤣🤣🤣🤣)...
@@vladpete2764
No, the NPC isn't the same as the creator.
Some NPC are stronger than the maker, and some are weaker.
Touch Me in the LN might not be able to fight all floor guardians at the same time, but he's still able to beat the living skeleton out of Ainz.
Despite TouchMe being weakened by the author in the LN, it's still confirmed that he could take on 4 top players at the same time. This isn't just due to his class, but due to his real life reflex and reaction speed.
Ainz was the only one who got isekaid because he stayed in the game.
Also, TouchMe is good person, and the theme for overlord is that the MC is the villain.
Also², ToucMe has a family, so if he was the MC then there'd be no room for romance and stuff.
@@vladpete2764
Ainz title as "Overlord" is due to his character class.
Also, why should the strongest player be the one to be isekai?
Basically, it's like Rubedo was made using an exploit. Truly game-breaking similar to world items
great video and well thought out placements
Thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
overlord game mechanics is mostly based on dungeons and dragons especially its magic system, for those that doesnt understand why ulbert is stronger than ainz the basic answer would be that ainz is a utility "wizard" specializing in having as many spells as possible (probably due to role play reason) while ulbert is a dps "sorcerer" who specializes in dealing as much damage as possible and knowing a whole lot less amount of spell preferring to rely on a small selection that could be spammed and such.
cooldowns exist in overlord while there is no such mechanics in dnd i would probably translate that mechanics in a sense that sorcerer who gets to cast more spell every rest gets to have faster cooldowns instead hence why i called him dps sorcerer
Very well put. It's also not like Ulbert was typically alone so he could rely on his guildmembers to deal with the lower-tier enemies and only utilise his ridiculous power when he needed to.
- "He doesn't have any innate intelligence" 3:55
- Shows Aqua
loooool
She's just the first person who comes to mind when I think of no intelligence
Emotional damage
Having the highest spell damage doesn't necessarily make you stronger. Even a hit kill doesn't guarantee a win, you still need to ensure your attack connects, just my thoughts
well ulbert is stronger than ainz.
since they came from a game ulberts ability to boost his spells are deadly to ainz since ainz cant use time stop on ulbert since he probably have counter on it since its a popular strat in pvp.
then ainz barriers wont be able to block the boosted spell and then the spell can go from single target or an aoe in a pvp manner where you cant really run far a boosted aoe or a large single target spell can easily kill due to overpowering the defenses of the opponent.
Naturally it will always depend on the opponent. Someone like Albedo can just transfer the first three attacks to her armour and waste a lot of Ulberts MP but as Zro said, the extent to which his spells are boosted means that defences may not be enough to stop the spell dealing significant damage.
It's also not like Ulbert has one attack, yes the MP drain is substantial, but it doesn't mean he has one spell and he's done for the day.
You are right that the highest spell damage doesn't automatically make them a better unit, although the author said that Ulbert was stronger than Ainz, and he's sure to have more to his kit than a few high-tier spells.
@@shalltearsservants i didn't read the LN and didn't know the author said that, so i just commented based on games like Dota 2 (haven't played i a long while) where you can fight a stronger opponent by using stuns,silence,blink, reflect damage, limited immunity to magic damage, etc. I don't know all 700+ spells in overlord but im just thinking most technical game's would have counter's or as close to a counter to almost everything especially a game with more than 700 skills and spells not to mention the items in game. Again just my thoughts on it
@@shalltearsservants Could Ainz have gained World Disaster class by killing Ulbert?
@@factfiend1000 No, because Ainz can only steal spells. And WORLD DISASTER is a class. It is a hidden class that can only be unlocked when several specific condition is meet. In fact it is similar to Ainz's ECLIPSE class, which give Ainz access to his trump card The Goal of All Life is Death. This skill buff any instant death spells to the point where it bypass all resistance and immunity, and it does not consume any extra mana but it have 90 hour cool down. Ulbert's WORLD DISASTER class give him similar buffing skill that buff all damaging spells. Where Ainz's buff bypass all resistance and immunity, Ulbert's buff overwhelm those. And unlike Ainz's his does not have a cool down instead it cost high amount of mana.
So, even if Ainz's steal Ulbert's spells those are the regular version of the spell without the special buff, in fact, I think Ainz probably know majority of Ulbert's, if not all of his spell already, given he knows over 700.
If Rubedo was created using a World Item, then wouldn't that mean that she would have a passive resistance to their effects and , by extension, the effects of Wild Magic?
If so then, yeah, based on resistances alone, Rubedo is alredy the strongest being in Nazarick.
It would indeed. Under the same assumption, a lot of the reason Ainz was considering giving the 8th floor Hierarchy world items was to protect them from Rubedos.
"Not all traps on the 6th floor are Aura's" 💀
Yeah, that took a few re-recordings to say with a straight face.
fucking dead lol
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Aqua overpowered them all
Something I like to point out when it comes to PA and I think might've been worth mentioning in this type of list is: he still has 4 forms we know nothing about.
Though it's just speculation, if I were a betting man I'd bet at least one of them was a member of the 8th floor hierarchy, or even Rubedo herself (If her nature doesn't prevent him from copying her form). I wonder how far up the list he'd be under that circumstance.
The other possibility is he still hasn't used them. There's a chance that he can't copy the 8th floor hierarchy either as there's no guarantee they're actually NPCs. If Rubedo is meant to be the strongest NPC, and the 8th floor hierarchy are stronger, that raises questions as to their nature.
Although it is very true that he could have a hidden ace in those last 4 transformations.
Because of Ainz's Dark Wisdom ability, if he killed PDL will he be able to acquire one of his wild magic spells?
In theory, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to.
As the spells cut his HP with every use, there's no guarantee he would ever use them though as it deviates from his usual playstyle.
Thats a good question. In the bonus volume the author did not offer us any information on Ainz being able to use wild magic after killing cure Elim dragonlord.
Depends on if his Dark Wisdom recognises Wild Magic. Dark Wisdom works with Tier Magic, but it is not even hinted if he can learn Wild Magic.
@@shalltearsservantsif he is able to, that would effectively turn his HP into a second mana bar, if i were a magic caster, i'd never let go of that opportunity because running out of mana effectively means death ether way, these new wild magic spells however would allow one to have a second mana bar, that is if we completly ignore the strategic opportunities such potent magic can open up
Nice summary of the skills, habilities and combat strength, but I have to add something about Mare, and us that in the newest volumen of the light novel (vol 16) in his fight with antilene he show an ability that was granted by his class disciple of disaster, and that is a lesser version of the spell Ulbert could use, Grand catastrophy, although I wouldn't move him up in the list, because despite that ability and his knowledge of resurrection magic against instant death magic, I severely doubt he could defeat shalltear
demiurge with prep time can only be thwarted by lord ainz himself
I'd say it depends whether he's on his own or not. With his minions his danger level increases dramatically, but without them Demiurge is definitely outclassed in terms of range of abilities and stats. Touch-Me and Rubedo are stronger than both Ainz and Demiurge even with prep time, no question about it.
Units like Pandora's Actor have comparable intelligence and Shalltear and Mare are just too strong for him, especially as Mare is AoE focused.
With adequate prep time, and enough minions, he could probably beat Albedo and those on her power level but anything higher feels like too much of an uphill battle.
I feel like most picks of this list in a 1vs1 context are really accurate in the context of the original game, Yggdrasil but not the new World.
Intelligence, experience and tactics are factors that can easily overpower a physically (or magically lol) more powerfull foe.
I am pretty sure that for example Demiurge and Albedo both could easily outmaneuver the honest warriortype that Cocytus is. Both are highly intelligent and would quickly find weakpoints to exploid.
Thats the reason why Momonga could beat Shalltear, in a head on battle against her a mage build like his stands no chance but his clever use of items and deceptive battle tactics let him win with a wide margin.
I tended to focus on their raw strength more than their intelligence. With Albedo's intelligence, given she was before on-par with Cocytus, can now easily win against him.
Demiurge would still have a hard time against Shalltear because of the disparity in their kits but could certainly put up a good fight against some of the weaker NPC's. Especially as Demiurge doesn't have a seemingly never-ending supply of cash-shop items.
@@shalltearsservants Oh you are totally right on that! Sorry if my explanation was a bit lacking, I didnt want to say that for example Demiurge could dominate every Floor Guardian with his supreme intellect, I just wanted to highlight that even a weaker fighter might win against a stronger one given the right strategy. But that goes only *this* far ofc. If their combat abilities are too far removed from each other even the smarter one cannot so anything without outside help. Like you could take the most combat experienced and brilliant human fighter of the new World but he would still be anihilated be even the most mindless Monster that lurks in Nazarick because they are just that strong
Especially Shalltear, in my opinion she would dominate pretty much any named being in Nazarick in a 1vs1, aside from Rubedo and the Higher Beings like Momonga, after all her build is carefully crafted for that purpose and she only gets stronger the longer a fight goes on.
Anyho, I overall liked your video and reasoning for most placings and Im eager to see more content from you (:
@@marumoru2773 No problem at all. What makes overlord so fun is that there is so much to talk about and discuss about it.
You definitely raise a good point, and one I neglected to consider in relation to units like Albedo who are both very strong and intelligent. The mention of Cocytus's honour was particularly relevant although I don't necessarily think he would act as patiently against an enemy that could crush him as he was with Brain.
Shalltear is ridiculous though, by normal standards she's beyond op so the fact she loses to multiple beings just speaks to how unbalanced Nazarick's game systems were.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope to you enjoy future videos :)
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Always be aware that the majority of NPCs are meant to by in synergy with either their surroundings or other NPCs. Aura and Mare wouldn't be nearly as powerful alone as they are together.
I don't know if I missed it, but what about Aureole Omega? Isn't she said to be the strongest of the Pleiades maids, which would put her well ahead of Nabe.
There's not a whole lot we actually know about her. We know she is level 100 and fills a commander role.
Ainz see's her as an all-rounder and leaves his staff with her when he leaves this tomb, so we can infer she is more powerful. And if a 10-level gap is meant to be nigh-impossible to overcome, the 37 level gap between her and Nabe means she should be a lot stronger.
But despite being stronger than Nabe, we don't really know enough to give her a proper placement.
She's the highest in level (that being 100) but her class is more tailored to being a healer and support.
In fact, if Omega were to fight with the rest of the Pleiades, their combined power would be just enough to take on 1 or 2 LvL 100 players.
Throw in Sebas into the equation since he was originally supposed to fight any players who got this far aa the leader and boom, you actually have a solid wall in front of the throne room
I would argue Pandora's Actor should be just a bit higher, due to sheer versatility.
That argument can absolutely be made, especially given how intelligent Pandora's Actor is. He will be able to properly take advantage of each transformation and weigh the strengths and weaknesses of each being he transforms in to.
@@shalltearsservants Yeah, I would say just by being able to transform into everything in this list bumps him up atleast a spot in mind, especially with him being able to think quite rationally, what-with his -50 Karma. Granted, I dont think he is anywhere near the strongest, but there has got to be something to be said about thinking about how strong Ains is, then thinking about how strong Pandora's Actor could be with Climb's ring. He could very well use that in tandem and possibly even draw out 100% of every Player's power.
Name: Amenadiel Joyeuse
Race: Heteromorph
Job: One of the Almighty 41 Supreme Beings
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Sense of Justice: 275
CLASS BUILD ~ TOTAL LEVEL - 100
RACIAL LEVEL
• Angel (15)
• Archangel (10)
• Seraphim (5)
JOB LEVEL
• Artificer (10)
• Armorer (10)
• Forge Adept (10)
• Apex of Knowledge (5)
• War Wizard (10)
• High Wizard (10)
• Divination (10)
• Swirl of The Root (5)
Divine Item(s)
《No More Heroes》
《Ten Commandments》
《War & Peace》
《Mjölnir》
《Legendary Shield》
World Item
《Nameless Book of Spells》
《World Savior》
Ability Chart
HP ~ 100
MP ~ Exceeds Limit
PHY. ATK ~ 45
PHY. DEF ~ 90
AGILITY ~ 80
MAG. ATK ~ 100
MAG. DEF ~ 95
RESIST ~ 95
SPECIAL ~ 100
Wasn’t Touch Me said to be one of the 3 strongest players, rather than the third?
The wiki states, from the web novel:
"Once the tournament came to a decisive end, it was revealed that Touch Me came in second place out of all the nine World Champions. The author Maruyama stated that if it was purely a match between just Touch Me and 3rd-place Helheim's World Champion, the latter would instead be the victor."
As such in terms of strength he comes in third but you could argue he's second also.
he tied with second place,but second place was still stronger. touch me tied due to means other than strength
first place i think needed like 30 level 100 players to defeat him while touch me i think gets beaten by about 5 or less so the difference in power is humongous
the number 1player is probably the only one capable of 1v1 Rubedo
@@yaboiplank6764 yeah that guy probably did the manwhua cheat character build.
touch was already strong yet he only came 3rd and had a huge power gap between
@@zrothepangolin lolz
The devs I think gifted him the character but there was a catch
If he dies, his character would have to start from scratch unlike everyone else who only lost a few levels, he would go down to 1
So he quit the game and never came back
"In the Web Novel, at some point in the history of YGGDRASIL, there once existed a World Champion of Múspellsheim who managed to turn himself into a World Enemy, one of the Seven Deadly Sins. Thus, his power grew into tremendous might to the point that he could fight evenly against thirty players by himself alone. He would later be chased by players until destruction, and then failed during the moment of his character deletion. With the character being deleted by the developers, a new tournament was held to select a new candidate for the World Champion class. During the Múspellsheim festival, the second World Champion of Múspellsheim was crowned the first female (appearance-wise) World Champion."
From the Wiki.
Pretty good video a lot of people forget when they are talking about these fights that their is a Rock Paper Scissors kind match up involved this isn’t dragon ball big muscles and glowing isn’t always going to cut it at the top tier
Didn’t realise that you literally pointed that out so but il leave the comment for the algorithms sake
@@blingsing5383 No problem, it wouldn't do the trio justice if it wasn't mentioned so I had to make sure I included it. I appreciate the support.
Tabula is superior in magic to ainz aswell him and ubert both can be ainzs in magic power
Rubedo supremacy 🔥
Sebas is strong when he entered dragnoic form he could 1v1 shaltear
I knew the form pushes him noticeably above Albedo and Cocytus. The creator once confirmed Shalltear was still stronger, but then again, she's also stronger than Ainz. It doesn't mean he can't win.
who is stronger?
PA who copied Rubedo while armed with a world item and buffed by aureole omega or Rubedo?
That would be very close.
-Firstly, the stronger the unit, the greater the difference in power with an 80% effective kit compared to the original. That said, if Aureoles buff meant the Pleiades where a significant threat to Ainz, then the buff must be rather significant., even if he was outnumbered.
There are world items that could just delete Rubedo from existance, regardless of the wielder so we will assume the world item is just to protect PA from Rubedo's core.
- I think overall, PA would win as he has access to the 41 supreme beings kits as well as Rubedos, and the buff should mitigate some of the efficiency loss.
-Assuming he can only use Rubedo's kit, Rubedo should be familiar with her own kit to the point she is aware of it's weaknesses and as she should still be stronger, even with Aureoles buff, she should come out on top.
@@shalltearsservants great analysis,great video as always
hopefully we seethe extent of Lakyus and Remedios weapons,id like to see a video on that
Which weapon is stronger between those 2 (weapons they wield )and Razor Edge
@@shalltearsservants he can't copy world items or special abilities related to the world such as ulberts world disaster or touch me's world champion.
Rubedo seems to be countered, or a least weaker, when fighting someone equipped with a world item, if we assume she had the caloric stone used in her creation then whatever she gained from it can't be copied.
Given this, she should have the World buff given by world items and cant be destroyed by other world items
We don't know her race either. If she was a pure golem I don't believe PA could copy her, otherwise he could probably copy gargantua. We know that half-golems have levels in their build (nishikienrai) but what makes up pure golems is the material used in their creation, the crafting methods, and the crafter's abilities.
If he could copy pure golems, he could be given the highest possible stats for the ones the can't adapt, copy a golem with stats specced entirely into an ultra specialized role with none wasted on HP, MP, or Special, and be a glass cannon build without the glass
With just this we can't properly know how it would go
I'm late to Overlord. Thanks for this.
Pandora much much Higher.. Just copy rubedo and yeah... 80 % is enough to be one of the strongest.
And have so much flexibility, i think with his intelligence he is one of the top
Pandora's is limited to 45 transformations and we know 41 of them are taken up by the Supreme Beings. While he could potential have room to transform into Rubedo, he may have already used those other 4 slots or want to keep them open so I only considered the transformations we know he has.
Furthermore Pandora's can't copy world items or special abilities related to the world so doesn't make him a perfect copy of the Supreme Beings and it's hard to tell how strong the copied Rubedo would actually be if she can be copied at all.
yes i watch this intresting video :)
Thanks for the support, I'm glad you enjoyed
That’s handy.
^1.So who is the strongest of order no. 1 to 15?^
^2.Who is no. 8, 9 and 14?^
It's from weakest to strongest so number 1 is the strongest and appears last in the video.
Albedo, Sebas and Cocytus are tied 7th, but as they are 3 separate NPC's, the next open slot is 10th place. The same applies to Aura and Demiurge at 13.
Because if you then put PA at 8th, you have 10 beings in the top 8 slots and that just doesn't work.
Wasn't it mentioned that Albedo had a transformation like Sebas?
She does as a last resort. She typically uses it when her armour's three-time a day ability has been exhausted to ensure she doesn't just loose all her defense.
We hear her use it when Ainz is in the hotspring at the end of Season 3, Episode 1 but we never see the transformation.
The 1 are "Those" they are the guardians of floor 8 and the original world bosses in nazarick that ainz ooal gown beated as a whole. Then they acquired the world item the seat in the throne room is their world item prize because they managed to achieved nazarick in just 1 try
I thought touch me was only the strongest in their current world. The tournament was from world to world and yggdrasil had nine worlds.
Think there was a tournament between all the champions at one point and touch me came out second or third. Though he might be the strongest in his world he came out that tournament top 3
@@Jt-lz3vz yes I remember something similar too. I don't remember him being the strongest in the game but definitely a top player
Touch-Me came second in that tournament but it was said by the writer that in a proper 1v1 with the 3rd place champion, that 3rd place player would win against Touch-Me.
So all in all, he's the third strongest player overall but officially second.
@@shalltearsservants damn dude is just too strong. Not to mention his irl life is pretty nice too.
Cant Nabe use 8th tier spell? Like that magician said from the Empire. And isn't there an eight floor hierarchy which has NPCs on par with floor guardians?
Fluder did say that Nabe is already capable of using 8th Tier magic at maximum but the strongest spell we've known her to use is Chain Dragon Lightning which is 7th tier.
As we know next to nothing about the 8th Floor Hierarchy other than Ainz believes they can beat Rubedo with a world item, i left them out of the list, although I did mention them in Rubedo's section.
For me from what we know of the Supreme beings, i think.
1. Touch me
2. Ulbert
3. Takemikazuchi
4. Tabula
5. Ainz
Remember was we learned from shalltears battle sheer power doesnt define strongest, strategy/experience and intelligence on how to apply it are factors.
Nigredo should be above Gamma given her high level
I can't find an exact level for her but there seems to be a lot of talk around it being in the 90s. Given this, I would have to agree.
Also, her skills are all about increasing her evasion and lowering her opponents evasion and hit-rate so should be able to rather comfortable close the gap between her and her allies.
Apologies for the mistake, my bad.
@@shalltearsservants Aureole Omega is also quite high given her level being 100 although she is featless and mostly buffs others afaik
Shalltear is strong yes but when blood frenzy activates she for the most part stops thinking so I would rank her below a couple characters because in a fight intelligence plays a huge role
It's a fair point, the blood frenzy is a real double edged sword.
That said, we have seen her use blood pool to collect the blood and she massacred the Quagoa army without entering her blood frenzy state. So if she were careless, she might activate it by accident but when she's focused, she can ensure she doesn't loose control.
@@shalltearsservants I'm just now reading the light novel I'm on volume 3😁
After mind control accident, she makes sure to not use blood frenzy ever again.
Demiurge isn’t actually weak, being lvl 100, but it's just that PVP isn’t his forte. He was designed in Ainz's image, being of devilish intelligence, and capable of summoning powerful demons to fight on his behalf. He even stated that aside from Ainz, he could beat anyone simply with prep time 😂
And everyone is defeated by Philip, He is alive and will defeat everyone :^D
Just as how PA pretended to be Ainz, we didnt see the true Philip. The real Philip is strong enough to one-shot Ainz and take Nazarick for himself.
@@shalltearsservants Truely sir. He did all that to fake his death and get away from that weak kingdom and be the real king and genius that he truly is. what an overlord tactic. Sasuga Philip sama
@@pronini-kun4571 Ainz truely has nothing on Phillip and his 200,000 Year Plan
One correction about Sebas
Normally he’s on their level cocytus and albedo
With his dragonic he’s outright stronger than both of them
Not just slightly stronger
Since base Sebas is already as strong as them
Wouldn’t make a sense a powerful transformation would only be slightly
It’s a trump card but it’ probably something he can use a limited amount of times per day like 1 time a day
And nishiki enrai is the one who discovered the tomb originally and he has the highest physical dmg and fastest supreme being
And who would win in your opinion
Rubedo vs all surpreme beings decked out in divine class gear
With aura’s buffs and wielding world items
Rubedo vs All supreme beings?
Of course its all the supreme beings, being made from a world item doesn't make you unkillable.
Players with world items being killed happens frequently in the game. Meaning that it can be countered to some degree.
Also, 41 lvl100 players with the strongest items below world items plus the fact that they probably have one of the best teamwork in the series, Rubedo dies like paper.
Rubedo might be the most powerful but it's not CRAZY kind of powerful, probably a few members that has high dps and are monsters in pvp could knock Rubedo down, not alone obviously. Some might say she's like a raid boss, but an end game whale players like the members of Ainz Ooal Gown could probably take her down, i mean they completed the tomb of Nazarick in their first try, with 4-5 floors and some Raid Bosses in each floor. it's safe to assume that those raid bosses are slightly weaker but are still monsters compared to the floor guardians as it's hinted that they're part of the 8th floor Hierarch, who are said to be Nazarick's last line of defense and Nazarick's most powerful entities
@@thepieofyourlife4799
I was hearing a person say rubedo solos overlord
But she’s made from a world item
Nazarick has 11
They have countless divine class gear with the staff of ainz of gown which is no less powerful than a world item
So I doubted she could beat all of the decked out in divine class gear wielding world items and aura buffing them
Like I was thinking if she is really able to beat 41 top tier players
And as strong as ainz though hes far from the weakest surpreme being he’s also nowhere near the strongest
He’s a mid tier supreme being , takemikazuchi/touch me/nishiki enrai/ulbert are considered top tier
Easily the supreme beings in that scenario.
The difference between Rudebo and Touch-Me's strength is similar to the difference between Shalltear and Ainz.
So Touch-Me is capable of beating Rubedo 1 on 1 and with an extra 40 beings to out class Rubedo, it should go in the Supreme Beings favour pretty quickly. And that's without Aura's buffs and the world items.
Sure Rubedo''s strong, but not that strong.
@@shalltearsservants
Now the great question is,
Could the top 1 player beat Rubedo?
I've read some comments mentioning that it took 5 players to beat TouchMe while the top 1 player took 30 players to beat.
(Not sure how true it is though)
It's stated that the 8th floor hierarchy doesn't need world items to beat rubedo. They just need them to defend against her world item. Because only a world item can defend someone from another world item.
The 8th floor hierarchy is stated to be the strongest force. Though we don't know what they're.
During the 1500 player raid, only 300 died before reaching them, and the rest died by them. They're so strong that the others considered them a cheat and flooded the developers with complaints to ban the entire guild.
The creator said that some of them would be making an appearance. I just hope that they aren't humanoids like the other npcs. I want when people look at them, to know they fucked up. I want genuine monsters, straight out of norse mythology.
8/10
Not enough slime monster
Nice Re Zero joke though
Felix was there to make up for the lack of HeroHero
I think the only one who can fight rubedo is the dragon emperor, he’s so strong the author stated he’s by far the strongest entity or being in the world, and the author tweeted level 100 is not enough to classify the dragon emperor he’s beyond the leveling system. We don’t know where he is or if he’s even alive right now but we know he’s somehow so powerful he can summon other players as his wild magic is on a completely different tier. there is another way to beat rubedo it’s if all 41 supreme beings jump her with all being decked out on world tier items which they have in the treasury, and use all the world items but at point it might be overkill, since touch me alone put a decent fight or good fight. I forgot but I believe it was mentioned dragon lord and the emperor can turn into human forms, but imagine being so strong you are beyond the system. Touch me is also insane I think it was stated he can take on all floor guardians at once and maybe a few more and would have a good chance in winning. So in conclusion I think the rank 1 Yggdrasil player and dragon emperor would clown on rubedo or crush her.
Can the NPCs level up or is it locked?
We don't know for certain how it works in the new world.
Nazarick did have a level cap for the combined level of all NPC's and it's likely they hit that although that may not apply in the new world.
The issue is most humans max out at around lvl 30 and Shizu is the lowest levelled member of the Pleiades at lvl 46.
So even if they can level up, it's unlikely they will without farming thousands of kills.
nazaricks eighth floor hierarchy should be at no 1, the rest yo can organize as yo see fit
Ainz said himself that the 8th Floor Hierarchy can stop Rubedo if they needed to but as we know nothing else about them, I omitted them from the rankings, although I did mention them in Rubedo's section.
It's funny how Nazarick has an NPC who's stronger than almost every player lol
It's kind of ridiculous. Sure it makes sense if she was made with a world item, but still feels a little unbalanced.
Shalltear is stronger than Ainz but great vid
In 1v1s undoubtedly but Ainz just has more tools at his disposal and it's better at dealing with a wider variety of situations which is why I put him higher.
Cant wait for gargantua to smash Slane
Gargantua is stated to being the strongest Floor Guardian so this list is definitely just wrong
That's just factually incorrect. He MUST be controlled by another denizen of nazarick to even be able to move. Combined with his size and probably being extremely slow due to said size, he would be completely useless in most situations. Rubedo has also been stated to be the strongest being in nazarick multiple times, and she's technically a floor guardian.
@@kfbeatforeternity5271 eh you can use remote viewing or whatever the long range information gathering spells are and then just use message to send commands from safe range
Yo why you attacking Best Girl Aqua when talking about low intelligence ???
Just the first person I thought of.
It's all of Aqua that makes her who she is so not much an attack, more of a chance to bring up everyone's favourite Goddess.
Where's aureole?
I bet ainz has a plan on how to defeat rubedo with minor losses. He's really good at fighting and making plans
As far as we know, his only plan is to let the 8th floor hierarchy keep her in check and potentially give them world items to allow them to do so. Rubedo is way too strong for Ainz to fight on his own but I'm sure he has some backup ideas in his 10,000 year plan.
@@shalltearsservants I mean, she was created before he got into another world and it Was a possibility that someone can steal that NPC, so I think there were counter measures made up by ainz or other guild members
@@tiseril That makes a lot of sense. Seeing Rubedo's loyalty, it's somewhat unlikely she's going to turn against Nazarick. It's more likely an issue would have occurred before entering the new world.
@@shalltearsservants there might be world items that do that thing. Again, someone tried to use one on Shalltear
@@tiseril If Rubedo is made from a world class item, then she would be protected from the effects of WCIs, lust like how the floor guardians now carry WCIs around so they can't be brain washed again
Narberal is not even top or top 250.
Here is why it’s because there are 300 npcs level 70 and over in Nazerick not counting in known level 100s like Ainz and the guardians.
Bro demiurge is real demon yo know he too op and he plan everything ahead, it's possible he can betray ainz if he know about ainz true identity
Demiurge has high intelligence but that doesnt mean his actual physical prowess is that good. Sebas would be able to wipe the floor with him for example.
Demiurge is a demon, and does have the highest intelligence in Nazarick but his physical stat's are lacking compared to other NPC's. He truly shines when he has capable subordinates to control as he can use them to their most effective.
It's possible he would betray Ainz if he knew he was originally human, but equally, Dmeiurge does hold Ainz in such a high reverence it may not matter if he found out. Demiurge believes Ainz to be smarter than himself and Ainz is still a Supreme Being which to the NPC's is the highest authority there is.
Copying all their stat's except for all their stats
Most of the stats are copied in fairness, its only 3 that arent. The main ones like atk, def, sp atk and sp def are copied.
Sebas true dragon form vs Shaltear can go bothways
Is the draconic form really that strong?
I know the author confirmed that the high-tier floor guardians were stronger than Sebas' true form, but that doesn't mean he can't beat Shalltear. Just like how Ainz beat her despite the odds.
Well shalltear has a resurection item so it will be trouble some for sebas...
Including the guild-mates? There are like 38 others that are stronger than Naberal-Gamma.
I was only including 3 of the clan members as we don't know the full extent of each of their kits and it's hard to put one above another. There are certainly guild members stronger than Nabe though.
Ok now where is hideonbush in this series. Dont tell this anime has no easter eggs while one guy is called touchme
Problem with this is the infusion of opinion. Example: Pandora’s Actor can act more rationally than Albedo or demiurge. And you’re basing it on their karma ratings and susceptibility from said karma which is a false assumption and solely based on your personal feelings and opinion. Demiurge has only shown 1 instance of his feelings taking precedent over his thinking and logic and that was because of Ainz’s safety was at risk. But you spuriously try to stamp that across the board because it’s useful for your personal perspective on this issue. That’s why in my opinion your list can’t be taken with any seriousness no matter how well thought out you think it is. Another example I can show to her this point across: is that of when in volume 12 demiurge says that nobody but Ainz is unbeatable for him. So him being the smartest person in the story should justify that he’s number one correct? Objectively speaking you can’t refute this because again it’s demonstrated time and again that demiurge is the smartest. That’s not my opinion either. Because the author put that into the lore/story from this character’s perspective who’s seen Shaltear fight and Ainz fight. This doesn’t include my opinion but it’s a different perspective than the common sentiment of the fan base
The karma rating played barely any significance at all. Albedo shares Demiurges karma rating and is ranked higher than Pandora's.
It's true that Demiurge did say that but that doesn't mean he actually will and isn't simply overestimating his abilities, just like how Shalltear was meant to win against Ainz but didn't. When you look at his stats and abilities comparatively.
The author himself outright confirmed that Demiurge was weaker than Guren, Sebas, Shalltear etc. Sure he wrote that Demiurge believes he is stronger, but that doesn't make it actually so.
@@shalltearsservants again weaker in abilities doesn’t mean that he can’t defeat them. That’s you once again cherry picking for your personal feelings. Do I really need to showcase that intelligence can defeat strength? Or are you so embroiled in your opinion that you can’t acknowledge that? Secondly and again the main point is that you spuriously use arbitrary arguments to validate your opinion.
Number 1 : Rubedo.
Change my mind.
what if PA could transform into a world enemy or into rubedo with aureole buffs and WI
:)
Insert PDL and zesshi, OPS. wrong room... Hahaha only delusional people (NPC like remedios) will say pdl and zesshi can kill a guardian or even sebas at the very least... Those two can fight each other but they can never beat the guardians or even sebas at the very least... THAT'S A FACT... (I won't be surprised too if someone will reply a non canon entity fight with ainz, just to argue my point 🤣🤣🤣🤣)...
PDL and Zesshi could kill a member of the Pleiades rather easily, providing they don't have Aureole's buff of course. But yeah, a floor guardians just too strong for them. Sebas is on par with Cocytus and Albedo, and stronger still in his true form so even he's out of the question for PDL and Zesshi.
@@shalltearsservants if both face all the battle maids, they're dead... but yeah I agree, 1 on 1 is no debate the maids will loose except Aureole I guest (since shes a lvl 100 right?) ....
I keep reading that somewhere PDL one shot Shalltear in his true form. I also know that wasn't canon. Does anyone know where exactly that takes place?
@@Rheinguard that is definitely a non canon fan fiction bullsh1t... He can't even retaliate after confronting with PA and you gotta tell me it one shot shaltear???? HAHAHAHA... that's probably delusioanal people (NPCs like remedios). .. PDL is no match even in his true form, think about this... If he has a trump card (wild magic or wolrd item) he could have used it in the fight with PA... but NO, he flee... and he didn't retaliate after it, what's the reason??? THE ONLY REASON IS HE'S WEAK TO EVEN SUBDUE A HEAVILY HANDICAPPED PA (RELYING TO AN ARMOR WHICH I ASSUME IS MUCH STRONGER THAT HIS TRUE FORM) MUCH MORE FIGHT MARE AND COCYOTUS RAMPAGING IN THE KINGDOM 🤣🤣🤣🤣... that lizard is a delusional pathetic self centered egoistic who think he's righteous but also considering killing his "companion" becuase its weak on it standard... what you say about that???
@@Rheinguard Idk but thats impossible unless Shalltear is without a world item. PDL uses wild magic that is negated by world items so Shalltear with a world item stomps him.
Gargantua is referred to as she/her
I did not know that. My bad.
Mare is a boy aura is a girl
This is true. Their creator, Lord Bukubukuchagama, created them to be cross-dressers.
By the way why isn’t gargantos here it is confirm to be stronger than shaltear but it doesn’t have a mind of it’s own and it isn’t even created by the Ainz Ooal gown guild that is why he doesn’t count as the strongest floor guardian even though he is stronger than shaltear that is the answer to a question some of you may ask that is why then is shaltear called the strongest floor guardian then now you know
Garganyua is in position number 11. But as you say, the reason he's so far below Shalltear is his lack of intelligence and the battle between Ainz and Shalltear showed exactly how important tactics are.