Combat Training with an Ace Pilot in Star Citizen
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- I teamed up with @Avenger__One to learn some advance piloting in Star Citizen
Check out Avenger One: • DOGFIGHTING MASTERCLAS...
00:00 - Intro
00:50 - Avenger Juan
01:48 - The Basics
07:15 - Testing It Out In PU
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My name is Commander One and this is my favorite channel on the citadel
hey it’s that guy
Love the Mass Effect Reference.
👍
Captain my captain
The mentor!
Yes the combat is fun in SC but sneaking onto somones ship uninvited and murdering them while they are unaware of the stowaway in the middle of space and stealing there stuff.... That's what gets me going! Maybe I'm a bad person? I blame escape from tarkov and General Sam.
It’s got a certain sweetness to it 😅
Combat isn't even fun in SC right now. It's a desynced mess and very basic. The 6dof combat is pretty much inherently worse than more real world fighting. I hope they can make it work in the future.
Avenger_One really is a cool dude and probably the best resource for anyone looking to get better at combat.
He sucks at mspaint though :p
i cut the ms paint section from the video and thats not a joke 😂
Now I'm curious? What did i miss...?
lol. I fracking knew it.
@Stigly AvengerOne does streams and video with flight skills and theory, often using mspaint to help explain stuff before showing it in engine.
To be fair to him I'm just kidding... Kind of ;)
The paint session mainly ends up with sausages.
I've been watching avenger for awhile now but really struggle with some of his explanations, it actually cool to watch him teach someone else. Thanks for the vid.
Baha, I was belly gunning in that Redeemer at 14:30, was my first hour or two in the game xD. Was fun.
I watched this.. went in game, picked up my first player bounty and won a 1v2!! Thanks for the video!
That is amazing! It's an unrivalled rush.
I highly recommend you check avenger one's channel, he has so many videos that teach as much as this one.
Star has some high level of combat when you get into it and it's impressive. Knowledge and actual skill are what matters and I love it no cheap tricks
Avenger One absolutely deserves the subs he will get from this, very under appreciated SC content!
That’s basically why cig wants to slow the combat speeds but I honestly think a better solution would be to increase all the weapons range by at least 500m mean it’s space a projectile will not lose its momentum like the current models do
Dumbing it down and making it easier and slower would be a massive error. Most people don't ever need to fly on t his level of PvP ability and the people who do want that, have the option to learn and try to get there.
Max range doesn't mean squat right now. Effective range is all about projectile velocity in the current meta. It doesn't matter if your projectile travels 3000m or 3500m if it takes 6 seconds to get there and your opponent has moved by then. Notice how AvengerOne was saying that canons aren't effective at 500m? That's because they shoot slow projectiles. Their listed max range is many times that, but it doesn't matter because fighters are fast, small, and agile and cannons shoot slow projectiles.
@@extectic its not dumbing it down
@@rolasmola9641 that’s basically what I’m saying tho because there no resistance in space projectiles should have no fall off and more range
@@nerdglider I think you are misunderstanding me. There is no damage or velocity falloff in the game. What I'm saying is letting the bullets travel for longer before disappearing isn't going to change anything in the current meta. You will still constantly miss competent fighter pilots at 500m with canons. They travel plenty far enough for how fast they travel. Making them travel for longer before disappearing will only change things against stationary or very large targets, which no fighter pilot with a pulse is going to be.
You're desire for realism in this regard serves no practical gameplay purpose in the current game, and simply taxes server and client resources more.
Just wanted to say I appreciate the content! You both are a blast to watch in this game.
Huh, so it's all about control and forcing your opponent into operating their craft outside of it's ability. Good to know
That was super cool and educational at the same time
Great video, cool to see it from your perspective after the stream
Great video. Helpful to see Avenger One's tutelage in action. You did great 👍
awesome. I love star citizen combat. this was a fun watch
A1 has a whole series of videos on his channel too, starting from one appropriately named "Welcome", where he links to a ton of videos about space combat, it's great stuff.
this was great, only started to get into ship combat so this helps a ton
Check out A1's channel and find the "Welcome" video. He goes through space combat starting from the ground up, up to more advanced topics.
0:44 "Well sir he did make it back to the carrier ,but we just had flip him over to get him out."
I'd watch competitive dog fighting in SC with sideline commentary all day lol!
Avenger ones channel is perfect for this. He puts up like 4 minutes of fighting, then plays it back in slow motion while commentating what is happening.
@@vorpalrobot
I know it's great.
I want the whole crowd and judge experience though.
Something with a title or victory on the line to make it feel official lol!
Star Citizen is setting up nicely to have a DogFighting E-Sport Culture for sure!
Can't wait!
@@xBloodXGusherx can't wait til we can set up team battle arenas, with spectators, food vendors, security etc
Nice! Lvlcap getting really good at this!
wow cool your in for the win
tbh the experiences you can have in Star Citizen are insaneeee
like what? is there actually a goal? or is it a mile wide and inch deep kind of deal like elite dangerous?
@@Freelancer604 it's a do as you like kinda sandbox there is already far more depth than Ed tho admittedly atm ship building and upgrading still the main point tho it's a space sim so I mean duh. Far less mats to grind for sure and so far is actually balanced well.
@@Freelancer604 From personal experience, the goal in alfa is kinda simply to have - FUN! Exploring, doing missions or mining and trading, also events. Grinding a huge amount of money is rather pointless, there is an occasional wipe between major updates... But this game generates an enormous amount of emotions and fun moments. And it only gets better with each update. Free fly weeks are quite often, you can try it yourself. And finally, it will be probably the most atmospheric game you ever played at least in space settings.
@@Freelancer604 Best way someone told me it's like an olympic swimming pool, but 50 miles deep. It's genuinely incredible the scale of everything when you get the hang of it, there's nothing that comes close to the experience. Standing on top of a ship with your buddies while you warp from planet to planet because there's magnetic strips that keep you in place so you're just standing there as everything comes into scale. Raiding spaceship yachts in the middle of space, going into bunkers to save people who've been downed/killed, hunting down bounties, going mining in a cave or using a ship in an asteroid belt, playing intergalactic delivery boy, being a general space pirate. Those are just things you do for 'jobs' to make money, and not even all of them.
man a 100% win rate is impressive.
This was super helpful! Just picked up the game and need all the help I can get
Dude, thanks so much to both you and Avenger_One for making this fine tutorial on the fine art of destroying your enemy. I heard about Avenger_One from Average Ardvark so I was greatly looking forward to this video; it did not disappoint!
Really comprehensive for starters. I’ll recommend this as beginner tdlr over the legacy fleet vids from now on.
enjoyed this video. amazed that you are that good already. really jealous as i suck. i was paying attention to what he was saying and the throttle control is definately my issue.
I don't usually comment on videos but this video helped me out so much! Thanks you so much Avenger_one! .
wow, you really picked it up fast, and it shows. good kills
Gratz on all the kills
Awesome job
Good flying!
I enjoyed that, 20 mins went by quick. I like games that require a steep learning curve, more skill to it than just point and shoot.
I’m so bad at ship combat, but watching this gets me stoked to practice more!
absolutely inspirational
Lol I was in the server that night when Avengerone was offering that
This was really cool.
I was at the front of the video!!! Gf Lvl. I'm still getting used to Xbox controller but I wanna get sticks. I love your content keep it up
Hi, I was Struppi :-) nice to see the fight from your point of view! thanks for the video and thanks to Avenger one! Best regards Thomas
Iam really curious towards a setup tour. Like what joysticks you use and how you recommend binding them with the mindset behind it.
That last pilot was good. Good dog fight.
2nd video of yours that popped up and both ive watch all the way thru when i had no intention to. NJ
That was really nice of Franndulce..........
wow, you have a great mentor here. Also makes me want to get a gladius. :)
Nicely done! I'm a $#!t pilot but I can admire skill, and you guys have it. Pleasure to watch you work.
This gives me Freelancers vibe all over again so much nostalgia...was in the "clan" IMMORTAL ahhh fun memories ~ the "ace fighter clan on the servers",,, where the dog fights where awesome... .sadly SC is soo huge and complicated and i have no one to play or explain it to me which i have no idea what im doing lol
Ive been looking for this type of vid forever!!! Thk u!!! Jesus!!! Lol
Thank you
sick!
Good fight, LvlCap!
Avenger_One seems like a really good teacher, and well played, Level Cap.
haha, I need to start offering people money to come after me, seems effective.
I keep seeing the "aim reticle" (that small circle that points the direction your shots go to, don't know the exact word for that, sorry, I'm not a native english speaker) in various youtube videos pointing right over the target instead of ahead of it, like I have in my game. Is that a configuration setting or is it an ingame option, like changing between gimballed, fixed, etc. that I don't know about?
Is there any specific benefit to using the trailing gunfight over the leading gunsight?
Legman69420, what a legendary handle
I need lessons like this XD
Wow, I was over doing missions on Microtech when you guys were dueling by Yela, kinda wished I QT´d over to have a go lol
hope to see you in arena commander
Nice flying bro
Oau....I am watching so many videos , I'm on dual sticks, but is so hard to learn.... I am mostly in Arena trying to learn to fly. Thank you for this.
so is it essential to use joysticks for fighting, do you think? (Basically im really really bad and I want to blame my tools)
ok and on what equipment are u playing ? looks like tobi eye tracker and HOTAS ?
Watched this and now my life expectancy in the verse has dramatically skyrocketed.
What head tracking does levelcap use?
Hope to see you more in AC! GFs o7
Weird how "off" the pips are from where you actually need to aim. good vid
Best SC content full stop
I want to build a new rig now and join again. I have a corsair and a 325a
Cheers
Dude bight your younger about the avenger titan! Before the 3:14 update and wipe of everyone’s accounts I had my avenger titan set up perfectly for me! I was doing the EHRT with mine and taking out hammer heads with it! Yeah it took awhile to take that hammer head down? But the ship handled all the other ships with ease and I’m still to this day only using mouse and key board for all fighting in this game! But after the 3:14 update rsi freaking nurffed the ships weapons systems to the point all gats run outta ammo in under 3 seconds and all energy based weapons dump their charge in the same 3 seconds time frame! At the time of the 3:14 update and wipe of my account I had grinded out 22 ships and every version of almost every land vehicle in the game with the exception of the tanks and the other larger like 8 wheeled vehicles! The last ship I grinded out was the 600i which between that and my Connie andromeda were the biggest ships I wanted to own in the game! And I had grinded the 600i out like the day before the wipe so I only flew it once! And as the titan goes I swear they also nurffed the Quantum drive on that ship as well because I could with the base stock Q drive go from microtech to Hurston or port Olisar without stopping between for a refuel of q juice! After the update not possible! And at the time just before the update the only ship that size class I grinded out that couldn’t Quantum from microtech to any other plant in the game was my stock 325A. Which is we’re I found the best Quantum drive for these sized ships is the Atlas drive! And guess what drive wasn’t available just after the 3:14 update anywhere? Yup the Atlas drive! I hit every space port and every city in the game looking for the Atlas drive and never found it! Has rsi not nurffed the ships weapons systems as harshly as they did I could have done more then package deliveries with my titan!
I get into this once the flight model is finalized and all ships have been balanced 😎
I say this as a fan of SC, it's never going to be perfectly balanced, they'll keep adjusting things even after release.
really great video, lots of valuable informations, really love the collab ! i have a question tho how do I simulate 15% throttle on kbm ? Tapping ? Or is it just not possible
Speed limiter increase/decrease using mouse wheel.
@@andrewbaker3954 nothing to do with what I said
could you maybe do a tutorial on how you've got your sticks set up?
Well done. You've really got a great instructor. Even in non-combat situations, using pitch & roll is faster and more efficient for vector change than yaw + boost. Complaints about excessive "drift" and "jousting" in SC combat are generally a good signifier that the pilot making the claim hasn't figured out what Avenger_One is teaching you here.
is joystick mandatory in dogfight? I am thinking that this manouvers would be hard to execute with mouse and keyboard. I do have THrustmaster hotas X, but I was not happy while I was trying to use it in flight
The hangar thing is most probably proximity assist flipping out.
thats why i have it turned off
Are you using eye tracking or head tracking hardware ? If so then which one because this video makes me want to play😊
Should do some fights in atmosphere
I'm so early the BF 2042 comments aren't showing up.
At the high levels of star citizen PvP there are some really godly players that are just unbelievably fucking hard to beat. If at all
Nice really glad LCap is getting so bitten by the SC bug!
LevelCap: what is your setup (stick, pedals, etc)
This video alone made me see that you can change the targeting type... The only thing that has annoyed me is how i'm targeting some box instead of the box showing me where my shots will land. it's similar, but it isn't the same that i'm used to.
Nice fights, wish I could have been there, I only have an arrow but I should have brought out the constellation so you could have some multi-target experience. with the fighter.
Avenger Squadron sent me here.
@LevelCapGaming Looks like someone is using your logo to scam people.
anyway you or @avenger_one could give us some tips on sens curves and or deadzones for duel stick controls
Is there a practice mode so that you don't lose your ship?
I can see that in the future you can combine your Battlefield tutorial experience with newly acquired skills in competitive space combat and really make this big. avenger one is a great teacher!(maybe not the sausage stuff)
How do you brake so fast without boosting on the opposite direction ? You go from like 240 to 30 in half a second without loosing any boost ??
what joystick setup do you use?
Xbox 360 controller (counts as dual stick, cmv) with a Dance Dance Revolution pad as pedals
I prefer TNG setup. I.E kb/mouse
@@tiestofalljays based
Is it possible in SC to be among the best pvp fighters if you only play with Keyboard and Mouse?
LevelCap is such a wholesome youtuber.
LevelCap: 9:22
Edit: Okay. I misunderstood. He's not saying get fked. Lol.
I assume he is saying good fight.
Im confused on how this works, is this just a random area where everyone decided to go PVP at? Or is it a designated area that you go to in order to do pvp?
You can pvp almost anywhere. Avenger one likes to pvp there. OM1, an orbital navigation marker over the north pole of Yela, a frozen moon with rings that orbits the gas giant.
There's a pirate base in the ring nearby that criminal players base out of, it's convenience might be why he chose this spot. If you're a criminal, which he usually is, this is one of the only places you can safely repair your ship.
For a second i hoped you ment me :)
Maybe see if they can add training weapons to the game. So you activate training guns you still see tracers from energy weapons and kinetic and missile are simulated on the sensor suite. Damage would be monitored but not actual damage components shutdown if they have been destroyed if your ship is destroyed it shuts down but no damage. Just so players can have simulated training in craft. Or just literally add a simulation chair in game to fight in a sim.
They have those weapons, just nerfed them though. Pirates use them to disable you, but it was a bit strong.
They also have sim pods around. The casual game modes are intended to be an in-game game. Those game modes need a lot of work though. There's an fps, a ship combat one, but I'm waiting for the perpetually delayed battlefield type combined arms mode.
It's acually a reality already. It's called Arena Commander and is a directly-into-dogfight module which is supposed to be playable when you're in game in the future.
@@davidhonnay1540 Yep! I just want the day where I can land somewhere in the MMO and hop into a fun game mode with other players, then afterwards climb back out of the pod into the MMO universe again. Of course leaving those game modes as a menu option is fine, it doesn't need to be that immersive for everyone.
@@davidhonnay1540 cool I haven't played personally just enjoying learning of the verse and the goal of the design of the game. I was a console player of elite dangerous since it was in my price bracket. They have since killed further development for the game for console so I feel stranded in space.
trottle thing sounds problem i have how would i fix this if i fly with keyboard and i cant throttle slightly its full on or off :/
this is truly the basics, me and my mate have been playing for 2 days (about to head off on the second and start the third tomorrow) and sadly didn't learn anything new from the teaching part of the vid as it is as basic as it gets, so if 95% of people dont know this within a week, then this just isnt the game for them. i wish i could have tried to fight you, i would have loved that 1mil aUEC to but a new ship, then try fighting avenger to see how it goes. i play on keyboard and mouse, working on a keybind setup to not need the mouse as that is what im used to doing on every other game with flying, including no man's sky, battlefield and gta.
My one real gripe with A1 is him calling it a mag and not a cap. Dumping a mag doesn't sound correct when we're dealing with capacitor levels, but eh.
my i ask how they r swapping power?
i feel that weapons need better range overall
so what i see is not too much aiming on that target "reticle/box" but yet pretty effective hits. so i am trying to understand the reason and mechanics around that. i haven't really done bounties but those i did were PvE - but even those were troublesome - so i guess the question is - do you not aim for the "box" for hits??
This is a trailing box (I think it's called not 100%) instead of the default leading one, the box in this case will show where the shots will land so essentially you'd wanna place the box on the enemy ships rather than aim for the box. I think you change this in the general settings somewhere.
@@kpkill AH thanks. I will give that a try - thank you 😊
Is it true that despite it still being only one system the universe feels bigger than Elite's? If so I might try it out.
Just try it out anyway, it’s free to play right now. Enjoy!
Difficult to say. You wont have the feeling of emptiness through repetition as much as in Elite. Then again, the things to do still are very limited and therefore you certainly will get the repepetition feeling relativly fast in PvE.
Just check it out for free in SCs regular freeflight-events.
It is certainly one of a kind of a game... And still a long way off to realy be called a game 😅
Yo waddup my fellow Star citizens
I could use this sort of help lol