How to do a CHOP BLOCK (with Craig Bryant)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2018
- In this video I am joined by Craig Bryant (a former international player) and Craig shows us how to do a backhand chop block.
A chop block is a great way to mess up your opponent. You can use a chop block to change the speed and spin on the ball and generally cause lots of confusion.
In the video, Craig demonstrates the chop block technique and I take on Craig in a few points. Can I return Craig's chop block? Watch to find out...
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Great one ☝️ now we can train what KOKI NIWA playing...
Usually I love doing weird sidespin and underspin variations in this situation which are actually harder to do, but admittedly the chop block is more effective so I will try doing that much more often
The cool thing about this shot is that you can literally use it right next to your body. If someone smashes the ball at you when you're caught too close to the table, the chop block can get you out of that situation.
True
the top spin
You need really good anticipation/reaction time though haha. But yeah, it is a strong reversal to a smash that they won't hit 😁
Coach Tom: Thank you for this session! I am learning lots of new techniques!
crazy pingpong masters: tom and craig.
thanks for your videos.
Koki Niwa style
Another excellent ,very interesting video.
I liked the cheers when Tom got a point.
I have seen various international players start implementing forehand & backhand chop block technique in modern table tennis game.
Big Thank you coach Craig , coach Tom 🙏🏼 soo inspiring .👏🙏🏼💖📸🎬🎥
Tom you’re a good coach, good and correct theory
What a great video. It's a shot a lot of us have seen here or there but I don't think I've ever seen much of a demonstration on it on how to execute it. Great work.
Thank you. I'll be doing more videos with Craig over the coming months.
awesome ,Craig!
really shows how many players simply follow patterns of playing in their rally but
disruptive technique just unrails them as they do not read the spin production of the opponent or maybe they realise something is happening but no proper countermeasure is in place to be triggered.
Koki Niwas setting up of the scene starts with his previous ball inviting/forcing the player to a specific placement allowing him to wait and prepare for his trademark humilating chopblock?
A really really great shot i learned .
Thank you
#love from INDIA
Good stuff, will try it out today.
Everytime i see chop block technique, i always think about Kokiniwa ;))
I think its absolutely fascinating how you make 6 minute video about how to do the thing without really explaining it
Funny, I played this backhand chop block a few weeks ago without knowing it was an actual shot. Just playful tabletennis (very low level) and I tried this and the ball just went 'dead' with a lot of sidespin. My opponent said it was the shot of the evening, while I felt it came easily. Definitely going to try this more often, especially against players who dominate me with their fast topspin forehands.
very valid good tip. thank you.
Great video. Best one yet.
Thanks Roger! It was a lot of fun filming.
Great video 👍🏾👍🏾
Maravilloso. I wost weitin for somting Lakdys. Perfecto.🤗
Nice add knowled for me,i always whatchings yor chanel.
been searching for a forehand chop block like koki niwa's with additional aftermotion hope you can do a vid for that
Thanks Tom. Nice.
Really love your videos! Is it possible to have training on defense or playing as a modern defender? I see very little and it would be helpful. Thanks!
Yes! I agree with you. There is not much out there for defensive players. At some point I will make a video series for defensive players. I can't promise this will happen any time soon, but it is definitely on my list.
Merci pour les explications. Merci pour vos vidéos.
can we do forehand chop block?
Good video!
Good Job
Great video Tom, I use a soft-anti on the backhand which frustrates a lot of players. Will get the robot out and practice this shot, interesting to see the results.
Thanks! Let me know how it goes when you practise with the robot.
I was looking for this lesson for a long time. I'm your newest subscriber. Can you teach the forehand chop block too? And thanks for your vídeos.
I'll certainly add that to my list. Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Tom Lodziak thanks sir.it will be great help
You can watch KOKI NIWA for more action but at-leasewe need to learn it first
Good tutorial
I from Indonesia
Good technique
Similar is to be shone for forehand and please give the thickness of the rubber used by him
Does Craig also use a forehand chop block?
Good video
Super good
Difficult stroke but after sometime I got it. Thank you
Made my first one today ...tell the ball who is the master : Win a point . Fear of missing the shot almost paralyses me .
If you put add some sidespin similar to the penhold side-chopblock style it's the most error proof shot you can play from the backhand.
Nice video
It was a very nice video.You would see me as a professional player in a few years because of your videos
I hope so! Keep training hard and keep learning and I'm sure you will be a very good table tennis player.
Tom , could you make a vid showing the basic qualities needed to become an Excellent player , a perle rare ?
top top notch
Koki niwa famous for this 🤩
is this the same technique as doing a chop block using a long pips?
You sir earned a subscriber 👌👌👌 very informative.👍👍👍
Thank you!
How do you do a FH chop block?
could you please let us know what rubber on the BH side the player is using? Try to add that to (some videos), as it's helpful to know if he's using thick or thin/fast or slow, pimples, etc., especially on the backhand.
TechnoXtreme1
I use Rhyzm P 2.0 on both sides, on a quick blade.
Mantap Lur....
very nice video you are best
Very nice.
Could you tell us what rubber was used for the block? Was it long pip? Short pip? Or normal rubber?
madhav ved
It’s normal rubber (Joola Rhyzm P)
Any rubber is fine
I had a doubt in the forehand loop.Is it compulsory to keep my right leg ahead of my left leg...or is it ok if I do it the other way(keep my left leg ahead of my right leg).PLEASE HELP.
If you are left handed, your right leg should be in front. If you are right handed, your left leg should be in front.
*Coach, please confirm*
Shelter thank you so much. I had a big doubt in this and it was destroying my forehand loop.
Shelter is correct. If left handed, right leg in front. If right handed, left leg in front. One coach explained it to me in this way... The big toe on my right foot should be lined up with my left heel (I'm right handed). This gives me an angle and allows me to twist and transfer my body weight as I play my forehand loops.
the new technique used by top Chinese players is a bit different: they stand with 2 feets level, so they can turn to backhand shot quicker. note that unlike us, for the top players, backhand shot is as important as forehand shot.
This is a block that I think would take time to master, difficult to ensure the timing to use it
Great video! What blade and rubbers is Craig using?
I heard chop block is very difficult to execute with fast racket.
Here's an answer from Craig... "In the video I’m using the Joola Fever blade and Rhythm P (50 degrees) on both sides. The shot will be slight harder to play with fast equipment but the ability to execute the shot is down to the control and feeling a player can develop. For example, I’d be confident in picking up someone else’s racket and being able to execute the same shot."
Koki Niwa! Love Koki Niwa!
Tom, i think you have some problems with your forehand loop technique: when your bat hits the ball, you tend to lower your body a bit (like sitting down). this would reduces the power of your shot, and in my opinion, is a bad habit. If you stand still, but just twist your hip, your shot will be more powerful.
I have many bad habits! Ha! Thanks for the feedback.
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do i hold my grip softly when i do chop block?
You’ll need a fairly relaxed grip but as with most shots, there tends to be a tightening of the grip as you’re contacting the ball.
Koki Niwa~~!!!!🏓
How to do a forehand block on the backhand side.
nice and cool or fastes block
how can you do chop block with Normal Rubber. I use this technique with my Long pimples, as by chopping the top spin, it goes back to the opponent backspin, then some. a bit confused with your chop block using normal rubbers?
You can still do the chop block with an inverted rubber. As Craig is showing, he is brushing down the back of the ball, changing it from topspin to a little backspin. With long pimples the spin change will be more dramatic.
I developed this chop block myself
Then i knew that international players also use it
Hello coach. I'm having trouble executing the chop block as shown in the video. I have no problem controlling the height and speed of the ball, however I find it difficult to keep the ball from flying off the side of the table. Do you have any advice?
Maybe try aiming the shot a little more in the other direction. This should hopefully get the ball to land on the table.
Great Success! Tom Wins! Nice :-) :-) :-)
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This shot is used against a shot with topspin, correct?
specially the slow ones, wich has lots of topspin
Hi. Can the chop block be used against underspin and/or sidespins as well?
Sin Sinner you can use it against side spin but you may have to alter the angle of your racket. Against backspin you would have to flatten your racket out and then you’re effectively pushing the ball BUT by all means, try pushing around the side of the ball, see what effects and success you get with it.
Craig Bryant Thanks. much appreciated.
Craig...the British Koki Niwa..Robert at 67.
Definitely not but appreciate the comparison 😃
my questing is when should I use it?
when the other player is topspinng far from the table
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First.. ❤️
Nice
Koki niwa is best in the best
Can someone explain what is chop block
Why not chop it back? makes it equally difficult for the chop blocker?
Ha! That;s made my head hurt. What would happen if you chop blocked a chop block? Think I will need to experiment with that one!
How does rubber hardness affect the chop block? Soft, med, hard rubbers .... Is there a difference?
Based off my own experiences with chop blocking, softer rubber generates less spin, but the margin for error is smaller. Hard rubbers generate more spin and are more precise, so you really have to angle your bat properly.
TLDR:
Soft rubber=less spin+shorter ball+more control
Hard rubber=more spin+longer ball+requires precision
Hope this helps :)
Here's an answer from Craig... "With any shot, a slow combination of rubber and blade will give more control but the shot is possible with any combination of equipment."
I think it's more deadly and consistent with harder rubbers and more unstable and slower with softer ones. But that's just my experience.
Good question
Rubber quality , it's density
Type of inward pimples type of blade with its sweet spots etc are also..........
Isn’t it basically just a quick as fuck counter to a chop
Also this will help a lot against my friends so thx
4:20 XD
Rubber long pips?
No, just normal inverted rubber, but very good technique!
BOO TOM BOO!
1:22 Tom, here your racket grip is incorrect, right?
Racket grip depends greatly on the size and shape of your hand. Perhaps it would be a bad grip for others, but it seems like a comfortable one for him. I highly doubt he would make such a mistake especially since he's a table tennis coach
My grip is quite high up the handle, which means my finger can rotate a little on to the BH rubber when playing FH strokes (I adjust the grip when playing BH). I have been told be different coaches and players that this is wrong and also that it is fine! So it's a bit of personal preference. As Shelter says, everyone has a different size / shaped hand so I don't think it's possible for everyone to hold the bat in exactly the same way. My grip probably isn't 'perfect', but it seems to work fine for me.
Waldner played his forehand with his index high on the BH rubber.
He then moved to index to the conventional position near the label for backhands.
This made me smile. It's the first time (and last time I'm sure) I have ever been comapred to Waldner! Ha!
Tom Lodziak
You probably get a lot of finger hits on the backhand though. Seems like to much finger movement for transitions FH/BH
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Thats not what I think of a "chop block".
He is not creating very much backspin, but mostly sidespin. This obviously is mich easier and less effective, because its more like a normal block with sidespin.
Ok. What do you think a chop block should be?
@@TomLodziak Maybe we should start calling that signature stroke of Koki Niwa a "side slice" or a "sidespin push"? There's clearly a distinction to be made there! Another thing is that backspin with heavy sidespin becomes corkspin with sidespin! Sometimes the aforementioned Niwa plays his chop blocks (i.e. sidespin pushes) with little backspin, perhaps even some topspin (again perhaps call it corkspin)..?
@@TomLodziak th-cam.com/video/hAkwQq3qoa0/w-d-xo.html (25:02)
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In the demonstration it would have been helpful if the knob (your opponent) tried to return the chop block in stead of letting it go by.
I was trying to return it, but find it very difficult. And please try to moderate your language. Not necessary.
@@TomLodziak
You literally CAUGHT one of his returns. How is that "trying to return" it? Watch the video from our perspective and tell me if you think you made any decent attempts.
@@tc1817 Oh bless you - you really are missing the point of the video. The chop block can cause a lot of confusion, this is why I was having great trouble returning it. The video is demonstrating the effect a chop block can have on your opponent - panic, confusion and mistakes. But thanks for watching and commenting. Have a nice day.
@@TomLodziak
You claim that you were trying to return the chop and couldn't. You CAUGHT one of his serves. Why didn't you hit it??????
is he using long pimple OX?
No, just normal inverted rubber.
Honestly that's not a menacing CB. Your issue is that you chose a poor response to the CB. My conclusion is that you don't have a strong enough backhand counter.
Cool Video! But Craigs servers are all illegal notnehtless! clearly hiding the ball all game!