Got to say that this and the Offensive Set-ups will be a great set of videos for new players (like myself in a way), to help them out to get a basic understanding of a good set up and then over time tweak them up a little bit to fit their play style.
Yep. I think the principle still applies - you muscle up along the line and present an unbashable front - but the illustration is definitely an illegal setup
Love your work on the Bonehead Podcast. You have really done so much good for BB players with the different roster set ups for each team as well as your general commentary. Really love the defensive formations here, heck as someone who's played on and off for years, even I learnt something! Hope you make a Chaos specific formation video soon!
I've wanted to get into blood bowl since the mid 90's and finally pulled the trigger with second season. These are very helpful videos and greatly appreciated.
Yes!! Welcome to the best game out there Nathan!! :D Glad you liked the videos - if you've got any questions at all / get stuck on anything / want some help with anything then let us know here, or drop us an email at TheBoneheadPodcast@Gmail.com!
We are just starting a league here in the States, and we have at least 12 people completely new to blood bowl, 4 more who’ve only played one season (including myself). Thank you so much for doing this series because this is the biggest question we are receiving after they’ve played a game or two. Just wanted to let you know that we’ve shared this video with everyone, so these are very helpful!
I'm sure i've read every article going on strategy and tactics in BB. Yet in 5 years, this is by far not only the simplest and clearest guide, but somehow the broadest and most i depth too. Can't wait for the offensive one. Obviously will ignore everything though and do something stupid instead
Brilliant video idea! Really looking forward to playing soon and while I’m super into blood bowl, I never really watched American football so these kind of concepts are new to me and suuuper helpful for newer players like me :)
The one you call the Chevron I've more often seen as Ziggurat. I like the variation on it where you swap the two lines (only if you have stand firm or side step on the outer corners!) to let the back line be closer to center and better protected.
Really enjoying watching these videos, I’m playing my first game at the end of the month and decided to put together a “playbook” with all your great advice for my Norse team
For the 3-5-3 formation, you'll see the benefit of fend on the los. You can get 2 dices all over with repositioning just 2 players if your opponent has followed up and your smart I'd like to see formations for when your a few players down too! I tend to fall apart once i drop to 9 players as i never know how to line up.
With the throw team mate defense, if you are down a player because Blood Bowl, then move the corners in off the sideline one square towards the center of the pitch and line up the same way from there. It's better than leaving a hole. If you're down any more there will be a gap.
If you have any subs that have artistic ability when your done with your offense and defense formations would you consider making it into a cheap paper back manual? Kinda like an nfl coaches play book. Add a couple good images and I'd pay for it easily.
This was very helpful. I keep thinking of the game as angles and your take on the parallel 4 lines defense has my brain working. Only problem I have is, where do I put the Rat Orge. Despite all statistical evidence contrary, he's my favorite piece. Yarrrr
Even as dwarfs against goblins I don't stack the line. I've tried it and the ball and chain rolled well and took out the three center players by himself. If that line breaks you're conceding about 4 turns worth of stall as well if you're slow like dwarfs are. I will stack the line against running teams if I've managed to reduce them to around 6-8 players on a kick-off and I've developed my guards already.
Not the Formation Friday Format? I feel a bit disapointed xD (and I don't know why, but I'm happy about these videos^^) BTW: your "stacked line" Formation is illegal. 3 guys in the outer zones. To fix that i would recommend to place the Blitzers (B) 3 Squares to the left or the right. In general, most enemies would try to dodge through the Gap of your first and secnd line, ending up in the middle of your defence. By moving the blitzers more to the side this path will be blocked by the B. So your enemy will have to blitz the lineman on the outer field and build a cage over there, but u can react with the B's. PS.: personal i never would recomment this. And i also would disagree with the "throw teammate defence", because u forget, that the big guy can move up 1 row to throw. In your position the stunty has the opportunity to land directly in the safe zone behind your line.
@boneheadpodcast can I mock up all the defensive and offensive plays you put out and put them on paper! I would love to have it on paper, and I think I am not the only one, so I would make the document sharable and printable. I will obviously put your name down on not claim the credit as my own
Two things. I think you are the loudest voice for 7s online you should add that to the playlist of this series and second whenever you talk about throw teammates I remember you throwing a chaos halfling in a 7s game and getting all the luck of the chaos powers in the dice rolls moving perfectly through the defense
Oh this is awsome man Just what I was looking for as its the positioning that had me concerned the most! Doesn't help that 2 out of the 3 teams I've started with have mixed movement mind 🙄
Snotlings for the win. With the stilty runner you've got the potential of 9 movement (thank you sprint!), or the Fun-hoppa and its pogo gives you the ability to cut out two of the three dodges they'd have to make. Makes me all warm and tingly inside just thinking about it 😁
This is great! Thanks Ben! My suggestion vs Throw-Teammate is to spread TZs more to force more dodge dice. Since stunties ignore TZs it makes your suggestion somewhat... resource intensive? -X--X--X--T--T- --------------------- --------------------- -X--X--X-------- The T are Tackle players who remove the dodge skill. Does this format make sense? If you don't have tackle, then I'd centre the back 3 Xs, which lessens the TZs for dodges down the flanks at the assumption that your opponent won't TTM down the flanks. If you have plans for a Part 2, I'd like to chip in as I have a Playbook of sorts haha!!
As a coach who started a few months ago, I’m very excited for this series!
Got to say that this and the Offensive Set-ups will be a great set of videos for new players (like myself in a way), to help them out to get a basic understanding of a good set up and then over time tweak them up a little bit to fit their play style.
The stacked line defense at 18:50 has three players in each wide zone?
I think you would just form a straight line of 7 along the line in the centre here
I agree, this comment was for those new to the game, not realizing that only two players can go in each widezone
Great idea for a series Ben, very helpful to newer players.
Always happy to watch more Bonehead videos. Keep them coming.
A whole series of these would be great
00:20:00 The "Stacked Line" Defence there are 3 players on the side corridors, is that not illegal? Other than that good video mate :)
Looks like Ben used a bribe or two...
Exactly what I was wondering. To my knowledge that is not a legal defensive set up.
Yep. I think the principle still applies - you muscle up along the line and present an unbashable front - but the illustration is definitely an illegal setup
I was looking at the same thing. Not a legal defense set up.
Yeah looks like you would have to put 7 on the LOS and 2 per widezone
Hi, not seen if had already been pointed out but in the "Stacked Defense" you have an error having 3 players per each sideline.
Love your work on the Bonehead Podcast. You have really done so much good for BB players with the different roster set ups for each team as well as your general commentary. Really love the defensive formations here, heck as someone who's played on and off for years, even I learnt something! Hope you make a Chaos specific formation video soon!
Man, this video is exactly the kind of thing i m looking for during Covid issue... getting prepared even if I m not playing that much ...
Thanks !
I've wanted to get into blood bowl since the mid 90's and finally pulled the trigger with second season. These are very helpful videos and greatly appreciated.
Yes!! Welcome to the best game out there Nathan!! :D
Glad you liked the videos - if you've got any questions at all / get stuck on anything / want some help with anything then let us know here, or drop us an email at TheBoneheadPodcast@Gmail.com!
This is a great vid Ben. Perfect for myself 👍
I Just discovered these series, they are the best, thanks!
We are just starting a league here in the States, and we have at least 12 people completely new to blood bowl, 4 more who’ve only played one season (including myself). Thank you so much for doing this series because this is the biggest question we are receiving after they’ve played a game or two. Just wanted to let you know that we’ve shared this video with everyone, so these are very helpful!
Do you play bb2or3 online? I’m in canada and have no one to play locally.
This video was amazing and I hope you continue with the series! A general offensive setup one as well!
Great vid; so useful for us new/returning coaches. One of these specifically for Sevens would be much appreciated
I'm sure i've read every article going on strategy and tactics in BB. Yet in 5 years, this is by far not only the simplest and clearest guide, but somehow the broadest and most i depth too. Can't wait for the offensive one.
Obviously will ignore everything though and do something stupid instead
looking forward to these, especially since I'm a new coach working with a lizard team coming up soon
Props to the new lizard. I haven’t played since 2010 and I just got me some lizards!!!
Very, very, VERY interesting. Cant wait to see the specific team videos!
Essential viewing. I tried to be creative a few games on initial defensive setups--the ones presented in this video are just more functional.
Love the obscenity 🤣☝️🤫🤣
Love this sort of content! Thank you
A "Defens-a-Roo" is a Kangaroo you put right on the line of scrimmage.
Brilliant video idea! Really looking forward to playing soon and while I’m super into blood bowl, I never really watched American football so these kind of concepts are new to me and suuuper helpful for newer players like me :)
The one you call the Chevron I've more often seen as Ziggurat. I like the variation on it where you swap the two lines (only if you have stand firm or side step on the outer corners!) to let the back line be closer to center and better protected.
Really enjoying watching these videos, I’m playing my first game at the end of the month and decided to put together a “playbook” with all your great advice for my Norse team
Great video and if this is a new series it gets a thumbs up from me. 👍
Looking forward to seeing the team specific formations too.
Thanks Ben this is some next level analysis...I feel like I’m in a TED talk. Great vid as always
Haha thanks Zhao Yun! Welcome to my BenTalk ;)
Can't wait for the Snotlings setups! So many possibilities...
For the 3-5-3 formation, you'll see the benefit of fend on the los. You can get 2 dices all over with repositioning just 2 players if your opponent has followed up and your smart
I'd like to see formations for when your a few players down too! I tend to fall apart once i drop to 9 players as i never know how to line up.
Very helpful for a beginner player like myself, much appreciated!
With the throw team mate defense, if you are down a player because Blood Bowl, then move the corners in off the sideline one square towards the center of the pitch and line up the same way from there. It's better than leaving a hole. If you're down any more there will be a gap.
If you have any subs that have artistic ability when your done with your offense and defense formations would you consider making it into a cheap paper back manual? Kinda like an nfl coaches play book. Add a couple good images and I'd pay for it easily.
If that is too much work then a print friendly pdf for patreons might be an easy way to bring in more patreons and still offer some of the value? :)
Very nice video, I can''t wait to see special offensive/defensive formation by team
Which defence should i use against skaven? Iam playing snotlings. Thanks! Great work btw. I love your devotion and work you are putting in to it.
Stacked Line D-Fence is illegal
Love this channel and this is awesome!
Isn't the Stacked line illegal (3 players on wide zones)?
GREAT VIDEO, THANK YOU
This was very helpful. I keep thinking of the game as angles and your take on the parallel 4 lines defense has my brain working.
Only problem I have is, where do I put the Rat Orge. Despite all statistical evidence contrary, he's my favorite piece. Yarrrr
Not sure if this was covered or not but your stacked line defense consisted of 3 guy in each wide zone which is more then what is allowed.
Stacked line defense, is that legal? I thought you could only have x2 in the wing areas.
This is perfect!
Even as dwarfs against goblins I don't stack the line.
I've tried it and the ball and chain rolled well and took out the three center players by himself. If that line breaks you're conceding about 4 turns worth of stall as well if you're slow like dwarfs are. I will stack the line against running teams if I've managed to reduce them to around 6-8 players on a kick-off and I've developed my guards already.
Nice video. I would love a video about defending in zone.
Stacked line is illegal right?
Great video thanks man!!
I'd really love some general formations for sevens
Not the Formation Friday Format? I feel a bit disapointed xD (and I don't know why, but I'm happy about these videos^^)
BTW: your "stacked line" Formation is illegal. 3 guys in the outer zones. To fix that i would recommend to place the Blitzers (B) 3 Squares to the left or the right. In general, most enemies would try to dodge through the Gap of your first and secnd line, ending up in the middle of your defence. By moving the blitzers more to the side this path will be blocked by the B. So your enemy will have to blitz the lineman on the outer field and build a cage over there, but u can react with the B's.
PS.: personal i never would recomment this.
And i also would disagree with the "throw teammate defence", because u forget, that the big guy can move up 1 row to throw. In your position the stunty has the opportunity to land directly in the safe zone behind your line.
How is the stacked line defense legal? I thought only 2 players can occupy the sidelines
I'm playing ogres in a league game soon. I'm thinking column defence...... Norse is my team. Good idea?
@boneheadpodcast can I mock up all the defensive and offensive plays you put out and put them on paper! I would love to have it on paper, and I think I am not the only one, so I would make the document sharable and printable. I will obviously put your name down on not claim the credit as my own
Im confused isnt stacked line an illegal formation?
This is so useful thank you en
Two things. I think you are the loudest voice for 7s online you should add that to the playlist of this series and second whenever you talk about throw teammates I remember you throwing a chaos halfling in a 7s game and getting all the luck of the chaos powers in the dice rolls moving perfectly through the defense
Oh this is awsome man Just what I was looking for as its the positioning that had me concerned the most! Doesn't help that 2 out of the 3 teams I've started with have mixed movement mind 🙄
Snotlings for the win. With the stilty runner you've got the potential of 9 movement (thank you sprint!), or the Fun-hoppa and its pogo gives you the ability to cut out two of the three dodges they'd have to make.
Makes me all warm and tingly inside just thinking about it 😁
...Until you fail and that player is toast!
Are you not required to have 2 players in each of the wings on Defense?
Nope ! You can have UP TO 2 players, but it can be 0
@@_Fabien_B Is that the same on Offense?
Same for both, it's 0-2 players in each wide zone, and at least 3 somewhere along the line. Everything else is up to you.
@@desslaven7935 and @Karr'Wolves Thanks for the clarifications!
This is great! Thanks Ben! My suggestion vs Throw-Teammate is to spread TZs more to force more dodge dice. Since stunties ignore TZs it makes your suggestion somewhat... resource intensive?
-X--X--X--T--T-
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-X--X--X--------
The T are Tackle players who remove the dodge skill. Does this format make sense?
If you don't have tackle, then I'd centre the back 3 Xs, which lessens the TZs for dodges down the flanks at the assumption that your opponent won't TTM down the flanks.
If you have plans for a Part 2, I'd like to chip in as I have a Playbook of sorts haha!!
Stacked line defence is against rules, having 3 players in each wide zone
Hey man - would you like to do some collaboration work? This video is great!
Hey Dude! Thanks, that would be awesome! Drop us an email when you get a chance: theboneheadpodcast@gmail.com
@@BoneheadPodcast Yes! Do this! I am a big fan of both of you.
@@BoneheadPodcast Email sent!
@@mattiasljung317 Great to hear!
Im exited to see this 👍