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Everytime we hear you talk about this game is indication of how much you slept on this. This has long been the BETTER game. Many of the features from 2011 have been updated. Fans just wanted new graphics.
You need to expand your vocabulary because there's no way you actually think he's a hater when we all know EA has dropped trash for the better part of a decade. Truth isn't hate so find a new word.
@@Nedmac5he transferred schools And went back to a bench Warmer he won the Jim Thorpe award in his freshman year…Campus legend..his jersey# couldA been #7 at lsu
The thing that EA has been unable to replicate since PS2 Madden is the smoothness and responsiveness of the player movement. “Next Gen” Madden (PS3/Xbox360 - current) feels too much like trying to steer a boat in outer space. Players feel like they don’t carry any weight even with vibration on lol no sense of impact or force.
The “smoothness and responsiveness” of old was fun but very unrealistic. The current player movement is great. But I do agree that the weight, impact, physics sucks. Was better in nfl 2k5. And it sucks now bc of animations
They haven't been using the same engine, they switched over the Frostbite engine several years ago. They use it for Fifa/fc and fps games and I think that's why Madden feels so unresponsive. Is College 25 going to change this?
Don't have to be perfect just playable... That example he showed actually does affect the game whether it's NCAA or Madden... It's not gonna bother u until you're in the same situation n your lb doesn't respond or move like he's supposed to n u give up a crucial first down or TD
Yeah but at this point it's getting pretty close... All this has to do is get better ball carrier moves because that's what 2k has that was so better. The cutting looked more realistic and in a football game the more realistic the movement the less wonky it looks and the better the game feels. This has better character locomotion than any Madden or NCAA game has ever had. If the cutting was more like NCAA from the PS2 era then this might be better than 2k if you add in all the other modern details that we're seeing in this .. the jukes are good in this but it's just missing something. You should be able to make sharp cuts and double moves while sprinting and it just doesn't have it
@@mattfratamico670 That's a running joke but this game looks like a massive leap. Ryan gave no negatives that are worth anything in this video. If there is anything worse, he would have put it up front with the quickness. This is gonna be the first EA football game I've bought since Madden 19.
@@eduardopena5893yea Ryan can be a bit iffy sometimes on how he puts things because he’s not wrong but sometimes he just says stuff to hate EA rather than actually judge things is my issue. Although he’s usually right when he does judge stuff. I can normally agree with him.
@@eduardopena5893 Yeah, instead he gives a biased opinion without getting paid. Bias can go both ways. Even if he is right a lot of the times, it usually clouds his judgment.
I’m all for some of these in college, especially if it happens based on ratings. Some players are so much worse than elite, they may never react until wayyyy too late.
The only issues I have with the gameplay is the commentary has no energy still. It is miles better than madden, but you can score a game winning td and the commentators are just way too chill. Also, the celebrations are lacking, its always just the player that scores celebrating by themselves, and the rest of the team is just in the background standing still. You want to see your sideline going crazy, and your teammates on the field running to celebrate in the endzone, not 50 different dances for just one player to do, that is not realistic at all.
imo it’s as good as it’s gonna get, commentators for espn aren’t voice actors. it’s hard to read a script and have as much emotion as if you were really watching for example Oklahoma state win the last bedlam, or auburn winning the ironbowl. the issue in most commentary teams is the lack of variety in voice lines, from what I’ve seen there is a good amount of voice lines from each commentator.
As far as being repetitive, It is a football game, a lot of real life football “considered to be repetitive” not much you can change from game to game. If you go to multiple home games, it’s the same intro for each team, nothing wrong with that
This game either shows that the specific devs of madden are trash or madden needs to remove annual releases cfb 25 looks great visually and gameplay wise however, ncaa has always played better than madden
I think the last statement is a major reach The NFL is the biggest sports organization in America. It’s the most watched thing on television. People are always going to want to play with their professional team and players. And as you see “the sheep” will always buy Madden. If EA FINALLY improves Madden it will just be icing on the cake
“Some of this stuff seems like it’ll be repetitive…” oh for sure. First, because it’s a video game. Second, when I watched every home game from Texas Tech my freshman year, EVERYTHING was repetitive… so repetitive makes sense whether you’re at the stadium or watching it broadcast (for what is shown).
So we not going to talk about how NCAA 25 has pulled animations from Madden 10 and 11. Tackles catches, all that. I'm done with video gaming at this point. I KNOW YOU SEE THIS RYAN.
So why can EA do this with college but not madden?? I’m kinda wondering if it’s the nfl itself getting in the way and holding madden back. Idk, maybe someone else could provide those answers.
Money. Money. Money. When ur game generates more revenue every yr despite minimal innovation and improvement, and there is no competitor in the space, there is no incentive to improve the product. It would only serve to reduce profitability.
There are many restrictions imposed by the NFL. However, do note that CFB has been multiple years in the making by a different team, without the pressure of a yearly release. These things do matter quite a bit for the dev cycle. But do expect some CFB gameplay improvements to come to madden eventually.
2:40 Ryan, that is nitpicking on another level. There are thousands of animations in these games. You can't put hundreds of thousands of animations in a game. Of course there are gonna be parts where two players make the same animation when their assignments move them in the same direction. The important thing is that the defenders are moving toward the receivers instead of standing in empty space. While you nitpick that, I celebrate it as the players are actually playing defense.
@@sawyermookie4764 Do you think that's a negative that two players have the same animation? Who gives a crap? Seriously? Both players shifted to cover the back and the receiver instead of just standing there. Who's gonna notice that without slowing the game down while playing? That is what he led with so that's the worst thing he found. If that's the worst thing he found, we are in for a treat of a game. For a guy who constantly rails on EA about animation based gameplay(He is correct about that in Madden), he sure jumped all over NCAA for two players shifting in the same animation to cover two receivers.
there may be thousands of animations (I'm dubious of that number), but the animations that affect the majority of plays on the field are significantly less (probably in the dozens), which is why you see things like this and which ultimately result in stale, predictable gameplay after a month
I said the same thing. sometimes its in the coding to.. sometimes 2 players will do the same reaction and movement, i bet it happens in real life to, maybe not to a T, but its a video game, it happens, and he said the LB wasnt moving and thats how the WR had that big spacing.. ummm the LB was moving the entire time.. maybe not in the right direction at first lol..
@@markellzey1531 again ive said the same thing.. how many times does these nit picking plays actually happen in a entire game, its like sometimes i feel he watches each play 10 times, i know he makes good points to, Id rather 2 players do the same reaction then just stand there till the QB throws the ball, i hated that, ive seen way way worse then this, and there is example on my channel,
The fact that he is okay with this game, as so it seems, makes it worth getting, as he is one of the biggest critics of EA. No ill will meant by saying that.
When you consider the team working on this game is certainly smaller than Madden, I would bet that 80%+ of development is spent on atmosphere, art assets, franchise mode, and music. I would not expect any advancement whatsoever in the core gameplay. If anything, it might be even buggier.
It looks miles better and I’m an EA hater cause of what they do with their games. However, the college fb team put a lot into the game. It’s going to be miles better and the gameplay looks better and it’s not just because of the trailers or showcases but there’s already TH-camrs showing off the dynasty modes and the gameplay which is really solid. I hope people don’t use the UT mode as much but people have gambling addictions 😂
@Ocelotmaniac I hope you are right. I gave up on Madden a decade ago. I also gave up on EA/ Activision. This is like wishing for the next Fast and Furious movie to make sense or be good
@@GM-hm7buI wouldn’t say that. Battlefield games gameplay certainly changes from iteration to iteration despite being on the same engine. The core is still the same but things still feel different often times. I think it needs to change but to say nothing can improve or change based on the engine is illogical.
I think we are overthinking it too much. If anybody loved and enjoyed playing NCAA 14 from a gameplay standpoint I just don’t see how it would be possible not to enjoy CFB 25…there will be glitches and all that but it’s a game it won’t be perfect
The full circle transition is what we all wanted from EA, everyone knows they are capable, its a question of if they can release a solid football game.
With the advent of AI as far as artwork is concerned you'd think they could use that to make crowds with different people in the stands every game. Yeah don't use the AI that makes Nightmare Sauce and six fingers everywhere, but the good stuff could be implemented.
How can any OG supporter of this game even entertain the idea of playing 'Ultimate Team'? I thought we were all after one thing: taking some trash 1-2 star program and making them the next dynasty.
@@stans4714ur gonna see a fair amt of issues but it certainly does seem a bit better. My favorite thing is just how elite the elite olineman are against bad dlineman. It honestly looks great when you have that skill gap up front.
@@crimsonchin8916 I hope I don’t see lineman just back up, not touch the guy & allow me to take a sack. Or the RB just look at someone run by on a blitz
First & foremost, I know I’m late but glad to know you’re in good health & still prospering 🙏🏼 Now pertaining to this game: I think if they continue to move into the direction that they are heading, little by little, they’ll be shedding some of the bad Madden that we’ve come to “love.” I might get this when it’s on sale but we’ll see. Still waiting to see what 2K is gonna do with their football game.
I played MUT one year. After building a great team for that one year I lost interest in ever doing it again. Dynasty and Franchise modes are the best...
Ryan can’t lose this year. He has two separate games to do commentary on. Either Madden will suck very badly or it will improve. And he’ll have NCAA to compare and contrast it to.😂
We just always crank reaction and coverage up to 100 in our private league. But on-line the default screws ya and relies waaay too much on user. I say time and time again, it’s unrealistic to see the entire field immediately post snap by offense which is a tremendous unrealistic advantage. Create a primary pre snap, that way there is a slight delay on throwing to your 2, 3 read play depending. Not a throw cone, but a natural pre snap progression read. That’s where disguise coverage comes in. Then tie your safety play to an attribute called eyes or as part of awareness, same w QB. How quickly he can throw from one read to his second to his 3rd and how closely the defenders follow his “eyes”. Something to play with as it’s part of real game. Safety play is always a problem because there is no nuance in play with this.
this is the thing.. does EA even have ppl on staff that understand these concepts? if not, then not even a "patch" will fix these issues as they do not have the apparatus in place to even address these things
@@GM-hm7bu they actually have this feature in the playcall screen while selecting plays, it’s apart of the coaching adjustments at least for previous maddens so i would assume this feature is in college football 25
There’s nobody in the flat brother….Nobody covers grass in real life or you would be cut from the team….You would bracket until a threat (WR/RB/TE or QB taking off towards that flat) shows up in the flats….
In a lot of ways, this feels like we're sorta kinda back to where we were 2 decades ago. Only this time, the dropoff in quality between NCAA and Madden is at its widest and I don't see the gap closing anytime soon. I'm waiting to see how this game shakes out with the patches, how it cleans up after release and then decide if it's worth buying a PS5 to get this game. EA really surprised me on this out the box and if they don't slouch off on this and seriously improve it with each year, this game can carry them through the next decade.
I just wish we could upgrade the stadium capacity in dynasty. There are so many cool teams that I want to rebuild but them having a 20,000 capacity kinda ruins it for me
The best way to keep NCAA and Madden popular with out really one dropping off too much for the other is do what was done in the past and be able to export Draft classes to the NFL. I head heard some where that it is difficult for them to do this because of NIL and contracts with NFLPA and other stuff that was not much of an obstacle back then. I have not watched too much about NCAA 25 yet so who knows maybe it is in there? But if not There needs to be a way to find a way to put it for NCAA 26 at least. Although I would not be surprised to see a PC mod to allow such a thing.
Turn the coverage sliders up but yeah the DB isn’t giving up the inside so yeah the slot can run a quick out. That’s just what happens on these routes both in game and in reality!!!
Maybe EA realizes they won’t get the exclusive license back and has chosen to invest into college football moving forward more so than trying to fix madden…
I’m def hype for this game, but Why do the crowds always look so bad? I was hoping they’d have a make your fan feature like they did back in the old days
i understand your point that this may undercut madden, but considering this has been in development for several year it is essentially madden 1.5. like you said it may be marginally better, and that is disappointing.
Maybe it's me, maybe it's the learning curve, but I just played this yesterday and am generally a pretty good Madden player, despite hating the game. That being said, anyone finding the Pass Coverage is super slow, laggy, "dumb?" I used Michigan, who has Will Johnson, the BEST OVERALL PLAYER IN THE GAME at 96 overall, and he consistently got cooked by some Low 80's ranked WR on the other team. Man, Zone, didn't matter. In Zone him, and the rest of the defense stood flat footed and was slow to react, and in Press Man, receivers were coming off the line freely with zero "Jam." Maybe they'll patch it, but that is my biggest issue so far with the game.......also keeping in mind i've only played 2 games so far, but the pass coverage is somehow worse than Madden so far......IMO
Anyone notice that in Madden, when you put a guy in motion, the D back actually moves before your guy and then beats him to the spot like he has a crystal ball.....
At this point why dont they just combine the games into one?… a person could play from high school to thw hall of fame. F it, you could start in pop warner or middle school 😂😂😂😂 they could completely change the sports gaming world if they wanted to. They have never had all the rights and abilities to do this in the past. Imagine the selling points they would be able to market.
i'm not a big gaymer - but i will be playing the hell out of this game. Thank you for your constant objectivity and honest perspective in evaluating this game for what it is (and not the hype)
Well ive seen multiple clips of Madden players talking about playing Madden 25 and now CAN NOT go back and play 24. It makes 24 unplsyable. So lets hope thsts the case
The alabama vs Auburn game i saw looked great but had flaws. The ohio st vs penn state game i saw was damn near perfect. So i must admit it was good so far
You love to nit pick the same thing. 2:47 have you considered that this is a zone play? When the play is in motion. Even maybe if it’s on Cover 1 spy. So there is a mismatch. But also consider the AI LB awareness. Also if you want to talk about cut scenes and the intro that’s going to be the same thing that you will only see for 15-20 seconds. Like come on dude you play the game. Your gonna have 132 collegiate intro’s not identical. Collegiate intros are traditional in different ways and you pick the away team intro like it’s do or die. Also you talked about TD celebrations being cuts scenes with no player on the field behind the celebration look at NTE Gameplay after a touchdown when he plays in the Iron Bowl. Where you can see the other players behind the TD celebration.
My question is when we're being critical of the AI performance are we taking into consideration that players skills is it possible that when taking into consideration the actual abilities program into that AI player that they might make some of the mistakes pointed out?
How great would it be if this game is the downfall of the Madden franchise. You know if CFB25 receives overwhelming positive reviews, Madden may see a drop in how many copies are sold and have to step up and if they don't maybe, just maybe they will lose the exclusive license. Of course we all know that is unfortunately very unlikely since both the NFL and EA love money. The MUT lickspittles will ensure that Madden continues to rake in the coin.
the problem isn't EA having the license, the problem is the license is EXCLUSIVE which means no competition ALL products/people suffer with lack of competition/motivation the next company to receive the exclusive license would end up the same way at this point the NFL is just too big and powerful - they look at these video games as NFL ads, so they make sure to control whomever they give the license to outside of a law banning exclusive licenses in video games, simulation NFL video games are probably dead forever
As someone who has the game on pre-order, who knows how this will be once the game releases, since the game became Downloadable (about last week) it has already been patched/updated like 3 times, and it's not even playable yet.
Yea Scott Gallagher legit talked about how they saw things from TH-camrs that gave them ideas of stuff to add. Like they said they’d add in a patch where u can apply equipment to RTG players who have minor wear and tear that would reduce the actual wear and tear but still leave a slight minor debuff to stats
The only thing I'm having an issue with is the extremely limited player editing. I'm totally fine with not being able to edit names and physical appearances for both real and AI players but not being able to edit player ratings? What if I wanted to take the crummiest school but make just the QB a 99 OVR demigod to see if he can win games as a one-man army? Or make an incoming recruit a 99 OVR just to see the bidding war that would cause
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Everytime we hear you talk about this game is indication of how much you slept on this. This has long been the BETTER game. Many of the features from 2011 have been updated. Fans just wanted new graphics.
Madden should've looked like this a DECADE AGO....
It was like this back in Madden 06
06 was the last Great Madden, in my opinion @AuburnFanSince2010
Yk EA cooked when even RyanMoody21 isn’t hating 🙏🏿😭
You need to expand your vocabulary because there's no way you actually think he's a hater when we all know EA has dropped trash for the better part of a decade. Truth isn't hate so find a new word.
@@TheBrotherHoodSportsthe game ain't 10 years of videos bad lol
@@YungCed That still doesn't make him a hater. It's that simple.
@@YungCedhow when EA has dropped 10yrs worth of terrible games. You sound like a 🤡
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QJB was on Heisman Difficulty. He’s just that good at playing CB. Real ones know who he is
He skimmed the bama vs FSU game
@@Nedmac5he had to sim because he wasn’t high enough on the depth chart to play
Damn
@@Nedmac5he transferred schools And went back to a bench Warmer he won the Jim Thorpe award in his freshman year…Campus legend..his jersey# couldA been #7 at lsu
Yea he is a dawg he is so good makes me mad that im so bad 😂
They made good use of the Revamped team
1000%
Agreed!!
Yep.. that's exactly what it is huh 🤣🤣
They hired 4-5 guys off the revamped team. 2 of which are producers on the game. This is a game made by the community, for the community.
@@threefivesevenusing the same legacy code. Yeah totally new
Only thing missing is progressive day to night transitions. That’s the only issue
That’s a want not an issue. But I do feel you.
13 had it.
@@mr.Noshadow 2002 had it
Yes! Why isn’t there dynamic lighting in a game with much detail… I hope they can patch this in.
@@jpmultimedia7207 especially since it's in Madden
The thing that EA has been unable to replicate since PS2 Madden is the smoothness and responsiveness of the player movement.
“Next Gen” Madden (PS3/Xbox360 - current) feels too much like trying to steer a boat in outer space. Players feel like they don’t carry any weight even with vibration on lol no sense of impact or force.
yup because they've been using the same engine for 20 years - renamed many times
The “smoothness and responsiveness” of old was fun but very unrealistic. The current player movement is great. But I do agree that the weight, impact, physics sucks. Was better in nfl 2k5. And it sucks now bc of animations
I don’t really get how yall thought it was smooth when players would literally bounce off each other at times as if the other guy wasn’t there.
I hundred percent agree
They haven't been using the same engine, they switched over the Frostbite engine several years ago.
They use it for Fifa/fc and fps games and I think that's why Madden feels so unresponsive. Is College 25 going to change this?
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I know he has to get his ads in, but damn pretty soon its gonna be 2 minutes of ads before he starts his videos lol
At the end of the day, it’s a video game, it won’t be perfect for people. As long as it’s fun and actually competitive I’m all in.
No shit captain obvious
@@smithworld4lifeshut up
Realistic AI CPu ...
At the end of the day the bars in hell and frostbite is still ass .
Don't have to be perfect just playable... That example he showed actually does affect the game whether it's NCAA or Madden... It's not gonna bother u until you're in the same situation n your lb doesn't respond or move like he's supposed to n u give up a crucial first down or TD
They can let the NFL license go now
I don't think y'all realize it's just a game 😂 it will never be perfect 🤦🏿♂️ it's 10x better than any other football games on the market
2:19 look at the GINOURMOUS cheerleader. She's bigger than the football players!
Yes fuq Florida state
She must be from San Antonio
Mommy
I do agree with the intro to make it not repetitive wish they could add more camera angles
madden outta here
How? It's the same fucking company.
@@clintjefferson4391different devs
@@gusibarra4053 I get that, but the devs aren't running the business side of the company.
Bn outta here
@@MajorLeague2423 Speak English.
CF25 look like it’s heading in the right direction!
A step in the right direction, but they ran the wrong play, fumbled the ball, and got a season ending injury.
@@eduardopena5893 44 look promising!
EA knows that 2K will be making a college football game. Since they do not own the rights, they are trying to get ahead of the competition.
is this confirmed ?
2K could and should make a college football game. There's no exclusive rights.
Not right now😏
Lazy 2k
@@MonarchNation34 2k had the best college football game in 2003. It was going the route of NFL 2k5 if they would have kept going.
@@bv7078nah ncaa 14 imo is the best
One of the guys who helped 2k is one of the main people who helped in making this College Football game lol
That instant pick up block from the ai right after the pick was beautiful
I haven't bought a madden game in like 15 years and I'm hype for this game.
Damn never thought I'd see you on here. Hope you're doing well. You still in touch with Bruce and the guys?
Just a reminder that NFL 2k5 still has better gameplay
At least this is a big step in the right direction.
Yeah but at this point it's getting pretty close... All this has to do is get better ball carrier moves because that's what 2k has that was so better. The cutting looked more realistic and in a football game the more realistic the movement the less wonky it looks and the better the game feels. This has better character locomotion than any Madden or NCAA game has ever had. If the cutting was more like NCAA from the PS2 era then this might be better than 2k if you add in all the other modern details that we're seeing in this .. the jukes are good in this but it's just missing something. You should be able to make sharp cuts and double moves while sprinting and it just doesn't have it
And it doesn’t work on current consoles, go away
@@mattfratamico670 That's a running joke but this game looks like a massive leap. Ryan gave no negatives that are worth anything in this video. If there is anything worse, he would have put it up front with the quickness. This is gonna be the first EA football game I've bought since Madden 19.
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When the biggest hater of all time isn’t hating you did something right
We hope you continue to not enjoy madden. For the good of gaming.
I actually like ur vids bc I feel like I’m gonna see what’s wrong with the game but u also say when it’s good, feels like other ytubers only say good
He's not paid by EA to give a biased opinion.
@@eduardopena5893 true
@@eduardopena5893yea Ryan can be a bit iffy sometimes on how he puts things because he’s not wrong but sometimes he just says stuff to hate EA rather than actually judge things is my issue. Although he’s usually right when he does judge stuff. I can normally agree with him.
@@crimsonchin8916 So he's right, but you just don't like him.
@@eduardopena5893 Yeah, instead he gives a biased opinion without getting paid. Bias can go both ways. Even if he is right a lot of the times, it usually clouds his judgment.
This game is Madden…just with college teams instead. 🤷🏽♂️
Why does EA get a free pass after putting out shitty football for 20 years. Isn't this proof that they knew better?
They haven’t cared about Madden over a decade now…. They have been banking because of no competition… RIP 2K5
I’m all for some of these in college, especially if it happens based on ratings. Some players are so much worse than elite, they may never react until wayyyy too late.
The only issues I have with the gameplay is the commentary has no energy still. It is miles better than madden, but you can score a game winning td and the commentators are just way too chill. Also, the celebrations are lacking, its always just the player that scores celebrating by themselves, and the rest of the team is just in the background standing still. You want to see your sideline going crazy, and your teammates on the field running to celebrate in the endzone, not 50 different dances for just one player to do, that is not realistic at all.
Ya commentators are interesting I want Chris Fowler to bring out that voice he does
I think there are multiple commentary teams so maybe the other teams are better
best commentary ever is still in a damn near 20 year old baseball game. the technology is there - it's a motivation/time issue
imo it’s as good as it’s gonna get, commentators for espn aren’t voice actors. it’s hard to read a script and have as much emotion as if you were really watching for example Oklahoma state win the last bedlam, or auburn winning the ironbowl. the issue in most commentary teams is the lack of variety in voice lines, from what I’ve seen there is a good amount of voice lines from each commentator.
If you want realism touch grass.
As far as being repetitive, It is a football game, a lot of real life football “considered to be repetitive” not much you can change from game to game. If you go to multiple home games, it’s the same intro for each team, nothing wrong with that
Never stop making these Ryan
If this man ain’t hating on a game then I don’t know what else to say
This game either shows that the specific devs of madden are trash or madden needs to remove annual releases cfb 25 looks great visually and gameplay wise however, ncaa has always played better than madden
I think the last statement is a major reach
The NFL is the biggest sports organization in America. It’s the most watched thing on television.
People are always going to want to play with their professional team and players. And as you see “the sheep” will always buy Madden. If EA FINALLY improves Madden it will just be icing on the cake
“Some of this stuff seems like it’ll be repetitive…” oh for sure. First, because it’s a video game. Second, when I watched every home game from Texas Tech my freshman year, EVERYTHING was repetitive… so repetitive makes sense whether you’re at the stadium or watching it broadcast (for what is shown).
Even Clint knows Madden is cooked.
I played madden 25 and it doesn’t come close to college football, it’s terrible to me
So we not going to talk about how NCAA 25 has pulled animations from Madden 10 and 11. Tackles catches, all that. I'm done with video gaming at this point. I KNOW YOU SEE THIS RYAN.
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So why can EA do this with college but not madden?? I’m kinda wondering if it’s the nfl itself getting in the way and holding madden back. Idk, maybe someone else could provide those answers.
Money. Money. Money.
When ur game generates more revenue every yr despite minimal innovation and improvement, and there is no competitor in the space, there is no incentive to improve the product. It would only serve to reduce profitability.
It’s because it’s a different developer crew who actually cares vs one that doesn’t.
Only thing nfl holding ea back on is customizing everything else falls on laziness by ea
Because the NFL put more restrictions on Madden apparently that's why you don't see things like helmets pop off or concussions
There are many restrictions imposed by the NFL. However, do note that CFB has been multiple years in the making by a different team, without the pressure of a yearly release. These things do matter quite a bit for the dev cycle. But do expect some CFB gameplay improvements to come to madden eventually.
2:40 Ryan, that is nitpicking on another level. There are thousands of animations in these games. You can't put hundreds of thousands of animations in a game. Of course there are gonna be parts where two players make the same animation when their assignments move them in the same direction. The important thing is that the defenders are moving toward the receivers instead of standing in empty space. While you nitpick that, I celebrate it as the players are actually playing defense.
Bro it's called a critique, why don't you guys go to professional game review site and call them out for their "nit-picking"?
@@sawyermookie4764 Do you think that's a negative that two players have the same animation? Who gives a crap? Seriously? Both players shifted to cover the back and the receiver instead of just standing there. Who's gonna notice that without slowing the game down while playing? That is what he led with so that's the worst thing he found. If that's the worst thing he found, we are in for a treat of a game.
For a guy who constantly rails on EA about animation based gameplay(He is correct about that in Madden), he sure jumped all over NCAA for two players shifting in the same animation to cover two receivers.
there may be thousands of animations (I'm dubious of that number), but the animations that affect the majority of plays on the field are significantly less (probably in the dozens), which is why you see things like this and which ultimately result in stale, predictable gameplay after a month
I said the same thing. sometimes its in the coding to.. sometimes 2 players will do the same reaction and movement, i bet it happens in real life to, maybe not to a T, but its a video game, it happens, and he said the LB wasnt moving and thats how the WR had that big spacing.. ummm the LB was moving the entire time.. maybe not in the right direction at first lol..
@@markellzey1531 again ive said the same thing.. how many times does these nit picking plays actually happen in a entire game, its like sometimes i feel he watches each play 10 times, i know he makes good points to, Id rather 2 players do the same reaction then just stand there till the QB throws the ball, i hated that, ive seen way way worse then this, and there is example on my channel,
The fact that he is okay with this game, as so it seems, makes it worth getting, as he is one of the biggest critics of EA. No ill will meant by saying that.
EA Sports doesn’t develop MAdden or CFB. It’s the publisher. EA Tiburon develops Madden and CFB is developed by another team
When you consider the team working on this game is certainly smaller than Madden, I would bet that 80%+ of development is spent on atmosphere, art assets, franchise mode, and music. I would not expect any advancement whatsoever in the core gameplay. If anything, it might be even buggier.
I mean, NCAA/College Football has always been buggy as hell.
there can be no advancement in gameplay if you're using the same engine
It looks miles better and I’m an EA hater cause of what they do with their games. However, the college fb team put a lot into the game. It’s going to be miles better and the gameplay looks better and it’s not just because of the trailers or showcases but there’s already TH-camrs showing off the dynasty modes and the gameplay which is really solid. I hope people don’t use the UT mode as much but people have gambling addictions 😂
@Ocelotmaniac I hope you are right. I gave up on Madden a decade ago. I also gave up on EA/ Activision.
This is like wishing for the next Fast and Furious movie to make sense or be good
@@GM-hm7buI wouldn’t say that. Battlefield games gameplay certainly changes from iteration to iteration despite being on the same engine. The core is still the same but things still feel different often times. I think it needs to change but to say nothing can improve or change based on the engine is illogical.
Lower level players will play bad there’s a different this year high level guys will play great
I think we are overthinking it too much. If anybody loved and enjoyed playing NCAA 14 from a gameplay standpoint I just don’t see how it would be possible not to enjoy CFB 25…there will be glitches and all that but it’s a game it won’t be perfect
If Ryan gives his blessing then im on it 😂 its been a long road madden ✌🏾 bring back blitz the league and ill drop everything tho
Madden is cooked this year because College has always been the better game.
The full circle transition is what we all wanted from EA, everyone knows they are capable, its a question of if they can release a solid football game.
Took off Tuesday and Friday. Officially hyped
With the advent of AI as far as artwork is concerned you'd think they could use that to make crowds with different people in the stands every game. Yeah don't use the AI that makes Nightmare Sauce and six fingers everywhere, but the good stuff could be implemented.
How can any OG supporter of this game even entertain the idea of playing 'Ultimate Team'? I thought we were all after one thing: taking some trash 1-2 star program and making them the next dynasty.
Yea this game looks good. Ngl it looks very good. First thing I watch is the o line. They have coded o line the right way. It’s good 👍🏿
& that is what I hate most about. I hope o line logic is better in this game
@@stans4714ur gonna see a fair amt of issues but it certainly does seem a bit better. My favorite thing is just how elite the elite olineman are against bad dlineman. It honestly looks great when you have that skill gap up front.
@@crimsonchin8916 I hope I don’t see lineman just back up, not touch the guy & allow me to take a sack. Or the RB just look at someone run by on a blitz
@@stans4714 they seem better that way and everything but unused blockers still just kinda roam it seems
First & foremost, I know I’m late but glad to know you’re in good health & still prospering 🙏🏼
Now pertaining to this game: I think if they continue to move into the direction that they are heading, little by little, they’ll be shedding some of the bad Madden that we’ve come to “love.” I might get this when it’s on sale but we’ll see. Still waiting to see what 2K is gonna do with their football game.
I played MUT one year. After building a great team for that one year I lost interest in ever doing it again. Dynasty and Franchise modes are the best...
Ryan. Do you think that College Football football will beat out Madden going forward due to the restraints that the NFL puts on Madden as well?
Ryan can’t lose this year. He has two separate games to do commentary on. Either Madden will suck very badly or it will improve. And he’ll have NCAA to compare and contrast it to.😂
Should be a huge season for sure.
Pretty upset they didn’t add Ultimate Team Squads.. that’s pretty much all my buddies and I play.
Hopefully an update in the future.
We just always crank reaction and coverage up to 100 in our private league. But on-line the default screws ya and relies waaay too much on user. I say time and time again, it’s unrealistic to see the entire field immediately post snap by offense which is a tremendous unrealistic advantage. Create a primary pre snap, that way there is a slight delay on throwing to your 2, 3 read play depending. Not a throw cone, but a natural pre snap progression read. That’s where disguise coverage comes in. Then tie your safety play to an attribute called eyes or as part of awareness, same w QB. How quickly he can throw from one read to his second to his 3rd and how closely the defenders follow his “eyes”. Something to play with as it’s part of real game. Safety play is always a problem because there is no nuance in play with this.
3:36 the safety in flat zone technique his responsibility is not to bracket unless the coverage is in a match zone coverage
this is the thing.. does EA even have ppl on staff that understand these concepts? if not, then not even a "patch" will fix these issues as they do not have the apparatus in place to even address these things
@@GM-hm7bu they actually have this feature in the playcall screen while selecting plays, it’s apart of the coaching adjustments at least for previous maddens so i would assume this feature is in college football 25
There’s nobody in the flat brother….Nobody covers grass in real life or you would be cut from the team….You would bracket until a threat (WR/RB/TE or QB taking off towards that flat) shows up in the flats….
@@freddygee3558 okay he then just eyes the qb
In a lot of ways, this feels like we're sorta kinda back to where we were 2 decades ago. Only this time, the dropoff in quality between NCAA and Madden is at its widest and I don't see the gap closing anytime soon.
I'm waiting to see how this game shakes out with the patches, how it cleans up after release and then decide if it's worth buying a PS5 to get this game. EA really surprised me on this out the box and if they don't slouch off on this and seriously improve it with each year, this game can carry them through the next decade.
Love the scoreboard but wish they would add more
I just wish we could upgrade the stadium capacity in dynasty. There are so many cool teams that I want to rebuild but them having a 20,000 capacity kinda ruins it for me
The game looks fun, I can’t hate. Just shows how bad the Madden team is because the college football team cooked.
Can't believe they screwed up the legendary rtg camera
The best way to keep NCAA and Madden popular with out really one dropping off too much for the other is do what was done in the past and be able to export Draft classes to the NFL. I head heard some where that it is difficult for them to do this because of NIL and contracts with NFLPA and other stuff that was not much of an obstacle back then. I have not watched too much about NCAA 25 yet so who knows maybe it is in there? But if not There needs to be a way to find a way to put it for NCAA 26 at least. Although I would not be surprised to see a PC mod to allow such a thing.
You’re running up & down a field catching a ball it’s gonna get repetitive regardless 😂😂
I am speechless I didn't think EA were capable of this, I am finally buying my first American football game since madden 19
What's hilarious is people have been trying to say this for months and nobody wanted to believe it, including you. Eating your words, Ryan? 🤔
NEVER!
Turn the coverage sliders up but yeah the DB isn’t giving up the inside so yeah the slot can run a quick out. That’s just what happens on these routes both in game and in reality!!!
Folks already saying they don't want to buy madden this year
You know if Madden sped up their gameplay it would be fine
Maybe EA realizes they won’t get the exclusive license back and has chosen to invest into college football moving forward more so than trying to fix madden…
QJB said he was on heisman difficulty. Real ones know he’s just that good at CB. He baits the computer a lot
I wonder how many things EA is going to take out going into CFB 26
ay if ryan ain’t hating on anything yk this game is legit😂😂
They should add all those elite busts like Manziel or Jamarcus Russell
I’m def hype for this game, but Why do the crowds always look so bad? I was hoping they’d have a make your fan feature like they did back in the old days
Y’all madden dropped our expectations for football simulation games. “WHAT DID THEY DO TO US?”
i understand your point that this may undercut madden, but considering this has been in development for several year it is essentially madden 1.5. like you said it may be marginally better, and that is disappointing.
Maybe it's me, maybe it's the learning curve, but I just played this yesterday and am generally a pretty good Madden player, despite hating the game. That being said, anyone finding the Pass Coverage is super slow, laggy, "dumb?" I used Michigan, who has Will Johnson, the BEST OVERALL PLAYER IN THE GAME at 96 overall, and he consistently got cooked by some Low 80's ranked WR on the other team. Man, Zone, didn't matter. In Zone him, and the rest of the defense stood flat footed and was slow to react, and in Press Man, receivers were coming off the line freely with zero "Jam."
Maybe they'll patch it, but that is my biggest issue so far with the game.......also keeping in mind i've only played 2 games so far, but the pass coverage is somehow worse than Madden so far......IMO
Anyone notice that in Madden, when you put a guy in motion, the D back actually moves before your guy and then beats him to the spot like he has a crystal ball.....
The only reason I would even consider buying madden this year is because you can import your college player into it.
I need Charlie Ward for my FSU Ultimate team
At this point why dont they just combine the games into one?… a person could play from high school to thw hall of fame. F it, you could start in pop warner or middle school 😂😂😂😂 they could completely change the sports gaming world if they wanted to. They have never had all the rights and abilities to do this in the past. Imagine the selling points they would be able to market.
Well, you said they were two years behind in terms of development and overall performance satisfaction with madden so it just makes sense.
i'm not a big gaymer - but i will be playing the hell out of this game. Thank you for your constant objectivity and honest perspective in evaluating this game for what it is (and not the hype)
This is beta game play not early release gameplay.
3:59 He was running opposite end n reacts with rest of Ai. Cmon. 😂😂😂😂
Madden 06 was anything but basic if you played 99-05
CUT is going to be fun with solo seasons
Well ive seen multiple clips of Madden players talking about playing Madden 25 and now CAN NOT go back and play 24. It makes 24 unplsyable. So lets hope thsts the case
The alabama vs Auburn game i saw looked great but had flaws. The ohio st vs penn state game i saw was damn near perfect. So i must admit it was good so far
You can't judge gameplay until you play the game. It may look good but I bet it plays like an interactive film.
Franchise mode gonna need to step it up
You love to nit pick the same thing.
2:47 have you considered that this is a zone play? When the play is in motion. Even maybe if it’s on Cover 1 spy. So there is a mismatch. But also consider the AI LB awareness.
Also if you want to talk about cut scenes and the intro that’s going to be the same thing that you will only see for 15-20 seconds. Like come on dude you play the game. Your gonna have 132 collegiate intro’s not identical. Collegiate intros are traditional in different ways and you pick the away team intro like it’s do or die. Also you talked about TD celebrations being cuts scenes with no player on the field behind the celebration look at NTE Gameplay after a touchdown when he plays in the Iron Bowl. Where you can see the other players behind the TD celebration.
My question is when we're being critical of the AI performance are we taking into consideration that players skills is it possible that when taking into consideration the actual abilities program into that AI player that they might make some of the mistakes pointed out?
Have Ryan Moody and the Moodites had a change of heart😮
How great would it be if this game is the downfall of the Madden franchise. You know if CFB25 receives overwhelming positive reviews, Madden may see a drop in how many copies are sold and have to step up and if they don't maybe, just maybe they will lose the exclusive license. Of course we all know that is unfortunately very unlikely since both the NFL and EA love money. The MUT lickspittles will ensure that Madden continues to rake in the coin.
the problem isn't EA having the license, the problem is the license is EXCLUSIVE
which means no competition
ALL products/people suffer with lack of competition/motivation
the next company to receive the exclusive license would end up the same way
at this point the NFL is just too big and powerful - they look at these video games as NFL ads, so they make sure to control whomever they give the license to
outside of a law banning exclusive licenses in video games, simulation NFL video games are probably dead forever
I honestly don't give a single shit about madden now.
As someone who has the game on pre-order, who knows how this will be once the game releases, since the game became Downloadable (about last week) it has already been patched/updated like 3 times, and it's not even playable yet.
Yea Scott Gallagher legit talked about how they saw things from TH-camrs that gave them ideas of stuff to add. Like they said they’d add in a patch where u can apply equipment to RTG players who have minor wear and tear that would reduce the actual wear and tear but still leave a slight minor debuff to stats
The only thing I'm having an issue with is the extremely limited player editing. I'm totally fine with not being able to edit names and physical appearances for both real and AI players but not being able to edit player ratings? What if I wanted to take the crummiest school but make just the QB a 99 OVR demigod to see if he can win games as a one-man army? Or make an incoming recruit a 99 OVR just to see the bidding war that would cause
Madden is too big to fail. It will never be done as long as the NFL allows them to have the exclusive license.