Cancel culture has never made sense to me as a Kenyan. I don't even know where it came from. "But we're human. Like everyone has flaws so instead of hiding it why can't we just embrace it." I wonder too. "The world's a messed up place." It truly is.😔😕
I'm a Gen X Canadian and it doesn't make sense to me as well. It is a phenomenon that has arrived in the latest years. While I understand the principle and it was, at first, coming from a good idea, it has now become something super toxic and doesn't even allow people to have their own opinion and express them.
It started with a good purpose, to make companies and famous people responsable of their actions. But right now it's out of control. I still think that it can be good sometimes. If a company do evil things and they are not punished by law, it's just fair that customers boicot that company, but it should never be about other people private lifes
@@cassiopee26 , as a Gen Z I don't know where and how it started and I get my generation are trying to be thoughtful but nowadays it's like.... Too much. People are becoming wimpy over words and deeds even if someone is being polite and saying the truth and that's coming from a Highly Sensitive Person. LOL😆
Cancelling started as wanting to hold people accountable for their actions, nothing wrong with that if it was about corporate greed or illegal deportations but now it really is just an excuse to dump on individuals for nitpicky issues.
No. Accountability was a thing before "cancelling." Cancelling, by the time that term was actually used for it, was *always* going too far. I'm old enough and I was active online enough at the time to know. While a few people used the term to apply to justifiable attempts at accountability, it was never a thing until it was being abused in the "overly sensitive" way (innocent or at least not that bad things seen as horrible) or the "fascistic" way (as previous but more malicious, often for political reasons) or the "too far" way (accountability was actually needed but the mob pushed for far more than was ethical to push for), usually all three. (... But I'm guessing from your comment that you _like_ and would defend the fascistic way. "Illegal deportations" my eye.)
I'm still so freaking mad about Soojin leaving the group. And poor Garam. Seriously, it's ridiculous how people's careers and lives are over because of false accusations. I would just sue the shit out of the accusers for every last penny they have for defamation of character or whatever
@@batataloubya6555 I'm not sure about Garam, but in Soojin's case it was depicted as false accusations. I don't put my hand on the fire for any idol, but the justice (Justice? Y'know, the legal system and attorneys and all lolol) said they were false, so that's what should counts as we weren't really there to see. And it really sucks that false accusations led you to stop being loved by the media
@@barbiemary67 i don't follow gidle closely but i did follow the bullying case and if i remember correctly, soojin stated that if the allegations were true she'd leave the group, which she did. Not sure if there was an update proving none of it was true after the events and the court report🤷 they dealt with the situation horribly and ended up shooting themselves in the foot unfortunately.
the worst people are the ones hating on them and bullying them back. The moment a famous person does something wrong, everyone acts like they themselves are so innocent and have never made mistakes when they were younger.
@@yara22yara actually no I wasn’t assuming you were it, I was simply responding as an example of how the game goes on forever because of all of the back and forth between the players saying, “You’re it, no you’re it.” I don’t care if I’m cancelled so 🤷🏽♀️.
The bits about Korean hating on others success is actually true, even though it's probably normal no matter what race you are. But here even by being happy people would start assuming so much, even going as far as calling you "inconsiderate to those who are unhappy". So my advice, if you want to be happy, either you do it in private or deaf yourself and ignore them.
I agree with you about that, hating on success is plain envy. Being envious is an unhealthy lifestyle, and it really says more about the people envying than who they are envious of. It's just unnecessary hate and jealousy. My mum always says stuff like "poor people are better people inside than rich people" or "unattractive people are better people inside than attractive people" but i don't think it's as black and white simple as that, like all things, it's a Gray area. The money you have isn't going to change your ego, self respect, self entitlement, inner bitterness, or envy. Also, with the people hating you for being happy, I think it's because people think they need to make x amount of money p/year and drive x car and wear X clothes blah blah blah. And until you have those things, it's "impossible to be happy". Or maybe they see someone who has "less" than them, and they think "I'm doing better in life, and they're happy and I'm not! How dare they!" So yeah, you're right about silencing out the haters if you want to be happy, I've only recently stopped caring what people think and my self esteem has gone up by quite a lot.
@@ntrg3248 hey, congrats on that! I hope you will continue to be happy and share happiness with everyone :^D happiness is subjective, so it's not easy to determine what actually is "should" and "shouldn't", like to me people always say that money won't bring you happiness. WRONG! money *WILL* bring me happiness. I can take my mom and dad to get the treatment they need, fix the house, get them to perform hajji, get my siblings better education, get myself a better phone, whale on my favourite characters, those are happiness for *ME* . and I always belittle people who said money can't bring happiness because they usually are people who either, 1) have too much money and don't know what to do with it, 2) envious people who doesn't want others to be successful, 3) people who read too much sappy novel or dramas. my advice to those people, if money can't make you happy, it will make ME happy. give them to me.
@@reishidesu same with being black or white, those are skin colour not race. My original comment isn't about whether "this race, that race", but about anyone can be a bitter, insufferable person.
I know Japan it's a different country but I saw a video of an spanish youtuber who works as a teacher and one of her students told her "wow you're always smiling, you seem so happy all the time" and she said "thank you!" Only later she found out that same student complained about her to her boss because she was being rude to those people who aren't feeling as happy as her like bro wtf 😭
Yeah just like how people back in the day get canceled for being gay, it was just back in the day the majority of people have the luxury of making fun of people who are disadvantage, and now they can't without people fighting back, it's a tragically. Also back in the day if you make fun of the Catholic Church or God forbid be a back men who flirt with a white women you get canceled
@@literalgarbage8014 I left you dates, times, events, facts, evidence, proof, and it was a mile long. The censoring SAVED you from me. So please tell ME, how is this video NOT TRUE? Like I did which took me A VERY LONG TIME FOR TH-cam TO AGAIN CENSOR US. (THANK GOSH FOR ELON FINALLY THE TRUTH CAN COME OUT.) so you can like me give all of that and we can talk about how it's UNTRUE TO YOU? GO I'M ALL EARS?
@@jerseyf8985 i'm not really sure it I caught the point of your comment, but I'll try to answer regardless. Firstly, TH-cam probably censored it because TH-camrs can turn off links in their comment sections, secondly, I wouldn't call stereotypes accurate, I do find these videos entertaining, but they're certainly not accurate. Did he catch stereotypes? Yes, he did, but that doesn't necessarily describe normal behaviour, even in weird places such as twitter, granted, people do follow the stereotypes at times, but that doesn't make them accurate
@@literalgarbage8014 I also think it HIGHLY depends on your area when it comes to certain things. Then it's unfair to censor the truth to make it look another way to certain people. It's not just on his channel. He may have something on or not but this is ALL CHANNELS. EVEN VIDEOS like Thomas Sowell or larry elder exposing the truth but you can't at all in the comments say, "YEAH I SEEN PAMELA A-BROWN ATTAC*ED BY 4 BLACK WOMEN AT KROGERS AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET HER JUSTICE." (True story AND WE KNOW the people on youtube and the video it's under IS STILL HAVING IT ALL SILENCED AND WE KNOW 100% THEIR SETTINGS ISN'T CHANGED TO CENSOR THAT. So his might be or not. It's just when it comes to WHITES and their sufferings. It's HIGHLY censored. That makes me REALLY want to help them more. It's certain words, things, etc. I gave plenty of examples, pages, events, times, etc. BEFORE it again wouldn't sent. Then I wrote TH-cam on their public page and told them THIS NEEDS TO STOP. Whites have sufferings and voices also. ETC. (Just giving you some examples of what I mean.) So you can see it all and go see for yourself. When I hit send it's the SAME message that ONLY happens if you add certain words EXAMPLE: THOMAS SOWELL OR LARRY ELDER is censored. Or a CERTAIN event or word. (YET you can bully, threaten, cuss, smoke w**d, and more on youtube and talk about it in the comments using Ni**A the whole time. NOT SILENCED.) It's sad really. THEN sometimes I will go back & put EXAMPLE: TH*MAS S**ELL as an example then BAM ALL IT OF IT GOES THROUGH. The censoring NEEDS to stop. It's really not helping USA or the world and it's 100% making it seem only 2 races but mainly ours come off like it's ONLY a 13.5% victim thing. So again it also depends on the areas. Like my are for example whites ARE the minority big time. Whites are bru*ally attac*ed non stop. Big time. In school, out, at Krogers, etc. NOTHING IS SAFE FOR THEM in my city and especially our area. YET if you TRY and tell someone, no one cares. NOT the media, police, city officials, pages, and everyone is censoring that. It makes me extra sad for them. If you try to type it up to get channels to react. It's silenced. My area makes EXTREMELY sure to hurt big time whites and even give EVERYTHING to their own and deny disabled whites crying to their face begging for help, while losing it all.... THEN NOT EVER give them justice, silence the truth, MASSIVE cover ups, etc. OR like when I hear ESPECIALLY white liberals saying, "DEFUND THE POLICE 4 BLACK LIVES TO LIVE." We're like, "YOU DON'T LIVE HERE. WE DO! THE LAST THING WE NEED, WANT, ETC IS LESS COPS. WE'RE ALREADY A HUGE TAR*ET FROM OUR OWN PEOPLE. Do white liberals who do not live in our areas REALLY think we're safer WITHOUT help from cops, NO... MY ADVICE COME TO OUR HOOD OR GHETTO AS SOME CALL IT. THEN they can see first hand why we NEED AND WANT the police here." I mean that's 100% even more going to get us ki**ed. So I ALWAYS TRY when I hear people write, say, or voice things a certain way. To remember it ALL STILL DEPENDS on the areas, people, also race (especially sadly whites), etc. So each area it different. It makes me sad whites don't get anything but open ha*e then black women doing that worldwide ha*e can 100% keep their jobs after calling them cockroaches, etc and no one cares or black men openly showing and doing SEVERE things in m*b groups but NO ONE CARES if they're white. It's really sad. I think that's why A LOT of us in a certain area in my hood is trying hard to get them justice and also expose what is going on. Except this censoring ON ALL TH-cam VIDEOS, TIKTOK, FB, (WAS ESPECIALLY TWITTER), MEDIA, ETC Is by far making this harder. It breaks my heart for them. ETC. YET if someone attac*ed my race it's FRONT MEDIA WORLDWIDE, HUGE MIXED LIES IN IT, FALSELY BLAMING WHITES AGAIN, and they leave out the MAJOR parts of everything. Along with the REAL TRUTH. THEN like the church situation that whites were just blamed for bur*ing down 7 churches. That's ANOTHER example of what I mean. AGAIN only their race was blamed and AGAIN it's our race on the mugshot. NO ONE SAYS SORRY, CLEARS IT UP, RUNS THE TRUTH, WAITS, ETC. It REALLY breaks my heart. We're TRYING to get them a voice. So he could have a setting BUT this is on EVERY video. If I changed even ONE A to an * then the message goes through. YET everything disgusting is on youtube BUT the truth. I can't stand that. Hopefully more people follow ELON MUSK way. Hopefully more people follow my family, friends, some of the hood, etc ways and TRY to get them help. I do think people NEED to remember just because THEIR area is safer or a certain way. Doesn't mean others area. That's the same with canceling and other things. My area is QUICK to fire whites. Quick to deny assistance only to them. QUICK to do these things. We ALL know this. We see this daily. It just takes people with a voice, heart, morals, etc. To stand up for others.
@@literalgarbage8014 Oh and you don't have to read my message. I know it's long but I love to leave them still JUST IN CASE someone else has a heart like mine, reads it, and says, "you're right, how can we help." :-) Never know. So worth a try still.
It's depressing how those sketches and reality are so alike. By the way, a little detail that might not change much, but I personally appreciated, is that lately he has changed the "White" vs "Korean/Asian" to America vs Korea. The indigenous Europeans are white too, but we have many countries in the continent with different Ethnicities and with different cultures and social rules each. So, even thought it's comedy, it would be inaccurate to carry the label for the American mentality. We work things very differently and many things good or bad that may be the norm there, don't apply here. We have our own ways to mess up each 🙃
Oh god I'm a Korean and I can relate to this cancel culture so badly. I think herd mentality is pretty strong here. People don't dare disagree with popular opinions on the internet so they aren't attacked by hateful comments. I wasn't sure if anybody felt the same. just a rant but I also see that hate toward Chinese people is disgustingly normalized. For some reason that's not seen as racism. Like if there is a news about massive flood in China where people died most people are cheering in the comments that it's "justice being served" or "mother nature removing her cancer cells" it's just insane
I'm Korean American (adopted in a white family born in Korea). It's pretty true that any racist gesture or name towards Asians just goes by like nothing happened. I recall in school everyone would pull their eyes back and call themselves Asian or do their impression of Asians saying "Hey I can speak Chinese Ching Chang Chong" and no one would say anything. I also recall a kid who was black said his cousin asked for a brown marker and the kid told her "just rub your skin on it" and no one was accepting of that. Had a Chinese friend who was six at the time walked past 2 men at my grandparents restaurant in Ohio and one of the said "ruff" to him - didn't know it at the time but now realizing they're suggesting all Chinese or Asians eat dogs. Not true.
I agree, I absolutely hate how racist Koreans are. :( I’d say I am pretty patriotic myself for Korea(since I am Korean), but I cannot dismiss Korea’s racist behavior. It’s not just China or Japan, Korea is racist too, but also people with darker skin. I’m pretty sure Korean people do not like Chinese or Japanese people because of feuds in the past or with the countries’ governments. But that means Koreans should instead dislike the government instead of the innocent Chinese and Japanese people. Plus the Korean government isn’t perfect either and is very flawed, especially the justice system.
Yeah, being Asian (I'm Japanese) and hearing about "the growing racism problem in America" just makes me laugh. Asian Racism makes Western _"Racism"_ look like child's play. Plus, racism in the USA is an extreme social taboo in most places and exceedingly rare. It's dying, no matter how desperately the media tries to revive it. You go to Asia and NO ONE is color blind and they won't walk on egg shells over it. Even I can pretty accurately tell when someone is not Japanese off appearance alone, although I can't always pinpoint what specific Asian ethnicity they are.
@@3suesisters This is an important point. Always make criticisms about the leadership of a country (and it's hardcore supporters I suppose) not the common people. Most people in any country just want to live their life.
You’re a good person. I’m Chinese a\canadian.. and was in Korea during the massive beef japan vs Korea Uniqlo boycott, fiasco.. and this ajuma grabbed my arm and demanded to know if I was japanese.. it was the most agressive thing I’ve experience.. I said I’m a student but I cussed her I. English. Sorry.. I don’t respect just because ur a senior.. u earn respect..( can blame that on my western values)..but I saw a lot of racism to my Japanese classmates who were there cause they loved Korea.. and even as a Chinese…there was always a bit of disappointment whe the person found out I’m not Korean …I saw a lot of racist iconography which I can laugh at.. but it’s sad the older generations push this stuff on young gen. Just embrace each other..japan and Chinese love Korea.. they fuel the tourism economy.. y hate? Vice versatile to japan and china and america etc.. let the last go.. jfc.. none of us where alive.. not even most of our parents.. stop generational burden.
Can anyone explain how it turned out to be false? I really like to believe but I remember how one article said that even another female idol spoke out against her that she said really mean stuff about her appearance I think they new each other from high school or something like that But as too often the news outlets don’t put in as much effort in sharing the truth afterwards once the damage is done so I’d rlly like to knw
@@user-hq3fd2th7b i think you are mixing the story with seo ShinAe and g-idle's soojin. In Garam's case, it was only that person from her school who accused her
the Korean one hits hard. i can’t stop thinking abt soojin and garam, and ESPECIALLY woojin. all of their life’s were ruined by false accusations, I just can’t stop feeling terrible for them.
People really showed their true colors with WOOJIN. Ever since then, I started to think how many idols people actually hate and find ugly but just won’t say anything until they’re accused of something terrible. I’ll admit, I jumped on the bandwagon of sending hate towards WOOJIN. My friend and I was attacking my other friend when it happened for not believing that it was true. Now I believe to never take sides, even though you’ll be accused of supporting an abuser even though you said you won’t support either side lol
@@fernandofor98 What you said isso true. The person whom you tagged literally showed their "true colors" - their own words. It always baffles me how vindictive such people are.
I've become afraid of trying to befriend Americans after dealing with this (unless they're clearly not the type to participate in it). I had no idea Korea had their own version. Hopefully cancel culture itself gets cancelled one day. Fantastic skit!
The Kim Garam situation will always make me mad. And what happened with Jimin too. It always annoys me how ppl act as if they're god who deserves to hand out punishments and as if they aren't flawed. And the worst part is when it's accusations without solid evidence
Love this! This was a great commentary on just how messed up social norms and acceptance of others are now! And not in just one culture! It’s worldwide! Serious subject and done so well!
And this very much explains why I hate the internet sometimes. As an elder millennial, I remember the days before social media and I'm so glad I wasn't born into it lol.
Hello.. I would like to say I only discovered your channel yesterday and now I am so obsessed with it and I told my friends and we are all following you now I love the Korean mother figure. She makes me laugh until my stomach hurts.. I wish you progress always
when i started watching kpop, i thought i will love korea , but instead i hated it , and it is all because of the bullying cases and the false accusations of these poor idols who even did not start their careers, what is happening in korea is disgusting and need to be stopped at any price ,,, no more ruining people lives because of a bullying case 15 years ago, this is insane and stupid !
You totally miss the point. You don't have the right to be the moral police 🙄 nobody really is a "good role model" at the standard strangers set on you.
but like taehyung is visual in everyones mind including bighit, so jin doesnt matter. v on the other hand is insanely monitored and pretty quiet. look at tzuyu, irene, mark tuan (jackson wang talks a lot cause he was never visual) cha eunwoo, sullyoon, haerin/danielle, yoona, jaehyun nct, felix stray kids, like ALLL told to stay quiet cause main stan attractors (which is what visual really means..the main money and fan bringer of the group)
okay so how i understand it- america: random private individuals will be canceled for things taken out of context, or will be cancelled for doing something admittedly bad- but it was done when they were young or when it was a societal norm. korea: korean idols are expected to be genuinely perfect and will be cancelled for there even being suspicion of humanity or flaw
Liking Tate is a red flag though, all the videos I saw of him, he said questionable things...like liking Romania because of their lower chances for rape accusations for example.
however i still feel like someone truly was a bully in the past and they're a better person now, it can be forgived but that opportunity should be given to someone who may have not had such a past. bullying is a more serious issue than just showing support for a famous person before they get cancelled. but i do agree with the false accusations part, in both america and korea, people are always so quick to jump to conclusions and start taking whatever side everyone else is taking.
The Korean one- Omg garam that's garam they ended her life when she's just a teen? Even if those accusations were true they behaved as if there isn't time she grows as a human?
I think the main difference in America is that cancel culture doesn’t actually exist. If you take the time to follow up with people who are “cancelled” you’ll notice they’ve regained all their, followers, movie deals , job etc. It’s usually just a short term issue. Either way not sure why we have to be a hive mind and have a good reason not to i like a celeb. Idek who Andrew Tate is but if someone said they don’t like his humor or think they can date anyone who likes him I don’t see the big deal😅
It does exist and rots society. Ruins friendship because people will be pressured to break things off and turn against those accused. Sure, people already on the top will regain their influence because they already have that and the money. But small people that get cancelled lose their jobs and fall into financial disarray, have their careers closed for them. It's always the poorer man that gets the shortest end of the stick. People are afraid to say literally anything now if they're trying to share their art or sth, everything needs to be extremely carefully crafted for the crowd, there's so much babying going on. I'd never been cancelled but I sure had stopped honestly expressing myself and feeling unable to open up to ppl online now. I don't even post art much, I just do it for myself. It just feels like relieving the threat of bullying, cause in most cases, that's what "cancelling" is - just bullying.
Andrew Tate has been accused and I believe actually charged with human trafficking in Romania. His website has him describing in detail how he would make women fall in love with him, date him, and then coerce them to do sex work. He is well known for misogynistic attitudes in his podcasts, such as saying that women can be blamed for their own rape. He described himself as a high value male and believes women should be traditional and serve him in a relationship. His viewers include young boys and men of various ages. His younger viewers are easily influenced by his sexism and teachers have expressed concern about their students's behaviors as they discuss what they learned from Tate. Unfortunately, cancel culture hasn't been enough to hold him accountable because there's just as many people supporting him :(
It does exist, cancel culture doesn't just happen to big names. Celebrities and rich people are likely fine, and their livelihoods aren't threatened. But it's bad when it targets regular people who just live ordinary lives. I've seen it happen in fandoms over stupid opinions and there are incidents of others doxxing, trying to contact their boss, cheering over attempted suicide or murder attempts.
Cancel culture absolutely exists in America. It's supporters falsely claim that because some of its victims manage to find some modicum of success again that they suffered no harm. I don't know any of its victims that are as successful as they were before they were cancelled
It's like shuhua from g-idle. She's not individually big enough to get in a lot of trouble, but occasionally I do see people getting pissed because she's so unfiltered and strong about her opinions
She definitely speaks her mind and breaks the silent visual stereotype and that’s a good thing. It’s nice to see idols stand up for what they believe in.
Sad how accurate it is, especially in Korea. A good example would be Soojin getting kicked out of G-Idle because a hater accused her of being a middle school bully. #JusticeForSoojin
"Even if your attitude is misunderstood as rude, you'll be cancel." Flashback to Momoland getting massive hate for apparently being "rude", the poor girls were just starting to have some success and it all went downhill.
Muslim society does not have this cancel culture, if someone want to be a better person, we always appreciate that. And Allah is the most merciful and beneficent
cancel culture claims to be able to put a line in the sand of morality like we're mythological hero-gods forgetting morality is always gray, for all of us, no matter how holy, self-righteous or good you think you are. Cancel culture works like an algorithm and we can't reduce humanity to an algorithm. What makes us imperfect is what makes us humans.
this reminded me of garam from le sserafim and at the time she was getting canceled, I was neutral because I wanted to see both sides but obviously the internet only shows the bad side of people. without seeing both sides, it was hard to choose a side to believe. but later on she got kicked out from the group and her contact had been terminated and now that everything is cleared up, she’s still not back in the group. :’)
You clearly miss the point. It doesn't matter whether she was guilty or not. She was a child when it was alleged to occur. Furthermore, It was one incident in middle school and had absolutely nothing to do with her ability to sing & dance. As it turns out, it wasn't even true so I hope the "netizens" who pressured the record company to take action and those that were on the fence feel some shame in their part in ruining a young woman's life
@@dissonantvibe8585 you clearly missed my point. I said I was neutral, did you not see that part? it does matter because if she was a real bully, then she doesn’t deserve the spotlight. bullies don’t deserve fame and wealth and the love from fans, and this applies to anyone, not just garam. obviously she is not guilty, so she shouldn’t have been kicked out but the past is the past, there’s nothing more that can be done to change it.
@@charenny7797 , I understood your point and I still maintain the point of the video went over your head like a plane 30k feet in the sky. You were neutral on whether you should or should not join in on the digital lynching of a 16 year old girl? You were neutral on whether it was right for others to do so? The philosophy this video criticizes is a philosophy of bullies. They pat themselves on the back that their cause is noble while engaging in some of the most despicable behavior. I believe in separation of the art & artist so I still maintain that it doesn't matter whether she did or did not as it is irrelevant to her talents. Many of the great artists & musicians & writers did some terrible things, but the world would be worse off without their works. I don't pretend that Kim Garam is on the level of a Classical master, but the point still stands. If that's not your line, fine. Don't support her & don't listen to Le Serrafim. However, you don't get to decide for the rest of us. That's what this digital lynch mob did. It decided for the rest of us by pressuring her cowardly agency. Moreover, social dynamics are complex and there is no way a journalist covering pop music is going to take the time to understand or report all the complexities that occurred so how are you going to decide "guilt"? You don't believe that bullies should be able to be part of polite society. That's a pretty harsh punishment for a childhood transgression. How long should the be exiled? 5 years? 20 years? For life? I have personal experience with bullying so I fully understand it's impact, but I don't believe this should be affecting their professional ambitions
@@dissonantvibe8585 don’t tell me you understood my point and that your point “flew over my head” when you didn’t. you are acting like being neutral is a bad thing. would you rather have one more person to attack someone for the not proven bullying allegations? and you act like I had any power to stop others from pressuring her company. if you wanna talk like that, you should take your own advice first before giving that shit advice to others. the artist may create good art but you can’t support it. it’s separated, but if you still continue to listen and support it, you are still giving power and fame to that person. do you not understand what? and just how am I deciding for the rest of you? was me saying that I stayed neutral deciding for you? I love how you’re always shoving words into my mouth that I’ve never said, well done. and her bullying allegations was not that long go. I believe people can and do change but at the time that it was said she was bullying people, it was not that long ago considering she’s only 16. they may not have believed she could change so fast. why do you feel the need to personally attack me as if I were one of the people that pressured the company to terminate her contract? do you find joy in attacking random strangers for saying that they were neutral? if so, you are no better than those people who ruined her life.
@@charenny7797 , some of my argument was directed at the general philosophy of cancel culture and not you as I don't know what actions you have or have not taken. I did this because I wanted to communicate that neutrality is not harmless. Let me try to explain it in another way with more extreme examples. If you heard that someone was tripping random old ladies, you would probably not be neutral. An even more extreme example closer to this issue, would you be neutral if you heard that they were summarily executing someone who said something mean in the school hallways? I'd like to believe you'd be rightfully appalled. I am heartened to hear that you believe there is a possible statue of limitations for individuals who have made mistakes. Unfortunately, Korean culture doesn't seem to agree as another example of a Korean celebrity who lost his career due to childhood bullying is Ji Soo. He apparently did bully, but the allegations had to have be at least 10 years ago. That's just crazy to me. Can you imagine if a CPA was fired because they were mean in school 10 years ago? Unfortunately, it's not just Koreans as American cancel culture, celebrities have been asked to answer for events 40 or 50 years ago. I've even seen examples of attempts to cancel male celebrities for the awful, unforgivable crime of being a bad boyfriend. There are many people who seek to justify cancel culture. I wonder many of those people shop at Amazon or Walmart. How many of them work for military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industry, mainstream media, etc, etc? These companies and industries have done and are doing worse things than even the most evil human could. Still people happily shop or work at them, but will call for a person to lose their livelihood if the say or do something wrong no matter how minor or how long ago it was. I am sorry you felt like I was attacking you, but cancel culture has been extremely destructive to American culture and the arts over the last 10 years. It disgusts me. Thus, I would hope that even if I can't convince you, others will be convinced or at the very least will not believe that your neutrality opinion is shared by everyone
I wanna ask one thing to all the people that always try to cancel celebrities for something they did in the past ( is another story if they continue -and don’t apologize) Aren’t they human like us? Can’t they make mistake too? I’m so sure each and every one of us when we were younger and ignorant We too committed a lot of mistakes, so why try to ruin someone’s lives and career for something they did in the past.
@@otaku-chan4888 i don’t know much about that girl’s situation and i never paid much attention to it in the first place so i wont comment on it; im just talking about the part he tries to say a bully can change when a lot of these bullying situations are severe so them ~changing~ doesn’t erase the trauma their victims must live with
@@WhatYouThought_ _nothing_ can erase the victim's hurt. You're right that a person changing doesn't rewrite the past, but neither does them losing their career. What has been done can't be undone. I personally don't think it's right for someone to be stripped of their livelihoods and everything they've worked for because they were mean as a teenager.
@@WhitePaintbrush again you’re trying to relate this to that girl but again i never paid attention so this has nothing to do with her. But, if someone bullied someone to the point where they needs counseling yea they should face consequences and i don’t care if those consequences affect them even in adulthood. bullying is more than someone being called “loser” by a classmate; people start getting physical and mentally mess someone up to the point that ruins their lives even to the point it carries on to their adult lives. so yea if someone is found out to have been a bully to that extent they should lose their job or whatever consequences they face bc even as a teen there’s a line you should know not to cross.
@@WhatYouThought_ I made no mention of Garam nor referenced anything specific about her case. This is my general sentiment on the topic. I don't like when "consequences," are in the hands of the court of public opinion, really ever.
This is so true! I know some koreans who think how ridiculous it is. Yet people act like this. Yeah! Some koreans have an issue with successful people. I cant imagine living around such people but this is a reality.
In South Korea, there are two types of people. 1. Proud citizens of the Republic of Korea who are doing their best in capitalist society and free market economy. 2. People with Joseon dynasty / North Korean mindset who should've born in North Korea.
"lot of koreans can't stand other people's success" true words
Same with Indians
Idc abt yall but to me it is specially koreans that are so fckin petty and jealous
@highestintheroom5510 most people everywhere in the world are the same i said "koreans" specifically coz that's what is mentioned in the video
@@isabellaswan9579 tell the person who made this video coz i happened to commented the line from the video and through personal experience
Do you think it's different in Poland?
Do you know how a Pole prays? Lord God, I have one cow, my neighbor has a hundred cows. Make his ninety die!
US : don't offend us or we'll label you and get you cancelled
Le Korea - DON'T YOU DARE OPEN YOUR MOUTH
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The US clip is the definition of ex post facto
LE KOREA 💀
true words my friends
US: get cancelled cause people lack brain cells
korea: get cancelled cause people want to drag down people above them
Basically the US cancel culture is about a decade behind Korea
This was more important than learning for my biology exam tomorrow 😂
I have been waiting so long for this :
th-cam.com/video/mCfYi7634rU/w-d-xo.html
Takes me back to the days when I did everything to avoid studying 😂, srsly tho STUDY.
go study! you'll be the one giving that exam after all, imposter-ssi.
I have a bio test tomorrow too lol yeah this is definitely more important
U can watch this afte r the exam
Cancel culture has never made sense to me as a Kenyan. I don't even know where it came from.
"But we're human. Like everyone has flaws so instead of hiding it why can't we just embrace it." I wonder too.
"The world's a messed up place." It truly is.😔😕
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I'm a Gen X Canadian and it doesn't make sense to me as well. It is a phenomenon that has arrived in the latest years. While I understand the principle and it was, at first, coming from a good idea, it has now become something super toxic and doesn't even allow people to have their own opinion and express them.
It started with a good purpose, to make companies and famous people responsable of their actions. But right now it's out of control. I still think that it can be good sometimes. If a company do evil things and they are not punished by law, it's just fair that customers boicot that company, but it should never be about other people private lifes
@@adriam718 , so started out good but then became twisted and bad itself? Hmm okay. As they say, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
@@cassiopee26 , as a Gen Z I don't know where and how it started and I get my generation are trying to be thoughtful but nowadays it's like.... Too much. People are becoming wimpy over words and deeds even if someone is being polite and saying the truth and that's coming from a Highly Sensitive Person. LOL😆
k-pop be like: "She is over 100 pounds! SHE IS SO FAT!" Also k-pop: "This idol called someone mean in fourth grade."
The hypocrisy is insane 💀
You mean KPop Stan?
Cancelling started as wanting to hold people accountable for their actions, nothing wrong with that if it was about corporate greed or illegal deportations but now it really is just an excuse to dump on individuals for nitpicky issues.
exactly
Yeah
True
absolutely
No. Accountability was a thing before "cancelling." Cancelling, by the time that term was actually used for it, was *always* going too far. I'm old enough and I was active online enough at the time to know.
While a few people used the term to apply to justifiable attempts at accountability, it was never a thing until it was being abused in the "overly sensitive" way (innocent or at least not that bad things seen as horrible) or the "fascistic" way (as previous but more malicious, often for political reasons) or the "too far" way (accountability was actually needed but the mob pushed for far more than was ethical to push for), usually all three.
(... But I'm guessing from your comment that you _like_ and would defend the fascistic way. "Illegal deportations" my eye.)
*I think this videos should be attached to historical textbooks*
How would that work?
@@tommyadkins844 As including the video's name in the textbook.
@@shulershifty6240 ah okay
Or a qr quode
I agree
I'm still so freaking mad about Soojin leaving the group. And poor Garam. Seriously, it's ridiculous how people's careers and lives are over because of false accusations. I would just sue the shit out of the accusers for every last penny they have for defamation of character or whatever
They weren't false accusations though
@@batataloubya6555 I'm not sure about Garam, but in Soojin's case it was depicted as false accusations. I don't put my hand on the fire for any idol, but the justice (Justice? Y'know, the legal system and attorneys and all lolol) said they were false, so that's what should counts as we weren't really there to see. And it really sucks that false accusations led you to stop being loved by the media
@@barbiemary67 i don't follow gidle closely but i did follow the bullying case and if i remember correctly, soojin stated that if the allegations were true she'd leave the group, which she did. Not sure if there was an update proving none of it was true after the events and the court report🤷 they dealt with the situation horribly and ended up shooting themselves in the foot unfortunately.
the worst people are the ones hating on them and bullying them back.
The moment a famous person does something wrong, everyone acts like they themselves are so innocent and have never made mistakes when they were younger.
@@batataloubya6555 yes they were
Saying "you're cancelled" like its "you're it." 🤣🤣🤣✋🏼
No, you’re it 😂😂😂
@@chrism9294 are you assuming im it? Cancelled✋🏼. Bahahaha🤣🤣🤣
@@yara22yara actually no I wasn’t assuming you were it, I was simply responding as an example of how the game goes on forever because of all of the back and forth between the players saying, “You’re it, no you’re it.” I don’t care if I’m cancelled so 🤷🏽♀️.
@@chrism9294 bestie... You know i was joking, right? That was exactly what i meant. Its the irony. I hope you know i was only taking the piss💜
tag you're it
The bits about Korean hating on others success is actually true, even though it's probably normal no matter what race you are. But here even by being happy people would start assuming so much, even going as far as calling you "inconsiderate to those who are unhappy". So my advice, if you want to be happy, either you do it in private or deaf yourself and ignore them.
I agree with you about that, hating on success is plain envy. Being envious is an unhealthy lifestyle, and it really says more about the people envying than who they are envious of. It's just unnecessary hate and jealousy. My mum always says stuff like "poor people are better people inside than rich people" or "unattractive people are better people inside than attractive people" but i don't think it's as black and white simple as that, like all things, it's a Gray area. The money you have isn't going to change your ego, self respect, self entitlement, inner bitterness, or envy.
Also, with the people hating you for being happy, I think it's because people think they need to make x amount of money p/year and drive x car and wear X clothes blah blah blah. And until you have those things, it's "impossible to be happy". Or maybe they see someone who has "less" than them, and they think "I'm doing better in life, and they're happy and I'm not! How dare they!" So yeah, you're right about silencing out the haters if you want to be happy, I've only recently stopped caring what people think and my self esteem has gone up by quite a lot.
@@ntrg3248 hey, congrats on that! I hope you will continue to be happy and share happiness with everyone :^D
happiness is subjective, so it's not easy to determine what actually is "should" and "shouldn't", like to me people always say that money won't bring you happiness. WRONG! money *WILL* bring me happiness. I can take my mom and dad to get the treatment they need, fix the house, get them to perform hajji, get my siblings better education, get myself a better phone, whale on my favourite characters, those are happiness for *ME* . and I always belittle people who said money can't bring happiness because they usually are people who either, 1) have too much money and don't know what to do with it, 2) envious people who doesn't want others to be successful, 3) people who read too much sappy novel or dramas.
my advice to those people, if money can't make you happy, it will make ME happy. give them to me.
@@reishidesu just because race was mentioned does not mean anyone is implying Korean is a race.
@@reishidesu same with being black or white, those are skin colour not race. My original comment isn't about whether "this race, that race", but about anyone can be a bitter, insufferable person.
I know Japan it's a different country but I saw a video of an spanish youtuber who works as a teacher and one of her students told her "wow you're always smiling, you seem so happy all the time" and she said "thank you!" Only later she found out that same student complained about her to her boss because she was being rude to those people who aren't feeling as happy as her like bro wtf 😭
This is hilarious. Being able to poke fun at society is the best kind if comedy, it's too bad our society has taken a giant leap backwards
Yeah just like how people back in the day get canceled for being gay, it was just back in the day the majority of people have the luxury of making fun of people who are disadvantage, and now they can't without people fighting back, it's a tragically. Also back in the day if you make fun of the Catholic Church or God forbid be a back men who flirt with a white women you get canceled
Nah it’s always been like this
@@mochi2049 "Elaborate"
😂 Oprah: “You get cancelled. You get cancelled. Everybody gets cancelled!!!!”
😂
hhahaha
This KOREA AND AMERICA STUFF IS AMAZING.
If you say so
@@literalgarbage8014 I left you dates, times, events, facts, evidence, proof, and it was a mile long. The censoring SAVED you from me. So please tell ME, how is this video NOT TRUE? Like I did which took me A VERY LONG TIME FOR TH-cam TO AGAIN CENSOR US. (THANK GOSH FOR ELON FINALLY THE TRUTH CAN COME OUT.) so you can like me give all of that and we can talk about how it's UNTRUE TO YOU? GO I'M ALL EARS?
@@jerseyf8985 i'm not really sure it I caught the point of your comment, but I'll try to answer regardless. Firstly, TH-cam probably censored it because TH-camrs can turn off links in their comment sections, secondly, I wouldn't call stereotypes accurate, I do find these videos entertaining, but they're certainly not accurate. Did he catch stereotypes? Yes, he did, but that doesn't necessarily describe normal behaviour, even in weird places such as twitter, granted, people do follow the stereotypes at times, but that doesn't make them accurate
@@literalgarbage8014 I also think it HIGHLY depends on your area when it comes to certain things. Then it's unfair to censor the truth to make it look another way to certain people. It's not just on his channel. He may have something on or not but this is ALL CHANNELS. EVEN VIDEOS like Thomas Sowell or larry elder exposing the truth but you can't at all in the comments say, "YEAH I SEEN PAMELA A-BROWN ATTAC*ED BY 4 BLACK WOMEN AT KROGERS AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET HER JUSTICE." (True story AND WE KNOW the people on youtube and the video it's under IS STILL HAVING IT ALL SILENCED AND WE KNOW 100% THEIR SETTINGS ISN'T CHANGED TO CENSOR THAT. So his might be or not. It's just when it comes to WHITES and their sufferings. It's HIGHLY censored. That makes me REALLY want to help them more. It's certain words, things, etc. I gave plenty of examples, pages, events, times, etc. BEFORE it again wouldn't sent. Then I wrote TH-cam on their public page and told them THIS NEEDS TO STOP. Whites have sufferings and voices also. ETC. (Just giving you some examples of what I mean.) So you can see it all and go see for yourself. When I hit send it's the SAME message that ONLY happens if you add certain words EXAMPLE: THOMAS SOWELL OR LARRY ELDER is censored. Or a CERTAIN event or word. (YET you can bully, threaten, cuss, smoke w**d, and more on youtube and talk about it in the comments using Ni**A the whole time. NOT SILENCED.) It's sad really. THEN sometimes I will go back & put EXAMPLE: TH*MAS S**ELL as an example then BAM ALL IT OF IT GOES THROUGH. The censoring NEEDS to stop. It's really not helping USA or the world and it's 100% making it seem only 2 races but mainly ours come off like it's ONLY a 13.5% victim thing. So again it also depends on the areas. Like my are for example whites ARE the minority big time. Whites are bru*ally attac*ed non stop. Big time. In school, out, at Krogers, etc. NOTHING IS SAFE FOR THEM in my city and especially our area. YET if you TRY and tell someone, no one cares. NOT the media, police, city officials, pages, and everyone is censoring that. It makes me extra sad for them. If you try to type it up to get channels to react. It's silenced. My area makes EXTREMELY sure to hurt big time whites and even give EVERYTHING to their own and deny disabled whites crying to their face begging for help, while losing it all.... THEN NOT EVER give them justice, silence the truth, MASSIVE cover ups, etc. OR like when I hear ESPECIALLY white liberals saying, "DEFUND THE POLICE 4 BLACK LIVES TO LIVE." We're like, "YOU DON'T LIVE HERE. WE DO! THE LAST THING WE NEED, WANT, ETC IS LESS COPS. WE'RE ALREADY A HUGE TAR*ET FROM OUR OWN PEOPLE. Do white liberals who do not live in our areas REALLY think we're safer WITHOUT help from cops, NO... MY ADVICE COME TO OUR HOOD OR GHETTO AS SOME CALL IT. THEN they can see first hand why we NEED AND WANT the police here." I mean that's 100% even more going to get us ki**ed. So I ALWAYS TRY when I hear people write, say, or voice things a certain way. To remember it ALL STILL DEPENDS on the areas, people, also race (especially sadly whites), etc. So each area it different. It makes me sad whites don't get anything but open ha*e then black women doing that worldwide ha*e can 100% keep their jobs after calling them cockroaches, etc and no one cares or black men openly showing and doing SEVERE things in m*b groups but NO ONE CARES if they're white. It's really sad. I think that's why A LOT of us in a certain area in my hood is trying hard to get them justice and also expose what is going on. Except this censoring ON ALL TH-cam VIDEOS, TIKTOK, FB, (WAS ESPECIALLY TWITTER), MEDIA, ETC Is by far making this harder. It breaks my heart for them. ETC. YET if someone attac*ed my race it's FRONT MEDIA WORLDWIDE, HUGE MIXED LIES IN IT, FALSELY BLAMING WHITES AGAIN, and they leave out the MAJOR parts of everything. Along with the REAL TRUTH. THEN like the church situation that whites were just blamed for bur*ing down 7 churches. That's ANOTHER example of what I mean. AGAIN only their race was blamed and AGAIN it's our race on the mugshot. NO ONE SAYS SORRY, CLEARS IT UP, RUNS THE TRUTH, WAITS, ETC. It REALLY breaks my heart. We're TRYING to get them a voice. So he could have a setting BUT this is on EVERY video. If I changed even ONE A to an * then the message goes through. YET everything disgusting is on youtube BUT the truth. I can't stand that. Hopefully more people follow ELON MUSK way. Hopefully more people follow my family, friends, some of the hood, etc ways and TRY to get them help. I do think people NEED to remember just because THEIR area is safer or a certain way. Doesn't mean others area. That's the same with canceling and other things. My area is QUICK to fire whites. Quick to deny assistance only to them. QUICK to do these things. We ALL know this. We see this daily. It just takes people with a voice, heart, morals, etc. To stand up for others.
@@literalgarbage8014 Oh and you don't have to read my message. I know it's long but I love to leave them still JUST IN CASE someone else has a heart like mine, reads it, and says, "you're right, how can we help." :-) Never know. So worth a try still.
It's depressing how those sketches and reality are so alike.
By the way, a little detail that might not change much, but I personally appreciated, is that lately he has changed the "White" vs "Korean/Asian" to America vs Korea. The indigenous Europeans are white too, but we have many countries in the continent with different Ethnicities and with different cultures and social rules each. So, even thought it's comedy, it would be inaccurate to carry the label for the American mentality. We work things very differently and many things good or bad that may be the norm there, don't apply here. We have our own ways to mess up each 🙃
Don't break your arm pattin' yourself on the back.🙄
@@DivaViews 💀
I'm a White European and literally didn't give a damn about the White vs Korean bits. I'm hear to have a laugh.
Your canceled
@@B-l-a-z-z-e-R Well same, but I don't see why pointing out it's nice being more specific and accurate is bad.
Thank you for making reference to Garam. What happened to her and many other idols was just cruel. The hate was clearly stemmed from jealousy
Oh god I'm a Korean and I can relate to this cancel culture so badly. I think herd mentality is pretty strong here. People don't dare disagree with popular opinions on the internet so they aren't attacked by hateful comments. I wasn't sure if anybody felt the same. just a rant but I also see that hate toward Chinese people is disgustingly normalized. For some reason that's not seen as racism. Like if there is a news about massive flood in China where people died most people are cheering in the comments that it's "justice being served" or "mother nature removing her cancer cells" it's just insane
I'm Korean American (adopted in a white family born in Korea). It's pretty true that any racist gesture or name towards Asians just goes by like nothing happened. I recall in school everyone would pull their eyes back and call themselves Asian or do their impression of Asians saying "Hey I can speak Chinese Ching Chang Chong" and no one would say anything. I also recall a kid who was black said his cousin asked for a brown marker and the kid told her "just rub your skin on it" and no one was accepting of that. Had a Chinese friend who was six at the time walked past 2 men at my grandparents restaurant in Ohio and one of the said "ruff" to him - didn't know it at the time but now realizing they're suggesting all Chinese or Asians eat dogs. Not true.
I agree, I absolutely hate how racist Koreans are. :(
I’d say I am pretty patriotic myself for Korea(since I am Korean), but I cannot dismiss Korea’s racist behavior.
It’s not just China or Japan, Korea is racist too, but also people with darker skin. I’m pretty sure Korean people do not like Chinese or Japanese people because of feuds in the past or with the countries’ governments. But that means Koreans should instead dislike the government instead of the innocent Chinese and Japanese people. Plus the Korean government isn’t perfect either and is very flawed, especially the justice system.
Yeah, being Asian (I'm Japanese) and hearing about "the growing racism problem in America" just makes me laugh. Asian Racism makes Western _"Racism"_ look like child's play. Plus, racism in the USA is an extreme social taboo in most places and exceedingly rare. It's dying, no matter how desperately the media tries to revive it.
You go to Asia and NO ONE is color blind and they won't walk on egg shells over it. Even I can pretty accurately tell when someone is not Japanese off appearance alone, although I can't always pinpoint what specific Asian ethnicity they are.
@@3suesisters This is an important point. Always make criticisms about the leadership of a country (and it's hardcore supporters I suppose) not the common people. Most people in any country just want to live their life.
You’re a good person. I’m Chinese a\canadian.. and was in Korea during the massive beef japan vs Korea Uniqlo boycott, fiasco.. and this ajuma grabbed my arm and demanded to know if I was japanese.. it was the most agressive thing I’ve experience.. I said I’m a student but I cussed her I. English. Sorry.. I don’t respect just because ur a senior.. u earn respect..( can blame that on my western values)..but I saw a lot of racism to my Japanese classmates who were there cause they loved Korea.. and even as a Chinese…there was always a bit of disappointment whe the person found out I’m not Korean …I saw a lot of racist iconography which I can laugh at.. but it’s sad the older generations push this stuff on young gen.
Just embrace each other..japan and Chinese love Korea.. they fuel the tourism economy.. y hate? Vice versatile to japan and china and america etc.. let the last go.. jfc.. none of us where alive.. not even most of our parents.. stop generational burden.
I hope Kim Garam lives a happy life from now on, full of good things, she didnt deserve any of this
I miss her, She was mistreated! I believed in her! Hope she leads a better and a happy life
I hope so too for Soojin from G-Idle
@@eggsandwich7896 Yes , Let's all hope for everyone who got mistreated
Can anyone explain how it turned out to be false? I really like to believe but I remember how one article said that even another female idol spoke out against her that she said really mean stuff about her appearance I think they new each other from high school or something like that
But as too often the news outlets don’t put in as much effort in sharing the truth afterwards once the damage is done so I’d rlly like to knw
@@user-hq3fd2th7b i think you are mixing the story with seo ShinAe and g-idle's soojin. In Garam's case, it was only that person from her school who accused her
His analytical breakdown of South Korea's social culture was so accurate. This video suddenly became serious.
Legends say that the two girls are still yelling at eo saying "your canceled"
I just can't. You are TOO funny!! 😂😂
Unfortunately, EVERY word that you said concerning both places is true. Sad and pathetic. 😔
"The world is a messed up place"
Agree
I don't stan nor hate Kim Garam but poor her. She deserves better.
I’m sorry but what group is she in
@@kakakeks lesserafim
Is it proven that the accusations were false?
@@sofija642 yes she was proven innocent
@@sofija642 nope it was proven true actually i believe
the Korean one hits hard. i can’t stop thinking abt soojin and garam, and ESPECIALLY woojin. all of their life’s were ruined by false accusations, I just can’t stop feeling terrible for them.
People really showed their true colors with WOOJIN. Ever since then, I started to think how many idols people actually hate and find ugly but just won’t say anything until they’re accused of something terrible.
I’ll admit, I jumped on the bandwagon of sending hate towards WOOJIN. My friend and I was attacking my other friend when it happened for not believing that it was true. Now I believe to never take sides, even though you’ll be accused of supporting an abuser even though you said you won’t support either side lol
@@Elizabeth-vp7ek Imagine sending hate towards an idol that is trying his best to entertain all of you, couldn't be me. Typical Kpop fans
@@fernandofor98 What you said isso true. The person whom you tagged literally showed their "true colors" - their own words. It always baffles me how vindictive such people are.
The woojin case is so bad 😭 I felt bad for him
I've become afraid of trying to befriend Americans after dealing with this (unless they're clearly not the type to participate in it). I had no idea Korea had their own version. Hopefully cancel culture itself gets cancelled one day. Fantastic skit!
If people didn't put celebrities on a pedestal maybe we wouldn't be so surprised when they fall.. they are no less human than the rest of us
at this point a lot of people who have a lot of followers or subscribers or whatever end up being a pedo or murderer
The American one was so accurate I couldn't stop laughing 💀
The last part was just🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣"you want to write a hate comment with me"😂😂😂😂
This type of thing plus the impossible beauty/career/schooling standards is surely what makes the suicide rate so god damned high 😮💨
@@ms-abominable yeah I guess so😣
The Kim Garam situation will always make me mad. And what happened with Jimin too. It always annoys me how ppl act as if they're god who deserves to hand out punishments and as if they aren't flawed. And the worst part is when it's accusations without solid evidence
It's pretty much the same concept in both. Of course Koreans have it tougher, they have been practicing it for centuries 🥴
Jeez
It's easier to hate than not. Negative energy is very contagious. Your vids are real
Love this! This was a great commentary on just how messed up social norms and acceptance of others are now! And not in just one culture! It’s worldwide! Serious subject and done so well!
"So her life hasn't even started but it's ended?!"
How is it so funny and so depressing at the same time??
I think he was talking about Garam or Soojin, both girls/women are so wonderful and im sorry for them.
YAY garam supporter
And this very much explains why I hate the internet sometimes. As an elder millennial, I remember the days before social media and I'm so glad I wasn't born into it lol.
So super true about Korean netizens omg. Hahaha the ending!!!
Every word is true... and still hilarious. Love, that this is satire at its best! 😁
Can you imagine being his neighbor? All you’d hear is “YOU’RE cancelled!” “YOU’RE CANCELLED!”
THIS is one of the most important sketches that you have ever done! Truth👍
Hello.. I would like to say I only discovered your channel yesterday and now I am so obsessed with it and I told my friends and we are all following you now I love the Korean mother figure. She makes me laugh until my stomach hurts.. I wish you progress always
Cancel culture is twisted everywhere. Let's cancel cancel culture.
This is so accurate its scary and sad.
I instantly thought of Garam, poor girl 💔 still rooting for her
Ooof garam vibes are strong here
I like how he said "your canceled" instead of "You're canceled ". 🤣
when i started watching kpop, i thought i will love korea , but instead i hated it , and it is all because of the bullying cases and the false accusations of these poor idols who even did not start their careers, what is happening in korea is disgusting and need to be stopped at any price ,,, no more ruining people lives because of a bullying case 15 years ago, this is insane and stupid !
I feel so bad for garam. That 16 year old got canceled for fake accusation :((
love the video and hate how it’s so true
Moral of the story:
It’s not about trying to be less racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
It’s about being a good role model.
You totally miss the point. You don't have the right to be the moral police 🙄 nobody really is a "good role model" at the standard strangers set on you.
2:30 This is also where depression may stem. People's action, big or small, the impact is really heavy psychologically.
Meanwhile Jin is visual of the group and that mouth has no seal and words come like tsunami 💀
Lol but when they debuted, he was given a role like cold person to play
but like taehyung is visual in everyones mind including bighit, so jin doesnt matter. v on the other hand is insanely monitored and pretty quiet. look at tzuyu, irene, mark tuan (jackson wang talks a lot cause he was never visual) cha eunwoo, sullyoon, haerin/danielle, yoona, jaehyun nct, felix stray kids, like ALLL told to stay quiet cause main stan attractors (which is what visual really means..the main money and fan bringer of the group)
Hey guys chillout,
It's just a joke.. right?
Nothing more serious and don't need to argue about a lighter heart joke
I love your amazing vids KC
Pfft-
This is so true.
okay so how i understand it-
america: random private individuals will be canceled for things taken out of context, or will be cancelled for doing something admittedly bad- but it was done when they were young or when it was a societal norm.
korea: korean idols are expected to be genuinely perfect and will be cancelled for there even being suspicion of humanity or flaw
Liking Tate is a red flag though, all the videos I saw of him, he said questionable things...like liking Romania because of their lower chances for rape accusations for example.
On point, as always
however i still feel like someone truly was a bully in the past and they're a better person now, it can be forgived but that opportunity should be given to someone who may have not had such a past. bullying is a more serious issue than just showing support for a famous person before they get cancelled. but i do agree with the false accusations part, in both america and korea, people are always so quick to jump to conclusions and start taking whatever side everyone else is taking.
The "u wanna write a hate comment with me???"....I can't 😭😭😭😭
This is funny….but also tragically sad, because it’s true 😢
I was not able to stop laughing🤣🤣
The Korean one-
Omg garam that's garam they ended her life when she's just a teen? Even if those accusations were true they behaved as if there isn't time she grows as a human?
Oh my gosh!! I’m canceled
This is one of your best videos.
*Criticizes Korean for hiding his feelings*
*CRITICAL HIT*
*Korean.exe stopped working*
I think the main difference in America is that cancel culture doesn’t actually exist. If you take the time to follow up with people who are “cancelled” you’ll notice they’ve regained all their, followers, movie deals , job etc. It’s usually just a short term issue. Either way not sure why we have to be a hive mind and have a good reason not to i like a celeb. Idek who Andrew Tate is but if someone said they don’t like his humor or think they can date anyone who likes him I don’t see the big deal😅
It does exist and rots society. Ruins friendship because people will be pressured to break things off and turn against those accused. Sure, people already on the top will regain their influence because they already have that and the money. But small people that get cancelled lose their jobs and fall into financial disarray, have their careers closed for them. It's always the poorer man that gets the shortest end of the stick. People are afraid to say literally anything now if they're trying to share their art or sth, everything needs to be extremely carefully crafted for the crowd, there's so much babying going on. I'd never been cancelled but I sure had stopped honestly expressing myself and feeling unable to open up to ppl online now. I don't even post art much, I just do it for myself. It just feels like relieving the threat of bullying, cause in most cases, that's what "cancelling" is - just bullying.
Andrew Tate has been accused and I believe actually charged with human trafficking in Romania. His website has him describing in detail how he would make women fall in love with him, date him, and then coerce them to do sex work. He is well known for misogynistic attitudes in his podcasts, such as saying that women can be blamed for their own rape. He described himself as a high value male and believes women should be traditional and serve him in a relationship. His viewers include young boys and men of various ages. His younger viewers are easily influenced by his sexism and teachers have expressed concern about their students's behaviors as they discuss what they learned from Tate. Unfortunately, cancel culture hasn't been enough to hold him accountable because there's just as many people supporting him :(
It does exist, cancel culture doesn't just happen to big names. Celebrities and rich people are likely fine, and their livelihoods aren't threatened. But it's bad when it targets regular people who just live ordinary lives.
I've seen it happen in fandoms over stupid opinions and there are incidents of others doxxing, trying to contact their boss, cheering over attempted suicide or murder attempts.
Cancel culture absolutely exists in America. It's supporters falsely claim that because some of its victims manage to find some modicum of success again that they suffered no harm. I don't know any of its victims that are as successful as they were before they were cancelled
It's like shuhua from g-idle. She's not individually big enough to get in a lot of trouble, but occasionally I do see people getting pissed because she's so unfiltered and strong about her opinions
She definitely speaks her mind and breaks the silent visual stereotype and that’s a good thing. It’s nice to see idols stand up for what they believe in.
Very true that's what happened to some idols recently and they are still receiving hate for doing nothing.
Bruh, I hate how accurate this is, like why tf do people have to cancel everyone for things that happened years ago-
"You wanna write a hate comment with me?"🤣
Canceling people is just ruining society
This was so accurate! Could not be more!
👁️👄👁️ why am I so early??
"YOU'RE CYYANCELLED" 😂😂
Sad how accurate it is, especially in Korea. A good example would be Soojin getting kicked out of G-Idle because a hater accused her of being a middle school bully. #JusticeForSoojin
This is pretty much the same when it comes to celebrities in Japan as well. Just by being *involved* in a scandal can be detrimental to their careers.
Taiwan too
Cancel culture in Eastern Europe:
- youre racist...
- yes
There's really no difference. It's a sad world we live in! This was a funny video!
"Even if your attitude is misunderstood as rude, you'll be cancel." Flashback to Momoland getting massive hate for apparently being "rude", the poor girls were just starting to have some success and it all went downhill.
Ok but that was a good ending because that punchline was spot on 😂
So sad :/ Man hopes go for Korea. I think about that for Japan too, kinda rough
Muslim society does not have this cancel culture, if someone want to be a better person, we always appreciate that. And Allah is the most merciful and beneficent
as a muslim, i second this
cancel culture claims to be able to put a line in the sand of morality like we're mythological hero-gods forgetting morality is always gray, for all of us, no matter how holy, self-righteous or good you think you are. Cancel culture works like an algorithm and we can't reduce humanity to an algorithm. What makes us imperfect is what makes us humans.
this reminded me of garam from le sserafim and at the time she was getting canceled, I was neutral because I wanted to see both sides but obviously the internet only shows the bad side of people. without seeing both sides, it was hard to choose a side to believe. but later on she got kicked out from the group and her contact had been terminated and now that everything is cleared up, she’s still not back in the group. :’)
You clearly miss the point. It doesn't matter whether she was guilty or not. She was a child when it was alleged to occur. Furthermore, It was one incident in middle school and had absolutely nothing to do with her ability to sing & dance. As it turns out, it wasn't even true so I hope the "netizens" who pressured the record company to take action and those that were on the fence feel some shame in their part in ruining a young woman's life
@@dissonantvibe8585 you clearly missed my point. I said I was neutral, did you not see that part? it does matter because if she was a real bully, then she doesn’t deserve the spotlight. bullies don’t deserve fame and wealth and the love from fans, and this applies to anyone, not just garam. obviously she is not guilty, so she shouldn’t have been kicked out but the past is the past, there’s nothing more that can be done to change it.
@@charenny7797 , I understood your point and I still maintain the point of the video went over your head like a plane 30k feet in the sky. You were neutral on whether you should or should not join in on the digital lynching of a 16 year old girl? You were neutral on whether it was right for others to do so?
The philosophy this video criticizes is a philosophy of bullies. They pat themselves on the back that their cause is noble while engaging in some of the most despicable behavior.
I believe in separation of the art & artist so I still maintain that it doesn't matter whether she did or did not as it is irrelevant to her talents. Many of the great artists & musicians & writers did some terrible things, but the world would be worse off without their works. I don't pretend that Kim Garam is on the level of a Classical master, but the point still stands.
If that's not your line, fine. Don't support her & don't listen to Le Serrafim. However, you don't get to decide for the rest of us. That's what this digital lynch mob did. It decided for the rest of us by pressuring her cowardly agency.
Moreover, social dynamics are complex and there is no way a journalist covering pop music is going to take the time to understand or report all the complexities that occurred so how are you going to decide "guilt"?
You don't believe that bullies should be able to be part of polite society. That's a pretty harsh punishment for a childhood transgression. How long should the be exiled? 5 years? 20 years? For life? I have personal experience with bullying so I fully understand it's impact, but I don't believe this should be affecting their professional ambitions
@@dissonantvibe8585 don’t tell me you understood my point and that your point “flew over my head” when you didn’t. you are acting like being neutral is a bad thing. would you rather have one more person to attack someone for the not proven bullying allegations? and you act like I had any power to stop others from pressuring her company. if you wanna talk like that, you should take your own advice first before giving that shit advice to others.
the artist may create good art but you can’t support it. it’s separated, but if you still continue to listen and support it, you are still giving power and fame to that person. do you not understand what? and just how am I deciding for the rest of you? was me saying that I stayed neutral deciding for you? I love how you’re always shoving words into my mouth that I’ve never said, well done.
and her bullying allegations was not that long go. I believe people can and do change but at the time that it was said she was bullying people, it was not that long ago considering she’s only 16. they may not have believed she could change so fast. why do you feel the need to personally attack me as if I were one of the people that pressured the company to terminate her contract? do you find joy in attacking random strangers for saying that they were neutral? if so, you are no better than those people who ruined her life.
@@charenny7797 , some of my argument was directed at the general philosophy of cancel culture and not you as I don't know what actions you have or have not taken. I did this because I wanted to communicate that neutrality is not harmless. Let me try to explain it in another way with more extreme examples. If you heard that someone was tripping random old ladies, you would probably not be neutral. An even more extreme example closer to this issue, would you be neutral if you heard that they were summarily executing someone who said something mean in the school hallways? I'd like to believe you'd be rightfully appalled.
I am heartened to hear that you believe there is a possible statue of limitations for individuals who have made mistakes. Unfortunately, Korean culture doesn't seem to agree as another example of a Korean celebrity who lost his career due to childhood bullying is Ji Soo. He apparently did bully, but the allegations had to have be at least 10 years ago. That's just crazy to me. Can you imagine if a CPA was fired because they were mean in school 10 years ago? Unfortunately, it's not just Koreans as American cancel culture, celebrities have been asked to answer for events 40 or 50 years ago. I've even seen examples of attempts to cancel male celebrities for the awful, unforgivable crime of being a bad boyfriend.
There are many people who seek to justify cancel culture. I wonder many of those people shop at Amazon or Walmart. How many of them work for military industrial complex, the pharmaceutical industry, mainstream media, etc, etc? These companies and industries have done and are doing worse things than even the most evil human could. Still people happily shop or work at them, but will call for a person to lose their livelihood if the say or do something wrong no matter how minor or how long ago it was.
I am sorry you felt like I was attacking you, but cancel culture has been extremely destructive to American culture and the arts over the last 10 years. It disgusts me. Thus, I would hope that even if I can't convince you, others will be convinced or at the very least will not believe that your neutrality opinion is shared by everyone
1:23 the fact that it sounds like "ear cancer" makes it even funnier 🤣
I wanna ask one thing to all the people that always try to cancel celebrities for something they did in the past ( is another story if they continue
-and don’t apologize) Aren’t they human like us? Can’t they make mistake too? I’m so sure each and every one of us when we were younger and ignorant
We too committed a lot of mistakes, so why try to ruin someone’s lives and career for something they did in the past.
True, but crazy people with too much time on their hands don't want to hear that.
That's why artists like Jessi are a true phenomenon.
I hope one day kpop artists will be able to express themselves as they want to and not only say what their label wants them to say
The whole "you're cancelled! No YOU'RE cancelled!" bit is just everyone under 25 its perfect 👌
Me thinking of my baby Irene...😢💕
This was so deep!
At this rate, people are gonna get cancelled just for breathing.
Soo jin and ga-ram! Why do companies do this! I’d someone says something they act like right away before dining out the truth, it’s sad 😔
Omggggg I am so early that ariana still has tears left to cry ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
Omg I was expecting the Korean cancel culture to be a lot more chill, but damn 😮
bullying in korea be on a whole other level na u not bout to pull that “they probably bettered themselves” card
true, but the accusation is false
@@otaku-chan4888 i don’t know much about that girl’s situation and i never paid much attention to it in the first place so i wont comment on it; im just talking about the part he tries to say a bully can change when a lot of these bullying situations are severe so them ~changing~ doesn’t erase the trauma their victims must live with
@@WhatYouThought_ _nothing_ can erase the victim's hurt. You're right that a person changing doesn't rewrite the past, but neither does them losing their career. What has been done can't be undone.
I personally don't think it's right for someone to be stripped of their livelihoods and everything they've worked for because they were mean as a teenager.
@@WhitePaintbrush again you’re trying to relate this to that girl but again i never paid attention so this has nothing to do with her. But, if someone bullied someone to the point where they needs counseling yea they should face consequences and i don’t care if those consequences affect them even in adulthood. bullying is more than someone being called “loser” by a classmate; people start getting physical and mentally mess someone up to the point that ruins their lives even to the point it carries on to their adult lives. so yea if someone is found out to have been a bully to that extent they should lose their job or whatever consequences they face bc even as a teen there’s a line you should know not to cross.
@@WhatYouThought_ I made no mention of Garam nor referenced anything specific about her case. This is my general sentiment on the topic. I don't like when "consequences," are in the hands of the court of public opinion, really ever.
This is so true! I know some koreans who think how ridiculous it is. Yet people act like this.
Yeah! Some koreans have an issue with successful people. I cant imagine living around such people but this is a reality.
In South Korea, there are two types of people. 1. Proud citizens of the Republic of Korea who are doing their best in capitalist society and free market economy. 2. People with Joseon dynasty / North Korean mindset who should've born in North Korea.
Made my dayyy👌💗
This is actually quite a serious problem.
Love ur videos
Well, in Korea, the celebs _stay_ canceled. In America, give the celebs a few years of laying low and they'll end up getting fame/acceptance again.
Legends say that until now, they're still being cancelled