Making of: Alice 1958 Disneyland Dark Ride Recreation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- A lot of folks asked if we would do a "Making Of" video for how we were able to create a virtual version of the 1958 Alice in Wonderland dark ride at Disneyland. Here is a walk-through of the steps we took to bring this lost attraction back to life.
Notes on the Project:
This project recreates the original version of Disneyland’s “Alice in Wonderland” attraction, which opened in 1958. This unique show was destroyed in 1983 after 25 years, having been visited by millions of Disneyland guests.
No film or video documentation was found and almost no clear photography, so we have taken creative liberties to fill in the gaps. Some of our efforts may have improved what was originally there. This is true of the soundtrack as well. Our goal was not to create a historical document but to preserve the impression and style of the original.
The 1958 attraction’s lead designer, Claude Coats, was clearly influenced by carnival spook-house rides and “Tunnels of Love” popular at the time, where the experience was deliberately dark and frightening. The art direction was remarkably crude by today’s standards, which is why the show was gutted to make way for a new version in 1984, which more closely resembled the animated film.
Our research revealed, for example, that the faces of the White Rabbit, Cheshire Cat and Dormouse were repainted over the years to make them more recognizable and less threatening. The looming figures of a furious Mad Hatter and March Hare were completely replaced at one point to make them less terrorizing.
Claude Coats’ vision suffered from limited space, budget, and technology, but was remarkable for many reasons and quite worth preserving. Please note that this version of the video does not allow for animated props to move or doors to swing open. The video includes the indoor portion only, as the final third of the ride-the descent down a winding vine of leaves-did not reenter the building for another scene as it does today.
More information about the creation of this video follows at the end.
CREDITS FOR THE ORIGINAL ATTRACTION:
Bill Martin & Claude Coats: Scenic Design
Ub Iwerks, Wathel Rogers & Roger Broggie: Mechanical Engineering, Animation & Scenic Effects
Grosh and Sons - Scenery & Murals
CREDITS FOR VIDEO RE-CREATION:
Don Carson - Art DirectionDaniel
Rover Singer - Art Direction
Karen Thompson - Flower Garden Color Designer
Heidi Hirsch - Tulgey Wood Color Designer
Special Thanks to Christopher Merritt & Jeffery Weissman
*This project is not associated with the Walt Disney Co in any way but is a fan tribute to a much loved classic attraction. Please enjoy this video as a love letter to the Disney parks and the Imagineers that bring these stories to life. - บันเทิง
If you do 1950s Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, you’ll be a hero in my book.
As someone who dabbles in computer graphics and has a passion for Imagineering of the 1960s, this entire project you four put together is a true inspiration. Thanks for creating this great gift for us to enjoy.
This is fantastic. I used to bring a small cassette tape recorder into Disneyland in the 70s just to record the rides and I remember during the 70s the Alice attraction was very similar to this. I have been the narrator of a Disney ride for almost the last 30 years, so this kind of thing fascinate me to no end.
I got all my timing from similar 1970s riders that recorded the attraction. Back then they didn’t sound proof each scene so you could hear everything all at once. The good old days weren’t always THAT great. I wish we could revisit all the the now gone attractions, it is like visiting an archeological dig site and then reliving a time gone by.
@@DJCarsonCreative In Pirates you can hear all the scenes overlapping each other and I always liked that, but one thing I cannot understand is why in the Fantasyland facelift in the 80s did they remove the upside down room from the Alice ride when it is clearly such a great sight gag? and so nice to see it in the video.
@@gargantuaism I agree, the upside-down room is something you just can't otherwise experience in the "real world" and losing it was sad. I do like the larger garden so I guess sacrifices were made. I also really like the more recent additions of projections.
@@DJCarsonCreative Didn't the upside down room also have an image of YOU coming towards a mirror and your image was then upside down?
@@gargantuaism Yes, there was a curved mirror as you first enter the upside down room which inverted your reflection. I have it in my model but the render doesn’t capture the effect.
Original Snow White ride please!!!! 💕
This is very incredible! I love how this all came together. Seeing this just makes me wish such a recreation can be done with the original Knott’s Bear-y Tales. I’d do anything to see that ride remade in this style…
I would love that too! Knott’s Bear-y Tales was a classic taken from us too soon
Thank you! That was really interesting!!! I'm sure, I will watch this again and again))
Don, you are EXTREMELY talented. These videos are amazing and I can’t wait to see you recreate more Disney and universal rides
Thank you so much both for making the VR ride and explaining how you did it! I hope this sets a precedent for future ride recreations, especially involving Imagineers and official employees at various amusement parks. This seems like a great way to maintain the history of the rides while allowing the physical ones to change and grow over the years.
3:47 Just to let you know, these cut outs where replacements of the originals because they scared children being mad at them and constantly yelling about how bad there behavior was. Thats where the 'put down' in the ride audio came from. You can see the og in 3:56
You are so talented!! Thank you so much for absolutely amazing work!! This is so interesting. I love it... I can't wait for your next project!!
This is fascinating! Thank you for sharing your amazing skills with us!
Very nice video! I'd love to see recreations of other Disneyland dark rides! One I'd really love to see is the original 1964-65 New York World's Fair version of It's a Small World but that would take a very long time and will be too stressfull.
Can You Make journey into imagination original version
@@disneylover3434 - I would love to see that too, I am hoping our little project will inspire others to take on the task of bringing many loved but retired attractions back to life.
@@DJCarsonCreative you’ve inspired me greatly with this project. I really need to learn 3D so that I can do things like this.
This is very cool! This would probably be hard but could you make a recreation of the original Mr. Toad ride?
fantastic work, would love to see more
This is amazing
Love this !
The "Like" button seems insufficient - I wish there was a "Love" button. This project was, in my opinion, one of the best things to come along during the Pandemic. I know you're a busy guy, but is there any chance you've got the itch to do any more Disneyland reconstructions like this? I can think of a couple attractions like this that I would KILL to see ressurected!
Brandon - I think there is lots of potential to recreate just about any loved and lost attraction, but the access to reference is slim. If we could get our hands on original show set drawings then it would be very possible, for Disney or a small outside group of artists.
@@DJCarsonCreative I assume you've seen the Adventures Thru Inner Space digital recreation that a fan made years ago? And the Disney-made digital recreation of the Castle Walkthrough for the Sleeping Beauty DVD? Things like that, and now this, make my heart flutter.
Disney surely has the resources to do this for just about any lost attraction - I can't help but wish they had a section of Disney+ dedicated to the Parks, with a subsection for video ridethroughs of long-done favorites. Perhaps something worth proposing?
Brandon Hardy - So do I! Yes, the Adventures Thru Inner Space VR version was the inspiration that told us this was possible!
As someone who is attempting to remake aspects of 60s Disneyland in CG, your video is truly inspiring to me! Do you happen to know where to find other vintage ride plans from that era?
Did you use Yesterworld's video on the Alice ride as a guide?
i just think it should look scarrier
Do you mind posting a full-resolution version of those 1958 blueprints? Also, are there any other vintage dark ride blueprints available from the same source?
What audio did you use? From the ride
Yes. It was an enhanced audio recording of the full ride from 1971 mixed with some audio from the film.
Is there a way to ride this in stereoscopic 3D? Watching the 360 video in TH-cam VR feels weird since everything's huge?
What software technology did you use to create this ride?
I used Photoshop, Procreate, SketchUp, Enscape, and Unity for all of this.
Out of curiosity, where did you get those reference photos used in this video?
Probably no other Disneyland dark ride fascinated both Rover and me more than the Alice attraction so we had been collecting images for years. Nearly everything we used came from either obscure corners of the Internet or from fans of Alice that had their own stash of images. Honestly, we didn't ask where they originally got them from we were just happy to have the reference.
@@DJCarsonCreative Ok, I understand that. This fascinates me more than any other dark ride too, if I'm being honest. By the way, did you know that before the overhaul in the 60's, the Mad Hatter and March Hare would pop up from the floor and scream at you to "move down" when you reached the end of the table?
Jacob Lakins - Yes, we did take some creative license and go with the friendlier 60s version of the Hatter and Hare which were less scary.
@@DJCarsonCreative Ah, I see! I noticed you did that with the Cheshire Cat as well, since he didn't have those weird rippled cheeks that he had originally.
3:17can you show us some more pictures besides these like the boom room?
1) I love this project; 2) I tried the VR movie out on TH-cam VR on my Oculus Quest 2, and while it was certainly great, I longed for both faster frame rate and higher resolution. Is there anywhere I can go for a higher-quality playthrough? Thank you for doing this.
Hi Greg, Yes there are limits to the resolution on TH-cam 360 videos. I could have exported a VR build of the ride but in the end, I chose TH-cam as a delivery method that could reach the widest audience, including people without VR headsets. In the future, I hope there is a more standard ubiquitous venue for posting VR content, TH-cam for VR experiences as it were.