for me, the only true Vergil is from dmc3. Its movement is clean and unique. From dmc4 onwards, his movement became desperate and amateurish, no longer majestic, decisive and direct as in 3
@@inominado1975have you ever thought that *maybe* Vergil used to move like a very well polished *brick* and now he's a bottle of smooth liquid silver? Young Vergil had grace in terms of being quick: swing, cut, kill. Because he never fought hordes of enemies in DMC3, his opponents were rare single demons and (amateur) Dante. After he fell into Hell, he not only grew up to realize that dueling isn't possible when you're trying to eradicate A LOT of enemies to gain power (aka became more realistic in his approach) but also started growing a bit like Dante - he styles more often despite retaining efficiency, and both these things increase his efficiency (reflected in Concentration being his main mechanic) He grew as a character and it shows
@@jpjfrey5673 Dude, forgive me but you're trying to justify a nerf. It's already cliché that someone who has trained a lot in a martial art or anything else can do it smoothly, with control and mastery. If you want to say that the moves were adapted in the game to hit more enemies, that's fine, but in a story sense, it's a decline.
I think rhe reason dt changes with weapons is because of how little mastery of it both dante and vergil had, since they now have the mastery complete it doesnt change, also all this might be cause they were lazy to come up with changes for a literal motorbike but ye
@Vergil_Tuga the DT for the motorcycle would have been so rad though, let's be honest. It just was a little detail that was nice. I get why they don't anymore, still miss it though
@@dadecalder7796 i mean you if rlly want the DT that changes you got dmc4 with vergil, his DT still changes only with beowulf but it changes, as for dante i have no idea
The reason behind that it's because the deal for Dante to be in Shin Megami Tensei III was for Kazuma Kaneko to draw some designs for DMC3, so he maded all the DT designs for Dante and Vergil, so You can see in the Main Menu the name of ATLUS there as a collaborator
Vergil in this game is criminally underrated. Even though he's no where good as dmc5 vergil and dmc4 vergil, I loved playing as him in this game even if he lacks a few things.
@@master_of_glaives yeah but in dmc 3 is was a far longer combo where he switched between both and at the end he does the coolest sheath animation, combo b is just him swinging a lot i like it, but i prefer the old one
@@endless-night isn't it just lame block? Or just vs projectiles? Parrying by attacking doesn't counts. And his boss-version has a proper one, players cucked again.
@@cambalache9139 in dmc5, instead of a cone it's a slash in the ground the cone and slash are meant to indicate where a judgement cut is about to strike to someone playing as Dante or Nero, fighting Vergil
Eu sei q vc n vai entender esse comentário, mas é, basicamente tu segura o botão triângulo, dps mira em algum inimigo, e aperta o o analógico pra trás e o outro pra frente
In the final boss fight... Vergil has like an ultimate judgement cut that trails and follows you and a looping super helm breaker...Can only the CPU controlled stage version perform the moves described????
Yes. You can replicate helm breaker loop however, just spam upper teleport into it. You won't be teleported as high as the boss, but will do helm breaker just fine still. UPD: You can do it only 4 times before he starts to parry, and you can teleport very high if you jump beforehand.
guys is it worth it to play as vergil with that code to get him early and not be able to play as dante and lose my progress i made it to mission 9 and i got swordsmaster level 2
The biggest problem with Vergil’s moveset imo is that you don’t have a double jump or good dodge until you unlock trick up and trick down and even they are questionable
Nelo Angelo in fact is other version of Vergil, but more like a Alter Ego, after he was defeated by Dante in DMC3 and decided to stay in the underworld, he was found by Mundus (Main antagonist of DMC1, killer of Dante and Vergil's mom and worst enemy of Sparda) Vergil tries to fight to him (thinking that his father was cappable of defeat the emperor of underworld, he can too) unfortunally because the damage of his fight with Dante , Vergil loses and Mundus decided to use him like a slave, torturing his mind and changing his body to become him in the perfect warrior with the only propoise to kill Dante and eliminate the Sparda bloodline to conquer the world, the first version of that warrior was Gilver (another alter ego of Vergil) this one lose to Dante, because that, Mundus upgraded him to make Vergil more stronger, in result he become in the perfect warrior of Mundus, Nelo Angelo, the dark angel based in the Proto Angelos designs of DMC5
@@RandomGameClips27 It's a character from the DMC Novel, it was written when the only game was DMC 1 so there are a few inconsistencies and retcons overall but it's very much canon. Gilver was a mercenary with a bandaged face that used a Katana and at the end of the novel when Dante kills him he is revealed to be in fact, Vergil. This was retconned so that Gilver is a clone made in Vergil's image using Dante's and Vergil's battle data (this was before Vergil was captured and turned into Nelo Angelo because the DMC Novel happens before DMC 3 and the DMC 3 manga). Also Nico's grandmother, the 45 caliber master appears in this novel. Her name is Nell Goldstein and she's the creator of Ebony and Ivory
Yeah, before DMC4 the whole concept of Yamato was that it was his slowest but most punishing weapon while Force Edge was his fastest, but they realized that didn't really make thematic sense so now Yamato is his fastest and Force Edge is just kinda for combo sauce.
lol everything feels sl slow, like not vergil really like. DMC4 Vergil is way faster and powerful and DMC4 Vergil plays before DMC3. But yeah it's a PS2 I get it. PS3 and PS4 is of course more powerful and can produce better special effects and so on. I know. Its their first work on this character so it makes all sense.
I think it's because in DMC 3 SE the devs didn't have that big of an idea what to do with Vergil, his moveset is overall limited having only one combo on each weapon and a few special attacks. So they didn't think to make him this mobile and quick character
I miss the idea of being able to perform Rising Sun alone. Its a sick launch chain to any ground to air combo.
Genocide Cuttah!!
@@carltasticdrew9633 kof reference
Rugal
Dmc3 Vergil has a simple yet efficient moveset, with very clear pros and cons. Even after a few years since DMC5 I still like his design in 3.
These glassy effects are unique to dmc 3
for me, the only true Vergil is from dmc3. Its movement is clean and unique. From dmc4 onwards, his movement became desperate and amateurish, no longer majestic, decisive and direct as in 3
@paddyscott9513 sorry, i already rewrite
@@inominado1975have you ever thought that *maybe* Vergil used to move like a very well polished *brick* and now he's a bottle of smooth liquid silver?
Young Vergil had grace in terms of being quick: swing, cut, kill. Because he never fought hordes of enemies in DMC3, his opponents were rare single demons and (amateur) Dante. After he fell into Hell, he not only grew up to realize that dueling isn't possible when you're trying to eradicate A LOT of enemies to gain power (aka became more realistic in his approach) but also started growing a bit like Dante - he styles more often despite retaining efficiency, and both these things increase his efficiency (reflected in Concentration being his main mechanic)
He grew as a character and it shows
@@jpjfrey5673 Dude, forgive me but you're trying to justify a nerf. It's already cliché that someone who has trained a lot in a martial art or anything else can do it smoothly, with control and mastery. If you want to say that the moves were adapted in the game to hit more enemies, that's fine, but in a story sense, it's a decline.
Man, I miss when every DT changed depending on your weapon equipped, it was fun to see the little differences and I wish they would bring that back
I think rhe reason dt changes with weapons is because of how little mastery of it both dante and vergil had, since they now have the mastery complete it doesnt change, also all this might be cause they were lazy to come up with changes for a literal motorbike but ye
@Vergil_Tuga the DT for the motorcycle would have been so rad though, let's be honest. It just was a little detail that was nice. I get why they don't anymore, still miss it though
@@dadecalder7796 i mean you if rlly want the DT that changes you got dmc4 with vergil, his DT still changes only with beowulf but it changes, as for dante i have no idea
The reason behind that it's because the deal for Dante to be in Shin Megami Tensei III was for Kazuma Kaneko to draw some designs for DMC3, so he maded all the DT designs for Dante and Vergil, so You can see in the Main Menu the name of ATLUS there as a collaborator
Knew you would include Nelo Angelo. Good job.
Thanks!
@@sykiohBro u missed the jce and hell on earth
he didn't have JCE until DMC4 iirc, and Hell on Earth didn't become a thing until DMC5
@@ArdynLucisCaelum47 Those are boss exclusive movements.
I love how he twirls Yamato before sheathing it, guess he was young once too
As much as i’d love to hear that story, i think its about time we…
Ended this.
*Enters Sin Devil Trigger*
the dt voice lines are still some of my favorite fighting noises to this day
It is so interesting how both brothers use Beowulf. Dante uses more punch techniques, but Vergil uses more kick techniques
That's because kicks are more powerful than punches.
@@liltone829 bro is min maxing
@@Gallacanti mean vergil is all about power
Dmc5 dante is both
1. Yamato : Vergil's Katana
2. Beowulf : Luminous Gauntlets & Greaves.
3. Summoned Swords : Projectile Blades
4. Force Edge : Standard Broadsword
5. Darkslayer :Spatial Slicing Style
6. Nelo Angelo : Dark Angel Armor
He has 2 swords 3 swords if u include summon sword. So what is dark slayer a play style? (nero Angelo has his own sword)
@@trulgn darkslayer is basically like Dantes tricker style to use when you want to avoid enemy attacks or if you want to teleport to an enemy.
@@XanderGernandez nice. thanks
@@trulgn no problem.
Nice vid bro I subbed, you’re one of the few people who actually shows all the moves including stuff like nelo Angelo
Thanks for the sub!
I just love the orb-void-like thing and the sound effect when he does the Judgement Cut, it just hits different
Kind of wish vergil 3 was used for force edge just to reactivate someones PTSD
Vergil in this game is criminally underrated. Even though he's no where good as dmc5 vergil and dmc4 vergil, I loved playing as him in this game even if he lacks a few things.
DMC5 Vergil is simply broken. Seriously, you can delete any boss easily, even if you're not the best player in the world
@@nomercyCkand that's a good thing! Capcom didn't stick with "nerf a boss to shit to make him playable" rule and it's perfect!
@@nomercyCk I mean I'd argue all Vergils are, even in DMC3, I have an easier time with all the bosses and levels with Vergil than Dante lmao.
@@nomercyCk Ah yes, SDT + Doppelganger + multiple judgement cuts
I prefered 3's Lunar phase over 4,5. It just feel weird without forward momentum.
I miss when Vergil used both the katana and the force edge in his basic combo, him putting both away looks so clean as well.
I wish in DMC6, Vergil's Mirage Edge has a Combo C. Where it's the DMC3 combo of Force Edge.
he still use both of them in dmc5 in combo B
@@master_of_glaives yeah but in dmc 3 is was a far longer combo where he switched between both and at the end he does the coolest sheath animation, combo b is just him swinging a lot i like it, but i prefer the old one
I kinda don't but that's me personally, I prefer Force Edge being a seperate weapon
It’s so weird not having the Concentration gauge
The what?
@@yungjunkie666 DMC4-5 Vergil has a concentration gauge. The higher the gauge, the more damage and unique attacks follow suit.
1:56 Gen0side Cutter
If only he had his boss-parry in like _any_ game...
Well the spam non lock air trick still works like in dmc 4 so no need for a parry ngl
@@ZeR-nr6if eh it's more about style and character feel, indeed he has other ways to defend. Parry could've even had unique follow-ups...
I mean, he HAS an parry technique in DMC5
@@endless-night isn't it just lame block? Or just vs projectiles? Parrying by attacking doesn't counts. And his boss-version has a proper one, players cucked again.
Only DMC 3 cut effect from blader is satisfied than others
I saw Jerry once use the summoned swords on Tom once when they were fighting in a construction site
upper slash would be really cool in dmc5
I know right?
Vergil is the definition of "The boss Became playable but now he's even better"
If i remember correctly the ''you shall die'' taunt will regenerate dt gauge rapidly if you don't move
in 0:43
What is the meaning of the conical shape that appears before judgement cut?
That’s the space where the slashes are teleported to
In DMC 3 the cone appears before the slash orb. I know it doesnt appear un 5 and perhaps it's also missing in 4
@@cambalache9139 in dmc5, instead of a cone it's a slash in the ground
the cone and slash are meant to indicate where a judgement cut is about to strike to someone playing as Dante or Nero, fighting Vergil
4:29How do I do that with swords? I'm playing on mobile and I don't know which key to press to make them appear like this 😭😭
Eu sei q vc n vai entender esse comentário, mas é, basicamente tu segura o botão triângulo, dps mira em algum inimigo, e aperta o o analógico pra trás e o outro pra frente
Lock on + hold ranged + move backwards and press ranged.
i recommend playing using a controller (if you haven't), big game changer
The music is amazing!!!
It makes me happy that Vergil had the same voice actor through the whole series. Don't know why
In the final boss fight... Vergil has like an ultimate judgement cut that trails and follows you and a looping super helm breaker...Can only the CPU controlled stage version perform the moves described????
Yes. You can replicate helm breaker loop however, just spam upper teleport into it. You won't be teleported as high as the boss, but will do helm breaker just fine still.
UPD: You can do it only 4 times before he starts to parry, and you can teleport very high if you jump beforehand.
i heard dmc3 vergil movesets got removed bc ps2 couldnt handle it it didnt have much memory
Never liked using the three weapons altogether, more of a ground varying type so third weapon just got in the way
guys is it worth it to play as vergil with that code to get him early and not be able to play as dante and lose my progress i made it to mission 9 and i got swordsmaster level 2
Uh wow, in DMC3 DT didn't changed the animations of basic combo?
Nah bro, that started with dmc4se
While DMC1 & 2 had alternate moves for DT, 3 probably omitted that since there’s already enough stuff for the PlayStation to process
All Vergil styles
The biggest problem with Vergil’s moveset imo is that you don’t have a double jump or good dodge until you unlock trick up and trick down and even they are questionable
Who really is Nelo Angelo?
Is he like V, Variants of Vergil?
or he is a whole another demon?
Nelo Angelo in fact is other version of Vergil, but more like a Alter Ego, after he was defeated by Dante in DMC3 and decided to stay in the underworld, he was found by Mundus (Main antagonist of DMC1, killer of Dante and Vergil's mom and worst enemy of Sparda) Vergil tries to fight to him (thinking that his father was cappable of defeat the emperor of underworld, he can too) unfortunally because the damage of his fight with Dante , Vergil loses and Mundus decided to use him like a slave, torturing his mind and changing his body to become him in the perfect warrior with the only propoise to kill Dante and eliminate the Sparda bloodline to conquer the world, the first version of that warrior was Gilver (another alter ego of Vergil) this one lose to Dante, because that, Mundus upgraded him to make Vergil more stronger, in result he become in the perfect warrior of Mundus, Nelo Angelo, the dark angel based in the Proto Angelos designs of DMC5
@@vegatto3921 wow thanks, so cavalier angelo in dmc5 is a whole another person?
@@ravenxblaze2531 Yeah.
@@vegatto3921 who is gilver ?
@@RandomGameClips27 It's a character from the DMC Novel, it was written when the only game was DMC 1 so there are a few inconsistencies and retcons overall but it's very much canon. Gilver was a mercenary with a bandaged face that used a Katana and at the end of the novel when Dante kills him he is revealed to be in fact, Vergil. This was retconned so that Gilver is a clone made in Vergil's image using Dante's and Vergil's battle data (this was before Vergil was captured and turned into Nelo Angelo because the DMC Novel happens before DMC 3 and the DMC 3 manga). Also Nico's grandmother, the 45 caliber master appears in this novel. Her name is Nell Goldstein and she's the creator of Ebony and Ivory
Is there a perry?
No but the boss does
Lmao yeah the one thing that could disappoint anyone just coming from the boss, myself included
DMC3 Judgement Cut: 😂
DMC4/5 Judgement Cut: 😈
0:41 😮
Ah yes dmc3se when the meta back then is spam starfall while charging DT flux
I hate to say this but in this yamato was kinda slow
Yeah, before DMC4 the whole concept of Yamato was that it was his slowest but most punishing weapon while Force Edge was his fastest, but they realized that didn't really make thematic sense so now Yamato is his fastest and Force Edge is just kinda for combo sauce.
lol everything feels sl slow, like not vergil really like. DMC4 Vergil is way faster and powerful and DMC4 Vergil plays before DMC3. But yeah it's a PS2 I get it. PS3 and PS4 is of course more powerful and can produce better special effects and so on. I know. Its their first work on this character so it makes all sense.
I think it's because in DMC 3 SE the devs didn't have that big of an idea what to do with Vergil, his moveset is overall limited having only one combo on each weapon and a few special attacks. So they didn't think to make him this mobile and quick character
vergil es tan cbron que usa dos espadas a la vez
1:13
Dont tell me you finished the entire game for our beloved chair boi, or maybe you got some kind of torrented dmc3?
Damn, Vergil is shit in DMC 3, only Nelo Angelo help with his poor combos.
Skill Issue
But Nelo has less Combo Potency than Vergil in base