Steve Jobs and John Lasseter interview on Pixar (1996)
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- A conversation about Pixar with CEO Steve Jobs and John Lasseter, director of the film "Toy Story."
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It's so funny watching this interview, knowing the "Next" year Steve was going to return to Apple, and would begin a journey which would go down in history as perhaps the greatest business turn around and success story of all time.
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it’s like charles already knows the way he’s eluding to something
You can remove "perhaps" from your comment ;)
There is a conversation that the foundation for Steve’s success was laid by Gil Amelio. Steve Job’s return was possible because of Gil’s effort but they didn’t stop Steve from taking him down and becoming new CEO. In any case, the story behind Apple and Steve Job’s success is fascinating.
@@leighmassonSo “did” I.😊🤣
two bright men trying to explain magic to a rock
Holy shit, this was hilarious 😂😂
This is one of the better comments I've seen on TH-cam.
As brutal as Jobs could get, it looked like Lasseter was about to roast the interviewer at any moment.
It can't be a Charlie Rose interview without at least a dozen interruptions.
Also sets a good rhythm which you’re overlooking
yeah he keeps it moving but he also sometimes drags out his hypothetical answers to his own questions
*interrupts John* "Ima interrupt MYSELF"
He did it on the first question lmao
Lassetter wants to punch him in the face by the end.
Steve Jobs made his first billion with Pixar not apple! He then went back to apple & fixed it! True genius! 🤯🤯🤯🤯
Coz he sold all his stocks in apple excep 1 in 1985…. Hadn’t he sold him… he would be worth 300 billion
@@aniket385 him selling his apple shares is what gave him the money to invest in Pixar. It’s still Pixar that factually first made him a billionaire…indeed though if he kept his approx 12% of apple shares that would make him the richest person in the world today! All very fascinating! Just proves real entrepreneurs are really interested in ideas rather than just making money. 🤯🤯🤯
What an amazing analogy: "We don't see this technology replacing art or creativity, we see it as great new expensive pencils for the artists."
Steve Jobs: opens mouth
Interviwer: Stop, stop, stop stop stop!!!!
Hehehe...
Psh
Dude calm down just ask him
RIP Steve Jobs! There will never be another visionary, innovative, and creative genius like him! 🙏🏼
people say that steve was control freak, showman, and someone who stole credit from others.. whereas he was just impatient and very driven, a visionary that was way ahead of his time. he knew what he was good at and always accredited his team.. he always said how he was proud of his team and how nothing was possible without them. he will be greatly missed
maryam khan he was all these things
people didn't say anything. just shut the fuck up.
I'm an Android die hard. But I will always miss and respect Steve.
Steve Jobs: opens mouth
Interviwer: Stop, stop, stop stop stop!!!!
jobs basically stole a few thousand dollars from wozniak - lied to him about the amount of a payment that they were supposed to split 50/50, keeping most of the money for himself. he was all the things you mentioned but also a bit of a scumbag.
Once again Jobs was making history. Who would have thought then Jobs only had 15 years to live and he really made it worth the time he had.
You can see how much respect does steve have for john, that’s tells a lot about john’s integrity and work ethics.
That’s a big reason why Pixar to others isn’t what it once was. Because John is the heart and soul of that amazing animation studio.
@@ravastarkskywalkermcqueen95 yep.
@@ravastarkskywalkermcqueen95Hes not the only person responsible for pixar's success
you can see he’s hurting talking about apple. as a founder, he is definitely watching their every move and in his head thinking what he should’ve would’ve could’ve done different. glad history worked out the way it did and steve came back home to apple
Ya Steve definitely loved apple …. You know most of time 90 s a company going would be vultured off and broken into small parts and sold for profit… this was a world of corporate raiders …. Not only Steve goes against 99% of what others are doing and doesn’t break company and make a small profit…. He plans a long term comeback…. And leaves Apple as a biggest company by revenue….so like he said his core values at apple and the great way he led the company by hiring and firing the right people is a great thing
Not just high IQ, but high social intelligence and high charisma. Very unusual to have all three in such large measure.
At least he used it all to enhance everyone's lives, and didn't become an evil dictator or some such.
I doubt high IQ but excellent leadership skills tho
@@dk-zp5ze Haha how can you doubt the high IQ, stupid :'D
And charisma, of course, absolutely, off the charts.
However, social intelligence? Maybe at this stage in his life. As a youngster, though, he seems to have been pretty insufferable.
@@dk-zp5ze Depends, is being able to see the long vision a staple of high IQ? I imagine so. He saw the huge potential value of personal computers and digital animation long before many others.
"I attend to stay as i'm until someone kick me out" - Steve Jobs
He said that referring to what happened to him at apple, but it's a hell of a line
that last phrase worth the whole intervew
They are all social distancing round that table, Steve truly was ahead of his time.
Steve Jobs also introduced to the world the concept of business casual attire :P
Maybe he knew he was with 2 sex pests?
@@taimalik1110 Steve Job’s baby’s mama Chrisann Brennan used to tell his daughter Lisa Brennan Jobs that he wore jeans with holes since high school, and “sometimes there were more holes than jeans.” (Back before it was fashionable from 80’s punk) This was in response to the kid asking “If Dad is a multimillionaire, how come there are always holes in his jeans?” (And almost no furniture in his mansion.)
I got that from her autobiography _Small Fry._
It’s crazy how important this interview is
And ironic how bad the interviewer is
People are sleeping on the Jobs’ closing line, that was golden
What’s wild is out of these 3 guys Steve was the most respectful to women
LOL are you sure?
@@siskavard well sure Jobs was an A-hole to his baby mama and neglected his daughter but idk about any harassment allegations
I miss you a lot Steve!
His employees be like: “No, we’re not.”
@@404neverfound3 lol
@@404neverfound3 actual employee like "YES WE ARE"!
You mean John
He magnetized towards the guy. Steve Jobs. He felt it. Fabulous interview. The reality is. Steve Jobs was the guy to talk to. And he felt it. Seems. Nice
You know I tend to stay where I start until someone kicks me out
lol
"and with that said, Goodbye Steve!"
13:13 - That moment right there. Amazing.
I tend to stay where I stay until someone kicks me out a brilliant line Steve
Charlie Rose asked Steve Jobs if he uses the internet. Hard hitting journalism.
In 96’
@@romerobryan83 my entire senior class in high school was using the internet in 96. It's 96, not 86
@@drewpowers7236 damn that was a fast response, and oh I didn’t know that, I was born in 98 and felt like the internet wasn’t that popular when I was growing up
@@romerobryan83 yeah for some reason youtube alerted me of this comment and i was bored and replied lol. Yeah I mean it was dial up then but it was hitting the masses already. Jobs would of been on it for years by that point
"...we have alot of fun." THAT is awesome!!! I would LOVE to create with these guys!
very cool to watch this interview after reading the Ed Catmull's book
Charlie Rose interrupts too much, and is clearly out of his league. He seems to marginalize Lasseter & Jobs, instead of asking very researched pointed questions - These are experts with genius and talent beyond our imagination. I've listened to a multitude of Jobs' interviews and they are all fascinating and jaw dropping.
John is clearly bothered in the interview hahahaaha interviews are supposed to bring new insghts to audience, yet, this guy doesnt allow them to elaborate and follow through...
Agree…. Was looking for this.
super smooth Steve the way he ends it is epic!! we learn from you
That look Lasseter throws at Rose at the end says it all.
hahahahahahah
Lol so true
20:40 "Am I going to come back in 5 years and find out you had some other business?" Yes, Music, oh Yes and Phones on yes... and!
Lassiter says they can’t afford to do a scene ten different ways 8:55 - but they used to make those hilarious bloopers at the end of Pixar movies which were unnecessary & hilarious. Worth it. Shows great character of the creators and gives more depth to the characters in the stories
That isn't a contradiction. The bloopers were intentional gags, not an example of them doing a scene ten different ways.
Charlie knew Steve would be back to computing business
The one quality you can't refuse to acknowledge in Steve is that he was a leader who never diminished his people. He put them on a pedestal and said everything became possible because of them.
Steve Jobs had many amazing qualities, but he absolutely did diminish people outside of the press. He is very famous for blowing up at engineers who had just pulled all nighters or 80 hour weeks to try and get something good enough that still didn’t achieve the level Steve wanted yet.
Hahaha I'm sorry but he absolutely did.
In public he was a great marketer, but he was a famously abusive boss. He demanded nothing less than perfection, and didn't care about how he would get there.
@@jajajinks1569 There are many publicly available videos where he puts his team first, acknowledging how he stands as just a symbol but it is the team that makes amazing things happen. Let's give him the credit he easily deserves.
@@shahzadaayub That doesn't contradict what I said. He was a great marketer, and he was also a pretty abusive boss in private.
I read his autobiography last week. Many MANY people have very bad anecdotes of him. But he was also a fantastic visionary that could move mountains to achieve the impossible - and sometimes that meant manipulating people using every technique in his book, and being an asshole to the extreme.
I highly recommend the book btw, Walter Isaacson tried really hard to show both sides of him in a fair way, and I came away with a much bigger appreciation of Steve.
Steve was the man. Some people hate him, but to me he is the embodiment of the american dream. smart and driven with a special vision
couldn't have said it better myself
I know a lot of people are annoyed by the interviewer (I am too), but try to take in the interview this way: Steve Jobs has always had something to say and said it. Maybe this is a good opportunity to see what it's like to try and drive Steve Jobs' conversation and see where it would take him.
how he shifted the whole conversation from creating the technology in the sake of entertainment
Man, was Charlie Rose's accent as big as the Blue Ridge mountains back then...
Still bringing up Microsoft-Apple at a time when it looked like Steve lost. Could only imagine how redeeming it was when he made his big comeback with Apple after the huge hit with Pixar that made him Disney's number one shareholder.
Good final answer Steve, we admire a lot
Charlie Rose looks like Woody of Toy Story
This interview makes my soul happy.
i just want to hear more of Steve talking, unfortunately he didn't talk a lot
That’s because he knew John was the one who made Toy Story happen. He was letting him talk.
@@danielpowell482 also all he wanted was the highlights, he wanted to hear how they used the sun’s energy using a Dyson sphere in order to get Woody’s hat to be the right shade of brown and then attribute that to the reason that the film is good
Here’s another thing I admire Steve Jobs for.
They are in it for the storytelling, and the technology is only there in service for the storytelling!
I happen to be of the same opinion about the peck order of technology vs business ideas
Technology is tools, not the means!
Hard to understand that today but it's true, technology should be only a tool.
To be honest, I was never attracted to Steve Jobs because of the hardware. I was always attracted to Jobs because he knew how to tell a story.
This is the best Steve Jobs interview EVER for storytellers
There was a time when Pixar for burning cash and NeXT computers was poor on sales.
Steve had burned up half of his wealth he earned from Apple and Steve never refused funding to the Animators at Pixar.
His only condition was “Making it Great”
And John Lasseter and his team did make it great.
The greatest of all time!!! Steve Jobs..
4:33 Dammit
BRO YOU NEARLY HAVE 500K SUBSCRIBERS
the pixar side of things really adds a whole other layer to steves image in my eyes
Just the number of times the duo get interrupted is unreal.
17:57 if looks could kill
I'd forgotten Jobs was with Pixar. The man was a real visionary. Say what you want about him, I can pay all my bills in 6 minutes without pencil, paper, calculators, or checkbook. Thanks Steve.
I figured it out as a teen without researching after I noticed all the Apple product placement in Pixar cartoons and seeing Steve Jobs in the credits.
Really wish Rose would stop butting in
Apparently he likes to hear himself speak lol
Charlie Rose is such a goofball but he actually got Steve Jobs to admit he changed his mind on something, good job 90s Charlie.
Charlie Rose is exactly where he should be... gone. John's expression at the end says it all. "Two geniuses sit down at a table with a clown..."
"Everyone gets everything he wants. I wanted a mission, and for my sins, they gave me one. Brought it up to me like room service. It was a real choice mission, and when it was over, I never wanted another." - Willard (Apocalypse Now) & Steve Jobs (Returning to Apple).
It was so obvious that Jobs was so ready to return to Apple. So obvious.
Gil Amelio made one of the best decisions bringing Jobs back. Yes, it cost him his job...but Amelio still saved the company by bringing Jobs back.
"it's coming back now" wow, classic.
We miss Steve Jobs even to this day. He didn't live to see all the new IPhones at Apple and find out about John Lasseter's sexual allegations toward female workers at Pixar. At least, Lasseter moved to Skydance Animation and lead to a uproar among Disney and Pixar fans.
Since Steve Jobs died in a sickness form of cancer, i guess the world is not ready for a cure for cancer despite millions of people dying of cancer every day. :(
I'm convinced that had Steve lived a little longer, he would also have been cancelled over ages-old allegations of "misbehavior." It has now been established that cancel culture can take anyone out for things he did even as a teenager. Yeah, they would have destroyed him, without a doubt.
6:14 Adam Newman should take notes about difference between technology and service company.
Totally agree with Steve Jobs opinion children learn a lott of animation films, about wrong right etc. for example Pocahotas an Indian girl dark-haired with a blond-haired young person. That goes already for years. Saskia van Houtert (sausage), engineer/office-manager.
As of this writing, Disney+Pixar has not released a single 2D animated feature film since The Princess and the Frog 12 years ago (2009). While I do believe Lassetter was sincere in his remark, it saddens me that Disney has lost all its 2D related ambition
I mean it’s just progress. 2D is old fashioned compared to what you can draw in 3D, not to mention the element of immersion it adds
@@jonanddy 2D isn't inherently more old fashioned than 3D, both should be able to co-exist and both have potential to evolve. As well, immersion is not what is most important in animation anyways, animation can be more abstract and less realistic.
I have no issue with 3D, and recently, 3D CG has been making huge strides after a while of stagnation (Spider-Verse in particularly really kicked 3D CG animation into overdrive and we've been seeing a lot of absolutely beautiful animated films following suit in recent years). But I think there's still untapped potential with 2D. I mean, we've seen 2D video games in recent years with some truly amazing art and visuals, but we never see that in American film anymore. And while Japan is pushing 2D animation forwards more, not everyone is into that art style and would prefer something more western.
“You got a pretty good eye for the future” oh boy he does as I’m
Watching it on an iPhone in 2023. #visionary
Jesus, even here, all this time later, there is no one with Steve's vision. No one like him at the moment!
Musk.
Elon musk.
Damn if I was older in that time,. i would have invested heavily on these guys
Me too. Same here. Even I was born back in 1996/1️⃣9️⃣9️⃣6️⃣ & would have turned 18 years old back in 2014/2️⃣0️⃣1️⃣4️⃣ which is the same exact year I finished High School🏫 when Pixar going way different back then, I would have still wanted to work for Pixar just to help make old Pixar Movies Great in different ways just because I still love Pixar. Regardless if it isn’t the exact same anymore like it used to be when it may become Greater again later on in Life. Who knows? Hoping it does so I can try to continue to still live my Dream like I wanted to do before till everything went downhill over the years. You never know what God may have plan Bigger for Pixar including Disney too as well with new better Movies to make it much Greater again like before if it’s even possible. Never give up on your Dreams no matter what happens in Life People.
Charlie rose just doesnt seem to get it. John and Steve try to explain that computers are just tools, but Charlie keeps trying to highlight the computer. He just sounds do dim witted.
It's Charlie's duty to ask questions for the viewers. Don't be such a fool.
dam after he was fired from CBS
@@swiftystatusconfirmed6711 He was fired from CBS. He's an idiot. So shut up
Genius guys! !!!
Charlie Rose interviews are often so... bizarre. It's like he badgers every guest until they give him the answer he's looking for, or until they reduce the complexity of their answer enough so that he can understand it - and only then does he appear to be satisfied. The problem is, most of the time I really want to hear the rest of the guest's answer before Rose interrupts and interjects with his reductive summary of what he *thinks* they just said, or were about to say (which is almost always, invariably, wrong, and then the guest has to correct and clarify, again with constant interruptions).
That’s an interviewer
Tbh I think this is where Steve lost his willingness to do interviews. If you think about it, the only interviews he really did after this were the All Things Digital conferences, starting in ~2005 onward.
The interviewer...
“Psh”
The dude is creepy
A dick
+
And now we know he was doing sexual harassment
The greatest ceo perhaps. Maybe greatest man perhaps.
Isn't it ALL about just having fun and not hurting anyone/anything, really?
Before Lasseter started to wear his trademark Hawaii shirts.
The host....ARROGANCE AND IGNORANCE...THIS IS THE REAL STEVE KNOWLEDGE AND HUMILITY everyone should acknowledge
I see the black turtle neck, blue jeans and NB sneakers was already there.
@13:20 "creative satisfaction"
Man, I love this interviewer LOL
Snow White was released in 1938, well really 1937 but it had it's wide release in 1938.
stephen ryan that’s crazy but did anybody ask?
This host is a terribly annoying guy. Doesn’t let them finish. C’mom they are not politicians dude.
Couldnt agree more, what a f’n tool
You need hard hitting journalism to get to the bottom of Toy Story. A story about murder, deceit and betrayal... and all the covert things that happen when the Nanny Cam is off
Well he his reiterating his questions because he wants to get the clear picture of what Pixar does that is revolutionary and how Toy Story came to be the success that it is and also if you think of the time this interview was talking place this new medium of computer animation is so unknown and the world is trying to figure out what in the heck is this new movie studio that rocked up with this new look, and he wants to know who is John Lasseter and who is Steve Jobs as well as helping the world figure out the process of computer and hand drawn animation and how it is different to live action.
yeah.. so annoying.. like drunker
I was surprised to see “Steve Jobs: CEO of Pixar”.
Then He Became The CEO Of Apple
He was “CEO” because he owned the most shares, Bob Iger had to buy Pixar from Steve for the Disney partnership
This is more like the interviewer interviewing himself
Best damn line of the interview : 20:39- I laughed so hard.
@20:40 Charlie: "Am I gonna come back to interview you in 5 years and find out you're in some other business?"
Steve: [smiles]
This was 1996. Steve returned to Apple in 1997.
5 years later, on 2001, Apple released Ipod that revolutionized music consumption.
@@42_comes_after_the_joke The iMac stanched Apple's bleeding, and created a new industrial design paradigm that swept across new products, but it was the iPod that turned Apple into a profit-making machine. Look at a chart of Apple's stock price over time, and you see the price take off like a rocket starting in about 2003-2004. The new, mature Jobs who came back to Apple was far different from the brat who exited Apple (he was NOT fired!) in 1985.
That would be a great interview
John was Woody and Steve was Buzz. Awesome 🙂
Yeah right, like Steve Jobs would ever return to Apple 😂
Steve in Apple and Steve not in Apple are two completely different personalities.
He apparated in to create Apple and make it ubiquitous. In 2011, his job done and he apparated out.
Jobs was clearly annoyed by Charlie Rose
Nah I think there was a mutual respect in the end. Not everyone can actually speak over Steve Jobs. I think he enjoyed the challenge. Charlie Rose stood his ground.
@@adaml.5355 You can both respect and be annoyed by someone.
Animation by computers is perhaps more fun at least I had more fun by illustrating with ILLUSTRATOR, thanks Steve and kind regards.
Man the 90’s really was the last decade of unbridled creativity and really was a Renaissance age.
And the very tech you used to make this comment doesn't allow for even more unbridled and unbeholdened creativity?
@@earlmcmanus194 Not as much as it was back then where it was passion first, money second.
"Do you use the internet?" lol
The interviewer really interested on money. He really think a lot of it.
10:15 is a mind blowing answer as it relates to the higher “hit rate”.
This interviewing guy really boils my blood
Wow ... "I used to stay ... until someone comes to kick me out" ...
Now known truth is that Steve even went back in ... ;-)
great interview...what is John doing these days?
Look at John when the interviewer is speaking to Steve. John knows any wrong gesture and he's in trouble. That's Steve for you.
That’s really unfair and this is just a baseless opinion of yours. I wonder what you’d think if they said that bad remark about yourself. I’m sure you wouldn’t like it, mainly if you knew they know nothing about you even though they think they do.
20:58 That look! X-D
People who say Charlie Rose is rude or arrogant need to understand he was known as a critical interviewer. He may be impolite by interrupting, but he asks "why" and reiterates to cut through the fat. Also John talked like a politician here with plenty of filler nonsense to cut through.
15:40, Steve Jobs wrong, Snow White was released in 1937 not 1928... also the main competitor was the next year 1938 with Gulliver's Travels. Source wikipedia