Economy And Stations in X4: Kingdom End

[@theunkownbanana1823]

Cptn Collins: "This presents an exciting opportunity for profits.
Every Teladi: "PROFITSSSSS!?"

[@moyako1802]

"The Teladi Company welcomes you, friend, aboard. Great proftissss to you"

[@terry426]

I was hoping, with the focus on water, the Boron would at least have their own water fab.

[@golum247]

I don't know about you guys, but that soundtrack sounds amazing.

[@WonderDuckie]

The interior of that fabrication bay reminded me of the inside of the alien ship in the original Independence Day movie.

[@dahkteromar749]

Same here

[@unclemestor]

I was never excited by the Boron in X3 (other than their incredible sector music) but every time I see the beautiful ship designs in Kingdom End I really want to try them out. Can't wait to dig into this expansion!

[@nou8257]

plus they seem to be the carrier masters and utility with their ion weapons debuffs

[@-drey]

I think one aesthetic workaround for the tech modules is to have them bundled as a wing of the station separated from the boron style modules and only connected by one bridge.

[@Mondfischli]

...or hide them behind solar panels 😁

[@aindoria]

@@Mondfischli use borons as solar panels.

[@ethanpetrea6164]

i like that they are intentionally leaving a role for the player to fill, one that drives you interacting with the overall metagame and gets people involved in the coolest parts of the game. you dont really get to enjoy the fleet mechanics until you figure out station building to start printing money

[@Dark_Lord_Mr_B]

I have a feeling that the aesthetic parts may be resolved in a future update. I recall that Egosoft is planning on keeping X4 going for a fair bit longer so if there are a few more DLCs coming, the free updates could address a few of these. We also still have Terracorp to make a return and there are a few more gates to reconnect to. If I remember correctly, the scientific faction that's between the Terrans and the Antigone has at least one inactive jump gate and that could be a good spot to put Terracorp. It would be interesting to see if they resume the war between the Argon and Terran there or it could be an awesome chance for an end-game mogul to take over a struggling Terracorp. I'd make it so that the core sector for them is all they have and there are only derelict stations and ships in the sectors between. The player would then have to rebuild and then potentially go to war with the Terrans themselves in order to expand. I've only just gotten the new DLC so it will be interesting to see how it goes.

[@Mikalent]

Two things I would REALLY love to see them add or expand upon that would make X4 a bit more "sandboxy(?)" Would be expanded faction diplomacy, and expanded empire building.
Right now, the game starts with 2 ongoing wars, the ever present Xenon Wars, and the Paranid civil war/Holy Order-Argon war. With the Kha'ak raids, those are the only things taking resources out of the game. You have the ability to start the Terran-Argon war, the Split Civil War, and add Duke's to the Paranid Civil War, or you can choose to end the Paranid Civil War/Holy Order-Argon war. So it means by mid game, you could potentially have only the Xenon Wars and Kha'ak raids, or if you went full psycho, you could have 2 minor wars, and the Paranid Civil War with Duke (the Terran-Argon war tends to be short lived, Terrans get pushed back to Sol and sit there, Argon never seem to push into Sol, and Split Civil war is a stomp either way depending if the Patriarchy holds their only resource sector or not. If they do, Curbs get stomped, if they lose it to the Xenon (more common) the Patriarchy gets stomped).
Having a way for other races to start trade wars, more common/larger raids, or even occasional border skirmishes would add a lot to the universe. You could even scale it based on border adjacency and the races aggression from lore, IE conflicts with the Split are more common but tend to be lower intensity raids, Teladi physical conflicts outside of trade wars and embargoes being significantly rarer, Terrans being highly territorial of the Sol Sector and sectors immediately adjacent to Sol, etc.
Just a way for the player to capitalize on the economy and these small battles.
The other would be expanded player empire building. Outright owning sectors right now doesn't do much for the player, in fact, because the AI will actively avoid patrolling sectors you own, owning a sector yourself actually makes you more vulnerable to pirates and the Kha'ak than you otherwise would be. Add in that your empire/corporation's only way to interact with another faction is to declare war, something that can not be undone once you do it, it is really lackluster.
A DLC storyline that has you actually formally establish your Company, then alter it's character and reputation through a series of exclusive missions similar to the Boron's "Royal Heralds" storyline. Chosing smuggling missions will earn your corporation a reputation of being low life smugglers, able to get anything to a client, but more at risk of police scans, would lock you from missions where your corporation would sell policing/sector patrol services. Taking contracts for station/ship building would lean your corporation towards being an industrial Juggernaut, but slowly reduce your reputation as a Mercenary company, ect.

[@Dark_Lord_Mr_B]

@@Mikalent That would be interesting. I can see the potential for factions to demand sectors back or for wheeling and dealing to go on in order to get concessions in a political or economic sense for the faction of your choice.
I'd also bring back the stock market mechanic but limit it to maybe the Teladi only and maaaaaaybe the Argon. It should be made so that returns are dependent on how the "companies" do or even each sector. We could also register our own faction on there to gather capital for larger projects. That part could be a late mid to early end-game mechanic though so that we don't inadvertently make ourselves into a god mode faction.

[@Schwarzpferd]

I find it interesting that prior to knowing about this DLC I had taken over Heretics end and worked to build up massive water refineries in Wretched skies and Family Kritt. Now to see your video I feel like I am going to be in a great position when I can actually have time to try out this dlc.

[@achong007]

The problem I started noticing is that all factories that build any thing is a sub component of ships and only ships. There is no other markets except for building ships and station.
There needs to be comsumer goods and other stuff everyone needs. Yea, illegal to sell food and water??? How does anyone eat? There got to be other goods X4 can buy and sell.
Example would be consumer good from argon, or Talitie (can't spell) can be sold at other station that is not related. I don't know but not everything in the ecomony needs to revolve around ship building and illegal stuff.

[@CLONE_IX]

Love the jab at Star Citizen. :D
Thanks for the starter guide!

[@Esgaro]

Looks really pretty. I am all ready to start a new game and dive into it. As soon as it comes out, Boron playthrough go!

[@ZlothZloth]

Maybe not "as soon as"....

[@zsheets7483]

The main question I'd have is if Egosoft has fixed mining revenue or if they still hate their players earning credits.

[@EricLidiak]

I hope they have fixed

[@Dragongard]

to be honest its also in their history why some of the parts look like boron, its even implemented in the ships itselfs so i am fine with that. It was also like this since x1, they always were reliant on argon technology. Without argons, they would still be turtled by the splits without any chance to push back, i really like they used this bit of history of this two races to make borons work in x4

[@CaptainCollinsClips]

It will be a interesting DLC to play

[@lionserra9161]

Ahh nice, economy vid is here :DDD

[@Vracuon]

I'm slighly disappointed that some modules have the vanilla look and that traders are also vanilla and I hope a new model will be used in a future updated. Other than that though, this DLC looks amazing! It will probably be the best one so far

[@MagiconIce]

I agree, I also found it always strange that all the Factions in Commonwealth Space, even those officially not part of it like SCA, HOP and the two Split Factions, use the same Docking Module (except Teladis and their Huge Trade Stations).
I'm glad they went away from that approach with the Terrans and now the Boron too and I hope they rework the docking modules, traders and environments, that are general, so they fit the asthetics of their overall faction.
Like the Paranid, who revere the number 3 and everything, that is somehow divisible by 3, shouldn't have 10 docking slots but 9 for S ships and their Docking Module should be something, that screams "Holy Trigonometry" at you immediately when you see it.
Teladi Docking Modules could be orientated around their dome style of station modules, like they'd look similar to Terran S/M-Docking Modules, but with a Teladi Touch, looking swamp like on the inside with the fauna present and immediately making clear, that this is a Teladi Station.
It is easy to ask but also easy to forget that this design stuff is a huge amount of work, so it will take some time, but I'd find it really cool if they maybe squeeze in one older race specific redesign once ina while with this or that new expansion coming, like they e.g. reworked the Paranid Capital Ships.

[@amocv]

Very good video. Beautiful like Borons (but i don´t like how they are sound)

[@hosseinjavanmard4544]

Looks amazing!

[@umahorseman]

Aight. Imma build a mega water factory at heretics end now. Lol

[@MagiconIce]

I find it strange that the Boron didn't explore automated solutions. Although clearly not as efficient to operate without any workers, better than having no presence and resource gain in space at all.

[@MagiconIce]

PS: I also find it lacking that Boron Space Stations, instead of having a Water Environment where you would float around in, making them feel at home (Boron could traverse in it without a for them constraining suit, Non-Boron would require a diving suit), the Boron instead travel around in "Water suits" and the other races get to walk around freely within the Boron Stations.
Usually a race designs space stations to fit first and foremost their daily needs, not the daily needs of other races.

[@FastDuDeJiunn]

a lot to look forward to if i can learn this game lol. i am progressing...... slowly.

[@Iluvantir]

The fun thing about what Egosoft didn't do (make each race utterly unique looking - with certain production modules being the same across the Commonwealth races) Modders! Enter the Modders! I bet that - not to long to wait - for there to be Split and Boron and Paranid, etc, versions of these "shared modules". Argon will likely remain as is, assuming that they are the ones who made them look that way in the first place. Just need to create four different versions of all "shared modules" for the other four races.
Terrans, of course... well, we're the odd ones here having everything be completely unique across the board. (and yes - my main char is always Terran. I do play all other "starts", to keep things fresh, or to change up my playstyle, etc - but my main is a Terran and he's the "Captain Kirk" of the X Universe, helping end wars, beat the Xenon, the ultimate goodie-two-shoes)

[@Streifer]

ill play this next month... waiting for mods to get updated lol

[@Yama_1291]

Another fantastic video, thank you!

[@moyako1802]

I've been playing X4 since its release, but for some reason in every playthrough I pick "young gun".
I'll start a new one today with Kingdom End and I'll choose the new starting options.
What's the difference between "sandbox" start (young gun) vs "guided" start?

[@Bossman-pg8kk]

Guided starts basicly throw you into the mission set you pick. So if you picked a Terran one you would immediately start the Terran missions. They may even have a unique mission to start with depending on the faction.

[@niall2236]

so hyped for this!

[@SalvatoreEscoti]

I am producing Energy cells at my headquarter. But how do I set the selling price for them

[@steemlenn8797]

If you do a BOron start, are teh Boron sectors connected to the rest from start is there a story you have to do first?

[@chilliewhk]

They are connected. There are some missions that help show the way as well.

[@doubleitp]

hi guys/gals, just looking to get into X4, where should I download it from? Steam or GoG? Thank you.

[@jeanpagette5019]

Man taking shot at SC.

[@Erduk]

Hm... The weapons of the M and S class ships have been the most interesting thing to me. It's a totally different game for Boron ships. I can't just mass one type of weapon. The damage types forces you to have two different types of weapons.

[@alejandrotaudil3689]

Thanks Captain!

[@masterofthedeathwing2839]

recently bought this game, by 18 hours, the xenon were pouring into zyarth space, theres battleships, I and Ks in most split systems, and the split arent fighting back. by hour 30 im in command of a split rattlesnake, and ive killed most of the isolated battleships, and started to push back. by day 2 and 3 hours, its looking like that scene in the docks at zion city in the matrix 3, the bit where the massive assed swarm breaks through into the docks. its absolutely wild.
ive got 2 rattlesnakes now. i dont trust the AI pilot to fly it. so i switch between the two of them, when i take enough damage to warrant repairs. ive killed maybe 30 battleships now. 10 defence stations, and they are just increasing in intensity. is this normal?

[@Jacknic12]

Funnily enough? Yes. This can happen.

[@XxKidnoffxX]

The patch 6.0 fixes this, making zyarth more agressive with better economy. In my current game, started in 5.0, Zyarth are still there without problem and I didnt help them at all. But the last patch fix this

[@masterofthedeathwing2839]

@@Jacknic12 lol, when i look up "xenon rampage" people are saying "day 18 and the xenon have started getting a bit uppity" im like day 18, lol try day 1

[@masterofthedeathwing2839]

@@XxKidnoffxX i saved Zyarth, 3 literal days of constant fighting. and there are no xenon in zyarth space.
my save is 3 days 18 hours. i discovered the split at 18 hours, they had already lost 2 sectors, and were under threat of losing 2-3 more with massive xenon forces in all split systems, including several Ks and Is.
the split havent taken back their 2 lost systems yet, but they are cleansed of xenon and being patrolled by my 4 rattlesnakes.
i dont know what to do now lmao its the first time its been quiet since i discovered the split

[@XxKidnoffxX]

@@masterofthedeathwing2839 maybe you can buy every blueprint of split and destroy them and become the real split yourself and keep defending your sectors... My goal is to do that, to terrans

[@cmdrgogen3203]

Are they at war with any other factions by default?

[@Mondfischli]

... we'll know in 3 hours I guess...
Traditionally that would be the Split 🤔

[@shaunwilson3059]

unlikely a full scale war due to their isolation, but likely a negative rep with split

[@ZlothZloth]

Nope. Well, the Kha'ak and Xenon, obviously, and probably the Yaki. The Zyart Split and Terrans are at -15, which is pretty typical. It seems like the Split have forgotten the old rivalries, but the Argon have forgotten the old alliance, too.

[@Mondfischli]

@@ZlothZloth ...ZYA are gone in my game, let's see what the new patriarchy (RHA) thinks about the fish sticks 🤔

[@cdgonepotatoes4219]

I don't see the addition as very organic mostly because the amount of care taken in creating the Boron ships and parts is leaps and bounds superior to the rest of the game, Egosoft improved over the years and it shows in a sort of jarring way when you move between interiors and exteriors, Boron Space and "normal" Space.
At least for the Borons, they could've made new assets for say the transporter, the trader station and the workshop/ship vendor, the production modules it's perfectly fine as they are.

[@Loadalama]

Hey, short question, what mod are you using to takeover npc stations? at 4:35 I am searching for a mod like this for a long time

[@repatomonor21]

That's not a mod, that's a developer/beta tester build of the game that has a few cheats in the game by default. However, the Cheat mod has quite a similar function, just with a different user interface.

[@Loadalama]

@@repatomonor21 So I guess there is no way to activate those cheats in a regular game?

[@repatomonor21]

@@Loadalama No, but as I told you, the Cheat menu mod is really awesome, and is more feature packed.

[@Loadalama]

@@repatomonor21 The cheat menu does not offer to gift or takeover npc stations to factions.

[@repatomonor21]

@@Loadalama Yes it does, it's just not a matter of a single click.

[@jcataclisma]

And a GOG link for more stuff as well: NICE!!

[@1110RT]

bought

[@Kalknight382]

nice job on the video.

[@EricLidiak]

I'll just use the teladi and normal factory parts anyway

[@Scheldon]

Soon 🎉

[@r4plez]

Quindoms End

[@soulhunter8567]

I will sart a brand new game! 😘

[@SuperLordPedro]

I usually start a new game for the updates 😊

[@steemlenn8797]

@@SuperLordPedro And never "finish" the old ones, because with every DLC...right? 😆

[@ERINNERNMUSSICHMICH]

I have to start a new game anyway due to the old save getting too big (single digit fps yay), good timing 😂

[@tylerstewart3181]

Finally, Grand Admiral Borawn can establish the Galatic Boron Empire.

[@Bialy837]

Where is great terran female spacesuits?

[@christophergill3140]

sitting here in Canada its 738 am on the 12 of April wwwhhhaaaaaa chopping at the bit with money loaded in my steam and still have 3 hours till it un locked this is almost torcher

[@emperorofmankind779]

just 3h to release :D

[@ReinisIkass]

Ooh, pretty. The Borons might finally get me to stop pirating and take the build/trade part of the game more seriously. Maybe. :)

[@dbrowdy]

I was thinking pirating would be pretty obnoxious in Boron space. With huge shields and small hull, it will be hard to drop their shields and hard to keep from blowing them up before they surrender. And for L/XL ships, those huge shields mean VERY long waits for boarding without droppng their shields.

[@Mikalent]

Just released for me, but I have work...

[@MrVeryfrost]

Is it hard to get into the game without previous X4 experience? (used to play x3)

[@XxKidnoffxX]

You really think you need to already played X4 to play X4?

[@worldpeace1822]

It’s different but not any harder. I’d say it’s actually easier but to get to know all the tricks will take time.

[@bobbobertson9325]

@Kidnoff I am a bit confused as well. To answer OP's question to the best of my understanding, no, you do not need to have played base X4 to enjoy most of the content for Kingdom's End. There are fun missions that introduce you to the ideas of large-scale combat and hazardous sectors. Without saying more, the DLC missions also prompt the player to explore the universe more widely.

[@robpownall9116]

If someone was looking for a big space adventure, would you recommend this or Star Citizen?

[@IIBuxy]

Very different games, if you want SP, this. SC won't offer any of the station building, etc, at least not aaaaany time soon. So I'd say X4

[@dbrowdy]

Star Citizen is garbage. Pretty much any other space game is better. X4, Elite Dangerous, Everspace 2, etc. Even No Man's Sky!

[@robpownall9116]

@@IIBuxy I think you're right, x4 does seem the way to go. I need something to fill the void when I've finished everspace 2

[@robpownall9116]

@@dbrowdy I got bored with Elite Dangerous, didn't know No Mans Sky offered HOTAS support

[@juan-pierreleroux8323]

Yeah different games, SC being online is action and intrigue. Beautiful landscapes and ships. X4 scratches that base building economic empire itch but i find myself jamming SC more for bunker FPS missions and bounty hunting. Had a few great organic PvP situations and Co-Op excitement in SC...X4 has the story obviously and quite special in its own way. Having both replaces ED easily, not logged on there in atleast a year now.

[@galeriematzohl6659]

i dont find a price anywhere. what do you think how much will it cost guys?

[@shaunwilson3059]

around 15 dollars/euros

[@shaunwilson3059]

releases in a few hours from now

[@galeriematzohl6659]

@@shaunwilson3059 cant wait buddy. :)

[@steemlenn8797]

@@shaunwilson3059 More likely 20€. Not that I really care. X4 was one 2 games in the last 10 or so years I preordered the season pass version. Because, unlike with e.g. Total War series, Egosoft will polish the bug ridden first release into something beautiful and one of a kind and they can really use every Euro. (They won't say it but I am pretty sure they were close to bankrupt before releasing the core game, which is why the player owned ship yards were still missing).
Just compare X4 with Star Citizen if you want to know how much mone you CAN use up for such a game ;)

[@SHOTbyGUN]

How did you get so much pretty in game footage :p ?

[@CaptainCollins]

Years of training and hours upon hours of recording. These 10 minutes are cut out of 10 hours of content

[@micro1715]

did they fix fleet?

[@dirtybeatfreak]

this was my main question too. I think they have mate, the is at least fixes and a new command in there :)

[@adamminister7123]

Speak for yourself. 🙂 I for one would love every station module and connector to have faction specific designs. It's one of my major gripes about the game.

[@73mpn]

agreed. I'm not saying it would be easy, but they should have different module skins for the factions that have been separated for extended periods of time. They might do the exact same function as the others, but there is no reason they should look exactly the same.

[@EricLidiak]

Hello Friends! Bring out the best BoFu

[@TENGILL]

I do not agree about the station parts not fitting with the Boron theme is fine.
If you are making a DLC for a new faction, you NEED to make new designs for them!
Not doing that is lazy and then asking money for it is real shady.
I do not know of any other game that has factions that did not make new stuff when they add a new one.

[@wiktorwektor123]

While it would be nice to have I would never call Egosoft lazy. If anything they showed multiple times they support their games for a very long time after release. Even X3 got free DLC 10 years after release and was updated in that period of time. What is lazy is making game, release buggy mess, take money, maybe few DLCs and 2 to 3 years later after abandon it. That not how Egosoft works but majority of lazy developers.

[@steemlenn8797]

Egosoft is a small company with a niche game. Unfortunately they can't afford everything they want to do. But they definitely try their best. It's like with the builder, until this version all races had exactly the same. Saved a lot fo ship design manpower for something that is merely nice to have but doesn't change anything in the game mechanics.

[@vazaruspaytonas7017]

Poor Argon architecture looks so dated now with all the DLC that have been released.

[@ClannerJake]

Content at me bro.

[@TheMasterdisaster14]

Id rather pay fair amounts of money for an optimized game that runs over 60fps than 5 dlc‘s with the same shitty and buggy performance/engine on rigs that are 5 years apart. So no. Egosoft is being greedy and not distributing resources in the right departments. -points for you cpt.

[@pissmyasslynch5325]

I just bought the dlc on steam 1 min ago😂

[@CadetSammons]

O7

[@MagnaSonic3000]

Maybe the Terrans being the ice man might make their stations more worth using, if they're trading with Borons.