Repeat Orders - How To Do Mining, Trading and Fighting - X4 Foundations - Captain Collins
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0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Basics
1:08 - Mining
7:49 - Trading
14:31 - Patrol / Attack Targets
20:36 - Bonus Tipp / Collect Drops
22:08 - Thank you! - เกม
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This has revolutionized my game play, thank you!
Love how you got your name as a Cap but then used an enlisted nco u.s.a.f style rank.
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You can also ensure your miners and traders (mule haulers) trade with you and only you, by using blacklists for the ships, and trade rules for the wares on the stations. that way the miners will only sell to the stations that belong to you and your mules will pick up and drop off only at your stations. From there you can create a central warehouse that sells to other factions.
Really good explanation. I just buy some mining ships because my auto trader don't bring enough money (he's not 3 star...). But I use The mimic option. I set 1 miner to mine and other miner to mimic him, and they both mine and sell independently. So, the reason I use the mimic and of course the commander fleet, it's because it cost less to assign 4 fighter to protect all the miner of a sector, than assign 4 fighter to each of them. I could assign 2 fighter to each, but they will be less powerful. If I have 10 miners in a sector, 9 gonna mimic the leader and they all mine independently and I can assign a lot of ships to protect the whole fleet instead of protecting each miner.
But I really like this repeat order thing, I'll try it right now ^^. It's just because I love creating fleet with my miner, it's easier to protect them.
ty, finally there is someone who can provide an actual guide to something. other tutorials are just pathetic crap with either no useable info at all or talking about tons of other stuff without ever hitting the topic
welcome to my channel, I guess :D
The repeat orders is a good system for a few miners but I found it required too much micromanagement with multiple miners as the resources deplete from the sphere. You can automate both mining and trading by building a mining hub and let the station manager to worry about that. A basic container and dock costs less than a million credits so price isn't a real issue when scaling the operations up.
mining station ends up costing you twice the miners in that you need collectors and then also miners to sell them. Making Sector Automine fleets means that all your miners mine AND sell. Using a blacklist on the leader of the fleet and having all the other ships in the fleet use mimic commander, you can have an automine fleet that supplies only your stations.
@@Erduk dude, that is genius. I need to try that.
@@Erduk What if the resources to be mined are in one sector, and the buyers are in another. That's the problem I'm running into. Cardinal's Redress has ore and all the HOP sectors around it are buying. I don't have a good way to mine the ore and get it to other sectors without either (1) using a station (inefficient like you say), or repeat orders (which is cumbersome to manage). Thoughts?
@@jamesmartin6535 Use advanced automine anchoring in cardinal redress and set the selling sector limit high enough for them to travel to hop sectors, set a fleet leader up and have everyone under him mimic the command.
Oh i was so looking forward to this since i saw you talking about it on stream. Cheers Cpt!
I don't know why they self destructed the perfectly good mining systems they had before. I'm using so many mining ships now. It takes hundreds of miners to supply yourself now.
Nividium, my miner flew around for ~10hrs to fill up his hold in Grand Exchange. F
Great tutorial, thanks for the tips on repeat orders. I did not know some of the things described in the vid. I have discovered that if you set a ship to collect drops on repeat, if that ship has at least one inventory item collected, you can right click it from the map and tell it to deposit inventory. It creates a loop where you don't have to check on it yourself and should it get destroyed you will only loose a tiny amount of inventory items. The rest will be in a storage unit in the lab in your HQ (left of the boron).
In my experience it does not ignore the other mine orders. Even if it is full it will fly to those other mine locations before going to sell. So not the worst, but it seems anytime you use different sell/mine orders it will still fly to them to try the order, fail that it can't, then go on. If you have multiple locations in sell it does as you expect. You can't do that for mine though.
Same, noticed that multiple mining locations adds quite a bit of wasted time to routing. With full cargo it will still hit all the other mining locations to fail its check before moving to selling. I switched all miners to just single locations, and seems to be filling up ok.
@Sanguine can you recommend any rich locations like that for mining sillicon? Especially near or in Sol? I have found supplying multiple computronic substrate factories to be a challenge, even with three dozen L miners :/
Getting Transport Tycoon Deluxe vibes from this one haha. Cheers for the advice! Was a little confused with the patrol orders - I was nervous they'd be fast travelling to the centre THEN checking! Cheers for clearing that up!
Made that sure BEFORE the video, had the same bad feeling about it :D
Thanks for your guide. Had not played for over a year and it really helped setting up my traders and miners!
Your welcome, glad you liked it :)
Thanks again Cap. I'm slowly getting through all your tutorial videos :)
Thank you for the information. A clear guide on how to get it set up and the options you can use. Thanks cap'n
bah god damnit, I never noticed the "quantity to keep" was in reference to how much cargo the ship was to maintain in its hold. I kept sliding that all the way to right assuming it was the amount to sell/transfer to the station. Couldnt figure out why my repeat orders kept toggling between buy and sell and not moving..... Great video. Thanks lol
You do great work. Wish you got more attention! Keep up the hard work and sharing the knowledge. You helped me learn x4 several times
Thank you :)
Great info! Thanks Captain!
Really great video, the combat patrol along with the collect all was really handy, thanks
Thank you and good you enjoy it :)
Awesome video. Thanks Captain
Thank you for this guide. Very Informative and helpful.
You're welcome!
Two years ago, this video was made, and I grabbed some useful information out of it.
really the best video to show the advantages of repeat orders. I was not aware how helpfull this command is.
If you want to know more about commands, this could help too: th-cam.com/video/EUkTwR-08xo/w-d-xo.html
@@CaptainCollins I already saw that. But thx anyway 😉
very very informative Cap.... Thanks
Another awesome post, Captain! Thank you for this great tips video! Hope you and all your family & friends have an awesome Easter Sunday and Week ahead!
Thank you very much :)
Good and informative guide. Thanks sir 👌🏻
Good guide. Thanks to you!
Awesome video, thank you.
Thanks for the clarification cap!
Would be very nice if we could save and load repeat orders.
Amazing Tutorials, Danke =)
:) bitte
I needed it!!!
real useful info. ty
good explanation, thx cap
I just started with V4.0 and COH. I was wondering how to use repeat orders. What perfect timing! I am using it while my pilots level up to autotrade. Thanks!
Great video thank you!
Thisis awesome. I can't wait to set this up for my ships.
Thank you!! I love this game, perhaps too much, 4 hours sleep in a daz aint exactlz sufficient :D
Thanks for the video and info I didn't know about that thanks
Thank you, sir!
Great video thanks
I just recently came back to X4. Last I played was v2.5 or so. I really like the repeat order system.
Very good guide
I am still sad you can’t make a trading fleet with repeat order, but I think it would surpass the auto trading then. But ES could give us a group function to make the UI sorted. That would reduce the overfloating the UI with unassigned ships.
Brilliant.
super helpful
I got over 30m (1000 items) with in only few hours by repeating collect drops order XD.
Where do you go to sell the dropped items you pick up?
@@ChrisRedheart Every sectors that has a gate connect to Xenon sector will do.
i love this game. playing spread sheets with visuals.
Very helpful capitan
Vielen Dank!
Captain, would you perhaps be so kind to create a playlist with your X4 Foundations guide, tips and how to videos. It would make it much easier to find them amongst all the videos😀
Been playing X4 again and your videos have been very helpful. Thanks! Quick question on collecting drops, do you need to add something to the orders to drop off the collected items or does the ship do that itself? I am thinking more of the personal inventory items but I guess that would apply if it picks up wares as well. Again, thanks!
You need to ask them, to hand over the inventory. Not 100% sure how it's phrased atm
I rage quit my last X4 Game because of a stupid death, but now I really want to try that repeat orders thing ! Thanks Captain ! YAY ! :D
Oh by the way there is now only 2 hours difference between your time and my time now ! Yay ! xD
That's great :) Glad I could bring you back some joy :P
the repeat orders really helps with farming SETA components
On buy and sell you can add multiple locations which allows it to check for the best buy or sell price between all the locations rather than just going to the next step, you can add as many locations that buy or sell the good as you like. I felt like doing this worked even better than advanced auto trading, just takes time to set up. I personally use this method all the time now. I recently updated some of my pilots to advanced auto trade, but they make less money doing this now.
Collins, du bist der König. Heute Abend werde ich direkt einmal ausprobieren, ob ich damit irgendwie mein Baulager versorgen kann.
Useful but what the game really needs is some sort of For/Next Structure. If Agron Warf needs 7K Hull Parts and my Freighter can provide 1K per trip I don't want to micro each trip and I don't need to set up an endless loop. We need some way of saying repeat orders X# of times.
I like this idea!
Damn I didn't see you could set sectors themselves for the sell orders. That will clean up my lists alot. Ty for the info.
Useful, right? :)
Wow. How did I not know about you before! Nice video. Thanks. I also wish I could speak a second language as good as you speak english!
Hi :) Start talking and don't care about how bad it is at the start :D
Hi Captain,
Thks a lot for this one ! I didn't already check it :)
That's a good thing adding this command reapeat order :)
_Waric
Brilliant boy
Great video, is there any way to have a mining ship do cargo runs from one station to another. I am thinking of having a small station in the Oort belt just with a ton of storage space and a lot of miners then have a few of the larger miners acting as a cargo hauler to a station in the Asteroid belt?
I found it amusing that your trader was flying a DHL tagged ship. (dhl is a shipping company here in the usa)
Just started this last night so much to sink my teeth into. 😬 few hundred hours in x3tc so high expectations!
How you finding it 1 week later after this comment?
@@PitchBlackTales still at it about 70hours in i think ha!
Yeah the game is awesome bit frustrating sometimes but its only because im still understanding. Got some miners got some traders. Stations coming along nicely really enjoyed it so far!
That sounds like serious progress :) Keep on ;)
For the trading loop problem with 100 % capacity, set the buy amount of the buy orders to 0, set all loop parts and afterwards change the buy amount back to 100%
Great video, thanks. Not played the game for ages, since before any of the DLCs, now thinking getting the last one (already have first 2). Anyway, question. for the trader etc, when Selling you suggest selecting each 1 jump away to try and sell, then select each 2 jumps away etc. does the ship HAVE to fly to each one to check the price? what about if they are no satellites? or doesn't it matter for the AI ships I own, do they just "know" the prices, even if it was 5 sectors away.
Also if a ship picks a buy to go buy X for Y amount, and it's 3 sectors away, by the time he gets there an NPC could have bought a load and dropped the price, so while my ship is flying for 3 sectors, is it check the price ever x minutes on route, and if it's not acceptable price, move onto the next repeat order to buy from another area?
Hey there, i just got into the game last week having a blast playing it and now i have bought a total of 13 miners ship, but i want to ask is it possible to assign behaviour to a group of ships ? or multiple ships that has been selected ? that is not an attack order but for trading or mining.
Question about repeat orders and fleets:
If you give a repeat order to a mining fleet. Will they all do the same (so, all try spot 1, then spot 2,...) or will the system check fpr each individual and thus split the group
Question: Is there a limit to the amount of orders a single station can handle? I've got a big mining operation at my HQ, and i have ships flying buy/sell orders to a big terran complex to feed it minerals, but most of the ships are in a constant loop of buy/sell that keeps skipping back and forth. This issue does not affect other stations/ships doing the same repeat orders.
I just read in the forum today, that a station can handle up to 250 ships.
Commander, any idea what the Sync Point is for? I see it under my Sell order. It creates the Dock, and Dock and Wait,.. but just below that is a selection I can make for Sync Order. Any ideas?
It's to allow you to, as the name says, synchronise 2 ship orders to happen at the same time - eg say you have multiple cargo haulers if you have sync orders on a move command they will all move at the same time - like a convoy rather than feeding peacemeal into a pirate infested system 1 at a time
Hi Cap. I'm just wandering on something annoying, i keep getting acquire station engineers but unable to hire any NPC for the position.
Had you come across these mission and how did you/i do acquire a station engineer. (This is unlike any of the earlier X series where we had specialist crews.)
omg i never thought on this. i'm tired of constantly check and realize that my miners are stuck because minimum price is under the station max price
Hello Sir! I have a question as an X beginner. Is there a way to do a 'galaxy wide trade'? I dream of building up a merchant fleet that buys and sells all over the galaxy.
I know there once was, back in 2018, an 'auto trade (galaxy)' option. What happened to it and what would be the equivalent of it now? Distribute wares?
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Don't you need to set satelites /advanced satelites to check prices for orders?
I cant seem to make the option "Sell to" pop up. i have the miner selected, repeat orders enabled, but right clicking the station only says trade not "Sell" any ideas?
I wish I saw this video 900 in-game hours ago.
Well, at least you found it now 🙂👍
My ship with repeat orders refuse to buy energy cells from my factory, tried adusting min price and there enough cells in storage. In the end I had to manually collect and sell the cells
Can it work with patrols who need missiles because it would be amazing to go resupply every 10 min without another vessel like with M ships
If you add a supply ship to the fleet? Should work that way.
i just started playing today and setting 'automine sector' automatically changed the deafault behaviour and i just let him go. is that fine? all these orders in the video are optional right? or will my guy fill up minig then just sit there doing nothig because i didnt set a sell location lol
can repeat order work on mimic behavior for fleet
does having the AI collect drops actually work? doesn't seem to work sometimes, they will collect stuff from asteroid drops and it wont appear in player inventory
@@KunjioYosai Just discovered the " Deposit inventory" and "Drop Inventory" when you right click the ship. Thx!
Can you do a video on fleet management and formations?
th-cam.com/video/ZDvYg8uA0vc/w-d-xo.html
So if traveling between 2 points on a patrol route they are attacked, will they defend themselves or just plough on to the nest point of the patrol?
I think the global orders will decide what they do.
Maybe have one leader traveling around in a repeat order and the fighters are assigned as Intercept.
I think this may work for Khaak and fighter defence.
Theoretically the fighter should intercept all S/M in the leaders radar range
I'm new to X4: I just tried to set up a trade chain between solar power plants in Brennan Triumph and Oort's Cloud using your guide: I set the buy price to 17 in Brennan Triumph and the sell price to 19 in Oort's Cloud. I clealy see that Energy Cells are sold at 15-16 and that stations in Oort's Cloud would buy at 19-20, but my two Baldrics are stuck in a loop where they continously check order 1 and 2 without doing nothing with their cargo empty, have I done something wrong in setting the "Repeat order" command?
There are so many things that would be needed to check, can't tell from that. Maybe you come in discord and also provide screenshots?
@@CaptainCollins sure, nice idea! I'll join and post some screenshot, as soon as I can get to the pc after work :)
Hi There,
There is one thing in the trading orders that is bad. or i dont understand.
I have build an trading hub where i fly my wares into for building in the sektor.
but i must have money in the hub! when i have no money, ore not enough money, my trader will drop not all of his cargo. that is littel bit frustrading. i must repead up to 10 times the order because he sells 10% of the cargo. thats a point what is confusing me. i mean its my station. i dont pay money for the wares.
but i dont have enough money to give the station what they want (its round about 120mil credits and that i dont have!)
is that an bug= or have i make something wrong?
sorry for my english. its not very good :)
Okay but what if I did all the steps explained in miner and yet it doesn't work for me, It mines as normal and when cargo is full it just docks sells and tells me I need to give the order to allow it to undock which defeats the whole point of repeat orders function, unless i'm doing somthing wrong here I have no clue if it's just a bug or it just doesn't work
coudl you do another dedicated video on aux-ships, and missles, etc. . i know you did a longer video, but i do mean a more guidy-format like this.
Auxilliaries and Missle-re-supply are topic that gets asked constantly.
@Captain Collins Hey captain want to ask if u make video about how do you have setuped mining for station because im experiencing that my miners only supply sillicon even if the storage on station is full but the ore storage is always low and miners doesnt want to mine anything else.
In version 4.00 it should be way better than before. Are you on the latest version?
@@CaptainCollins yeah im on the 4.00 version
It's a bit strange. At 4:51 you say that the miner will ignore 2+3 if it is already full. But in my game the miner proceeds to those steps, but concludes that the cargo hull is full and can't do it. From what you are saying, i would expect the ship to skip 2+3 entirely since it is already full at step 1😕
For some reason my repeat order miners will continue to fly to each mining area regardless of if its full or not. plez halp.
repeat orders don't grant experience to the pilot right?
No idea what grants pilots experience... after hundreds of hours I can say: I don't care :)
New guy here with a new guy question. The repeat orders command is not available to me. What needs to be done to unlock it?
Nothing. Maybe you search at the wrong spot. It's a "Default Behavior" which needs to be selected first and then you give orders which are going to be repeated
Your ship needs to have at least 1 star before that advanced menu shows up.
This guide seems to be outdated now. The Repeat Orders function may have changed over hte last 2 years.
If I give my miner Repeat Order, and then give it multiple mining orders, it will fly to that spot even if it's full, chill out for a few minutes, then go to the next mining place. The orders are not skipped if the miner is full.
I dont even have the free mining option or anything else like that. It wont even let me redock with my station so the miner can unload its cargo.
Are you having 1) a M dock 2) the right storage 3) an enough star pilot?
@@CaptainCollins Its just 1 S miner atm. I just done the first missions for that fish guy in the tank and got the station. I know its nothing efficient, just something more of a test run. I got the basic dock and 1 storage unit on the station.
The only problem for Large miners is that it does not do as the guide suggests. Its 1st goes to a location where is shoud mine, then if full it does not skip all the other locations but goes to the next one.. then the next one.. then after it visits all the mining sites it moves to sales. This is sad =(
You can do repeat orders sector based as well, I think it´s better
You can you can right click the sector and select buy from and sell to and it will buy from stations in that sector of the good you want as well as sell to any station.
@@malkano8621 This is technically correct. In my testing I noticed that a buy/sell order will only check one station every time the loop encounters this sector. If this one random station doesn't have the goods, the loops continues.
This can make it extremely slow as an autotrader alternative.
@@katorone1841 that’s why I don’t do it that way I usually do station to station repeat orders . Now the selling part can be a good thing for sector though because some places are buying that good.
@@malkano8621 I use it for miners so it works great, also the each individual order can have several sectors and or stations, don't know the difference between several orders or one order with several targets
@@katorone1841 I use it for miners so it works great, also the each individual order can have several sectors and or stations, don't know the difference between several orders or one order with several targets
Well ! Interesting and informative, thank you.
Yet, what an over complicated, micromanaged, absurdly long winded set off instructions to go mining. Seems they want to make it as complicated as they can. And if it were not for excellent videos like this, no one will know how to figure it all out.
I just set a miner to a station, and let the manager send it off to where ever ! It works. And theirs no fussing about with all those confusing orders !
I agree that it is a lot but i wouldnt say complicated. Mine there, sell there, buy here, sell there, its pretty straight forward
great explanation.
i struggle so much with this station commanders.
and i watched all your videos and read alot of tips, but they are really stupid.
repeat orders is alot of micromanagement.
but who cares, we need a station with resources. :)
Vielen Dank
nettes video bei gamestar. :)
dose repeat orders work with mimic commanders orders?
Answer in here: th-cam.com/video/hhn_COZESQI/w-d-xo.html
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You don't need to buy from your station there is an order to transfer wares directly
But you can't use that for "repeat orders". Or do want to ship your energy cells from mercury manually every time? ;)
@@CaptainCollins Yeah, I paused the video to look for transfer - kinda surprising it isn't there.
Been playing since x2, totally get the idea of x games.
Every feature adds content. And obviously removing these content reduces it.
But damn mods save this franchise. There's a level of interest a person can handle. X games are extreme and should stay that way.
But modders and or programs need to add levels of difficulty, to remove complexity.
Its missing player base because of complexity, and in some other games lack of.