0:00 How we got the Baldwin Motion Camaro 0:40 The Camaro on Dream Car Garage (2000) 1:30 Why this car is so unique 2:13 Specs & getting ready to drive 3:21 Driving the Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro 6:17 Drag racing the LS-7 Camaro vs. LS-6 Chevelle 7:00 Do you need a Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro?
@@ckelley63 I’m pretty sure the 69 Corvette could be ordered with it. I had a buddy that bought a crate motor LS7 and dropped it in his street/drag Camaro bone stock...ran like a raped ape. 12.5 compression but you could get 99 octane at the pumps back then. I believe it was also a solid lifter cam...whatever it was it had a wicked idle.
@@ckelley63 In the description it states that the invoice date for the car was July of 1970, so the LS7 would have been available, if you had the connections which of course Baldwin did.
Also the LS7's that Amityville Chevy supplied were Dynoed at 660hp with 12.5 slugs and the L88 cam .560 over .600. Some guys got it with the ZL1 cam. Those are big gears Joel usually liked the 4.56's Or even the special Rockwell 4.10's. You would love the story when Joel raced a Hemi Cuda with his LS7 chevelle both 70's on Sunrise Highway in the day!
@@claytammaro7060 yep. With a 4:88 or 4:56 came with A Hone overdrive. We would try to make the lever come out of the drivers side driveshaft tunnel. Many had consoles so...
Yeah, this engine clearly wasn’t built to the Motion standards back in the day. Sounds like it got a much smaller cam and possibly less compression to make it more driveable. As if any car with a 4.88 rear gear is really street driveable.
She's a GROWLER!!! That is one sweet Camaro. I am a HUUUUUGE fan of Baldwin Motion. Absolutely some of the best-built performance machines still to this day.
I had a LS7 in my 69 Malibu with 4:10's and a 4 speed and its was a wild ride to say the least. I damaged the engine a long time ago and sold the Malibu about 20 years ago. Thinking back I still enjoy the memories of that power. It was a 90 over LS7 with LS7 cam, 850 Holley Super comps. The reason it was 90 over was previous owner of the engine blew it up. I remember wrecking a few Muncies with that engine...one on Halloween 1995. Monster Mash was actually playing at the time, and my buddy says "Muncie Mash"...I will always remember that.
Cool! Growing up my aunbts boyfriend had a 67 rs with a super nasty solid lifter 396 Muncie and 4.56 I wanted a ride in that car SO bad...dad wouldnt have it. He and I are still friends to this day, already was into cars but I fault him for my obsession lol
Jesus om old lmao ... I remember it getting restored 20 yrs ago , helped peaked my interest in 69 camaros , sending me onto a mission which ended in me at 18 buying a 70 ss396 chevelle . Thanks for the memories LMC.
Visited the showroom a few years ago. The highlight of my trip back home to Ontario. What I and most others consider to be he best restoration team in the world. The showroom was quit. I kept looked up at the mezzanine. I'm sure I was drooling..but did my best to not leave a mess. After about 30 minutes of standing in awe of the automotive art before me, the receptionist quietly came over and ask if I would like to go up???? Are you kidding me? But no... I know what's up there is off limits. But thank you. She's said, I see how you are with your kids, how respectful they are around he cars. Do go up and look.... carefully. I will remember that day for a lifetime. Standing in front of the Cobra. Thank you.
It has been over 50 years but I worked at Motion along with a good friend, Stan Noren. We, along with a few other mechanics built a large portion of their Nova's, Camaro's, and the occasional Corvette... Joel Ros0en, the owner used to take finished cars out on Sunrise Hwy. in front of the store a launch them with all the guys involved in the builds standing on the sidewalk and watching.....Great times and many old memories of all sorts of stories come back when I see a car that I helped build...think we originally built that with a Holley 3 Bbl. Carb back then!
I own a 1971 camaro baldwin motion phase 3, it has a highly built 454 LS7, t400 trans, 12 bolt rear with 4.10. 2 1/8 primary headers, to dual 4 inch exhaust. I have owned this car since 1982, I will never part with it.
Wow, keeper for sure! Would love to see vids of it you cant find them these days. Has to be a blast to drive! Couldnt get me out of it, matter of fact!
Good afternoon, had the pleasure of watching your father and his crew of technicians restore this car. Glad to see that it is in someone's hands that will treat it like the treasure that it is. Thanks for another great video. You take care and good luck.
I just finished watching the full video of this build then watched this one right after. It was awesome to hear Tom's favorite line near the end of this video, awesome!
My 72 stingray convertable had an LS-7 an M-22 and 4.56! back in 78 that 2nd owner had bought it over the counter and being a hi-perf mecanic he installed everything and was the fastest car in the Ottawa Ont. area back in 78!!
Tnx for posting. The collector car, "world," never ceases to amaze and baffle me. This car, one of one, that could easily be cloned; nice '69 Camaro, hi perf 454, M22, etc., is worth 7 figures as you say, vs a clone that might be built for say $300K, all because it came from Baldwin Chev in NY back in the 60's. The value is not in the actual car, but where it was put together back in the in the day. As someone once used to say: that's not news, but that too is reality...
I dont understand how a clone can bring that kind of money. Its still a 69 Camaro that coulda had any engine in it. No way could I own this Ls7 and not take it out reguarly. Once in 10 yrs? Hope the old fuel in the secondaries was emptied
You need to, I drive by feel and listening, at 68yrs old I was lucky to drive alot of fun cars that today are called Muscle cars, back then they were just Hi -Performance cars 🚗!!! 2022
My bud in 1975 had a 69 vette with an over the counter, LS-7, with 4sp, 4.11 rear & racemaster slicks, ran it on a track one time & got a 11.87 ET thru the side pipes. That thing was a beast!! Above quoted 520hp which is what the baby brother L-88 made, I have a book with a dyno from back in the day showing 580hp in stock form with nothing bud headers..
Built BB makes huge gains with headers, sb not so much. Remember reading parts books as a kid wishing I could buy all the solid lifter crate engines GM sold with my paper route $.
What a keeper, short-shifting it like that it is through the gears and cruising in no time. Hope you can preserve this for many, many more years. Really happy to stumble across your channel, looked forward to the program on Speed years ago.
God I miss that show Dream car garage the care and effort that went into those cars was nothing short of amazing even the story of starting out in that little garage. Do you need a car like this needs to be a shirt glad to see you guys still at it. Hands down the best cars and car show in Canada 🇨🇦 one day I will be up to LMC
As a 53-year-old who has owned over 50 muscle cars, bought sold and enjoyed them. I really appreciate the love for these cars and I can’t believe the Inflated price hike that probably will take it down turn. It’s evident that you come from the very wealthy family and have no worries but the one thing I can appreciate is that you take a very humble approach and a love for these cars. I seriously appreciate young men like yourself!!!!
Agree. Even the not cool cars of the 60s 70s are overinflated...many a man will lose their arse on these cars in the future. When most homes have a new $15k cheapie EV daily they may lose interest in an old stallion likethis Plus theres no "next guy" or buying crowd...boomers, baby boomers loved these, us Gen X had em when they were cheap and cant pay big $.
I had a “71” camaro z28 in high school that ran high 12’s in the 1/4 mile. It was very fast for a 16 year old kid. After 5 speeding tickets, my parents made me sell it before I got to take it to the senior prom. What a bummer, but what a fun car to have as your first car. That was back in 1979-1980.
Been there years ago and Loved the show never met Peter but was fortunate to meet Kieth Sims. My photo flash shocked him as he was welding with his back to me when he was under a Dodge product if I remember right. We talked for quite some time about his end of the work and must say Kieth was and still is my hero at LMC. Would have loved to have worked with Keith, his knowledge and ability was a real inspiration of what could be done back at time when his level of work was so special. Hope Keith Sims is doing well he will always be the man at LMC.
WOW what an absolute beautiful car done RIGHT AND WITH JUSTICE!! Amazing how well it runs, right off the showroom floor. No stalling or falling on it's face when pedal is mashed!!!
True.. Those carbs were so well calibrated for GM, just as reliable as EFI in the right hands. Had a 70 Z/28 like that . First revolution it fired off cold or hot anywhere
My 72 vette was owned by a friend from Ottawa Camille Wana who was the second owner back in 78 and immediately bought an LS-7 an M-22 and a 4.56 rear!! it was the fastest car in the Ottawa area!!!
Leave it to GM for the lack of an original code # when naming the modern day LS derivative, the LS7. Since they already had used the LS7 moniker on this power plant, you’d think 🤔, how hard could it be to come up with an original code name back in 2004. So now when you tell people there’s an LS7 under the hood, most will figure it was updated with a modern LS. There didn’t need to be any confusion.
@@ronmiller1162 you completely missed my point, i’m not talking about visually looking at the engines or the acoustic sound each powered plant gives off, I am talking about GM using the same code name for both engines when (I agree) they are completely (except cyl. count) different.
@@ronmiller1162 However, the modern day LS7 is by far the most superior, naturally aspirated V8 engine GM has made to date, as it should be, since it’s @35yrs new than the old LS7. Shame on GM for code naming each engine the same.
@@rickstout2458, exactly! Their biggest code naming gaffe was when they named the C5 Z06’s engine “LS6”, stealing the code name from, well, I’m pretty sure I don’t need to tell you what grand daddy big block.
I still have some of the magazines Hot Cars and Super Street Cars from the long forgotten Engledrum Publishing that carried ads for Baldwin. There was one for a 1970 Pase 3 Camero. The advertisement said guaranteed to run 11:00 or better with an asterisk saying "With our driver and a sanctioned drag strip."
I rode in a 67 Chevrolet Camaro 454 it was fast plain and simple when you are in the city it does not feel comfortable the second you hit the highway its roars to life and pushes you into the seat
12:5-1 big port open chamber head, big rod, tuftrided crank, high nickel block and came with a notice for 4 spd only, no automatic use. I had 3 of these beasts in the crate, marked off-road use only, XCH "experimental Chevrolet" and yes, in a Camaro body you had to tie the subframes or it twisted more than a belly dancer =) The first one we fired on avgas for breakin' and the headers glowed white hot like the Chevy Power Book cover with Smoky Yunick running some NASCAR beast! Ah, those were the days...
But that was 73 when the LS7 crate engine came out, think it was about $1700. By the mid 80's it was around $24-2500. But this car apparently was built in 1970 so not sure what they used for cam, I guess the L88, or where the LS7 designation came from as only one 1970 test LS7 Corvette had been built and the engine in that car was nothing like this one or the crate engine that was to follow.
@@thud9797 I think the castings on my crate motors were late 1971 or 72, can't recall now but regardless, I can't speculate on this Camaro build or the motor provenance.
Yeah, that's an 11 second car, but glad they went easy on it. Love the image of it at the strip with the wide wrinkle walls and tunnel ram hood. Takes me back to the cars we built and raced in the middle 70s, cars that were thrashed to death and now worth 100 times what we paid for them.
It definitely was as Motion built the car back in 1969 but based on the idle sound and the dyno HP numbers given this engine is WAY milder than how it would have been delivered by Motion. Guessing less compression and much smaller cam.
Rubbed me the wrong way seeing the tach set at 3k, bet the 10 yr old gas is still in the secondaries Those blocks, cranks are ultra strong an occasional rip to 5k wont hurt a thing
@@danmyers9372 Cam was still loping at 2k its not small. GM made lots of solid cam grinds that could still use power brakes. They were big but gentler valve timing so its more driveable
I grew up not far from Motion Performance & used to drive there often , dreaming of one day having my car worked on at the shop... brings back such fond memories of my youth .
Wow! "Traction Action ", traction bars...a blast from the past. In it's vintage green with the side stripes, it looked just like mine. All that's left of it 38 years later are the door panels and the back seat. 😥
Hey Gary, another great video on a great car. The ‘69 Camaro is such an iconic year, never mind it’s a Baldwin Motion car. I’ve been out to your shop/showroom/museum a few times and loved all the rare cars there over the years. I keep buying lottery tickets because one day I will drop by and take home one of Peter’s Boss ‘9s.
@@legendarymotorcar Can't wait Gary. I enjoyed every one of the Legendary Motorcar episodes with you and your dad, Peter. I think the season pass is still on my DVR, LOL. Also the show where he was one of the appraisers of classic cars about to go across the auction block. I'm glad I stumbled across your TH-cam channel. Subscribed!
IN 1973 MY FRIEND SENT HIS BRAND NEW Z/28 TO MOTION PERFORMANCE AND THEY DROPPED A 454 IN IT THAT WAS AROUND 750hp WITH THE TUNNEL RAM AND DUEL QUADS .... CAR ALSO HAD A HONE OVERDRIVE ... WHEN HE WAS DONE IT WAS OVER 13,000.00 IN THE CAR WHICH INCLUDED THE INITIAL COST OF $4,500.00 FOR THE Z/28 ...
Saw that, big concern. Im thinking the motor was never refreshed after living life on the track. A loose tolerance forged engine is one thing but if the gauges and sender are correct this engine needs some going through.
Holy Shit! Somebody finally mentioned a Baldwin Motion car. Everyone seems preoccupied with Yenko, Yenko, Yenko. When I was a kid Baldwin Motion ads were in all the go fast mags. Yenko cars were pretty tame compared to Motion's Phase III cars.
Agree...they are all cool but so many Yenko clones, kinda ruins the fun. Course so many are afraid to drive them (wth is that!), 3000rpm redline such as this car. Guys act like the slightest thing will blow them sky high. Paranoid!
Got pizzed seeing the redline set around 3k, cam is still loping around 2!! Youre not gonna break it opening the secondaries these engines are bulletproof Only thing Id do is call Isky and get some modern valvesprings in it. Could listen to that cruising at 3500 rpm alll dam day and twice on Sunday! Barely cracking the primaries open its painting 11s, thats a BB for ya
What kind of fuel are you running? I worked for Motion in the 70's parts man while I went to school across the Island. Amity Cheverolet (Steve) supplied the LS7's when I was there!
0:00 How we got the Baldwin Motion Camaro
0:40 The Camaro on Dream Car Garage (2000)
1:30 Why this car is so unique
2:13 Specs & getting ready to drive
3:21 Driving the Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro
6:17 Drag racing the LS-7 Camaro vs. LS-6 Chevelle
7:00 Do you need a Baldwin Motion LS-7 Camaro?
I remember watching that drag race show on cable here in 🇨🇦🍁🇨🇦 And thought to my self is there anything Peter can't do
How was the 454 offered in 69 I thought it wasn't available till the 70 model year???
@@ckelley63 I’m pretty sure the 69 Corvette could be ordered with it. I had a buddy that bought a crate motor LS7 and dropped it in his street/drag Camaro bone stock...ran like a raped ape. 12.5 compression but you could get 99 octane at the pumps back then. I believe it was also a solid lifter cam...whatever it was it had a wicked idle.
@@ckelley63 In the description it states that the invoice date for the car was July of 1970, so the LS7 would have been available, if you had the connections which of course Baldwin did.
I remember dream car garage use to watch it all the time
I’d watch the old show every week. Miss Tom R.I.P. . “Do you Need this Car? Do you Want this Car”. Nice Camaro. Nice sound.
GH, Yep miss Tom as well. Peter sometimes looked at Tom like he was Nutty.
Great looking Camaro.
Damn I didn't know he passed RIP he was a character
@@clodge5196 how did he pass?? Pretty young in this video
@@danieljacobson5774 He died July 30th 2012 from kidney failure Daniel.
Had no idea. Sad to hear this, RIP!
Also the LS7's that Amityville Chevy supplied were Dynoed at 660hp with 12.5 slugs and the L88 cam .560 over .600. Some guys got it with the ZL1 cam. Those are big gears Joel usually liked the 4.56's
Or even the special Rockwell 4.10's. You would love the story when Joel raced a Hemi Cuda with his LS7 chevelle both 70's on Sunrise Highway in the day!
Amityville NY?
All his cars were offered with a over drive
@@claytammaro7060 yep. With a 4:88 or 4:56 came with A Hone overdrive. We would try to make the lever come out of the drivers side driveshaft tunnel. Many had consoles so...
Yeah, this engine clearly wasn’t built to the Motion standards back in the day. Sounds like it got a much smaller cam and possibly less compression to make it more driveable. As if any car with a 4.88 rear gear is really street driveable.
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She's a GROWLER!!! That is one sweet Camaro. I am a HUUUUUGE fan of Baldwin Motion. Absolutely some of the best-built performance machines still to this day.
I had a LS7 in my 69 Malibu with 4:10's and a 4 speed and its was a wild ride to say the least. I damaged the engine a long time ago and sold the Malibu about 20 years ago. Thinking back I still enjoy the memories of that power. It was a 90 over LS7 with LS7 cam, 850 Holley Super comps. The reason it was 90 over was previous owner of the engine blew it up. I remember wrecking a few Muncies with that engine...one on Halloween 1995. Monster Mash was actually playing at the time, and my buddy says "Muncie Mash"...I will always remember that.
how fast? in 1/4??
never took it to the strip@@GidDree
Cool! Growing up my aunbts boyfriend had a 67 rs with a super nasty solid lifter 396 Muncie and 4.56 I wanted a ride in that car SO bad...dad wouldnt have it.
He and I are still friends to this day, already was into cars but I fault him for my obsession lol
@@GidDree It was just a weekend driver, never raced it...I would say 11 second car if I would have brought it to a track.
@@bobsilver3983 11s ain't shabby..115 mph ish💪
Jesus om old lmao ... I remember it getting restored 20 yrs ago , helped peaked my interest in 69 camaros , sending me onto a mission which ended in me at 18 buying a 70 ss396 chevelle . Thanks for the memories LMC.
Visited the showroom a few years ago. The highlight of my trip back home to Ontario. What I and most others consider to be he best restoration team in the world. The showroom was quit. I kept looked up at the mezzanine. I'm sure I was drooling..but did my best to not leave a mess. After about 30 minutes of standing in awe of the automotive art before me, the receptionist quietly came over and ask if I would like to go up???? Are you kidding me? But no... I know what's up there is off limits. But thank you. She's said, I see how you are with your kids, how respectful they are around he cars. Do go up and look.... carefully. I will remember that day for a lifetime. Standing in front of the Cobra. Thank you.
It has been over 50 years but I worked at Motion along with a good friend, Stan Noren. We, along with a few other mechanics built a large portion of their Nova's, Camaro's, and the occasional Corvette... Joel Ros0en, the owner used to take finished cars out on Sunrise Hwy. in front of the store a launch them with all the guys involved in the builds standing on the sidewalk and watching.....Great times and many old memories of all sorts of stories come back when I see a car that I helped build...think we originally built that with a Holley 3 Bbl. Carb back then!
I own a 1971 camaro baldwin motion phase 3, it has a highly built 454 LS7, t400 trans, 12 bolt rear with 4.10. 2 1/8 primary headers, to dual 4 inch exhaust. I have owned this car since 1982, I will never part with it.
Wow, keeper for sure! Would love to see vids of it you cant find them these days.
Has to be a blast to drive! Couldnt get me out of it, matter of fact!
Brings back memories. Can’t believe how long it has been since Tom passed away.
Peter and Tom made a great show!
Good afternoon, had the pleasure of watching your father and his crew of technicians restore this car. Glad to see that it is in someone's hands that will treat it like the treasure that it is. Thanks for another great video. You take care and good luck.
I remember driving past Baldwin Motion as a kid and seeing the Camaros and Corvettes out front back in the day...
Man hearing you ask the magic question really made me smile. Thanks so much for bringing LMC back to everyone who loved watching you guys years ago
Our pleasure!
Miss Tom, Kudos to you Gary, for bringing in Tom's favorite words. The car looks amazing.
Sweet baby carrots what a car! I had forgotten about this, seeing the old episode clips brought back some fond memories. As always, thank you.
Man I used to LOVE this show. So nice to see you guys again. So sorry to hear Tom passed 😞
I just finished watching the full video of this build then watched this one right after. It was awesome to hear Tom's favorite line near the end of this video, awesome!
My 72 stingray convertable had an LS-7 an M-22 and 4.56! back in 78 that 2nd owner had bought it over the counter and being a hi-perf mecanic he installed everything and was the fastest car in the Ottawa Ont. area back in 78!!
Hear lots of fastest car stories but yours...it just may have been.
That is a bad boy of a BB! Esp in 78 where 13 sec st cars werent that common
American muscle is the best. Those old push rod engines had the greatest sound of all time.
She really sounded tough
They’re still pushrod engines.
Like Father like Son Excellent, keep up the good work!!!
Do I need one? YES......YES I DO!!!
Tnx for posting. The collector car, "world," never ceases to amaze and baffle me. This car, one of one, that could easily be cloned; nice '69 Camaro, hi perf 454, M22, etc., is worth 7 figures as you say, vs a clone that might be built for say $300K, all because it came from Baldwin Chev in NY back in the 60's. The value is not in the actual car, but where it was put together back in the in the day. As someone once used to say: that's not news, but that too is reality...
I dont understand how a clone can bring that kind of money. Its still a 69 Camaro that coulda had any engine in it.
No way could I own this Ls7 and not take it out reguarly. Once in 10 yrs?
Hope the old fuel in the secondaries was emptied
I can't even BEGIN to imagine how much that building is insured for. . . o.O
that’s what keeps Jay Leno so poor. 🤣
@@blueman5924 and happy as a hog in shit lol
I've wondered if it would make sense for someone like Jay to self insure?
You need to, I drive by feel and listening, at 68yrs old I was lucky to drive alot of fun cars that today are called Muscle cars, back then they were just Hi -Performance cars 🚗!!! 2022
Great show!
R.I.P Tom Dream Car Garage
This channel just keeps on gettin' better! Thanks LMC!
Remember those days getting there catalog and stickers and them advertising the 9 sec V8 Vegas with 454's in them.
Did Tom pass away
@@rickarra9396 Yes he did Rick. He dies July 30th 2012 from kidney failure.
My bud in 1975 had a 69 vette with an over the counter, LS-7, with 4sp, 4.11 rear & racemaster slicks, ran it on a track one time & got a 11.87 ET thru the side pipes. That thing was a beast!! Above quoted 520hp which is what the baby brother L-88 made, I have a book with a dyno from back in the day showing 580hp in stock form with nothing bud headers..
Built BB makes huge gains with headers, sb not so much.
Remember reading parts books as a kid wishing I could buy all the solid lifter crate engines GM sold with my paper route $.
Watched your dad's show for years growing up! Just living a few miles away! Glad to see your keeping it going! 💯
I see this old footage and miss Tom.
Great job on the video, when that motor idles it’s music too my ears 👍
What a keeper, short-shifting it like that it is through the gears and cruising in no time. Hope you can preserve this for many, many more years. Really happy to stumble across your channel, looked forward to the program on Speed years ago.
God I miss that show Dream car garage the care and effort that went into those cars was nothing short of amazing even the story of starting out in that little garage. Do you need a car like this needs to be a shirt glad to see you guys still at it. Hands down the best cars and car show in Canada 🇨🇦 one day I will be up to
LMC
The smile on your face while driving it says it it all, Yes you do need one!! haha
Right there is the ultimate muscle car 💪☝️🔥 !
As a 53-year-old who has owned over 50 muscle cars, bought sold and enjoyed them. I really appreciate the love for these cars and I can’t believe the Inflated price hike that probably will take it down turn. It’s evident that you come from the very wealthy family and have no worries but the one thing I can appreciate is that you take a very humble approach and a love for these cars. I seriously appreciate young men like yourself!!!!
Your comment about the financial status of his family is absolutely irrelevant,and idiotic at best....
Agree. Even the not cool cars of the 60s 70s are overinflated...many a man will lose their arse on these cars in the future.
When most homes have a new $15k cheapie EV daily they may lose interest in an old stallion likethis
Plus theres no "next guy" or buying crowd...boomers, baby boomers loved these, us Gen X had em when they were cheap and cant pay big $.
I had a “71” camaro z28 in high school that ran high 12’s in the 1/4 mile. It was very fast for a 16 year old kid. After 5 speeding tickets, my parents made me sell it before I got to take it to the senior prom. What a bummer, but what a fun car to have as your first car. That was back in 1979-1980.
Lucky you! Mine wouldnt allow me to have a DL til I moved out.
So I vanished early one sunday morning, just turned 17
Those cars put smiles on faces. Look at your face bro! :-)
It’s a beauty I owned one 1968 Camaro very fast trust me still have it today.
Mid 90s I tried to buy yet another 1st gen Camaro they were outta sight price wise back then. Still got some polaroids
Been there years ago and Loved the show never met Peter but was fortunate to meet Kieth Sims. My photo flash shocked him as he was welding with his back to me when he was under a Dodge product if I remember right. We talked for quite some time about his end of the work and must say Kieth was and still is my hero at LMC. Would have loved to have worked with Keith, his knowledge and ability was a real inspiration of what could be done back at time when his level of work was so special.
Hope Keith Sims is doing well he will always be the man at LMC.
What a beautiful car! I just can’t imagine that 454 in a Camaro !!
Thing of beauty and the sound...the devil approves that thunder!!
WOW what an absolute beautiful car done RIGHT AND WITH JUSTICE!! Amazing how well it runs, right off the showroom floor. No stalling or falling on it's face when pedal is mashed!!!
True.. Those carbs were so well calibrated for GM, just as reliable as EFI in the right hands. Had a 70 Z/28 like that .
First revolution it fired off cold or hot anywhere
My 72 vette was owned by a friend from Ottawa Camille Wana who was the second owner back in 78 and immediately bought an LS-7 an M-22 and a 4.56 rear!! it was the fastest car in the Ottawa area!!!
Great car... love the original show. Tom was such a great guy....
Leave it to GM for the lack of an original code # when naming the modern day LS derivative, the LS7. Since they already had used the LS7 moniker on this power plant, you’d think 🤔, how hard could it be to come up with an original code name back in 2004. So now when you tell people there’s an LS7 under the hood, most will figure it was updated with a modern LS. There didn’t need to be any confusion.
anyone that knows engines would not be confused between the two powerplants
@@ronmiller1162 you completely missed my point, i’m not talking about visually looking at the engines or the acoustic sound each powered plant gives off, I am talking about GM using the same code name for both engines when (I agree) they are completely (except cyl. count) different.
@@ronmiller1162 However, the modern day LS7 is by far the most superior, naturally aspirated V8 engine GM has made to date, as it should be, since it’s @35yrs new than the old LS7. Shame on GM for code naming each engine the same.
How many times did GM re-use the LT1 engine designation? I mean jeez.
@@rickstout2458, exactly!
Their biggest code naming gaffe was when they named the C5 Z06’s engine “LS6”, stealing the code name from, well, I’m pretty sure I don’t need to tell you what grand daddy big block.
It's cool to see a young man enjoy this car it's like 1969 all over again.
Loved the show, loved watching your Dad. Keep up the good work. Welcome back
I still have some of the magazines Hot Cars and Super Street Cars from the long forgotten Engledrum Publishing that carried ads for Baldwin.
There was one for a 1970 Pase 3 Camero.
The advertisement said guaranteed to run 11:00 or better with an asterisk saying "With our driver and a sanctioned drag strip."
What a classic muscle car!! 👍🙂
One amazing Camaro, but I also liked the GT4 menu music playing in the background! 🤘😎
Very cool . The original owner seems must of favored an unassuming stock look . I was surprised no special decals or hood treatment
Tom was the man! Miss that guy!
I rode in a 67 Chevrolet Camaro 454 it was fast plain and simple when you are in the city it does not feel comfortable the second you hit the highway its roars to life and pushes you into the seat
Used to watch LMC in UK, think it was on Discovery. Glad you will have new content each week.
On discovery and Men and motors also Barret Jackson
When I heard the engine rev and start... I fell in love!! ❤🔥
Big solid cams still loping at 2krpm, sound of forged piston slap.
That is the best sound in the world.
@@gordocarbo You know it!! Gotta love it...
12:5-1 big port open chamber head, big rod, tuftrided crank, high nickel block and came with a notice for 4 spd only, no automatic use. I had 3 of these beasts in the crate, marked off-road use only, XCH "experimental Chevrolet" and yes, in a Camaro body you had to tie the subframes or it twisted more than a belly dancer =) The first one we fired on avgas for breakin' and the headers glowed white hot like the Chevy Power Book cover with Smoky Yunick running some NASCAR beast! Ah, those were the days...
Chele, what was the price tag on those puppies?
But that was 73 when the LS7 crate engine came out, think it was about $1700. By the mid 80's it was around $24-2500.
But this car apparently was built in 1970 so not sure what they used for cam, I guess the L88, or where the LS7 designation came from as only one 1970 test LS7 Corvette had been built and the engine in that car was nothing like this one or the crate engine that was to follow.
@@rickstout2458 I paid only $3500 each on 4 of em in the mid 1980s!
@@thud9797 I think the castings on my crate motors were late 1971 or 72, can't recall now but regardless, I can't speculate on this Camaro build or the motor provenance.
Yeah, that's an 11 second car, but glad they went easy on it. Love the image of it at the strip with the wide wrinkle walls and tunnel ram hood. Takes me back to the cars we built and raced in the middle 70s, cars that were thrashed to death and now worth 100 times what we paid for them.
It definitely was as Motion built the car back in 1969 but based on the idle sound and the dyno HP numbers given this engine is WAY milder than how it would have been delivered by Motion. Guessing less compression and much smaller cam.
At 103mph it would be high 12's.
Rubbed me the wrong way seeing the tach set at 3k, bet the 10 yr old gas is still in the secondaries
Those blocks, cranks are ultra strong an occasional rip to 5k wont hurt a thing
@@danmyers9372 Cam was still loping at 2k its not small.
GM made lots of solid cam grinds that could still use power brakes.
They were big but gentler valve timing so its more driveable
It's a miracle that car survived!
Gary is the New-Age Tom! Love it!
Love you this return of Legendary.
Yes I want a Baldwin Motion Camaro!
I grew up not far from Motion Performance & used to drive there often , dreaming of one day having my car worked on at the shop... brings back such fond memories of my youth .
What a cool shop to be able to stop in at!
Next up that Shelby?
Nice to see Tom and Dad at Cayuga.
Great video, always enjoyed Dream Car Garage >> love the comedy between Tom and your dad , they always made me laugh . R.I.P. Tom
The smile on your face says it all
Every man should want a Baldwin Camaro 😊
Great show- keep them coming!
Glad you are keeping Tom’s ending to every show. Nice 👌🏽
Keep bring out the cars for a run. Nice to see & hear them stretch their legs. What a great job, as rare as the car itself.
Thanks, will do!
Great video, full of enthusiasm.
Sure is, well spoken. Dad did a good job
Sad seeing guys in their youth, then a few decades later makes me realize Im no spring chicken anymore.
Never mind L88s, Zls, this has to be the Holy Grail of GM muscle cars .Wow...
Wow! "Traction Action ", traction bars...a blast from the past. In it's vintage green with the side stripes, it looked just like mine. All that's left of it 38 years later are the door panels and the back seat. 😥
Awesome video!!
That sounds like the music from Gran Turismo when you shop for cars!
Beautiful car
You're right!
Hey Gary, another great video on a great car. The ‘69 Camaro is such an iconic year, never mind it’s a Baldwin Motion car. I’ve been out to your shop/showroom/museum a few times and loved all the rare cars there over the years. I keep buying lottery tickets because one day I will drop by and take home one of Peter’s Boss ‘9s.
Thanks for the support Ron! hope to see you once we're back to normal!
@@legendarymotorcar Can't wait Gary. I enjoyed every one of the Legendary Motorcar episodes with you and your dad, Peter. I think the season pass is still on my DVR, LOL. Also the show where he was one of the appraisers of classic cars about to go across the auction block. I'm glad I stumbled across your TH-cam channel. Subscribed!
You have the choicest cars.
Bro the GT4 music is why I subscribe
IN 1973 MY FRIEND SENT HIS BRAND NEW Z/28 TO MOTION PERFORMANCE AND THEY DROPPED A 454 IN IT THAT WAS AROUND 750hp WITH THE TUNNEL RAM AND DUEL QUADS .... CAR ALSO HAD A HONE OVERDRIVE ...
WHEN HE WAS DONE IT WAS OVER 13,000.00 IN THE CAR WHICH INCLUDED THE INITIAL COST OF $4,500.00 FOR THE Z/28 ...
Lucky kid, nice too see he knows he’s lucky.
Thanks Roger, Very lucky, just trying to work hard and take it all in!
Can you imagine growing up around all those and getting to drive them?
I hope the shots of the gauges were taken with the car idling...30 psi of oil pressure is not good if he's turning 3500 rpm.
Saw that, big concern. Im thinking the motor was never refreshed after living life on the track. A loose tolerance forged engine is one thing but if the gauges and sender are correct this engine needs some going through.
Dam you have the coolest job in the world! I've never even heard about this Camaro .
3:55 Camera angle make the steering wheel look even BIGGER !
Your awesome and great review!!👏👏😎
Just watched it. Great car. Did you notice the drip on MSD shot at 4:07. Was the heater core leaking?
That thing sounds incredible
Do you need a car like this ? No .......... Do you want a car like this ? Oh my yes ! 😎♥️. ...... I miss hearing that comment every weekend 😎♥️
Awesome & well done ride!!
This music is from Grand Turismo! I love it!
Nice Gran Turismo music. 😎👍
Holy Shit! Somebody finally mentioned a Baldwin Motion car. Everyone seems preoccupied with Yenko, Yenko, Yenko. When I was a kid Baldwin Motion ads were in all the go fast mags. Yenko cars were pretty tame compared to Motion's Phase III cars.
Agree...they are all cool but so many Yenko clones, kinda ruins the fun.
Course so many are afraid to drive them (wth is that!), 3000rpm redline such as this car. Guys act like the slightest thing will blow them sky high.
Paranoid!
I would be scared to drive it. Not because of the power, but because of the value!!!
Get classic car insurance. Be choose when/where you drive and get your $ worth otherwise its a useless dust collector!
When you said it's a sleeper, i had to laugh. Any car that says Baldwin Motion, SS, or 454 on it is definitely NOT a sleeper.
True but to most on the road its just another 69 Camaro
Thank you for showing us
@ 5:38 looks like a green 69 camaro goes opposite way past him on the road lol
Got pizzed seeing the redline set around 3k, cam is still loping around 2!!
Youre not gonna break it opening the secondaries these engines are bulletproof
Only thing Id do is call Isky and get some modern valvesprings in it.
Could listen to that cruising at 3500 rpm alll dam day and twice on Sunday!
Barely cracking the primaries open its painting 11s, thats a BB for ya
These guys are a wealth of knowledge with top notch restorations but anyone else think the grill SS emblem is upsidedown?
That was really cool!😎
I think you better check the valve guides on the drinkers side
What kind of fuel are you running? I worked for Motion in the 70's parts man while I went to school across the Island. Amity Cheverolet (Steve) supplied the LS7's when I was there!
Premium pump, add some Torco or VP additive and away you go