This music speaks for itself. It needs no defense. The often lambasted 4th movement is a very satisfactory conclusion to a wonderful symphony. It holds its own next to the Schumann and Brahms. symphonies.
Возвращаясь к симфониям Макса Бруха, хочу подчеркнуть, что из его симфоний льются профетически выстроенные глубокие Гармонии, пробуждающие в душе человека Импульсы Любви, Мудрости и Силы, вещающие людям Победу над всеми невзгодами...Макс Брух неузнанный Пророк !!! Теппер Михаил.
I;ve always found Bruch's music to be subtle in a way that requires repeated hearings. However, once it gets into you there's a feeling you get inside that is similar to how you feel when you've made a new friend that you are getting to know
When I first heard a Bruch violin concerto I realized he was a first class composer with an ear for a good melody. Nobody ever told me he had written Symphonies. Thanks entirely to TH-cam I discovered them today. Started of course with the first Symphony. The video has no live orchestra , and the name of the orchestra is not mentioned. There is no doubt Bruch had a very deep knowledge of orchestration. The performance is first class. What a gold mine to discover at the age of 89 - I have played the piano for 80 years and to concert standard for 70. Thank you TH-cam.
@@john-patrickdickson9663 I would like to recommend you Scottish Fantasy (thank to this composition I "met" this excellent composer 20 years ago) or d Double Piano concerto. Both available here...Bruch has been since beginning of XX.century named as "the best composer without talent" (!) by many very very clever music critics or music scientists. I am very glad to decide about my (and not only) music preferences without classification and explanation of such a fool people.
It is a CRYING SHAME that Bruch's epic 3 symphonies get almost no performances - in the US anyway. I worked in symphony orchestras for years, and attended concerts for many more. The Violin Concerti and Scottish Fantasy (a concerto too) were the only things of his ever performed. The 2nd movement of this symphony has got to be one of the greatest 2nd movements ever written. Always nice when the composer lets the string sections have the spotlight for a movement. Music directors needs to stop being wimps and only programming Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Schumann, and Mozart symphonies.
Bruch composed lots of good music but is still languishing the aftermath of WW1. Later in life he had a hard time getting work published and performed and his international reputation suffered because of hostility to all thing German. What a shame as he was a more than gifted composer.
I agree. I think the work maintains a strong Scottish-sounding character all the way through. You could accuse the symphony of being too-Mendelssohnian, perhaps, but I think the music is of the same level throughout.
The orchestral material (with the new-founded original Intermezzo as second mouvement) of this fantastic symphony you can buy by edition stringendo. (Purchase Material)
Bruch was a conservative. The style of this symphony shows it very well. Nevertheless, the work is full of greatness, and is very different from the grey tones beloved by Brahms. The symphonies of Bruch deserve to be best known.
They have very rigid playlists. I have recommend music to them on their request form - never heard any of it. Thanks to contributors on TH-cam, we get to hear things we'd have never heard on radio. Thanks, TH-cam uploaders!
This work is spectacular, triumphant, beautiful! Echoing some comments below, it "should be better known." And, through this magnificent channel and others, I've discovered symphonies by other composers that "deserve" more recognition. Along with those by Bruch -and narrowing the field to only composers born during the 1820s through the 1840s- one could mention symphonies by Raff, Reinecke, Goldmark, Borodin, Draeseke, Cui, Knowles Paine, Rheinberger, Balakirev, Svendsen, Sgambati, Robert Fuchs, Sir Charles Hubert Parry, George Frederick Bristow, . . . (?). And, of course, we may add some by very well-known figures (Dvorak, Rimsky-Korsakov, ...).
I agree, there's a lot of virtually unknown, great music out there. I too like Raff, but my top 3 obscure symphonies would be Vorisek, Sgambati 1 and Ippolitov-Ivanov
Bruch,post romantico come molti altri finisce purtroppo per seguire il loro stesso destino.Opere come questa ,per nella loro bellezza , artistica e tecnica non possono competere ai livelli dei loro maestri a cui si riferiscono.E perciò sono caduti praticamente in oblio......
Questa Sinfonia compare nel 1868, poco dopo il Concerto per Violino n.1 (indiscutibile capolavoro di Max Bruch), ed è dedicato a Johannes Brahms in segno di amicizia. Brahms in seguito si dimostrò - come spesso faceva - sarcastico nei confronti della successiva di Bruch, cioè la Seconda, asserendo che per legge si sarebbe dovuto vietare di comporre sinfonie con movimento iniziale lento: il primo movimento della Sinfonia n.2 di Bruch era un Adagio... Tuttavia Brahms seppe riparare nel migliore dei modi a questo suo sgarbo nei confronti di Bruch citando apertamente, e rendendolo protagonista della costruzione formale, il tema iniziale del primo movimento della Sinfonia n.1, nel corrispettivo movimento della Sinfonia n.3 in Fa maggiore op.90 del 1883, quindici anni dopo la dedica di Bruch.
Some musicologists show a bit reluctant with respect to these symphonies of Bruch. I must confess that I do not share their vision. Probably there are "better" romantic symphonies. But these of Bruch seem to me sincere, well written, of a solid achitecture, with a simple and discrete but appropriate orchestration. I must confess that I love this symphony, - perhaps less than some others, but I love it.
Someone once asked Toscanini "Why do you so much Catalani music. He sounds like Brahms--but isn't?" Maestro just harrumped. Maybe Bruch is like Catalani.
Damn. I was thinking to myself all the way through to the finale "How come we don't hear this piece much more often?" But once it got to the finale I knew why. What a shame! The first three movements are really excellent! I think he orchestrates better than Brahms.
My harmony teacher insisted on at least 16 written bars to present at each lesson. He would write on them in red ink and write a percentage mark at the top.I asked him if he gave any marks for padding. He said “I do fo clever padding” The last movement here is bravura padding from beginning to end, nevertheless it’s not worthless, we must give it some marks like 27%
Why? Because Critics and so named Music Scientist. Somebody from this group of super clever people wrote more than hundred years ago this composer had been best of composers without talent. And following people of this "tribe" have repeated it again and again in their clever books, articles, interviews and lectures. Music Theory Teachers pushed it into heads their poor pupils. Bruch is sometimes criticized for "conservatism". It means his music is bad? I hate people who want to make the other people to taste music according to their stupid theories a imaginations. Music is the most emotional kind of Art. Every perceives it differently. Music need no any explanation, need not to be understand from point of some Theory. If you hear some composition you need not know absolutely nothing about composer, time of creation, instrumental or formal things. You are the listener and it is fully in your head how you perceive this piece of music. Nobody is right to judge you or to say you (or even command you) what to listen and why. I found Max Bruch approximately 20 years ago and only thanks to rapid development of classic music CD publishing in that years. Production companies (as for example Naxos) needed new and new records and thank to this they discovered "old" and "forgotten" composers. Max Bruch was excellent composer closed to Brahms and wrote a lot of fantastic compositions. Not only these 3 symphonies, but for example violin concertos or great Scottish Fantasy and my last discovery - double Piano Concerto. It is much more better to listen the Music than to read or listen about the Music…
@@davidprada7209 I think those music critics' opinion is based more on the fact that Bruch bears an uncanny resemblance to Karl Marx. Sometimes that can end up in a complete ignorance of a composer. Besides he is a living testament that germans are not those cruel mechanic killing machines they'd like us to think, I think that is the main reason he got cancelled. I haven't found another composer who's so gentle and subtle in his voice. You listen to his works and you end up with questions about deep rooted paradigms. Same was with my father who was of a german heritage. I haven't met anybody who would be just close to him in kindness. Hardworking, loyal and kind, just like Bruch in his music.
“Among the Sierra Nevada Mountains, California”. Painting by the German-born American landscape painter, Albert Bierstadt. Painted in 1868 in Albert Bierstadt’s Rome studio. Currently on display in the "Smithsonian American Art Museum", Washington, D.C., USA.
I dunno, I realise everyone here seems to really love this, but I can't personally rate it any higher than most other Romantic symphonies. It's nice, but it's not at the level of Brahms, for example. Obviously, nothing against Bruch - he's got some really great music, even not counting the Violin Concerto No. 1 - but I don't think this one's much more than another run-of-the-mill Romantic Symphony.
This music speaks for itself. It needs no defense. The often lambasted 4th movement is a very satisfactory conclusion to a wonderful symphony. It holds its own next to the Schumann and Brahms. symphonies.
The second movement is absolutely spectacular!
Возвращаясь к симфониям Макса Бруха, хочу подчеркнуть, что из его симфоний льются профетически выстроенные глубокие Гармонии, пробуждающие в душе человека Импульсы Любви, Мудрости и Силы, вещающие людям Победу над всеми невзгодами...Макс Брух неузнанный Пророк !!! Теппер Михаил.
Excellent symphony with excellent harmony arrangement......i like it so much....thanks for uploading..
Beautiful music. All of Bruch's symphonies deserve more exposure in the concert hall.
The Bruch Symphonies deserve more hearing.
i heard this the first time the other day and am so glad to have come across it!! how have i never heard bruch's symphonies before!!?
I;ve always found Bruch's music to be subtle in a way that requires repeated hearings. However, once it gets into you there's a feeling you get inside that is similar to how you feel when you've made a new friend that you are getting to know
I've always loved the Bruch symphonys, I feel lucky to have known them for many years.
Me too :,D
When I first heard a Bruch violin concerto I realized he was a first class composer with an ear for a good melody. Nobody ever told me he had written Symphonies. Thanks entirely to TH-cam I discovered them today. Started of course with the first Symphony. The video has no live orchestra , and the name of the orchestra is not mentioned. There is no doubt Bruch had a very deep knowledge of orchestration. The performance is first class. What a gold mine to discover at the age of 89 - I have played the piano for 80 years and to concert standard for 70. Thank you TH-cam.
@@john-patrickdickson9663 I would like to recommend you Scottish Fantasy (thank to this composition I "met" this excellent composer 20 years ago) or d Double Piano concerto. Both available here...Bruch has been since beginning of XX.century named as "the best composer without talent" (!) by many very very clever music critics or music scientists. I am very glad to decide about my (and not only) music preferences without classification and explanation of such a fool people.
I wish i lived in that painting!
The great Albert Bierstadt
Bruch is my favourite composer behind Beethoven and Mozart.
Bruch over Bach, ok...
Sensationell schön!
Great Composer! Sublime!
It is a CRYING SHAME that Bruch's epic 3 symphonies get almost no performances - in the US anyway. I worked in symphony orchestras for years, and attended concerts for many more. The Violin Concerti and Scottish Fantasy (a concerto too) were the only things of his ever performed. The 2nd movement of this symphony has got to be one of the greatest 2nd movements ever written. Always nice when the composer lets the string sections have the spotlight for a movement. Music directors needs to stop being wimps and only programming Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, Schumann, and Mozart symphonies.
Bruch composed lots of good music but is still languishing the aftermath of WW1. Later in life he had a hard time getting work published and performed and his international reputation suffered because of hostility to all thing German. What a shame as he was a more than gifted composer.
you may be talking about another Bruch - Max Bruch Died in 1920 at 82, well known popular and renowned almost one year after WWI.
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Que músico tan notable y que pena que esté tan poco difundido, autor de obras maravillosas ! Ricardo de Lanús, Argentina
Así es amigo.
Mendelssohn's intonations are clearly audible
With respect, I think that the Finale of this symphony is fine and "of a piece" with the other three movements.
I agree. I think the work maintains a strong Scottish-sounding character all the way through. You could accuse the symphony of being too-Mendelssohnian, perhaps, but I think the music is of the same level throughout.
The orchestral material (with the new-founded original Intermezzo as second mouvement) of this
fantastic symphony you can buy by edition stringendo. (Purchase Material)
Max Bruch is a fine composer. Maybe not genius level. But a worthy, natural successor to Mendelssohn.
True
Bruch was a conservative. The style of this symphony shows it very well. Nevertheless, the work is full of greatness, and is very different from the grey tones beloved by Brahms. The symphonies of Bruch deserve to be best known.
"Like" on 18 August 2017, and never to be heard on KUSC-FM here in Los Angeles.
They have very rigid playlists. I have recommend music to them on their request form - never heard any of it. Thanks to contributors on TH-cam, we get to hear things we'd have never heard on radio. Thanks, TH-cam uploaders!
KUSC is too busy programming Morricone, William's, Harry Potter and Eine Kleine Nachtmusik.
Here in Phoenix, KBAQ plays the same old music. Like KUSC.
Super 😎
This work is spectacular, triumphant, beautiful! Echoing some comments below, it "should be better known." And, through this magnificent channel and others, I've discovered symphonies by other composers that "deserve" more recognition. Along with those by Bruch -and narrowing the field to only composers born during the 1820s through the 1840s- one could mention symphonies by Raff, Reinecke, Goldmark, Borodin, Draeseke, Cui, Knowles Paine, Rheinberger, Balakirev, Svendsen, Sgambati, Robert Fuchs, Sir Charles Hubert Parry, George Frederick Bristow, . . . (?). And, of course, we may add some by very well-known figures (Dvorak, Rimsky-Korsakov, ...).
Thanks, Hector. I fully agree. How can we talk? I live in Melb.
@@peterlim5730 Hello Mr. Peter Lim, thanks ! My email is hbronv@gmail.com
Raff = yes!
@@texleeger8973 Hello, Tex, thanks for your comment. Love Raff's symphonies ... I like his use of orchestral color, among other things.
I agree, there's a lot of virtually unknown, great music out there. I too like Raff, but my top 3 obscure symphonies would be Vorisek, Sgambati 1 and Ippolitov-Ivanov
Der Wahre All-Germanische Geist Lebte und Schafte nicht in Richard Wagner, aber - in Max Bruch! Tepper Michael.
Bruch,post romantico come molti altri finisce purtroppo per seguire il loro stesso destino.Opere come questa ,per nella loro bellezza , artistica e tecnica non possono competere ai livelli dei loro maestri a cui si riferiscono.E perciò sono caduti praticamente in oblio......
Questa Sinfonia compare nel 1868, poco dopo il Concerto per Violino n.1 (indiscutibile capolavoro di Max Bruch), ed è dedicato a Johannes Brahms in segno di amicizia. Brahms in seguito si dimostrò - come spesso faceva - sarcastico nei confronti della successiva di Bruch, cioè la Seconda, asserendo che per legge si sarebbe dovuto vietare di comporre sinfonie con movimento iniziale lento: il primo movimento della Sinfonia n.2 di Bruch era un Adagio... Tuttavia Brahms seppe riparare nel migliore dei modi a questo suo sgarbo nei confronti di Bruch citando apertamente, e rendendolo protagonista della costruzione formale, il tema iniziale del primo movimento della Sinfonia n.1, nel corrispettivo movimento della Sinfonia n.3 in Fa maggiore op.90 del 1883, quindici anni dopo la dedica di Bruch.
Some musicologists show a bit reluctant with respect to these symphonies of Bruch. I must confess that I do not share their vision. Probably there are "better" romantic symphonies. But these of Bruch seem to me sincere, well written, of a solid achitecture, with a simple and discrete but appropriate orchestration. I must confess that I love this symphony, - perhaps less than some others, but I love it.
Einfach fantastisch! Wie heißt das Bild?
Es heißt "Among the Sierra Nevada Mountains, California", gemalt von Albert Bierstadt".
And no-one mentions the stunningly atmospheric painting! Who painted it, I wonder?
don' t know.....but one day I am going to meet the One who MADE the scene. Can't wait !
NIGEL PERRY "Among the Sierra Nevada Mountains, California," Albert Bierstadt
@@twhis9843 Thanks so much for the info.
Someone once asked Toscanini "Why do you so much Catalani music. He sounds like Brahms--but isn't?" Maestro just harrumped. Maybe Bruch is like Catalani.
"...Why do you play"
Damn. I was thinking to myself all the way through to the finale "How come we don't hear this piece much more often?" But once it got to the finale I knew why. What a shame! The first three movements are really excellent! I think he orchestrates better than Brahms.
My harmony teacher insisted on at least 16 written bars to present at each lesson. He would write on them in red ink and write a percentage mark at the top.I asked him if he gave any marks for padding. He said “I do fo clever padding” The last movement here is bravura padding from beginning to end, nevertheless it’s not worthless, we must give it some marks like 27%
Why? Because Critics and so named Music Scientist. Somebody from this group of super clever people wrote more than hundred years ago this composer had been best of composers without talent. And following people of this "tribe" have repeated it again and again in their clever books, articles, interviews and lectures. Music Theory Teachers pushed it into heads their poor pupils. Bruch is sometimes criticized for "conservatism". It means his music is bad? I hate people who want to make the other people to taste music according to their stupid theories a imaginations. Music is the most emotional kind of Art. Every perceives it differently. Music need no any explanation, need not to be understand from point of some Theory. If you hear some composition you need not know absolutely nothing about composer, time of creation, instrumental or formal things. You are the listener and it is fully in your head how you perceive this piece of music. Nobody is right to judge you or to say you (or even command you) what to listen and why. I found Max Bruch approximately 20 years ago and only thanks to rapid development of classic music CD publishing in that years. Production companies (as for example Naxos) needed new and new records and thank to this they discovered "old" and "forgotten" composers. Max Bruch was excellent composer closed to Brahms and wrote a lot of fantastic compositions. Not only these 3 symphonies, but for example violin concertos or great Scottish Fantasy and my last discovery - double Piano Concerto. It is much more better to listen the Music than to read or listen about the Music…
@@davidprada7209 I think those music critics' opinion is based more on the fact that Bruch bears an uncanny resemblance to Karl Marx. Sometimes that can end up in a complete ignorance of a composer. Besides he is a living testament that germans are not those cruel mechanic killing machines they'd like us to think, I think that is the main reason he got cancelled. I haven't found another composer who's so gentle and subtle in his voice. You listen to his works and you end up with questions about deep rooted paradigms. Same was with my father who was of a german heritage. I haven't met anybody who would be just close to him in kindness. Hardworking, loyal and kind, just like Bruch in his music.
Why are you placing ads in the middle of the music? Are you crazy?
I, the uploader, do NOT decide where and when the ads should appear. Please get a adblocker.
@@KuhlauDilfeng2 I would protest if I were you. It is still your content.
6:40 - 6:51
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Scheeherazade the young prince and princes Korsakoff
...and what is the painting, please?
“Among the Sierra Nevada Mountains, California”. Painting by the German-born American landscape painter, Albert Bierstadt. Painted in 1868 in Albert Bierstadt’s Rome studio. Currently on display in the "Smithsonian American Art Museum", Washington, D.C., USA.
Si può dire che c'è molto di Mendelssohn, nel 1868 ??!!
録音があるんだ。(°_°)
I dunno, I realise everyone here seems to really love this, but I can't personally rate it any higher than most other Romantic symphonies. It's nice, but it's not at the level of Brahms, for example.
Obviously, nothing against Bruch - he's got some really great music, even not counting the Violin Concerto No. 1 - but I don't think this one's much more than another run-of-the-mill Romantic Symphony.
The Bruch Symphonies deserve more hearing.