Very respectful power NA, but with M1 fuel a man could threw every dab of boost at her and just made more power simply adding pounds and pounds of boost on M1... I may actually try a setup like that with a nice BIG turbo. For all that matter a fella should be able to run even more compression with a turbo and all the boost on alcohol.
@@stevenminix This is the first I've heard of anybody who wants high-compression in a forced-induction car. It defeats the purpose. All the extra air being slammed into the cylinders need a reduction in compression. Too much explosion, and boom! Something terrible happens.
Great thing about laying rubber at 0:32 is it's done all on motor. Both tires. No braking. No power adder. Just BB sized cubes, good airflow, higher street compression, and skinny pedal to the floor. This is why old school big block muscle cars were/are so loved in America!
You could run 89 octane if the compression was a bit less but I run 94. The 408 is made from a 351 windsor block bored .030 with a 4" stroke crankshaft.
@@Lonnielove803 What he has going is going to be spendy. IF you want a Windsor stroker it’s technically, a little over the cost of a rebuild. You just have to ensure all parts will be happy together.
Nice setup. I loved my 351 Foxbody, fun to drive, tons of torque. It was a Holley Carb setup which I loved. But I think EFI is just so far advanced now that you're crazy if you don't run it. Espeically if you get good at tuning and learn. But I love your car, man. Good luck with it.
Thanks! The car has bbk 1 3/4 longtubes (probably a bit small for the motor but thats all I could fit), a custom 3" x-pipe, and 3" flowmasters with 3" mac tailpipes.
@CoqLateralLimit, I agree. I know I did some research on it and considering the light nature of the car a 408W stroker is doable but 400hp is about the max rear wheel hp you can run. So I was looking at a 425hp 347 stroker which should be good. The camshaft is a custom grind from Comp, they modified a Xtreme energy hyd roller for 2000-6000 rpm range from 110* LSA to 112* LSA for more vacuum for use with fuel injection. I hope I can get atleast 12mpg city and 20mpg highway.
I use to build turbo low ten second street vw .s and do that and pull the wheel on the street never again on the street all most took out three cars make the power put it on the track before your luck runs out be safe. great ride good build.
you can use a a mid 22x intake duration with about 8 degrees overlap and 8 degree split, that the shorter intake will bring torque in sooner but the overlap will stil help scavenge and if you tighten up the LSA you can use the tight LSA and exhaust timing to push power out farther into the rev range. What you get is a car that sounds like a big cam car, makes early torque like a medium sized cam and makes big cam late power too. Again this on the long runner ls stuff, just what I have found.
BEST EXHAUST SOUND I'VE HEARD!! Car sounds and runs great, which flowmasters are you running, and what software did you tune it with, building a 427 for my SN95 and could use some good info!! THX!
Impressive mile per hour! with that kind of MPH you should be in the 10.6 to 10.5 quarter mile et! need to get that 60 ft time into the low 1.4 second range and you will be in the 10.60s for sure! very nice ride well done!
@theantinignog No I ran around 30 degrees total timing (so about 4 more than stock total) and probably could have run a bit more as the timing mark on the spark plug was still decent.
@tjo11918 Ya, it had the 90mm with 42s. To keep it under stock hood I had a custom elbow made. Since it won't let me post on here I'll message you the build thread with a lot more info.
Can you share the details and pics of the custom fabrication to get your 408 to fit under a factory hood. Please send to Donta.Seales@gmail.com thanks in advance.
Nice notch! Got a tigh lash solid roller in my 93gt, pump gas afr205s with victor jr with a pro systems 950. Drive it every day its nice out.. besides the can at idle runs n drives like a stock fox. N/A it went 10.64 @ 126 drivibg it to the track lol. Search stroker mustang vs. Nitrous camaro. Thats me
@bocastongum Yes I did last year with a different 408. Back when I dynoed it, it was only 9.5 to 1 with a small hydraulic cam. This year it's 11.5 to 1 with a solid roller. Were you there at the time?
It has a 408 on it, plus i'm sure it has a few bolt ons atleast, I can almost promise you hes putting down a mean 425-475 at the wheels, and massive torque.
Just an oppinion, but when you sstart adding more durration to get that extra power and higher RPM, you loose area under the curve and the cam becomes peaky and high. In a primarily driven street car most people would care more about a solid power and torque number in the driving window than a high and showy number so far up the rev range that is makes the car less fun to drive and actually slower in practical use. That is why i would choose a milder cam like this for a street car.
I actually run it on good 'ol 94 octane. There is no pinging or det. whatsoever, the cam is big enough to bleed off some compression but still make good power. I bet on your setup you would probably pickup by going down to a lower octane.
very nice car. I have just one question and not as a jerk. but in that burn out witch was very cool. with a stick shift how come there are no skips inbetween shifts ? and again not being a jerk.
Why only 6800? Cam seems like it would go higher than that, you've got the intake and valvetrain to support it. What is the lobe separation angle? Maybe the 5.0 and SBF stuff cam's different. But it seems like if the ports are good enough then it would continue to make power.
Great Car, thanks for the video one of the best on youtube with a 408! I am building a 408 for my 90 Fox, what cam are you running and what octaine fuel are you using with 11.5 to 1 comp.?
Could I get more info on the throttle body elbow and binary editor ?Im assuming you are running a 90mm throttle body with 42lb injectors. What all did you have to do to keep it under the stock hood? Im currently building a 408 myself with afr205s and probe rotating assembly. Im trying to chose an intake and I love the price and looks of yours, very clean and uncluttered. Thanks
94. You can Google VP or Sunoco octane to compression ratios. It'll give you a list of what are good comp ratios to run with pump gas. I believe 93 is good for 11-12:1 cr though.
Sounds great. 1 quick question what kind of miliage you get out of that engine with EFI in city and highway? I recently settled on going with a 10:1 compression 408 stroker myself rated at 500hp or so with either EFI Stack system (if its not too expensive) or the ProFlo2. But economy is what I am wondering about. As far as what vehicle its going into if curious, I will be dropping it in a 2,500 lb FFR Coupe with a TKO600 0.64:1 od and 3.55:1 truetrac Tbird IRS out back.
What kind of exhaust system are you using and what mufflers! I'm doing an AFR headed 408 in my 1990 fox! thats a sweet machine and the sound gives me goosebumps.
Nice car.I've got a supercharged 302 503rwhp mustang and was thinking of doing a 408w non supercharged engine. I've had good luck with my engine. Its lasted 2 years so far, but I just want to worry about less and ditch the supercharger setup. What kind of Horsepowerl and torque are you getting.? Any pointers on going the 408 route? check out my vids.
No blower, no turbo, no bottle......just pure pushrod Ford torque!!
The best.
I woulda ran that high compression motor with a turbo and on M1 fuel (alcohol)......
Very respectful power NA, but with M1 fuel a man could threw every dab of boost at her and just made more power simply adding pounds and pounds of boost on M1... I may actually try a setup like that with a nice BIG turbo. For all that matter a fella should be able to run even more compression with a turbo and all the boost on alcohol.
@@stevenminix This is the first I've heard of anybody who wants high-compression in a forced-induction car. It defeats the purpose. All the extra air being slammed into the cylinders need a reduction in compression. Too much explosion, and boom! Something terrible happens.
@@5.0L-Cobra-SVT-93 exactly !!, plus, you’d overheat the turbos
I don't know if I am more amazed by the car or him keeping it off the guard rail on that burnout. Amazing car and driving!
Yea no shit. that car is a animal
This is literally my favorite coupe on you tube.
Great thing about laying rubber at 0:32 is it's done all on motor. Both tires. No braking. No power adder. Just BB sized cubes, good airflow, higher street compression, and skinny pedal to the floor.
This is why old school big block muscle cars were/are so loved in America!
I always find myself back watching this! What a glorious machine.
You could run 89 octane if the compression was a bit less but I run 94. The 408 is made from a 351 windsor block bored .030 with a 4" stroke crankshaft.
How much did it cost to have that done?
@@Lonnielove803 What he has going is going to be spendy. IF you want a Windsor stroker it’s technically, a little over the cost of a rebuild. You just have to ensure all parts will be happy together.
What crank shaft?400?
What a beautiful Mustang, absolutely love the sound of the 408!
It's an AEM wideband and yes I would definitely recommend it. We run them in all our cars and they've never let us down!
sweet ride, and great strip run too, she hooks and cooks when it's time. Smoked that shitbox GM turkey.
Car sounds sick! Absolutely love her sound!!
This beast has to be one of the sickest sounding machines on earth! love it!!
Nice setup. I loved my 351 Foxbody, fun to drive, tons of torque. It was a Holley Carb setup which I loved. But I think EFI is just so far advanced now that you're crazy if you don't run it. Espeically if you get good at tuning and learn. But I love your car, man. Good luck with it.
Thanks! The car has bbk 1 3/4 longtubes (probably a bit small for the motor but thats all I could fit), a custom 3" x-pipe, and 3" flowmasters with 3" mac tailpipes.
Oh my god. It's so Mean. Love that fox body soundtrack. Made me Cry.
This is by far my favorite Fox video. I've been coming back to watch this video for years. Such a beautiful machine. Very skilled driving as well. 💯💯
Thanks! The cam is a billet XR292, 254/260 duration @ .050, and .621/.627 lift.
That is one sick notch stang you have there. Lots of bottom end and still revs like a small block. Great video !!!
@CoqLateralLimit, I agree. I know I did some research on it and considering the light nature of the car a 408W stroker is doable but 400hp is about the max rear wheel hp you can run. So I was looking at a 425hp 347 stroker which should be good. The camshaft is a custom grind from Comp, they modified a Xtreme energy hyd roller for 2000-6000 rpm range from 110* LSA to 112* LSA for more vacuum for use with fuel injection. I hope I can get atleast 12mpg city and 20mpg highway.
That Stang is gorgeous.
I have an 87 notch and I want exactly what you have. Well done. No hood scoop either. Beautiful.
Badass coupe! Can't wait to get mine done. That looks like Columbia River Gorge, too.
Fun times, something magical about those model foxes
I use to build turbo low ten second street vw .s and do that and pull the wheel on the street never again on the street all most took out three cars make the power put it on the track before your luck runs out be safe. great ride good build.
Beautiful car, great control on the rolling burnout through 3rd. What was you're wheel speed at the top of 3rd, just curious
one of the best videos on youtube!!! sweet ass ride!!
you can use a a mid 22x intake duration with about 8 degrees overlap and 8 degree split, that the shorter intake will bring torque in sooner but the overlap will stil help scavenge and if you tighten up the LSA you can use the tight LSA and exhaust timing to push power out farther into the rev range. What you get is a car that sounds like a big cam car, makes early torque like a medium sized cam and makes big cam late power too. Again this on the long runner ls stuff, just what I have found.
BEST EXHAUST SOUND I'VE HEARD!! Car sounds and runs great, which flowmasters are you running, and what software did you tune it with, building a 427 for my SN95 and could use some good info!! THX!
@347pony The car has ported victor junior heads, nothing too crazy!
The best sound 2 ever come out of a sports car!!!
Impressive mile per hour! with that kind of MPH you should be in the 10.6 to 10.5 quarter mile et! need to get that 60 ft time into the low 1.4 second range and you will be in the 10.60s for sure! very nice ride well done!
That's what extra stroke and cubic inches will get you especially with that compression ratio. Nice car.
Great car man. Lifetime Mustang guy here and that is sweet
Finally bought one and now haven't been able to run it with seizures, enjoy it while you can everyone
A little redline for a good time,love that car!
It's actually an aftermarket ford racing T56. It has a bit of a stronger output shaft, and the ratios are a bit nicer.
@theantinignog No I ran around 30 degrees total timing (so about 4 more than stock total) and probably could have run a bit more as the timing mark on the spark plug was still decent.
Nice little coupe you got there !!!
You’re a badass driver with balls. Good job.
Thanks! The engine has the 6.2 rod length
@tjo11918 Ya, it had the 90mm with 42s. To keep it under stock hood I had a custom elbow made. Since it won't let me post on here I'll message you the build thread with a lot more info.
Can you share the details and pics of the custom fabrication to get your 408 to fit under a factory hood. Please send to Donta.Seales@gmail.com thanks in advance.
@jjohnson225 no problem and thanks! Check your private messages for the build thread it wont let me post the link here!
Can you send the build to me at donta.seales@gmail.com.
@ez2memorize It actually has the nitrous on it, I just haven't hit it yet! Will do this year!
Nice notch! Got a tigh lash solid roller in my 93gt, pump gas afr205s with victor jr with a pro systems 950. Drive it every day its nice out.. besides the can at idle runs n drives like a stock fox. N/A it went 10.64 @ 126 drivibg it to the track lol. Search stroker mustang vs. Nitrous camaro. Thats me
@Jolazani Normally I rock just the oranges but the HIDs look alright so I threw them on.
Ford is good and always be good, thanks for sharing this beautiful example of ford power!
Beast ass car, you can handle it well too , damn good driver
Music to my ears. That is a bad ass Stang!
WOW.....hella sweet ride!!!!! Epidamy of mustang builds.
Holy shit! That thing slays! I love how fast if revvs! Insane. I need to work on mine more lol..
@bocastongum Yes I did last year with a different 408. Back when I dynoed it, it was only 9.5 to 1 with a small hydraulic cam. This year it's 11.5 to 1 with a solid roller.
Were you there at the time?
@LAWMANDA1 No skips cause of quick shifts. Also started in 2nd, 1st gear burnouts are a waste of time!
Yah I saw a bunch of civics do 3rd gear burnouts and run 11s last week now that you mention it!
Nooo making a fox stang run that doesnt take much. I got a 306, afr 185, gt-40 intake 5 spd runnin 12.30's all day long... mines 275 hp at most
Yes, but I have it in the billet form, the -8 is a cast that I would not trust with the proper spring pressure
nice coupe! runs real good as much as i love my 333 stroker i wish i had stroked a 351 also
There are no skips between shifts because dude can drive!!!
I'm doing a 408w in my fox, how did you make it fit under the stock hood?
Hunter Durbin solid maximum motor sports drop motor mounts
It has a 408 on it, plus i'm sure it has a few bolt ons atleast, I can almost promise you hes putting down a mean 425-475 at the wheels, and massive torque.
All I can say is damn ... Damn that is a monster
Just an oppinion, but when you sstart adding more durration to get that extra power and higher RPM, you loose area under the curve and the cam becomes peaky and high. In a primarily driven street car most people would care more about a solid power and torque number in the driving window than a high and showy number so far up the rev range that is makes the car less fun to drive and actually slower in practical use. That is why i would choose a milder cam like this for a street car.
Nice car! nice driving! love the burn out at 30 seconds in.
I actually run it on good 'ol 94 octane. There is no pinging or det. whatsoever, the cam is big enough to bleed off some compression but still make good power. I bet on your setup you would probably pickup by going down to a lower octane.
The car has a 90mm tb, 1 3/4 BBK headers, 3" X-pipe to 3" flowies
Now that's a mustang,what kind of power does she makes?
Good lord what a beast!!!
I am looking at a 408 stroker kit for my 93 lx coupe and the compression ratio is 11-7. So this helps. Thanks!
I like when he comes around the corner u can't see him but u can hear that sweet sound of a ford pushrod Windsor
very nice car. I have just one question and not as a jerk. but in that burn out witch was very cool. with a stick shift how come there are no skips inbetween shifts ? and again not being a jerk.
Why only 6800? Cam seems like it would go higher than that, you've got the intake and valvetrain to support it. What is the lobe separation angle? Maybe the 5.0 and SBF stuff cam's different. But it seems like if the ports are good enough then it would continue to make power.
Very bad ass!! I think you just helped me make up my mind about building a 408w.
I have the same intake and some TW heads, will be using a TKO 500
How did you manage to get everything under the stock flat hood?
Looks very fun to drive. Very nice
the sickest all around notch ive ever scene!!!
Ya, it has the original 40 series in 3" with a 3" custom x-pipe
Thanks for your help. Beautiful car.
Great Car, thanks for the video one of the best on youtube with a 408! I am building a 408 for my 90 Fox, what cam are you running and what octaine fuel are you using with 11.5 to 1 comp.?
this is just beautifull
love that stang, me too i want a 408w a efi in my fox
Well, that is just awesome...
I creamed ma drawers on that one dude. I'm waiting on my 408w to get finished. Sweet jebus I'm stoked
that 5.0 is literally perfecto!
5.8
damn this car has got to be so much fun
Could I get more info on the throttle body elbow and binary editor ?Im assuming you are running a 90mm throttle body with 42lb injectors. What all did you have to do to keep it under the stock hood? Im currently building a 408 myself with afr205s and probe rotating assembly. Im trying to chose an intake and I love the price and looks of yours, very clean and uncluttered. Thanks
That corner or stretch of road looked like dead man's curve ,all those flowers layed around.
Just wondering, since you are running 11.5:1, what octane are you running?
94. You can Google VP or Sunoco octane to compression ratios. It'll give you a list of what are good comp ratios to run with pump gas. I believe 93 is good for 11-12:1 cr though.
+Donate Pickettay 93 runs through my 11:1 302 just fine
Sounds great. 1 quick question what kind of miliage you get out of that engine with EFI in city and highway? I recently settled on going with a 10:1 compression 408 stroker myself rated at 500hp or so with either EFI Stack system (if its not too expensive) or the ProFlo2. But economy is what I am wondering about. As far as what vehicle its going into if curious, I will be dropping it in a 2,500 lb FFR Coupe with a TKO600 0.64:1 od and 3.55:1 truetrac Tbird IRS out back.
That man can drive very nice !
Great Car man Can you tell me what rod length are you running?
Very nice, what are mufflers are you using she sounds great! Check out my blown/stroked Cobra II sometime
"Thats one wicked Windsor"
LMAO, Mustangs were made to be driven, driven hard. Congrats on the nice build/car. Very clean!
OK I'VE POSTED A LINK TO THE BUILD THREAD IN THE DESCRIPTION
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Thanks for all the comments guys!
FORD POWER!!! Smoked that slow ass chevy...Question...how did you get that Windsor to fit under a stock hood
"I BLEED BLUE"
Omg.... nasty nasty car! Huge props! If you did it again... would you do a 331 turbo setup or the 408?? Im deciding on an 89 right now and torn!
@Qdug1 I think the best, probably on that pass, was about 7.2@99 . Not very impressive.
Nice machine, sounds damn good. I like it. What kind of wheels are those and what size are they? Thanks for sharing video
What kind of exhaust system are you using and what mufflers! I'm doing an AFR headed 408 in my 1990 fox! thats a sweet machine and the sound gives me goosebumps.
How the hell does this car have the stock hood on it? I am building a 408 for my car and would love to keep the stock hood
Depends on the dyno.
Nice car.I've got a supercharged 302 503rwhp mustang and was thinking of doing a 408w non supercharged engine. I've had good luck with my engine. Its lasted 2 years so far, but I just want to worry about less and ditch the supercharger setup. What kind of Horsepowerl and torque are you getting.?
Any pointers on going the 408 route? check out my vids.