Pretty sure Anthony Braxton plays that orsi (and has since the 70s!) Really cool horn, great and unique sound, love the one moment on "Creative Orchestra Music 1976" where it's a duet between Braxton on the Contrabass sax and Rroscoe Mitchell on Bass saxophone
Saw Anthony Braxton at the Knitting Factory NYC mid 1990’s and spoke with him after the gig. He is an amazingly talented musician! He played a contrabass at Iridium too.
Jim, I really like you and always enjoy your videos. That Orsi is very cool and it has so much more character than the tubax regardless of its clear advantages (ergonomics, portability, tuning, etc.) There’s no denying the tubax is a beautiful work of art and I’m sure they are both the perfect tool for specific (niche and less than lucrative) jobs but, for me, the Orsi wins this absurd battle. PS-Don’t worry, sax gals and non-guys. I’m sure he didn’t mean to exclude you and he’d happily take your £17,500. ;o)
It is possible I would get a bass/contrabass in the near future, but this video proved to me that a modern day B.E. would be the best option so I'm glad for this video.
De fato uma grande loja com os melhores instrumentos e uma grande equipe de profis- sionais : o resultado com certeza é pura matemática ; top. Sr. Paulo/Brasília
Awesome saxophones! I like what Benedikt Eppelsheim is doing with his Saxophones and how he makes the more unusual/unique saxophones and how he came up with a compact Contrabass which makes it easier to store and play. If I could ever afford one and I had the room, I'd get a Tubax for sure. What kind of mouthpieces do these use, bass? Something I think should have been mentioned is how to clean these since they are so big. How you go about cleaning and swabbing them after playing, especially the Orsi with its huge size?
Hi Dave, there are spit valves on both instruments, which helps a lot! You could swab the top section of each instrument with one of the typical bari sax cleaners. As for mouthpieces, you can get away with using a bari mpce on the Tubax, but we happened to have Pauline from SYOS in our store a few weeks back and we tried out her bass mouthpiece, which proved to work very well. Proportionally it is better than using a bari piece (for tuning). I also used Legere bass reeds for both instruments. As for the Orsi, the mpce that comes with it is so huge it's almost a joke. But it works! Jim
Yes it’s awesome to have one these to own and have bragging rights, but in reality no paid musician will ever own one of these, due to the production and cost of the horn between thirty to forty thousand US dollars just for the instrument it self, 2nd no regular repair technician will fix it due to size , parts and design, have to take it to the manufacture, 3rd cost of repairs/ complete repaid and overhaul looking around Ten thousand dollars or more,4th carting it around for gigs,you would NEED long cargo van that min ten feet long and a couple of people to carry it. This mostly applies to the stretch out orsi contra bass sax .Tubax you can use a car or small suv for transportation.Because of its size it’s in a paper clip formation.Also repairs might be easier to perform due to size space on the bench. But all in all nice review.Musician And repair technician from Canada 🇨🇦
I think the left hand layout on the Orsi would line up better if played with the horn tilting to the left rather than upright. That may be what they had in mind by angling those key touches the way they did. th-cam.com/video/hXBeu7o9uUM/w-d-xo.html
Can't one be done without that extremely fast widening of the bell at the end? Or even no bell at all? There's no need for extra harmonics on these ones. They're farty enough.
If I could afford it I would totally buy that vintage contra-bass, it's sound is so hypnotizing.
They’re ergonomically really rough, but the sound is indeed much richer and more complex than the tubax or even the eppeilsheim contras.
What's shocking to me is this vintage contrabass sax costs half as much a used, damaged, student model contrabassoon lol
True
These 2 instruments are just works of art, especially with the stories behind them and all the great musiciens who played them
That "thumb hook" on Orsi is funny, though; like anyone could lift up that contrabass sax and hold it while relying on thumb :-)
As a former BariSax and Bass Clarinet player, I'd love to try Bass and ContraBass Sax. I also played Tuba, Trombone, and Euphonium.
You should do tubax vs the eppelsheim contrabass! I would love to see that!
Now that may not happen for years!
Pretty sure Anthony Braxton plays that orsi (and has since the 70s!) Really cool horn, great and unique sound, love the one moment on "Creative Orchestra Music 1976" where it's a duet between Braxton on the Contrabass sax and Rroscoe Mitchell on Bass saxophone
Saw Anthony Braxton at the Knitting Factory NYC mid 1990’s and spoke with him after the gig. He is an amazingly talented musician! He played a contrabass at Iridium too.
Popped in to see that last week.....even caught it on video 😀
A second video of this Orsi contrabass and we still haven't seen the case! Come on, show it! :)
We'll try and get that added to the product images on the website
Jim, I really like you and always enjoy your videos. That Orsi is very cool and it has so much more character than the tubax regardless of its clear advantages (ergonomics, portability, tuning, etc.) There’s no denying the tubax is a beautiful work of art and I’m sure they are both the perfect tool for specific (niche and less than lucrative) jobs but, for me, the Orsi wins this absurd battle.
PS-Don’t worry, sax gals and non-guys. I’m sure he didn’t mean to exclude you and he’d happily take your £17,500. ;o)
It is possible I would get a bass/contrabass in the near future, but this video proved to me that a modern day B.E. would be the best option so I'm glad for this video.
I agree - they are in a class of their own. Jim
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De fato uma grande loja com os melhores instrumentos e uma grande equipe de profis-
sionais : o resultado com certeza é pura matemática ; top.
Sr. Paulo/Brasília
Awesome saxophones! I like what Benedikt Eppelsheim is doing with his Saxophones and how he makes the more unusual/unique saxophones and how he came up with a compact Contrabass which makes it easier to store and play. If I could ever afford one and I had the room, I'd get a Tubax for sure. What kind of mouthpieces do these use, bass? Something I think should have been mentioned is how to clean these since they are so big. How you go about cleaning and swabbing them after playing, especially the Orsi with its huge size?
I am pretty sure it uses a baritone mouthpiece
@@urticanshark2413 I just checked the link in the description and it said these come with bass saxophone mouthpieces.
You don't clean them. You just let them grow an unique ecosystem inside. And hope it doesn't try to kill you.
I'm pretty sure that yellow mp on the tubax is the Michael Wilbur signature Syos piece
Hi Dave, there are spit valves on both instruments, which helps a lot! You could swab the top section of each instrument with one of the typical bari sax cleaners. As for mouthpieces, you can get away with using a bari mpce on the Tubax, but we happened to have Pauline from SYOS in our store a few weeks back and we tried out her bass mouthpiece, which proved to work very well. Proportionally it is better than using a bari piece (for tuning). I also used Legere bass reeds for both instruments. As for the Orsi, the mpce that comes with it is so huge it's almost a joke. But it works! Jim
Yes it’s awesome to have one these to own and have bragging rights, but in reality no paid musician will ever own one of these, due to the production and cost of the horn between thirty to forty thousand US dollars just for the instrument it self, 2nd no regular repair technician will fix it due to size , parts and design, have to take it to the manufacture, 3rd cost of repairs/ complete repaid and overhaul looking around Ten thousand dollars or more,4th carting it around for gigs,you would NEED long cargo van that min ten feet long and a couple of people to carry it. This mostly applies to the stretch out orsi contra bass sax .Tubax you can use a car or small suv for transportation.Because of its size it’s in a paper clip formation.Also repairs might be easier to perform due to size space on the bench. But all in all nice review.Musician And repair technician from Canada 🇨🇦
My Dream this Contrabass sax
Very interesting. Your store looks amazing, I would really enjoy going there. Ted in Norway.
Is the eppelheim tubax contrabass saxophone(the black saxophone you played) in eb?
Yes it is, but they also make ones in they key of Bb which is the subcontrabass
It's my dream to own a beast like this. Maybe someday
Piękny, głęboki bas :)
Ahhh so managed to sell the Benedikt eppelsheim contrabass, the other massive contra
I prefer the tubax sound. Looks like more pitched
I think the left hand layout on the Orsi would line up better if played with the horn tilting to the left rather than upright. That may be what they had in mind by angling those key touches the way they did. th-cam.com/video/hXBeu7o9uUM/w-d-xo.html
First. Also really liked the lizzo cover
On the Orsi, the left hand position is very very high. Short people need not apply!
Now I'll go play my teeny-tiny baritone.
Will you guys ever do a eppelsheim bass sax review? it's a vary beautiful looking instrument.
I'd like to think so one day.
@@saxworldwide was is ever In the store?
Did someone buy the orsi already?
How much do these weigh?
I don’t care that I play low brass, this is interesting to me
Is it sub or just contrabass
Sub-contrabass is the real deal: unmanufacturable, unplayable and unlistenable! 😂
What about the intonation?
Great on the Epplesheim - on the Orsi, it takes more 'pushing' to not be a little flat around the middle. Loads of air support needed!
The Orsi has a bigger sound. No surprise.
Idk if anyone else has this opinion but I really dislike the lower notes on the tubax. they don't really sound that great in the low region for me.
Can't one be done without that extremely fast widening of the bell at the end? Or even no bell at all? There's no need for extra harmonics on these ones. They're farty enough.
It cost 20,000
Can someone send me 17.5k please? I want a contrabass so bad
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