How They Can Use the Rule on Unfinished Frames and Receivers to Disarm a LOT of You

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  • @pacosninjatacoteam2884
    @pacosninjatacoteam2884 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +136

    Let's let them make that argument! Suddenly machine guns are in overwhelming common use

    • @mtnbkr5478
      @mtnbkr5478 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      This is the way.

    • @Ferd414
      @Ferd414 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mtnbkr5478 It's called "malicious compliance". "Oh... I need a permit to have a garage sale? OK, here ya go - I'm gonna be having a garage sale every day for the next year - Here's my paperwork for today, here's my paperwork for tomorrow, here's my paperwork for the 12th of July, here's my paperwork for..." until they're drowning in a sea of paperwork, get fed up with trying to process it, and strike the stupid rule. (My mom and a few of her friends accomplished EXACTLY that, in exactly that way, back in the mid-70s, when our town decided that people having garage sales needed a permit so that the town could collect a piece of the action. They ended up having to hire 4 full-time "garage sale permit clerks" to try to process the tsunami of applications for a permit to hold a garage sale, and by the time they dumped the idea in the crapper (where it belonged from the start) they figured out that it was costing the town, on average, $400 more than the price of the permit just to pay the people who had to process the paperwork required to get the permit - and that didn't even consider the budget-hit from the extra cop they had to hire in a vain attempt to try to enforce it)

    • @michaelc2423
      @michaelc2423 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Excellent Point!

    • @AS768
      @AS768 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This is the way.

    • @koveras225
      @koveras225 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I was just thinking the same thing...

  • @bobmorgan1575
    @bobmorgan1575 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +159

    The ATF just needs to be disbanded, and all gun control laws vacated as unconstitutional infringements on our right to keep and bear arms.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Of course, none of that will happen in the real world.

    • @kdkinna1391
      @kdkinna1391 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey little boy , go on and shut the puck up . The dribble you spew has gotten old ! Move along junior bit boy !

    • @JamesDavidson-yq6bm
      @JamesDavidson-yq6bm 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@aquariumdude7829This is not the real world. Do your research. All just a movie

    • @thomascopeland402
      @thomascopeland402 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Never going to happen.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JamesDavidson-yq6bm I see.

  • @randallreese7118
    @randallreese7118 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +92

    It's time to disband the ATF

    • @duckwacker8720
      @duckwacker8720 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Remember what happened to Regan when he tried?

    • @stevep7346
      @stevep7346 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Dissolve. I like dissolve better.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Won't happen.

    • @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76
      @Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stevep7346 I kinda like "set on fire"

    • @stevep7346
      @stevep7346 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Daves_Not_Here_Man_76 Historically, that's kind of their move.

  • @garywillis9528
    @garywillis9528 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

    You are correct, it was never about unfinished frames and receivers, it was about establishing a national registry to permit future confiscations. This should have been obvious when the stated reason for the rule change, the alleged ambiguity of the 2 piece AR receiver, and instead went for broad definitions, which people forget includes unfinished suppressor parts. I aay this because at one time I considered building a legal Uzi, that is a semiautomatic version from an Israeli parts kit, and that often involved welding a barrel extension to the barrel to make it not an SBR! Anyway, the other became clear when they prosecuted Matt Hoover and the owner of Auto Key Cards which they designate as machine guns. The image on the key card was not actual and the only person to complete one that worked was an ATF technician with vast experience. So they set precedence as 8 hours of work in a fully equipped machine shop to be "readily convertable"! We also saw arguments by the US Solicitor General over cases that indicated the same.

    • @no-barknoonan8798
      @no-barknoonan8798 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lmao you should see what kind of insane projects people are doing with 3d printers.

    • @Bighitter03
      @Bighitter03 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Registry is unconstitutional

    • @cdhernandez772
      @cdhernandez772 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@garywillis9528 UR SOO RIGHT THEY JUS SLIDE THESE 🐂💩 SUB SEcTIONS AND cOMPLETELY IGNORE THE TRUE WORD OF OUR "cONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT'S"
      *"WITHOUT INFRINGEMENT!!" PERIOD!!

    • @faryldaryl3975
      @faryldaryl3975 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I still can't believe they actually got that conviction, that a drawing is a machinegun. I've also been wondering what the threshold is for readily converted. If it's 8 hours in an equipped shop, one wonders how long it takes a DD home table-top CNC machine to carve an AR lower out of a block of aluminum. How about if the code is written to slow the process to 8.1 hours, is that okay, but if you set it to 7.9, then it's felony time?

  • @ThomasLips
    @ThomasLips 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    At what point does the frog start to realize that the "hot tub" is getting too warm?

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      The trouble is at least half of the "frogs" are voting for this and even want more.

    • @pcalna3202
      @pcalna3202 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@aquariumdude7829Even a majority voting for something doesn't mean it's Constitutional or acceptable in any way. That's IF you believe half of the votes for the Hamas party are even alive, voting of their own free will, and actual American citizens.

    • @kdkinna1391
      @kdkinna1391 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A frog you are ? Yeah thought so .

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @pcalna3202 Dude, you are free to believe whatever you like, but the fact is winning or losing elections is the ONLY thing that matters. Unless you win some real elections and win often, it is going to be impossible to move your agenda forward. That is the reality.

    • @SpottableCarp37
      @SpottableCarp37 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The frog doesnt when its been lobotomized by propaganda and suppression of free speech

  • @anon-yw4wd
    @anon-yw4wd 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    The flip side of this opinion is that fully auto firearms would suddenly be in common use.

    • @LDR1100RS
      @LDR1100RS 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Which we just saw in United States v. Morgan.

    • @SquaskewBros
      @SquaskewBros 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Even counting just the MGs on the registry, they should already be common use

  • @patrickduffy8756
    @patrickduffy8756 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Even if that single hole is drilled into an unfinished receiver to push for the receiver to accept a full auto position in definition, that hole does not constitute the receivers ability to act as a full auto weapon. More parts are required to complete the process such as the proper Bolt Carrier Group (BCG) and a SEAR (which requires an Automatic weapons license to purchase or possess) used to accept the full auto position of both the BCG and the safety selector. In the U.S. Army I was a (45B-10) Small Arms and Towed Artillery repairman. I worked with Armorers and repaired such weapons daily. Hope this helps with educating everyone and may help serve as important information in any demonstration authority.

    • @enchentez
      @enchentez 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Also the built-in "blocking bars" in the teigger pocket would have to be milled out, which is no small feat even with a router and end mill because the buffer tower is in the way.

    • @RC-NW
      @RC-NW 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's only if you are building with the select fire mechanism. If you machine or file a flat spot on top of the bolt, you can literally use a soda can tab and a coat hanger, or even just some wire to make it full auto only. Which by definition is a machine gun. Look up the term drop in auto sear.

  • @TheMailmanOfSteel
    @TheMailmanOfSteel 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +81

    So they're just gonna call every AR-15 a machinegun and try to take them that way, huh? Good luck.

    • @BigTomInTheBasement
      @BigTomInTheBasement 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah. They make them illegal first. No more sales, etc for few years.

    • @ryanford736
      @ryanford736 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      My friend.... they've been doing exactly that for quite a while now. (Only now they might be able to stretch and bend the definition far enough that they could possibly be by law correct).

    • @budprepper3811
      @budprepper3811 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Well, my mind is a machine gun. Now I'm banned to think.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      They have already done that in a number of blue states. Are you blind?

    • @ReapersFear
      @ReapersFear 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I mean, IF they're going to call it one, might as well remove all doubt.

  • @dfb1111
    @dfb1111 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Thank you for telling it like it is concisely.

  • @sfsigmaguy
    @sfsigmaguy 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Bill, it was great meeting you at GOA’s G.O.A.L.S. conference last weekend. I’m the retired sailor you spoke with.
    Of the panelists I was able to speak with, you were the best by far. You were always available to your subscribers and always gracious. If you’re ever in Atlanta, beer’s on me!

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    The 'readily converted' language can be used on any semi auto gun if they really wanted to. Surprised they have not gone there yet actually.

    • @dwwolf4636
      @dwwolf4636 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Chicago is.
      Glocks.

    • @ShaggyRogers1
      @ShaggyRogers1 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Take the trigger assembly out of the equation and affix the bolt to the firing pin, and you can turn almost any semi-auto weapon into a slam firing machine gun. You actually have to design around that function in order to add a trigger or introduce a sear.

    • @flawless1up
      @flawless1up 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      ​@@ShaggyRogers1bolt released = mag dumped 😂

    • @faryldaryl3975
      @faryldaryl3975 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A practical definition (as opposed to a legal or industry definition) of the mechanics of a semi-auto is an automatic mechanism which has been equipped with some sort of interrupter or disconnector. As ShaggyRogers1 alluded, it's harder to make a semi design than a full auto design. Like I tell those who want to ban all guns, the easiest repeater to make from scratch is a 9mm submachine gun.

    • @jeffhays1968
      @jeffhays1968 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@faryldaryl3975 The U.S. Grease Gun is a perfect example of a MG that could be whipped up in almost any handy guy's garage.

  • @YedolfWesler
    @YedolfWesler 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    So many people think the same way. It starts with background checks. People say, "im not a criminal, it doesn't effect me." Then their crazy ex calls the police, shows a scratch on her neck, says you did it. Then they lose their guns and say, "this isn't fair, how did this happen?" That's what happens with every infringement. People say it doesn't effect them, so they don't care. Then it always surprises them when they are effected..

    • @rnungaray1990
      @rnungaray1990 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Anyone can file a civil suit and say you hit them. No proof needed. The police will come to your door to collect your guns before your day I'm court.

  • @Washoejim
    @Washoejim 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Great information William, love the detail in your videos, thank you.

  • @bobnovak9624
    @bobnovak9624 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is exactly why I've yet to dip my toe into buying an AR. Good grief ... and a local FFL is advertising, just today, a 3-pack of stripped lowers! Keep up the good work! I find your videos very informative!

  • @dougdouglass1248
    @dougdouglass1248 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Check out Dan O'Kellys take on frames and receivers. According to the legal definition an AR style rifle doesn't have a complete receiver until the upper and lower are put together.

  • @number6mbw
    @number6mbw 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Same thing can be said for Glocks. An hour or less with a common 3d printer can make it full auto.

  • @PyroRob69
    @PyroRob69 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    I’ll bet Will’s 80’ers are flawless. He is a perfectionist 😂
    Only the ATF could equate decomposed granite road-base into a finished Capitol Building of Colorado

  • @kennethhummel4409
    @kennethhummel4409 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have and more than 1! I’m a retired gunsmith and built them for fun and to keep my skills up.

  • @guidichris
    @guidichris 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Please come and try to take anything I bought legally. If I'm a felon anyway I have nothing to loose. I have built ARs from stripped receivers. Without some machine tools, converting that to a full auto receiver is not readily doable. Incidentally, that means that any block of metal is a machine gun, which is total bs.

    • @user-iy6de7qi1r
      @user-iy6de7qi1r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I've been a machinist for better than fifty years, People like me design and manufacture everything that everyone needs.

    • @davidarmstrong132
      @davidarmstrong132 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-iy6de7qi1r I like collecting the plastic bags we are forced to buy, and turn them into 8x5x2 plastic yard blocks really pretty and ready for milling, low decay yARD ART,

  • @user-iy6de7qi1r
    @user-iy6de7qi1r 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    "Readily convertible?" "Here, you do it, show me". I'm a machinist by trade, does that chunk of aluminum or steel qualify? I guess I own "airplane engines and trucks" because I've got a ton of various metals in my machine shop. I should be a millionaire!

    • @AndreS_-df2nw
      @AndreS_-df2nw 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those are unrealized gains, ya know

  • @mccjoe01
    @mccjoe01 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Almost forgot. They sure get a lot of mileage out of the phrase "shall not be infringed" clear as day and twice as bright. but somehow they just cant wrap thier little pea brains around the fact that they have no authority to do what they are attempting.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Apparently, they do. They were created by our elected representatives.

    • @Macdonald-we4gx
      @Macdonald-we4gx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@aquariumdude7829but they dont have any authority there just doing it cause they can get away with it the citizens need to stand up together and demand there rights and get of the tyrants by force

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Macdonald-we4gx Dude, how many times do you have to hear this? It isn't just the "tyrants." It is the very large number of people who are voting for them and want all this to continue.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Macdonald-we4gx Dude, the "force" crap is simply not going to happen. This is the real world. Not the high school cafeteria. Nobody is going to shoot it out with the cops over this. We are adults here. Not a bunch of kids. Nobody wants to go to prison for life.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Macdonald-we4gx Mac, just stop already.

  • @billmiller6274
    @billmiller6274 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I keep saying readily has to be defined. Drilling a hole is not readily. A Glock is readily but you have to have the magic part. Locking roller h&k rifles and aug are readily convertible with the right parts.

  • @life_with_bernie
    @life_with_bernie 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    It sounds to me, and I readily admit that the sum total of my legal training is as a sea lawyer during my Navy years, that since the court has already ruled that arms in common use cannot be banned, then this argument can be turned around and used as a way to strike down the machinegun portion of the NFA since machine guns would then become "in common use".

    • @Hunpecked
      @Hunpecked 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      A Supreme Court with a majority of Democrat-appointed justices could overrule that precedent in a heartbeat. A President Harris could pack the court or wait for Justices Thomas and Alito to die/retire. The Second Amendment could be gutted in less than 4 years.

  • @Eddie87Grant
    @Eddie87Grant 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    William, I thank you for going down this path of reasoning which gives me something strongly to think about!!!

  • @NickFrom1228
    @NickFrom1228 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We need to include language that says readily converted means something done in under one minute.

    • @stevene6482
      @stevene6482 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I wouldn’t even give them that. Readily converted should mean that no part needs to be physically altered in any way. The necessary parts would just need to be swapped in to replace the semi automatic parts. If anything needs drilled, fitted, etc then it should not be considered readily convertible.

    • @TheStupidestBitch
      @TheStupidestBitch 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We need language that abolishes the ATF and any future attempts to start unelected federal agencies like it. No amount of language is going to make them stop trying to take your guns. It's their sole purpose.

    • @GarrettBShaw
      @GarrettBShaw 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@stevene6482Agreed. Readily convertible should be the same as installing an aftermarket trigger. If it's just a part you can remove and replace with a different part that's readily convertible.
      If it requires you to actually make physical changes to individual parts and components beyond just switching them out for different parts and components that is not readily convertible.

    • @johnjohnsn7633
      @johnjohnsn7633 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​​@@stevene6482:
      "Readily-convertible" originated with the .30 Caliber M1 Carbine, which could be "readily converted" to Selective-Fire by simple substitution of parts from the M2 Carbine. No modifications whatsoever required; just substitutions and additions (won't go into details here). With that established, the BATF ... now, BATFE ... has gone overboard in claiming *all* Semi-Automatic-ONLY firearms to be "Readily-convertible."

    • @stevene6482
      @stevene6482 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnjohnsn7633 thanks for the info

  • @gousmc1983
    @gousmc1983 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Absolutely NOT a single hole, two holes, a wider FCG pocket, the parts for such pocket, and perhaps a different bolt. It's not as simple as "hey bubba, get me a drill!"

  • @brucelytle1144
    @brucelytle1144 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Weighing in here.
    Yeah, one hole being drilled can 'convert' an AR-15 into a machine gun. But you'd better be a REALLY good Machinist, with a VERY accurate and precise milling machine to do it! Then ya gotta make or purchase a few other parts to complete the job.

    • @TheStupidestBitch
      @TheStupidestBitch 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So, in summary: No, just drilling a hole is not enough to make it a machine gun. The hole is to accommodate the parts required to make it a machine gun. Furthermore, most of the semi-auto fire control groups lack the features required to work with the parts that make an AR-15 capable of select fire. So, considering that anyone who has bought a complete semi-auto AR-15 off the shelf not only has to modify it with precision tooling, they also have to acquire regulated parts that are not readily available, these guns are not "readily converted" to full auto. This hypothetical rule is a huge stretch (like all the other rules) and is just another way to scare AR-15 owners into doing something stupid like sending in amnesty request forms or asking permission to own their own property.

  • @rossfelton1955
    @rossfelton1955 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks

  • @jameskennerly9748
    @jameskennerly9748 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Appreciate your insight in this matter!

  • @davidncw4613
    @davidncw4613 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ty

  • @ElementofKindness
    @ElementofKindness 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The NFA is rapidly becoming inconsequential, and the ATF has become more of a burden than a benefit to The People. It's only a matter of time before legislators have to listen to the harm being done to citizens.

  • @RC-NW
    @RC-NW 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I believe this is the exact reason why the ATF is just kinda going through the motions except on the 80% rule. Because if they can get their way with that they can achieve 99% of their goal.

  • @afkafk129
    @afkafk129 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This would just mean they’re in common use and cannot be banned.

  • @gobymoby
    @gobymoby 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Any a cautionary observation, Colorado's new ghost gun statute takes things even further. The way I read it, ANY "gun part" made by an individual would get you into trouble. It does not seem to cover only frames/receivers. Make a pistol grips or stock and score a fime and misdemeanor.

  • @markcrook1292
    @markcrook1292 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The proper location of said hole is needed along with a shear pin and selector switch. I have not seen where these are readily available.

  • @stephengrippen2981
    @stephengrippen2981 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    11:00 The receiver must also be milled precisely to accommodate an automatic sear. Not necessarily an easy task. And good luck getting your hands on an automatic sear.

    • @presidentmerkinmuffley6769
      @presidentmerkinmuffley6769 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Several places sell both A1 and A2 fcgs....

    • @Ferd414
      @Ferd414 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Making an auto-sear that will "do the job" (even if it might need to be replaced frequently) is a matter of a few minutes with a pair of tin snips, an empty Campbell's Soup can, and some filing or sandpaper work to fine-tune it.

    • @DirtDicular
      @DirtDicular 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I call bullshit. There's a tool called "80%arms easy jig. And can be precisely milled VERY EASILY in minutes. The fire control parts are for sale every day. No background check or anything. Research bro. The lawyer here is actually genius. And it's true. An ar15 Is closer to a real machine gun than an 80% lower receiver is to a civilian version weapon 🫡🇺🇸🗽 and FREEDOM LOVES IT!!!!!!!!

  • @winterhorse290
    @winterhorse290 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I also have some metal scrap that I’m sure I could convert to a working firearm. Do they want me to put serial numbers and register that? Can I take a pile of pipe and pieces of metal to a gun buy back?

  • @robertlawson698
    @robertlawson698 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Back in '86 when the Firearms Owners"Protection"Act was passed, which further restricted machine gun ownership for"civilians"(peasants),we were warned that semiautos will almost certainly be next. And here we are!

    • @johnjohnsn7633
      @johnjohnsn7633 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I tried to tell the NRA that before Amdt.777 was illegally voted into FOPA'86. Their response was there were not enough machine gun owners for the ILA to "waste" their "capital" to oppose. I warned them against taking no actions would "come back to bite 'em in the ass." They weren't moved. After passage of the "Assault Weapons Ban of 1994", I called them back up and told them "While I won't say 'I told you so', I will say 'You heard it here *FIRST* '!"

  • @Drew-tj8gz
    @Drew-tj8gz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If only they targeted the REAL CRIMINALS. WE ARE NOT THE THREAT. WE JUST WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE.

  • @kidzgehlhoff3965
    @kidzgehlhoff3965 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dear God, I am so sorry! I have watched MANY of your videos, and I just noticed (tough I saw it it previous it just didn't click) you have a triangle flag in a case! I am so sorry for whoever that represents. I value that soul, and am grateful for you willingness to continue to strive to protect our constitution!

  • @OMGrobWTF
    @OMGrobWTF 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This would apply to pistols like the Glock as well. Unless they view the dimensional differences in slide rail and slide rail channels as completely different when it comes to frames/receivers.

  • @winterhorse290
    @winterhorse290 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I finished an 80% ar a while back. Spent 75$ on it. I bought 6 completed ar lowers for 49$ each. Why did I spend the extra money on a 80%?

    • @Pappy7064
      @Pappy7064 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You meant to say you screwed up finishing that 80% lower so it was useless and threw it away, right? I mean what else could you do with a screwed-up piece of aluminum. That's why you bought the other lowers. cough cough, wink wink, nudge nudge

  • @darrellwoods5961
    @darrellwoods5961 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Got a Question.? How the Hell the Feds Gonna Know if I Own a Unserialized 80% Frame/ Lower/ whatever????

    • @ericsfishingadventures4433
      @ericsfishingadventures4433 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Somehow be unfortunate enough to get caught with one, or they might start kicking doors too that wouldn't surprise me.

    • @Pappy7064
      @Pappy7064 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If you purchased the 80% frame / lower they more than likely have the receipts (paper trail). I think we've seen this already.

    • @brianstewart1047
      @brianstewart1047 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      From all the records the got from the sellers of 80% sellers

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      One of your friends or neighbors will rat you out for cash for tips.

    • @Macdonald-we4gx
      @Macdonald-we4gx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@aquariumdude7829then they need to be done away with bud

  • @eugenehall1190
    @eugenehall1190 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Tyrants

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes, everybody is a "tyrant," including your boss and my brother's ex-wife! 😂

    • @Macdonald-we4gx
      @Macdonald-we4gx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@aquariumdude7829they want to disarm us for new world order and enslave us what do u not get about that

  • @roddecker1900
    @roddecker1900 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    By definition a fire arm is that part holding cartridge when its fired--- the upper. Like a bolt gun , you dont register a tree. Was a set up from way back.drilling that Xtra hole has to be precisely done. THEN you need whole skew of oth. PARTS I DONT HAVE ONE .LIVE IN THE WRECK DUMCRET STATE ca.

  • @bradc7720
    @bradc7720 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I suppose you could make the case that a block of metal or plastic the size of 1 inch by 8 inches could be a machine gun even with no machining to it.

    • @ralphm6901
      @ralphm6901 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I could turn my car into a "machine gun" be scribing a copy of the "autokeycard" image on it.

  • @racinracecars3744
    @racinracecars3744 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hey now that it's over you can make videos on it again.

  • @thomascopeland402
    @thomascopeland402 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Disband the ATF? Never going to happen. We need to live with it. Sucks…

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you. At least someone else here recognizes reality, unpleasant as that may be.

  • @InkwellFoto
    @InkwellFoto 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Armed Scholar = click bait.
    I did go out and buy two new lowers today. Probably will never make one.

  • @trapperjohn7571
    @trapperjohn7571 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For clarification, the only difference between a civilian semi-auto AR-15 receiver and a fully automatic milspec receiver is a single pin hole that could be drilled out at any point after the receiver is finished and in use. Manufacturers sometimes convert their AR-15 receivers to machine guns in this way.
    However, there are AR-15 designs on the market that can't be easily converted. In the early days of the AR-15s commercial life Colt was afraid of something like this and made receivers that are not convertible to machine guns. I can also think of several ways to render a receiver incapable of accepting the milspec auto parts that could be employed on receivers already in the wild
    The bigger concern from a legal standpoint, I would think, is the fact that it's already possible to convert most semi-auto AR-15s to machine guns by virtue of a drop-in auto sear such as the lightning link without any receiver modifications at all

  • @user-zz3uv3ri5b
    @user-zz3uv3ri5b 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    my F150 isn't a F150 without tires. most things are not what they are until they are. a piece of furniture in the box isn't a coffee table. hey ATF stop pissing on our heads while telling us it is raining

  • @olaf_sonofrasmus7673
    @olaf_sonofrasmus7673 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    We don't talk about the 3rd hole

    • @Pappy7064
      @Pappy7064 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hole? What hole? I don't see no stinkin hole.

    • @keltingr2612
      @keltingr2612 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You sound like my wife....

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Is this a golf question?

    • @Pappy7064
      @Pappy7064 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@keltingr2612 I’m going to leave this comment alone out of respect to you and your wife but I could’ve gone there…no not there.

    • @Pappy7064
      @Pappy7064 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@aquariumdude7829 Yes Golf yep that’s it. The virtue’s of golf and how we should play golf with those new AW clubs

  • @hamletthaus3046
    @hamletthaus3046 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    7:12 - different guns have different ‘needs’ to become F/A. As an example AK’s/AR’s do need the third axis pin hole drilled on the receiver. On an average AK a slot must be drilled into the starboard side guide rail to mate a male/female gap for the sear. On AR’s, it’s a little more tricky. The area behind the disconnect must be milled out of the frame to accept F/A parts. On AR’s depending on manufacturer, Colt for example has a ’blocking’ bar to prevent F/A parts from insertion. That must be milled/dremeled out of the way. AK’s easy. AR’s not (at least on Colts). I believe on old school Bushmasters this was not a problem?
    Bottom line is - arm up. Stockpile. Convert anything and everything you need to survive the inevitable collapse. F/A included. Stay in the shadows. Remain behind ever blade of grass. It’s coming. History shows us this.

    • @enchentez
      @enchentez 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Most AR lowers also have blocking bars designed into the walls of the trigger pocket to narrow the pocket down on the selector swircjh are so an auto sear cannot be installed.

  • @kenibnanak5554
    @kenibnanak5554 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes, ATF has already opined adding the missing hole to an AR frame converts it to a machine gun and courts have accepted that. So clearly allowing that to be extended to include AR frames and billets whose possessors MIGHT someday drill the missing hole is a threat. That potential would also apply to semi auto AKs that are also just one drilled hole away from being a fully automatic AK. You could also add the speculative definition to just about any semi-auto weapon as simply altering the disconnector would in most caseds make it capable of (uncontrollable) full auto fire.

  • @rosewinter8693
    @rosewinter8693 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @19:00 castle conscription.

  • @utoobuser206
    @utoobuser206 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This situation is exactly why all should have an unregistered for their own safety

  • @DavidSmith_W6DPS
    @DavidSmith_W6DPS 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is why we need great attorneys on our side and why elections are important due to the appointment of federal judges. It is outrageous to pick and choose language from different section of law to modify meaning, but we need the cases filed in sympathetic courts to combat the practice.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed. Elections are everything. That's what we should focus on.

    • @Macdonald-we4gx
      @Macdonald-we4gx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@aquariumdude7829😂 nope elections are solving nothing the people need to stand up cause the democrats just cheat in the elections cause there like demons

  • @CandyGramForMongo_
    @CandyGramForMongo_ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That’s great! Then they would have no choice but to (rightfully) declare the NFA/GSA/HA unconstitutional.

  • @lour7753
    @lour7753 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great explanation. There are AR-15 lower receivers out there that have the fire control pocket milled exactly like an M-16 lower receiver minus the auto sear hole. So for those receivers, drilling a hole for the auto sear is all you would need to convert to an M-16 by their definition..

    • @bradcraig5111
      @bradcraig5111 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You would still need the M-16 bcg and an auto sear.

    • @enchentez
      @enchentez 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Drilling that third hole is a precision operation. The tolerances for that auto sear to function properly are very close.

  • @paulbingville6485
    @paulbingville6485 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, that cuts both ways. If all ARs are machine guns then, rather than being dangerous and unusual, machine guns are in common use for lawful purposes and should be removed from the NFA.

  • @johnb477
    @johnb477 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Disband the ATF
    Alcohol, Tabasco & firearms should not be regulated.
    Neither should my Copenhagen…

  • @allseeingguy5485
    @allseeingguy5485 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good luck 👍

  • @kevinberta8741
    @kevinberta8741 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    With the correct tools, a block of aluminum is readily convertible to a lower receiver so almost every machine shop in the US could be in possession of a weapon. The question becomes the definition of "readily" and how it applies to the average citizens that lack the special tools to do such a thing. In my opinion, readily should be considered tools that are in an average home. I don't think you finish a lower with a set of calipers, a drill and potentially a router.

  • @rcstl8815
    @rcstl8815 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The conversion is not as simple as "drilling a single hole" and is not all that needs to be done. The conversion requires at least three or four other parts. Parts that are not generally available to prevent this "simple" conversion.

    • @Ferd414
      @Ferd414 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The only "hard to get" part is the auto-sear itself. Everything - and I do mean *EVERYTHING* - else required can be had over-the-counter, with no questions asked. Until you drill that third hole, it's perfectly legal, and requires *NO* paperwork (unless you count the order form you fill out and send to the seller so they know what you want and where to ship it when the check clears) of any kind, to put *EVERYTHING* needed to be full-auto or burst mode EXCEPT the third hole and the auto-sear into your AR. Without that third hole and auto-sear, it is, and operates exactly like, any normal AR - one trigger pull, one bang. Everything but the auto-sear itself (and the hole you need to install it) is "just a part", and routinely gets sold as such. The total cost of the required parts (other than the auto-sear) to turn a "standard" AR into a three-round-burst capable weapon was, last time I looked, just under $40. For just a "full-auto", you don't need the burst cam, or the "follower"-equipped disconnector, so it costs even less. Buying the auto-sear requires proof that you've got the tax stamp, but the piece itself was listed as being available for under $10 from either of the two suppliers I found with a 10 second google search.

    • @lour7753
      @lour7753 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Not true. There are.AR-15 lowers with the fire control pocket milled just like an M-16. So for these lowers, the auto sear hole is all that’s required to convert to M-16 lower.

    • @rcstl8815
      @rcstl8815 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@lour7753 The third hole is one fifth of the items/mods needed. The standard fire control group has been neutered by shortening the disconnector and grinding a part off the hammer that the auto sear grabs.. The trigger part also has a convenient boss to keep the longer disconnector from fitting and working. And a different type of safety is required. Not simple and not readily available. You don't want to be that guy buying the other special parts unless you are or work for a 7/2 FFL. I just hope my description won't catch attention from the you-know-whos.

    • @rcstl8815
      @rcstl8815 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Ferd414 The auto sear is not a registered item. I believe you are thinking of the DIAS. That is serialized and had to be registered.

    • @rcstl8815
      @rcstl8815 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@lour7753 Again, not all are properly milled for the auto sear. A lot of manufacturers specifically narrow the rear part of the pocket to prevent conversion to avoid liability.

  • @tomliemohn624
    @tomliemohn624 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Automatic conversion takes about 45 minutes and a milling machine if I am doing a good job. If you do not have the tools, it would be either impossible or very difficult.

  • @badboysfpv1724
    @badboysfpv1724 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    First of all this will be stoped by the big court

    • @joejohnson4183
      @joejohnson4183 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That is what the anti gun people want you to believe so you will be complacent and not do anything like voting or supporting pro 2A gun groups .

  • @leonardswintek864
    @leonardswintek864 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They already know this and that is the long term plan

  • @ironoutrigger1
    @ironoutrigger1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a person has the right knowledge of exactly what new retail parts to purchase, unfortunately, yes, the "Drill one Hole" machine gun does exist. And that's not with either FRT, Lighting Link, or other gimmick.

  • @dougshellusn
    @dougshellusn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    @washingtongunlaw do a video on the Hoffman tactical Super Safety and the raid on Twinbros LLC.

  • @Drew-tj8gz
    @Drew-tj8gz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad I live in a gun friendly state ) Our local police support the 2 A )

  • @enchentez
    @enchentez 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You cannot just drill a single hole in an AR-15 lower receiver and turn it into a machinegun. The typical AR-15 lower receiver has "DENIAL BARS" built into the design of the trigger pocket that prevent installation of the necessary auto sear. This is why the trigger pocket walls have that weird shape in the back that narrow the trigger pocket at the position of the selector swirch instead of of just going straight back all the way to the takedown pin.
    One would have to mill out the "denial bars" -- no small trick, even with a router and an end mull, because of the proximity of the buffer tower to the area to be milled.
    These are NOT "readily convertible by just drilling a single hole.

  • @gedocowboy8484
    @gedocowboy8484 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That theory is ridiculous. So many things are readily convertible to an illegal state. Those that do it are breaking laws. Those items shouldn’t be held accountable, only the people.

  • @Motoguzzi2231
    @Motoguzzi2231 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The camel's nose, if readily converted is the criteria, how would the advent of 3D printers affect this interpretation. Would a spool of filament be covered?

  • @ik04
    @ik04 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Those sections and subsections must be removed or replaced with wording affirming the right to bear automatic weapons. Period.

  • @huntsman1771
    @huntsman1771 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is ridiculous. The supreme Court has affirmed that the second amendment is a individual inalienable Right. This means the people have not I REPEAT NOT! GIVEN THE FEDERAL , STATE ,COUNTY , AGENCY OR LOCAL GOVERNMENTS ANY POWER TO REGULATE OR PASS LAWS PERTAINING TO THIS RIGHT. If it's a individual inalienable Right it can not be taken away from the individual.

  • @average-joe-citizen1
    @average-joe-citizen1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does this track of thinking go down to the bag of soda and beer cans. They can be smelted down and poured into a mold or poured as an ingot that can be machined into a frame? Good luck trying that.

  • @kevinanderson2238
    @kevinanderson2238 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Same could apply to any Glock/clone, as the frame itself need not be modified to work with a FA upper.🧐
    Clearly something they will use...

  • @808redneckify
    @808redneckify 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel it's a little more than just drilling a single hole🙄

  • @mikemorgan9614
    @mikemorgan9614 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Exactly how they killed the Form 1 suppressor community.

  • @marko5766
    @marko5766 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The ATF won't stop until a shovel full of bauxite ore is considered a frame or receiver. Henry Bowman is a genius!

  • @drshadows1190
    @drshadows1190 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Where do i drill🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @simonerubino52
    @simonerubino52 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wouldn't that make a case for machine guns to be in common use? And then not to be able to restrict them. All of these Infringements are based out of the NFA.

  • @fredbrown5901
    @fredbrown5901 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This definitely exemplifies is the need to remove the NFA and strongly control the actions of the ATF.

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      So run for office then and try to accomplish both.

    • @Macdonald-we4gx
      @Macdonald-we4gx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@aquariumdude7829no because every one of there laws are already illegal people need to stand up

    • @Macdonald-we4gx
      @Macdonald-we4gx 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​we need them done away with sorry politics and voting or any of that will stop them only force

    • @aquariumdude7829
      @aquariumdude7829 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @Macdonald-we4gx Macdonald, at least of the people are voting for this and want it to continue. Many more simply don't care about guns at all. They have no interest in the gun rights versus gun control issue.

  • @ryantorstenson2406
    @ryantorstenson2406 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If it comes down to this, I would suggest we mill out our receivers at that exact spot where a hole can be drilled and mill it out in the shape of a triangle or something that disables the automatic. Function. After all, you cannot install a 1/8 inch pin into an area.That's been milled out into a one inch irregular shape like a Is triangle.

  • @marybethdavis4462
    @marybethdavis4462 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you know how it all works there more than 1 hole that needs to be done

  • @AllAboutSurvival
    @AllAboutSurvival 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The idea that the ATF could broaden its interpretation to potentially ban AR-15 lower receivers is a slippery slope that could lead to widespread disarmament.

  • @1moredayinmo
    @1moredayinmo 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Under the ATF's extremely liberal interpretation of "readily convertible" to, well anything, a simple block of aluminum of a certain dimension can be "readily converted" to a machine-gun. It just becomes a matter of how much time and/or how much tooling you decide to throw into it. Do I NEED a CNC mill to "convert" an aluminum block to a receiver? No. With enough time and simple hand tools it COULD be done...but taking a LOT of time and a certain level of skill. The ATF, along with every other "alphabet" agency of the government needs to be reigned in.

  • @timwilliam8045
    @timwilliam8045 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    🤣 What form will everyone need to fill out to reclaim those eventually?

  • @user-tv4qh2br7i
    @user-tv4qh2br7i 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does that mean an aluminum can is a machine gun. "can readily be made" is subjective. All I have to do is melt down soda cans into a block, cut a straight billet, get a jig and drill it out to have a reciever, then add other parts. Like, its not THAT hard.............LOL

  • @Guns.and.Mooneyes
    @Guns.and.Mooneyes 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks William Kirk

  • @44hawk28
    @44hawk28 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Here's the problem, first of all 80% receivers are nowhere close to being able to be readily altered to be a machine gun or a gun at all.
    And you cannot convert an AR-15 to an M16 merely by drilling a single hole. That is not possible.

  • @michaelgarrow3239
    @michaelgarrow3239 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Probably need to bring in UN forces to carry out something that big.

  • @rattlesnakecustoms2816
    @rattlesnakecustoms2816 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    07/02 here. Ive converted ar-15's to m-16's. Its not as simple as drilling the magical third hole. Theres more machining involved in the process.

    • @Ferd414
      @Ferd414 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only if you start with a narrow-throat lower.

    • @lour7753
      @lour7753 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Some AR-15’s are milled just like M-16’s minus the auto sear hole.

  • @Shlippi
    @Shlippi 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But hang on, if they make the leap that AR15 lowers could be an unfinished machine gun lower, and unfinished frames/receivers constitute firearms, wouldn't it be really easy to make the argument that AR15s are machine guns? If they make that argument, then since AR15s are the most popular rifle in the US, then they are vastly in common use. There is already precedent that the government can't ban what is in common use.

  • @slingerriggin5226
    @slingerriggin5226 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Looking forward to the day you don't have to finish you videos with "What's left of your Second Amendment Rights."

  • @tommcqueen3145
    @tommcqueen3145 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I get your theory. But do the lawyers that would be going before the Supreme Court know of it?

  • @Bj-en1qx
    @Bj-en1qx 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So would this apply to every glock frame generic of original that could have a switch dropped in? Does this mean anyone with an ak and a metal coathanger guilty of conspiracy?

  • @robertbrink3455
    @robertbrink3455 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any block of aluminum stock can be converted. Are they going to outlaw aluminum?

    • @Pappy7064
      @Pappy7064 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't give them any ideas...they are banning knives in the UK.

  • @georgemetropoulos9171
    @georgemetropoulos9171 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    not just 1 hole but you need the disconnector a special hammer , special bolt carrier, special safety and a couple other parts that are next to impossible to find

    • @Ferd414
      @Ferd414 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You haven't looked vary hard, apparently. A quick google brought me up 2 sources (that I spent the time to look at) in less than 30 seconds. The only "special" part (requiring paperwork) is the actual auto-sear. Everything else can be had for under 40 bucks, shipped to your doorstep, with no questions asked. (And no, you don't need a special bolt carrier unless you've got one of the neutered "colt half-moon" cut BCGs.

    • @lour7753
      @lour7753 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those parts are easy to purchase online

  • @NoOne-ck9tz
    @NoOne-ck9tz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Like, WTF, who Deleted my Comment?