Why Boeing Aircraft are FIRST Painted Green for Your Safety

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    All aircraft are born GREEN … to save your life! Enjoy this video and its fifty shades of green, ‘cause it’s #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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    0:00 Intro
    0:42 The Biggest Enemy of Aircraft
    2:18 The Fight Against Corrosion
    3:29 The Addition of Lamp Black
    4:28 Why Aircraft Interiors are Green?
    5:43 War Thunder
    6:53 Fifty Shades of Green
    8:15 Why (Not) Nude Airplanes?
    10:16 Airplanes Made of Composite Materials
    11:03 Why Not Black Airplanes?

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  • @NotWhatYouThink
    @NotWhatYouThink  ปีที่แล้ว +181

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      Hopefully my GeForce 9500 isn't on fire

    • @benlecluyse
      @benlecluyse ปีที่แล้ว +2

      😁

    • @Mavve69
      @Mavve69 ปีที่แล้ว +7

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    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  ปีที่แล้ว +21

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    • @ritz4411
      @ritz4411 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NotWhatYouThink bro, 49 seconds ago

  • @davidherbst
    @davidherbst ปีที่แล้ว +1930

    "But Russian manufacturers paint them in yellow. We're actually not sure why."
    Well, since the only reason to spend the money and effort to make the yellow zinc chromate green is worker safety, I think you found your answer.

    • @jayjay53313
      @jayjay53313 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      China painted their aircraft yellow too for the base color

    • @argonaut_aero
      @argonaut_aero ปีที่แล้ว +175

      @@jayjay53313 humans are replaceable…

    • @hugopnik3380
      @hugopnik3380 ปีที่แล้ว +118

      same with azbestos gas masks filters, "we need you to live now, not later"

    • @KurianfromIndia
      @KurianfromIndia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@argonaut_aero So are you replaceable .

    • @tomasgogashvily5350
      @tomasgogashvily5350 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It's the primer and the quality of primer varies. A220 aircraft has a dark green primer and are treated with chemicals before applying it. Composite materials inside the wings are of different colour, yellow, due to fuel presence. The color difference is the chemical composition of the paint. In any case, the primer has many uses, all serve to protect the metal alloy.

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 ปีที่แล้ว +1175

    Everyone knows a new car smell, *but are you ready for a new plane smell?*

    • @Mavve69
      @Mavve69 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      👃🏻 sniff

    • @callmelactose
      @callmelactose ปีที่แล้ว +31

      get ready for new train smell

    • @turiipipip1920
      @turiipipip1920 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      *get ready for a submarine smell*

    • @fil2337
      @fil2337 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Smells of sweaty technicians

    • @bearowen5480
      @bearowen5480 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I was a 757 captain flying a "redeye" trip from Las Vegas to Newark the night of the Millennial Changeover, with a New Year's Eve, December 31st 1999 departure, and a January 1st 2000 arrival. To make it more interesting, the airplane had just recently been delivered to my airline by Boeing, and had just 100 hours of accumulated flight time on it. It definitely had a very noticeable and distinctive "new plane smell" about it. So, the Millennial Moment with all the dire predictions of computer failures, and a brand new, relatively untried airplane under me, what could possibly go wrong? Answer, nothing. It was a completely routine and uneventful flight in a gorgeous, brand new airplane. I actually got paid to do it!

  • @DrVictorVasconcelos
    @DrVictorVasconcelos ปีที่แล้ว +549

    Also, Alclad is "corrosion-free" because it's 𝙖𝙡𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙙𝙮 𝙘𝙤𝙧𝙧𝙤𝙙𝙚𝙙. Corrosion is literally the conversion of a pure metal into a stable metal oxide, and Alclad's "protective layer" is, as you said, aluminum oxide.

    • @exMuteKid
      @exMuteKid ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yes, but not all stable metal oxides are corrosion resistant to the same degree as aluminum oxide. I don't recall the exact reason for it however but I think it was due to the hardness of AlO3 compared to others like copper oxide and also the fact that acid rain won't dissolve aluminum oxide but will dissolve copper oxide

    • @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq
      @CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Much like stainless steel

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Just don’t put mercury on it…
      (It’s illegal in the US to carry liquid mercury through aviation security.)

    • @riseegan2021
      @riseegan2021 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NickCBax dude who the fuck even has liquid mercury in the first place unless your a chemist

    • @DrVictorVasconcelos
      @DrVictorVasconcelos ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@NickCBaxThat's not true. It's perfectly legal... to carry a mercury barometer or thermometer if you're a representative of a government weather bureau or similar official agency, or to carry a mercury thermometer for personal use in a checked baggage, as of 49 CFR § 175.10. Special conditions apply.

  • @DanielBoger
    @DanielBoger ปีที่แล้ว +619

    While black paints impact on the air conditioning is fairly irrelevant at cruising altitude, the UV light absorption and associated heat is not. Parts heat up and expand due to that heat, from either UV radiation or friction, then those parts change shape. That is why typically aircraft companies only allow white paint on Wings and control surfaces. You can design for the way different colors cause your wings to act, but it is much simpler just make everyone have white wings and make the airline figure out how to incorporate the white wings into the the paint design.

    • @joonaskali2337
      @joonaskali2337 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you have the money to buy a private jet, you have the money to service it

    • @f36443
      @f36443 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      We operate the only two black ATR72-500 in the world, there are no more wear and tear on the AC than any other color. It's rubbish. They get a lot of photos taken, though :)

    • @mambofox4333
      @mambofox4333 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly what I was about to say. Alternatively Americans naked planes would suffer from the least thermal expansion.

    • @rrevolver1
      @rrevolver1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah, the real reason aircraft aren't painted black is because American police would shoot it and sprinkle some crack over it

    • @chimkinNuggz
      @chimkinNuggz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what they all say when they try and hide their racism😭

  • @Captain_Rhodor
    @Captain_Rhodor ปีที่แล้ว +1221

    "Which is equivalent to about eight passengers, or six Americans. I'm joking of course. Three Americans."
    He's out of line, but he's right.

    • @theshinywaffle
      @theshinywaffle ปีที่แล้ว +47

      This got me dead 💀

    • @jagrathty2743
      @jagrathty2743 ปีที่แล้ว

      And then a picture of fat man.

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea ปีที่แล้ว +63

      It's so lonely being a skinny American.

    • @0my
      @0my ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣🤣

    • @Cyco2k5
      @Cyco2k5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Out of which line? The McDonalds drive trough line?

  • @igatowski
    @igatowski ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    As an American, I found your joke about our weight to be hilarious, well done.

    • @Drakelett
      @Drakelett ปีที่แล้ว +104

      As a non-American, I also found it hilarious.

    • @austinrobinson5995
      @austinrobinson5995 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Drakelett As another American, it's sad but so accurate...

    • @bearowen5480
      @bearowen5480 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      When I was flying international trips into and out of Japan, for preflight weight and balance calculations, we used 170 lbs average weight for each American citizen, and 120 lbs for each Japanese citizen. That was twenty years ago. I don't know what the numbers are now.

    • @johnhunter7244
      @johnhunter7244 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@bearowen5480 Americans are also taller on average

    • @d_kortman
      @d_kortman ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@johnhunter7244 say so. I’m 6’7” 😂

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Aircraft Factory Workers: **get cancer from work**
    Radium Dial Workers: *“First time?”*

  • @rjmercer042
    @rjmercer042 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Just as an aside, it used to be (no longer sure if it is the case because it has been a while) that one of the primer coats on US nuclear submarines was yellow. Basically the same yellow that you see in one part of the clip here in the paint can. This got covered by a layer of adhesive and then the tile coating... but for a while we all walked around singing the Beatles song ;)

  • @philippe.139
    @philippe.139 ปีที่แล้ว +260

    The SR-71 Blackbird, for example, was painted black because the color actually helped to radiate more heat away from the plane as air drag and compression heated it up to immense temperatures

    • @dianapennepacker6854
      @dianapennepacker6854 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Huh that's cool. I figured it had something to do with a type of radiation since they fly so high. Free particles or whatever.

    • @fourdisconnectedcircles9386
      @fourdisconnectedcircles9386 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I though it was a really dark purple?

    • @kotorandcorvid4968
      @kotorandcorvid4968 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@fourdisconnectedcircles9386 no, pitch black

    • @shrimpflea
      @shrimpflea ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Technically it was not black. All the pilots called it the Habu not the Blackbird.

    • @daminox
      @daminox ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I have no idea who to believe in this conversation.

  • @brandonhenley3597
    @brandonhenley3597 ปีที่แล้ว +151

    "About 1200 pounds less, which is equivalent to about 8 passengers, or 6 Americans - I'm joking of course... 3 Americans!" I did not expect to crack up during this video. Well done, sir.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  ปีที่แล้ว +22

      😅👍🏼

    • @Mooondoggy
      @Mooondoggy ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@NotWhatYouThink I'm from the UK and once travelled around Europe (pre-brexit). I met lots of people and I remember some girls in Croatia asking me, while giggling, if everyone in Britain was fat. I was like nah that's America! Then I got back to England and all I could see was fatties all around me.

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least the video clip showed a hot chick, so I definitely wasn't offended at all.

    • @geeman1293
      @geeman1293 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guffawed!

    • @ChicagoMel23
      @ChicagoMel23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We aren’t all fat in the US

  • @robertzeurunkl8401
    @robertzeurunkl8401 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I work for an airline company just across the runway from American's Tulsa Heavy Maintenance facility, and I know a bunch of American Airlines A&P and engineering guys. They tell me that the reason American started painting their aircraft is because the carbon fiber body aircraft MUST be painted to protect the material from the elements. But American did not want half their fleet in one livery, and the other half in another, so they started painting all the aircraft to keep the look uniform across the entire fleet.

    • @RSGTomcat
      @RSGTomcat ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The UV light from the sun breaks down the epoxy resin holding the composite together. UV is much harsher at altitude where planes fly. It's already hard to predict the residual strength of damaged composites, trying to account for widespread damage for residual strength and flight safety would be more cost than it's worth. Better to paint it and prevent it altogether.

    • @Power5
      @Power5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he said that in the video.
      as for other comment, hyper cars run around with no coating. Hell the Toyota Yaris GR had a raw CF roof. So not sure how a super expensive 787 could be constructed with a CF epoxy that cannot handle UV.

    • @jamesrichardson645
      @jamesrichardson645 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Power5 It is not raw carbon fibre. It has a clear coat.

    • @Power5
      @Power5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamesrichardson645 yeah I remembered incorrectly. Been a while since I watched a video on it. It is a forged CF roof but then they wrapped it with a fake looking CF weave type wrap for reasons.

    • @jordanwardle11
      @jordanwardle11 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Power5 the difference of 30,000 ft of atmosphere. more uv gets absorbed

  • @Panthera_Leo_
    @Panthera_Leo_ ปีที่แล้ว +42

    It's surprising just how often airplane's paint gets stripped off and then painted back on

  • @kens.213
    @kens.213 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The green on the exterior of Boeing planes is an acrylic coating that protects the skin panels during the assembly process. It gets stripped off prior to painting. All aluminum exterior panels are anodized, which forms a layer off oxidation that protects the top layer of each skin panel. Anodizing is used extensively in aircraft manufacturing.

  • @smileygladhands
    @smileygladhands ปีที่แล้ว +105

    9:10 I see what you did there, and I'm appalled. That's TWO Americans, buddy! Give us the credit we deserve!

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      😅

    • @scruffydarealog2632
      @scruffydarealog2632 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Americans may be fat but you have to be able to tell the difference between 1 obese person and 2 fat people. It's basic algebra over here smh.

    • @aristoclesathenaioi4939
      @aristoclesathenaioi4939 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on the age of the American. Usually the older we get, the heavier we get, but the rule is not hard and fast or even fat-free.

    • @stormer9763
      @stormer9763 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      America must always be number 1

    • @jamielonsdale3018
      @jamielonsdale3018 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@stormer9763 Somoa has them beat cold. The average person from Somoa makes an average American stop and go 'oh daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn', and the bigger ones often provoke a 'oh heeeeeell naaaaaaaaah'.
      However, you can still blame America for that one though.
      As a result of a trade deal, Somoa imports an absolute ASSLOAD of turkey butts from the US. Turkey butts are extremely fatty.

  • @TheEgg185
    @TheEgg185 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My favorite part was the C° 🤝 F°. I'm glad that they can agree on at least one thing. 11:43

    • @jimcaufman2328
      @jimcaufman2328 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The c and f scales are equal at minus 40.

  • @tommosx5698
    @tommosx5698 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    5:34 ahh yeah the world famous bomber the f4U corsair

  • @CraneArmy
    @CraneArmy ปีที่แล้ว +85

    you also have to paint CF because epoxy is UV sensitive.
    and a lot of places you see "that carbon fiber" look, have extra steps to cover the CF in something not transparent to UV but translucent for visible light (which is more expensive than paint)
    that or they make it out of CF, and then use a hydrographic water transfer to cover it with a picture of CF, so you think you are seeing CF, and it is CF, but your arnt actually seeing the CF.

    • @davidvavra9113
      @davidvavra9113 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep about the epoxy and UV
      Former wooden boat builder here.

    • @19krpm
      @19krpm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% There are even manufacturing process control specifications that regulate when we can open doors and what type of light bulbs are installed in areas that produce aerospace composite parts. Raw exposed carbon is rarely left unprimed and relegated to areas of the inner structure that will rarely if ever be exposed to sunlight. If a part is suspected to have been UV damaged an acetone rub test is conducted where if the white gauze develops any sort of greenish black residue from degrading resin, the part will be rejected for assembly and scrapped.

  • @muskiet8687
    @muskiet8687 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    What gets missed here is that the carbon fiber re-inforced plastic of the 787 needs to be painted because it will degrade under the UV rays of sunlight, so that would be the reason you won't see pretty black carbon fiber planes.

    • @JeremyLogan
      @JeremyLogan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hate it when you're watching one of your favorite education channels on a topic you know a little bit about, and just see them get things wrong. Makes you wonder how much else they get wrong.

    • @MeppyMan
      @MeppyMan ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JeremyLogan yep. Same with news stories. I grew up in aviation and most stuff you have to take with a grain of salt.
      That’s why I love the channels by actual pilots though. Just gotta pick your source.

    • @grizzomble
      @grizzomble ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep for the best accuracy seek the channels of actual professional pilots, scientists, doctors, historians. This channel speculates a bit, but it seems pretty accurate overall.

    • @MrRobarino
      @MrRobarino ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be specific, Carbon Fiber is NOT affected by UV radiation, but the epoxy matrix composite used to bond it all together is.

  • @nakirby
    @nakirby ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The green tinted coating on new unpainted Boeing aircraft is a temporary acrylic coating. The individual skin panels come already coated from suppliers. This is standard for almost all aluminum sheet metal.
    The corrosion protection primer BMS 10-11 comes in both green and yellow. I have many pairs of jeans stained with the stuff.

  • @rager1969
    @rager1969 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought the Aloha Air accident was due to repeated stress due to many more rakeoff/landing cycles that a short distance aircraft experiences compared to industry norms.

  • @bearowen5480
    @bearowen5480 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    As a college kid in the 1960s, I worked in a paint shop at Boeing's Renton plant, building 727s, 720s, and C-135 "looking glass" versions of the 707. Everything that came through our shop was painted zinc chromate green, but Boeing referred to it as SRF, meaning solvent resistant finish, no reference to corrosion resistance which it must have also been.

  • @RSGTomcat
    @RSGTomcat ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What you are seeing is the primer coating.
    While the yellow/green/and sometimes brown color of these primer coatings come from the added chromate corrosion inhibitors (Barium Chromate and Strontium Chromate are modern choices), the primary function of this coating is not to be the main corrosion inhibition mechanism.
    Aluminums are already treated with a chromate based chemical conversion coat BEFORE this green coating is applied. They've simply added chromates to the primer in order to help corrosion performance even further. The main purpose of the coating is to adhere to the metal with a strong bond because paints and pigments generally do not. It is also designed to be abrasive resistant, scratch resistant, flake resistant, impact resistant, and it is intended to provide a physical barrier (not just chemical) to keep electrolytes and oxygen away from the aluminum metal. In the case of fuel tank interiors, it needs to also be chemically stable against the harmful fuel additives as well. Then the topcoat goes on which protects the plane even further, though that's the layer that's primarily intended to be pigmented and provides less protection than the primer. The interiors are primed but not painted because the physical barrier against abrasion, scratching, moisture, and other mechanical damage from human interaction helps as well.

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:00: That green coating being washed off is a water soluble covering added before transit from Kansas to Washington. It is not zinc chromate primer.

  • @allys537
    @allys537 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the translucent green shades on the fuselages of the aluminum Boeings is an anodize coating, it's not paint. It's cleaned with a solvent before painting. The pastel green coating is Hexavalent chrome, which is very toxic... the white interior paint is epoxy white, used to help prevent corrosion from the lavatories leaking and such.

  • @JohnChuprun
    @JohnChuprun ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Carbon fiber construction is not corrosion immune as suggested here. You are right that it is much better, but there is still a huge importance placed on galvanic corrosion. Carbon fiber is conductive afterall, so dissimilar materials can pose a huge problem. However, it is a big difference in the amount of money spent combating corrosion like you mentioned.

    • @ska042
      @ska042 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Galvanic corrosion requires different approaches to combat it though, so I guess it's a bit off topic for this video. Also, if you want to be pedantic, usually with galvanic corrosion the carbon fiber remains totally intact - it's the metal parts (like fasteners) connected to the carbon fiber parts that degrade, if the plane hasn't been constructed properly to mitigate it.

  • @maxstrawn3788
    @maxstrawn3788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I made parts for Boeing, fairings, molar flares, lens housings ect. that green exterior layer is a semi-gummy protective layer to help resist scratches. We would polish the parts to a high shine on the exterior face, and paint the anti corrosion color on the inside (which always smelled like roasted peanuts to me for some reason) and then spray the polished side with this gummy green paint and then wrap in blue film and foam for shipping. At the 8 minute mark they are hosing the plane down to reveal the polished exterior side with what probably Acetone which is what we would use if we messed up the protective coating and had to spray again. Just wish the job paid more, was a good gig but doesn't matter much if it doesn't pay the bills.

  • @Greatdome99
    @Greatdome99 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The dark green you see on 737 fuselages on freight cars and prior to assembly is a temporary coating which is washed off before painting, not zinc chromate primer.

  • @temmiethetem468
    @temmiethetem468 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Air New Zealand paints the first aircraft of each model series black, I.E the first A320 to enter service was black, all other A320 are white.

    • @d.jensen5153
      @d.jensen5153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every Electron rocket starts out black and ends up white...due to ice. 🤪

  • @annoymouse890
    @annoymouse890 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Which is equivalent to 6 Americans, I'm joking of course, 3 Americans" killed me

  • @mopardoctor9966
    @mopardoctor9966 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Heat does affect aircraft structures. When the B-29 was built in Georgia during WWII the plant had to be air-conditioned. The heat was bad for the workers and the aluminum expanded too much resulting in loose rivets when the aluminum was cold.

  • @JayJayAviation
    @JayJayAviation ปีที่แล้ว +18

    10:17 If I’m not mistaken, the reason the rudder is painting is so that it’s perfectly calibrated in the factory and can’t do so if it’s painted in the regular paint shop like everything else. The primary reason is not that it’s a composite

    • @AgentOffice
      @AgentOffice ปีที่แล้ว

      Paint on a plane weighs like a ton

    • @JayJayAviation
      @JayJayAviation ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AgentOffice Did you read my comment?

    • @AgentOffice
      @AgentOffice ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JayJayAviation yes I was agreeing, they need to balance that weight

    • @JayJayAviation
      @JayJayAviation ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AgentOffice I meant the calibration of the rudder deflection

    • @JeremyLogan
      @JeremyLogan ปีที่แล้ว

      Fiber parts have to be painted a light color or the sun will degrade the epoxy. This has nothing to do with calibration, that's why god invented trim tabs.

  • @scottcates
    @scottcates ปีที่แล้ว +10

    At times, the different colors of zinc chromate were used to indicate how many coats of primer had been applied. Yellow might have been first, followed by a coat of green, for example.

    • @100GTAGUY
      @100GTAGUY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could also indicate missed patches/uneven application as the yellow will show up a bit more readily.

  • @skibidabndada6683
    @skibidabndada6683 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The air newzealand planes look sick

  • @kstricl
    @kstricl ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pretty cool seeing WestJet being used as the painting example. They always have a few 737's parked near the vehicle exit at YEG terminal; and I know an instrument tech that works for them.

  • @Abhi-fx3gb
    @Abhi-fx3gb ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:14 I love how those planes in production are Ryanair lol

  • @NoOne-dz8pd
    @NoOne-dz8pd ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "I'm joking of course... 3 Americans" lmfao

  • @driftguy5415
    @driftguy5415 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    ryanair landing gear is made out of bedrock

    • @eidwsatan9254
      @eidwsatan9254 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      hhahaah ryanair land bad hahah sooo funny hahahahh

    • @robbiemercury889
      @robbiemercury889 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eidwsatan9254 I can’t tell if your serious or sarcastic

  • @fredo0084
    @fredo0084 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your humor as always gets me

  • @toastyyyxd
    @toastyyyxd ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "which is equivalent to 8 passengers, or -6 americans- 3 americans" 😂😂💀

    • @brenatevi
      @brenatevi ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I heard 3 Americans.

    • @StarscreamX404
      @StarscreamX404 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *3 'muricans

    • @majid7925
      @majid7925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brutal hahahaha

    • @toastyyyxd
      @toastyyyxd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brenatevi Ah I misclicked 8 instead of 3 thanks for the heads up

  • @hungryweebsg
    @hungryweebsg ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Me when war thunder: -1000 silver lion

  • @BritishBeachcomber
    @BritishBeachcomber ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Mach 2 Concorde was always white to keep it cool. It still stretched 6 to 10 inches in length due to this thermal expansion.

    • @DarthObscurity
      @DarthObscurity ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because of friction at high speeds not the sun lmfao

    • @martinwilson7246
      @martinwilson7246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and the Captain's cap can be seen forever trapped in the now long-shrunk gap behind his seat in Barbados' airport museum example :)

  • @fahey5719
    @fahey5719 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Small world, I was suggested this video while waiting for the first coat of greenish yellow zinc chromate aluminum primer to dry on a batch of my Guitar amplifier chassis and panels.

  • @BlessedSeal
    @BlessedSeal ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I want to see a rgb plane because disco and balanced speculations for “durability”

  • @FreedomfixerFlying
    @FreedomfixerFlying ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Boeing aircraft you are referring to are actually are coated with a lacquer to protect the outside metal from scratches during the manufacture and transportation. It's referred to as Spray Lac or Spray Lat, depending who you ask.This coating is removed just before the airplane is painted. Even after first test flights. This is why airplanes can be seen flying with this coating on.

  • @flatbill2
    @flatbill2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So that dark green coating on the exterior of Boeing airplanes it's called a temporary protective coating "TPC" as you included, It is not a paint it's removable with solvent. Is to protect the thin clad aluminum on the exterior during manufacturing. Typically Yellow corrosion protection is used in fuel tank areas, green and on fuel tank areas.

  • @fhandab8621
    @fhandab8621 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when you started the Warthunder section of the video, i was thinking "ugh not again'' and i was about to change to a different video, but when you said Warthunder, it struck! i play that all the time! not even 5 minutes away!

  • @smoke4287
    @smoke4287 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And to think you got popular with your shorts, this was far more informative than any half hour show on the discovery channel, good job.

  • @petrolhead002
    @petrolhead002 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for answering one of the questions I always wanted to know the answer to

  • @starwarzchik112
    @starwarzchik112 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Simple. The green plumage is the hatchling colors. When they mature they’ll take on the adult coloration.

  • @wk961
    @wk961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been wondering this since my childhood!!!!! Thank you!!!!

  • @edwinwalker9185
    @edwinwalker9185 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m an a&p apprentice and work mostly on 40-50yo aircraft. A lot of them have the yellow primer but we clean and then spray the surfaces with green primer following a coat of dinotrol. It’s amazing how little corrosion these planes have

    • @tomast9034
      @tomast9034 ปีที่แล้ว

      dinitrol? have some spray cans for the cars we have here :D

  • @Kaslidaughterofchaos
    @Kaslidaughterofchaos ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the biggest grin on my face because something mentioned New Zealand.

  • @alexis_ianf
    @alexis_ianf ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just recently subscribed to your channel and glad to see aviation being focus on this weeks videos!

  • @endthemilkman
    @endthemilkman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:41 that railroad crossing is in my old city of renton, washington! Theres a park to the left and apartments in front.

  • @channelview8854
    @channelview8854 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched another video recently regarding the painting of aircraft. It said that tests by U.S. Army Air Corp during WWII concluded that painted aircraft required considerably less power to maintain cruising compared to unpainted, bare aluminum. The weight of the extra fuel required was a few times more than the weight of the paint. I'll have to search and try to find that link.

    • @jimcaufman2328
      @jimcaufman2328 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saw the same video. The paint around the rivets help smooth the air flow which reduces drag which requires less power which saves fuel.

  • @luke.415
    @luke.415 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The "3 Americans" joke made my day!! Thanks!!

  • @KyleSmith_53
    @KyleSmith_53 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    As someone who works for Boeing (spirit aerosystems) I see these big green “pickles” daily and deal with them constantly, the paint is still highly carcinogenic😅

    • @gingerbeardman238
      @gingerbeardman238 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats up cousin

    • @halweilbrenner9926
      @halweilbrenner9926 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this primer was illegal in Calfornia but that may have changed.

    • @blademan4043
      @blademan4043 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@halweilbrenner9926 the primer will be illegal in California. next year even for military uses. Hexavalent chromate and zinc chromate should be replaced with NC primers.

  • @viniciusgalvao6270
    @viniciusgalvao6270 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of your best videos!

  • @freezingalex9019
    @freezingalex9019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your shorts are alright, but I really love your long form videos!

  • @orsaz924
    @orsaz924 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:46 Aluminium Oxyde technically isn't corrosion-resistant. It is simply already oxydized (corroded) which means that it cannot be corroded any further

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB ปีที่แล้ว

      Al2O3 is corrosion resistant otherwise sodas and alcohols wouldn't last in them. There is a metal that will cause Al2O3 to act like rust does but I don't remember what it is.

    • @orsaz924
      @orsaz924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LadyAnuB What I meant is that it's corrosion resistant mainly because there no more material able to be corroded on the surface.
      Other than that, I believe NileRed showed the reaction you're talking about, but I can't remember

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@orsaz924 This strict way of looking at it is spot on. It's already pre-corroded to a good depth. 😀

    • @orsaz924
      @orsaz924 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LadyAnuB Yeah, true 😄

    • @scottcates
      @scottcates ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AKA PASSIVATION

  • @skibidabndada6683
    @skibidabndada6683 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    War thunder is a game were suffering is... The game. But we still play it because we like to suffer.

    • @julianj1355
      @julianj1355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fr sometime idk why I play

    • @skibidabndada6683
      @skibidabndada6683 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Saturated sausage but for those there are good alternatives like elden ring but war thunder is unique in my eyes

  • @paulgaither
    @paulgaither ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You never disappoint. Each video is a real banger.

  • @Suhhhhhhhhhhhhduuuuuuude
    @Suhhhhhhhhhhhhduuuuuuude 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    super cool seeing that old school American livery on the 737. I've actually piloted that aircraft shown at 0:20!

  • @fidjeenjanrjsnsfh
    @fidjeenjanrjsnsfh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "The fight against corrosion began with automobiles..."
    *sad pre-dreadnought noises*

  • @korakys
    @korakys ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "Black planes are rare"
    Me, a New Zealander: "that's news to me"

    • @tripperg1
      @tripperg1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      As New Zealanders, we are rare !

    • @crazydrifter13
      @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      New Sea landers. Or simply kiwis 🤪

  • @javiergilvidal1558
    @javiergilvidal1558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very informative, thanks. I never knew that beautiful shiny metallic green in fresh-from-the-factory aircraft was paint. I somehow thought the special alloys manufacturers would use nowadays perhaps had that colour naturally. My knowledge on aircraft cladding stops at WW2 Aluminium!

  • @Mountianlions69
    @Mountianlions69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's off for it's first permenant paint job, that green surface finish washes off with solvent. I used to paint brand new aircraft with this temp sf on. The yellow was an epoxy primer which had to be re-done due to moisture absorbsion by the time it arrived anywhere.

  • @zachareeeee
    @zachareeeee ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i swear the videos get hornier

    • @biggo4637
      @biggo4637 ปีที่แล้ว

      degenerate

  • @edwardboylan4187
    @edwardboylan4187 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's benefit in cleaning/polish in fuel savings. I knew a 747 pilot who swore up and down about American waxing their 747s saving something stupid like 10% fuel and flying faster.

    • @bearowen5480
      @bearowen5480 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think American ever had any 747s, please correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @aviationismylife6814
      @aviationismylife6814 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bearowen5480 they used to before 1985 at least 9

    • @johnp139
      @johnp139 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bearowen5480 Yeah, it’s easy to google it.

  • @MKahn84
    @MKahn84 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun video! Thank you.

  • @CitizenZero1
    @CitizenZero1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great B-roll on this video!

  • @pathos48
    @pathos48 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess that the "interior green" of WWII US planes was because of zinc chromate plus the need to avoid yellow for a more eye-relaxing green.
    Also, Japan used a sort of turquoise similar to the Soviet planes interior.

  • @TheBattleRabbit860
    @TheBattleRabbit860 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I build scale model airplanes, and the interior of every plane from WWII is painted either zinc chromate yellow, zinc chromate green, or a combination of the two. RAF planes have their own interior green color, as do Russian planes. The colors simply called "RAF Interior Green" or "Russian Interior Blue/Green". The amount of money I've spent on bottles of these colors is insane. So glad to see a video explaining why this is done.

  • @jared9643
    @jared9643 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going to have a black cessna with racing stripes on it.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, IMO.
    I learned a lot.
    Thank you.

  • @crazydrifter13
    @crazydrifter13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:00 cabin humidity? How do composites affect cabin humidity? Is it because now we can have higher humidity in the air without worrying about corrosion on the plane?

  • @dudestop1894
    @dudestop1894 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    American airlines = built different

  • @MarcoZamora
    @MarcoZamora ปีที่แล้ว

    It's fun to see scenes from around the Boeing 737 plant down the hill from my house. Yes, sometimes I have to wait at railroad crossings to watch green fuselages travel to the plant for final assembly.

  • @nicolafiorelli1319
    @nicolafiorelli1319 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:04 is a very nice demonstrative 😍

  • @fearthehoneybadger
    @fearthehoneybadger ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hexavalent chromium is highly carcinogenic. Interestingly, a different form of chromium, in tiny quantities, is an essential nutrient.

  • @jkcazy1692
    @jkcazy1692 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    6:00 If I had a nickel for each time classified military documents were leaked on War Thunder I'd have 6 nickels. Which isn;t a lot but it's weird it's happened 6 times.

    • @SamGSK
      @SamGSK ปีที่แล้ว +1

      alright I want to count them all, let's start with eurocopter tiger, not actually leaked but the guy who helped war thunder developers with the model got into some trouble, next the challenger 2 with a mechanic leaking the actual turret speed and some other stuff, leclerc with the famous autoloader and the type 99 with the sabot round specs being leaked. add all the remaining shit and correct me if I'm mistaken

    • @concordegaming5037
      @concordegaming5037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they add the SR-71, there’s a chance they might leak its actual top speed, which is still classified to this day.

  • @microdesigns2000
    @microdesigns2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the c/f handshake, lol.

  • @idknils2920
    @idknils2920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Air New Zealand livery just looks so good !!

  • @antoniohagopian213
    @antoniohagopian213 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Black painted planes WILL get hotter when they are parked or aren't at 30 000 feet. If maintenance is taking place in a open area and not a hangar the workers will get melted from that heat.

  • @NMJZ
    @NMJZ ปีที่แล้ว +10

    5:36 The Vought F4U Corsair was not a bomber aircraft, it was a fighter. Sure, it carried bombs and rockets in case it needed to perform strike roles, but that still doesn't make it a bomber.

  • @wewereangels
    @wewereangels ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aircraft become really hot while on the ground. I know; I used to work on them. While it sits at the gate, the surface can get really hot under full sun. While in flight, it gets really cold. The hot-cold cycle of each flight fatigues the aircraft over time. Painting it white reduces the temperature range between on-the-ground and in-flight, resulting in longer life than if it had been painted dark. We even received a company-wide email with this rationale from Boeing advocating our airline (and others) switch to white. This was close to 20 yrs ago; just a few years after 9/11.

    • @InservioLetum
      @InservioLetum ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohhhhh, that last clause. Reeeeally wish you'd stopped at 'ago'. Now where did I leave my prunejuice?

  • @redmesa2975
    @redmesa2975 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve seen the green fuselages on trains, going through Montana. I believe they are manufactured in Wichita Kansas, then shipped to Renton Washington.

    • @williamshockley7692
      @williamshockley7692 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are correct sir, they are manufactured by Spirit Aerosystems of Wichita, KS and shipped across the country to the Boeing Renton,WA plant for final assembly. Now the bigger question is why doesn't Boeing build their own fuselages locally such as they do for the 777 manufactured in Everett, WA ?

  • @zulimi
    @zulimi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "The most capable carrier-based bombers of World War 2... wore pink underneath!"
    And they were made by ladies too, don't forget!

  • @christopherallen1138
    @christopherallen1138 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I got mad when he made the joke about Americans' weight but he saved himself with that correction.

  • @EdwardTilley
    @EdwardTilley ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and research. I had no idea what was the history of the Green Zinc Chromate coating.

  • @phelidaifrost6019
    @phelidaifrost6019 ปีที่แล้ว

    Literally went to the airport shown in the opening B-roll just the other day for a flight lesson. Pretty interesting to see all the “naked” planes out on the tarmac.

  • @Jason-un9ps
    @Jason-un9ps ปีที่แล้ว +3

    12:21
    2022- Das racissss

  • @i7460
    @i7460 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hehe... premature failure...
    That's how we call it then huh ?

  • @gregorysilvernail1739
    @gregorysilvernail1739 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely Love your videos and Humor!!!!

  • @CoolAsFreya
    @CoolAsFreya ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Locomotives are still often painted pink with anti-corrosion layer before receiving their top coats

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins ปีที่แล้ว +5

    some of the problem with black paint is actually climate control, especially on larger planes where you're talking about hundreds of square meters of surface absorbing way more IR than those with white paint

    • @MrRobarino
      @MrRobarino ปีที่แล้ว

      IR is not the issue. Black paint absorbs ALL wavelengths of light, not just the IR wavelengths. White paint reflects visible light but still absorbs IR. It is visible light, not IR, that generates most of heat on the surface of a large plane.

  • @CosmicAggressor
    @CosmicAggressor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I play a lot of war thunder. The mouse aim flight is the bounciest crap ever, often makes it so you can completly miss things and can't be turned off.

    • @Nubex.
      @Nubex. ปีที่แล้ว

      Wdym it can't be turned off. You could switch to controller aim

  • @AM-bf9tb
    @AM-bf9tb ปีที่แล้ว

    Total stream of consciousness video. Loved it

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    army, uses Black and Yellow paints. Mixed they make Olive Drab. "The Telephone" company used to use them too, but not anymore. That is why most military vehicles of the Army have other designations in black or Yellow.