@@arshenio45 of course I've heard that joke (with minor changes) more than ten times and more than in one language. Let's consider it a hobby - arguing with jokes
It is funny. When parachutes were first put to the Military, the military said, "We do not want them. That would make our pilots too willing to jump out of a Military craft too early and abandon their missions." That is true.
@@dannyzero692 The Military is the Military (Nation = all). The Mil will not act upon something (until the other Mil(s) will act upon it). The Mil will want (equality with other Mil(s) in all Military functions and weapon systems). - Parachutes are just an example. Other items (such a semi-automatic rifles). The Americans did not rid themselves of the 45-70 until other Nations began to use Bolt Action - smokeless powder ammunition. The US went for the 30-40 Craig. The Craig had a beautiful loading system. But, it was inferior to the Mauser. The Mauser was a much superior rifle (and the US copied the action to make the 1903 (in 20-06). The US used a Mauser action for the bolt. In fact, Germany sued the US in International court (and won) for Copyright infringement.
@@dannyzero692 That's a partial myth, which has sadly been spread even on wikipedia. The British were 1 of only 2 nations in WW2 to issue parachutes to pilots of fixed wing aircraft. For most of the WW1 era parachutes were too big, too heavy and bulky to be used by fighter pilots, they were not the "backpack" style design we are used to today. As a result the balloon crews could use them but they wouldn't fit in most fighter planes. The British were the first in the world to have a working parachute design for fighter pilots with the "guardian angel" first being offered to the British in 1915 for assessment. However the top brass of the air corps knocked it back for various reasons including but not limited to worrying about pilots bailing too early and this delayed assessment of the design. However in 1916 Aviator deaths began to increase and solutions had to be found. As such assessments for the Guardian Angel began in 1917 and the parachute was eventual issued as standard kit in September 1918. The Germans also began testing their own "standard parachute" in 1917 and a handful of pilots were issued them in 1918 for assessment the first successful "standard parachute" bailout from a fixed wing aircraft in occurred in June 1918 leading the Germans to officially adopt the design. However due to production problems these wouldn't be issued as standard kit to German pilots until November 1918 just 6 weeks before end of the war. The US military was offered a much more advanced Parachute in 1916, not only did it feature the "standard parachute" design it was the first in the world to feature a quick release allowing the pilot to jump clear of the plane before opening eliminating most of the concerns using a parachute on a plane however the US rejected its adoption and wouldn't revisit it until 1919 as a result no US pilots were issued parachutes during WW1.
@CannedCoochie Bailing out wasn't the sole the concern with the parachute. There were major issues with the weight and size as well as of the design of the release system. Bailing out using Everard Calthrop's original design came with great risk which is why "bailing out too early" was part of the concern. As you had to release it from a container located under fuselage and then immediately jump from the plane. The fear was not that the brass thought men would abandon their mission, the reference to bailing out early, refers to whether or not the plane could be safely landed after being hit. The Brass were concerned pilots might panic and jump out before they properly accessed the damage. At the time the low risk of being unable to land the plane had to be weighed against the risk of pilots dying in an attempt bailout. Lives were not being lost due to a lack of parachute at the time, it was years later when that statistic ramped up.
Yup and I've heard it speculated that jumping is a way to determine if a warfighter will be able to function when the lead starts flying. I got to jump but was never shot at. "Shot at and missed, shit at and hit". Good ol Ft. Bragg!
I thought some paratroops had big packs for weapons, ammo, food, etc, which hung from their waist on a rope long enough that when it hit the ground, it took enough weight off the parachute to slow down the final descent and give the paratrooper enough notice to bend their knees and get ready to hit the ground.
@@veezerrscharnhorst I remember reading about it sometime in the last, say, 50 years and it struck me as pretty clever. But I have no idea what era or country or any details.
It is, and due to the complexity of the physics involved they have to continue to improve it, there are injuries during training such as broken legs. Theres training videos gone wrong if you want to look em up, although be warned, not for the faint of heart.
One of our beaters used to test parachutes in the Second World War. One of them partially opened and he spent 18 months in a full body cast. When he came out he started testing parachutes again
I'm a former skydiver. (Now I fly the plane for my jumping comrades...) But 16 years ago I saw one of my comrades coming down in a little shower with increasing gusty winds. In maybe ten meters (30 feet) above ground his canopy collapsed and he fell down like a sack potatoes and hit the ground with brutal force. I did some photos of that accident. In the first moment I thought he is dead. But luckily he survived with many severe injuries. And maybe a year after that accident he started again jumping, made his license as a instuctor and is jumping untill nowadays. Me instead haunted that accident so heavily that I decided to end my jumping career and start to fly planes instead. (Ok, at that time I had pretty much lost my interest in jumping) And so nowadays we sit together again in the same plane, he get out and I stay inside to land with the plane... 😀👍
I’ve been skydiving since 1968. Still active at age 73. This is the best documentary of parachute history that I have ever seen. Remarkably accurate and informative. Bravo!!!!!
My Grandpa sometimes talks about the time he learned to become a paratrooper in WW2. The first jump they did after just learning the right landing technique for a few weeks, they did with the same parachute they would deploy with in battle. And those were not made for a safe landing but instead to come down as fast as possible without major injuries when done right. I don't know the exact numbers but many broke a leg because they didn't land right. Most were injured in the process. Well, Training had to be quick and for safe tries to get used to it, was no time. Those that made it continued their training while the others did different training after recovering. That was the fastest way to select the ones that were suited for the job.
OMG what a coincidence, my daughter (yesterday) asked me about how it was jumping in parachute while I was a Ranger! I’m going to show her this after she gets from school!
Jesus, 2.72m is like being on the roof of your home and when you get to the edge, instead of using a ladder, you just jump. You're almost guaranteed an ankle injury.
@@NihongoWakannai I learned from video games that you just gotta roll on landing and it'll be fine. Either that or be on a mount, when you land the mount will poof away but you'll be OK.
@@emissarygw2264 Rolling is SUPER important. Always roll if you think it'll be a rough landing. Practice rolling and learn how to. Even a little stupid roll helps so much. Source: I've jumped off lots of things and only broken foot bones once- a time when I didn't roll.
With the vents being at 4 corners instead of exclusively up the middle, that reduces the ability of wind to be able to blow you around, as the pivot point is moved from just the center exhaust hole to effectively the entire surface of the parachute. This is the primary reason for the upgrade. It makes it so parachuting is safe in a wider range of weather conditions.
When I think about how this channel started, with videos about electricity, sharks and sex, it's good to see that you settled on a general topic where you have a lot to talk about
@@adaster98 Apparently it is based on the order in which the army took them into service; both planes weren't even from the same company: Curtiss C-47, Douglas C-47 But I just looked it up
My cousin, Thomas Hope, was part of the film crew recording a training film for how to properly land. The footage seen of soldiers landing with their feet apart is from that film. The film crew were also the guys who discovered that people landing with their feet apart lead to leg injuries. Pretty cool that it was the film guys who saved a bunch of lives.
I imagine the logic here is that if your legs are apart you're much more likely to land on just one of them, and not fall over to dissipate some of the energy, whereas if they're together you're more likely to land on both, reducing the overall load on each leg, and increasing the likelihood of you falling?
@@MGSLurmey I also belive that by having legs close together, your body and parachute pivot around your feet, leading to less shock having to be absorbed by the legs
It's your basic PLF...but I only used ram air sport parachutes. The only time I had to do a PLF was when my main failed and I had to use my reserve chute, which at the time was round.
When I made static line jumps at a sport parachute club in the '70s, (round canopies), we trained PLF's by jumping from a platform about 6-ft high. This only helped understand the principle of making multiple points of contact during the landing. The problem is that under a parachute, you are approaching the ground at a constant rate...something people do not learn growing up. As kids we get plenty of experience jumping off things, but that involves accelerating toward the ground. The worst thing you can do landing with a round parachute is looking down and anticipating when to begin the PLF. Our senses are tricked by the view of the ground approaching at a constant rate. We were taught to look at the horizon on landing and trust our body to know when to initiate the PLF. This is difficult to force yourself to do in the moment and it became almost as frightening as exiting the plane. The one time I second-guessed myself and did not keep my eyes on the horizon, I got my brain rattled by landing so hard and thought I fractured my hip. Even with military training that includes making PLF's from rigs that allow for a constant rate of descent, some of the guys shown in this video landed hard and incorrectly.
@@XwpisONOMA Absolutely nothing to those without the secret decoder ring. Did you not receive your secret decoder ring in the morning cereal box? You really should try to buy the right morning cereal box and keep your secret decoder ring collection up to date. My, the giraffe's have gotten rosy of late.
Back in 1994, I was a participant of the 50th Anniversary of the Normandy Landings. Met a German WWII veteran with the German 6th parachute Regiment. He had not only jumped in to the Netherlands, but he had also jumped into Crete. Heck of a guy...
@Musa Altariel: Just being a member of the Wehrmacht didn't get you prosecuted, unless you committed a war crime. Most of the German soldiers were youngsters (and later in the war older guys, too) drafted to serve, and not even nazis...
My grandfather was a paratrooper during WWII. He said it was pretty rough although fun. He ended up breaking his ankle completely in half on his last jump and was medically discharged.
@@kuiper921 due to injury. I believe he actually was sent to Japan to guard a warehouse during the occupation once it healed, but continued to cause him problems. This was all towards the end of the war.
@@Ass_of_Amalek this is my remembering of the story from 20+ years ago. I think he was sent to Japan during the occupation after this injury, but he couldn’t jump anymore. He guarded a warehouse for a while but his leg was so bad he wasn’t really useful and was discharged because of it. Again at the end of the war.
How did I not see this video before? Only now, 5 months later? Anyhow, as a former paratrooper, I can tell you that none of the snapping you see from jump school training occurs in real life. When you exit a high-performance AC, you are HORIZONTAL, NOT falling vertically. When the chute opens, you just swing down to vertical. The chaos is those first few seconds that you are caught in the prop/jet wash of the AC dropping you- you'll be turned/twisted/jostled, which is why it's super important to keep a tight body position and tighten any gear (helmets, eye glass straps, etc.), to the point of pain. Once the chute is opened and you're falling, it's super quiet. Hell, you can even hear the enemy on the ground while they are targeting you. Jumping from a rotary-wing AC is different, as you will fall vertically for longer before the chute opens. Normally, the count is 4 seconds when jumping from a fixed-wing AC, but changes to 6 for helicopters. I view it more as jumping from the high-dive at a pool. The T-10B and MC1 were the chutes in use when I was in. The former was the most-used while the latter had a large opening on one side, which was to allow the jumper to face into the wind to slow themselves down AND to get a better position for a PLF. PLFs to the front and sides are a heck of a lot easier than to the rear. Those ones will always result in your head being the 3rd POC. Jumps from FW AC are usually under 700', while jumps from RW AC are 1200'. You need that extra height in order to allow the chute to open. As said, the whole point is to get the troopers down on the ground ASAP without injuring them. The longer you're in the air, the more of a target you are.
@@Okipouros so paratroopers get 4 jumps at Benning for their airborne certification. They are quite different at their units. So they "pop their cherry" with their 1st unit jumps.
@@Okipouros and we used to put the dollar cherry pies in most if not every pocket on there acu's and smash them as we load up at green ramp. Hence, cherries.
The need for the first airlift operation arose in 1942, when major elements of Eighteenth Army were trapped in the Demyansk pocket and Hitler ordered that they be supplied by air. The First Air Force was given this mission and assigned three groups of Junkers transport planes as well as some cargo gliders to carry it out. The chief supply officer of the air force formed a special air transport staff which, in co-operation with the responsible army agencies, carried out the supply operations in accordance with requests received from the encircled units. An adequate airstrip was available within the pocket. The surrounding terrain could be used as a parachute drop zone. The enemy territory to be crossed was narrow and fighter cover was available throughout the flight and during the take-off from the airstrip. There were but few days on which the air lift was interrupted by snow storms, the formation of ice, or fog on the ground. Under such favorable circumstances it was not too difficult to maintain the fighting strength of the encircled forces.
The T-11 chute are something that I wish I had when I was in the 82d. The T-10c/d is what I jumped most of the time, and my back, knees, and ankles are not in good shape. I guess that's the cost of being a paratrooper on jump status. Such is life.
Ram air canopies require more training and skill to fly and land safely. In the 70s I started with the venerable T-10, then a TU-modified 28' round that was several years older than I was, a Paracommander "high performance" round, and finally a ram-air Strato-cloud. For my first jump on a square, I did a hop-n-pop at 10500 to learn how to control it on the way down- about eight minutes to figure it out!
"then a TU-modified 28' round that was several years " The TU7 was the first "steerable" (and I use that term loosely) I jumped with. From there (and like most,) I went to a Pioneer Parachutes' "Para commander." I might still have one of their old catalogs from 1972 hiding somewhere. A hop-n-pop at 10,000 feet would definitaly be the "slow way down," for sure. 😀
2:42 when my older brother crusades from AIT (Advanced Individual Training) from fort benning Georgia, we went on a tour of the fort and there we saw stuff like officer barracks, the airfield as well as stuff like the school for the personnel’s children but we also saw 3 huge towers in a field roughly 280 feet tall and my dad who also graduated boot camp and AIT at fort benning said they were jump towers, didn’t realize they were used all the way back in WW2
As an former very avid sport jumper, I very much enjoyed your video. Modern sport jumpers owe a big debt to those who paved the way. Thanks for the historical review.
Looool that training. As a skydiver having run an AFF course in 7 jumps it's like 1 day of theoretical training (safety procedures, equipment knowledge, landing patterns,.malfunctions..) and on the same day you get to do your first jump wearing your own parachute, flying it and landing it. These military course, 3 weeks, only to jump and not even skydiving and not even flying a ram air chute. I had to chuckle a bit.
When I went to Airborne school in 2019, the 76m tall towers were not used because they were too old and rusted but they did use a dummy straped to a parachute to show us an example.
@@alexnicolaou3579 depends on when you pull your slip. It determines how fast laterally your move and slow is the best because it's sets you up perfectly for a nice PLF . I've had landing so smooth it felt like nothing and some where I got my shit rocked.
The mighty Ungawa is dead? Rangers who have never been through desert phase, paratroopers who have never gone off the tower, the world is a whack-a-doodle place now.
5:40 this only works in very ideal conditions: at the first gust of wind they get scattered everywhere. The actual reason is that, given the training and skills of the average grunt, the ability to steer would do more arms than good: pilots and special units, which are not so expendables, receive more training and better parachutes.
Worst part of jump school is ground week. Not because of difficulty, but because you spend so much time jumping into a gravel pit learning to plf. The t11 had a ridiculously high injury rate for a good bit, buddies of mine that are still in and pulling duties hated them for a very long time. Sof uses the mc6 for static line jumps, took me quite a while to completely master it, since the first half of my time was spent in division jumping the -10d, and you have to turn into the wind. Guy didn't mention the constant trouble riggers get into. When i lived in the barracks in division, my walk to pt every morning passed the 782nd rigger company, and every day there was more maroon berets than red hats. Because they screwed up and were pulled off packing.
My grandfather occasionally would tell of jumping into Normandy if he was drunk. His best friend was shot and killed on the way down and evidently his unit had so many landing injuries that they were folded into another unit. He questioned if it wasn't too wasteful of solders to parachute them into an active battlefield. He had great stories about the women of France and how many times he got laid though. Ended up on a troop ship coming home after the war and the conditions they endured made him a bit bitter about how the US government didn't care about it's soldiers (they all almost starved to death anchored off the coast after boarding, and no one in the Allied command structure seemed to care) I think they threatened to take over the ship and run it aground and that finely got food and fuel delivered so they could make the Atlantic crossing back to the US.
My dad was in the Army in the late 50's. He's terrified of flying but he hated the idea of being shipped off to Germany even more. So off to Fort Benning he went for paratrooper training. He made 8 jumps and never suffered a scratch.
While in the 82nd I jumped the T-10 and the Dash 1. When the Dash 1 first came out they did a mass tac and everyone steered into each other. The T-10 wasnt steerable. After that little fiasco the Dash 1, at least while I was there, was used in a limited capacity.
The T-10C wasn’t very maneuverable either but you could dump air for a slightly quicker descent rate. They were however pretty terrible about oscillation. We used to steal each other’s air and leap frog our way down. I’d love to jump a T-11 just for fun the extra hang time would be serene. Not so great on a combat jump I’d imagine.
The myth of issuing non-steerable parachutes keeps being perpetuated by the military, either you train the troops or you don’t. Non-steerable parachutes result in far more injuries than steerable. It’s possible to net the mods to avoid one of the risks and the risk of collision is a myth, I’ve had multiple collisions in un model/ non-steerable parachutes but none under steerable chutes.
Great video. I jumped 5 times, twice with a round canopy and 3 times with a square. First 3 landings were ok. 4th was a belly landing because of overspeed and 5th I braked too soon so I came down quite hard. I quit because the instructors let me trying to fold my own parachute while I wasn’t instructed to do that.
They were following the safety protocols. Unless you are a licensed rigger, you are not supposed to touch another's main. The "student" is supposed to connect the static line or pin, while being supervised by a licensed/competent person. All the same, a trash-packing opens just fine... they want to open. If not, that is why you have a reserve.
never really explained what the reason for being square is, 4:50 or so you mentioned T11 vs T10 is slower, square shaped, and has reduced oscillations, but what does being square vs being circle do to make these benefits vs just making a different circular design?
My cousin was the first enlisted man to jump onto Corregidor in 1945. He lived to tell about it despite low altitude, savage winds and plenty of machine-gun bullets.
Doesn't mention the french inventor dying trying to show off his para(suit) not chute lol. He jumped from the Eiffle Tower if i remember right, trying to prove his invention worked, in front of thousands of people, but due to the short distance, bad luck and unfavorable winds, his chute/suit didn't open enough to arrest his fall, and he died in front of everyone. But had already proven the concept before, on a luckier day.
Excellent mention why Airborne mass drops don't use steerable parachutes. And pointing out that a parachute is not needed for skydiving unless you want to do it twice.
"Contrary to popular belief, you actually don't need a parachute to go skydiving!" "..but you do need one if you wanna go twice." did not expect that lol. made my afternoon
"Contrary to popular belief. You don't need a parachute to go skydiving, but you need one if you wanna go skydiving twice." This got coffee all over my desk ...
Australia also experimented with aerial resupply in WW1 with General Monash getting RAAF planes to drop machine gun ammo after the assault at Hamel. Although this was mainly a small parachute pulling the ammo box out from under the plane's wings then it crashing down near the gunners.
Retired Airborne guy here with quite a lot of time on Jump status, primarily jumping the T-10B/C, and MC1-1 B/C parachutes. I joke that that parachutes should be round, as God made them, but in reality I'm glad to see the rate of descent reduced anyway possible. I used to slam into the ground and while I was never injured did witness one or two gruesome accidents. However, the real threat is the number of relatively minor injuries like sprains and fractures, especially when after the drop you have to walk a few miles. I would add that one of the major innovations which brought the T-10 into being was the incorporation of the Deployment or "D-Bag" into the system. The parachute is packed into a deployment bag, separate from the risers and suspension lines so that those are fully extended by the jumpers fall prior to the canopy being pulled from the D-Bag. In this way the canopy is not damaged by the risers and is less likely to get twisted by them. many malfunctions simply disappeared following that change. The other major change coming in with the T-10B is the incorporation of an anti-inversion net at the hem of the canopy. This is just a form of sting netting sewn into the hem which prevents the canopy from folding in on itself while being opened. A complete inversion does not contribute to a higher rate of descent, but complete inversion are rare. Normally what was seen was the infamous "Mae West" or partial canopy which is very dangerous. Also, inversions contribute to blown gores or other damage to the canopy, particularly after the adoption of nylon as the primary material. Heated nylon goes from being very supple and strong to brittle and weak. Any time the canopy is rubbing against itself that friction will heat the canopy up really fast making it brittle. It just becomes regular plastic and breaks. Regarding steerable canopies....this is an idea that briefs well but is questionable in execution. We only jumped steerable canopies (MC1-1) when the numbers were small and generally that's only to avoid an obstacle on the ground. Otherwise hands off the toggles until landing and then only to turn the canopy into the wind. In a real operation steering around the air is dangerous. Also it's usually at night and you can't see anything anyway.
I still feel like a coordinated jump with maneuverable chutes, or better yet, paramotors that can fly a couple meters off the ground, would be pretty useful. Like, you can execute the drop from relative safety and troops can fly around any air defenses or below the radar. Sure, it requires coordination to avoid the injuries caused by collisions, but I think lift-generating wings are inherently advantageous and so is having a power source. Especially for some kind of small strike team operating in contested airspace.
SOF units do use ram air canopies for HALO and HAHO jumps but military freefal training is expensive and it would be too costly to train divisions how to do MFF.
Not for significantly sized units, firstly you aren't intending to drop in areas that have AD, secondly the goal is to spend less time as a target in the air, not more. You add engines, you add radar reflectivity, sound and heat sources all a bad idea.
When I was in the Army I only jumped the T10D.... I've never got the jump the new chutes I wish I could have.... they brought them into the Army a couple years after I got out
To pay for my jumps at the DZ, I'd pack the student gear. Five rigs paid for one jump, so doing five jumps in a day involved packing 30 parachutes. I got my exercise. "Dave" just couldn't get past five-second freefalls, he was always in a flat spin to the right so his jumpmaster wouldn't sign him off to do longer jumps, and the line twists on opening were pissing him off too. I made a custom pack job just for him, turning the deployment bag three times to the right before closing the container. Dave thought I was a genius until he managed to spin to the left and it sniveled on him for a thousand feet. No more custom pack jobs. The DZ operator had me teach him to pack his own gear -the poor guy had become a regular- to save him some money. He watched me flaking the panels, making them drape cleanly, s-folding them into the bag, and stowing the lines but was leery of doing it himself, but I handed it off to him and kept an eye on him from a distance. Then one of the experienced jumpers had to be a wiseass. He walked up, sniffed loudly, and said "I smell something." Bending down, he took a loud whiff of the rig Dave was packing and proclaimed, "Smells like... DEATH!" The DZ operator came up, looked things over, crossed his arms, shook his head, and added, "Scares me and *I'm* fearless." I had to promise to jump the rig myself to peel the poor guy off the ceiling. So that's where I picked up that phrase.
I was under the impression that it was Italy who first deployed Paratroops, with Russia a close second, but as a special purpose force. Italy doesn't get credit for many of the things she developed in the inter war period. Secondly, North Korea had square parachutes in 1951, as stated by Chuck Yeager, who shot down a Mig and saw the pilot bail out. That doesn't mean it was the same as this chute though. Thirdly, I thought that low level drops were the key to not getting your troops shot up on their way down, those new chutes might be the answer to the problem of not having enough time to break the fall before it broke you.
I heard Benjamin Franklin came up with the idea of vertical envelopement by military troops. He was in Europe for both the parachute and the hot air balloon.
Re paratroopers not using steerables, the big reason not to use them is that you would literally have an entire battalion steering towards the softest/clearest looking spot on the DZ, the collision rate would skyrocket.
Also that means that they can not turn into the wind to land. Ps, I have done nearly 200 jumps and I am qualified to pack them so I have a bit of experience.
I've done 75 as a paratrooper, the other reason is that when you are jumping at 750ft, there is only limited utility to steering, take out 175ft for deployment, then you have canopy check (deal with twists if you have them), look around for possible collisions, lower your equipment and assess drift you probably only have about 3-400 feet (vertical) to steer in.
I've never heard anyone complain about the damaged chute.
I've heard from my friends. They landed mostly reserves after find main being damaged, but landed damaged mains also happens
@@TwilightSun32 i think its a joke about people dying from damaged chutes and not being able to complain about it mate
@@arshenio45 of course I've heard that joke (with minor changes) more than ten times and more than in one language. Let's consider it a hobby - arguing with jokes
the old joke was anyone having doubts about a defective chute in ww2, the logistic men would say, "yeah just bring it back will give you a new one"
@@noidontthinksolol my another hobby is skydiving, just for balance
It is funny.
When parachutes were first put to the Military, the military said, "We do not want them. That would make our pilots too willing to jump out of a Military craft too early and abandon their missions."
That is true.
Let me guess, WW1 era right?
I thought only the British do that and then regret it later when they realized their pilots kept dying because they don’t have parachutes.
@@dannyzero692 The Military is the Military (Nation = all).
The Mil will not act upon something (until the other Mil(s) will act upon it). The Mil will want (equality with other Mil(s) in all Military functions and weapon systems).
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Parachutes are just an example.
Other items (such a semi-automatic rifles). The Americans did not rid themselves of the 45-70 until other Nations began to use Bolt Action - smokeless powder ammunition.
The US went for the 30-40 Craig. The Craig had a beautiful loading system. But, it was inferior to the Mauser. The Mauser was a much superior rifle (and the US copied the action to make the 1903 (in 20-06). The US used a Mauser action for the bolt. In fact, Germany sued the US in International court (and won) for Copyright infringement.
@@dannyzero692 That's a partial myth, which has sadly been spread even on wikipedia. The British were 1 of only 2 nations in WW2 to issue parachutes to pilots of fixed wing aircraft.
For most of the WW1 era parachutes were too big, too heavy and bulky to be used by fighter pilots, they were not the "backpack" style design we are used to today. As a result the balloon crews could use them but they wouldn't fit in most fighter planes.
The British were the first in the world to have a working parachute design for fighter pilots with the "guardian angel" first being offered to the British in 1915 for assessment. However the top brass of the air corps knocked it back for various reasons including but not limited to worrying about pilots bailing too early and this delayed assessment of the design. However in 1916 Aviator deaths began to increase and solutions had to be found. As such assessments for the Guardian Angel began in 1917 and the parachute was eventual issued as standard kit in September 1918.
The Germans also began testing their own "standard parachute" in 1917 and a handful of pilots were issued them in 1918 for assessment the first successful "standard parachute" bailout from a fixed wing aircraft in occurred in June 1918 leading the Germans to officially adopt the design. However due to production problems these wouldn't be issued as standard kit to German pilots until November 1918 just 6 weeks before end of the war.
The US military was offered a much more advanced Parachute in 1916, not only did it feature the "standard parachute" design it was the first in the world to feature a quick release allowing the pilot to jump clear of the plane before opening eliminating most of the concerns using a parachute on a plane however the US rejected its adoption and wouldn't revisit it until 1919 as a result no US pilots were issued parachutes during WW1.
@CannedCoochie Bailing out wasn't the sole the concern with the parachute. There were major issues with the weight and size as well as of the design of the release system.
Bailing out using Everard Calthrop's original design came with great risk which is why "bailing out too early" was part of the concern. As you had to release it from a container located under fuselage and then immediately jump from the plane.
The fear was not that the brass thought men would abandon their mission, the reference to bailing out early, refers to whether or not the plane could be safely landed after being hit. The Brass were concerned pilots might panic and jump out before they properly accessed the damage.
At the time the low risk of being unable to land the plane had to be weighed against the risk of pilots dying in an attempt bailout.
Lives were not being lost due to a lack of parachute at the time, it was years later when that statistic ramped up.
Parachuting out of an airplane was simultaneously the most terrifying and best experience of my life
I've always said that you're never more alive than the first time a parachute opens above your head. I've got 45 jumps when in the 82nd.
Yup and I've heard it speculated that jumping is a way to determine if a warfighter will be able to function when the lead starts flying. I got to jump but was never shot at. "Shot at and missed, shit at and hit". Good ol Ft. Bragg!
bro imagine telling a friend about a guy you know who skydives (who died in one) and say yeah he made 32 jumps and 31 successful landings
It must be tricky finding the balance between a speed slow enough to be safe/injury free but fast enough to avoid getting shot on the way down.
I thought some paratroops had big packs for weapons, ammo, food, etc, which hung from their waist on a rope long enough that when it hit the ground, it took enough weight off the parachute to slow down the final descent and give the paratrooper enough notice to bend their knees and get ready to hit the ground.
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 is this already in application or you're just saying, i mean that's a great idea
@@veezerrscharnhorst I remember reading about it sometime in the last, say, 50 years and it struck me as pretty clever. But I have no idea what era or country or any details.
It is, and due to the complexity of the physics involved they have to continue to improve it, there are injuries during training such as broken legs. Theres training videos gone wrong if you want to look em up, although be warned, not for the faint of heart.
Isnt it illegal to shoot at someone parachuting tho? 🤔
Fact: You can actually jump out of an airplane without a parachute. It is a once in a lifetime experience!
One guy lived to tell the tale.
or you could do it whilst still on the ground 🧠
Once in a lifetime taken too seriously
He literally told that joke lol
I did that and I’m alive, pretty short drop tho
One of our beaters used to test parachutes in the Second World War. One of them partially opened and he spent 18 months in a full body cast. When he came out he started testing parachutes again
Or dain bramage
@@serronserron1320 his name was Alfie Vickers. Most certainly didn’t have brain damage.
I'm a former skydiver. (Now I fly the plane for my jumping comrades...)
But 16 years ago I saw one of my comrades coming down in a little shower with increasing gusty winds. In maybe ten meters (30 feet) above ground his canopy collapsed and he fell down like a sack potatoes and hit the ground with brutal force. I did some photos of that accident.
In the first moment I thought he is dead. But luckily he survived with many severe injuries. And maybe a year after that accident he started again jumping, made his license as a instuctor and is jumping untill nowadays.
Me instead haunted that accident so heavily that I decided to end my jumping career and start to fly planes instead. (Ok, at that time I had pretty much lost my interest in jumping)
And so nowadays we sit together again in the same plane, he get out and I stay inside to land with the plane... 😀👍
@@MisterIvyMike nice
Talk about taking one for the team
I’ve been skydiving since 1968. Still active at age 73. This is the best documentary of parachute history that I have ever seen. Remarkably accurate and informative. Bravo!!!!!
He taught you actually could skydive without a parachute but you don't reach your 73.😆
You're a mad lad. Hats off. Keep it up! I'm working on becoming the fella who flies the perfectly good airplane you jump out of🤣
"This is the best documentary of MILITARY parachute history" 🙂 Sport jumpers do NOT use square parachutes.😉
B-19601
Bill booth's talk at the bpa agm is the best for sporties this is really only military
My Grandpa sometimes talks about the time he learned to become a paratrooper in WW2. The first jump they did after just learning the right landing technique for a few weeks, they did with the same parachute they would deploy with in battle. And those were not made for a safe landing but instead to come down as fast as possible without major injuries when done right. I don't know the exact numbers but many broke a leg because they didn't land right. Most were injured in the process. Well, Training had to be quick and for safe tries to get used to it, was no time. Those that made it continued their training while the others did different training after recovering. That was the fastest way to select the ones that were suited for the job.
OMG what a coincidence, my daughter (yesterday) asked me about how it was jumping in parachute while I was a Ranger! I’m going to show her this after she gets from school!
Aww, that's really adorable man !
Go buy lottery ticket
Rangers lead the way.
that's so sweet!
Well why is she in school is she dumb and summer school because school is over my guy and really didn’t have to yell ranger at us
An impact velocity of 5.8m/s is like jumping down from 1.71m with no parachute, while a velocity of 7.3m/s is like jumping down from a height of 2.72m
Jesus, 2.72m is like being on the roof of your home and when you get to the edge, instead of using a ladder, you just jump. You're almost guaranteed an ankle injury.
@@addanametocontinue if you're young and fit and you land correctly then it's fine.
@@NihongoWakannai I learned from video games that you just gotta roll on landing and it'll be fine. Either that or be on a mount, when you land the mount will poof away but you'll be OK.
@@emissarygw2264 Rolling is SUPER important. Always roll if you think it'll be a rough landing. Practice rolling and learn how to. Even a little stupid roll helps so much.
Source: I've jumped off lots of things and only broken foot bones once- a time when I didn't roll.
@@addanametocontinue lol no, unless ur a dwarf.
With the vents being at 4 corners instead of exclusively up the middle, that reduces the ability of wind to be able to blow you around, as the pivot point is moved from just the center exhaust hole to effectively the entire surface of the parachute. This is the primary reason for the upgrade. It makes it so parachuting is safe in a wider range of weather conditions.
When I think about how this channel started, with videos about electricity, sharks and sex, it's good to see that you settled on a general topic where you have a lot to talk about
Hold up I don't remember the sex one but the others I do
Give us a link to the sexy part... 😆👍
Fun fact:the plane at 3:30 is a C-46, similar to the C-47 but the C-46 is bigger
@@adaster98 Apparently it is based on the order in which the army took them into service; both planes weren't even from the same company: Curtiss C-47, Douglas C-47
But I just looked it up
@@adaster98 Thanks.
0:35 as a french person, you absolutely said that correctly, nobody else in videos got it right in my opinion.
Meanwhile Simon the video printing guy cannot say a simplest Russian words without making it to look like it's an add-on to English.
My cousin, Thomas Hope, was part of the film crew recording a training film for how to properly land. The footage seen of soldiers landing with their feet apart is from that film.
The film crew were also the guys who discovered that people landing with their feet apart lead to leg injuries.
Pretty cool that it was the film guys who saved a bunch of lives.
I imagine the logic here is that if your legs are apart you're much more likely to land on just one of them, and not fall over to dissipate some of the energy, whereas if they're together you're more likely to land on both, reducing the overall load on each leg, and increasing the likelihood of you falling?
@@MGSLurmey I also belive that by having legs close together, your body and parachute pivot around your feet, leading to less shock having to be absorbed by the legs
Two sticks are stronger than one, as the instructors would say (referring to keeping your legs together).
It's your basic PLF...but I only used ram air sport parachutes. The only time I had to do a PLF was when my main failed and I had to use my reserve chute, which at the time was round.
"You don't need a parachute to go skydiving. But you need one if you wanna go skydiving twice! " Got me laughing🤣
When I made static line jumps at a sport parachute club in the '70s, (round canopies), we trained PLF's by jumping from a platform about 6-ft high. This only helped understand the principle of making multiple points of contact during the landing. The problem is that under a parachute, you are approaching the ground at a constant rate...something people do not learn growing up. As kids we get plenty of experience jumping off things, but that involves accelerating toward the ground. The worst thing you can do landing with a round parachute is looking down and anticipating when to begin the PLF. Our senses are tricked by the view of the ground approaching at a constant rate. We were taught to look at the horizon on landing and trust our body to know when to initiate the PLF. This is difficult to force yourself to do in the moment and it became almost as frightening as exiting the plane. The one time I second-guessed myself and did not keep my eyes on the horizon, I got my brain rattled by landing so hard and thought I fractured my hip. Even with military training that includes making PLF's from rigs that allow for a constant rate of descent, some of the guys shown in this video landed hard and incorrectly.
An uncle was a PB4Y engine mechanic during WW II, and supposedly everyone who had worked on a plane went up on the first flight after repairs.
That's actually a good method of making sure there aren't spies to sabotage the plane
And what does this piece of useless personal trivia have to do with parachutes?!? ⚡😠👎
@@XwpisONOMA Absolutely nothing to those without the secret decoder ring. Did you not receive your secret decoder ring in the morning cereal box? You really should try to buy the right morning cereal box and keep your secret decoder ring collection up to date.
My, the giraffe's have gotten rosy of late.
@@grizwoldphantasia5005 I got mine in a box of grits
Back in 1994, I was a participant of the 50th Anniversary of the Normandy Landings.
Met a German WWII veteran with the German 6th parachute Regiment.
He had not only jumped in to the Netherlands, but he had also jumped into Crete.
Heck of a guy...
I wonder if he was ever being persecuted for being associated with Wehrmacht.
@Musa Altariel: Just being a member of the Wehrmacht didn't get you prosecuted, unless you committed a war crime. Most of the German soldiers were youngsters (and later in the war older guys, too) drafted to serve, and not even nazis...
My grandfather was a paratrooper during WWII. He said it was pretty rough although fun. He ended up breaking his ankle completely in half on his last jump and was medically discharged.
sounds like a really lucky injury to gain his discharge with. no capture either, that's nice.
I mean this respectfully not making a snarky joke or anything. Was that planned on being his last jump or was it just his last because of the injury?
@@kuiper921 due to injury. I believe he actually was sent to Japan to guard a warehouse during the occupation once it healed, but continued to cause him problems. This was all towards the end of the war.
@@Ass_of_Amalek this is my remembering of the story from 20+ years ago. I think he was sent to Japan during the occupation after this injury, but he couldn’t jump anymore. He guarded a warehouse for a while but his leg was so bad he wasn’t really useful and was discharged because of it. Again at the end of the war.
This channel never disappoints!!
Do video on ejection seats it will be interesting and informative
He already did one
He did, the video is called "This Will Determine if You Survive Ejection."
He talked about common malfunctions and injuries.
@@DoctorJammer must have been one day that I was on a vacation
How did I not see this video before? Only now, 5 months later?
Anyhow, as a former paratrooper, I can tell you that none of the snapping you see from jump school training occurs in real life. When you exit a high-performance AC, you are HORIZONTAL, NOT falling vertically. When the chute opens, you just swing down to vertical. The chaos is those first few seconds that you are caught in the prop/jet wash of the AC dropping you- you'll be turned/twisted/jostled, which is why it's super important to keep a tight body position and tighten any gear (helmets, eye glass straps, etc.), to the point of pain. Once the chute is opened and you're falling, it's super quiet. Hell, you can even hear the enemy on the ground while they are targeting you.
Jumping from a rotary-wing AC is different, as you will fall vertically for longer before the chute opens. Normally, the count is 4 seconds when jumping from a fixed-wing AC, but changes to 6 for helicopters. I view it more as jumping from the high-dive at a pool.
The T-10B and MC1 were the chutes in use when I was in. The former was the most-used while the latter had a large opening on one side, which was to allow the jumper to face into the wind to slow themselves down AND to get a better position for a PLF. PLFs to the front and sides are a heck of a lot easier than to the rear. Those ones will always result in your head being the 3rd POC.
Jumps from FW AC are usually under 700', while jumps from RW AC are 1200'. You need that extra height in order to allow the chute to open.
As said, the whole point is to get the troopers down on the ground ASAP without injuring them. The longer you're in the air, the more of a target you are.
I helped rate the new t-11 chutes and can say they are good and bad. Longer loiter, softer landing. The dash 10 are better for me personally
The T-10 fall rate was fine, unless you hit a downdraft or carrying too much gear, or being kind of heavy, or landing on specially bad terrain IMO
@@Okipouros that's what I mean. The 10 was great for my jumps. I had more cherries drift to the trees with 11's.
@@banthaboss6390 What does it mean "cherries drift to the trees "?
@@Okipouros so paratroopers get 4 jumps at Benning for their airborne certification. They are quite different at their units. So they "pop their cherry" with their 1st unit jumps.
@@Okipouros and we used to put the dollar cherry pies in most if not every pocket on there acu's and smash them as we load up at green ramp. Hence, cherries.
The need for the first airlift operation arose in 1942, when major elements of Eighteenth Army were trapped in the Demyansk pocket and Hitler ordered that they be supplied by air. The First Air Force was given this mission and assigned three groups of Junkers transport planes as well as some cargo gliders to carry it out. The chief supply officer of the air force formed a special air transport staff which, in co-operation with the responsible army agencies, carried out the supply operations in accordance with requests received from the encircled units.
An adequate airstrip was available within the pocket. The surrounding terrain could be used as a parachute drop zone. The enemy territory to be crossed was narrow and fighter cover was available throughout the flight and during the take-off from the airstrip. There were but few days on which the air lift was interrupted by snow storms, the formation of ice, or fog on the ground. Under such favorable circumstances it was not too difficult to maintain the fighting strength of the encircled forces.
You don't a parachute to go skydiving but you do need one if you want to go twice
That really really got me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The T-11 chute are something that I wish I had when I was in the 82d. The T-10c/d is what I jumped most of the time, and my back, knees, and ankles are not in good shape. I guess that's the cost of being a paratrooper on jump status. Such is life.
Ram air canopies require more training and skill to fly and land safely. In the 70s I started with the venerable T-10, then a TU-modified 28' round that was several years older than I was, a Paracommander "high performance" round, and finally a ram-air Strato-cloud. For my first jump on a square, I did a hop-n-pop at 10500 to learn how to control it on the way down- about eight minutes to figure it out!
"then a TU-modified 28' round that was several years "
The TU7 was the first "steerable" (and I use that term loosely) I jumped with. From there (and like most,) I went to a Pioneer Parachutes' "Para commander." I might still have one of their old catalogs from 1972 hiding somewhere.
A hop-n-pop at 10,000 feet would definitaly be the "slow way down," for sure. 😀
Almost exactly my progression, only I had an old ropes and rings Strato - Star before my Cloud.
Always exciting to see a not what you think video
2:42 when my older brother crusades from AIT (Advanced Individual Training) from fort benning Georgia, we went on a tour of the fort and there we saw stuff like officer barracks, the airfield as well as stuff like the school for the personnel’s children but we also saw 3 huge towers in a field roughly 280 feet tall and my dad who also graduated boot camp and AIT at fort benning said they were jump towers, didn’t realize they were used all the way back in WW2
I would have lived perfectly fine if I hadn’t seen this video but I’m glad I did.
1:18 sorry sir, even if I wanted to do it once, I still need a parachute 😂
It's personal preference.
I'd rather not leave a perfectly working airplane while in flight.
As an former very avid sport jumper, I very much enjoyed your video. Modern sport jumpers owe a big debt to those who paved the way. Thanks for the historical review.
1:20 I appreciated that joke!
Looool that training. As a skydiver having run an AFF course in 7 jumps it's like 1 day of theoretical training (safety procedures, equipment knowledge, landing patterns,.malfunctions..) and on the same day you get to do your first jump wearing your own parachute, flying it and landing it. These military course, 3 weeks, only to jump and not even skydiving and not even flying a ram air chute. I had to chuckle a bit.
It's not the same, skydiver's don't need to PLF on landing because they land soft. They also don't carry 120 lbs of equipment while jumping.
Both my dad and I were paratroopers. He started with the T1 and I started with the T10. My last jump was with a steerable Dash 1. Nice.
136 jumps - 6 static line and 130 freefall, and every one of them fun!
When I went to Airborne school in 2019, the 76m tall towers were not used because they were too old and rusted but they did use a dummy straped to a parachute to show us an example.
how would you describe the landing? is it similar to jumping off a bar stool or more of a 1st storey balcony jump?
Just graduated yesterday and can confirm 👍
@@alexnicolaou3579 depends on when you pull your slip. It determines how fast laterally your move and slow is the best because it's sets you up perfectly for a nice PLF . I've had landing so smooth it felt like nothing and some where I got my shit rocked.
The mighty Ungawa is dead? Rangers who have never been through desert phase, paratroopers who have never gone off the tower, the world is a whack-a-doodle place now.
Fun Fact: You don't needa parachute to go skydiving. But you need one if you want to go twice.
Thats pure savage
1:13 Thats what I call a successful delivery!
As a former Rigger...the first test was packing one...the second is jumping it!!!
Loved the video!
8:45 Hitting of the tail fin was added to design of the ejection seat, so that the pilot would not eject from the plane for fun.
5:40 this only works in very ideal conditions: at the first gust of wind they get scattered everywhere. The actual reason is that, given the training and skills of the average grunt, the ability to steer would do more arms than good: pilots and special units, which are not so expendables, receive more training and better parachutes.
Worst part of jump school is ground week. Not because of difficulty, but because you spend so much time jumping into a gravel pit learning to plf. The t11 had a ridiculously high injury rate for a good bit, buddies of mine that are still in and pulling duties hated them for a very long time. Sof uses the mc6 for static line jumps, took me quite a while to completely master it, since the first half of my time was spent in division jumping the -10d, and you have to turn into the wind. Guy didn't mention the constant trouble riggers get into. When i lived in the barracks in division, my walk to pt every morning passed the 782nd rigger company, and every day there was more maroon berets than red hats. Because they screwed up and were pulled off packing.
My grandfather occasionally would tell of jumping into Normandy if he was drunk. His best friend was shot and killed on the way down and evidently his unit had so many landing injuries that they were folded into another unit. He questioned if it wasn't too wasteful of solders to parachute them into an active battlefield. He had great stories about the women of France and how many times he got laid though. Ended up on a troop ship coming home after the war and the conditions they endured made him a bit bitter about how the US government didn't care about it's soldiers (they all almost starved to death anchored off the coast after boarding, and no one in the Allied command structure seemed to care) I think they threatened to take over the ship and run it aground and that finely got food and fuel delivered so they could make the Atlantic crossing back to the US.
Thanks for adding metric units.
My dad was in the Army in the late 50's. He's terrified of flying but he hated the idea of being shipped off to Germany even more. So off to Fort Benning he went for paratrooper training. He made 8 jumps and never suffered a scratch.
While in the 82nd I jumped the T-10 and the Dash 1. When the Dash 1 first came out they did a mass tac and everyone steered into each other. The T-10 wasnt steerable. After that little fiasco the Dash 1, at least while I was there, was used in a limited capacity.
The T-10C wasn’t very maneuverable either but you could dump air for a slightly quicker descent rate. They were however pretty terrible about oscillation. We used to steal each other’s air and leap frog our way down. I’d love to jump a T-11 just for fun the extra hang time would be serene. Not so great on a combat jump I’d imagine.
everytime he said riggers had me dying🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
It won't kill you. And hopefully you'll grow out of it in a few years.
The myth of issuing non-steerable parachutes keeps being perpetuated by the military, either you train the troops or you don’t. Non-steerable parachutes result in far more injuries than steerable. It’s possible to net the mods to avoid one of the risks and the risk of collision is a myth, I’ve had multiple collisions in un model/ non-steerable parachutes but none under steerable chutes.
*hundreds of people airdropping using steerable parachute*
Sounds like PUBG to me
1:21 he got us in the first half ngl
Great video. I jumped 5 times, twice with a round canopy and 3 times with a square. First 3 landings were ok. 4th was a belly landing because of overspeed and 5th I braked too soon so I came down quite hard. I quit because the instructors let me trying to fold my own parachute while I wasn’t instructed to do that.
They were following the safety protocols. Unless you are a licensed rigger, you are not supposed to touch another's main. The "student" is supposed to connect the static line or pin, while being supervised by a licensed/competent person. All the same, a trash-packing opens just fine... they want to open. If not, that is why you have a reserve.
"Contrary to popular belief, you don't need a parachute to go skydiving. But you do need it if you want to go twice."
how no idea there was so much about the parachute or how going back to an old design was the way to go
Hi
@ 0:43 this is not a parisian observatory but a southern one in Montpellier call "tour de la babotte" still present nowadays
Keep going
Regards
never really explained what the reason for being square is, 4:50 or so you mentioned T11 vs T10 is slower, square shaped, and has reduced oscillations, but what does being square vs being circle do to make these benefits vs just making a different circular design?
My cousin was the first enlisted man to jump onto Corregidor in 1945. He lived to tell about it despite low altitude, savage winds and plenty of machine-gun bullets.
Doesn't mention the french inventor dying trying to show off his para(suit) not chute lol. He jumped from the Eiffle Tower if i remember right, trying to prove his invention worked, in front of thousands of people, but due to the short distance, bad luck and unfavorable winds, his chute/suit didn't open enough to arrest his fall, and he died in front of everyone. But had already proven the concept before, on a luckier day.
Excellent mention why Airborne mass drops don't use steerable parachutes. And pointing out that a parachute is not needed for skydiving unless you want to do it twice.
Military before parachutes were a thing:
General: alright, jump
Some paratrooper: but sir we're really high up!!
General: I . S.A.I.D J.U.M.P.
I love the script it's always creative 😂😂😂
Great piece. Thank you
"Contrary to popular belief, you actually don't need a parachute to go skydiving!"
"..but you do need one if you wanna go twice."
did not expect that lol. made my afternoon
"Cargo can be quickly delivered to remote area", cargo proceeds to crush itself out of existence
I wanna walk into that room and yell "What up my riggers!?!?"
"Contrary to popular belief. You don't need a parachute to go skydiving, but you need one if you wanna go skydiving twice."
This got coffee all over my desk ...
0:12 can someone give me a link to a video of this pls
Australia also experimented with aerial resupply in WW1 with General Monash getting RAAF planes to drop machine gun ammo after the assault at Hamel. Although this was mainly a small parachute pulling the ammo box out from under the plane's wings then it crashing down near the gunners.
The whole time I'm watching this a movie called Operation Dumbo Drop has come to mind.
I'm glad this technology is still getting improvements.
fun fact the ejection seats on the b58 were tested on bears
Loved being a parachute rigger
LOL- "but you do need one if you want to go twice"
"i went on sky diving just once" never again
1:28 reminds me, when asked if somethings edible try replying: you can eat anything once.
That clam shell ejection seat looks awesome, especially the version that can float!
Of course Leonardo Da Vinci would have designed an illuminati pyramid version.
If you want to go twice! Love it.
Retired Airborne guy here with quite a lot of time on Jump status, primarily jumping the T-10B/C, and MC1-1 B/C parachutes. I joke that that parachutes should be round, as God made them, but in reality I'm glad to see the rate of descent reduced anyway possible. I used to slam into the ground and while I was never injured did witness one or two gruesome accidents. However, the real threat is the number of relatively minor injuries like sprains and fractures, especially when after the drop you have to walk a few miles. I would add that one of the major innovations which brought the T-10 into being was the incorporation of the Deployment or "D-Bag" into the system. The parachute is packed into a deployment bag, separate from the risers and suspension lines so that those are fully extended by the jumpers fall prior to the canopy being pulled from the D-Bag. In this way the canopy is not damaged by the risers and is less likely to get twisted by them. many malfunctions simply disappeared following that change. The other major change coming in with the T-10B is the incorporation of an anti-inversion net at the hem of the canopy. This is just a form of sting netting sewn into the hem which prevents the canopy from folding in on itself while being opened. A complete inversion does not contribute to a higher rate of descent, but complete inversion are rare. Normally what was seen was the infamous "Mae West" or partial canopy which is very dangerous. Also, inversions contribute to blown gores or other damage to the canopy, particularly after the adoption of nylon as the primary material. Heated nylon goes from being very supple and strong to brittle and weak. Any time the canopy is rubbing against itself that friction will heat the canopy up really fast making it brittle. It just becomes regular plastic and breaks. Regarding steerable canopies....this is an idea that briefs well but is questionable in execution. We only jumped steerable canopies (MC1-1) when the numbers were small and generally that's only to avoid an obstacle on the ground. Otherwise hands off the toggles until landing and then only to turn the canopy into the wind. In a real operation steering around the air is dangerous. Also it's usually at night and you can't see anything anyway.
This music got me grooving
I still feel like a coordinated jump with maneuverable chutes, or better yet, paramotors that can fly a couple meters off the ground, would be pretty useful. Like, you can execute the drop from relative safety and troops can fly around any air defenses or below the radar.
Sure, it requires coordination to avoid the injuries caused by collisions, but I think lift-generating wings are inherently advantageous and so is having a power source. Especially for some kind of small strike team operating in contested airspace.
SOF units do use ram air canopies for HALO and HAHO jumps but military freefal training is expensive and it would be too costly to train divisions how to do MFF.
Not for significantly sized units, firstly you aren't intending to drop in areas that have AD, secondly the goal is to spend less time as a target in the air, not more.
You add engines, you add radar reflectivity, sound and heat sources all a bad idea.
Awesome love you vids keep up the good work
If I was still in the millitary I would refuse to jump with a square parachute ..... SO uncool man!
5:23 ooh man nothing can beat Juliet Drop zone, if you know you know.
When I was in the Army I only jumped the T10D.... I've never got the jump the new chutes I wish I could have.... they brought them into the Army a couple years after I got out
Cargo drop fails are pretty fun to watch, not gonna lie.
Round will get you down, Square will get you there! (Ram-Air parachute)
haha "you dont need a parachute, but you do if you wanna do it twice."
To pay for my jumps at the DZ, I'd pack the student gear. Five rigs paid for one jump, so doing five jumps in a day involved packing 30 parachutes. I got my exercise.
"Dave" just couldn't get past five-second freefalls, he was always in a flat spin to the right so his jumpmaster wouldn't sign him off to do longer jumps, and the line twists on opening were pissing him off too. I made a custom pack job just for him, turning the deployment bag three times to the right before closing the container. Dave thought I was a genius until he managed to spin to the left and it sniveled on him for a thousand feet. No more custom pack jobs. The DZ operator had me teach him to pack his own gear -the poor guy had become a regular- to save him some money. He watched me flaking the panels, making them drape cleanly, s-folding them into the bag, and stowing the lines but was leery of doing it himself, but I handed it off to him and kept an eye on him from a distance.
Then one of the experienced jumpers had to be a wiseass. He walked up, sniffed loudly, and said "I smell something." Bending down, he took a loud whiff of the rig Dave was packing and proclaimed, "Smells like... DEATH!"
The DZ operator came up, looked things over, crossed his arms, shook his head, and added, "Scares me and *I'm* fearless." I had to promise to jump the rig myself to peel the poor guy off the ceiling.
So that's where I picked up that phrase.
Lol “…if you want to go twice”
I was under the impression that it was Italy who first deployed Paratroops, with Russia a close second, but as a special purpose force. Italy doesn't get credit for many of the things she developed in the inter war period. Secondly, North Korea had square parachutes in 1951, as stated by Chuck Yeager, who shot down a Mig and saw the pilot bail out. That doesn't mean it was the same as this chute though. Thirdly, I thought that low level drops were the key to not getting your troops shot up on their way down, those new chutes might be the answer to the problem of not having enough time to break the fall before it broke you.
Very informative video.!!
Almost nothing about modern sport parachutes and their amazing range of capabilities.
As time went on, all the early parachutes failed to keep up with the times and the young parachutes started to call them squares.
This video suffers a serious lack of airborne troops singing "Blood on the Risers"
I heard Benjamin Franklin came up with the idea of vertical envelopement by military troops. He was in Europe for both the parachute and the hot air balloon.
Re paratroopers not using steerables, the big reason not to use them is that you would literally have an entire battalion steering towards the softest/clearest looking spot on the DZ, the collision rate would skyrocket.
Also that means that they can not turn into the wind to land. Ps, I have done nearly 200 jumps and I am qualified to pack them so I have a bit of experience.
I've done 75 as a paratrooper, the other reason is that when you are jumping at 750ft, there is only limited utility to steering, take out 175ft for deployment, then you have canopy check (deal with twists if you have them), look around for possible collisions, lower your equipment and assess drift you probably only have about 3-400 feet (vertical) to steer in.
I'm a parachute rigger, so I'll be watching this video with my fact checker revved up and ready~
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@@NotWhatYouThink I didn't hear anything that goes against my knowledge. This channel really does its homework! AWESOME!
Hello!! How is Rigger life these days?
"I will be sure, always" is the motto of the US Paratrooper Riggers...because The Sky, Even More Than the Sea, is Unforgiving.