How to Master a .357mag Snubbie!..Minimum Rounds & Practice Time?
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Snubby .357 Mag...Much like a lighter .44 Mag revolver, the secret is to just let the muzzle come back down on target before trigger pressing again, and ignoring finger pain because the real mastery is being able to not flinch. Means rapid fire is slower, but that's okay because one shot from a magnum is about as good as 47 rounds of 9mm.
I agree with Yankee that .38 Special is the better way to go for most of your practice, but I personally think a good Buffalo Bore or Underwood .38 Special+P is a good medium between practice and more power for carry ammo.
Another fudd talking about all the effective ammo he'll never hit anything with.
One 44 magnum is equivalent to 47 9 mms? Please explain, how so.
I am not a masochist for punishment, but those who want to try it, by all means go ahead and enjoy yourselves. If the 357 is not enough excitement for you, there are .44 mag snub nosed revolvers available.
Yeah, but not at 12 ounces. 😁
My buddy wanted to carry his .357 scandium revolver as his backup, so our range officer made him qualify with it in full house loads. It's a short course of fire, only 30 rounds, but the pocket between his thumb and pointer finger looked like someone had hit him with a brick after he finished.
Quite right. One thing, though. For the 340PD S&W specifically says DO NOT shoot .38 special, minimum cartridge is .38+P. Since the 360PD is the same gun (aluminum alloy frame, titanium cylinder) but with external hammer the same constraint should apply.
357 hurts the shooter, makes everyone in a 30 foot radius deaf and is more effective on target than any other handgun caliber.
Dirty Harry says .44 magnum
@@warmonger1362 yes there are more powerful rounds.
You meant 'no more effective' right?
@@curly__3I believe so, considering I was taught "it's not what you hit them with, it's where you hit them". Shot placement.
@@curly__3 If you don't think the .44 is more effective, then you should watch the Paul Harrel .357 magnum vs .44 magnum video.
More gun advice; don't use jelly to clean you guns or they might jam up on you.
If your gun can turn jelly into jam, we might have a new gun Jesus... sorry Ian. 😂
@@whelper4231 Fun Fact : Back during the Revolutionary war, those that were assigned to the artillery battery used to clean the jelly from the cannon barrels after firing a lot of grape shot.
@@lanceblinent7909 The wine could have been... Revolutionary! 💥🇺🇲🤣
Some guns hurt worse than others. I had a S&W 1917 ,.45 ACP. It hurt me more than a .44 magnum. I practice often with my SP101, no trouble. I also had a Ruger LCR in .38 and I found it very uncomfortable to shoot. Sold it too.
I carry a 19 oz. Ruger LCR .357. A cylinder of heavy .357 hurts my hand for a week so i practice w/ .38 + P. I carry Federal 125gr. Hydroshok .357!
Just 5 shots, that’s all?
@@mikem.2078 ...and a speed loader! Don't have gangs here, only Bears. I'll carry my MP5 w/ magpul D60 drum or Bushmaster XM15 w/ Beta C mag if I feel nervous, but I can hit 5x5 out to 35 yds with the snub and tickle beer cans at 100 occasionally 😅!
@@hatchetjack1031 No, sorry I meant, only firing 5 or so shots and 357 hurts the hand?
@@mikem.2078 w/ heavy 158 gr. And a 73yo hand! I'm afraid so!
My model 36 with the original wood grips, even with 38 spec loads, left my hand bloody. I swapped out to hogues. That helped a lot.
Hearing damage from firing a magnum, or many magnums is unlikely unless it's close enough to the head to blow out your ear drum completely. While it WILL damage your hearing, think of your hearing as having a gauge of 1,000,000 notches. Shooting 5 shots of .357 Magnum brings your 1,000,000 down to like 999, 897. It's damage, but not enough to ever know in your lifetime.
My brother is the president of a hearing aid company. He's never had a customer come in complaining they shot a lot of guns now they can't hear, rather they are all people who worked in factories or at airports or other full time jobs with nonstop sound, even if that sound isn't particularly high in db's.
thank you for the timely advice, i was trying too hard by shooting 357 out my snubbie, it does hurt like hell on my hand, thought it was just me, now i know, thanks
I agree with most of your points but I will say that practicing with a cylinder or two of 357 during my range visits has had a positive effect on my overall skills with a revolver. I can get lazy, not purposely, when shooting 38 special out of my all steel 649 and shooting the 357 magnum makes me focus more on the importance of my grip and posture.
Good point! I always used to shoot my carry ammo every so often as it needed to be replaced anyway, just in case it went bad. It is a fun way to test your skills at the range. 😁
I suppose if something breaks out, you can always duck for cover and take out a pair of foam earplugs and put those in, and then go for the snubby. 😆
You got me to laugh when you stated that you would allow a bad guy to rape you rather to fire a .357 Mag round out of your light weight snubby. I own a 340 PD S&W and fired a 20 rd box of factory .357 Mag defense rounds out of it and I concluded that I would never do that again. As you stated I was concerned about developing I flinch due to the punishing recoil. This is a wonderful video--congratulations.
He's been telling that joke for years, but it's still funny! 😂
Helpful advice. Thanks.
Good timing. I just bought my first 357 snubbie.
Agreed my 605 hurts after a box of 357. 96 grain 38s its s pop gun and helps me focus and squeeze .
I usually need a little focus and squeeze before I pop too! 😋
I had a snubby 5 shot I carried 3 38 special and 2 357 rounds worked fine with me
Yep, that's how I was trained, even about the difference between range .38 special and the +P, (Partly cause of the expense I guess, but also I was taucht that very rationale. I'd tend to do a full cylinder of the +P with either handonce in a while just for familiarity's sake and the rest would just be some practice.
The only thing that hurts me when firing .357 snub revolvers is my wallet.
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Good advice.
You actually game some expert advice. I agree.
How to make your snub, your sub? 🤔
And NO, that doesn't mean ass play...Yankee.. 😒
And NO, that doesn't mean [backdoor] play...Yankee.. 😒
*added because the original reply was censored. 😅
I love the 8 round .357 snubbies...wonderful self defense weapon...
N order to get the full benefit of 357 magnum u need at least 4 inches of barrel.. Anything less n ur just getting more powder. . Stick with 38+p for snubs
Even though you are not getting the full benefit, you are still getting a lot more out of the magnum than the 38+p in most cases. It is whether the extra velocity and power is worth the extra blast, recoil, and noise. It is not worth it for me. I carry 38+p in my snubs too.
Maybe Buffalo Bore +Ps get close, but still a little shy I believe. ✌
@@whelper4231 That is exactly the round I had in my head when I was typing. lol. I think in a 357 mag revolver I would just opt for lower powered 357's but it is cool that Buffalo Bore offers them for people ith 38+p chambered revolvers. I am sure you get the blast and recoil from them though (I've never tried them). There is no free lunch, so if recoil, blast, and noise is what the shooter is avoiding then it still wouldn't make sense. Buffalo also offers 357 specifically made for short barrelled revolvers which is super appealing.
Buffalo bore 125 gr 1700 fps,
Gets about 1400 out of a snubby. This is my carry ammo and it is STOUT. Lmao
Took my Ruger to the range this past weekend, got humbled at how poorly I shoot the snub nose. I’ll still carry it, it isn’t for “plinking” it’s for close up defense. But I must admit I was shocked 😳 at how poorly I shot with it
Keep practicing, I know it gets expensive but you can do it. I mastered my j frames.
I have a four in 357 which I've owned for several years. I'm 59 and find this gun is snubby enough for me and is quite painful for me to shoot. Yes i do wear hearing aids.
Considering my next pistol is going to be a Taurus 357, I'm going to be testing this advice shortly...though considering I was carrying a Public Defender (Judge) for the last 3 years, I think I'll be fine lol
We shall watch your progress with great interest. 😆
Taurus 605 and 66 owner here. The 66 is a tank and FUN to shoot. The 605, my advice, would be to AVOID the Poly version of the snub and get the steel version. Not only have I seen negative reviews of it, mine had to be sent back twice before it became usable and it being lighter makes it that much worse when shooting .357.
Well honestly I carry my sp101 357
snub with 38+p , yeah 357 mag will beat you up and your ear but only in snub nose revolver . You can have a 357 mag revolver in 4" to 6" at home for Home defense.
Why have a sidearm that you are too scared of to become competent with ? A .357 mag snubbie is about the worst defensive sidearm that there is for most people. Main reason being , follow up shots. The weapon completely changes location in your hand every time you fire it. It is as loud as the crack of a lightning bolt and has the corresponding flash of said lightning bolt as well. Other than that, ITS GREAT !
My brother had (maybe still has) a 4-shot .44 magnum snubbie. I don't think he fired it much.
true and your only going to need a few rounds if you should defend your self, it will only last 3 to 6 seconds and bad guys on average scatter after first hot, you will most likely be closer the 7 yards so accuracy isnt going to be a big issue, the context also is private citizen so you simply defend and take cover, you wont be chasing bad guys putting on cuffs or chasing in your car, so in that context is how it will be and outdraw your opponent using scoop draw and getting that first shot, its going to be loud and even if say you dont hit anything bad guys statistically dont stay for the gun fight especailly if you outdraw them the fear in them is who gets a bullet even if its a 5 shot revolver, in general no one likes getting shot or shot at, its not like john wick or walking dead that so many people watch saying what about muliple attackers and imagining situations that are more rare then slipping on a banana peel where your going to come out worse then your gun fight, millions of reports every year where citizen showed gun or shot once they all took off running, even your grand dads 22 revolver, proves that when you fight back with any gun as a private citizen they are almost always cowards, if not use cover and defend, dont be a idiot chasing bad guys out in the open, they want you then let them come to your tactical advantage
I’ve been in a gunfight w/my department .38, had to reload under fire, never heard a thing and didn’t notice the recoil. My EDC in retirement is a 340PD I’ve had for years and it’s loaded w/+P. I fired five magnum loads when I first got it and never did that again. The recoil was painful & too severe for fast or accurate follow up shots.
Under 20 ounces just NO (except maybe last round)...20-24 OUNCES a medium 125 magnum like Golden Saber is most people can handle half way. I MAY be able to handle quickly and ACCURATELY the SDR I'm hoping to show with the almost full 125 Federal Train & Protect but I'll likely have to change grips. Now I can Bill Drill 27 ounce Rossi Rp63 or Sp101 etc w Full power .357 but most can't. Physics is physics and most suck at shooting fundamentals & recoil control and most certainly leisurely Target or plinking IS NOT Training. From both 16 ounce Charter Arms Boxer & an 856 UL most can't even handle .38+P though I will show it with Punch & Hydrashok Deep perhaps upcoming. But I TRAIN 3x/ month seriously, often timed, and I'm strong even w a disability. If LE hit ratio is 20% what makes people w no formal training think they will hit more & w Magnums in a under 20 ounce snub bahahahahahahahaah. Physics is Physics what weight the revolver is Really Matters.
It's difficult to miss at arms length or closer... don't get me wrong, the cops can do it though... 😒
What do you think about the Aguila 125 gr soft points rated 1500 + fps? Go lower?
@@mikem.2078 soft points are for hunting w 8" dude and they actually kinda suck for that not snubs for defense come on. Top brand JHPS ONLY
Nice video. Would a 3 inch python make it a litte easier on your hands? I haven't shot one yet and I'm not sure if that's still considered a snubby. Thanks
I was wondering the same about S and W model 60-15. It’s a j frame but 3” doesn’t seem that snubbie to me.
Three inch is still a snub-nose. And yes, the extra weight of a Python over something like a J-frame will help absorb recoil.
Ruger SP101, it way heavier then even S&W 60, but it srill not fun to with 357 mag.
I also train with a Smith .22 Airligjt for more revolver trigger time.
Gotta work that finger, baby! 😄
@@whelper4231 thats what my RIA M206 is for. I use it for dry fire abuse and thats it.
@@dancruzeDid you leave the wood grips on it or put the bigger polymer one on? I had to change out the panels that came on the Model 10 because I needed the webbing part between the grip frame and trigger guard. It didn't feel right without that filler.
@@whelper4231 good point. I left the wood grips on but I should switch it up and use the plastic grips that also came with it. It will create more space meaning longer grip for the exercise.
And of course I ALWAYS make sure it's unloaded before even though I never load that one.
Bill Jorden mastered the revolver by shooting thousands of reloads using only primers and wax or cotton ball projectiles.
Just make sure the 38 special and the 357 rounds you choose have about the same POI. I know it is a close range gun, but still be as close as possible. for the POI.
Apologies because this is likely obvious to most here.
I would just make sure that the 357 self defense ammo is accurate in your wheelgun like your 38 practice ammo.
I shoot 50 rounds of 357 in my s&w model 60-14 snubbie with no ill effects every week
Well then, we'll just call you Ironhand from now on! 😜
Same, but with my Tarus Protector Poly. I'm 40 years old, and I'm a little worried about arthritis in the years to come, but my my joints don't hurt after use, so i don't know. 🤷
Get the fire arm mag da ported
If I grow up I wanna be just like Yankee!
Well then you'll want to start being a degenerate now... oh, wait. 😏
What is the best snub 357 in your opinion yankee?
S&W 360pd or 327pc, depending on what you are looking for exactly.
@@whelper4231 Kimber K6s DAO. It has got all the necessary features--6-shots, no exposed hammer, proper weight, good sights and even night sights are available.
@@larryminton2670 Hi! You must be new here. We don't do revolvers without a hammer to cock for precision shots if need be. It's a Yankee tradition. 🤠
Very nice gun otherwise though. 👍
If I’m going to carry a 357 snubbie, it’s definitely going to be a steel frame gun. Something that powerful in a 12 ounce gun is just way too masochistic for me.
yep
Still got nuthin' I see... 😢
Didn't you abuse your hands enough when you were a teeneager...? Why abuse them when you're older?
I am a master with my right hand and it's not with a FIREARM lol.
I’m thinking a lot of people who buy .357 Magnum snobbiest, take them to the range, don’t like the felt recoil, go home, stick the gun in a drawer or safe and never touch it again. Just sayin
🐒🐒🐒 just sayin just sayin just sayin :
The answer to this question lies in 357Sig........perhaps a certain model of Glock?
Sig doesn’t make Glock. Run 357 Sig in a Sig?
Gaaarry! 😭
First, yanky will cut the video in where he blew his eardrum out with one shot from a 357 at an indoor range with one ear plug removed...i think that was about 5 years ago, right yanky? So the first thing you do is blow your eardrums out just to get that out of the way, because if you ever actually shoot a 357 2 or 3 inch revolver indoors or outdoors without hearing protection, there goes your eardrums. Even a 6 inch 357 with full power loads is insanely painful without hearing protection on...
45 acp will look like the best round to anyone that has ever shot a few rounds of 357 or 10mm without hearing pro on...even 40 s&w is a bit loud but doable...
I've made this argument to him before... he shot me down, but that may just be because it's me. 😅
If you are shooting a revolver with a barrel less than four inches, you have a mental problem.
“Teets of knowledge “ is unique imagery. You kind of lost me after that.
If recoil is a problem, complain until the FBI declares 10mm too powerful, .40sw too powerful, and goes back to 9mm so your poor widdle wrists don’t get sore.🤣
And small people (women?) can qualify without costly retraining and less expensive ammunition.
😃 Knuck
In the past the civilian and police would compete head to head. The police got tired of loosing to civilians. Why because the civilians don't practice with duty ammo. The police do. Duty ammo is too expensive for practice.
Why can't you just use one hand to plug an ear and other hand to shoot 357 gun so you only go half deaf?
Daily topic, Smith and Wesson sucks .. two months ago I purchased a brand new 629 PC and got it home and realized the barrel was over tightened and off to the left . I immediately sent it back to smith and they had it for 8 weeks and it just arrived back today and it worse than when I sent it in. Not only is it still canted it looks like they fired 500 rounds of it. Came back with heavy draglines and filthy. Not sure what’s going on with smith and Wesson but I’m done with the brand. I lowered my standards from colt and bought that POS against my better judgement. Horrible Quality control, horrible customer service and apparently the gunsmiths are legally blind. The gun is being returned for a refund.
You're out standing in your field. Not outstanding, out standing.
Nope. Carry a .357 snub is the dumbest thing you can do. Only gun I've ever owned that I will never shoot 357s through. Only 38s. On it's 2nd round the timing was off and it sent a piece of jacket into my cheek. And it was a performance center gun.
There you go again...screwing around with calibers that come nothing close to the .44 magnum...Go get yourself a Smith and Wesson model 29-2.
Ok, dirty boy... 🤪
I'm better than you in every way possible
Revolvers are obsolete. Collecters like revolvers.
Learn to spell before you type something fucking stupid.
Hi Yankee. Do you think 30 Super Carry could be a good replacement for people that like 38 SPL if manufacturers can put one more round on the cylinder keeping the same diameter (maybe 7 or 8 rounds)?
30 SC seems to be dying. Never took off.
@@amadablam8229 I know, but it could go well in revolvers!
30 Super Carry (which is weirdly a .32 caliber) has a higher chamber pressure than .357 magnum or even .327 magnum, so I don't think you are going to get more rounds with that. They tried this with .327 magnum, and it hasn't done well. Ruger's GP100 came in a 7 shot .327, but you can get the same gun with 7 shots of .357, so... meh. The recoil is too much anyway if what you are looking for is something close to .38 special's feel. You can look for an old .32 H&R magnum wheel gun or get one of the new S&W Ultimate Defense line revolvers in .32 H&R, but these are only going to be 6 shots in a normally 5 shot small frame gun. The ammo can be hard to get and/or expensive as well because it's no longer very popular unfortunately. ✌😕