While hip-hop has its roots in Black American culture, it’s crucial to recognize that hip-hop has always been a collective, multicultural movement. Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, and people from all backgrounds played pivotal roles, whether through reggae, dancehall, or contributing to early block parties and b-boy culture. The truth is, no matter where we were enslaved-whether in America, the Caribbean, or Latin America-we are all still Black. The divisions that sometimes get created within our communities are exactly what those in power want, and unfortunately, we give them that power by allowing those lines to be drawn. Hip-hop is a reflection of our shared struggle, our shared creativity, and our shared fight for freedom. It belongs to all of us.
multicultural means to represent several different cultures. The only way hip hop would truly be multicultural is if 🇵🇷 and 🇯🇲 added thier own cultural elements. Which they didnt, they assimilated into black American culture. The four elements came exclusively from Black 🇺🇸. Rapping - Jubalaires 1940s, Pigmeat Markum 1968. DJing - Pete DJ Jones and Grandmaster Flowers, Jacko Henderson . Breakdancing - Mills Brothers 1930s later in the early 70s Trixie and Sasa. Graffiti - Cornbread 1960s. If you can show a video of 🇵🇷🇯🇲 doing anything similar before the items I mentioned
@@donaldlyons180 I understand where you’re coming from, and it’s true that the four elements music, dance, art, and spoken word have existed in various forms for centuries. However, what we know as hip-hop specifically came together as a cohesive culture in the 1970s in the Bronx. Before that, people may have practiced elements like rhythmic drumming, storytelling, or graffiti, but they weren’t calling it hip-hop or engaging with it as part of a unified movement.
@@donaldlyons180 Like Coke La Rock emphatically stated ...They never had soundsystems in the 60s in America no history no soundsystem dances . Black american historians tried to claim Coxsonne got the idea from juke box they dont realise sound system been in JA since late 40s way before Downbeat . First soundsystem in America was King Charles ( a King Tubbies soldier ) who shipped his massive set to Queens in Carolina Carribeans built sets . Plus Americans alot of ideas from soundsystems like air horn & the spin back . Duke was rubbing music back n forth way before the first bronx djs . Not only do the pioneers have wicked early ska & studio 1 they also have reggae break beat n they tuff !! JA have the art of burial , dub plate pressure & king Tubbies earthquake dub ...theres levels to this game lolol hip hop is a kiddies music its good but talk nonsense
I was born in 77 so I wasn’t there. From my knowledge, research, and love for hip hop since I was 10 years old, I’d say that Puerto Ricans and other Caribbean people were there, but it was created by American Blacks. The whole style, music etc was American Blacks. If no Ricans or Jamaicans weren’t there, hip hop still would’ve been what it is. If there were no American Blacks, no hip hop peace ✌️
@@trueknowledge9383 let me ask you two questions. Has there been a historical precedent of mixing between Caribbean people and American blacks? Have you spent time in the Bronx back in the day?
@ I’ll answer your second question first - no, again I was born in 77. I do know Blacks and Puerto Ricans who were of age during the origins of hip hop. Second, from what I was told by them, most ethnic groups stayed to themselves. The majority of Ricans in NY were engulfed in the salsa era, Fania Records, Willie Colon etc. Yes there were some Ricans and Caribbean people who hung with American Blacks. The thing is this - from what I was told - they assimilated into American Black culture. A lot of Caribbeans were frowned upon by their families for hanging with American Blacks. I still contend that without Caribbean people, hip hop still would’ve been what it became. ✌️
@@Me-gm6kwnot in significant numbers. FlatBush, East Flatbush, BX and Crownheights have large Carribean population, they started immigrating in large numbers in the 1970’s after the Immigration Act of 1965. Prior to that these areas were majority black Americans. After almost 60 years of immigration to the same neighborhood of course it’s different now Look a Harlem, historical a black enclave (outside of Spanish Harlem) now you have a large Latino and Senegalese population there
Imagine if other Caribbean people started claiming that they were responsible for reggae and dancehall just as much as Jamaicans? The practice of "Toasting" was not exclusive to Jamaica.The term "toasting" was. Even the idea of "freestyling" over a beat 1v1 was happening in other islands as early as the 30's. Cultures and styles are created by the contributions of many over time. But hiphop is as black American as Reggae and dancehall are Jamaican. It all came together in America led and dominated by American blacks. Accept it and keep it moving. We can still have community and accept that as truth.
@ No, they’re Jamaican. Black is a term that was embraced by FBA’s. Just because we look alike doesn’t make us the same. We have similar ancestors, but we’re culturally and socially different enough that a distinction is appropriate.
I agree. If you're gonna give it to everyone around and involved then you might as well just say New Yorkers in general cuz I'm sure there was all sorts of people around that gravitated towards it... If you want to be specific then it's black Americans.
Thank you for watching the video and taking the time to comment! This video isn’t intended to take a stance but rather to provide a small piece of information and shed light on a few facts. It’s not meant to discredit the majority contributions of Black artists to hip-hop.
FBA🏴Nation🏴 ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿 •We are the culture• Go back and name 10 Puerto Rican rapper or major DJs from 1984/85 Kool moe D Ll cool J UTFO Run-Dmc Kurtis Blow Beastie Boys Public Enemy These were the hip hop forefront when money came in the picture…. Once again we let anybody join but we are hip hop. Fat joe is a liar Ricans didn’t create anything. They were calling us Moreno and said rap was monkey muisc. Most Black people are mixed so we won’t go their at all but we will say lil young hood kids created and every body hated it even old black parents. My parents called it a fad and I’m born in 1979. James brown was the soul to all hip hop and FBA was the Creators. This is Factz
Listen Rap and Hip Hop “music” is a Black creation. You have the ‘40s Jubilaires. Even have black music groups in the early 1900’s that had the rap sense. HOWEVER the Hip Hop “Culture” started when it integrated from all races of the struggle and created its lifestyle. So yes Black, Puerto Ricans, and even whites were in the beginning of the Culture. There it’s settled.
@ it’s the struggle of the less fortunate finding a way to escape the noise. So they create their own sound, art, dance, and production. And the culture is EVERYTHING that has to do with Hip Hop. Now I GUARANTEE that’s a better definition than you can muster up with your boxed in mind
@ I was in a rap group in Chicago in the mid to late 90’s. Met Da Brat and Do Or Die. I grew up in a Puerto Rican and Black neighborhood. And even some whites. We all were in the struggle living the street life. So I’m pretty sure I know a little about Hip Hop
@@GapGod78 lets unpack what you said “sound, art, dance” ill add language to that. Language - why wasn’t hip hop created in Spanish? Sound - hip hop started out using funk and disco music all black American music, James Brown is the most sample artist in hip hop. Can you name a Puerto Rican who has been sampled on a consistent basis? Dance - all of the dances I see are black American creations. Why wasn’t Salsa, bomba or any other traditional Puerto Rican dances blended into hip hop?
@@GapGod78 excellent, Da Brat and Do Or Die are black Americans, more than likely with Roots in Mississippi. In fact the majority of the most successful hip hop artists out of Chicago are black Americans….Am I wrong?
LUV fat joe......,he knows though blacks made rap 1st and everything spinned off that breaking,graffiti etc.......Puerto Ricans were mostly beakers and graffiti artist....❤
Even if Puerto Ricans aren’t the main contributors or main players in hip-hop, what’s the problem with acknowledging the hand they did have in the start up? Facts versus feelings, folks. Let’s just at least keep it real.
@ I just learned that Fat Joe said something about blacks and Puerto Ricans creating hip/hop 50/50. I wouldn’t consider that true. I also wouldn’t consider that FBA’s created hip hop on their own to be true. Both are BS. Like I said to the non believers, what FBA was doing what Kool Herc was doing before him?
Someone already put down Gospel music Jubilaries but you also had country music Talking Blues Chris Bouchilon (th-cam.com/video/u9No8th4q90/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TK-cT_6Seotz9-Ue he couldn't sing so he did rhymes with his banjo), and the Beatniks Beat Poetry contributions to hip hop.
@@imahotep not created but contributed to it, beat poetry: Gill Scott Heron's "The Revolution will not be televised" was Beat Poetry. Cab Callaway's Skatt was also a contributor in my opinion. Not the creators but contributors same with Chris Bouchilon "Talking Blues"
While hip-hop has its roots in Black American culture, it’s crucial to recognize that hip-hop has always been a collective, multicultural movement. Jamaicans, Puerto Ricans, and people from all backgrounds played pivotal roles, whether through reggae, dancehall, or contributing to early block parties and b-boy culture. The truth is, no matter where we were enslaved-whether in America, the Caribbean, or Latin America-we are all still Black. The divisions that sometimes get created within our communities are exactly what those in power want, and unfortunately, we give them that power by allowing those lines to be drawn. Hip-hop is a reflection of our shared struggle, our shared creativity, and our shared fight for freedom. It belongs to all of us.
multicultural means to represent several different cultures. The only way hip hop would truly be multicultural is if 🇵🇷 and 🇯🇲 added thier own cultural elements. Which they didnt, they assimilated into black American culture.
The four elements came exclusively from Black 🇺🇸. Rapping - Jubalaires 1940s, Pigmeat Markum 1968. DJing - Pete DJ Jones and Grandmaster Flowers, Jacko Henderson . Breakdancing - Mills Brothers 1930s later in the early 70s Trixie and Sasa. Graffiti - Cornbread 1960s.
If you can show a video of 🇵🇷🇯🇲 doing anything similar before the items I mentioned
@@donaldlyons180 I understand where you’re coming from, and it’s true that the four elements music, dance, art, and spoken word have existed in various forms for centuries. However, what we know as hip-hop specifically came together as a cohesive culture in the 1970s in the Bronx. Before that, people may have practiced elements like rhythmic drumming, storytelling, or graffiti, but they weren’t calling it hip-hop or engaging with it as part of a unified movement.
@@donaldlyons180 Like Coke La Rock emphatically stated ...They never had soundsystems in the 60s in America no history no soundsystem dances . Black american historians tried to claim Coxsonne got the idea from juke box they dont realise sound system been in JA since late 40s way before Downbeat . First soundsystem in America was King Charles ( a King Tubbies soldier ) who shipped his massive set to Queens in Carolina Carribeans built sets . Plus Americans alot of ideas from soundsystems like air horn & the spin back . Duke was rubbing music back n forth way before the first bronx djs . Not only do the pioneers have wicked early ska & studio 1 they also have reggae break beat n they tuff !! JA have the art of burial , dub plate pressure & king Tubbies earthquake dub ...theres levels to this game lolol hip hop is a kiddies music its good but talk nonsense
I was born in 77 so I wasn’t there. From my knowledge, research, and love for hip hop since I was 10 years old, I’d say that Puerto Ricans and other Caribbean people were there, but it was created by American Blacks. The whole style, music etc was American Blacks. If no Ricans or Jamaicans weren’t there, hip hop still would’ve been what it is. If there were no American Blacks, no hip hop peace ✌️
False
@ prove it
@@trueknowledge9383 let me ask you two questions. Has there been a historical precedent of mixing between Caribbean people and American blacks? Have you spent time in the Bronx back in the day?
@ I’ll answer your second question first - no, again I was born in 77. I do know Blacks and Puerto Ricans who were of age during the origins of hip hop. Second, from what I was told by them, most ethnic groups stayed to themselves. The majority of Ricans in NY were engulfed in the salsa era, Fania Records, Willie Colon etc. Yes there were some Ricans and Caribbean people who hung with American Blacks. The thing is this - from what I was told - they assimilated into American Black culture. A lot of Caribbeans were frowned upon by their families for hanging with American Blacks. I still contend that without Caribbean people, hip hop still would’ve been what it became. ✌️
@@Me-gm6kwnot in significant numbers. FlatBush, East Flatbush, BX and Crownheights have large Carribean population, they started immigrating in large numbers in the 1970’s after the Immigration Act of 1965. Prior to that these areas were majority black Americans. After almost 60 years of immigration to the same neighborhood of course it’s different now
Look a Harlem, historical a black enclave (outside of Spanish Harlem) now you have a large Latino and Senegalese population there
Imagine if other Caribbean people started claiming that they were responsible for reggae and dancehall just as much as Jamaicans? The practice of "Toasting" was not exclusive to Jamaica.The term "toasting" was. Even the idea of "freestyling" over a beat 1v1 was happening in other islands as early as the 30's. Cultures and styles are created by the contributions of many over time. But hiphop is as black American as Reggae and dancehall are Jamaican. It all came together in America led and dominated by American blacks. Accept it and keep it moving. We can still have community and accept that as truth.
@@grantos so Jamaicans aren’t black?
@ No, they’re Jamaican. Black is a term that was embraced by FBA’s. Just because we look alike doesn’t make us the same. We have similar ancestors, but we’re culturally and socially different enough that a distinction is appropriate.
I agree. If you're gonna give it to everyone around and involved then you might as well just say New Yorkers in general cuz I'm sure there was all sorts of people around that gravitated towards it... If you want to be specific then it's black Americans.
FBA 100 percent created Hip hop.. this video is playing games
Thank you for watching the video and taking the time to comment! This video isn’t intended to take a stance but rather to provide a small piece of information and shed light on a few facts. It’s not meant to discredit the majority contributions of Black artists to hip-hop.
The guy from Jamaica said he did not get it from Jamaica. He got it from Black people in the US.
FBA🏴Nation🏴
✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
•We are the culture•
Go back and name 10 Puerto Rican rapper or major DJs from 1984/85
Kool moe D
Ll cool J
UTFO
Run-Dmc
Kurtis Blow
Beastie Boys
Public Enemy
These were the hip hop forefront when money came in the picture….
Once again we let anybody join but we are hip hop.
Fat joe is a liar Ricans didn’t create anything.
They were calling us Moreno and said rap was monkey muisc.
Most Black people are mixed so we won’t go their at all but we will say lil young hood kids created and every body hated it even old black parents.
My parents called it a fad and I’m born in 1979.
James brown was the soul to all hip hop and FBA was the Creators.
This is Factz
Listen Rap and Hip Hop “music” is a Black creation. You have the ‘40s Jubilaires. Even have black music groups in the early 1900’s that had the rap sense. HOWEVER the Hip Hop “Culture” started when it integrated from all races of the struggle and created its lifestyle. So yes Black, Puerto Ricans, and even whites were in the beginning of the Culture. There it’s settled.
How would you define Hip Hop Culture?
@ it’s the struggle of the less fortunate finding a way to escape the noise. So they create their own sound, art, dance, and production. And the culture is EVERYTHING that has to do with Hip Hop. Now I GUARANTEE that’s a better definition than you can muster up with your boxed in mind
@ I was in a rap group in Chicago in the mid to late 90’s. Met Da Brat and Do Or Die. I grew up in a Puerto Rican and Black neighborhood. And even some whites. We all were in the struggle living the street life. So I’m pretty sure I know a little about Hip Hop
@@GapGod78
lets unpack what you said “sound, art, dance” ill add language to that.
Language - why wasn’t hip hop created in Spanish?
Sound - hip hop started out using funk and disco music all black American music, James Brown is the most sample artist in hip hop. Can you name a Puerto Rican who has been sampled on a consistent basis?
Dance - all of the dances I see are black American creations. Why wasn’t Salsa, bomba or any other traditional Puerto Rican dances blended into hip hop?
@@GapGod78 excellent, Da Brat and Do Or Die are black Americans, more than likely with Roots in Mississippi. In fact the majority of the most successful hip hop artists out of Chicago are black Americans….Am I wrong?
LUV fat joe......,he knows though blacks made rap 1st and everything spinned off that breaking,graffiti etc.......Puerto Ricans were mostly beakers and graffiti artist....❤
Unity babe don’t let this shit break us apart !!!
Even if Puerto Ricans aren’t the main contributors or main players in hip-hop, what’s the problem with acknowledging the hand they did have in the start up?
Facts versus feelings, folks. Let’s just at least keep it real.
Right
aint nothing sweeter than a BLACK RACIST...
THESE ARE THE BREAKS! 💃🏽
Absolutely! The breaks were the foundation of hip-hop. What’s your favorite breakbeat?
@ Apache, Funky Drummer (I think that’s what it’s called….James Brown, I believe) and Impeach the President.
Jimmy Delgado. Drummer for The Breaks.
Fat Joe is correct. This debate reminds me of the idiotic “who is black” debate. SMDH
He couldn't be any more wrong.
@ I just learned that Fat Joe said something about blacks and Puerto Ricans creating hip/hop 50/50. I wouldn’t consider that true. I also wouldn’t consider that FBA’s created hip hop on their own to be true. Both are BS. Like I said to the non believers, what FBA was doing what Kool Herc was doing before him?
They still had to travel to the states to make their contributions, so that tells you right there where the foundation was set up.
Someone already put down Gospel music Jubilaries but you also had country music Talking Blues Chris Bouchilon (th-cam.com/video/u9No8th4q90/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TK-cT_6Seotz9-Ue he couldn't sing so he did rhymes with his banjo), and the Beatniks Beat Poetry contributions to hip hop.
You do know that black Americans created country music right?
@donaldlyons180 who was country singer before Vernon Dalhart?
The beatniks created rap?
Ah it was cab calloway, louis jordan etc.
@@imahotep not created but contributed to it, beat poetry: Gill Scott Heron's "The Revolution will not be televised" was Beat Poetry. Cab Callaway's Skatt was also a contributor in my opinion. Not the creators but contributors same with Chris Bouchilon "Talking Blues"
It’s like the Bible many stories but the only way to honor it is by each individuals belief