Yes. Everyone should be taking a B12 supplement. Even the animals that are forcibly bred into existence are given a supplement because they don't naturally produce it themselves. But this is the BBC. Of COURSE they're going to misrepresent the data.
@@caffinnascreations6948 great, if you checked and the levels are ok there is no need to suplement. This is different from person to person, sometimes it doesn't even matter the diet you have but the way your body works.
Yes, everyone should consider B12 - especially older people: They don't utilise it as well as they used to when younger. B12 helps prevent cognitive decline!!!
when people talk about nutrition they must be very careful how they present things. I have been b12 deficient in b12 for years on an omnivore diet. I always went to the doctor and there wasn't one who thought it could be a lack of b12... only when I changed my diet to vegetarian did I read about b12 and since then I checked my blood levels and saw it was very low. now I take a supplement and the values are stable and I have no more symptoms. So vegans aren't the only people in danger when it comes to b12....coline you can find it in tofu, soy milk, quinoa, broccoli, peanut butter... omega 3's exist in chia and flaxseeds. .. they would be much more sincere and help people more if they researched and found alternatives. supplements should only be used if food or body absorption fails.
@@Sara-bw8xi if you are talking about the b12 for sure. There is plenty of b12 in plants but in a different form that we cannot absorb. That's because is so important to supplement. There is less absobtion in plants in some nutrient, but that does not mean you can't absorb them. People that follow a vegan diet tend to eat a wider variety of food.
@@macalienx in half a cup of broccoli there's 31 mg of choline, which I'm sure is not 100% bioavailable. If 60% is bioavailable (being generous), that's 15 mg of choline. The daily recommended intake of choline is 600 mg. So my original point still stands. Choline in broccoli? Try again
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 As you well know, being vegan is not a religion. There are a ton of yt videos that carefully explain this fact. In short, vegans don't think or behave like people practicing a religion. Not at all. As well disproportionate number of vegans happen to be atheists.
Buddy that's because this is not science this is just a strategic way to keep the animal industry on their on their on the top end of sales so they don't slump I'm a soldier with PTSD and I have came from a long ways 8 years ago I was in speech and memory therapy since I went vegan I now have a BSN in nursing science and I'm on my way to do with so much more so much more so much more so much more
I have been vegan since I was around four and right at the end of covid I had an abnormal amount of anxiety so I went the doctor and I took a bunch of tests like blood and urine, and they told me that my mineral levels were perfect except I had vitamin D deficiency because I was staying inside all the time (lockdown). Never had a food related deficiency. Just thought I'd add a perspective.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 checkout Bryan Johnson Blueprint for amount of each. But typically I think it's 50g of each ( Maitake, Cauliflower, Broccoli) and 300g of your chosen legumes / lentils. Topup with seeds like chia, hemp & olive oil
@@tomlauris Its only because the greens are sterilized/asepticized nowadays that you don't find B12 in them. Naturally herbivores find b12 in their foods thanks to the bacteria.
@@reubenmorris487 Also add D3 to your supplements, and K2, and DHA, and iodine, and iron, and zinc, and protein powders, and.... I've seen vegans in their 20s eating more pills than nursery home patients
I'm vegan for 6 years now. Almost four weeks ago I had my blood tested and everything was perfect. Never felt better. I do take a B12 supplement. Farm animals are being fed B12, so as a meat eater you're indirectly taking a supplement as well. Furthermore, the only meat source in which adequate amounts of B12 are found is beef. There is hardly any B12 found in poultry for instance. Fish get there iodine and omega from algea and seaweed. So why not eat those and leave the fish and other sea animals alone? This video is ridiculous. Watch some videos and read some books by dr michael greger ( to name just one) for real and researched information.
Carnosine, beta-alanine, taurine, creatine, carnitine, arachidonic acid, anserine, choline (again - because you don't mention that in your post), hydroxyproline, collagen. People should NOT be reading books by Dr. Micheal, they should do their deep resaerch by starting with listetning to both sides of the discussion, the pros as well as the cons, and then they should trace back their information and find sources. For example it's a myth on the internet that beta-alanine is found in vegetables. If you click your way through, you won't find anything showing that there are relevant amounts of either carnosine or beta-alanine found in any plants.
This is a disgrace of a video. When giving your examples of what can be found in certain foods you only mention the animal products and not the plant products that do in fact have these nutrients available. I’ve been Vegan for 8 years I rarely get sick and have boundless energy. Go Vegan!
Plant foods that are especially rich in choline include tofu, soynuts, soymilk, cruciferous vegetables, cooked dried beans, quinoa, peanuts, and peanut butter.
They’re also full of anti nutrients that negate most of the alleged nutrients they contain. As the cecum in the human digestive system is substantially smaller than herbivores we are honestly not equipped to fully assimilate the nutrients in fruits and vegetables. The science doesn’t lie. Since I stopped eating fruits and vegetables entirely and only eat animal products my blood pressure, skin conditions and brain fog have disappeared. My blood counts are excellent, cholesterol ratios and triglycerides are perfect. My lean body mass has increased and my percentage of visceral fat has decreased to 11% from 21% in only 4 months. I had been battling eczema for the past few years and within less than a week my eczema cleared up. No vegan diet diets could have yielded so many positive results . We’re not designed to eat fruit and vegetables or grains. Vegans are so gullible in believing the false information being fed to them. They refuse to accept and research both sides of the argument. If vegans performed unbiased research they would most likely not continue being vegan. Eat meat you’ll feel better. It boils down to bioavailability of nutrients, vegetables are the least bioavailable foods for humans and that is a fact. Meat also provides vitamin C, and our bodies absorb it entirely and because there are no carbohydrates to interrupt the absorption of vitamin C we have zero risk of vitamin C deficiency. Unlike vegans I thoroughly researched all the information and tested the results personally. Since going full carnivore I have never been healthier, my blood tests are all the confirmation I need. I don’t lack energy, I sleep better and my body weight is finally dropping, quite rapidly I might add. Also I am able to eat less mass and feel satisfied all the while getting all the nutrients necessary to thrive. Unlike vegans who must feed constantly just to meet their RDI. Rant concluded.
I'm healthy at 57. On no meds, blood pressure 120 over 84. Been vegan since I was pregnant at 25. Went vegan in second trimester. Son now 32 and still vegan (whole life). He is healthy, has a degree, very intellectual. So there (tongue out). I earned a degree in my 40's and a Masters in my early 50's, so I am obviously not completely useless, yet. TBH i didn't watch this video, just read a few of the comments and got the gist of what the BBC is laying down lol I have taken B12 periodically and same with my son.
They are always trying to demonize being vegan! They want us to keep abusing animals and using them for our selfish needs in order for them to keep making millions out of pharmaceutical companies when people end up having very high cholesterol and high blood pressure! If you don’t do it for the animals do it for yourself! Go vegan!!
I'm going to agree with the comments saying there some misinformation about B12 and I'd also like to share my own experience. I was just a step close to obesity with bulimia. When I found out the truth about animals, I decided to try it going vegan. AFTER doing my own research and **consulting a dietician for the right nutrition . That was 7 years ago and it changed my life, as I'm completely healthy and most important thing is that I lost my unnecessary cravings, and of course lost weight. [I also don't have B12 deficiency and take no supplements]
I also didn't start taking a b12 supplement right away when I went vegan and noticed no difference in health. I take one now though just in case as it costs very little and really doesn't inconvenience me much. I recommend everyone, vegan or not, take one honestly. Medical professionals agree on it's importance in human physiology and I think it's wiser to heed that advice than gamble your health on a hunch or personal experiment.
@@rasputozen Interesting but speaking for me, since I'm ok with B12 my doctor didn't tell me to take B12 . Have you asked yours or made your own research?
@@mem9071 If your b12 levels are ok then I'd say keep doing what you're doing but keep an eye on them periodically just to be safe. I just want my fellow vegans to be as healthy as possible!
I found out the truth about animals. They taste great and an all animal diet can be just as healthy as a no animal diet. The key is both can cut out modern processed food and sugar.
@@quillo2747 And I found out that you're a very compassionate person,nice! But some of value more the life of an animal than our taste. Also, plants aren't carcinogenic so it's actually obvious what's healthier
I've been vegan for nearly 7 years now and my bloods have recently come back with absolutely nothing wrong with them (I had a blood test because my resting heart rate was significantly low for someone who doesn't do a lot of intense exercise). Over the last two or so years I've started to take a multivitamin, but otherwise have not experienced any health downsides to it, however we're all different. The important thing is to listen to your body, visit the doctor when things don't seem right, and to keep your diet varied and full. Yes it's vegan to just eat pasta with passata but it's not healthy nor is it sustainable. Experiment and work out what's best for you, and regularly check in with yourself if something needs to change. Make sure to find good protein sources you like, try out some of those vegan substitute meats if you want to (or can afford to!), and buy foods that are fortified in B12 and other vitamins you can't get so easily.
Do you have enough iron? I seem to struggle with that. I tried to give blood twice last year but my Hb was too low. Not low enough to be sent to GP but not enough to be able to give blood. Not sure what foods to eat more of (I do love lentils and dark green leaves and nuts...).
@@katarinajanoskova Plant based protein powder has a lot of iron due to them being condensed versions of peas and grains. I would reccomend blending that with some fruits high in vitamin c and maybe some kale to aid in absorption. Lentils and beans are a bit difficult to absorb iron from.
Good attempt to keep up the doubt agenda for the meat and dairy industry BBC. Let’s have a video next week about all the pitfalls of the default diet we have in place currently? Maybe it’s just blatantly obvious in todays society how unhealthy it can be. There is no mention of red meat or processed meat being a class 2 and class 1 carcinogenic (World Health Organisation) This video is a half truth which will easily make people think their meat and dairy diet is working out great for them 👎🏻 There is plenty of healthy plant based fats to maintain a healthy brain. There is also an array of foods fortified with B12 and Iodine.
@@treefrog1018 flaxseed/chia seeds with with breakfast. This is incredibly silly, I do not know any meat eaters that know how much vitamins/minerals/nutrients or even calories they need in a day. Most of them don’t even know there is 9 essential amino acids. To begin with watch the Game Changers documentary, there’s no deficiencies if you follow a balanced plant based diet and supplement if needed. Meat eaters use all sorts of supplements and enriched foods and still manage to be deficient in vitamin D.
There is zero evidence that red meat is carcinogenic. Most western diets with meat have a side if seed oil fried chips and a sugary drink. No study has ever shown that meat is bad for you. Nitrites is some preserved meat is carcinogenic, its very easy to get nitrite free bacon
I’ve been vegan 10 years and in very good health physically and mentally. This video is cleverly presented to make veganism seem like it’s deficient. IT’S NOT. An interesting fact is that the vast majority of the meat has B12 in it because animals are supplemented with B12. 98% of animals globally are factory farmed. So when consuming meats, people are indirectly consuming the supplements that the animals were given. Just look at livestock feed… almost all of them contain B12, iron, and other minerals and vitamins. Those supplement nutrients are just accumulating in the tissues of the animals. Even grass fed animals are given supplements. This is all just health focus. The ethical aspects of veganism are even more of a reason to stop consuming animals.
Yep, that's the mainstream normalisation of meat eating at play. I see videos like this as nothing more than a continuation of the indoctrination that meat, eggs, dairy and fish are essential parts of a healthy diet and of course we now know that's not true. In fact it's pretty clear that animal produce is actually quite terrible for human health. Public broadcasters and governments are all part of the normalistion process. People's beliefs ultimately come from the incessant propaganda from the meat and dairy industries over the years. After all, there's a lot of money to be made from the abuse and exploitation of animals.
They are always out to make being vegan as it would be bad for your health! I’ll tell you what’s bad for your health eating too much milk and cheese and animal products that would eventually give you high cholesterol and high blood pressure and would eventually result in a heart attack!!!
It's interesting because I was an ethical vegan 3 years ABD I ate about extremely 'healthy' diet with vitam D, lugold iodine and b vitamin supplements. My health was amazing before vaganism. After 1 year vegan my libido was gone. After 1.5 years I had my bloods done and I was severely anemic. I had to get an iron infusion and I started supplements for iron. I never got better and I actually got worse. My pelvic floor and my wrists and haw started atrophy... rven though I'm very active. By thr 3 year mark I coukd not get up a flight of stairs and I was suicidal Now that imeating grass fed meat and wild fish I only need to supplement iodine. I feel beyond amazing now! There is more in meat then just protein and iron. So we are not just needlessly eating animals. We need it for our survival. You will soon find this out.. just like the huge majority of vegans who have already left.
I’m sorry, I just have to say that right at the beginning of the video she forgot to mention that the animals are supplemented with B12. Definitely important to supplement B12 while pregnant. But also like 40% of people have a B12 deficiency. Vegans get plenty of choline: broccoli, peanut butter, mushrooms, etc. Like honestly this whole video just ignores the reality that a balanced vegan diet satisfies all of these concerns. Crazy how much misinformation is out there and how industry funded our dietary “knowledge” is. Go vegan for the animals, plan it out, and do it. After a couple weeks it just becomes an everyday thing as if it’s always been that way
Don't expect health advice from BBC. It also showed many fake news about iraq leading to the death of many people. They will tell anything their funders will ask for
@@foanna18 Thanks for spamming this everywhere Carnivore MD. Small amounts of toxins are not necessarily a problem and long term research on plant based diets are better for all cause mortality, not worse.
Check Vitamin D and Iron as well. Drs are not familiar with the severe effects of low ferritin levels (storage of iron). Iron deficiency can cause fatigue, dizziness, brain fog, anxiety and much more!
BBC Reel "insurance policy" for lying to the masses. In this video description... Disclaimer: All content within this article is provided for general information only, and should not be treated as a substitute for the medical and dietary advice of healthcare professionals. The BBC is not responsible or liable for any diagnosis or actions taken by a user based on the content of this site. The BBC encourages anyone interested in making dietary changes to consult their healthcare provider beforehand. Always consult your own GP if you're in any way concerned about your health.
I love how you take the disclaimer that people should ultimately get information directly from medical professionals and twist it into some kind of proof that a video like this is lying. As if most doctors wouldn’t agree with what was being said here.
@@tomlauris indeed, on the other hand let’s also look at the staggering amount of flesh eaters who are suicidal, homicidal, obese, depressed, and impotent
'Very high intakes of choline can lead to low blood pressure (hypotension) and liver toxicity. It may also lead to the excess production of TMAO, which is associated with a higher risk of cardiovascular disease.' 'Chronic dietary exposures to choline and TMAO were associated with development and progression of chronic kidney disease.' 'Multiple roles for choline in cancer development have been suggested. Choline can affect DNA methylation and lead to a disruption of DNA repair.' ' Conclusion: Of the 47,896 men in our study population, choline intake was associated with an increased risk of lethal prostate cancer.' Cruciferous vegetables, certain beans are also rich in choline, and other dietary sources of choline include nuts, seeds, greens... eating a plant based diet gives you all the choline your body needs. Meat / Dairy / Egg consumers are eating way too much choline which is linked to liver damage, kidney disease and cancer and in particular prostrate cancer in men. The research is out there, I guess she didn't do enough of it.
You contradict yourself. First you say choline causes cancer, then you proceed to tell us how much choline is in plant foods. I guess you are saying that plants cause prostate cancer.
My mom is not statistically significant or peer reviewed but her experience has had real significance among her circle of friends and family. 2 1/2 years ago, my 80 year old mother finally had a follow up appointment with her physician which was delayed for months because her doctor has been in charge of treating Covid patients in the hospital and in nursing homes and was not able to meet with her. She had a full blood panel taken for this visit and her doctor was astounded at the progress she had made during the last year. She is now no longer diabetic and she was instructed to stop taking insulin after having been on it for 12 years. Her doctor also praised her kidney function which has never looked better. Also, she couldn't believe that her total cholesterol was only 139, with LDL of 67, HDL of 60, and triglycerides of 82 which is a big improvement for her. According to the Framingham Heart Study, these numbers mean that she is virtually "heart attack proof" as many plant based doctors have noted. Her physician (Johns Hopkins med school grad) mentioned that she is reconsidering the diet for her family based on this experience. She also asked my mom to share her experience with our community after the pandemic. All of these results are exactly what I had hoped would occur. Here is the menu that I had developed for her to try to mimic what she was used to eating -> GSP Mother's Menu - While this menu is not a pure whole foods plant based diet, it appears to be health promoting enough to work for her. I plugged her bloodwork test values into the Levine Biological Age Calculator and she has aged minus 15 years during the last 3 years. I joke with her that she may be required to give up her Social Security benefits if she keeps going like that. My understanding is that low carb diets are a workaround that do not address the root cause of diabetes which is excess intramyocellular lipids (also fatty liver/pancreas) and the resulting insulin resistance. Excess saturated fats and refined sugar/flour are the most common cause of this metabolic system failure. Unless a person can eat whole food complex carbs again without a prolonged spiking of their blood sugar, type 2 diabetes has not been reversed. ps - She was able to get off of all blood pressure medications after 3 years, tapering off so as not to over-medicate which is dangerous because it can deprive tissues of necessary oxygen and nutrients.
@@predator7418 She has eaten a plant exclusive diet for the past 3 1/2 years. She is not vegan technically because she dislikes animals and does not empathize with them very much. She grew up on a farm and was locked in a chicken house by her sister as a prank. She was so afraid of the baby chicks that ran toward her that she ran through a window, cutting herself badly.
I have been researching both vegan and carnivore diets in recent months and have come to the conclusion that both can work depending on the person. It’s the elimination of sugar and junk foods that convey most of the benefits. I thought I would share one of my observations though from watching hundreds of videos from both communities: The carnivore community videos tend to have hundreds if not thousands of people sharing their experiences on carnivore which are 99.99% very positive. It’s often difficult to find even a single example where some had a bad experience on it. I would say at least 90% say it cleared up an array of illnesses and people feel amazing on it. These comments rarely mention vegans or a vegan style of eating. It is rare to find a case of someone who ate carnivore and switched to vegan and said they feel better or that it was the best thing they ever did. The vegan community is littered with people castigating meat eaters and dismissing carnivore, often with a smug or hateful attitude. I understand that many people have an idealogical aversion to killing animals. It is quite common to find people who were ill on vegan and cured themselves when they switched to carnivore. Of course there are a majority that also feel great on vegan too. I notice that it is overwhelmingly the Vegan community that spreads FUD. It is then those same “experts” that seek to sell you you on all kinds of potions, supplements and procedures. My spidey senses are tingling. In my life experience when someone hits me with FUD and then offers a solution which I need to pay for it is usually BS. Let me give you one of hundreds of examples of this. I watched a carni video talking about SIBO, they said the vast majority of people see improvement within 2 weeks of a meat based, zero card diet. They tried to see me nothing. Then I saw the vegan community discussing this. They said it needed to be analyzed via a stool sample and then promoted a $250 stool analysis service. I see this pattern again and again and again. Like I said, I think both diets have their benefits but do your research folks and question those spreading FUD and selling you stuff as a supposed panacea.
Cholesterol is a very weak predictor of heart disease. Most people who have heart attacks didn’t have high cholesterol. Only one type of LDL causes heart disease. These are the dense particles that have been damaged by sugar and seed (vegetable ) oils. If your triglycerides and HBa1c is high, you most likely have high levels of small dense LDL particles that could damage your vessels. Moreover, animal foods have much more bioavailable nutrients.
@Jonah Whale Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? If you don't answer the question then you are admitting you derive more worth from playing pretend than actually practicing what you preach. Any questions can be referenced in past conversations where you didn't answer the simple fact based question there either. Name one study that proves a plant based diet without supplements is healthy for long term health...(hint: it doesn't exist.) We both know you won't answer so I will just accept your concession now.
Dr. Ellsworth wareham (a heartsurgeon) says that if you keep your cholestrol under a certain level, that its very unlikely for anyone to develop coronary heart disease. And that cholestrol can be lowered by eating plant-based
Lots of misinformation, here. Choline is available in many soy foods, for example. It is not necessary to supplement. Iodine is easily available in seaweeds, e.g. nori. Omega-3s are available in chia and hemp seeds, cruciferous veg, etc.
Exactly. Most salt is also iodised. It's not an issue. The only purpose of this video was to try and scare people off plant based eating. They are grabbing at straws
@@jhanson6163I was already scared off of plant-based eating by the fact that vegan food is often terrible. But sure, blame a video for confirming what many people would probably rightly suspect to begin with.
the vegan diet is the best for supply of choline; vitamin b12 is found in spirulina algae, sauerkraut, mido, tempeh and several veg alternatives to meat. Regarding iodine, a spoonful of iodized salt in pasta water is enough, while omega 3 are found in soy, in various vegetables and in dried fruit, which in the vegan diet, also for other nutritional reasons, is never lacking… Etc, etc, etc. Get informed, please.
Exactly, a quick search shows that “Plant foods that are especially rich in choline include tofu, soynuts, soymilk, cruciferous vegetables, cooked dried beans, quinoa, peanuts, and peanut butter.” So basically, all the foods that a health conscious vegan would be eating anyway. Of course a junk food vegan with a diet of soda and chips could easily become deficient in choline. But the same could be said about dietary deficiencies in a junk food omnivorous diet.
@@broddr Even junk food contain choline. For exemple in a soy protein isolate, the choline survives (flour is still better for other nutrients though) Also many omnivorous are deficient in choline, so if we compare an average vegan diet to an average omnivorous diet both will be midly "deficient", but its completely wrong to say the vegan will be more deficient.
I live with my vegan partner, I am pescatarian. We've lived together for 28 years. He is 7 years older than me. Both of us are healthy, not overweight and take a daily multivitamin. He never gets sick, hikes with more stamina and has more energy. I tried being vegan several years ago and managed for abt a year. But I would say I'm more food centric than he is and love to cook. I would prefer to be vegan, it's just not for me. Bottom line as I see it, everyone gradually figures out what works for their personal health needs, lifestyle preferences and/or beliefs. We are lucky to have choices in this country.
@@lereff1382 It's not like I eat fish morning, noon and night. What's wrong with cooking? I cook to feed myself and my partner......Which includes includes plenty of vegan food. The great thing about my partner and I is we don't push our preferences on each other. People get along better if we can learn to accept our differences.
I am a raw vegan for 6 years and I am very happy and I have enourmous energy. I have a good focus and I have a lot of compassion, love into my heart. This video is not telling the Truth!
Veganism is about humans choosing to not harm animals in any part of their life; clothing, makeup products, cleaning products, to name just a few. It is NOT just a "diet." Any even slightly educated vegan eats a varied diet which includes supplements that provide all of these things. There are MILLIONS of highly intelligent and productive athletes, business people, scientists, etc., who are vegan. This video should be posted more as "tips to being a successful vegan" rather than trying to create a fear bias that you're going to get brain damage from being vegan. 🙄
How many of those 'MILLIONS' were vegan for their entire lives? I'll be interested to see what are the results of the vegan experiment in 10.. 20.. 30 yrs time. Meanwhile, good luck being the lab-rat. What is your verdict on ex-vegans? Are you willing to claim that every one of them "did it wrong"?
@@Assassin99584 Beef, eggs, oily fish & dairy appear to be excellent replacements for supplements.. I may be on the brink of a ground-breaking discovery.. but the thought police may reward me with an off the pier review, long before a genuine, peer review is possible.🙄
Who sent u? Every vegan and vegetarian i know are WAY more healthier, vibrant and energetic than the average meat eater. I get all my supplements thru herbs daily
Agreed…while there are good points made in the video about obtaining nutrients, the health risks of meat and dairy aren’t discussed, which could lead someone to think a plant based diet is more risky than eating bacon, butter and pork chops
I was brought up on Marmite (other yeast extracts are available) on toast. This was part of my mum's efforts to prevent us developing a "sweet tooth" and to ensure we had a healthy diet. I was discouraged from sweets and even now, I would not care if I never ate sugary or chocolatey foods ever again (I do like a sweet biscuit with a black coffee to wake me up in the afternoon, though). At 66 years old, I still love yeast extract but have changed to the low salt version, which tastes just as good. It has loads of vitamin B12 and other B vitamins and adding nutritional yeast to smoothies adds more B vitamins. So easy, and yet people love to make a big deal out of it as though getting enough is going to be a problem on a vegan diet. I get so bored with all this rubbish. Choline - soybeans have more choline than beef and chicken, and potatoes and most beans have more than dairy products or even tuna. (PCRM 30.08.19). Omega 3 - nori, spirulina and chia seeds. It's about using your brain and checking your nutrition. There is masses of information out there and no need for a "qualified nutritionist" who will likely be some 22 year old graduate regurgitating conventional "wisdom".
You've literally mentioned only one ONLY ONE source of vegan food that contains B12. Ever considered that most vegans don't perhaps share your affinity for marmite and so need to be made aware of the increased risk of B12 deficiency? Or you too selfish to consider that POV?
@@lukeoshannassy what?! It isn't his job, but he is providing info, which in itself is okay. It is his comment that is needlessly hostile towards the host. He's speaking as if it's the most natural thing to find B12 in vegan food. There's no need to be so defensive about your dietary choices
where do animals get their iodine though? surely we are better off eating the source, instead of eating it 2nd hand through animal products. i love seaweed.
Supplements in their feed. It is actually hard to get the right amount plant based. Just buy a supplement if you aren't and make sure you are getting enough selenium with it since poor iodine to selenium ratios can he probematic. Selenium is found in whole grains.
@@althomas6045 fish you eat have a 50 percent probability of being farmed fish that are eating algae, plant compounds, and maybe seaweed as well. So ironically you are paying for even more plant deaths than she is.
Same with B12. That vitamin is only made by bacteria. So farm animals (95% of the typical diet) get B12 as a supplement in their feed, and people are getting that supplement 2nd hand. Fish & game get B12 by eating food that has B12 making bacteria on it. So vegans can just cut out the middle animal and consume a B12 supplement directly or, like farm animals, by eating plant foods that have been supplemented with B12.
Not interested in debating what's the most optimal diet ... but b12 supplements are fed to livestock so that humans get it, it's also added to dairy products ... we are all getting it supplemented. It's not the only thing that's added into our foods to ensure we get enough of it. I live in a cold climate where everyone is recommended to eat vitamin D supplements, regardless of their diet... Unless you grow/raise all your food naturally yourself ... your diet includes supplements.
@@lahn8250 food manufacturers in the US use additives and processing banned in the EU and other countries. Start by getting US standards on food production the same as the rest of the developed world.
It is pretty clear that increasing the % of calories consumed from plants as much as possible is beneficial for health from epidemiological studies. For example, studies consistently show that plant protein is far superior for reducing mortality than animal protein (which increases mortality), even after adjusting for other factors. You probably don't need to (and probably shouldn't) completely eliminate non-vegan foods if health is your goal, but they should not make up a big chunk of your diet either. My diet is 90% vegan, with the rest being fish and dairy. I easily get 100+% of the recommended intake of every nutrient without needing any supplements whatsoever even while cutting at 1800 calories/day. Super easy if you actually know what you're doing.
Newer studies have shown that modern vegans tend to have adequate B12 levels. My guess is because all the fear mongering works, so vegans supplement more today, and there are so many fortified foods today. Most of the studies showing high B12 deficiency are a few decades old
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Tons of people fear monger online...and some of the biggest industry lobbying in the world are trying to work against veganism growing. Nutrient fear mongering is part of a strategy that also includes a supply of anecdotes about people that fail veganism, convincing people that meat is essential, everything is killing everything anyway, some of the Flintstones(cavemen) ate meat so that must mean something... and a lot of other great diversions that appeal to people looking to change nothing.
What absolute rubbish. A 2 week old baby would be on breast milk or formula. Has this been sponsored by the meat and dairy industry. This video is completely flawed with inaccurate information. Scary
Please read the book "Becoming Vegan: The Complete Reference to Plant-Based Nutrition (Comprehensive Edition)" by Brenda Davis, RD and Vesanto Melina, MS RD for proper vegan nutrition guidance before becoming a vegan. Happy vegan journey!
Foods to eat to avoid all issues mentioned - Moringa powder - Spirulina - Beetroot/spinach - Broccoli and other high choline brassica - Seaweed flakes - Nutritional yeast - Olive/Flax seed (oil or whole seed) If you've been vegan for a while you'll know none of this is difficult to obtain or prepare. Also eat organic wherever possible for other micronutrients such as copper. They could've just put this in the video but instead framed as some half hearted hit piece.
The reason we eat meat is because it is more nutrient dense. Our ancestors prefer meat to vegetables because when you eat only vegetables you have to spend half your day chewing to get the same nutrients. The problem with meat arises when you eat American sized portions and the meat is half your plate.
Meat and slavery was quite productive in the past. Actually it was the basis of our civilization but in today's world both are not sustainable. Meat causes environmental decay and slavery causes every problem possible. So we have to change our diet according to our circumstances. You can't feed the entire world meat. Neither can raise cattle in space or moon. You have to go vegan or plant based in future for environmental reason in earth and sustainability issues in space
a vegan diet can be oreos, chips, and soda or can be a balanced diet of whole plant foods. there is no set vegan diet. these news articles and stories need to stop.
Its a pathetic attempt at fear mongering as they watch the public start to open their eyes and find out about horrors behind the products theyve been buying.
Most studies show vegan people living longer , still This video portraits vegans as this people that need to supplement loads in order to survive. B12 should be the only worry if you are having a balanced wholefood diet , and not just for vegans, omni should supplement too.
the oldest ppl recorded to live were not vegans. they all meat and were between 114-126. not a single vegan, but a few vegetarians. the ppl who have the longest life expectancy on earth eat the most meat. you are simply wrong.
I see this video not as "it is bad to be vegan, because", rather as "if you are, look out for..." - the same way as people with a non-vegan diet should check their BP and cholesterol.
I became very ill from being mostly vegan (we had rescue hens, so I also ate eggs). After my health had been deteriorating for years my Dr ran a bunch of blood tests and I was very low in many food groups. I was sent to a dietician who told me to start eating animal products if I wanted to get better, which I did. This was 4 years ago now and I'm like a new person. I'm so much stronger, more energetic and my depression is gone. So no, I don't think this video is misleading at all.
As though the majority of UK diets are healthy and balanced. Have you seen the contents of people's shopping trolleys and long queues at fast food restaurants. I have had several friends over the years (meat eaters) who have been deficient in b12. The majority of animals I'm the UK are factory farmed and supplemented with b12.
@@quillo2747 Absolute nonsense. You think KFC chicken is free range, McDonalds, supermarket frozen? Nearly all UK chicken is intensively reared and reaches "yield maturity" in 42 days, thus causing terrible joint problems. The intensive conditions are filthy and inhumane. Most pigs are reared indoors and most cows are indoors for the winter, as grass only grows for around five months in the UK. Some cattle are indoors permanently, and this is becoming more common. If you look at the smallprint on "free range" beef packaging, it usually says pasture fed for 120 days. As for sheep, they are so selectively bred for yield that they can't survive without regular intervention (shepherds are very busy people), and about 4% per year die due to health problems from selective breeding. Just because animals are outside doesn't mean that the methods are not industrialised and intensive. Only 5% of UK farmed animals are free range. All are man-made genetic mutants for maximum yield. Also, there are no special high welfare slaughter houses. All farmed animals meet a disturbing and violent end regardless of what's printed on the shrink-wrap.
It does matter since different sources of a nutrient have different levels of bioavailability. Let's take spinach for instance. It is rich in iron yet your body will only absorb about 2% of the iron in it because we can't digest and absorb it correctly. The heme iron in meat however is easily absorbed by our bodies. Where it comes from matters.
Misleading title much? "How these specific nutrient deficiencies affect your brain" is a more apt title imo. These deficiencies along with a host of others such low dietary fibre, low vitamin d3 are also prevalent amongst people conforming to different diets. But, we don't see BBC making such videos titled "How XYZ diet affects your ABC".
vegans are the dumbest people I know. Not only does pesticides kill tons of pollinating bees and insects but it also kills an estimated 67,000,000 song and migratory song birds each and every year. Not only that but the strip mines where your vitamins and supplements are mined erodes the land, poisons the creeks and waterways, and displaces countless animals you claim to care about. As a carnivore I only shoot and kill the one deer or elk I plan to eat and that is all. Vegans are destroying the planet with their diet and then lie to themselves about it.
Except the ones that were killed when crop land was cleared and pesticides were sprayed… But I guess they’re too small and creepy for you to care about them, huh?
One of the greatest health benefits of Veganism is slowing down of aging (almost anti-aging). With regards to B12 even Animal-eaters would experience same B12 deficiencies if it's not added into the Meat. BTW fish gets the Omegas from the Algae's so why not take directly from the source (and not fill your body with heavy metals and micro-plastic that sea foods come with). STEMINA, we all know the sexual research that proved that Vegans have better sexual stamina in comparison to the Animal-eaters, even sports stamina also improves a great deal by a balanced/healthy Vegan diet, no wonder so many top athletes/sports people are going vegan.
@@ishangimhan6112 strongman Patrick Baboumian for one. Watch "The Game Changers" doccie for further athletes, firemen, weight lifters, body builders and other folk.
@@ishangimhan6112 The athletes probably supplement the nutrients only found in meat. You can call them meat based bioactive compounds. Carnosine (beta-alanine), creatine, taurine, carnitine. There are more nutrients you can only get by meat, poultry, sea creatures. I was on a vegan diet for 7 years, I should have never done that.
I'm an active 65 yo and tried going off animal protein, within 18 months my muscle wasting and brain fog was so alarming I went back to eating meat. These so called experts who will say you only need 30gms per day of poorly absorbed plant proteins is absolute rubbish.
Jonathanmagic, usually people who fail at giving up animal products do so because they are not eating a well balanced whole food all plant diet,in other words they are eating rubbish. Many amazing top world athletes are winning because of eating a whole food all plant diet, they are certainly not suffering from lack of protien. The hospitals are not full of vegans but are full of people who eat animals and their secretions. Watch" game changers" watch "25 ripped athletes" PT 1 and PT 2, watch " Fiona Oakes Rich Roll to name just a few. Veganism is not a diet. Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude as far as is possible and practicable all cruelty and exploitation of animals for food,clothing, entertainment or any other purpose. Ethical vegans will always find a way to live a healthy life without causing suffering and death to anyone.
Why does this video have so many dislikes, nothing in this video is attacking veganism in any way, it's simply bringing light and attention to possible deficiencies that a vegan will face in their life if they're uninitiated in common deficiencies. This is an informative video meant to help you better understand what to do if you're experiencing certain symptoms whilst employing this way of eating. Not a video meant to defame or belittle veganism. So sensitive...
Because people hate the truth, look at all the people in the comments trying to validate their biases. They don't even watch the video or look at the data as they want to stay in their echo chamber of affirmation based on lacking scientific data. Truth is there is alot I mean alot of things vegans miss out on when it comes to optimal health:Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Glycosaminoglycans Hydroxyapatite, Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10),Collagen, Peptides, B12, B2, K2, Niacin DHA, EPA, taurine, carnosine, creatine, anserine, carnitine, choline, glycine, selenium, iodine, zinc, magnesium,calcium, iron (especially as female), omega-3, amounts of leucine isoleucine and valine should be monitored weirdly enough cholesterol, as you need this nutrient, and vitamin A is also a concern. All these nutrients improve brain health and have been shown to enhance problem-solving skills within adults and children alike.
I'm actually a keto/carnivore. I eat salmon, eggs, beef, deer, elk, butter, beef liver, cod liver oil, sauerkraut, kimchi, and honey. You wanna know the secret? Grass fed, pasture raised, wild caught, organic. Vegans are literally killing themselves but are too nieve. Vegitables dont absorb nearly as much nutrients are they are being told. Certain nutrients can only be absorbed with fat. Idk. Save the animals or save yourself.
@@AnavonRebeurnot really, points out that cutting off *any* food group merits talking with a professional (qualified nutritionist), whether or not there is a deficiency is at an individual level (some may, some won't), and that supplements are *one* option (depending on the individual's situation).
Not the old tired B12 argument, need to come up with some new arguments. Depending on your diet lots of people can be vitamin deficient. Animals get B12 from the food they eat. Vegetables and grains. Than people eat the animals and get the B12, the fact we wash our vegetables and purify our water removes the B-12.
Did they not mention other nutrients as well? Or are you only focusing on that argument because it takes slightly more effort to counter than the others?
Many meat eaters are deficient or low in B12. That's despite the fact that farmers often give cattle, chickens and sheep B12 supplements along with other vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids and amino acids. It's not so easy to supplement cabbages, carrots and potatoes with those things. Everyone should take a B12 supplement or consume fortified food. In fact it's best for everyone to take a multivitamin and mineral tablet. Many vegans don't. Often out of ignorance. Years ago it was quite common for babies to be born with rickets because their meat-eating mothers didn't provide them with enough vitamin D. Babies can be born with spina bifida if their meat-eating mothers don't provide them with enough folic acid. Those vitamins are now added to certain foods to ensure women get enough.
When I was 12 my geography teacher (non vegan) showed us a rather graphic video of where all our meat and dairy products come from. I was vegan since that day and never looked back. If you think that's too gory to show kids then well maybe that just shows we shouldn't be eating it anymore! I'm 20 now and although I could have put more thought into getting everything I need over the years, I'm doing just fine. I'm forever grateful for Mr Daniels showing us that video. I'm sure I would've still gone vegan at some point but I'm glad it happened sooner rather than later.
@Grazia Costa ok so you're omnivore! when you said carnivore i thought you meant you only eat meat and nothing else. for me, i've been a vegetarian for 6 years, and started transitioning to veganism about a month ago, and the only difference i noticed is : when i went vegetarian, i gained weight (because i was really skinny before that, and since i payed more attention to what i ate, and ate better, i gained weight). and when i went vegan, nothing changed (for now), except the fact that i feel way better knowing that i don't pay and support some horrible ways to do. i also learned to cook in the past month! i didn't know at all because i'm a minor, i've never done that before. but veganism forced me to get into cooking and nutrition (sorry for mistakes, i'm french)
Everybody should have b12 checked, not just vegans. There are more meat eaters with b12 deficiency than vegans... possibly because of the prevalence of vitamin supplements among vegetarians in general.
In the US, 132 million people are estimated to have b12 deficiency. In contrast there are only 7 million vegans in the US. If every one were b12 deficient, which they're not, 125 million b12 deficient individuals in the US eat meat. But the fact is the largest estimations I've seen are 20% of vegans. About a million of that 132 million b12 deficient individuals.
Vegan diet is universal. everyone can thrive on this type of food intake. As long as you vary your plant-based foods, you won't get any B12 or other nutrient or vitamin deficiencies. Eating fresh produce rather than processed and in moderation is the way to make sure you are not lacking in anything that is vital to your health. Also vegan food is animal cruelty free so you are not contributing to the suffering of living beings. There are now so many new products coming out that offer much greater choice for vegans. A favourite one is mature cheddar flavour Violife cheese which is perhaps the closest product to animal milk cheese but you can get several other types including vegan blue cheese, vegan camembert and vegan smoked which is very tasty. The almond, hazelnut and other nut milks are delicious substitute products also.
Yeah… Sorry, but I’m pretty sure I’ve had vegan mac-and-cheese before, and it was the blandest thing ever. I don’t care how much you care about livestock animals (as opposed to all the small animals who have to be killed when farmland is cleared for human-edible crops to be grown, who apparently never register with you guys). If you can’t make food that is at least as good AND as nutrient-rich as the animal products we already have, we’re not gonna join your movement.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Of course you don't care about animals which is why you support their exploitation and abuse. There are good quality vegan foods and there are bland ones, just like some of those in an omnivorous diet and anyway, there is no movement for you to join, just people that have compassion for other living beings and those who don't. Finally, plant-based foods are as nutritious as meat and dairy.
What utter vegan slandering yet again. B12 should be supplemented by everyone, as it's from microorganisms and eaten by animals from soil. Modern hygiene has really impacted this even in agriculture so not even the animals get enough. I know people who eat meat who are deficient in B12. Nutrition is key, and that means wholefood plant based is the healthiest and most sustainable. Eat a varied diet and you won't get into trouble.
You forgot carnosine. Because the precursor beta-alanine is also only found in meat, poultry and sea creatures. The assumption of some veggies containing any relevant amounts of beta-alanine is a myth on the internet which is debunked when you trace back the citation of that claim in a paper.
In other words, with a few simple supplements you have nothing to worry about. B12 is extremely easy to get enough of. In fact, it's well represented in a generic multivitamin I take. Or just get a multivitamin that is designed specifically for vegans. They are starting to make those. So, basically, with a little research you can get a single multi that fills all the holes in the diet no problemo.
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 I'm not a vegan but I'm supplementing B12 and other vitamins (like D3) too because I don't aware of the actual consumption of these nutrients. Hence, it's much easier to supplement vitamins and minerals than rely on dietary sources exclusively. I'm thinking of switching to a plant-based lifestyle and if decide to go vegan I won't need to extend supplementation.
@@YuraL88 If you go totally vegan, you will have to extend your supplementation. DHA and EPA at the very least. They are essential and not found in plants. Vitamin A is another one.
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 You think you can't get vitamin A from plants? Have you heard of carrots? Taking a supplement is nothing. NOTHING! There are multiple companies that make a single product explicitly for vegans. How hard is it to take one gel cap? Because that's all you need. Even if you are an omnivore, most people don't get enough omega 3, B12, or D. What is harder, taking 1 gel cap, or keeping a dead fish in your fridge, cutting it up, and cooking it, and that's just for your omegas?
You would think the BBC would have informed us that humans originally had B12 in their diet because of bacteria in the untreated water they drank, not from an animal diet. Pretty much everybody needs to supplement B12 regardless of diet. Also, the BBC didn't seem to consider vegans getting B12 from fortified foods like cereals and many plant based processed " meats " are fortified with B12.
I've been Vegan 8 years and had a blood test the other day. My B12 level was around 500 obviously not deficient. I get my B12 the same way the animals that people eat get theirs from fortified foods or supplements. I can say with absolute certainty that eating animals is not necessary.
Got cured of PCOS with the herbal medicine from DR RORPOPOR HERBAL on TH-cam whose channel was the primary convincing platform that made me use the herbs..
and another instance of bad reporting here: the b12 deficiency signs mentioned here are common for many issues and maddeningly non-descript. but tingeling in the fingers and tongue are common signs for b12 deficiency as b12 also works on the nervous system. seemingly biased against veganism and poorly presented. research these topics on you own with verifiable sources.
Great thing about veganism is that you fall in love with a nature. You treat every vegie with a respect and gratitude, and become more aware of your body as a separate entity who has own needs That realtion is worthy perusing.
If you fall in love with nature, than why does your food require so much farmland to be cleared for crops? Because that actually has a terrible effect on ecosystems as well.
Veganism is generally defined as living in a way that avoids consuming, using, or exploiting animals as much as realistically possible. While this leaves room for individual preferences & barriers, the overall intent is that minimal harm is done to animals through life choices. My friends don’t care what they eat as long as there’s no animals involved. Oreos & margaritas are vegan! 😂
I don't know about turning to being a 100% vegan... But im pretty much happy preferring vegetarian for like 75% most of my meals in week and having lean meat in less proportions over weekends and little dairy for probiotics on alternate days. I have lost a decent amount of weight, I'm having a constant weight for 3 years now. Feel lighter and much more productive. My digestion is improved. So everything in moderation is good, all this hype about being a vegan is actually over rated i guess
You do not have to subject yourself to complex diets, play with the risk of pregnancy complications, or injure yourself in order to be healthy and happy. You can still live a long and healthy life. The majority of people become vegan due to bloating and other irregular issues. Omnivore diets are simple and straightforward; no planning is needed. Just eat less, eat healthily, and work out. Period.
@jaredadams5748 A. But do you rather demand more child labor and poor working conditions? Technically, fruits and vegetables come from 3rd world countries in the winter months, and an addiction to more demand increases the need for torturous conditions for humans. B. This may sound silly, but every time you hop into your car to go watch a Disney movie or have a beer with your buddies, you're killing countless animals that hit your windshield and increasing the probability of more roadkill. C. More animals die from harvesting food than from livestock. Many vegans will tell you this is wrong, but in the end, whatever data they are sharing with you will never account for the number of bees that die during transportation from one farm to another from stress!
@@raiitalyand what do the animals, whose flesh you scoff, consume? Oh, harvested grains, grasses etc. Your argument has whopping inconsistencies and contradictions.
This is wild. When I was vegetarian for a few months, I didn’t have brain fog, low mood, fatigue, etc. I actually felt more energised and with a clearer head. Switched back to meat and the brain fog was back, cholesterol was high, etc. I’m not saying vegetarianism is for everyone but it sure is better for me. This video is biased.
1:05 this is nonsense bbc... i'm a vegan and my b12 CONSISTENTLY (every year) scores in the very highest range.. maybe because i eat nutritional yeast regularly in my food.. also i take a general multi (mainly for vitamin D.. i'm pretty sun conscious having fair skin and living in australia.. lol
Vitamin B12 Rich Vegetables Alfalfa. The term “Alfalfa” is derived from the Arabic word, which refers to the topmost part of plants. ... Beetroot. Beetroots are an excellent source of vitamin B12 and other crucial nutrients, including iron. ... Mushroom. Mushrooms come from fungi species. ... Potato. ... Butternut Squash.
Ever heard of plant oxalates? They greatly hinder your body from absorbing the vitamins. For example spinach is high in B12 but you body can only absorb 1% because of the plant defenses and toxins. A human can get nearly every nutrient it needs from a large fatty ribeye steak. Carnivores do not have to visit a witch doctor to get magic spells and potions to keep us alive.
I am 24 years old, earlier I was non-vegetarian and I was very unhealthy, then one of my friends told me about veganism and I started following vegan diet, since then my health started getting better.
I have been vegan for 30 years and healthier than ever before. So rubbish information about B12 deficiency. And a athlete in my 50's. So please stop saying stupid information.
I will never understand veganism. I could probably go vegan and live my life normally. But I don't want to be obsessively tracking my supplements and ensuring I eat all sorts of trees just to ensure that I have the minimum recommended levels of nutrients. No thanks, I will continue with my omnivore diet. Plus meat smells and tastes great!
My friend went on atkins and I noticed she developed halitosis. She also had high colesterol. I gave her Aliciasilverstones brilliant book The kind Diet about becoming vegan. She read it and became vegan and surprise just as I knew it would she no longer has high colesterol.
_"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."_ *(Albert Einstein)*
@Jonah Whale you have no clue what you are talking about . let me enlighten you, crops are grown in a field, that field is ploughed , look into the millions of wild animals killed yearly world wide due to ploughing. then you have insect control measures that kill unfathobal amounts of insects each year. and thats while we still farm animals. imagine how many would die if every field was for crops???? You claim to be all self righteous yet you pick and choose which beings we should care about. And come to think of it aren't plants alive? they all breathe ,feed and reproduce don't they? So i think that kind of blows a little hole in your enviromentaly friendly vegan lifestyle. You don't like meat and that's fine, it's your choice. but stop with the enviromental lies it's as old as flat earth.
@Jonah Whale nope, but you have proven my point that you are a self righteous idiot. so how do vegans plough a field?! I never said anything about pesticides , i said insect control. but you tell yourself whatever you want if it helps you sleap at night, truth is things die for us to eat. the only difference is i'm okay with that. And as for the grammer ,i'll leave that to the karen institute of grammer. I've got other things to be doing other than caring about grammer on a youtube comment. but whatever floats your boat. If everyone becomes vegan wouldn't the crops have to be grown on an industrial level? You will become your enemy would you not. why can't you just live and let live?
@Jonah Whale Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it? If you don't answer the question then you are admitting you derive more worth from playing pretend than actually practicing what you preach. Any questions can be referenced in past conversations where you didn't answer the simple fact based question there either. Name one study that proves a plant based diet without supplements is healthy for long term health...(hint: it doesn't exist.) We both know you won't answer so I will just accept your concession now.
I agree. Everything about this screams paid promotion. These biased stories appear like clockwork every January. It's part of the growing PR effort to combat Veganuary
@@ottoweininger8156 eat dead, decaying, rotting bloody corpse full of disease, bacteria, ecoli, salmonella, hormones, estrogen and pharmaceuticals from animal’s tortured and murdered in their own sht….that becomes cancerous when cooked….enjoy the ibs and clogged arteries……natural
@@Regulus3333 humans have eaten meat for two million years+. Surprisingly the meat is dead, yes (so are the plants you eat btw) - but it isn't diseased. If it was we wouldn't have got very far. Veganism is entirely dependent on industrial society. You eat plants, covered in pesticides, from completely different climates and countries you live in, plus manufactured supplements. If modern civilisation ended tomorrow no-one would be vegan. So yeah, 'natural'.
The study I found says iodine deficiency was found in 75% of the omnivores and 92% of Vegans. So, this is not only a Vegan issue. B12 levels were not significantly different either. One thing was very clear, overall cholesterol and LDL levels were significantly lower in the vegan group.
Moreover, the German branch of a Japanese university has established that when the fetus of a cucumber is externally damaged, it begins to emit gases and low-frequency sound waves comparable to a cry of pain. So, vegans are even bigger sadists than carnivores.
My friend and I were enjoying some great burgers in a nice restaurant when the two girls across from us started complaining about the smell of meat. I asked her if she was enjoying her blackberry cobbler. She was responded with a "yes, very much". I asked her if she realized the blackberry tart she was eating is a carnivore. She said "it is not, it's a fruit!". I told her blackberry's have long spikes pointed inward toward the plant mounted on long vines so that when the animals get entangled they die of starvation and decay feeding the plant nutrients. She suddenly didn't like her cobbler so much. And, bonus; we ate our burgers in peace.
BBC should investigate the connection between eating disorders and veganism. The majority of vegans seem to come from EDs, veganism is just another form of restrictive eating for them.
Wow. Propaganda at its best! B12 doesn't come the animal. It comes from the supplements that are fed to animals. We all need b12 supplements because we treat our drinking water, since b12 comes from bateria.
@annieg1812 read my comment. And if you don't understand, then Google it. Why wouldn't you want to look it up? You don't know me, I could be lying. Bacteria make b12. Animals end up digesting it from water and plants that have the Bacteria naturally living there. In modern times, we started sterilizing our water and washing our plant foods, so we don't get b12 anymore. The animals we used to eat had b12, but even that is not a sure source anymore. Often livestock is kept in indoor conditions with factory made feed, so they give the animals b12 supplements, then we eat the unhealthy meat as a way to get b12. We can cut out the middleman (in this case the middle cow?), and take supplements ourselves. But please, look up the studies. I wouldn't take health advice from a youtube comment. Post script. I can't remember the spelling. And if don't Google it, I won't remember how. ....I can say it, but the spelling....hmmm Well, there's 3 kinds, although most people only talk about methyl and cyano....can't remember the third prefix. But, I'm sure a quick Google search will answer your questions. Thank you for your interest. Coubalin? Cuobalim? Cobaulim?
I had the low grade symptoms of b12 deficiency. I was blamed and shamed for being "lazy". My folks raised me vegetarian without eggs. This was in the 80s when nothing was known. I was an experiment. They saw no nutritionist. I didn't even have bloodwork til I was an adult because of my mothers needle phobia and her blind faith that her guru spoke the truth on our intended diet. The only "education" my parents had was words from their guru who was an ignorant uneducated dude from India. Growing up in ISKON was hard. I remember the first time I tried fish my mood was lifted that night and I felt like I took a sedative. My anxiety levels were so low. I had no idea I could be calm so I kept eating that way.
I’m sure the many fish that you’ve eaten thank you for taking their lives! You could have just learned more about nutrition instead of thinking that animal derived “nutrients” were what you needed.
They tried hard here lol. Remember folks all nutrients and protein originate from plants. So this video is literally telling you that you need to wait for the animal to eat these vitamins then brutally torture kill this animal for it's flesh so we can consume the left over nutrients it retains from the plants it ate in the short life it lived. Why not just eat plants. For example they really tried say how hard it is to get omega 3. It's literally as simple as eating either a few walnuts a day or a single table spoon of ground flax in you smoothie or oatmeal. It's mind boggling how much money goes into the mainstream media paid by animal agriculture to keep us dumb and uninformed. Time to stand up against animal cruelty and Go Vegan. It is the future. The current way we are doing things is unsustainable. So be on the right side of history folks
Edit: One of my statements below about vegan children needing to take taurine supplements if they are not breastfed is apparently a controversial issue, and may not be true. I am not sure and will continue researching. It was based on one source that I read. One thing worth mentioning that was omitted in the video (as good as it was) is this: livestock are fed b12 supplements. So if you think that by eating meat you are getting all your b12 "naturally" you may -- in part -- be deceiving yourself. In addition everyone should probably take b12 supplements , at least occasionally, as it is also an absorption issue. Another thing - vegan children MUST get supplements for Taurine if they are not breastfed, or their formula lacks it.
Mice and rabbits are cute fluffy mammals who also get killed in droves when land is cleared and pesticides are sprayed to grow crops. Literally the only animals that most vegans really care about are cows, pigs, and chickens. Funny enough, I’ve been up close to all of those animals because I grew up in a rural area, and guess what? I don’t care that much for any of them. Cows just come across as big and dumb to me, pigs will literally eat you without a second though if you fall into a herd of them, and chickens aren’t always the most pleasant of animals either. Yes, I support more humane practices of raising livestock, but there’s literally no reason to suggest that they deserve some kind of special treatment.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 I used to work at a farm and fed about 100 chicken daily, I had to open a barrel and throw a few cups of grain for them to eat. But if I wasn't fast enough they would attack me haha. Nasty creatures 😅
What a disservice this video, everyone in the modern world needs to check and supplement B12, not only vegans.
No! Have blood test done to check your B12 level beforehand to see if you need to supplement. My B12 level is high without a supplement.
@@caffinnascreations6948 B12 is not a food thing. b12 is made from bacteria
Yes. Everyone should be taking a B12 supplement. Even the animals that are forcibly bred into existence are given a supplement because they don't naturally produce it themselves. But this is the BBC. Of COURSE they're going to misrepresent the data.
@@caffinnascreations6948 great, if you checked and the levels are ok there is no need to suplement. This is different from person to person, sometimes it doesn't even matter the diet you have but the way your body works.
Yes, everyone should consider B12 - especially older people: They don't utilise it as well as they used to when younger. B12 helps prevent cognitive decline!!!
when people talk about nutrition they must be very careful how they present things. I have been b12 deficient in b12 for years on an omnivore diet. I always went to the doctor and there wasn't one who thought it could be a lack of b12... only when I changed my diet to vegetarian did I read about b12 and since then I checked my blood levels and saw it was very low. now I take a supplement and the values are stable and I have no more symptoms. So vegans aren't the only people in danger when it comes to b12....coline you can find it in tofu, soy milk, quinoa, broccoli, peanut butter... omega 3's exist in chia and flaxseeds. .. they would be much more sincere and help people more if they researched and found alternatives. supplements should only be used if food or body absorption fails.
Choline in broccoli? Try again
@@justinberber9848 see the USDA Database for the Choline
Content of Common Foods
Plant based is not the same as the body can’t absorb everything in it even if it is avaiable in it
@@Sara-bw8xi if you are talking about the b12 for sure. There is plenty of b12 in plants but in a different form that we cannot absorb. That's because is so important to supplement. There is less absobtion in plants in some nutrient, but that does not mean you can't absorb them. People that follow a vegan diet tend to eat a wider variety of food.
@@macalienx in half a cup of broccoli there's 31 mg of choline, which I'm sure is not 100% bioavailable. If 60% is bioavailable (being generous), that's 15 mg of choline. The daily recommended intake of choline is 600 mg. So my original point still stands.
Choline in broccoli? Try again
Not linking any sources is kinda Sus.
To be fair they where not very smart people when they decided to become vegan!
Wholly sus! Who paid her off?
Its a YT video not a paper! The vegans couldnt comprehend even if their religion demanded they didnt!
@@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307 As you well know, being vegan is not a religion. There are a ton of yt videos that carefully explain this fact. In short, vegans don't think or behave like people practicing a religion. Not at all. As well disproportionate number of vegans happen to be atheists.
Buddy that's because this is not science this is just a strategic way to keep the animal industry on their on their on the top end of sales so they don't slump I'm a soldier with PTSD and I have came from a long ways 8 years ago I was in speech and memory therapy since I went vegan I now have a BSN in nursing science and I'm on my way to do with so much more so much more so much more so much more
Feel sorry for whoever goes to the BBC for nutrition advice
Let's face it, the BBC is far from reliable on many things these days.
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❤️ Thanks a lot AJ. I was going to write exactly the same comment 👍🏽
Well..... Not sure about that. Specially when some "studies" are paid by butchers.
Yeah I won't be back.
I have been vegan since I was around four and right at the end of covid I had an abnormal amount of anxiety so I went the doctor and I took a bunch of tests like blood and urine, and they told me that my mineral levels were perfect except I had vitamin D deficiency because I was staying inside all the time (lockdown). Never had a food related deficiency. Just thought I'd add a perspective.
Also, you seem fairly attractive in all honesty even with the camera flash. Kind of have me smitten over here haha!
And a b12 deficiency
Yeah you just need to get more sun
That's excellent but remember a blood test doesn't test everything
You would be shy and depressed if you were vegan that long. No wonder you have crippling anxiety
- Iodine : Seaweeds, Iodized salts...
- Selenium : nuts
- Coline : tofu, soy milk, quinoa, broccoli
- Omega 3 : chia/flaxseeds, hemp seed, tofu
- B12 : Maitake Mushroom, Nutritional Yeast.
But is it enough? Like, how much of each would we have to eat to be healthy?
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 not much . with regards to micronutrients especially; the body can make a little last a long way
So it can be a perfect dish if you make it in japanese way without bonito soup!
@@husser5475 exactly
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 checkout Bryan Johnson Blueprint for amount of each. But typically I think it's 50g of each ( Maitake, Cauliflower, Broccoli) and 300g of your chosen legumes / lentils.
Topup with seeds like chia, hemp & olive oil
B12 is produced by BACTERIA, not livestock. A lot of livestock is actually supplemented for B12 through their feed.
So what? Still no B12 in plants. Eat more wild game, fish, seafood or animals on pasture if that's your problem.
@@tomlauris there is B12 in the bacteria of plants you nimrod
@@tomlauris Its only because the greens are sterilized/asepticized nowadays that you don't find B12 in them. Naturally herbivores find b12 in their foods thanks to the bacteria.
@@tomlauris Nutritional yeast or supplements.
@@reubenmorris487 Also add D3 to your supplements, and K2, and DHA, and iodine, and iron, and zinc, and protein powders, and.... I've seen vegans in their 20s eating more pills than nursery home patients
I'm vegan for 6 years now. Almost four weeks ago I had my blood tested and everything was perfect. Never felt better. I do take a B12 supplement. Farm animals are being fed B12, so as a meat eater you're indirectly taking a supplement as well. Furthermore, the only meat source in which adequate amounts of B12 are found is beef. There is hardly any B12 found in poultry for instance. Fish get there iodine and omega from algea and seaweed. So why not eat those and leave the fish and other sea animals alone? This video is ridiculous. Watch some videos and read some books by dr michael greger ( to name just one) for real and researched information.
Thank you 🌱
Carnosine, beta-alanine, taurine, creatine, carnitine, arachidonic acid, anserine, choline (again - because you don't mention that in your post), hydroxyproline, collagen.
People should NOT be reading books by Dr. Micheal, they should do their deep resaerch by starting with listetning to both sides of the discussion, the pros as well as the cons, and then they should trace back their information and find sources. For example it's a myth on the internet that beta-alanine is found in vegetables. If you click your way through, you won't find anything showing that there are relevant amounts of either carnosine or beta-alanine found in any plants.
This is a disgrace of a video. When giving your examples of what can be found in certain foods you only mention the animal products and not the plant products that do in fact have these nutrients available. I’ve been Vegan for 8 years I rarely get sick and have boundless energy. Go Vegan!
And I’m sure many of those plant products taste awful, and we’d still be miserable living off of them.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870so you just eat flesh? No veggies or salads? No cereals or bread, pasta? Give me a break.
Plant foods that are especially rich in choline include tofu, soynuts, soymilk, cruciferous vegetables, cooked dried beans, quinoa, peanuts, and peanut butter.
They’re also full of anti nutrients that negate most of the alleged nutrients they contain. As the cecum in the human digestive system is substantially smaller than herbivores we are honestly not equipped to fully assimilate the nutrients in fruits and vegetables. The science doesn’t lie. Since I stopped eating fruits and vegetables entirely and only eat animal products my blood pressure, skin conditions and brain fog have disappeared. My blood counts are excellent, cholesterol ratios and triglycerides are perfect. My lean body mass has increased and my percentage of visceral fat has decreased to 11% from 21% in only 4 months. I had been battling eczema for the past few years and within less than a week my eczema cleared up. No vegan diet diets could have yielded so many positive results . We’re not designed to eat fruit and vegetables or grains. Vegans are so gullible in believing the false information being fed to them. They refuse to accept and research both sides of the argument. If vegans performed unbiased research they would most likely not continue being vegan. Eat meat you’ll feel better. It boils down to bioavailability of nutrients, vegetables are the least bioavailable foods for humans and that is a fact. Meat also provides vitamin C, and our bodies absorb it entirely and because there are no carbohydrates to interrupt the absorption of vitamin C we have zero risk of vitamin C deficiency. Unlike vegans I thoroughly researched all the information and tested the results personally. Since going full carnivore I have never been healthier, my blood tests are all the confirmation I need. I don’t lack energy, I sleep better and my body weight is finally dropping, quite rapidly I might add. Also I am able to eat less mass and feel satisfied all the while getting all the nutrients necessary to thrive. Unlike vegans who must feed constantly just to meet their RDI. Rant concluded.
No, they are not, and they are loaded with phytates which prevent absorption of minerals. Eat meat.
I'm healthy at 57. On no meds, blood pressure 120 over 84. Been vegan since I was pregnant at 25. Went vegan in second trimester. Son now 32 and still vegan (whole life). He is healthy, has a degree, very intellectual. So there (tongue out). I earned a degree in my 40's and a Masters in my early 50's, so I am obviously not completely useless, yet. TBH i didn't watch this video, just read a few of the comments and got the gist of what the BBC is laying down lol I have taken B12 periodically and same with my son.
But are you living vegan or you say you're vegan and just eat vegan?
@@veganandlovingit what's wrong with the question?
@@veganandlovingit how am I suppose to reply if I don't know what is confusing you?
62, healthy, no meds, one of my kids is a doctor, the other a PhD chemist, 35 years carnivore. Fed my kids bone marrow and liver.
They are always trying to demonize being vegan! They want us to keep abusing animals and using them for our selfish needs in order for them to keep making millions out of pharmaceutical companies when people end up having very high cholesterol and high blood pressure! If you don’t do it for the animals do it for yourself! Go vegan!!
I'm going to agree with the comments saying there some misinformation about B12 and I'd also like to share my own experience.
I was just a step close to obesity with bulimia.
When I found out the truth about animals, I decided to try it going vegan. AFTER doing my own research and **consulting a dietician for the right nutrition .
That was 7 years ago and it changed my life, as I'm completely healthy and most important thing is that I lost my unnecessary cravings, and of course lost weight. [I also don't have B12 deficiency and take no supplements]
I also didn't start taking a b12 supplement right away when I went vegan and noticed no difference in health. I take one now though just in case as it costs very little and really doesn't inconvenience me much. I recommend everyone, vegan or not, take one honestly. Medical professionals agree on it's importance in human physiology and I think it's wiser to heed that advice than gamble your health on a hunch or personal experiment.
@@rasputozen Interesting but speaking for me, since I'm ok with B12 my doctor didn't tell me to take B12 . Have you asked yours or made your own research?
@@mem9071 If your b12 levels are ok then I'd say keep doing what you're doing but keep an eye on them periodically just to be safe. I just want my fellow vegans to be as healthy as possible!
I found out the truth about animals. They taste great and an all animal diet can be just as healthy as a no animal diet. The key is both can cut out modern processed food and sugar.
@@quillo2747 And I found out that you're a very compassionate person,nice! But some of value more the life of an animal than our taste. Also, plants aren't carcinogenic so it's actually obvious what's healthier
I've been vegan for nearly 7 years now and my bloods have recently come back with absolutely nothing wrong with them (I had a blood test because my resting heart rate was significantly low for someone who doesn't do a lot of intense exercise). Over the last two or so years I've started to take a multivitamin, but otherwise have not experienced any health downsides to it, however we're all different.
The important thing is to listen to your body, visit the doctor when things don't seem right, and to keep your diet varied and full. Yes it's vegan to just eat pasta with passata but it's not healthy nor is it sustainable. Experiment and work out what's best for you, and regularly check in with yourself if something needs to change.
Make sure to find good protein sources you like, try out some of those vegan substitute meats if you want to (or can afford to!), and buy foods that are fortified in B12 and other vitamins you can't get so easily.
Plants have lower or higher toxicity as defense mechanism
Do you have enough iron? I seem to struggle with that. I tried to give blood twice last year but my Hb was too low. Not low enough to be sent to GP but not enough to be able to give blood. Not sure what foods to eat more of (I do love lentils and dark green leaves and nuts...).
Toxic proteins in plants
Your sample size 1 (yourself) so take it with a pinch of salt. The studies discussed in the video involve more than one person.
@@katarinajanoskova Plant based protein powder has a lot of iron due to them being condensed versions of peas and grains. I would reccomend blending that with some fruits high in vitamin c and maybe some kale to aid in absorption. Lentils and beans are a bit difficult to absorb iron from.
Good attempt to keep up the doubt agenda for the meat and dairy industry BBC. Let’s have a video next week about all the pitfalls of the default diet we have in place currently? Maybe it’s just blatantly obvious in todays society how unhealthy it can be. There is no mention of red meat or processed meat being a class 2 and class 1 carcinogenic (World Health Organisation)
This video is a half truth which will easily make people think their meat and dairy diet is working out great for them 👎🏻
There is plenty of healthy plant based fats to maintain a healthy brain. There is also an array of foods fortified with B12 and Iodine.
Omega 3? Choline?
@@treefrog1018 flaxseed/chia seeds with with breakfast.
This is incredibly silly, I do not know any meat eaters that know how much vitamins/minerals/nutrients or even calories they need in a day. Most of them don’t even know there is 9 essential amino acids.
To begin with watch the Game Changers documentary, there’s no deficiencies if you follow a balanced plant based diet and supplement if needed. Meat eaters use all sorts of supplements and enriched foods and still manage to be deficient in vitamin D.
@@-Jay-001 The conversion rate of ALA to EPA/DHA is inefficient. There are algae based sources for EPA/DHA.
@moonlightgamers1436 you don’t need supplements… they help if you have a busy lifestyle
There is zero evidence that red meat is carcinogenic. Most western diets with meat have a side if seed oil fried chips and a sugary drink. No study has ever shown that meat is bad for you. Nitrites is some preserved meat is carcinogenic, its very easy to get nitrite free bacon
I’ve been vegan 10 years and in very good health physically and mentally. This video is cleverly presented to make veganism seem like it’s deficient. IT’S NOT. An interesting fact is that the vast majority of the meat has B12 in it because animals are supplemented with B12. 98% of animals globally are factory farmed. So when consuming meats, people are indirectly consuming the supplements that the animals were given. Just look at livestock feed… almost all of them contain B12, iron, and other minerals and vitamins. Those supplement nutrients are just accumulating in the tissues of the animals. Even grass fed animals are given supplements. This is all just health focus. The ethical aspects of veganism are even more of a reason to stop consuming animals.
Yep, that's the mainstream normalisation of meat eating at play. I see videos like this as nothing more than a continuation of the indoctrination that meat, eggs, dairy and fish are essential parts of a healthy diet and of course we now know that's not true. In fact it's pretty clear that animal produce is actually quite terrible for human health. Public broadcasters and governments are all part of the normalistion process. People's beliefs ultimately come from the incessant propaganda from the meat and dairy industries over the years. After all, there's a lot of money to be made from the abuse and exploitation of animals.
What do you mean when you say "ethical aspect"?
@@Tewahedo16 Not slitting animals throats needlessly?
They are always out to make being vegan as it would be bad for your health! I’ll tell you what’s bad for your health eating too much milk and cheese and animal products that would eventually give you high cholesterol and high blood pressure and would eventually result in a heart attack!!!
It's interesting because I was an ethical vegan 3 years ABD I ate about extremely 'healthy' diet with vitam D, lugold iodine and b vitamin supplements. My health was amazing before vaganism.
After 1 year vegan my libido was gone. After 1.5 years I had my bloods done and I was severely anemic. I had to get an iron infusion and I started supplements for iron. I never got better and I actually got worse. My pelvic floor and my wrists and haw started atrophy... rven though I'm very active. By thr 3 year mark I coukd not get up a flight of stairs and I was suicidal
Now that imeating grass fed meat and wild fish I only need to supplement iodine.
I feel beyond amazing now!
There is more in meat then just protein and iron.
So we are not just needlessly eating animals. We need it for our survival.
You will soon find this out.. just like the huge majority of vegans who have already left.
I’m sorry, I just have to say that right at the beginning of the video she forgot to mention that the animals are supplemented with B12. Definitely important to supplement B12 while pregnant. But also like 40% of people have a B12 deficiency. Vegans get plenty of choline: broccoli, peanut butter, mushrooms, etc. Like honestly this whole video just ignores the reality that a balanced vegan diet satisfies all of these concerns. Crazy how much misinformation is out there and how industry funded our dietary “knowledge” is. Go vegan for the animals, plan it out, and do it. After a couple weeks it just becomes an everyday thing as if it’s always been that way
Don't expect health advice from BBC. It also showed many fake news about iraq leading to the death of many people. They will tell anything their funders will ask for
I like tofu and broccoli
I wouldn't know how to be vegan without tofu. It's a game changer
Plants have lower or higher toxicity as defense mechanism
@@foanna18 Thanks for spamming this everywhere Carnivore MD. Small amounts of toxins are not necessarily a problem and long term research on plant based diets are better for all cause mortality, not worse.
Check Vitamin D and Iron as well. Drs are not familiar with the severe effects of low ferritin levels (storage of iron). Iron deficiency can cause fatigue, dizziness, brain fog, anxiety and much more!
@@sarahfisher8093 Those symptoms are prolific of many illnesses and easy to misdiagnose but any doctor would know that low iron causes those symptoms.
Did the meat industry sponsor this video by any chance 🤔
Probability is very high.
You took the words right out of my mouth
Just facts darling. Welcome to reality.
When common knowledge conflicts with the vegan agenda, all you have to do is blame the meat industry to protect your fragile minds.
I thought it was a well balanced video with the usual facts you hear in relation to veg diets?
BBC Reel "insurance policy" for lying to the masses. In this video description...
Disclaimer: All content within this article is provided for general information only, and should not be treated as a substitute for the medical and dietary advice of healthcare professionals. The BBC is not responsible or liable for any diagnosis or actions taken by a user based on the content of this site. The BBC encourages anyone interested in making dietary changes to consult their healthcare provider beforehand. Always consult your own GP if you're in any way concerned about your health.
I love how you take the disclaimer that people should ultimately get information directly from medical professionals and twist it into some kind of proof that a video like this is lying. As if most doctors wouldn’t agree with what was being said here.
Why is a Psychologist attempting to tell me anything about health and nutrition?
Because mental health is connected to nutrition, just look at all the vegans who suffer from depression, anxiety, brain fog etc.
@@tomlauris indeed, on the other hand let’s also look at the staggering amount of flesh eaters who are suicidal, homicidal, obese, depressed, and impotent
@@STTC-Jay Well said!
@@tomlauris Wow! It seems only vegans suffer from depression, anxiety, and brain fog.
@tohiiiimlauris
'Very high intakes of choline can lead to low blood pressure (hypotension) and liver toxicity. It may also lead to the excess production of TMAO, which is associated with a higher risk of cardiovascular disease.' 'Chronic dietary exposures to choline and TMAO were associated with development and progression of chronic kidney disease.' 'Multiple roles for choline in cancer development have been suggested. Choline can affect DNA methylation and lead to a disruption of DNA repair.' ' Conclusion: Of the 47,896 men in our study population, choline intake was associated with an increased risk of lethal prostate cancer.'
Cruciferous vegetables, certain beans are also rich in choline, and other dietary sources of choline include nuts, seeds, greens... eating a plant based diet gives you all the choline your body needs. Meat / Dairy / Egg consumers are eating way too much choline which is linked to liver damage, kidney disease and cancer and in particular prostrate cancer in men. The research is out there, I guess she didn't do enough of it.
Broccoli has more choline than chicken, so according to your logic meat is safer
You contradict yourself. First you say choline causes cancer, then you proceed to tell us how much choline is in plant foods. I guess you are saying that plants cause prostate cancer.
My mom is not statistically significant or peer reviewed but her experience has had real significance among her circle of friends and family.
2 1/2 years ago, my 80 year old mother finally had a follow up appointment with her physician which was delayed for months because her doctor has been in charge of treating Covid patients in the hospital and in nursing homes and was not able to meet with her. She had a full blood panel taken for this visit and her doctor was astounded at the progress she had made during the last year. She is now no longer diabetic and she was instructed to stop taking insulin after having been on it for 12 years. Her doctor also praised her kidney function which has never looked better. Also, she couldn't believe that her total cholesterol was only 139, with LDL of 67, HDL of 60, and triglycerides of 82 which is a big improvement for her. According to the Framingham Heart Study, these numbers mean that she is virtually "heart attack proof" as many plant based doctors have noted. Her physician (Johns Hopkins med school grad) mentioned that she is reconsidering the diet for her family based on this experience. She also asked my mom to share her experience with our community after the pandemic. All of these results are exactly what I had hoped would occur. Here is the menu that I had developed for her to try to mimic what she was used to eating -> GSP Mother's Menu - While this menu is not a pure whole foods plant based diet, it appears to be health promoting enough to work for her. I plugged her bloodwork test values into the Levine Biological Age Calculator and she has aged minus 15 years during the last 3 years. I joke with her that she may be required to give up her Social Security benefits if she keeps going like that. My understanding is that low carb diets are a workaround that do not address the root cause of diabetes which is excess intramyocellular lipids (also fatty liver/pancreas) and the resulting insulin resistance. Excess saturated fats and refined sugar/flour are the most common cause of this metabolic system failure. Unless a person can eat whole food complex carbs again without a prolonged spiking of their blood sugar, type 2 diabetes has not been reversed.
ps - She was able to get off of all blood pressure medications after 3 years, tapering off so as not to over-medicate which is dangerous because it can deprive tissues of necessary oxygen and nutrients.
Very interesting ( much more than this video ) thank you .
She turned vegan 3 years ago?
@@predator7418 She has eaten a plant exclusive diet for the past 3 1/2 years. She is not vegan technically because she dislikes animals and does not empathize with them very much. She grew up on a farm and was locked in a chicken house by her sister as a prank. She was so afraid of the baby chicks that ran toward her that she ran through a window, cutting herself badly.
@@predator7418 You don't turn vegan, you ameliorate to vegan
Your beliefs about meat based diets are not true. Look for unbiased sources.
I have been researching both vegan and carnivore diets in recent months and have come to the conclusion that both can work depending on the person. It’s the elimination of sugar and junk foods that convey most of the benefits. I thought I would share one of my observations though from watching hundreds of videos from both communities:
The carnivore community videos tend to have hundreds if not thousands of people sharing their experiences on carnivore which are 99.99% very positive. It’s often difficult to find even a single example where some had a bad experience on it. I would say at least 90% say it cleared up an array of illnesses and people feel amazing on it. These comments rarely mention vegans or a vegan style of eating. It is rare to find a case of someone who ate carnivore and switched to vegan and said they feel better or that it was the best thing they ever did.
The vegan community is littered with people castigating meat eaters and dismissing carnivore, often with a smug or hateful attitude. I understand that many people have an idealogical aversion to killing animals. It is quite common to find people who were ill on vegan and cured themselves when they switched to carnivore. Of course there are a majority that also feel great on vegan too.
I notice that it is overwhelmingly the Vegan community that spreads FUD. It is then those same “experts” that seek to sell you you on all kinds of potions, supplements and procedures. My spidey senses are tingling. In my life experience when someone hits me with FUD and then offers a solution which I need to pay for it is usually BS.
Let me give you one of hundreds of examples of this. I watched a carni video talking about SIBO, they said the vast majority of people see improvement within 2 weeks of a meat based, zero card diet. They tried to see me nothing. Then I saw the vegan community discussing this. They said it needed to be analyzed via a stool sample and then promoted a $250 stool analysis service. I see this pattern again and again and again.
Like I said, I think both diets have their benefits but do your research folks and question those spreading FUD and selling you stuff as a supposed panacea.
Do you get paid to shill? Or do you do it for free?
I say what I see, all for your benefit for free @@rabbitcreative
Cholesterol is a very weak predictor of heart disease. Most people who have heart attacks didn’t have high cholesterol. Only one type of LDL causes heart disease. These are the dense particles that have been damaged by sugar and seed (vegetable ) oils. If your triglycerides and HBa1c is high, you most likely have high levels of small dense LDL particles that could damage your vessels. Moreover, animal foods have much more bioavailable nutrients.
@Jonah Whale Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
If you don't answer the question then you are admitting you derive more worth from playing pretend than actually practicing what you preach.
Any questions can be referenced in past conversations where you didn't answer the simple fact based question there either.
Name one study that proves a plant based diet without supplements is healthy for long term health...(hint: it doesn't exist.)
We both know you won't answer so I will just accept your concession now.
Dr. Ellsworth wareham (a heartsurgeon) says that if you keep your cholestrol under a certain level, that its very unlikely for anyone to develop coronary heart disease. And that cholestrol can be lowered by eating plant-based
Lots of misinformation, here. Choline is available in many soy foods, for example. It is not necessary to supplement. Iodine is easily available in seaweeds, e.g. nori. Omega-3s are available in chia and hemp seeds, cruciferous veg, etc.
Exactly. Most salt is also iodised. It's not an issue. The only purpose of this video was to try and scare people off plant based eating. They are grabbing at straws
@@jhanson6163I was already scared off of plant-based eating by the fact that vegan food is often terrible. But sure, blame a video for confirming what many people would probably rightly suspect to begin with.
the vegan diet is the best for supply of choline; vitamin b12 is found in spirulina algae, sauerkraut, mido, tempeh and several veg alternatives to meat. Regarding iodine, a spoonful of iodized salt in pasta water is enough, while omega 3 are found in soy, in various vegetables and in dried fruit, which in the vegan diet, also for other nutritional reasons, is never lacking… Etc, etc, etc. Get informed, please.
At smaller levels, so you’d have to eat a ton.
Exactly, a quick search shows that “Plant foods that are especially rich in choline include tofu, soynuts, soymilk, cruciferous vegetables, cooked dried beans, quinoa, peanuts, and peanut butter.” So basically, all the foods that a health conscious vegan would be eating anyway. Of course a junk food vegan with a diet of soda and chips could easily become deficient in choline. But the same could be said about dietary deficiencies in a junk food omnivorous diet.
Soy is not good for your guts/digestive system, and when they turn it into tofu, that's even worse.
Watched a documentary on it.
Just be careful.
Compared to the amount of spirulina you would need to eat to reach an rda, 10 grams of liver is 300% your daily need
@@broddr Even junk food contain choline. For exemple in a soy protein isolate, the choline survives (flour is still better for other nutrients though)
Also many omnivorous are deficient in choline, so if we compare an average vegan diet to an average omnivorous diet both will be midly "deficient", but its completely wrong to say the vegan will be more deficient.
I live with my vegan partner, I am pescatarian. We've lived together for 28 years. He is 7 years older than me. Both of us are healthy, not overweight and take a daily multivitamin. He never gets sick, hikes with more stamina and has more energy. I tried being vegan several years ago and managed for abt a year. But I would say I'm more food centric than he is and love to cook. I would prefer to be vegan, it's just not for me. Bottom line as I see it, everyone gradually figures out what works for their personal health needs, lifestyle preferences and/or beliefs. We are lucky to have choices in this country.
Fish has so much parasites thats inside your body. Checkout "Seaspiracy"
What, you just can't go without cooking.... fish?
What is it about vegan food that makes it so difficult for you to cook?
@@lereff1382 It's not like I eat fish morning, noon and night. What's wrong with cooking? I cook to feed myself and my partner......Which includes includes plenty of vegan food. The great thing about my partner and I is we don't push our preferences on each other. People get along better if we can learn to accept our differences.
Plants have lower or higher level of toxicity as defense mechanism
veganism is not a diet
I am a raw vegan for 6 years and I am very happy and I have enourmous energy. I have a good focus and I have a lot of compassion, love into my heart.
This video is not telling the Truth!
Hiii
Veganism is about humans choosing to not harm animals in any part of their life; clothing, makeup products, cleaning products, to name just a few. It is NOT just a "diet." Any even slightly educated vegan eats a varied diet which includes supplements that provide all of these things.
There are MILLIONS of highly intelligent and productive athletes, business people, scientists, etc., who are vegan.
This video should be posted more as "tips to being a successful vegan" rather than trying to create a fear bias that you're going to get brain damage from being vegan. 🙄
Agree. This comes off as a pleasant psyops funded by the meat industry.
How many of those 'MILLIONS' were vegan for their entire lives? I'll be interested to see what are the results of the vegan experiment in 10.. 20.. 30 yrs time. Meanwhile, good luck being the lab-rat.
What is your verdict on ex-vegans? Are you willing to claim that every one of them "did it wrong"?
Supplements aren’t replacement for food
@@Assassin99584 Beef, eggs, oily fish & dairy appear to be excellent replacements for supplements.. I may be on the brink of a ground-breaking discovery.. but the thought police may reward me with an off the pier review, long before a genuine, peer review is possible.🙄
Isb't that why they specify this video is aboiut the vegan DIET, and not the lifestyle?
Who sent u? Every vegan and vegetarian i know are WAY more healthier, vibrant and energetic than the average meat eater. I get all my supplements thru herbs daily
Agreed…while there are good points made in the video about obtaining nutrients, the health risks of meat and dairy aren’t discussed, which could lead someone to think a plant based diet is more risky than eating bacon, butter and pork chops
Good, send me some B12 and other herbs i can use ^^
@@vlads.3192
There’s no pharmacy or health store near you where you can get your own b12 supplement?
@@vietnamd0820lol butter and meat is literally some of the healthiest things u can eat if they are from grass fed cows
@@vietnamd0820b12 supplements don't work, the diet is not fit for pre reproductive people
I was brought up on Marmite (other yeast extracts are available) on toast. This was part of my mum's efforts to prevent us developing a "sweet tooth" and to ensure we had a healthy diet. I was discouraged from sweets and even now, I would not care if I never ate sugary or chocolatey foods ever again (I do like a sweet biscuit with a black coffee to wake me up in the afternoon, though). At 66 years old, I still love yeast extract but have changed to the low salt version, which tastes just as good. It has loads of vitamin B12 and other B vitamins and adding nutritional yeast to smoothies adds more B vitamins. So easy, and yet people love to make a big deal out of it as though getting enough is going to be a problem on a vegan diet. I get so bored with all this rubbish. Choline - soybeans have more choline than beef and chicken, and potatoes and most beans have more than dairy products or even tuna. (PCRM 30.08.19). Omega 3 - nori, spirulina and chia seeds. It's about using your brain and checking your nutrition. There is masses of information out there and no need for a "qualified nutritionist" who will likely be some 22 year old graduate regurgitating conventional "wisdom".
You've literally mentioned only one ONLY ONE source of vegan food that contains B12. Ever considered that most vegans don't perhaps share your affinity for marmite and so need to be made aware of the increased risk of B12 deficiency? Or you too selfish to consider that POV?
Is it his job to provide this info? You're being vicious and ridiculous. B12 comes only from bacteria.
@@lukeoshannassy what?! It isn't his job, but he is providing info, which in itself is okay. It is his comment that is needlessly hostile towards the host. He's speaking as if it's the most natural thing to find B12 in vegan food. There's no need to be so defensive about your dietary choices
@@minimalisthealth define the comment which is hostile? No one should be attacked.
@@minimalisthealth here in India more than half billion people vegan without any serious deficiency, " Or you too selfish to consider that POV?"
where do animals get their iodine though? surely we are better off eating the source, instead of eating it 2nd hand through animal products. i love seaweed.
Supplements in their feed. It is actually hard to get the right amount plant based. Just buy a supplement if you aren't and make sure you are getting enough selenium with it since poor iodine to selenium ratios can he probematic. Selenium is found in whole grains.
Enjoy your seaweed, I prefer to eat the fish.
seaweed killer!
@@althomas6045 fish you eat have a 50 percent probability of being farmed fish that are eating algae, plant compounds, and maybe seaweed as well. So ironically you are paying for even more plant deaths than she is.
Same with B12. That vitamin is only made by bacteria. So farm animals (95% of the typical diet) get B12 as a supplement in their feed, and people are getting that supplement 2nd hand.
Fish & game get B12 by eating food that has B12 making bacteria on it. So vegans can just cut out the middle animal and consume a B12 supplement directly or, like farm animals, by eating plant foods that have been supplemented with B12.
Been a Vegan for over a year and take vegan omega 3, D3, B12, Iodine and K2.
You literally use animal products needlessly.
You were just debunked in your first three words.
The future is vegan 🥰💚🌱
Nice delusion
No lol I'm not gonna be a part of it
If a vegan diet needs supplements it can't be the optimal human diet.
Not interested in debating what's the most optimal diet ...
but b12 supplements are fed to livestock so that humans get it, it's also added to dairy products ... we are all getting it supplemented.
It's not the only thing that's added into our foods to ensure we get enough of it.
I live in a cold climate where everyone is recommended to eat vitamin D supplements, regardless of their diet...
Unless you grow/raise all your food naturally yourself ... your diet includes supplements.
Yes, llivestock are raised indoors and force feed grain instead of being on a pasture eating grass as nature intended
@@jeffreypelaske841 and vegetables for humans are cleaned too well so they no longer give people enough b12 from the dirt they used to contain
@@lahn8250 food manufacturers in the US use additives and processing banned in the EU and other countries. Start by getting US standards on food production the same as the rest of the developed world.
It is pretty clear that increasing the % of calories consumed from plants as much as possible is beneficial for health from epidemiological studies. For example, studies consistently show that plant protein is far superior for reducing mortality than animal protein (which increases mortality), even after adjusting for other factors. You probably don't need to (and probably shouldn't) completely eliminate non-vegan foods if health is your goal, but they should not make up a big chunk of your diet either. My diet is 90% vegan, with the rest being fish and dairy. I easily get 100+% of the recommended intake of every nutrient without needing any supplements whatsoever even while cutting at 1800 calories/day. Super easy if you actually know what you're doing.
Newer studies have shown that modern vegans tend to have adequate B12 levels.
My guess is because all the fear mongering works, so vegans supplement more today, and there are so many fortified foods today.
Most of the studies showing high B12 deficiency are a few decades old
True vegans are hyperaware of B12 plus B12 are fortified in a lot of vegan foods now
It's because they're better educated now
Raising awareness of vitamin deficiency isn’t fear-mongering.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Tons of people fear monger online...and some of the biggest industry lobbying in the world are trying to work against veganism growing.
Nutrient fear mongering is part of a strategy that also includes a supply of anecdotes about people that fail veganism, convincing people that meat is essential, everything is killing everything anyway, some of the Flintstones(cavemen) ate meat so that must mean something... and a lot of other great diversions that appeal to people looking to change nothing.
What absolute rubbish. A 2 week old baby would be on breast milk or formula. Has this been sponsored by the meat and dairy industry. This video is completely flawed with inaccurate information. Scary
I totally agree, I’ve been vegan 14 years now.
I'm just starting my vegan journey.
Next stop: "Why I'm no longer vegan"
@@tomlauris nope you drop kick
Please read the book "Becoming Vegan: The Complete Reference to Plant-Based Nutrition (Comprehensive Edition)" by Brenda Davis, RD and Vesanto Melina, MS RD for proper vegan nutrition guidance before becoming a vegan. Happy vegan journey!
Congratulations you won’t regret it!! The animals the planet and your body will thank you ☺️
@@soychelly836lol, keep fooling yourself 😂
Foods to eat to avoid all issues mentioned
- Moringa powder
- Spirulina
- Beetroot/spinach
- Broccoli and other high choline brassica
- Seaweed flakes
- Nutritional yeast
- Olive/Flax seed (oil or whole seed)
If you've been vegan for a while you'll know none of this is difficult to obtain or prepare. Also eat organic wherever possible for other micronutrients such as copper.
They could've just put this in the video but instead framed as some half hearted hit piece.
I’ve never heard someone say olive oil is bad
The reason we eat meat is because it is more nutrient dense. Our ancestors prefer meat to vegetables because when you eat only vegetables you have to spend half your day chewing to get the same nutrients. The problem with meat arises when you eat American sized portions and the meat is half your plate.
Meat and slavery was quite productive in the past. Actually it was the basis of our civilization but in today's world both are not sustainable. Meat causes environmental decay and slavery causes every problem possible. So we have to change our diet according to our circumstances.
You can't feed the entire world meat. Neither can raise cattle in space or moon. You have to go vegan or plant based in future for environmental reason in earth and sustainability issues in space
NO.
*"Nikocado Avocado's"* mental health is the living proof as of today still...
His mental health went downhill after he started eating all that greasy fast food with all the animal products👎🏼
a vegan diet can be oreos, chips, and soda or can be a balanced diet of whole plant foods. there is no set vegan diet. these news articles and stories need to stop.
Its a pathetic attempt at fear mongering as they watch the public start to open their eyes and find out about horrors behind the products theyve been buying.
Ladies and gentlemen, this feature was proudly sponsored by BIG MEAT AND DAIRY.
Let me guess: you’re one of those people who think vaccines are bad because they’re created by Big Pharma?
Most studies show vegan people living longer , still This video portraits vegans as this people that need to supplement loads in order to survive. B12 should be the only worry if you are having a balanced wholefood diet , and not just for vegans, omni should supplement too.
the oldest ppl recorded to live were not vegans. they all meat and were between 114-126. not a single vegan, but a few vegetarians. the ppl who have the longest life expectancy on earth eat the most meat. you are simply wrong.
Even the Okinawans consumed pork, seafood, etc.
I see this video not as "it is bad to be vegan, because", rather as "if you are, look out for..." - the same way as people with a non-vegan diet should check their BP and cholesterol.
There are zero studies that show vegans live longer. Stop lying.
I became very ill from being mostly vegan (we had rescue hens, so I also ate eggs). After my health had been deteriorating for years my Dr ran a bunch of blood tests and I was very low in many food groups. I was sent to a dietician who told me to start eating animal products if I wanted to get better, which I did. This was 4 years ago now and I'm like a new person. I'm so much stronger, more energetic and my depression is gone. So no, I don't think this video is misleading at all.
As though the majority of UK diets are healthy and balanced. Have you seen the contents of people's shopping trolleys and long queues at fast food restaurants. I have had several friends over the years (meat eaters) who have been deficient in b12. The majority of animals I'm the UK are factory farmed and supplemented with b12.
Most uk animals are not remotely factory farmed. Some chickens are, but the vast majority of cows and sheep are grazed on grass outside
@@quillo2747 Absolute nonsense. You think KFC chicken is free range, McDonalds, supermarket frozen? Nearly all UK chicken is intensively reared and reaches "yield maturity" in 42 days, thus causing terrible joint problems. The intensive conditions are filthy and inhumane. Most pigs are reared indoors and most cows are indoors for the winter, as grass only grows for around five months in the UK. Some cattle are indoors permanently, and this is becoming more common. If you look at the smallprint on "free range" beef packaging, it usually says pasture fed for 120 days. As for sheep, they are so selectively bred for yield that they can't survive without regular intervention (shepherds are very busy people), and about 4% per year die due to health problems from selective breeding. Just because animals are outside doesn't mean that the methods are not industrialised and intensive. Only 5% of UK farmed animals are free range. All are man-made genetic mutants for maximum yield. Also, there are no special high welfare slaughter houses. All farmed animals meet a disturbing and violent end regardless of what's printed on the shrink-wrap.
@@quillo2747 A good joke! You must live in a fantasy world.
@@davidpalk5010 Well said!
Love how you strawmanned meat eaters by implying that their diets are all unbalanced and therefore invalid. Truly a master of the argument, you are.
Our body needs nutrition. It doesn't matter from where you get it. Wise choice of food can easily meet our nutrition requirement
It does matter since different sources of a nutrient have different levels of bioavailability. Let's take spinach for instance. It is rich in iron yet your body will only absorb about 2% of the iron in it because we can't digest and absorb it correctly. The heme iron in meat however is easily absorbed by our bodies. Where it comes from matters.
@@MrRJPEexactly organ meats are nature multivitamin
Misleading title much? "How these specific nutrient deficiencies affect your brain" is a more apt title imo. These deficiencies along with a host of others such low dietary fibre, low vitamin d3 are also prevalent amongst people conforming to different diets. But, we don't see BBC making such videos titled "How XYZ diet affects your ABC".
The best impact a vegan diet has on my brain is having a clear conscience that no animals were killed for my food.
honestly same!
vegans are the dumbest people I know. Not only does pesticides kill tons of pollinating bees and insects but it also kills an estimated 67,000,000 song and migratory song birds each and every year. Not only that but the strip mines where your vitamins and supplements are mined erodes the land, poisons the creeks and waterways, and displaces countless animals you claim to care about. As a carnivore I only shoot and kill the one deer or elk I plan to eat and that is all. Vegans are destroying the planet with their diet and then lie to themselves about it.
Except the ones that were killed when crop land was cleared and pesticides were sprayed… But I guess they’re too small and creepy for you to care about them, huh?
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Do you have any evidence that more deaths occur on crop land vs wild land?
She forgot to mention the reduced risk of Alzheimer’s disease… guess the British Lard Board didn’t tell her 🤷♀️
Exactly what I was thinking…there’s promising research that a vegan diet can reverse early dementia but instead they spread misinformation.
One of the greatest health benefits of Veganism is slowing down of aging (almost anti-aging). With regards to B12 even Animal-eaters would experience same B12 deficiencies if it's not added into the Meat. BTW fish gets the Omegas from the Algae's so why not take directly from the source (and not fill your body with heavy metals and micro-plastic that sea foods come with). STEMINA, we all know the sexual research that proved that Vegans have better sexual stamina in comparison to the Animal-eaters, even sports stamina also improves a great deal by a balanced/healthy Vegan diet, no wonder so many top athletes/sports people are going vegan.
name few athletes on vegan diet
@@ishangimhan6112 strongman Patrick Baboumian for one. Watch "The Game Changers" doccie for further athletes, firemen, weight lifters, body builders and other folk.
@@ishangimhan6112 The athletes probably supplement the nutrients only found in meat. You can call them meat based bioactive compounds.
Carnosine (beta-alanine), creatine, taurine, carnitine.
There are more nutrients you can only get by meat, poultry, sea creatures. I was on a vegan diet for 7 years, I should have never done that.
I'm an active 65 yo and tried going off animal protein, within 18 months my muscle wasting and brain fog was so alarming I went back to eating meat. These so called experts who will say you only need 30gms per day of poorly absorbed plant proteins is absolute rubbish.
Maybe just maybe you did something wrong.
@@rdhr3610yeah, they did something wrong by adopting a diet that they and most people on the planet clearly weren’t built for.
Plant-based protein is readily absorbed and don't try to make out it isn't. Have been vegan for over 8 years and my muscles are fine.
Jonathanmagic, usually people who fail at giving up animal products do so because they are not eating a well balanced whole food all plant diet,in other words they are eating rubbish.
Many amazing top world athletes are winning because of eating a whole food all plant diet, they are certainly not suffering from lack of protien.
The hospitals are not full of vegans but are full of people who eat animals and their secretions.
Watch" game changers" watch "25 ripped athletes" PT 1 and PT 2, watch " Fiona Oakes Rich Roll to name just a few.
Veganism is not a diet.
Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude as far as is possible and practicable all cruelty and exploitation of animals for food,clothing, entertainment or any other purpose.
Ethical vegans will always find a way to live a healthy life without causing suffering and death to anyone.
Agreed! But vegans are a cult of skeletons and won’t admit it
Why does this video have so many dislikes, nothing in this video is attacking veganism in any way, it's simply bringing light and attention to possible deficiencies that a vegan will face in their life if they're uninitiated in common deficiencies. This is an informative video meant to help you better understand what to do if you're experiencing certain symptoms whilst employing this way of eating. Not a video meant to defame or belittle veganism.
So sensitive...
Because people hate the truth, look at all the people in the comments trying to validate their biases.
They don't even watch the video or look at the data as they want to stay in their echo chamber of affirmation based on lacking scientific data.
Truth is there is alot I mean alot of things vegans miss out on when it comes to optimal health:Glucosamine, Chondroitin, Glycosaminoglycans Hydroxyapatite, Coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10),Collagen, Peptides, B12, B2, K2, Niacin DHA, EPA, taurine, carnosine, creatine, anserine, carnitine, choline, glycine, selenium, iodine, zinc, magnesium,calcium, iron (especially as female), omega-3, amounts of leucine isoleucine and valine should be monitored weirdly enough cholesterol, as you need this nutrient, and vitamin A is also a concern. All these nutrients improve brain health and have been shown to enhance problem-solving skills within adults and children alike.
I'm actually a keto/carnivore. I eat salmon, eggs, beef, deer, elk, butter, beef liver, cod liver oil, sauerkraut, kimchi, and honey. You wanna know the secret? Grass fed, pasture raised, wild caught, organic. Vegans are literally killing themselves but are too nieve. Vegitables dont absorb nearly as much nutrients are they are being told. Certain nutrients can only be absorbed with fat. Idk. Save the animals or save yourself.
Because it sells supplements, that ,'s all
@@AnavonRebeurnot really, points out that cutting off *any* food group merits talking with a professional (qualified nutritionist), whether or not there is a deficiency is at an individual level (some may, some won't), and that supplements are *one* option (depending on the individual's situation).
@@AnavonRebeurfalse
Not the old tired B12 argument, need to come up with some new arguments. Depending on your diet lots of people can be vitamin deficient. Animals get B12 from the food they eat. Vegetables and grains. Than people eat the animals and get the B12, the fact we wash our vegetables and purify our water removes the B-12.
Did they not mention other nutrients as well? Or are you only focusing on that argument because it takes slightly more effort to counter than the others?
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 the other nutrients are even easier to find in a well-planned plant-based diet. Take care.
Many meat eaters are deficient or low in B12. That's despite the fact that farmers often give cattle, chickens and sheep B12 supplements along with other vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids and amino acids. It's not so easy to supplement cabbages, carrots and potatoes with those things. Everyone should take a B12 supplement or consume fortified food. In fact it's best for everyone to take a multivitamin and mineral tablet. Many vegans don't. Often out of ignorance. Years ago it was quite common for babies to be born with rickets because their meat-eating mothers didn't provide them with enough vitamin D. Babies can be born with spina bifida if their meat-eating mothers don't provide them with enough folic acid. Those vitamins are now added to certain foods to ensure women get enough.
When I was 12 my geography teacher (non vegan) showed us a rather graphic video of where all our meat and dairy products come from. I was vegan since that day and never looked back. If you think that's too gory to show kids then well maybe that just shows we shouldn't be eating it anymore! I'm 20 now and although I could have put more thought into getting everything I need over the years, I'm doing just fine. I'm forever grateful for Mr Daniels showing us that video. I'm sure I would've still gone vegan at some point but I'm glad it happened sooner rather than later.
@Grazia Costa carnivore?? you only eat meat..?
@Grazia Costa ok so you're omnivore! when you said carnivore i thought you meant you only eat meat and nothing else.
for me, i've been a vegetarian for 6 years, and started transitioning to veganism about a month ago, and the only difference i noticed is :
when i went vegetarian, i gained weight (because i was really skinny before that, and since i payed more attention to what i ate, and ate better, i gained weight). and when i went vegan, nothing changed (for now), except the fact that i feel way better knowing that i don't pay and support some horrible ways to do. i also learned to cook in the past month! i didn't know at all because i'm a minor, i've never done that before. but veganism forced me to get into cooking and nutrition
(sorry for mistakes, i'm french)
You are only doing yourself in if you just eat plants.
@Grazia Costa well collagen usually comes from the marrow and fat of meat😂😂😂
@@MsCellobass I am yet to see proof of that
Everybody should have b12 checked, not just vegans. There are more meat eaters with b12 deficiency than vegans... possibly because of the prevalence of vitamin supplements among vegetarians in general.
In the US, 132 million people are estimated to have b12 deficiency. In contrast there are only 7 million vegans in the US. If every one were b12 deficient, which they're not, 125 million b12 deficient individuals in the US eat meat. But the fact is the largest estimations I've seen are 20% of vegans. About a million of that 132 million b12 deficient individuals.
@@Shevock If the USA has this high deficiency in B12... no wonder people are idiots there... :D
Vegan diet is universal. everyone can thrive on this type of food intake. As long as you vary your plant-based foods, you won't get any B12 or other nutrient or vitamin deficiencies. Eating fresh produce rather than processed and in moderation is the way to make sure you are not lacking in anything that is vital to your health. Also vegan food is animal cruelty free so you are not contributing to the suffering of living beings.
There are now so many new products coming out that offer much greater choice for vegans. A favourite one is mature cheddar flavour Violife cheese which is perhaps the closest product to animal milk cheese but you can get several other types including vegan blue cheese, vegan camembert and vegan smoked which is very tasty. The almond, hazelnut and other nut milks are delicious substitute products also.
Yeah… Sorry, but I’m pretty sure I’ve had vegan mac-and-cheese before, and it was the blandest thing ever. I don’t care how much you care about livestock animals (as opposed to all the small animals who have to be killed when farmland is cleared for human-edible crops to be grown, who apparently never register with you guys). If you can’t make food that is at least as good AND as nutrient-rich as the animal products we already have, we’re not gonna join your movement.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Of course you don't care about animals which is why you support their exploitation and abuse. There are good quality vegan foods and there are bland ones, just like some of those in an omnivorous diet and anyway, there is no movement for you to join, just people that have compassion for other living beings and those who don't. Finally, plant-based foods are as nutritious as meat and dairy.
What utter vegan slandering yet again. B12 should be supplemented by everyone, as it's from microorganisms and eaten by animals from soil. Modern hygiene has really impacted this even in agriculture so not even the animals get enough. I know people who eat meat who are deficient in B12.
Nutrition is key, and that means wholefood plant based is the healthiest and most sustainable. Eat a varied diet and you won't get into trouble.
You forgot carnosine. Because the precursor beta-alanine is also only found in meat, poultry and sea creatures. The assumption of some veggies containing any relevant amounts of beta-alanine is a myth on the internet which is debunked when you trace back the citation of that claim in a paper.
In other words, with a few simple supplements you have nothing to worry about. B12 is extremely easy to get enough of. In fact, it's well represented in a generic multivitamin I take. Or just get a multivitamin that is designed specifically for vegans. They are starting to make those. So, basically, with a little research you can get a single multi that fills all the holes in the diet no problemo.
If the vegan diet is so great, then why are there so many holes in it? Those are your words.
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 I'm not a vegan but I'm supplementing B12 and other vitamins (like D3) too because I don't aware of the actual consumption of these nutrients. Hence, it's much easier to supplement vitamins and minerals than rely on dietary sources exclusively. I'm thinking of switching to a plant-based lifestyle and if decide to go vegan I won't need to extend supplementation.
@@YuraL88 If you go totally vegan, you will have to extend your supplementation. DHA and EPA at the very least. They are essential and not found in plants. Vitamin A is another one.
Why did you simplify it and not watch the video
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 You think you can't get vitamin A from plants? Have you heard of carrots? Taking a supplement is nothing. NOTHING! There are multiple companies that make a single product explicitly for vegans. How hard is it to take one gel cap? Because that's all you need. Even if you are an omnivore, most people don't get enough omega 3, B12, or D. What is harder, taking 1 gel cap, or keeping a dead fish in your fridge, cutting it up, and cooking it, and that's just for your omegas?
You would think the BBC would have informed us that humans originally had B12 in their diet because of bacteria in the untreated water they drank, not from an animal diet. Pretty much everybody needs to supplement B12 regardless of diet. Also, the BBC didn't seem to consider vegans getting B12 from fortified foods like cereals and many plant based processed " meats " are fortified with B12.
I've been Vegan 8 years and had a blood test the other day. My B12 level was around 500 obviously not deficient. I get my B12 the same way the animals that people eat get theirs from fortified foods or supplements. I can say with absolute certainty that eating animals is not necessary.
Really? Tell me, how much do all those “fortified” foods and supplements cost compared to their animal product counterparts?
Way less
Very interesting view.ALSO ANIMALS we eat get their b12 from supplements. So why shouldn't we do the same?
Vegan for 46 years and healthy. I denifinately beleive it slows the aging process down.
That's what you think. I bet you look like a malnourished alien.
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Farmed animals are supplemented with B12, not naturally occurring in animal products :)
You hear need for eggs and diary repeatedly-so vegetarian instead of vegan?
A warning, I am omnivore. Did a few tests, and I was very low in B12 ! It can happen to everyone
Got cured of PCOS with the herbal medicine from DR RORPOPOR HERBAL on TH-cam whose channel was the primary convincing platform that made me use the herbs..
and another instance of bad reporting here: the b12 deficiency signs mentioned here are common for many issues and maddeningly non-descript. but tingeling in the fingers and tongue are common signs for b12 deficiency as b12 also works on the nervous system.
seemingly biased against veganism and poorly presented. research these topics on you own with verifiable sources.
BBC (lots of hearty laughter!) This 67 year old Vegan is in fine fettle altogether thanks!
Great thing about veganism is that you fall in love with a nature. You treat every vegie with a respect and gratitude, and become more aware of your body as a separate entity who has own needs That realtion is worthy perusing.
Even the carnivorous plants?
If you fall in love with nature, than why does your food require so much farmland to be cleared for crops? Because that actually has a terrible effect on ecosystems as well.
But vegans kill and eat plants more than the omnivores 😂😂
Wow from where did you get all this informations ?
Veganism is generally defined as living in a way that avoids consuming, using, or exploiting animals as much as realistically possible. While this leaves room for individual preferences & barriers, the overall intent is that minimal harm is done to animals through life choices. My friends don’t care what they eat as long as there’s no animals involved. Oreos & margaritas are vegan! 😂
I don't know about turning to being a 100% vegan... But im pretty much happy preferring vegetarian for like 75% most of my meals in week and having lean meat in less proportions over weekends and little dairy for probiotics on alternate days.
I have lost a decent amount of weight, I'm having a constant weight for 3 years now. Feel lighter and much more productive. My digestion is improved.
So everything in moderation is good, all this hype about being a vegan is actually over rated i guess
You lost me at dairy for probiotics 🤮, must be nice to not be lactose intolerant 😁.
@@darith770 Thanks, I just watched two short videos with that in the title, gruesome stuff.
@@giovannipiacen85 👍
Plants have lower or higher level of toxicity as defense mechanism
For cows and pigs, this moderation turns out to be brutality in moderation.
You do not have to subject yourself to complex diets, play with the risk of pregnancy complications, or injure yourself in order to be healthy and happy. You can still live a long and healthy life. The majority of people become vegan due to bloating and other irregular issues. Omnivore diets are simple and straightforward; no planning is needed. Just eat less, eat healthily, and work out. Period.
Rather not support the meat industry and kill things unecessarily
@jaredadams5748
A. But do you rather demand more child labor and poor working conditions? Technically, fruits and vegetables come from 3rd world countries in the winter months, and an addiction to more demand increases the need for torturous conditions for humans.
B. This may sound silly, but every time you hop into your car to go watch a Disney movie or have a beer with your buddies, you're killing countless animals that hit your windshield and increasing the probability of more roadkill.
C. More animals die from harvesting food than from livestock. Many vegans will tell you this is wrong, but in the end, whatever data they are sharing with you will never account for the number of bees that die during transportation from one farm to another from stress!
@@raiitalyand what do the animals, whose flesh you scoff, consume? Oh, harvested grains, grasses etc. Your argument has whopping inconsistencies and contradictions.
If your diet needs supplements , you need a better diet
Apparently it makes you insane and incredibly annoying.
This is wild. When I was vegetarian for a few months, I didn’t have brain fog, low mood, fatigue, etc. I actually felt more energised and with a clearer head. Switched back to meat and the brain fog was back, cholesterol was high, etc. I’m not saying vegetarianism is for everyone but it sure is better for me. This video is biased.
1:05 this is nonsense bbc... i'm a vegan and my b12 CONSISTENTLY (every year) scores in the very highest range.. maybe because i eat nutritional yeast regularly in my food.. also i take a general multi (mainly for vitamin D.. i'm pretty sun conscious having fair skin and living in australia.. lol
How does that nutritional yeast taste?
@@eeyorehaferbock7870like cheese
Vitamin B12 Rich Vegetables
Alfalfa. The term “Alfalfa” is derived from the Arabic word, which refers to the topmost part of plants. ...
Beetroot. Beetroots are an excellent source of vitamin B12 and other crucial nutrients, including iron. ...
Mushroom. Mushrooms come from fungi species. ...
Potato. ...
Butternut Squash.
Beetroots are an excellent source of vitamin B12 ?? Beetroots as plants do have vitamin B12. Don't be a joker.
Ever heard of plant oxalates? They greatly hinder your body from absorbing the vitamins. For example spinach is high in B12 but you body can only absorb 1% because of the plant defenses and toxins. A human can get nearly every nutrient it needs from a large fatty ribeye steak. Carnivores do not have to visit a witch doctor to get magic spells and potions to keep us alive.
As a vegeterian,I am proud of vegan.
Yall are very strong.
I LOVE YOU ALL :)
All brainwashed by stupid vegan propaganda.
I am 24 years old, earlier I was non-vegetarian and I was very unhealthy, then one of my friends told me about veganism and I started following vegan diet, since then my health started getting better.
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I have been vegan for 30 years and healthier than ever before. So rubbish information about B12 deficiency. And a athlete in my 50's. So please stop saying stupid information.
Do you take B12 supplement?
What a shame BBC!
I will never understand veganism. I could probably go vegan and live my life normally. But I don't want to be obsessively tracking my supplements and ensuring I eat all sorts of trees just to ensure that I have the minimum recommended levels of nutrients. No thanks, I will continue with my omnivore diet. Plus meat smells and tastes great!
My friend went on atkins and I noticed she developed halitosis. She also had high colesterol. I gave her Aliciasilverstones brilliant book The kind Diet about becoming vegan. She read it and became vegan and surprise just as I knew it would she no longer has high colesterol.
_"Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."_
*(Albert Einstein)*
@@upturnedblousecollar5811vegetarianism isn’t veganism though.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 Where did anybody say it was?
people should just eat what they want. But to call a vegan diet enviromentally friendly is stretching it a bit.
@Jonah Whale you have no clue what you are talking about . let me enlighten you, crops are grown in a field, that field is ploughed , look into the millions of wild animals killed yearly world wide due to ploughing. then you have insect control measures that kill unfathobal amounts of insects each year. and thats while we still farm animals. imagine how many would die if every field was for crops???? You claim to be all self righteous yet you pick and choose which beings we should care about. And come to think of it aren't plants alive? they all breathe ,feed and reproduce don't they? So i think that kind of blows a little hole in your enviromentaly friendly vegan lifestyle. You don't like meat and that's fine, it's your choice. but stop with the enviromental lies it's as old as flat earth.
@Jonah Whale nope, but you have proven my point that you are a self righteous idiot. so how do vegans plough a field?! I never said anything about pesticides , i said insect control. but you tell yourself whatever you want if it helps you sleap at night, truth is things die for us to eat. the only difference is i'm okay with that. And as for the grammer ,i'll leave that to the karen institute of grammer. I've got other things to be doing other than caring about grammer on a youtube comment. but whatever floats your boat. If everyone becomes vegan wouldn't the crops have to be grown on an industrial level? You will become your enemy would you not. why can't you just live and let live?
@Jonah Whale Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
If you don't answer the question then you are admitting you derive more worth from playing pretend than actually practicing what you preach.
Any questions can be referenced in past conversations where you didn't answer the simple fact based question there either.
Name one study that proves a plant based diet without supplements is healthy for long term health...(hint: it doesn't exist.)
We both know you won't answer so I will just accept your concession now.
This sounds kind of biased
I agree. Everything about this screams paid promotion. These biased stories appear like clockwork every January. It's part of the growing PR effort to combat Veganuary
Veganism is ideological so it's not really surprising that it would be out of keeping with the body's needs
@@ottoweininger8156 eat dead, decaying, rotting bloody corpse full of disease, bacteria, ecoli, salmonella, hormones, estrogen and pharmaceuticals from animal’s tortured and murdered in their own sht….that becomes cancerous when cooked….enjoy the ibs and clogged arteries……natural
@@Regulus3333 humans have eaten meat for two million years+. Surprisingly the meat is dead, yes (so are the plants you eat btw) - but it isn't diseased. If it was we wouldn't have got very far.
Veganism is entirely dependent on industrial society. You eat plants, covered in pesticides, from completely different climates and countries you live in, plus manufactured supplements. If modern civilisation ended tomorrow no-one would be vegan. So yeah, 'natural'.
The study I found says iodine deficiency was found in 75% of the omnivores and 92% of Vegans. So, this is not only a Vegan issue. B12 levels were not significantly different either.
One thing was very clear, overall cholesterol and LDL levels were significantly lower in the vegan group.
This was really helpful but there needs to be more done to warn of the dangers of veganism especially for pregnant women and children.
I am a “live and let live” kind of guy. I don’t tell vegans what to eat and I don’t let them me what to eat.
except in your case it's who you eat, and that's needlessly cruel.
@@Brukner841 That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
@@leeretaschen231 objectively, these animals suffer at our hands for no reason, it's your opinion that that's an opinion, easier to see it like that.
B12 deficiency can also lead to alzheimers btw
Wait until vegans realise plants are alive too 💀
Moreover, the German branch of a Japanese university has established that when the fetus of a cucumber is externally damaged, it begins to emit gases and low-frequency sound waves comparable to a cry of pain. So, vegans are even bigger sadists than carnivores.
My friend and I were enjoying some great burgers in a nice restaurant when the two girls across from us started complaining about the smell of meat. I asked her if she was enjoying her blackberry cobbler. She was responded with a "yes, very much". I asked her if she realized the blackberry tart she was eating is a carnivore. She said "it is not, it's a fruit!". I told her blackberry's have long spikes pointed inward toward the plant mounted on long vines so that when the animals get entangled they die of starvation and decay feeding the plant nutrients. She suddenly didn't like her cobbler so much. And, bonus; we ate our burgers in peace.
Wow! Is that actually how they keep pests away from blackberries? I’ve never heard of that before!
BBC should investigate the connection between eating disorders and veganism. The majority of vegans seem to come from EDs, veganism is just another form of restrictive eating for them.
vegans that have eating disorder are who justify and buy animal products at non-vegans.
Wow.
Propaganda at its best!
B12 doesn't come the animal.
It comes from the supplements that are fed to animals.
We all need b12 supplements because we treat our drinking water, since b12 comes from bateria.
@annieg1812 read my comment.
And if you don't understand, then Google it. Why wouldn't you want to look it up? You don't know me, I could be lying. Bacteria make b12. Animals end up digesting it from water and plants that have the Bacteria naturally living there. In modern times, we started sterilizing our water and washing our plant foods, so we don't get b12 anymore.
The animals we used to eat had b12, but even that is not a sure source anymore. Often livestock is kept in indoor conditions with factory made feed, so they give the animals b12 supplements, then we eat the unhealthy meat as a way to get b12. We can cut out the middleman (in this case the middle cow?), and take supplements ourselves.
But please, look up the studies.
I wouldn't take health advice from a youtube comment.
Post script.
I can't remember the spelling. And if don't Google it, I won't remember how. ....I can say it, but the spelling....hmmm
Well, there's 3 kinds, although most people only talk about methyl and cyano....can't remember the third prefix.
But, I'm sure a quick Google search will answer your questions. Thank you for your interest.
Coubalin?
Cuobalim?
Cobaulim?
I had the low grade symptoms of b12 deficiency. I was blamed and shamed for being "lazy". My folks raised me vegetarian without eggs. This was in the 80s when nothing was known. I was an experiment. They saw no nutritionist. I didn't even have bloodwork til I was an adult because of my mothers needle phobia and her blind faith that her guru spoke the truth on our intended diet. The only "education" my parents had was words from their guru who was an ignorant uneducated dude from India. Growing up in ISKON was hard. I remember the first time I tried fish my mood was lifted that night and I felt like I took a sedative. My anxiety levels were so low. I had no idea I could be calm so I kept eating that way.
I’m sure the many fish that you’ve eaten thank you for taking their lives! You could have just learned more about nutrition instead of thinking that animal derived “nutrients” were what you needed.
Vegetable only diet make me very sad and tired. And can hurt social life.
Same for me. Growing up in a vegetarian household it seemed I was always hungry and craving real foods like meat and eggs.
They tried hard here lol. Remember folks all nutrients and protein originate from plants. So this video is literally telling you that you need to wait for the animal to eat these vitamins then brutally torture kill this animal for it's flesh so we can consume the left over nutrients it retains from the plants it ate in the short life it lived. Why not just eat plants. For example they really tried say how hard it is to get omega 3. It's literally as simple as eating either a few walnuts a day or a single table spoon of ground flax in you smoothie or oatmeal. It's mind boggling how much money goes into the mainstream media paid by animal agriculture to keep us dumb and uninformed. Time to stand up against animal cruelty and Go Vegan. It is the future. The current way we are doing things is unsustainable. So be on the right side of history folks
The conversion of ALA to EPA/DHA is not efficient enough. There are plant based sources of EPA/DHA which are derived from algae.
Vegans are animal killers
@@rubenhans5003 weird that's all I eat every day and have for the past 8 years and I'm not deficiencent in dha omega 3
You literally have no idea how different the digestive systems of herbivores are from those of humans, do you?
Who tf asked the psychologist anything
Probably whoever wondered if a vegan diet can affect your mental processes. Which it clearly can.
Edit: One of my statements below about vegan children needing to take taurine supplements if they are not breastfed is apparently a controversial issue, and may not be true. I am not sure and will continue researching. It was based on one source that I read.
One thing worth mentioning that was omitted in the video (as good as it was) is this: livestock are fed b12 supplements.
So if you think that by eating meat you are getting all your b12 "naturally" you may -- in part -- be deceiving yourself.
In addition everyone should probably take b12 supplements , at least occasionally, as it is also an absorption issue.
Another thing - vegan children MUST get supplements for Taurine if they are not breastfed, or their formula lacks it.
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Who says no animals are killed growing the vegetables? Oh its just about cute fluffy mamals
Even some plants eat meat 😂
Mice and rabbits are cute fluffy mammals who also get killed in droves when land is cleared and pesticides are sprayed to grow crops. Literally the only animals that most vegans really care about are cows, pigs, and chickens. Funny enough, I’ve been up close to all of those animals because I grew up in a rural area, and guess what? I don’t care that much for any of them. Cows just come across as big and dumb to me, pigs will literally eat you without a second though if you fall into a herd of them, and chickens aren’t always the most pleasant of animals either. Yes, I support more humane practices of raising livestock, but there’s literally no reason to suggest that they deserve some kind of special treatment.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 I used to work at a farm and fed about 100 chicken daily, I had to open a barrel and throw a few cups of grain for them to eat. But if I wasn't fast enough they would attack me haha. Nasty creatures 😅