Lore Olympus is finally over

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  • Sorry I'm sick again but I decided to ramble on about the webtoon Lore Olympus that is finally ending. I don't say every thought I have cause we would be here al day and I didn't write a script. One day I'll learn.

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  • @stridinghearts
    @stridinghearts 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5921

    "the only way to get out of an abusive situation is getting married to a man. a very old man." LMAO????

    • @seraphim108
      @seraphim108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +197

      "feminist retelling"

    • @tiginny60
      @tiginny60 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      That's what I felt too. Like this feels very hating on the guy stuff.

    • @user-dontdothemost
      @user-dontdothemost 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@tiginny60how because she said he’s way older than her which is true how is that man hating he’s getting criticized just like the other characters y’all always think someone’s just trying to hate on every man like a male character can’t take criticism

    • @LesbianKimDokja
      @LesbianKimDokja 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@tiginny60hes like 3000 years older then her and shes built like a mature 13 year old.

    • @minty2900
      @minty2900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Correction: wealthy old man ☝️

  • @prench
    @prench 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9787

    sorry, she was cursed with WRATH at birth?? that's just like. sentience.

    • @us3r003
      @us3r003 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

      Lmao i love this comment

    • @vividd8246
      @vividd8246 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +353

      don’t probably all of the gods have that???

    • @cakefrosting6451
      @cakefrosting6451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      LMAOOOOOO BAHAHAHA

    • @alliu6562
      @alliu6562 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +410

      So basically the ONE THING I thought they did alright (allow Persephone to experience rage and anger, unlike most female protagonists of YA novels aimed at young girls and women, and with rage being one of the few ways she has agency in her life) they… basically said “nah that’s not actually her, she was cursed by it”???????? Like that’s so bad, it’s SO BAD, in a story that largely centers on Persephone’s lack of personal agency, the author. Takes away. Her personal agency. As a plot point. That goes nowhere.

    • @AppleCore247
      @AppleCore247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Unrelated, but your profile picture is my freaking childhood man- BOBBY HD or something??

  • @Asuna35
    @Asuna35 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5910

    I wonder if Rachel had some issues with her mother and projected it onto Demeter because the Demeter slander in this comic was unbelievable.

    • @jessnalulila5552
      @jessnalulila5552 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +399

      Mother characters in general weren't well written in LO

    • @malinasworld
      @malinasworld 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +515

      There’s def some projection going on in there… Like how Minthe’s body is insulted or compared negatively to Persephone’s on at least two occasions (I gave up on the comic pretty early on) and what do you know… The author is curvy too.

    • @alexmoon066
      @alexmoon066 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      Hating on mother is such a nono for me. That’s the ultimate misogyny

    • @seraphim108
      @seraphim108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +240

      ​​@malinasworld Minith also turned curvy on the latter stages of the comic, despite the "flat" jokes; Hera also turned curvy too, and I kid you not there are panels recolored and she looks EXACTLY LIKE. PERSE.
      And I do think the author projects onto perse a lot, Hades was based upon her biggest childhood crush, (whose a much older man) and the authors favorite book was Lolita + I think she used to be open about her k//nks? And sometimes, the writing comes off as very, marysu-y, like, how perse has pretty much no flaws besides "she's a push over 🥺" and later, when wrath was her flaw, it was shown to be a gift so not even technically hers? idk, weird

    • @jessnalulila5552
      @jessnalulila5552 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      @@seraphim108 also Hermes was based on the author Rachel ex-boyfriend

  • @ajgameguy3674
    @ajgameguy3674 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2599

    It will never not be weird to see Webtoon comics that were advertised on here SO heavy a couple years back are now falling off hard.

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember seeing so many ads of webtoon especially lore Olympus. I still remember it vividly. After that I got many ads for Tapas, Lezhin and some other comic website

    • @kimberleywilliams7802
      @kimberleywilliams7802 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +280

      Probably because of the way webtoon is set up. Authors are encouraged to drag out their stories for close to a decade and because of this the story elements suffer greatly. They also pay so much attention to the art, that the actual story (what makes it readable) becomes shallow like they run out of things to write or they're trying to match the story to the art rather than the opposite. I don't think a lot of them know how to develop a good and consistent plotline.
      Edited: for readability.

    • @melchior7346
      @melchior7346 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Tower of God still ON TOP

    • @lulugoodnight2747
      @lulugoodnight2747 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Everyday I think about what happened to noblesse

    • @seraphina1724
      @seraphina1724 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

      True Beauty was never very good but the way the author had to drag it out and basically recycled the same plot line four times across 200 chapters was wild
      Edit: I actually think the first couple chapters were pretty good. They had personality

  • @pommyh3ck
    @pommyh3ck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5397

    I'll never forgive what they do to Ares. He's the least problematic god, never SA anyone, the father of the amazonas and true lover of Aphrodite. And they make him a sexist creeper who make Aphrodite miserable???? Really it's seems the creator didn't MAKE ANY RESEARCH

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +153

      Whaaa? Wait huh? You sure you’re not getting characters mixed up……bc I’m pretty sure that was Apollo, no?
      Also I also do know one version where I forgot his name but I think he sends humans to the underworld or whatever is also one of the least problematic God as well.

    • @justtrying1952
      @justtrying1952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +745

      ​​​​​@@bituinlNo. They're right, Ares never SA'd anyone and IS the father of the Amazon's. Apollo is done dirty here too (if your referring to him being the sexist one in the story, I believe they both where) in the actual myths he did rape Dryope (believe this is the only girl he rapes) by turing into a snake and getting her pregnant...also you could say the muses are his children, but not the Amazon's.And sending humans to the underworld...you'll have to be more specific as you have the God of death, Thanatos, you sends souls to the underworld. Charon, who leads souls down the river to the underworld. The one myth where Hermes leads humans to the underworld. Or the pjo one where Ares sends them to the underworld.

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@justtrying1952 the God of death also I’m confused on what you mean at the top.

    • @justtrying1952
      @justtrying1952 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      @@bituinl I thought you were talking about the myths of Ares and Apollo and how the person mixed them up. But, then I realized you were talking about the portrayal of the characters in the story. The top I went over the myths, and how they are both portrayed poorly and insulting their original characters in this adaptation of them.

    • @SylvanasWindrunnersStrap
      @SylvanasWindrunnersStrap 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +224

      Yes! As a devotee of Ares and Aphrodite as a JOINT COUPLE that shit made me put the comic down for good, I couldn't stomach it, their love story is one of the best and incredibly feminist on it's own idk why she changed it :(
      (sidenote if anyone argues w this comment I can provide quotes from ancient texts abt ares' proto-feminism and his adoration of women in general)

  • @queenofmeme6068
    @queenofmeme6068 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3348

    I also was kind of upset that Rachel made it seem like persephone's hair was some important character thing and just dropped the ball by the 2nd season and it's not explained further about her (RADICALLY) different hairstyles in the later seasons. last big scene she's in has a gorgeous long hair style, next one is a pixie cut with no warning, and then back to long! if it's to show passage of time, there are better ways of doing that.

    • @joxiejoxie6457
      @joxiejoxie6457 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

      Thank you for saying this. I thought it was just me, but even her curl pattern changes from frame to frame without warning & it was such a missed opportunity.

    • @caitlinmccloud7431
      @caitlinmccloud7431  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +319

      @WarriorXena446 it was her “wrath eyes” it’s supposed to be her angry but after causing winter she just had them all the time and it was a meaningless visual in the end.

    • @kchanuwu6775
      @kchanuwu6775 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      You guys know you can hold onto wrath longer than"being mad". The eyes represented the wrath part of her being after she becomes conscious of it. The hair thing is like an anime addition like her hair grows alot when she uses her powers...
      So she cuts it alot.

    • @shiichan32
      @shiichan32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      hades looked different in each panel they all did

    • @Sam.michael.9144
      @Sam.michael.9144 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      That’s actually because she can kind of control her hair based off her emotions. But if it’s too strong then her hair goes out of control. But idk about her eyes

  • @irenictea218
    @irenictea218 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8193

    My reaction was ‘It’s over? Good riddance.’

    • @Kopiortys
      @Kopiortys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

      To all the fools

    • @shiichan32
      @shiichan32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      finally

    • @serenitysubs933
      @serenitysubs933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Um just don't read it? You're acting like you're the one slaving away making comics every week.

    • @wildfire9017
      @wildfire9017 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

      @@serenitysubs933bro it sucks stop the cap

    • @imfam0use
      @imfam0use 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      FR FINALLY DAWG 💀

  • @skipperdoodles3275
    @skipperdoodles3275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +844

    Her wrath eyes make her look mega-stoned.

    • @rilakkuma1640
      @rilakkuma1640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      LMAOOO THATS SO TRUE

    • @phrubz
      @phrubz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      PLZZZ 😭😭

    • @Christinavernon2382
      @Christinavernon2382 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It really does!

    • @becnimi
      @becnimi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      LMAOOO

  • @Me1ani3_Art
    @Me1ani3_Art 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4426

    I’m Greek and I have to say I hate what they did to persephone’s mother. When I first heard the story in history class I loved it. I saw it as a grown man taking a girl manipulating her and her mother is trying her best to protect her but no they made her into the bad guy here like I hate it😭
    Edit: another thing, I just realised is they call it “a feminist retailing” and it’s the furthest thing from that the original story is much more feminist than this thing
    It reminds me of how they tried to rewrite Frankenstein, the modern Prometheus into “a feminist retailing” as well and it ended up being extremely misogynistic (yes, I’m talking about poor things) when the original story was extremely feminist on its own Like bro, it was literally written by a woman😭

    • @kenyaaragon3944
      @kenyaaragon3944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +147

      People fr say the creator meant to do every problem in the movie as commentary/critique and say "depiction doesn't equal endorsement" but the director said himself they meant to put the novel (which was lowkey way more feminist than the movie) and turned it into a "woman without shame". Idk I just see it as the biggest example of white feminism/ choice feminism in media.

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Again. I mean there are different versions of the myth ya know? So I think there is no define answer. Also pretty things I think maybe you should try to watch it in a different perspective maybe read some stuff from different perspectives and or videos (because ik someone with a very interesting take on the story) it was a comment so. ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌

    • @h3ad_3mpty
      @h3ad_3mpty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@bituinl Can you give me links to the other versions? Like I genuinely want to know more 'cause i'm quite interested in olympian gods

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@h3ad_3mpty oh! Well I only know this guy th-cam.com/play/PL9QtT_u7JDM9_iuMdqup-BGac9e2-704I.html&si=3JSbwQRozv1f8-vm so I don’t have many other sources but I hope this helps more.

    • @drendraleigh4722
      @drendraleigh4722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +106

      Agreed wholeheartedly. At the time when daughters belong to fatger and can basically be sold off or gifted to be married Demeter's determination​ to protect her daughter was important. Myth has cultural and political context tied to it. Making Demeter a bad guy for the romance is the furtest thing from making a feminist retelling

  • @MrGoblin1000
    @MrGoblin1000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1583

    The problemly with modern tellings of the Story of Spring is that they focuses on Hades and Persephone as a romantic couple. But the original myth isn't really about them, it is about Demeter being forced to watch as the men in her life treat her daughter as a bargaining chip. It is a story that countless mothers had to live through across history.

    • @foureyesisafish7968
      @foureyesisafish7968 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      So fun fact that’s largely because Persephone started more as Queen of the Underworld, with the aspects from Story of Spring largely being later additions. Hades and Persephone are a power couple in Greek mythology and this just happens to be their origin.

    • @vincentknws
      @vincentknws 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Hades and persephone is an amazing couple in Greek mythology.

    • @_.hybrids._1680
      @_.hybrids._1680 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      You misinterpreted their story as well. Persephone is NOT a “sweet innocent flower girl.” She NEVER have been.
      According to the Hymn of Demeter, the oldest written telling of the story, Hades never even WANT to kidnap Persephone. The kidnapping was ordered by and planned by Zeus. Even Demeter never blames Hades, only ZEUS. The story goes out of its way to say that the only thing Hades has done is the pomegranate part, and even that is iffy because the only surviving written copy was destroyed at that part.

    • @pandapower3076
      @pandapower3076 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I know that media makes it look like it was just the males of the family doing it, but that not how it really went. Mothers and grandmothers were a major part of the betrothal process.

  • @Oce.V
    @Oce.V 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1078

    I hate how the comic was advertized as a sort of feminist retelling when it's fuking not it's almost like a love letter to misogyny:
    - Glamorization of innocence and naivety and thus objectifying Persephone because of it. Because she's so unaware of how attractive and "sexy" she was (which was kind of the message I got when we saw Hades's POV and even Hares). Quite litterally the embodiment of born sexy yesterday.
    - Slutshaming characters like Minthe, Aphrodite mainly.
    - Putting women against each others for petty reasons like how Aphrodite got mad one of the three gods, frogot who, said Persephone was prettier than her (I know it's like an acutal thing that in the myth Aphrodite doesn't like being called second prettier to someone but I mean c'mon she's beefing with a 19y old and best thing to do to get back at the person who didn't do anything is to get her wasted).
    - Characters focusing their blame on the wrong person, or just yk the author putting most of the things on poor Demeter who was literally looking out for her child who was barely and adult and had very valid reasons for her to no want to marry a man who was to be in his 40's (He's like 2000y old but most theorize he'd be there).
    - Romantisation of grooming because a relationship between a 19y old and a 40y old is gonna be a huge power dynamic and imbalance.
    - Making most of the female characters fight over a man.
    - Very poor handeling of heavy topics like the SA of Persephone now I'm not saying the depiction of it when it happen wasn't clever it was actually beautifully sad. However it's how it was handled afterwards that bugs me, yes people can feel shame after such a traumatic experience and thus is why they wouldn't want to talk about it. But it confuses me why Eros ( whomst fucking turned into a background character ) didn't tell anybody or even Artemis because we saw many times Persephone trying to subtly bring up the subject but everytime the plot was like nu-uh. And the end of it being like "you're gonna tell everything because of magic or whatever" just felt so rushed. Also it bug me that Persephone just kinda became dick-obsessed while she was stuck in the mortal realm ? Like it felt so sudden and at first I wondered if her trauma cause her to be hypersexual but it didn't feel like it was the case here. I also doubt Rachel would actually give that kind of debts to Persephone plus she already slut shames characters who have a sexuality because they want to so imagine how poorly handled it could've been if it was hypersexuality.
    I think that's most of what I could remember from the comic which I haven't read after the trial because I was so over it back then

    • @portobeIIa
      @portobeIIa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      considering how persephone is 18 years of age, so like akin to a mortal in terms of knowledge, surrounded by these immortal gods that have been around for eons.... oh and just to make it all worse, she knows nothing of the immortal world, because PLOT, so she needs things constantly explained to her, tehee!
      so... it's not just infantilization, she's an actual for real Born Sexy Yesterday character.
      the fact that a Born Sexy Yesterday (aka the most anti feminism bs you could ever put in your story) was the choice on a FeMiNIsT rETeLLinG is beyond hysterical. like wow. If that's Rachels feminism, imagine if she was a mysogynist!

    • @seraphim108
      @seraphim108 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I do kinda like how aphrodite got jealous of persephone, simply because it's really funny to me how the goddess of love unknowingly was the person who made two gods fall in love. That part of the story was also kind of captivating, but yeah, there could've been some better way to handle it that mightve been more akin to the original aphrodite.

    • @ca-rrott
      @ca-rrott 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Literally it’s insufferable

  • @Sushidogbat
    @Sushidogbat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2284

    Ok I am mad of all the missing plotline. I was interested to see how Persphone deal with the aftermath of the assualt. Like you can't just brush off SA. Agree with minthe comment

    • @FroggyCinema
      @FroggyCinema 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Minthe was in the wrong tho. She treated him like shit and, they weren’t dating, they were just friends with benefits. It was hades who wanted a real relationship

    • @ren7684
      @ren7684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +200

      @@FroggyCinema And it was Hades who told her that he wanted that relationship with her when they decided to close off their relationship. They were not friends with benefits they were in an open relationship, I don’t think it’s accurate to call them friends at this point because it’s clear that they see each other as sexual partners solely. The only thing Minthe was wrong about was the way she went about it honestly but it’s understandable why she felt that way. Hades allows everyone to disrespect Minthe on the daily and literally does not defend her at all, everyone expects the worst out of her and they tell this to her face so she of course starts acting out if that’s what everyone acknowledges her for anyways. Not to mention the fact that he altered her entire life just to play sugar daddy and have her be completely reliant on him, he’s the one buying everything and he gave her a job without even asking her if she wanted it in the first place. He quite literally hired her just to have sex with her and once he saw Persephone and wanted to do the same thing with her he threw her out like trash. If I were Minthe I would be furious but I wouldn’t hit him, maybe sue him or hell I’d trash his company from the inside out but I wouldn’t put my hands on him.

    • @FroggyCinema
      @FroggyCinema 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ren7684 open relationships? Lmao 😂 ain’t no one should get respect for that. Dude hades don’t derseve that, feel bad for him if anything. His girlfriend can’t even stand up for herself in the world of GODS. Be the queen of hell, oh right can’t do that because I have to relate to women not wanting to commit because they are stuck in the cycle of trauma abuse(idk I think??) It’s not hades fault

    • @FroggyCinema
      @FroggyCinema 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ren7684 Hades is often treated poorly by Minthe. This toxic dynamic can be attributed to several factors:
      1. **Manipulative Tendencies**: Minthe exhibits manipulative behavior, using Hades' feelings for her to her advantage. She often oscillates between showing affection and disdain, keeping Hades in a state of emotional uncertainty. This manipulation is a classic sign of emotional abuse, where the abuser seeks to maintain control over their partner's emotions.
      2. **Insecurity and Jealousy**: Minthe's actions are driven by deep-seated insecurities and jealousy, particularly towards Persephone. Instead of addressing her insecurities in a healthy manner, Minthe projects them onto Hades, treating him poorly to mask her own feelings of inadequacy and fear of being replaced.
      3. **Power Dynamics**: Despite his immense power as a god, Hades is emotionally vulnerable when it comes to Minthe. She exploits this vulnerability, knowing that his feelings for her give her significant influence over him. This imbalance in their emotional power dynamic leads to Hades being subjected to disrespect and mistreatment.
      4. **Hades' Compassion**: Hades is portrayed as compassionate and empathetic, qualities that Minthe often takes for granted. His attempts to understand and support her are met with contempt and indifference, highlighting her lack of appreciation for his kindness and efforts to maintain their relationship.
      5. **Minthe's Self-Destructive Behavior**: Minthe's self-destructive tendencies contribute to her poor treatment of Hades. Her inability to address her own issues leads her to lash out at those around her, particularly Hades, who is closest to her. This destructive behavior exacerbates the toxicity in their relationship.
      In conclusion, Minthe's treatment of Hades in *Lore Olympus* is a complex interplay of manipulation, insecurity, and emotional abuse. Her inability to confront her own issues and her exploitation of Hades' feelings create a harmful dynamic, leaving Hades mistreated and undervalued despite his genuine care and affection for her.

    • @ren7684
      @ren7684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FroggyCinema Yeah see and that’s why you’re having such a hard time now, Poseidon is in an open relationship with his wife and they’re both happy and healthy with each other with children. I suppose they’re friends with benefits too right? And since you know everything about greek mythology clearly you should know that there’s multiple gods who are in open relationships should we not respect those either? They both didn’t deserve the treatment they got but it’s a cop out that one person who also impacted the relationship did not get any consequence or actual reflection on their actions. And also Minthe shouldn’t have to defend herself against gods she’s a nymph and they already look down on beings like her so even if she did stand up for herself they’d use that as ammunition to be meaner. Besides he’s a grown ass man not a fucking baby, he had no problem defending Persephone’s ass whenever he didn’t need to he could’ve easily defended her too. And you keep saying you have to relate to women but you really don’t, relate to the man child who uses Persephone as an ego booster to make himself feel like a big ole man and make his dick hard cause obviously he deserves all the time in the world to be coddled. Doesn’t matter that this man doesn’t take care of his kids or abuse his working staff, as long as he has Persephone there to stroke his ego with her “kindness” he’s a great guy.

  • @CynicalCopycat
    @CynicalCopycat 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +362

    They did my girl Demeter SO dirty. It is so incredibly ironic and infuriating how so many #girlpower "faminism" retellings often villainise her mother while painting her kidnapper in a favourable light.

    • @Iron_Stigmata
      @Iron_Stigmata 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      This. I want to see a retelling of the story but with Demeter as the primary protagonist.

  • @sophiemichel8045
    @sophiemichel8045 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +419

    The artstyle carried the webtoon, let’s be honest. It may not be your preference, but the colour scheme and how everything was so cutesy and pretty with some nice contrast when darker things happened helped tremendously to keep this afloat

    • @myst6387
      @myst6387 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The art style was the only reason I read that webtoon

  • @stardust948.
    @stardust948. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +323

    Cursed Princess Club was amazing! Wish it was more popular.

    • @lototheflo9640
      @lototheflo9640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Is it over??? I need to finish it. I loved cpc!!

    • @greenstarlover1
      @greenstarlover1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Can I have a summary? I'm curious about the premise.

    • @rottenkittenparvo
      @rottenkittenparvo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i dropped it long ago, what happened? how it ended?

    • @barfslut
      @barfslut 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Cpc is one of my favorite webtoons ever and the ending was just perfect 💗 MUST READ!!

    • @rottenkittenparvo
      @rottenkittenparvo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@barfslut did Gwen end up with Frederick?

  • @mofthemoth5755
    @mofthemoth5755 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +399

    i didnt even process that they changed demeter creating winter to persephone creating winter and much of a wasted opportunity that is. Imagine how impactful it would have been if all the times Demeter was ignored it wasintentionally written that way and if it was something the readers could go back and see the setup and be like "Oh wow! I never noticed how ignored she was! In hindsight her going apeshit makes sense!". Imagine if Demeter got consumed by grief and sorrow which was amplified by her fertility powers and she got stuck in a slumber (kind of like how its shown Persephone did in episode 129) while surrounded by walls of ice and other stuff. Imagine like the tension of the other gods being like "shit. somethings happening in the mortal realm. What the fuck. I've never seen something like this before" or maybe theres an influx of souls in the underworld. I think itd be cool if it was introduced because a character accuses Hades of doing it and that's how Persephone and Hades find out about how bad it's going in the mortal realm. I'm just imagining what a good cliff hanger it'd be if after a few episodes of the characters investigating different gods and trying to find a cause, there was a cliff hanger that ended with "There's only one person left. Demeter" AND THEN THE READERS (who. supposedly dont know basic greek mythology/hj) COULD BE LIKE "OHHHHHHHHH THAT'S WHY SHE HASNT SHOWN UP IN 10 EPISODES". And then the finale or like final arc could be Persephone trying to reach demeter.
    Maybe like, in the snow, there's different obstacles and challenges that are supposed to mirror interactions or fights they've had in the past and Persephone can reflect on them and it can hint to the readers Persephone's at the center of Demeter's grief. Maybe as they keep going, characters that were travelling with them can't follow anymore because it's too hard or they get blocked off and even Hades himself gets blocked off eventually the closer they get to Demeter's body and Persephone's the only one left who can reach her and they have a heart to heart and Persephone through the obstacles and self reflection realises how isolated her mother's been feeling and idk instead of the therapy episode, we get this. They both open up and apologise to eachother and maybe Demeter opens more on her past trauma and how that affected her and reveals she's the secret fertility goddess and she did everything she did (even wrong things sometimes) because she was terrified of people finding out persephone's true power and abusing it. And the two reconcile and create spring and boom, the arrangement in the og myth happens. Also ideally, they discuss and acknowledge how co dependent hades and persephone are and try to work on and the finale ends with Persephone saying bye to hades and that she'll visit or send letters as she heads off to the mortal realm so her and her mom can make their verison of spring TOGETHER. idk. sorry for the mild rewrite. This is still flawed but the wasted potential is killing me

    • @teetheminx5096
      @teetheminx5096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Omg yes, all of this. This was literally my headcanon too in regards to Demeter starting winter. What a wasted opportunity

    • @kimyugioh
      @kimyugioh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      im gonna pretend this is canon and block out rachel's version lol.

    • @thxwanderer
      @thxwanderer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      This is why I absolutely love the video game Hades. Because they did Demeter so, so well!!! Her grief over losing her daughter is palpable and as you learn more of the story, you realize why it’s constantly snowing when you reach the surface.

  • @roseystudio10
    @roseystudio10 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1238

    The sucky part is looking back and recognizing this Mary Sue-esc personality given to her, she had a point where she was a little interesting, but then...
    Also, to me, her SA ended up being irrelevant a lot of the time and with LITTLE agency, and begins to feel more like either as a stepping stone for her and Hades' relationship, or a plot point to make her character more interesting for her lacking a lot as a character. It sucks because I waited SO LONG to see her speak up and tell her story despite the odds, I sincerely thought she was going to have a moment of bravery and coming forward despite it...and hopefully have other potential victims of Apollo come forward. But NOPE, have the r**ist come forward about it, because that way she wins, everyone wins, right? But that NOT what happens in real time, abusers don't just come forward like that on this kind of act. Also dude gets a slap on the wrist in the end after EVERYTHING, so...what kind of message is taught here...?
    Overall, it could have been something meaningful, until it got drowned in the fluff and romance, a plot point like this can be used for romances, but don't turn it into whatever Lore Olympus did here, do better if you are a writer planning to put SA in.

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      True. That’s not how trauma works exactly. Based on the things I read about it really affects the life of the person. They either become hyper sexual or avoid it A LOT I don’t know if this happens when they are young or something but I know that’s a thing. Also I’m pretty sure Apollo didn’t do that in any of the versions I’ve read and listened about? Or maybe I’m wrong or whatever. I do know in one version Zeus disguise himself as hades and got persephone pregnant? So that’s whack.

    • @Aros4
      @Aros4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Its incredibly frustrating how many good concepts Rachel had going on and how she decided to just completely swipe them under the rug. Like there are so many character dynamics that were so interesting obviously Persephone and Apollo and how this started like a genuinely touching story about a girl working through her trauma and finding justice. Theres Hades and Minthe who were really toxic to each other and how this could’ve been a great opportunity to talk about trauma-bonding. Minthe and Perse both being women trying to find themselves in a world where theya re actively seen as nothing more than eye candy, I thought they could’ve been really good friends if they just didn’t make Hades the center of the Universe. It could’ve been a great story about healing, self-love, and redemption but instead they did- all that i guess

    • @Thane3999
      @Thane3999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does it matter if it is realistic or not?

    • @Thane3999
      @Thane3999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Aros4So you want to turn romance series about Greek Gods....into readers therapy session? Like Lore Olympus isn't good, but I don't think this one is inherently either

    • @littlemrsmods7998
      @littlemrsmods7998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I am SO sick of SA being treated as an inconvenience or a stepping stone in media

  • @rosiv9617
    @rosiv9617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    This story derailed the original tale about about a powerful mother and daughter bond and instead retold to be about an oversexualized wattpad protagonist getting taken advantage of by an old man :/
    I mean why does Persephone ALWAYS have to be the center of attention in every frame? Her clothes always tight, skimpy, or low cut....the constant shots of her body, the demonization of "manly" feelings such as wrath and jealousy, anything negative. Persephone is above all of that. Persephone can basically do no wrong.
    Any time a woman gains the slightest bit of independence and agency, it is quickly added it wouldn't be possible without a man. Or she's villainized.
    It's sickening how this narrative pushes a sexist ideal of women. It really is no better than most manga/anime...if not worse
    Rachel is still battling the internalized mysoginy that was perpetuated in our middle school/wattpad era.

    • @doodlefawn4742
      @doodlefawn4742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      From what I remember Persephone according to Rachel is supposed to be "unknowingly/unintentionally sexy" at all times which that with her naive personality is yikes

    • @anonview
      @anonview หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm on Wattpad right now, and I've read better Greek myth retellings there. Not just the Percy Jackson kind, but really good myth-based or myth-inspired retellings from talented authors. It's a little sad that they aren't getting as much deserved attention as whatever this is.

  • @PhreakOutBigTime
    @PhreakOutBigTime 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    watching this with no knowledge is wild because the images are in chronological order but the style, the anatomy, and persephone's appearance is different every time

    • @brownelia
      @brownelia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I swear to god I haven't read a single page of this comic but every time I watch a video I am EXTREMELY confused, like, sure, I'm all for characters changing outfits and looks in general, but it seems kinda disorienting here??

    • @mrr___
      @mrr___ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The facial structures are FOREVER CHANGING. The only reason we know who was who is because of the colors and even the colors didn't feel right

  • @livvymaemurray9080
    @livvymaemurray9080 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +556

    It also had really weird pacing

  • @mithenerd
    @mithenerd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    at the end it just feels like they slapped a bunch of therapy terms in a sentence and said 'good enough'

  • @kyleman0122
    @kyleman0122 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +231

    I cracked up so much when I saw a person posting the thumbnail of this vid on twitter and someone qrted it with the picture of WWII soldiers reading newspapers with "Hitler is dead" at the front page😭

    • @ladysuperherolove
      @ladysuperherolove 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      kind of a shitty joke to compare the Holocaust to a bad webtoon tbh. And beyond being shitty, people comparing Hitler and the Holocaust to everything they don't like is so overdone it's just unfunny. Godwins law etc.

    • @oops_i_did_it_again4383
      @oops_i_did_it_again4383 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

      ​@@ladysuperherolovetotally understand your perspective but I don't think that was the connection this person was making.

    • @hera9668
      @hera9668 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@ladysuperherolove it was very funny actually

    • @jellytunes
      @jellytunes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@hera9668based

  • @lunarwvrld911
    @lunarwvrld911 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    Crazy how Lore Olympus was one of my first webtoons ever and as I grew older I realized how weird some things are

    • @Thicc_jesus_forever
      @Thicc_jesus_forever 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Webtoon is a site used by minors, the reason why I left it. In addition, unfortunately well-written comics with good art are ignored and eliminated by their authors because they do not generate enough attention and earnings.

  • @instinctfan23
    @instinctfan23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    Am I allowed to say that the Supergiant game HADES has a better showcase of Persephone's and Hade's relationship then Lore Olympus?

    • @judith9059
      @judith9059 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      YES!! I love Supergiant’s portrayal of them so much

    • @ShyShy_999
      @ShyShy_999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Better portrayal of Demeter to boot!!

    • @instinctfan23
      @instinctfan23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@ShyShy_999 Of literally any of the gods honestly, but since the video's focused on the relationship between Hades and Persephone I mentioned them

    • @Murmarine
      @Murmarine 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hades is just better. Period.

    • @foureyesisafish7968
      @foureyesisafish7968 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hades and its sequel are some of the best depictions of Greek Mythology out there.

  • @galaxy_whizard
    @galaxy_whizard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    This comic is what made me realize that just because someone can make pretty art, doesn't mean they can write a good story...

    • @galaxy_whizard
      @galaxy_whizard 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But yeah, I stopped just after the trial because of how ridiculous everything was

  • @roserainier5917
    @roserainier5917 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Honestly the more I learn about Ancient Greek history and society the more I dislike modern “feminist” retellings of the Hades and Persephone myth. They all seem to miss how in Anciet Greece women had no say (on average) who their husbands would be and when they married they were often separated from their family and could be sent to different cities never to see their mothers/sisters/friends again. Demeter and Persephone isn’t a story of a mother preventing true love, it’s a story of a mother and daughter getting to stay family even after the daughter’s marriage- something that wasn’t possible for many real Ancient Greek women. It was a tale to give women hope. And Hades and Persephone’s marriage likewise was faithful and gave Persephone a lot of power (becoming a respected queen) because again it was supposed to give women hope.

  • @meakimon
    @meakimon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

    Thank you. I never got far into this comic. It's nice to hear news of it's ending.
    Rachel seems to me, like an illustrator who wants to do comics. But doesn't look up references on how to get better as she works on it.
    Because I'm an artist that does comic, but falls into the "I'm just chaining together illustrations with speech bubbles." That might be one reason to why the fight scenes were so stilted.
    Rachel could have had the gods fight with who can dress the sickest and have the best poses. 😂

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Woah do you have somewhere you post your comics? Also a fashion contest sounds awesome but for different categories since ya know fashion has different categories and one for just fashion in general.

    • @meakimon
      @meakimon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@bituinl it's really not that good of a comic, but I thank you for asking. It's called shareen unleashed, and it's on my own website so I also have other lore stuff there.
      As for the fashion fighting I proposed, it was sort of meant tongue in cheek. Lore Olympus is over so the joke was pretty flat. The fighting would probably be like, how confident you are in your outfit and poses and it could translate to power levels. I really didn't think too hard on it, sorry. XD

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@meakimon wait. Link please?
      Also HONESTLY I don’t think hard while reading comments most of the time either so it could be a me thing. Or I was so excited about the idea I didn’t even notice. Also tbh I didn’t finish reading it bc I got lazy and honestly started reading other stuff ToT I wanted to wait for the chapters then I could binge but apparently I shouldn’t do that.

    • @meakimon
      @meakimon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bituinl sorry, I don't think we're allowed to post links in TH-cam comments?
      If you are curious, you can pop "shareen unleashed aora galaxy" should give you the weebly link. If you click on it, you'll come to my website. Link to the comic is in the navigation menu.
      Again, the comic is nothing to really get excited for, but thank you for your interest!^^

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@meakimon idk about you but I sent a link just fine sometimes if that’s what you’re wondering. So next time you need or want to send a link you can? maybe? Idk 🥲 either way thank you! I’ll be sure to read it. Also definitely take pride in your work. Making a comic is a great accomplishment! You’re doing something and that’s already awesome.

  • @FallisLife
    @FallisLife 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Its suprising how many "feminist" stories take so much autonomy away from the female protagonist. They either make them so powerful that they have no character growth, or they make them rely on men or a love interest to be a cool and strong woman. Im not against love interests in stories but this is just ridiculous. Is it just me or did the ancient greeks have better "feminist" myths than what we have now? They werent much better than us but at least their female characters in myths had more independence.

    • @FireAlder2005
      @FireAlder2005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The true irony. Euripides, my friend, we salute you giving women Character

    • @DocMarsTalesToAmaze
      @DocMarsTalesToAmaze 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FireAlder2005 it is quite surprising how relevant his plays are

  • @Smoothïllustrated
    @Smoothïllustrated 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +260

    I think I stopped reading After the wedding ? as much as I love the start of this series i really Loved the build up of characters and what at first felt like a slow burn romance with Hades And Persephone’s
    But then I realized No They are speedrunning Everything NOW!!! Cut to the wedding !?! and all the side characters Gets forgotten. And every nice sandcastle they sat up gets knocked down immediately.
    I guess im just a little bitter, this actually got so popular for what was only set-up to a good story. And after all these years is like Rachel and her editors mocked us for giving a hoot about this nice sandcastle they started on!!!

    • @caitlinmccloud7431
      @caitlinmccloud7431  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      I can’t even with how the last chapter just jumped head first to the finish line and left a lot of questions unanswered.

    • @Smoothïllustrated
      @Smoothïllustrated 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@caitlinmccloud7431 I can understand the stress keeping deadlines by Demands but Slacking on the art, story and how to end it should not be happening with a popular Webtoon that got its own Book release…
      Great Vid btw 👍✨People can just listen to This and wouldn’t really Miss anything from LO

    • @mangachick27
      @mangachick27 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Post "proposal" everything became a speed run! I will never get over Persephone ghosting Hades right after the wedding because she decided to keep Dionysus and how that all played out. That was literally such a huge trauma for Hades and they have basically half a conversation about it and everything is forgiven and Persephone gets no consequences and really changes no behaviors and now she's newly 30, married, with a baby now too!!!

    • @Emma-gk3kn
      @Emma-gk3kn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I agree on the side characters being forgotten. Like Aphrodite being depicted as mighty, willing to do anything for her family and hot-headed doesnt do anything about her kid and his GF going missing ? Poseidon could but removed completely and it wouldnt change a thing, same with Hestia who ended up having very little significance, and Athena, and even Hecate in the end of the series whose sole job is being some kind of event planner and/or secretary (that's a shame because she was so cool ! I still remember that scene when she wakes up and starts on her tapestry!)

  • @No-ci7he
    @No-ci7he 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I’m really hung up on the “reveal” of Apollo being Zeus’ son- like of course he is??? It’s a well-known fact that he is Zeus’ son. There’s a whole myth about his and Artemis’ birth, and how many hoops Hera made Leto jump through to give birth to them BECAUSE she was upset at her husband’s infidelity. Why would that be treated like something shocking??

    • @cosmok-1367
      @cosmok-1367 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Because Rachel relied on the fact the people who read her comic knew nothing about Greek Mythology so she could use that to change things around and make plot twists despite it never happening in the actual myths.

  • @sarb05
    @sarb05 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    I remember I started reading this when it started out and was very deep in when I stopped coz it just felt like the mc was completely different from the begining in a bad way

  • @TheArtGremlin
    @TheArtGremlin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Romance webtoons can be good, but if you’re trying to juggle too many plotlines and other realtionships and loose sight of what was actually compelling ruins the story
    Edit: also I thought it was weird how they kept changing Persephones body shape, from a curvy girl to skinny to skinny with big boobs back to curvy and back to skinny with big boobs it really threw me off

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait? Actually? Also what are some of your favorite romance webtoons?

    • @TheArtGremlin
      @TheArtGremlin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bituinl Ooo I personally recommend of Swamp and Sea currently, seasons 1 and 2 are a pretty good slow burn story, s3 is just starting out and so far I’m not liking it as much as the previous 2 but I’ll probably change my mind once it’s fleshed out fully. It’s my personal favorite but it won’t be for everyone yknow?

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheArtGremlin owe I saw that but I only saw the picture on webtoon, but I’ll definitely read it!
      Also if you want some other good romance on webtoon I recommend I Thought It Was a Common Isekai Story (I’m pretty sure it’s named different on webtoon but I’m not 100% sure so I only have this title) warning it’s stressful but it’s really good imo.
      Oh but my all time favorite is Another Typical Fantasy Romance if you also haven’t read because I feel like you’d really really like this one. I’d say it’s a number one for a healthy romance, most healthy one I’ve ever seen. Anyways thanks for the recommendation I’m gonna read it now 🫡

    • @aviedunn8909
      @aviedunn8909 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      fr I hated how much persephone's body shape kept changing and how every outfit was just like boom tiddies in your face

  • @lulufan100
    @lulufan100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +448

    I stopped reading after Demeter (I think?) trapped Hades in a bell jar when Persephone went to visit. I'm glad I did. I stopped liking Persephone as a character during the trial because it felt like she was trying to say what she did wasn't bad. I didn't think that made sense because she tried so hard to hide it AND she tried to help lost souls on the shore when she went to the underworld. I wish she would have come clean because unless those mortals were plotting like, world domination or mass carnage or something, she went way too far. There would have been a moment where Demeter pushed her to feign innocence as she had been before, showing the toxic side of her love and Persephone setting boundaries. They could also bring up other acts of wrath to highlight a double standard. The wrath thing made no sense because everyone feels that way sometimes and I doubt it came into being once Eris was born. That gift does not in any way excuse Persephone for doing what she did or Demeter for hiding it. I also don't like the time skip because everyone supposedly developed while we weren't looking. I would like to have seen Persephone grow and change instead of, look she's 30 now. She just became ruder and more set in the mindset that she did nothing wrong. I also hated the wrath eyes. They were cool to see when she would stand up for herself in the earlier chapters but now it just feels like her new default is jerk. The relationship with Demeter also upsets me because they could have worked through their pain together. Persephone was naive and Demeter was overbearing but they could have worked on fixing those issues in TEN YEARS. I'm sure it could have taken longer, but not even a little bit? It's like Rachel wanted a time skip but also didn't. I did initially like the relationship between Hades and Persephone but it started to feel surface level. I wanted them both to have a healthy relationship but I'm not sure thats what they ended up getting. The bonding over where they came from was supposed to strengthen their relationship but it didn't do anything in my eyes. Giving characters trauma doesn't make them good people, and while I feel awful for them both, they aren't worth rooting for. I'm not saying they should work through trauma in isolation, they could definitely do couples therapy. They could go alone with the intent of being better partners, too. They just don't make progress in a healthy way, they just feel more and more attracted to the idea of being together. I remember struggling to think of ways Hades loved Persephone from the start. I ended up thinking he just thinks she's hot and doesn't hit him so it must be better. With Minthe, I will say she deserved to lose the relationship and be talked about but not the rest of what happened. She was abusive and she needed to get a taste of her own behavior. It doesn't matter how little you think of yourself, it doesn't excuse regularly treating your partner like garbage. I didn't mind seeing her grow when she was on earth and I was glad she got away from her awful friends. The girl that was having an affair with Zeus was awful and she deserved worse than Minthe but last I saw, she had a kid with a human king and was doing just fine. Thanatos also ended up fine, too, and even if he isn't as bad as the other girl, he still deserved something. I'm disappointed in how the series ended up. Being based on myth doesn't mean you have to keep all of the main bits the same. The age gap is a huge issue people complain about so they could have made one of them older or younger. I mean, she changed the family dynamics to avoid incest and added Apollo's.. actions. I don't like media that tries to be feminist retellings by just making every female character a girl boss. The supposedly all powerful fertility goddesses literally need a man, what message is THAT sending? It could have been used to talk about generational trauma and overcoming old patterns, like how kids these days react with horror when they hear how their mothers or grandmothers were forced into marriages. It had such potential, and I remember being excited to see how the very messed up source material would be altered to today's standards. I don't doubt that Rachel faced a lot of pressure because of how popular the got, so I'm not surprised she dropped the ball in places. It will always be popular to hate on popular things, whether it's deserved or not, so I will give her props for keeping it going and ending it kind of. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. There are other, way better webtoons out there like Sweet Home, Melvina's Therapy, Ghost Teller, etc, that I definitely recommend

    • @franciscorui
      @franciscorui 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      To go with one point of your ramble - specifically persephone's action - ones intent can ultimately mean nothing in comparison to their actions. Sometime you majorly fuck up, and you have to live with it. You don't get instantly forgiven when you meant well kf what happened was to great. You have to walk with the sins in your back. I think if the story had gone with that it would've been better.

    • @Daniela598
      @Daniela598 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Melvina's therapy is AMAZING, I'm glad you mentioned it at the end, definitely recommend it to those looking for a good horror story. Also, I agree with what you said about lore olympus, it could've been a decent retelling but in the end it's almost as if the author lost all interest in the plot and lost the general idea of what it was supposed to be. If you ask me, reading it felt like putting together bits and pieces of different, unrelated stories to make it seem like it was going somewhere but then it would take a completely different direction entirely forgeting those secondary lines of the story.

    • @ditzydoll47
      @ditzydoll47 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If you read just one chapter later you would’ve read the worst proposal of all time

    • @CureSmileful
      @CureSmileful 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Great comment! I love that you criticised the story, but also have compassion for the author.

    • @Preppybabiess
      @Preppybabiess 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ....

  • @kingofthemusicscene
    @kingofthemusicscene 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    As a mythology nerd, I read 2 chapters of this webtoon and instantly got the ick. I don't think Rachel knows anything about the actual greek myths

    • @satanspizza-dq6xf
      @satanspizza-dq6xf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fr, she just took names from the myths, and nothing else

  • @kittymarch4203
    @kittymarch4203 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    WAR IS OVER

  • @growingsage
    @growingsage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    Honestly this comic sounds like it had a lot of good parts, but did not mesh in a cohesive way. This could have been a comic that addresses generational trauma and how that affected everyones relationships with each other. It just sound slike she started off with a good plot thread, but drops it halfway for a different plot thread irrelevant to whats happening now.

    • @MsAnubisia
      @MsAnubisia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's just the plot of the Hades game tbh

  • @redlikeroses1062
    @redlikeroses1062 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I always was creeped out by the age gap. 19-2000?! Like what does Hades really have in common with a 19 yr old sheltered girl? Also she was infantilized AND sexualized so badly and it was super uncomfortable.

    • @satanspizza-dq6xf
      @satanspizza-dq6xf หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly! Like literally, she's like a toddler for him when we look at the age gap.

  • @emmalijewski8302
    @emmalijewski8302 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    one of the things that mad me mad about the ending was that Hera and Zeus got divorced because they could never because Hera is the goddess of marriage and swore on the river styx to stay by Zeus's side

    • @doodlefawn4742
      @doodlefawn4742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yep, then she got married to the nymph Echo after one (1) scene where they actually connect and we see them kiss from like 20 miles away. So she did an adultery as well. I have no doubt this was cause people were like wow Hera is kinda racist towards nymphs, like with how she called Minthe a mudsucker and trash.

  • @Steaaa
    @Steaaa 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Something irks me is that Lore Olympus turned Demeter into an evil controlling mother. Even if in the original myth Demeter is worried about her daughter because she was kidnapped by a god who conspired with his brother for that.
    And how some point out Hymn of Demeter, was most likely a story to comfort mothers who lost their daughters due to arranged marriage and how women in that time had no rights to refuse due to being treated like an object.
    And yeah, the hymn of Demeter was also a way to tell how the seasons were made

  • @antagonizingprotagonist8721
    @antagonizingprotagonist8721 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Finally this mid "romance" will be off the top spot and other, better works can shine. I'm so tired of seeing it at n.o 1 every dang week

  • @I_draw_alot
    @I_draw_alot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    I have no clue why I read it for so long, it’s like a drug, you know it’s terrible but at the same time it’s addicting

  • @belliepuff
    @belliepuff 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    minthe and demeter were constantly hated on but they were lowk the best characters

  • @3_2_7_5
    @3_2_7_5 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I started webtoon for Cursed Princess Club too! So sad its ending :')

  • @demeedee3247
    @demeedee3247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    5:30 thank god I wasn't the only one who got absolutely icked when we found out Persephone was gifted wrath by Eris. I was so confused and let down because wrath is normal it's natural mostly with Persephone she's supposed to this goddess that can be really cruel and wrathful when she needs to be and we find out not only was her killing people an accident but her wrath something that people normally have in them was gifted to her?? I was so disappointed like it feels like Rachel just stripped something that was a very natural characteristic of Persephone. She can be sweet sure but that doesn't mean she can't also be someone who can be completely cruel, she needs that part of her because that's always been Persephone. But no she gotta be this sweet lady who can do no crime and can't even manage authentic anger because all her anger is probably also part of the wrath Eris gifted her.

  • @KaeGraves
    @KaeGraves 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

    i havent read the story, but this sounds like a bad disney channel plot tbh

    • @chloet9263
      @chloet9263 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It really was

    • @gomiartist1301
      @gomiartist1301 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😊

  • @fx3176
    @fx3176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    My gf at the time introduced meto this webtoon. I mostly read it cuz she said that hades reminded her of me.

    • @Q33Rwitch
      @Q33Rwitch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Sounds like you dodged a bullet

    • @fx3176
      @fx3176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

      @@Q33Rwitch u have no idea what happened hahahaha. My romance with her was so traumatic, my friends were traumatized for me

    • @Q33Rwitch
      @Q33Rwitch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      @@fx3176 dam, I’ll make sure to run the other way if someone mentions lore Olympus lol

    • @fx3176
      @fx3176 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Q33Rwitch definitely . Till now she's exploiting someone

    • @SkylarThompson-mu1qs
      @SkylarThompson-mu1qs 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@fx3176Ig she was Hades

  • @peckneckanimations
    @peckneckanimations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Blehhhh… I’m gonna go reread nevermore to cleanse myself

    • @OllieFollie
      @OllieFollie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Omg, a fellow Nevermore fan! That’s one of my favorite comics on WEBTOON. The story, dialogue, and art are all fantastic. 😍❤️💫

    • @peckneckanimations
      @peckneckanimations 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@OllieFollie FRR! I adore nevermore

    • @Tialovestea
      @Tialovestea 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Omg I love nevermore

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Some other good romance reads are Another Typical Fantasy Romance, A Way To Protect The Lovable You, Please Marry Me Again Husband!, and The Reason Why Raeliana Ended up at the Duke's Mansion if you haven’t read. I really like I Thought It Was a Common Isekai Story but that’s for a lot of stress and good romance, but so much stress.

    • @greenstarlover1
      @greenstarlover1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Someone recommended it to me a few months back, so I checked it out of curiosity. Less to say I binged in a couple of days.

  • @Pratt11
    @Pratt11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I remember just how popular this shit was back then, my girlfriend fell in love with it but I didn't really see an appeal so I just read my Monster and Punpun, Later on in a few months, she was like “Just give me your manga volumes, I'm not in that anymore” with a frustrated look on her face and I didn't know why, but now I know lmao

  • @GingieHonkHonk
    @GingieHonkHonk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Apparently getting Over with S Assault part of the Story 🗿

    • @bituinl
      @bituinl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah you can never get over it, but you can become more stable by getting help. This is well known knowledge but sadly the author either didn’t seem to do the indicator, or just didn’t do research which kind of sucks. It’s like when villain get redeemed. It’s not like they suddenly become a good person and or personalities change. They are still the same person but obviously doing less morally questionable things.

  • @endingwithali
    @endingwithali 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i am still SO CONFUSED about what a fertility goddess is and why everyone was losing their shit about persephone being one
    you at least explained it a little bit but still what

  • @samspotz8r8s
    @samspotz8r8s 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Minthe is still my favorite character. I had a so much fun following her!
    I never had any beef with LO, and following it happily up until the end, but my love of the series tapered off the when minthe’s plot line wrapped up

  • @wolfspade1646
    @wolfspade1646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Man kudos to yall getting this far in the story. I stopped after the court case LMAO. Can't believe it got so much worse after that. I'm SO disappointed they didn't continue building Minthe up after destroying her for the sake of a mary sue's comfort.

  • @victorianeechan
    @victorianeechan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm so glad someone else pointed out how shitty the treatment Mint got was in comments

  • @isabellechong7841
    @isabellechong7841 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Tbh the minthe thing also annoyed me bc it seems like the author went for a “nymphs are a somewhat exploited underclass compared to gods” angle in her backstory, but then we were still supposed to be like “whoopee” when she got turned into a plant lol

  • @sallow_slytherins
    @sallow_slytherins 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the way this was a self-insert comic is all i need to know

  • @Grumpyblues
    @Grumpyblues 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I read the first trade of Lore Olympus after my friends raved about it to me, and man was I disappointed. It read exactly like bad 000's era fanfiction and it looks like it never got any better.

  • @stitchgor3
    @stitchgor3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    It always bothered me when people in the comments HATED minute for ‘stealing hades’ LIKE WHAT?

    • @nalalalalala9946
      @nalalalalala9946 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The only thing that was ever stolen in that story was my precious time wasted while reading it

  • @HeyLeFay
    @HeyLeFay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was really hoping that the trial would’ve ended with Persephone being declared guilty, then making some dramatic display where she whips out a stolen pomegranate and eats it, becoming cursed to stay in the underworld but also now being out of Zeus’s jurisdiction. It would’ve been a way of her asserting her independence and choosing her own path away from what anyone else wanted for her. It would’ve been a cool climax!
    I even thought there was foreshadowing for it because in the chapter where Hades shows her the pomegranate, in the final shot of the tree, the fruit is no longer visible. The actual climax with Kronos was pretty disappointing, ngl

  • @aglaelmelendrez86
    @aglaelmelendrez86 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I’m bit sad to see the WEBTOON go. Because I saw potential in it’s growth.
    But the ending left me with more unanswered questions.
    Here is my list:
    1 -How did Daphne got free from her tree from hibernation.
    2- Like to see more Character development of Leto( Atriums & Apollo mother).
    3- when Persephone was punished. How was Poseidon’ realm affected. Also see more character development.
    4- see more of Daphne & Thanatos. Atriums & Hermes romance development. Where are their romance now. And where is their relationship going towards the future.

  • @cryptidsystem890
    @cryptidsystem890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    0:28 I LOVED the cursed princess club, if you want a really good webtoon read it

  • @FrancisFabricates
    @FrancisFabricates 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I know a fair few big webtoon authors and while I have so many issues with this story and its author for sure many of the bad decisions were pushed on them by webtoon. Their editors are terrible and they mostly just push people to make comics in what they think will sell best regardless of what the comic is actually about. I have a feeling some of that is why this is such an issue. But tbh yeah not shocked it went so downhill I don’t know anyone who continued to read it

  • @DanialTarki
    @DanialTarki 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    “It’s over! It’s finally over! We never have to hear about it, again!”
    -Boomstick, Goku Vs. Superman, 2013

  • @pathetic2399
    @pathetic2399 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I only know this story through video essays and I’m glad it’s ending

  • @oracleofthedead
    @oracleofthedead 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +590

    i honestly stopped supporting it when she got mad that a fan cosplayed as Minthe instead of Persephone which i wouldn't be surprised if it was some sort of self insert due to her reaction. just gave me off vibes in general which im glad i made that decision ;b

    • @BrightSunLady
      @BrightSunLady 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      Wait, Rachel fr reacted that way?

    • @CatRockk
      @CatRockk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      ​@@BrightSunLadyYeah she sure did, because Minthe is supposed to be this abusive horrible lady that you can't like.

    • @MadameOcean
      @MadameOcean 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      @@CatRockk she literally didn't. Someone cosplayed minthe, the caption was something like "fuck persephone she's a mary sue" and rachel's exact comments were, "I don't agree that Persephone is a Mary Sue. She's not for everyone, but the cosplay is nice"
      Not exactly getting ~mad~ at a cosplayer for cosplaying Minthe... I totally agree that Lore Olympus has a ton of flaws and Rachel is a flawed writer, but spreading misinformation and gossip like this is... lame, honestly.

    • @marieknep5567
      @marieknep5567 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@MadameOcean ​​⁠ Both of those comments are insanely passive aggressive though. The “Thanks.” And “The cosplay is nice” with the emojis is CLEARLY passive aggressive at LEAST. Calling someone’s hard work and love for the work of art “nice” is just incredibly condescending, especially with the (again) passive aggressive emojis thrown in. It’s clearly obvious when you read the comments that she was being rude and unprofessional.

    • @CatRockk
      @CatRockk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MadameOcean Lame? Gossip? That's quite literally what happened.

  • @naliniramsingh4404
    @naliniramsingh4404 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Cursed princess club was peak webtoon
    Literally the only reason I had the app

  • @Py-Py-Py
    @Py-Py-Py 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Rachel did Minthe and Demeter dirty.

  • @sodalit3
    @sodalit3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    i stopped reading lore olympus some time ago because leto really spooked me for some reason lol

  • @loonemist
    @loonemist 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Minthe, they could never make me hate you

  • @branna997
    @branna997 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have so many thoughts about the decline of LO, but I remember back while season 1 was coming out, Rachel was asked what other myths she might adapt in the world (as at that time, it seemed to be pretty centered around retelling Hades/Persephone). And I distinctly remember her saying “All of them” or something to that effect. At the time, I was like “Surely she means that she’ll finish the H/P story and then go on to tell others one by one, surely she wouldn’t try to tell EVERY GREEK MYTH IN A SINGLE STORY.” But with the benefit of hindsight, I think that really was her aim. It would explain a lot.

  • @anniei1
    @anniei1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i used to love this series so much, and then i cant remember what part i stopped at but i never picked it back up. i think it was somewhere after the trial too

  • @bumblebeeproductions1673
    @bumblebeeproductions1673 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    My reaction to finding out this webtoon ended was just “it ended? FINALLY”

  • @tayinabyss
    @tayinabyss 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This webtoon dissapointed me greatly towards the end, you can tell rachel set it up for another season or 2 but ended it either out of contractual obligation or laziness

  • @maggiefanning
    @maggiefanning หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Something that was majorly disappointing was the distance season 2 and 3 took from characters who made the comic so appealing and enthralling at the beginning. Eros, Aphrodite, Artemis, Ares, Hecate, etc., were characters whose roles in the story shaped Persephone and supported her, but they are all replaced for Hades’ storyline and the Underworld. She completely disregards her own friends and allies by having Hades’ form her entire identity. She IS the goddess of spring, but I guess that wasn’t interesting or girlbossy enough so her wrathful/Dread Queen persona took over her narrative. As a fellow sheltered homeschooler raised in the rural countryside, I loved Persephone’s backstory and watching her adapt to Olympian society, I found it very relatable. In the end, it felt like she had forsaken everything that made her who she was and had grown up to be in favor of what Hades wanted. Hades did not change for her, but she sure as hell changed for him. Hardly a romantic partnership.

  • @nierzh620
    @nierzh620 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    A small nitpick I wanted to add, even if it was less relevant compared to the other flaws of the series:
    Looking back, what makes Lore Olympus feel less mythology-accurate was how heteronormative the storytelling itself was. The author didn't really seem to explore the bisexuality of all the Greek gods that much, like maybe except for that scene where Hera and Echo kissed and presumably started dating after that. But other than that, it felt like all the gods and goddesses were pretty straight.
    Also, after a little more research on Apollo I realized that the version of him in the comic feels a little tame compared to the actual one.
    I won't info-dump too much, but from a documentary on him there were some things I heard:
    - He granted a woman with foresight, but she was cursed so that no one would ever believe her predictions (after he found out that she didn't love him back)
    - Apollo actually dated a man, this was Hyacinthus (where the flower gets its name) and Zephyrus (god of wind) killed Apollo's boyfriend because he also liked him and was jealous of their relationship
    - Apollo had a music contest against a mortal who claimed he was a better musician than the gods themselves. The condition was that the winner could do whatever they wanted with the loser. So Apollo strung the mortal up by the foot and skinned him alive.. (yikes)
    If Apollo was as unhinged in the comic as he is in the actual mythology, I bet we would have a completely different story... Point is I think a lot of the wrathful acts in the comic were mainly by Persephone, which is cool, but I think that emotion could be applied to just about the entire pantheon

  • @amberfox9543
    @amberfox9543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    They really hated Demeter, huh?

  • @kttz0
    @kttz0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i was just walking around at a locln bookshop and i unfortunetly found the phisical copy of lore olympus , i dont live in an enligsh speaking coutry so most books arent out (as in a translated copy) till waaaaay later on , i was actually shocked when i saw that they were almost sold out

  • @Toastcat890
    @Toastcat890 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I honestly thought she would grow into her role and be more assertive and more interesting later

  • @stitchgor3
    @stitchgor3 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It seemed so good at the start and then….yeah.

  • @xsaratoninx
    @xsaratoninx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A 2000 year old man WHO is also her uncle 😀

  • @Nova-dd1sg
    @Nova-dd1sg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To the people that questioned why they stay to see the webcomic end and regret all the time thrown at it- here's the best way I can explain it: It's like watching a train-wreck happen, you can't help but watch it and see how worse it gets until the commotion is over.

  • @Man-ej6uv
    @Man-ej6uv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    wow this comic is so dumb 😭 WHY IS THIS POPULAR

  • @indiatoluca
    @indiatoluca 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love Minthe. She is my favorite character and the world has been so unfair to her…

  • @sydt7104
    @sydt7104 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the comics.... the storyline..... they're... finally.... over

  • @amay304
    @amay304 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    I really could have done without the whole "dream jumping to find Kronos" thing. I didn't underor follow any of it. It was so uninteresting to read

  • @6randpa69
    @6randpa69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thank you for talking about Minthe and how much everyone hates her!!! I had to stop reading after that. I tried to explain that to a friend the other day and they got so defensive of the series omg

  • @sokkasinstincts8730
    @sokkasinstincts8730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember reading the comic as a teenager and stopping shortly after the whole SA part. I couldn't exactly describe why I was so put off by the direction of the comic, but you explained it perfectly.

  • @ashleywalton2758
    @ashleywalton2758 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Adored the series until their reunion, but the ending just felt so clumsy. The art, which was a huge part of why i loved it, was so fucked up at the end. And why was it written like a hallmark movie??? Its been 6 solid years, i know shes probably chomping at the bit to finish the thing but it does the comic a disservice overall. Lowkey debating if i wanna buy the last two books just because of those last chapters..

  • @leecha3444
    @leecha3444 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With how this rolled out, i really feel how Apollo was exposed is a heavy projection of some sort of experience. Though if it really were, i feel bad, but it's such a shower thought without weight.

  • @DesdemonaDistress
    @DesdemonaDistress 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Initially when i read the webtoon in 2020, i had felt alot of connection with the characters. As i kept reading, i dropped it. The plot was quickly slipping and things were just happening to happen. Persephone essentially begins to exist as sex appeal and not a lead character. All the other characters exist to kiss her ass or simply be a villain against her. Minthe deserved better.

  • @violetevergarden7872
    @violetevergarden7872 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I only kept reading it because of the fashion and Hera.

  • @Giga_HyperSpace
    @Giga_HyperSpace 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Cursed princess club is the goat

  • @dayzsaclark7543
    @dayzsaclark7543 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    1:17 Asdfghjkl There it is! The “Never apologize for being Sicilian” meme!! LETS GOOOO!! 🎉

  • @saltistasty
    @saltistasty 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Even as a kid reading this i recognised that Persephone started to be a completely separate being from who she was in the first few chapters like they could have just made the story be her maturing slowly but surely and learning more about herself and gaining more control of her life and possibly talking things out with her mom but noooo lets make her a raging sex icon/addict thats obsessed with grandpa death who is also obsessed with her and has been SINCE SHE WAS 19!!!! like even as a CHILD (yes i know dont ask) I SAW HOW UNHEALTHY THIS WAS AND HOW INCONSISTENT THE STORYLINE WAS honestly there's so much wasted potential for this story that it actually physically hurts :[[

  • @notamaniswear4815
    @notamaniswear4815 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah, I guess I kept on reading this story because I thought it was going to get better but I should have realized by the first episode that that was not going to be the case

  • @Zuzu1684
    @Zuzu1684 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    That’s why lore rekindled is so much better bro

  • @KirbyThePig
    @KirbyThePig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I downloaded webtoon to read Gremoryland after finding a physical copy of the first half in a Barnes and Nobel

  • @MyNameBeAmazing
    @MyNameBeAmazing 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Cursed Princess Club mention WOOOOOOO!!!!!! I love that series!!!

  • @MalevolentDivinity
    @MalevolentDivinity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Zagreus and Melinoe wondering what the hell's going on with this webtoon.

  • @victorian.1211
    @victorian.1211 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    With this comic was getting popular I thought abt reading it cuz of the art style but didn’t cuz I gotten confused of the time setting, like they’re wearing old fashion Greek clothing but had modern technology and clothes. So I didn’t bother to read it and im glad I did cuz what is happening in this story

  • @viesymanchita
    @viesymanchita 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for making this so I didn't waste my time reading it 🙏