Can you THRIVE on just ONE Sharpening Stone? Spyderco Medium
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Showing the real mishaps is one of the reasons your channel is so well regarded. Honestly don't know why you don't have 100,000 more subscribers.
Very happy with these sharpening videos.
1,000,000 subs and fricken sharks with lazers
It’s because he’s an edgy man from the upside down
Oh BTW, liked the desk 'studio' & a reminder ;
No matter how you sharpen a knife there will be plenty of folks saying you did it wrong.
Did it get sharp? That's what matters.
Every youtube video that quotes the late, great Cliff Stamp has earned an upvote from me.
Cliff Stamp = 🐐
Meu também!🇧🇷
A brick is all you need according to Cliff .. rest his soul .
miss that guy's videos big time
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Jamais esqueceremos Ckiff Stamp! 🇧🇷
A few years back I decided to basically reteach myself to hand sharpen completely ambidextrously (right, left, edge towards, edge away). It took time but as I became more and more proficient it really allowed me to perfect getting an even apex with a “flat” edge bevel, especially when reprofiling.
Now anytime someone is new to sharpening I always suggest or push for them to learn ambidextrously. The whole thing is already so difficult and foreign to majority of people that I figure why not learn fully ambidextrous because I wish I had from the jump. With all that said, I’ve really been enjoying watching you learn and improve your skills!
I found that starting this at the strop made things much more intuitive.
@@BrandonMeyer1641it’s funny you say that. When I switched to bass wood strops I decided to learn ambidextrously so I could see when the bevel was laying flat both ways. Which led to me wanting to learn sharpening ambidextrously.
So yes I completely agree and it’s also far more forgiving while getting the mechanics of it down and working out the awkwardness of it.
This is interesting.
I got into free hand sharpening before the internet and while i was in my early teens.
Nobody showed me how to do it, so i instantly did try to do it ambidextrously.
And have kept doing that.
I only realized that few others do that, from watching YT videos. 😁
(And i was over 40 when realizing that cutting fingernails ambidextrously with nail scissors isn't common either because people can't do that with their non dominant hand, and refuse to learn it.)
"Just be a little bit braver and don't be afraid."
Famous last words.
The spyderco medium stone is underrated. I used 80 grit silicon carbide to make one side coarse as well. Perfect double sided stone for larger blades.
Can you survive with just one stone? Yeah. But honestly, if I didn't have a coarse diamond (220-320) to do rough work with, I'd just throw the knife away. Trying to sharpen out lots of damage on stuff like s90v on just a Spyderco Medium would make me lose my mind. Even S30V that's been damaged is a bear. Or K390. Yeah, I love my Medium, I take it everywhere with me and use it to keep my knives sharp, but when it comes to fixing an edge, I pull out the coarse stones! Takes so much less time! But yea, you can make it with just the one if that's all you have! Also, I can't do it with the stone on a table. I hold my stones in my hand. That's what made hand sharpening work for me. Love your vids, guy!
I’ve found that a little mineral oil on the spyderco ceramics both as a lubricant and cleaner helps keep loading to a minimum
thanks for another fantastic video and love the focus on normal people realities when it comes to sharpening.
Your knife sharpening videos are super useful to me. I've been a fixed-angle sharpener for a long time, but just sharpened a Mora knife free-hand for a friend. Thanks mate! Cheers from North Carolina.
I ❤️ my spyderco ceramics. I had always heard that the spyderco medium was in the 800-1000 grit range. You should lap that med ceramic on one side with soapy water and wet/dry sandpaper. 220 then 400 grit. Even a cheap double sided diamond pocket stone would work. Gives you two different sharpening surfaces on one stone. I have my medium and ultra fine lapped on one side. Used with a dish soap and water solution, they leave a pretty good polish.
a spyderco medium ceramic and a strop is all that ive needed for the last 5 years. worksharps, whetstones, rods and abrasive plates are all collecting dust.
My knife life is changing ..I don't really know why but I'm losing interest on super steels..I like the relationship of using a knife and needing to hone or sharpen ..on most knives I use either a dc4 or a shapton orange..love medium grade steel 14c and the like..but for hard use true hard use stabing into the soil or batoning it's hard not to like aus 8.. alot of this has come from your channel
The only way from up is down, appreciating the simple satisfying parts are best 👍
I hear ya. I like being able to sharpen my knives in the field. Plus I never cared for how brittle many of the super steels are. When I'm out in the middle of nowhere thick boned game I prefer a good old carbon steel.
I can never return to AUS 8
The worst I can go to is Nitro V, which take a much better edge then AUS 8
Nitro V and 14c28n
Same. Exception is prior to deer season I’ll get my m390 knife sharpened and polished to a mirror edge, I can work through 5-6 deer without an issue. Anything else I’m fine with average steel and touching it up often.
Applying light pressure gives the best results for me. Less chance of a f up, more consistent angles, and finer scratch pattern. On diamond plates its almost a must, you otherwise damage the surface.
and more pressure will weaken the steel at the apex
Is that a Mario flower light by the computer?
If you do 10 passes on pasted strop with diamond compound you risk creating a Foil Burr. You can't feel it but it reduces edge durability. Science of Sharp has a great article about Strops with electron microscopy images. You can avoid Foil Burr by doing only a couple passes on pasted strop or use a hanging denim strop.
-Sorry to bother you, but English is not my native language and I don't quite understand the concept of "hanging denim strop". Are you referring to a natural Strop without any type of paste?-
EDIT: Don't worry, I have already found what type of strop you are referring to; The literal translation into my language didn't make sense to me, but now it does. I have always believed that those were much worse, I will study why that article says the opposite.
@@SHEagleYT If you look on the images it's clear which one has the better results. Edge trailing usually is bad at burr removal and a small remaining microburr remains on most most sharpening materials including all stones. The clean edge on trailing from the hanging denim is an exception, probably because it's softer and manages to slightly abrade the tip, breaking off the burr but not so much abrasion as to actually damage the tip. Hanging denim will also add a slight convexity to the edge but if you do it without any pressure this convexity is very small, less than a micron, and will not affect knife performance
Foil burr breaks or rolls if you pass it on wood. After that the edge stops shaving hair and cutting paper towels. It's still a usable edge for a knife but will not cut as well or last as long as if it were property structured. If you like pasted strop it's a good practice to check for sharpness before and after a few wood passes.
The articles on Science of Sharp are amazing. I do recommend you go and check them out yourself.
@@thiago.assumpcaodefinitely recommend his videos. But also of note, pasted strop after knocking the burr off and convexing the last new microns, the foil burr won't form. Of note, he uses very thin geometry on those straight razors so you may not foil burr a 30 degree or higher inclusive angle
@@mikafoxx2717 True. Foil is a common issue but it's not guaranteed. Same as broken carbides from diamond stones.
Thank you. I used to mostly use the 4 crock stick sharpeners but lately a lot more freehand on diamond and ceramic stones with much better luck. Makes me less hesitant to put my knives to harder use. Nice watching you improve. If only we can get to Alex’s skill😊.
Good job Pete!
IRON MAIDEN !!!
Is it sharp? HECK YEA!! That is all I care about! In my sharpening I have a 320 Stonewall use if the knife is really dull or chipped. Then I'll migrate to that Spyderco medium and stop there if it's just for my use! If I'm shopping for someone else, I usually go to the Spyderco fine just to make it look a little better, but I think I like the edge from the Spyderco medium the best!
Wow i love the FF7 backround music 🎶 ❤
I'd love if you added a shave test after your sharpenings....i am learning myself and while i can get a knife to cut paper pretty well, shaving is non-existent thus far(which is my goal)
Pratique, pratique...está logo ali!
I love my beavercraft strop. It's a workhorse for my carving knives
You can get a keen edge with a rough 400 grit stone, outdoors55 taught me a bunch of interesting things lately and he seems to think you can get the same edge with any stone, and the rougher it is, the fewer passes and the smaller the window for human error.
Seems like the knife police opened a new branch and are out on patrol 👮🏻♀️
I have tried a lot powder supersteels. Lastly I like 14c28n and Nitro V on my Civivi pocket knives. I also like AUS-10 on Coldsteel ones.
As I am a hobby sharpener, it is no problem for me to resharpen them. It's actually a pleasure for me 🙂
AEB-L, Nitro-V, and 14c28n are all the same type of steel, one where all the carbides dissolve in the heat treat so they're miniscule, smaller than powder metallurgy, so they can hold razor edges the best of them all, especially when run harder than normal, since they're also incredibly tough
Could you provide the information on your usb microscope please? Brand & model number or better yet, a link? Thanks in advance!
I have 1 Shun 400/1000 grit Whetstone & 1 large strop for home use and 1 Falkniven DC4 stone & 1 small strop for "in the field" use.
One trick I have is use a little water and you can see when the edge is flat by it pushing the water out from apex
I must say that is a sweet knife... I tasted it!
I make me barely chuckle. But seriously nice knife!
should of scoped it before and after the final strop...youll get better feedback that way..always check from operation to the next
Does Alex Dron really ever sell any of his knives? I can find a lot of pics but nothing's for sale.
more of a ‘message and see whats going’ situation. only part time IIRC
If you want to remove the permanent marker from the blade, all you need is a dry erase marker. You colour over the permanent marker with the dry erase marker, then flip it over and it erases both markers ( i saw it on a video).
Have you ever done an edge retention test on a high-vanadium-carbide steel sharpened with diamonds/cbn vs ceramic? Common wisdom is that if you sharpen high-VC steels with ceramics the edge does not last as long because the edge carbides are damaged or pulled out rather than sharpened, and it would be interesting to see if that holds up in your sharpening test, although I think a guided system would be better for that video to reduce variables of course.
Science of sharp shows this. Mostly, they poke out and don't get abraded. They're really well stuck into the steel matrix though. Exposing them without grinding into them, might help improve wear resistive on a working edge though
try the king diamond 1000 resin
The hell with the stone. Up the Irons!!!!
any chance of a link to the microscope please? I reckon I'm about where you are on the freehand journey. I'm enjoying the ride although when it really matters I go back to my guided system.
ooh its a pretty generic USB microscope, not even branded, plug and go type deal, was $40 or so
I can easily go with nothing but my Shapton Pro 1k if I had to.
Ever tried pulling the blade towards you? I find it more precise but what ever works for you works.
One diamond sharpening stone, one strop and one honing rod. All I need for the last 5y+.
If I had to have one sharpening stone it would be a DMT Duo sharp coarse and extra fine, in fact I've been using that exact stone for years, just finishing with some fine ceramic. My only problem with ceramic is that it gets loaded quickly and needs to be cleaned constantly.
Hey mate, have you tried cleaning them with an eraser? If you do it that way it’s only a 15 second job so it isn’t so annoying
@@deathbyastonishment7930 I have tried it and it definitely works but doesn't really work well. Barkeeper's Friend and a scrubby cleans it much more completely.
@@deathbyastonishment7930 I have and they definitely help but no where near as effective as Barkeeper's Friend. I love ceramic sharpening stones but in my experience unless they are very clean they are almost useless.
If i was only doing 1 stone it would be a 400ish grit diamod plate, and probably a strop with 1 micron diamond. Give or take.
The diamond will be a lot more versatile. And will give a nice agressive edge on whatever you sharpen
the answer is no...its a well known fact humanity struggled to survive as a species until we had multiple grit sharpening in the stone age.
I for one say a prayer of thanks to our prehistoric ancestors for their discovery of vitrified ceramics every day. It actually causes a fair bit of friction in our household, what me me missing my daughters clarinet recital due to needing to light all 700 candles. #knifeguyproblems
I’m wondering about the drum kit.
its my sons, hes a great drummer
I dig the super steels plenty (M390/204P mostly bc of my Microtechs), but I’ve been into knives long enough that I have some VG-10, 154CM, AUS-8, and differentially hardened A2 (60-61 HRC at the blade and 58/59 HRC at the spine). The former are really, really cool, but I love how stupid simple it is to sharpen the latter. And, since plenty have killer blade geometry, they keep functionally sharp for a while after dulling from shaving sharp.
I love what you do dude. Ty.
You mean the edge. Not the blade
Do I hear some baroque Bach tunes on your videos lately? 🤔🎶
when you said alex did a great video about the strop going over the edge with thicker leather did you mean alex garland or alex dron?
garland
I asked my girlfriend if I can thrive on one sharpening stone but she said I still need to get a job.
You need to improve the description of the video, adding a small summary of what we are going to see, as well as mentioning all the materials you are using, such as the microscope (optional), used stone, strop and strop pastes (optional links to an online store )
maybe
Still sad about cliff
Kuromaku 1000.
next week!
Tinker Bell music is annoying !!! Lol !!
No. it's an overpriced and limited. It's just sintered form of vitrified alumina ceramic. That is also just a rebranded and resold version of another companies abrasive, like everything else gimmick in chief SC sells. Doesn't cost nearly what they sell it for. save your money and get a real stone like a "1k" shapton pro. but maybe learn how to actually freehand first. it's not difficult, if you actually try and apply yourself for like... not very long. There are few new skills that are easier to acquire. Like we're not going to moon here. A child could learn to a high degree within weeks. Could you get by with just a 1k shapton pro? Ofc you could. But you're better off with 2, or even 3 stones. You know, like course, medium and fine. aka grinding/shaping, sharpening and finishing/polishing. Though the finishing could also be done with a strop. I would never say anyone NEEDs more than 4. 4 is the most you NEED to do literally anything you could ever do. From fixing something badly damaged or without an edge entirely to a razor sharp true mirror edge, even in 10v steel. You don't need more than 4 abrasives, max. So how many stones do I own? 30+
Wrong technique. Never bend your wrist. Always keep your wrist locked. He has no idea how to freehand sharpen so dont take his advice.
@@thaknobodi hes also not bending his wrist that much to begin with
Somehow his knife got sharp with such horrible form and advice.
I like Pete, his freehand skills tbh are more like 1-2/10. Most is the pocket knife super steel community on YT are ALL terrible at free hand sharpening. If u really want to learn or understand the art you'll find quality knowledge in the artisan Japanese culinary knife community. I'm about a 4/10 on a whetstone & I've been sharpening for 3 years.
If only OP could share all his knowledge with the world. He (They?) has so much to teach us.
Yet somehow the knife turned out razor sharp
I WISH I COULD AFFORD A DIMOND STONE BUT MAYBE ONE DAY
You're loud.
YEAH ITS EASY TO LEARN HOW TO SHARPEN IF YOU HOLD YOUR ANGLES WELL AND REPEAT ON BOTH SIDES YOULL GET A KNIFE SHARP ENOUGH TO CUT PAPPER EVERY TIME SO YEAH I LOVE SHARPENING MY KNIVES IM LITTERLY ABOUT TO SHARPEN MY SENCUT HONORIS WRIGHT NOW
I USE A PIECE OF SQUARE CERAMIC STONE THING TO SHARPEN ALL MY CHEAP AND EASY STEELS AND IT WORKS PRETTY WELL FOR ONLY ONE SMALL SQUARE PIECE OF CERAMIC LOL SO IF I CAN SHARPEN A KNIFE WITH JUST THAT THEN ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SHARPEN A KNIFE WITH ONE OF THESE STONES OR DIAMOND PLATES OR WHAT EVER FOR SURE
take caps off and stop yelling
@@joesabet2001 he needs help with punctuation also. lol
@@EvilTwinRC51 haha yeah, not one comma or period in that hot mess of a statement
WHAT MY FREE HAND IS LIKE 4 OUT OF 10 SO YEAH THATS THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO SHARPEN MY KNIVES LOL SINCE IM SO POOR I CAN ONLY AFFORD AMAZON CHEAP WHETSTONE KITS FOR ONLY $18.00 DOLLARS LOL