I'm guessing the massive engine on the front is why this thing is so twitchy, maybe add like 50-100kg to the rear? Also the floating shifter at 24:35 lmao
He should've moved the driver and firewall rearward and made it front-mid engine before shortening the wheelbase. Also, the most he should've shortened the wheelbase to is about 250cm. Given nominal vehicle widths of 180-200cm (not incl mirrors) and tire sizes (660-720mm tall) of today, 250-280cm is the nimbleness/stability sweet spot, and a lot of racing series' seem to be within this range, too, barring LMP and Formula. (Conversions: ~98"-110" wheelbase, ~70"-78" width, ~26"-28" diameter tire.)
This creation of yours reminds me of the Vivace Gambler 500 contest mod, they took and entire vivace and removed everything but the body itself, and built and exo-rollcage, yours looks awesome tho.
Crown Vic’s have ironically become a popular option as a exo kart or “death kart” so I’m glad you chose the grand marshal, and I have a Vic I used to daily and wanna do this🤣
When you shorten/lengthen the wheel base of a car, use nodeMove, not nodeOffset on the suspension, because the wheels already use nodeOffset, and you get conflicts, like the wheels still being on the vanilla place, while the rest of the suspension is moved forwards. Apparently, nodeMove has a higher priority over nodeOffset
@@fillman86 although, nodeMove doesn't work with simmetrical things. For example, for the wheels, nodeOffset mirrors its X value to make the mirrored part. If you want to mode a single thing front to back, or to one side, nodeMove works better, specially if that thing has nodeOffsets inside it.
IMO, it would've been better to move the seats, engine, and firewall BACK first before moving the rear up. Getting that lunk of steel behind the front axle centerline and as close to the rear as possible is key. You don't want to shorten the wheelbase too much, either. Stock wheelbase for a crown vic is 115 inches (292cm), and the best handling cars that are also relatively stable and not TOO long (especially given a nominal ~70-80 inch (180-200cm) width not including mirrors) have ~97 to ~110-inch (250-280cm) wheelbases. Just so you know. If it were a 2 seater I'd work within that range and set the occupants as far back without being between the rear wheels as I could, make that the back wall, then measure roughly 60-65 inches (about 160cm) forward for the firewall, then place the engine right up against it with maybe 2 inches (5cm) of clearance. If I were running an independent suspension car, I'd also use a rear-mounted transaxle with a torque tube like a Corvette instead of a traditional transmission+driveshaft. My recent research has been making me think that a solid axle (with the right 3-link + watts link, or leaf spring setup) is actually underrated as far as handling performance is concerned, so my main priority would still be getting the engine and trans combo (and driver) as close to the rear as reasonable to begin with.
the car you were looking at and not thinking it is based on an actual car is called a Locost. it is a purpose built exocar, built from the ground up as one so there isn't a base chassis from some other car hidden under the cage. you should really check those out, they are really cool with a super friendly community, blueprints are available either for free or for a small fee and then just build to your hearts content
When he Imports the the the EXO frame into BeamNG and when he refreshes the car for the second time you can hear Shinyodd say yeet and then say he's not a f****** wizard
Exocars do come at various degrees I feel, as I think Ariel Atom kinda is one? well... depends on the definition, if it's meant to be made from an existing car or not, I've never fully grasped what they are. But I do feel it could be "easy" to make something unique IRL, if you had one with an engine that could fit a BMW gearbox, for the dual clutch flappy pedal stuff. But it is kinda cool to see how "realistic" they were with the car in BeamNG, it's basically a Crown Vic, which were the last body on frame cars pretty much, up into the 2000s, so they're popular to just toss the body off, and put on a pick-up truck body instead, getting a lower truck with more handling than it would have had originally.
I know there is a pickup truck version of the Covet coming from a video trailer of the mod which is called Covup (for now it is paid since it is not yet released and the payment is just for early acess of the mod,it will be available at either the beamng forums or/and the repository.... And it looks cool....
@@fillman86It's been a long time since i looked at those, but you should be able to used the beamng internal model exporter to generate proper models for those softwares. Something like autodesk flowdesign should take .obj files that can be exported with blender too.
oh I saw those, but didn't realise they were MX5s underneath. Seems like a waste, there's so much work there, they might as well have made their own cars
Day 2 of akking for Hillclimb pigeon just give it like like the bolide v8, give it a widebody, give it 8 wheels, give it 4 wheel drive and last but not least full Hillclimb aero P.S. you should call it the Muye Hillclimb Edition and paint it the Muye baby blue that he always paint his cars P.S.S. When you going to release the long pigeon mod?
Could you make a modding tutorial for beginners, because i'm trying to do a kei truck mod using the pigeon's base and a honda acty 3d model but idk were to start
(Ignore this, I didn't watch the whole video) Please correct me if I getting this wrong. Exo cars have insane amount of drag. known. Now we have built an exo car in beamNG that is faster than its original variant. And we want to make a conclusion there is anything here to celebrate? and this is a good idea to build in real?! I only see a big problem here BeamNG simulates no turbulences and that ruins the authenticity of the complete class of these cars. A Hint: that's why the original rockbashers top speed is an utter failure. (way too high)
Why would you ise the Grand M? Why not go with something even funnier, like the D series, (because that can get stupid amounts of power as just a frame) or blue buck, because it has a "cool" frame
so? I saw there was a few, and I wanted to make one too. If I never did things that other's already have, there'd be no videos to make, and I'd be bored
@@fillman86 brain cars are just a car in beamng that has its body, wheel, seats, and any other "unnesasary" weight/objects and keeping the chassis almost like the chassis you started with before moding it
Haha I don’t think the stock grand marshal makes that much power, but it’s the torque that makes those wheels spin uncontrollably when there’s less weight pushing down on them
@@fillman86 that is a fair point, i was referring more towards in the real world, but i suppose that the same concept would apply to real life as it does in beamng, love the content man, you just earned a sub
@@fillman86 Not really. It's more of a barebone car with a shell Looks like this. Basically a nascar made for dirt. The frame is very similar upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/IMCA_Southern_Sportmod.jpg or media.the-digital-picture.com/Images/Tips/Dirt-Track-Racing-Photography/Stock-Car-Profile.jpg
![ILLSLICK - THE KING'S LANDING [Freestyle]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/feIJJnNkTfk/mqdefault.jpg)
I love how fill is just completely not noticing the shifter just spinning around in the interior.
lol I did, but it seems that jordan cut that part out haha
@@fillman86 yeah but it’s funny that you didn’t notice it until like way after. Also, props to you, you are always replying to ppls comments.
The shifter is..... *SpEcIaL*
It’s like the control stick from the Airplane! landing scene.
I did consider not fixing it, but I went ahead and fixed it, so you'll have it fixed in the repository version :P
@fillman86 why did you fix it
I like how it just slowly sneaks away like we wouldnt see
Wow, I was imagining a car with the chassis on the outside and the body on the inside…
I know what Exo Cars are I was just expecting something else.
ah a few people have mixed up exocage and exocar, and tbh I'd probably make the same mistake
You mean like Alex Choi's Lamborghini Unicorn?
@@_T.C.G_ Yes
Yeah, wouldn't this be an endocar?
I'm guessing the massive engine on the front is why this thing is so twitchy, maybe add like 50-100kg to the rear? Also the floating shifter at 24:35 lmao
These builds also tend to use 4 cylinder engines and not massive American V8 engines, but hey I'm not complaining that he did this video.
I do have plans to revisit this concept in the future ;)
@@fillman86 do it again, with the stock wheelbase but the engine pushed way back
@@smvuy damn I was going to do that, but my policy of not taking requests now means that I won't do it :( you've ruined it for everyone
He should've moved the driver and firewall rearward and made it front-mid engine before shortening the wheelbase. Also, the most he should've shortened the wheelbase to is about 250cm. Given nominal vehicle widths of 180-200cm (not incl mirrors) and tire sizes (660-720mm tall) of today, 250-280cm is the nimbleness/stability sweet spot, and a lot of racing series' seem to be within this range, too, barring LMP and Formula.
(Conversions: ~98"-110" wheelbase, ~70"-78" width, ~26"-28" diameter tire.)
This creation of yours reminds me of the Vivace Gambler 500 contest mod, they took and entire vivace and removed everything but the body itself, and built and exo-rollcage, yours looks awesome tho.
that's not an exocar, that's an exocage like what I did for my gambler blueroamer
Fill: Doing a hot lap.
The gear stick: HELICOPTER! HELICOPTER!
I think lonely island did something like that lol
Crown Vic’s have ironically become a popular option as a exo kart or “death kart” so I’m glad you chose the grand marshal, and I have a Vic I used to daily and wanna do this🤣
oh, I had a look and saw no examples :/ I assumed it was due to the work to get the dash/firewall section back into the car
When you shorten/lengthen the wheel base of a car, use nodeMove, not nodeOffset on the suspension, because the wheels already use nodeOffset, and you get conflicts, like the wheels still being on the vanilla place, while the rest of the suspension is moved forwards. Apparently, nodeMove has a higher priority over nodeOffset
Interesting, I’ll test that out one day :)
@@fillman86 although, nodeMove doesn't work with simmetrical things. For example, for the wheels, nodeOffset mirrors its X value to make the mirrored part. If you want to mode a single thing front to back, or to one side, nodeMove works better, specially if that thing has nodeOffsets inside it.
@@raphaelrodrigues1645 yeah I know the difference, I learned it when I put 10 superchargers on the burnside
IMO, it would've been better to move the seats, engine, and firewall BACK first before moving the rear up. Getting that lunk of steel behind the front axle centerline and as close to the rear as possible is key. You don't want to shorten the wheelbase too much, either. Stock wheelbase for a crown vic is 115 inches (292cm), and the best handling cars that are also relatively stable and not TOO long (especially given a nominal ~70-80 inch (180-200cm) width not including mirrors) have ~97 to ~110-inch (250-280cm) wheelbases. Just so you know.
If it were a 2 seater I'd work within that range and set the occupants as far back without being between the rear wheels as I could, make that the back wall, then measure roughly 60-65 inches (about 160cm) forward for the firewall, then place the engine right up against it with maybe 2 inches (5cm) of clearance. If I were running an independent suspension car, I'd also use a rear-mounted transaxle with a torque tube like a Corvette instead of a traditional transmission+driveshaft.
My recent research has been making me think that a solid axle (with the right 3-link + watts link, or leaf spring setup) is actually underrated as far as handling performance is concerned, so my main priority would still be getting the engine and trans combo (and driver) as close to the rear as reasonable to begin with.
the car you were looking at and not thinking it is based on an actual car is called a Locost. it is a purpose built exocar, built from the ground up as one so there isn't a base chassis from some other car hidden under the cage.
you should really check those out, they are really cool with a super friendly community, blueprints are available either for free or for a small fee and then just build to your hearts content
oh they're lotus 7 kit cars :D that's cool that there's still cool cars like that :)
Shifter is vibing
hooked it up to my doof doof
When he Imports the the the EXO frame into BeamNG and when he refreshes the car for the second time you can hear Shinyodd say yeet and then say he's not a f****** wizard
wait, what did my editor put in? XD I'm worried now lol
When you refresh the EXO frame after the first time it went crazy then after you refresh it the second time you can hear him
Since you already made a short wheel base of the Grand Marshal you should make a two-door Grand Marshal
I think someone already made that’s
@@Burntnugget1223 I searched up and I couldn't find it
Exocars do come at various degrees I feel, as I think Ariel Atom kinda is one? well... depends on the definition, if it's meant to be made from an existing car or not, I've never fully grasped what they are.
But I do feel it could be "easy" to make something unique IRL, if you had one with an engine that could fit a BMW gearbox, for the dual clutch flappy pedal stuff.
But it is kinda cool to see how "realistic" they were with the car in BeamNG, it's basically a Crown Vic, which were the last body on frame cars pretty much, up into the 2000s, so they're popular to just toss the body off, and put on a pick-up truck body instead, getting a lower truck with more handling than it would have had originally.
yeah I think exocars are meant to be based off of an existing car
The best example of one (in my opinion at least), Roadkill's Vette Kart! Absolutely love that thing!
Haha yeah, hence why it was my first example
I can't tell you how much I love that you make your mods free and easy to access, Thank you!
yeah, I'm not a fan of pay walls, so I only charge for early access
8:45 i think we DO want that
edit: 9:05 and we got IT
lol
Hey fill how did you get beamNG to show you the previous times with the car you drove? Is that a mod?
that's just the time trials thing in the main splash screen, other than that my editor also put up a lap times thing on screen at the end :)
@@fillman86 Oh i just checked yeah thats why, would have been a nice feature in normal freeroam as well. Thanks for the answer
I know there is a pickup truck version of the Covet coming from a video trailer of the mod which is called Covup (for now it is paid since it is not yet released and the payment is just for early acess of the mod,it will be available at either the beamng forums or/and the repository.... And it looks cool....
you mispelt Marshall in the thumbnail... just an fyi. Love you fillman
urg english is so dumb, they're both related words, why not spell them the same haha
FYI, there are wind tunnels simultors available for free on the internet.
I’m pretty sure the good ones require your models to be in cad
@@fillman86It's been a long time since i looked at those, but you should be able to used the beamng internal model exporter to generate proper models for those softwares. Something like autodesk flowdesign should take .obj files that can be exported with blender too.
"limited slip...oh...Welded"
lol it makes budgetary sense
What button do you push to make the weight show up?
ctrl+n and to cycle backwards it's shift+ctrl+n
@@fillman86 tysm
exocet turns 1990-2005 miatas into these monstrous things. KInda sad
oh I saw those, but didn't realise they were MX5s underneath. Seems like a waste, there's so much work there, they might as well have made their own cars
now i can officially say i made a mod sooner than fillman, i made a exo pessima like a month or 2 ago
Day 2 of akking for Hillclimb pigeon just give it like like the bolide v8, give it a widebody, give it 8 wheels, give it 4 wheel drive and last but not least full Hillclimb aero
P.S. you should call it the Muye Hillclimb Edition and paint it the Muye baby blue that he always paint his cars
P.S.S. When you going to release the long pigeon mod?
you should do a "short size" body for it
you should do another version of that but with a pigeon or wigeon body
Could you make a modding tutorial for beginners, because i'm trying to do a kei truck mod using the pigeon's base and a honda acty 3d model but idk were to start
Already done my man
th-cam.com/video/_b9p9POjQOk/w-d-xo.html
:)
It's not about the top speed it's about how fast you can accelerate.
lol especially when you're aero limited
Ive been waiting for an exo car and a driving chassis for a long time
dricing?
@@fillman86 Dry icing 🤔
@@kem0n0.kokomo 😭😭😭 idk if dry icing a chassis is useful but it sure as hell sounds cool
@@fillman86 driving** my bad :)
@@memorimusic420 well a chassis is for driving?
Short wheelbase really unsettled it
yep, it'll have a much smaller moment of inertia
(Ignore this, I didn't watch the whole video)
Please correct me if I getting this wrong. Exo cars have insane amount of drag. known. Now we have built an exo car in beamNG that is faster than its original variant. And we want to make a conclusion there is anything here to celebrate? and this is a good idea to build in real?!
I only see a big problem here BeamNG simulates no turbulences and that ruins the authenticity of the complete class of these cars. A Hint: that's why the original rockbashers top speed is an utter failure. (way too high)
haha tell me you didn't watch the whole video without telling me you didn't watch the whole video :P
Yes, I Jumped parts. It's quite annoying that if we take out doors and windshield we get a quicker build :*(
@@christopherpotter6753 once again, it'd be better if you watched the video haha
amazing tutorial, and amazing editing
yeah jordan did a great edit this time :)
Think you need a short throw shifter in this .... its just a hunch
haha
I need a covet exocar, bout to learn these programs just to make one
Oh man it’s fun to be creative, so have fun !!
is it supposed to be approved by now? cause its been a while and I don't see it
It got rejected for no reason that I can tell -_-
@@fillman86 dang
Why would you ise the Grand M? Why not go with something even funnier, like the D series, (because that can get stupid amounts of power as just a frame) or blue buck, because it has a "cool" frame
I tought you said D series because of the D word
@@do5425the D sport.
Why not? lol
they're basically the same engine, but I went with "ex-cop car" perks
Hi fillman86 can you do a tutorial on how to make automation snorkels to work on beamng drive thanks you and have a good day 🙂
hmmm I've done that before, but it beats me to remember what video it was
@@fillman86 would it be your offroad Topgear hover van rip off? (But made better)????
Actualy Somebody made a EXO car mod
so? I saw there was a few, and I wanted to make one too. If I never did things that other's already have, there'd be no videos to make, and I'd be bored
And you could add škoda Felicia next And add a big turbo to it
exo car is literally just a irl brain car in beamng
not sure I follow
@@fillman86 brain cars are just a car in beamng that has its body, wheel, seats, and any other "unnesasary" weight/objects and keeping the chassis almost like the chassis you started with before moding it
@@silly-indie that's a skeleton car
or stripped out car
Hey fillman87, your stick is flopping around
The grand carshell.
lol this is the exact opposite of a shell :P
we own a VW buggy that is pretty much pure rollcage that reminds me of these
yeah, this concept has been around for a while, but I feel it's only recently reached wider audience recently
@@fillman86 since i live in the neck of the woods in Arkansas, USA, it is used for hunting and bombing gravel roads
You should do an exo car with the BX
I mean yea they have more drag. But the weight loss compensates
yeah, just don't race at lemans :P
someone made an exo car with the pessima but the mod hasnt been updated in a while
not drivable anymore
yeah, there's a few exocars, but I wanted to make my own
should have tried adding race tires first 17:40
I wanted it to be a budget build
Anyone notice the shifter😂
I think many people have noticed the helicopter meme shifter 🤣
haha I have fixed it now, but I just put up with it in the video because I wanted to go to bed :P
Wow
i mean, 3,000 lbs and 300 hp vs 2000 lbs and 300 hp is a world of difference
Haha I don’t think the stock grand marshal makes that much power, but it’s the torque that makes those wheels spin uncontrollably when there’s less weight pushing down on them
@@fillman86 that is a fair point, i was referring more towards in the real world, but i suppose that the same concept would apply to real life as it does in beamng, love the content man, you just earned a sub
deez nodes
ha gateem
The car: solwly becameing over powered....
these vids are great 10/10
new sub
Glad you like them!
That exocar is based off of a real car. I believe it is a exomotive something???
No idea, I just had an idea and wanted to have fun
@@fillman86 me too
Nice one
Thanks 🔥
nice vid again fill can you make an super gt autobella
The shifter, now ready for takeoff you spin me right now, and next time maybe you should make a shifter prop lol.
Make a legran with civetta engine Just like a lancia with a ferrari heart
haha next on the line; turning the Pigeon into a ExoCar
Making an American car loose weight
The frame looks like a stock Dirt race car
oh those things with the weird roof wing things
@@fillman86 Not really. It's more of a barebone car with a shell
Looks like this. Basically a nascar made for dirt. The frame is very similar
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/08/IMCA_Southern_Sportmod.jpg or media.the-digital-picture.com/Images/Tips/Dirt-Track-Racing-Photography/Stock-Car-Profile.jpg
I love it
thanks :)
the shassy
This might be my new favorite from your cars.
haha it is pretty wild, and I think I'll revisit it soon-ish
Hello mate good to see u ❤😊
:)
@@fillman86❤😊
The gearstick is going insane!
nice 👌👌👌👌
👌👈
like nr.101 mine
grand martial wtf?
How do you see your dislikes?
I have a chrome plugin called "bring back the dislike button"
dude same haha @@fillman86
I farted
I should probably sleep
It's 6 am in Canada, video as uploaded when I make up for work at 5:30.
for me it’s 12, perfect for some food :D
I set thee video to go live at 9pm, you should probably lobby your local government to change your time zone
5 min gang
hell yeah
Nice I'm 6th
close, 8th, but that's still top 10 :)
Great video here mate, 5th
ooOOoo 6th though hehe
First
noice
Second
I'm second
@@jaspercox-vf5tk nope
@@YOLO-ox6lusolid argument
oooo you were third haha close though
Ha, third
also good content
haha actually 4th :P
but I won't turn away views, and I'm glad you liked it :)
second
very close to first haha