Gavril T-Series Remaster Pulling Test! New BeamNG Update!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- Bigger engine and new looks for our beloved heavy-duty truck!
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I absolutely adore the T-Series cabover. I find it hilarious, because the shorty, single axle cabover when set up right can drift like no one’s business 😂
This is what I did as soon as I downloaded the update
same lol
Great minds think alike. My Race/Drift config for it is called Lil' Shitter
Same
same, i just trippled the engine force and can drift all configurations with 1000HP!
holy smoke that frame flex at the end! absolutely loved this update with cab over design and im surprise the smallest turbo can pull that much weight.
Nobody is mentioning the exceptional sound and split axle in the new update
I love the sound. @@eugenecrabs3954
It would pull even better with a proper manual trans. The stall on the converter for the 5-speed automatic used here is significantly higher than peak engine torque, so most of the engine's useable power is just wasted deep frying the transmission in its own oil. Every time the truck stalls out on the incline it's with the engine pulling ABOVE peak torque; a manual transmission would not have this problem.
@@TestECull A manual transmission was used in the video at the end
@@TestECull The manual wouldn't have that problem because it'd either stall or fry the clutch, either happening before you'd get to where the auto got to
i love how BeamNG has turned out in the last 10 years. From simply a Gavril D-series pickup to now all the cars we love today. this new update has put some nice light on the T-series, and i love the COE variants as well. Maybe next one they should do is a V8 diesel for the T-series. just sayin.
Detroit 8v71 pls.
Scania D16 inspired, that V8 sings
Modern T Series
Muye had speculated that somewhere in the next update or two, the devs are going to add a European semi, because the name for T Series changed to US Semi
@@TestECull That would be a cool engine to base a new V8 diesel.
It would pull way better with the 10-speed manual. Converter slip is a major issue with the 5-speed auto used in the testing. The engine's peak torque hits so low that the converter hasn't 'stalled' yet, and that means the engine can be pulling its heart out and the truck isn't going anywhere because all that torque is just deep frying the transmission in its own oil instead of moving the rig.
nah it pulls better with the 5 speed auto, 10 speed isnt geared low enough
@@whomst7574yeah the auto just needs a heavy flywheel and it works perfect with the torque amplifier
@@whomst7574 Change out the rear end gearing then. Its been low enough for me so far with two tanker trailers filled with milk (roughly 91 tons of trailer)
@@bloroxcleach with the highest power engine and highest diff ratio and low pressure in the tires the auto can pull 2 milk trailers up steeper hills than the 10 speed, easy to test on wcusa
actually low pressure makes it worse, just need to have the hitch forward
"So much torque the chassis twisted coming off the line"
-Dom Toretto
Me and my dad built it. 900 horses of Belasco Muscle! 😎🤟😜
love the fact that you bent the entire frame cuz of the torque
Can't wait for the mods that add more turbos, engine parts and customizable transmission...
I hope modders have a blast updating old mods and creating new ones now that the remaster has finally happened.
Def. The new max output isn't quite enough
@@3ch0_17 It could use more power for sure. Can barely hit 55 with a load. Also, the trucks are way too flexible.
@@ClumsyCars they are supposed to be flexible like that. But yeah, Yesterday I was playing around running loads around the west coast map and even with the turbo everything mod pushing 70 psi through the t series it would chug at 35 mph on grades lower but about equall too 5% , which in my experience is relatively unrealistic. 500 hp and 1600 ft lb loaded with 78k, grossing 86k lbs should maintain a steady 40 on a 6% grade. 800 and 2300 hp and torque should be able to run 50+ on a 6% grade with the same load
@@ClumsyCars Pretty realistic considering the incline and how that will happen with any frame and enough torque
eh, they were flexing with enough torque to tow something like 40 tons, almost as much as
YOUR MOM
OH SNAP
TOASTED and ROASTED
That’s actually quite a reasonable speed. Have you tried the T600? It’s a bit better. The differential ratio can help, as well. Also, the frames are like that in real life. It’s a truck made from 1972-‘86, do you think it’ll be stiff? @@ClumsyCars
Fingers crossed the dev team adds some old steam traction engines to the game. Those would be fun to test towing with.
The fx sound should be very easy to do thanks to Engine Simulator from AngeTheGreat !
They might, considering the newly-added compressed air system with the t-series remaster
Those old steam tractors don't mess around in pulling competitions, I mean yeah sure they take ages to get from one end to the other but what they lack in speed they more than make up in grunt and brute force.
I think it twisted the frame at the end
the truck was so powerful it twisted its own frame ahaha
1:00
8 Ton Cargo Boxes - 17,637lb.
1:46
16 Ton Cargo Boxes - 35,274lb.
2:51
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 7.7 Ton Hay Bales - 52,250lb.
3:57
(Added T350 Turbocharger)
5:06
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 11.2 Ton Wood Planks Trailer - 59,966lb.
6:37
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 7.7 Ton Hay Bales + 14 Ton Wood Planks Trailer - 66,139lb.
8:54
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 7.7 Ton Hay Bales + 11.2 Ton Wood Planks Trailer + 14 Ton Wood Planks Trailer + 22 Ton Milk Tank - 83,776lb.
9:34
(Added T450 Turbocharger)
10:16
(Added T600 Turbocharger)
11:41
(Manual Transmission Swap + 250hp NOS Shot)
[Credit to @kuilios for the corrections!]
not quite,
1:00
8 Ton Cargo Boxes - 17,637lb.
1:46
16 Ton Cargo Boxes - 35,274lb.
2:51
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 7.7 Ton Hay Bales - 52,250lb.
3:57
(Added T350 Turbocharger)
5:06
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 11.2 Ton Wood Planks Trailer - 59965.74lb.
6:37
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 14 Ton Wood Planks Trailer - 66138.7lb
8:54
16 Ton Cargo Boxes + 22 Ton Milk Tank - 83775.7lb.
9:34
(Added T450 Turbocharger)
10:16
(Added T600 Turbocharger)
11:41
(Manual Transmission Swap + 250hp NOS Shot)
Thank you
@@kuilios Thank you, I'll edit my comment and give you credit.
Ngl i like the remaster a lot
I think we’ve settled the torque or horsepower debate in this video. It’s power; it’s always been power. You can see it when the truck stops being able to pull as the torque rises. If torque was for pulling, it’d keep going. The only reason the truck was able to keep going as long as it did is because the torque converter was effectively giving the engine shorter gearing as it slipped. That doesn’t mean more wheel torque though, because it would’ve done even better as the RPMs fell and the engine torque rose, but it didn’t. With manual transmission, the engine just would’ve stalled.
It was going to stall on the last pull, and you can tell by how quickly the RPMs started to drop before the nitrous kicked it, giving it ~250 more hp. The only torque that was expressed here was the torque the frame experienced as it twisted because it wasn’t stiff enough to handle the load once the wheels stopped expending the energy in the system onto the road. Wheels aren’t really turning, engine doesn’t want to stall yet, so something has to give; that thing was the frame, and it twisted more at higher power levels, not torque.
Edit: readability
The converter slipping means the torque is not being applied to the drive axle. Failure of the converter.
@@SylasG What the converter was doing was giving the engine its best shot at moving those loads. Otherwise, there would have been a stall, clutch slip, frame twist, or some other expression of the engine not being able to turn the wheels anymore. If you substituted the word power for torque, I’d agree with you on your first sentence. The converter didn’t fail, though; it was doing its job.
The remastering of the T-Series is amazing but the new engine is what I give the devs a cookie about. Sounds amazing, deep and throaty! 😎
P.S.: You forgot to test the T300 turbocharger but ok.
Thank you! :)
@@MarkTDKKnightYou're very welcome Sir! You knocked it out of the park! 💗😎
My dad was a test driver for GM at their proving grounds in Milford, MI for 33 years. They would have to do tests like this. He would haul various weights/loads up different grades they had at their test tracks.
I would like to see them add a drag version like you see at the pulling conpetitions. After all, we have softbody for it to have frame flex like in real life!
I absolutely love the new version of the truck, all that is missing now is a SCANIA V8 turbo diesel engine!
That’s crazy how much torque the engine has with the t450 and t600 turbos. Damn near flipping the cab over lol
It really bothers me how the clutch automatically starts to engage when the rpm drops below 1800 or so, even though the engine hasn’t even reached peak torque. Devs should take a look at that.
That'd be the result of the Arcade gearbox mode, switching it to Realistic would disable the auto-clutch feature
8:53 i dont think milk is suppoost to be corrosive.. 💀
Spilled milk is actually an environmental hazard. It can ruin ground water, kill fish or at least cause a nasty smell.
I saw the exact same truck in real life like it was 1 to 1 with the T series cabover box truck even with the same stock colours.
Shouldn’t this be tested with manual transmission and not automatic? It seems like at the higher power it’s just blowing through the converter cause the wheel speed doesn’t coincide with the engine rpm. Manual trans if it comes to a stop it would stall but you’re not losing torque through the converter.
My guy is the Torque King……you are about the twisting chassis frame life. I’m here for it!
That’s a beefy u-joint tho. Lmao I love the warped frame.
I'm kinda disappointed we only have one engine option now.
may I introduce you to the land of mods
It always had one engine option, there’s been mods for it and there’s more now
Glad ur back to BeamNG!
I love how it starts tilting when working harder to pull.
That torque and that power💪
I pulled 10 trailers with one on grid map yesterday. Keep in mind they were empty 53 foot trailers but still
Gotta say, the new engine looks and sounds way better.
Awesome - thanks
also a detroit engine pack would be pretty cool
I wish devs would put more liberty on how to tune this engine to make crazy power without NOS
mods
@@throwawaypt2throwawaypt2-xp8nx *without mods
Its a good day when mustard uploads.
Jager? I know you! The guy from Fillmans livestreams
@@dimazkamaz Thats me
I managed to pull 150 tonnes on this incline. Changing the final drive and loading the rear axel more did the trick
I figured this out for myself. Figured out they could haul about 10 milk tanks full of milk. Total about 600,000lbs and it pulled it.
I really love the new truck update, but I was really sad to see the lack of tuning parts it has. It feels more like an Automation truck. The sound is fantastic though, especially with the stove pipes
Glad you like the sound: :)
All this fuel burnt for this test.... 😂
It was acting a little bit weird with the way it was twerking the axle but it's still fun watching a cab over do the steer axle dance . My only guess is because it has the big box frame on it it was forcing the axle to articulate instead of talking the frame like normal semis would.
So much torque, the chassis twisted coming off the line
Just love the smell of clutch in the morning
I would love to see a tandem axle tractor with all the diff and inter axle locks installed
That thing looks like it would be fun to race around with trailers
I would love to see a v8 or v12 diesel for the t series remodel, something based off of either the 3408, 8v92, or 12v71 maybe
T-series overhaule is the best thing that happend in BeanNG in last 3 years.
I love when the truck almost get down for the high pressure of the turbochrager and the nos 😮😅😂
Just subscribed on my new phone, your not forgotten.
The reason it keeps loosing speed, then holding at a certain number before increasing again is because the torque is in the middle of the RPMs range
It's the torque converter slipping, which effectively shortens the gearing for the engine. If you look at the graph, the peak torque for the engine occurs at a much lower RPM than where the truck stops moving.
I have been running into problems where my tractor doesn't have enough power and torque to pull such heavy loads every time I play farming simulator 19. Thankfully I own a 650HP semi truck to help because currently I don't have tractors that exceed over 200HP except my John Deere. I plan to purchase a sync trac vehicle and a claas tractor. Those machinery vehicles will be more reliable than what I currently have.
The wheel torque surprisingly smoothed out after switching to the manual transmission.
I knew you'd like this update, mustard! Been missing the beamng videos
Hah. This is just reminding me of my run at work these days.
Gotta climb a 2.2km hill that takes me about 5 minutes. Fun times.
Next time can you do 400 Mph on Gavril T-Series Remaster
450*
At that point you're just breaking the physics engine
I'm sad they nerfed the turbos for this truck they used to push 57psi but now they max at 47
You have to try a standard weight quarter mile test. 80K pounds with 4.62 gears
That's really light weight though.
i gotta say that engine sound is on POINT
Glad it's meeting expectations. Our first internally created engine sound!
@@MarkTDKKnight Do you have any intentions on making other perfect sounds like this for the other cars?
@@epeli0035 Oh yes. Overall I want everything replaced, but that's going to take time.
@@MarkTDKKnight Awesome
@@MarkTDKKnightAre you saying you auto-generated this sound? If so, that's amazing.
hello, nice video! WE need some new stuff in the game. like wheelloaders and excavators, ( the liebherr 538 crashes all the time in the game)
Because it's all poorly designed mods. It has nothing to do with devs.
I think you're starting to become traction limited. Maybe make it AWD or make bigger tires. You did a seam power limited as the engine always stayed near peak power, or maybe the clutch was slipping?
Is there a manual transmission option?
The torque converter is slipping too much
Oops, dodnt see the manual at the end
If you'd like to see this IRL come to Arizona and drive up Black Canyon Freeway 😂
Love the vids! Curious though, how do you prevent tire slip? When I try to do this myself I just get a load of spinning. Is there some super grip tire mod?
I seem to have the same issue, would like to know how to control it. I found a mod in the repository that gives you 1.5x grip tires but when using those it starts axle hopping instead of spinning. Idk how he does it
@@westinhall3726 yeah, at first I thought the darker area was something similar to the pavement type used on the drag strip to increase grip but it’s not that at all
Great example of how a diesel engine can do a shit ton of work, but very slowly. It has to do it slow, or it won't do it at all.
Why not let the transmission shift gears? Thanks for another great video. 👍
So it stays in first for more torque
Cause it will downshift anyways just as it hits the incline. And downshifting will cause it to loose momentum.
more torque in first gear, just like on a bicycle up a hill you go to lower gear for more torque, higher gear is for speed
Very cool video.
They need to add 2 stroke Detroit style engines.
Haha that setup is funny though. A single axle cabover long ass box truck… with a sleeper.
Somewhat common in Europe. At least here in Finland we use box trucks with trailers for long distance transport, up to 76 tons GVW is allowed.
didnt know there was an update till you uploaded lol
Alright! Back to some BeamNG ccntent!
babe wake up forgotten mustard posted
Transmission built by the gods
That cab reminds me of the BJ And The Bear TV Series. Kenworth K100 series 😊
I wonder what powerplate was used in BJ's version & how much that tractor haul up a 20% grade in 20k-lb increments? 😅
Hey, just a little heads up, you don't have to click the + or - on the parts selector, you can just click the category and the menu will drop down. Both ways are perfectly fine by all means obviously, but it may be less tedious to click the box itself :)
they need to add in transmission temp overheating and drive axl snapping from too much torque!
I know it might not be the same but the clutch can overheat.
That poor torque converter. Doing 2mph with so much torque going thru it.
How do the carreer crates function in freeroam? Are they as heavy as can be? Or can i adjust it?
It’s days like today I wish my crappy laptop could run beam 😂
So they added hydro dynamic clutch 😮
Would love if you put some chapter segments in the video so I can skip to the biggest turbo. I watch on tv so it’s hard to find it
why is no one using the 10 spd with ranges?? and when they do they all say the name is messed cuz its a 5 spd manual....lol some of these haybale loads and bins can have easliy been brought up even on the 30% incline I think.
I use it even though I’m on controller. Love seeing the two sticks move
Is no one going to mention that the torque of the engine twisting the frame of the truck managed to put so much load on the rear right suspension that it collapsed on the last tests?
The sound🤤
Don’t take the way I used that emoji out of context y’all🤨
i always wondered how do you inspect the vehicles like that in beam ng, i still havent figured it out yet
What do you mean by inspect? Like tune and customize?
I think the auto trans is why it didnt do so well. Slippage and all that
I'll never understand how they can build driveshaft U joints strong enough for this kind of torque IRL lol
The bigger question is why do we not have straps for vehicles on trailers yet???
Would be nice. But the node grabber works pretty good , if there was no way to do it, then it would really be an issue.
There’s a mod for that on the repo but it’s a WIP
truck go BRRRR
Hey, are you Mustard (as in the better history channel) as well?
How did you attach the car trailer tro the truck? It has a different cuppling that trucks and I can't find a way to hook them up
You would have gotten better results with a 10 speed, a 5 speed in a big rig like like having spare donut tires on a race car.
i dont like the way the new gearbox works with it being 5 speed with overdrive in each gear i have to use the mouse to go in and out of ovverdrive
Should’ve put a manual transmission or locking converter, lots of torque loss through the converter
I disagree. With a locking converter or clutch, the engine just would've stalled. With the torque converter, the engine was able to keep trying to move the load, because of the torque multiplication/lever lengthening, instead of bogging and stopping because it didn't have enough power for the load. If you want to see an example of that starting to happen, the last run has a manual transmission and the most power. It was going to stall if the nitrous hadn't kicked in and added another 250hp. You can tell because of how quickly the RPMs dropped.
Got that low gear eating bygod
is the old T-series still there? i like the cabover, but its not a T-series to me. they should have called it something else, or called it the T-Cabover😊
how do you get this much traction ? when i try it myself my truck starts jumping because of the lack of traction
Perfect
The Temps would've flown through the roof..
how do you get all those stats and the power curve on screen?
Search in the "ui apps" for engine debug, engine dyno and engine thermals.
whats the point in adding power when it becomes clear the engine is not at fault anymore
What do you mean? Like, it’s the frame that’s the problem?
@@shoryuagTorque converter
@@epeli0035 The torque converter is just keeping the engine from stalling. Either the wheels are going to turn, the frame's going to twist, the converter is going to slip, the engine's going to stall, or something's going to break. Those are the options; the energy in the system needs to be expressed somehow.
@@shoryuag Yeah the torque converter is slipping
@@epeli0035 Right? I’m confused; what are you getting at? The torque converter has to slip if there’s not enough power to move the load.
Does the game finally support ranger/splitter bindings so I can properly shift 12+ gears?
The t Series does have a 10 speed transmission, but it’s split in 5 direct drive and 5 overdrive gears. So you could shift if properly I think
It does, kinda. They just made the 10-speed so that it's a 5-speed with a high/low range.
Could you do the same test with the manual?
Wasn't he doing the test with manual though?
@@haterhated5655 no, that was the automatic forced into first gear
@@Giuliana-w1f A manual was used at the end of the test
@@Sithhy huh, hadn't noticed. Still would be nice to directly compare the auto and the manual
Is it torque or power that´s more important here?
With the update, the T-Series kinda sounds like the truck from gta sa
Maybe they used the same source material that we did?