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Hey James vs Cinema...you should react to " The Wheel Of Time " tv show on amazon prime....this show is very similar to " Game Of Thrones " hbo tv show....anyways i think you will love " The Wheel Of Time "
Hey James, you would LOVE, CODE GEASS!! It’s an anime on Netflix that’s 2 seasons, and is in my opinion either equal or barley second to the light vs L kinda chess/ intellectual battle feelig, and is my second fav anime AND show of all time. Anyway keep up the amazing work!!
seriously i have NO IDEA why they didn’t just translate “brother” in korean to “brother” in english. the scene where the brothers finally meet he doesn’t say “inho why” he SAYS “brother why”. could’ve saved people a lot of confusion LOL
The glass bridge didn't blow up as an exciting finale, that bridge was primed to blow as soon as the timer reached zero. If anyone didn't make it across, boom, they dead.
Short episode, yep. Gotta respect them for using 30 minutes of show to tell 30 minutes worth of story. No unnecessary stretching ... just clear the decks to set up the finale.
pro tip - if you ever get something stabbed into you, like that piece of glass, do not take it out just leave it, it hurt but it also stopping you from bleeding out
Also, yes, James - the glass hurting Sae-Byoek was unfair and violated the ideology. That's the point - to show that the promise of meritocracy by those who make the players play the game is a lie.
When the Frontman kept showing how much he knows about Korean Police handguns and protocols, I figured he must know a policeman pretty well, like maybe his brother.
Yep, you called it even further back than episode 7. I don't remember which episode it was, but it was the scene where the detective was looking through the files to find his brother and discovered that he'd won the Squid Game several years prior. Also, the mural depicting all of the games was always there, but it was covered up by the many, many bunk beds, only to be slowly revealed over time as more and more people died. A very cool little detail that I paid attention to upon rewatching.
4:10 Yeah, what had me wondering about that... The CHARACTERS would have been able to see the not-exactly-small pictograms on the wall literally showing all six games that will be played (maybe even in order?)... Like really? No one saw that there are substantially big, black pictograms on a white wall? Bunk beds wouldn't cover them entirely. They did for the camera mostly, admittedly, but through the characters' eyes someone would have spotted it, I think.
"You guys are both right." Something a lot of people seem to fail to grasp, that there is no clear right/wrong choices. It's possible for two people to have differing opinions on an issue without one of them being in the wrong. Gi-hun was a man clinging to his humanity, trying to not let the game strip him of everything he had left. Sang-woo was a man who basically approached the game as "Look, we agreed to do this, knowing this shit is fucked up, so I'm going to commit to it because this is the way these bastards have stacked the deck against us." Neither are wrong. It's just their individual ways of surviving.
Still the most wholesome guy on TH-cam. Love your articulation, love how you give a nice long intro also how much you support your community. Thank you man. All around great channel 🥀🌷
The Frontman wasn't saying the games themselves are fair, just that they don't want any competitor to have (what they deem as) an unfair advantage over anyone else. You could argue they would not have turned the lights down on the Bridge without the VIPs being there (as it was boring).
And, because the creator blatantly called it an allegory for capitalism as of the modern world, it is meant to indicate that the promise of meritocracy itself is a lie.
Two big critiques I had with this show was how the glass is totally random, destroying what they say is the integrity of the game. The other you don’t know yet
I'd love to see you watch Arcane next. The show is based on League of Legends characters, but requires zero knowledge of the game. It truly stands on its own as a master class in animation, with extremely well written character interaction.
I’d play Squid Game before Hunger Games. Yes you’re odds are lower of winning, but at least you wouldn’t have to straight up murder, also I don’t mind lower odds because I don’t care if I die lol. Not a cry for help, I’m just a bit nihilistic. I mean what’s it really matter? Go for the big money, if I win my troubles are over, if I die, my troubles are over. Sounds like a win win to me.
James I love your reactions. Really excited to see your reaction of the finale of Squid Game! I really reccommend watching Atlanta or Snowfall as your next show btw. Keep up the great reactions!
yea it was in the last video/episode when the camera lingered on the Front Man's view of the dead guy's ID for a tad longer than it would in regular passing. You suspected it then
I've been watching a lot of reactions to Squid Game and almost everyone realized that the frontman was the detective's brother (maybe at the same point), so I think the producers wanted us to realize it beforehand. (I did too, btw)
Another clue that you can kinda guess that he’s his brother is the fact that the Front Man knows a lot about police operations. His comment about the bullets and also how good he is at noticing things, this could imply that he used to be a police officer/detective himself or he has someone close to him that he’s learned all this information from. Imagine if my theory was true and the detective actually joined the police force to follow his brother’s footsteps and then later found out the brother he looks up to is this guy who’s hosting this fucked up game, it’s very heartbreaking really.
but wait.. when the detective brother was in the front man brother's quarters, when the detective gets to the bottom of the stairs, the front man sees him. And this happened before they found the dead body with hid ID right? I have to go back now and double check
I agree the glass from explosion hurting her so bad violated the integrity of the game, and so did not feel like something they'd really allow, but instead was contrived to give them a way to narrow players to 2. And it was pretty obvious the black masked guy was going to be the brother by process of elimination. You knew the brother would be important and would turn up, and they had not revealed who black mask guy was, so it seemed probable they'd be the same person.
That’s a good synopsis. Had they really had to have 3 of them, it would’ve been nuts.. it was an easy solution letting sang woo kill her off instead of them fixing her. I hated that they didn’t want to help her, it was honourable making it as far as she did, if she had a chance.
@@caralayne503 The thing is, the writers wanted to both narrow down the players but also give the MC a motivation to want to kill his former friend. Also, since it was obvious she was going to die anyway, I think it may be useful also in confusing the emotions of the audience because we don't know whether to be extra-angry at the former friend for murdering the girl who was defenseless, or less angry because effectively she was dead anyway and he was just putting her out of her misery. That said, this is where great writing emerges, when you don't settle for a contrived plot device that accomplishes what you want, but you search till you find a NON-contrived plot device that will accomplish the same thing. For example, after the three of them survived the bridge, with NO explosion/injury, send them to dinner and after dinner, show footage of a player skulking through the air vents and announce that one of the remaining players violated the rules and as a penalty the food for that player was poisoned. Then we go back to the night scene where they each have a knife, but this time the girl is in agony from the poison not the glass shard. And we don't know if the poison is meant to kill or just cause pain and then abate, so we are still left confused when she's stabbed by the MC's former friend. I'm not saying that's the best way to write it, but it just shows there are other ways to reach the same result without lazily saying, "what if when they blow the bridge for effect, one of the shards mortally wounds her?" which should have caused the other writers in the room to all protest and say, "No, that violates the integrity that we've already established is paramount!" But it may have been late in the day, they were tired, and they just shrugged and said, "let's go with that." Anyway, it was a fun series, but it had a a few of these "weak" moments in the story/plot that could have been readily fixed with just a bit more effort. I really don't understand how scripts get into production without such basic stuff being caught and addressed, but it happens in the biggest blockbuster movies, too, and it's a head scratcher.
@@mymyersfamily agreed. And believe me, I worked in the industry for a celeb whom produced/edited film. I was always on a film set. I got used to hearing how to sway an audience, fool them, get them semi-interactive, & it’s a much bigger process than known, unless you have someone like a Tarantino, who’s visions have been done remarkably well mentally, with all of these things taken into consideration as he writes his scripts. That’s a lot of talent! For this, I think they did an above & beyond job on a whole. The fact they never saw the global acceptance & appreciation for this series is where the holes you pointed out were made. It wasn’t made like most blockbuster’s we now know as the norm. The only hype they had was word of mouth (well, the internet lol). So, I think the series did incredibly well, also considering the average American does not watch foreign films at the level this was seen. Rarely. They weren’t necessarily messy with the loopholes, but I think had it been made with global attention like it had, thing’s may have been a little tighter during the making of…. The only part that bothered me was her death, & while I do agree with your reasoning as to why, & that she wasn’t going to make it, the fact the game did actually have rules & were supposedly “fair” I don’t know why I, or the rest of the audience, went nuts with Sang Woo. But you’re right, they needed Hun to be past his point of no return. Sang woo already was after the first game, as he voted to keep it going. He had killer written all over him with how badly he messed up in real life. A desperate broken man, willing to do anything to recoup his life. Hun was getting there & close, but had he not seen Sang Woo did what he did, he wouldn’t have been a 100% killer. BTW, we sound like Siskel & Ebert here!
I’d for sure play hunger games over squid game. You have way better odds in hunger games. Not only are there more people to have to beat in squid game, but you also have pure luck as a factor at some points.
I felt the same way when the girl had that shard of glass in her abdomen…wtf? Why did the powers that be have to blow up the last of the glass walkway and end up having a contestant mortally wounded as a casualty of the blow up? I called foul on that. Didn’t seem to abide by the rules. I still wonder about that. Did I miss something?
The «ideology of fairness» is a sham and it always has been. Maybe the frontman believes genuinely that he is making it as fair as possible but he is kidding himself.
You asked whether we'd play Hunger Games or Squid Games, and I'd choose Hunger Games, because at least in that one you're playing to benefit others. In Squid games, you're there to benefit yourself (helping family members not withstanding).
I mean, having seen quite a few Korean Thrillers and just, movies, in general, As soon as the detective mentioned his brother was missing I assumed the front man was his brother. I actually said it out loud during the first(?) episode:P. It's just such a trope, and as the episodes went on it just seemed to keep inching towards proving it.. Not the strongest plot of the show, same as the VIP akwardness/terrible acting/writing. But still an enjoyable show non the less (with another big gaping issue being my major issue with the show as a whole, but wount spoil it at this point)
I kind of see it like the honeycomb game and tug of war where it’s about luck of the draw. Any 3 of them, or all of them, could’ve been impaled and she was the unlucky one.
I agree that the VIPs were one of the weakest parts of the show. In an effort to make them seem like insensitive douchebags, the writers made them one-dimensional and shallow characters. It also didn't help that the non-korean actors were B Level and below the quality of the korean cast.
6:03 the more I think about, no it really doesn't go against the ideology! As a metaphor for capitalism, sometimes you're going to get fucked up like in a car wreck that wasn't your fault, and capitalism isn't going to do shit for you, you're just fucked
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Hey James vs Cinema...you should react to " The Wheel Of Time " tv show on amazon prime....this show is very similar to " Game Of Thrones " hbo tv show....anyways i think you will love " The Wheel Of Time "
Hey James, you would LOVE, CODE GEASS!! It’s an anime on Netflix that’s 2 seasons, and is in my opinion either equal or barley second to the light vs L kinda chess/ intellectual battle feelig, and is my second fav anime AND show of all time.
Anyway keep up the amazing work!!
You'd like HOUSE OF CARDS and OZARK if you like dark and twisted dramas.
seriously i have NO IDEA why they didn’t just translate “brother” in korean to “brother” in english. the scene where the brothers finally meet he doesn’t say “inho why” he SAYS “brother why”. could’ve saved people a lot of confusion LOL
The translation is a bit all over the place
Honestly, the look in Sang-Woo's eyes after killing her is haunting.
The glass bridge didn't blow up as an exciting finale, that bridge was primed to blow as soon as the timer reached zero. If anyone didn't make it across, boom, they dead.
Short episode, yep. Gotta respect them for using 30 minutes of show to tell 30 minutes worth of story. No unnecessary stretching ... just clear the decks to set up the finale.
pro tip - if you ever get something stabbed into you, like that piece of glass, do not take it out just leave it, it hurt but it also stopping you from bleeding out
Also, yes, James - the glass hurting Sae-Byoek was unfair and violated the ideology. That's the point - to show that the promise of meritocracy by those who make the players play the game is a lie.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate James' personal aesthetic? This man be stylin' in every video!
When the Frontman kept showing how much he knows about Korean Police handguns and protocols, I figured he must know a policeman pretty well, like maybe his brother.
Yep, you called it even further back than episode 7. I don't remember which episode it was, but it was the scene where the detective was looking through the files to find his brother and discovered that he'd won the Squid Game several years prior. Also, the mural depicting all of the games was always there, but it was covered up by the many, many bunk beds, only to be slowly revealed over time as more and more people died. A very cool little detail that I paid attention to upon rewatching.
4:10 Yeah, what had me wondering about that... The CHARACTERS would have been able to see the not-exactly-small pictograms on the wall literally showing all six games that will be played (maybe even in order?)... Like really? No one saw that there are substantially big, black pictograms on a white wall? Bunk beds wouldn't cover them entirely. They did for the camera mostly, admittedly, but through the characters' eyes someone would have spotted it, I think.
"You guys are both right."
Something a lot of people seem to fail to grasp, that there is no clear right/wrong choices. It's possible for two people to have differing opinions on an issue without one of them being in the wrong. Gi-hun was a man clinging to his humanity, trying to not let the game strip him of everything he had left. Sang-woo was a man who basically approached the game as "Look, we agreed to do this, knowing this shit is fucked up, so I'm going to commit to it because this is the way these bastards have stacked the deck against us." Neither are wrong. It's just their individual ways of surviving.
Still the most wholesome guy on TH-cam. Love your articulation, love how you give a nice long intro also how much you support your community. Thank you man. All around great channel 🥀🌷
The Frontman wasn't saying the games themselves are fair, just that they don't want any competitor to have (what they deem as) an unfair advantage over anyone else. You could argue they would not have turned the lights down on the Bridge without the VIPs being there (as it was boring).
Remember that the players were given a clue on the numbers on the VIPs request.
The games are being broadcasted to more VIPs. Only certain ones attend the games
Sang-woo pretty much finished her off because they could have voted to end the game with a majority vote.
the music that plays near the end is titled "Dawn," which is what Sae-byeok's name means 😢
I hope to see you cover “Arcane” in the future. I think you’d really dig it.
It’s not a hero’s journey, it’s a Shakespearean Tragedy 🎭
Was just about to recommend this! It's so good.
Gotta admit, Sang-woo has had some character development!
I'm developing these hands for Sang-Woo.
@@DJKuroh lmao
I love the actor who played the front man, Lee Byung-hun, you should check out ""Bittersweet life" :)
The games in the Hunger Games books seemed way more brutal and lasted way longer.
The "Fair Ideology" is there to control the players in my opinion. Adds something to believe in, just like the outside.
And, because the creator blatantly called it an allegory for capitalism as of the modern world, it is meant to indicate that the promise of meritocracy itself is a lie.
Finally became a patreon member man! Couldn't wait to see you finish squid games!😂
My man!!
As much as Sang Woo is not very likeable, he’s only doing what we would probably do in his position. He wants to stay alive
I think they blew up the whole glass bridge to kill anyone left on it after the time run out.
RIP to Squid games Waifu. You were too good for these games!
Two big critiques I had with this show was how the glass is totally random, destroying what they say is the integrity of the game. The other you don’t know yet
Isn't the glass pattern like the knight in chess?
Always excited for your reactions!
the Front Man being the brother I feel like that was very obvious xD
I'd love to see you watch Arcane next. The show is based on League of Legends characters, but requires zero knowledge of the game. It truly stands on its own as a master class in animation, with extremely well written character interaction.
I’d play Squid Game before Hunger Games. Yes you’re odds are lower of winning, but at least you wouldn’t have to straight up murder, also I don’t mind lower odds because I don’t care if I die lol. Not a cry for help, I’m just a bit nihilistic. I mean what’s it really matter? Go for the big money, if I win my troubles are over, if I die, my troubles are over. Sounds like a win win to me.
The cop called front man "Hyung" meaning older brother. The subtitle sucks wrote "In ho" which is his name
Difficult to translate as there is no equivalent word in English
@@Aeneiden I swear I've seen someone's reaction's subtitles just calling him "brother"
what clued me in about the brother is the file says he won the game, but was still missing.
Thanks for your time
James I love your reactions. Really excited to see your reaction of the finale of Squid Game! I really reccommend watching Atlanta or Snowfall as your next show btw. Keep up the great reactions!
yea it was in the last video/episode when the camera lingered on the Front Man's view of the dead guy's ID for a tad longer than it would in regular passing. You suspected it then
I've been watching a lot of reactions to Squid Game and almost everyone realized that the frontman was the detective's brother (maybe at the same point), so I think the producers wanted us to realize it beforehand. (I did too, btw)
As soon as the front man took off his mask, I knew it was his brother.
First awesome reaction James
Another clue that you can kinda guess that he’s his brother is the fact that the Front Man knows a lot about police operations. His comment about the bullets and also how good he is at noticing things, this could imply that he used to be a police officer/detective himself or he has someone close to him that he’s learned all this information from. Imagine if my theory was true and the detective actually joined the police force to follow his brother’s footsteps and then later found out the brother he looks up to is this guy who’s hosting this fucked up game, it’s very heartbreaking really.
Great reaction and yes that was his brother, and can you put out a reaction to the second Spider-Man 3 trailer
HoYeon Jung needs to be in more stuff.
Hadn't thought of the last meal on Death Row analogy.
..lol, ive never seen anyone so confused by the brother reveal!
React to Brother hood of war Korean War movie very good and unappreciated! It’s called Tae Guk Gi in korean
that's the first film I've ever cried at (in theaters too)
@@AlessaParker I’ve seen it a few times never gets old!
Awesome film
I never noticed the wall art!
You know that if Sae-Byoek wasn't impaled by the glass, she would have kicked both their @$$es to win.
Wish she had.
James VS Cinema, can you react to, The Pentagon Wars in the future?
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
To me the glass shard represents - Game notwithstanding, sometimes the universe just says F YOU
but wait.. when the detective brother was in the front man brother's quarters, when the detective gets to the bottom of the stairs, the front man sees him. And this happened before they found the dead body with hid ID right? I have to go back now and double check
When he took the mask off...i went nuts...Lee Byun Hun...
It's possible that cop brother is still alive, he did not really finish him like shooting to head.
Hwang In-ho 🤖 and Hwang Jun-ho👮♂️ are brothers. 😢
I agree the glass from explosion hurting her so bad violated the integrity of the game, and so did not feel like something they'd really allow, but instead was contrived to give them a way to narrow players to 2. And it was pretty obvious the black masked guy was going to be the brother by process of elimination. You knew the brother would be important and would turn up, and they had not revealed who black mask guy was, so it seemed probable they'd be the same person.
That’s a good synopsis. Had they really had to have 3 of them, it would’ve been nuts.. it was an easy solution letting sang woo kill her off instead of them fixing her. I hated that they didn’t want to help her, it was honourable making it as far as she did, if she had a chance.
@@caralayne503 The thing is, the writers wanted to both narrow down the players but also give the MC a motivation to want to kill his former friend. Also, since it was obvious she was going to die anyway, I think it may be useful also in confusing the emotions of the audience because we don't know whether to be extra-angry at the former friend for murdering the girl who was defenseless, or less angry because effectively she was dead anyway and he was just putting her out of her misery.
That said, this is where great writing emerges, when you don't settle for a contrived plot device that accomplishes what you want, but you search till you find a NON-contrived plot device that will accomplish the same thing. For example, after the three of them survived the bridge, with NO explosion/injury, send them to dinner and after dinner, show footage of a player skulking through the air vents and announce that one of the remaining players violated the rules and as a penalty the food for that player was poisoned. Then we go back to the night scene where they each have a knife, but this time the girl is in agony from the poison not the glass shard. And we don't know if the poison is meant to kill or just cause pain and then abate, so we are still left confused when she's stabbed by the MC's former friend.
I'm not saying that's the best way to write it, but it just shows there are other ways to reach the same result without lazily saying, "what if when they blow the bridge for effect, one of the shards mortally wounds her?" which should have caused the other writers in the room to all protest and say, "No, that violates the integrity that we've already established is paramount!" But it may have been late in the day, they were tired, and they just shrugged and said, "let's go with that." Anyway, it was a fun series, but it had a a few of these "weak" moments in the story/plot that could have been readily fixed with just a bit more effort. I really don't understand how scripts get into production without such basic stuff being caught and addressed, but it happens in the biggest blockbuster movies, too, and it's a head scratcher.
@@mymyersfamily agreed. And believe me, I worked in the industry for a celeb whom produced/edited film. I was always on a film set.
I got used to hearing how to sway an audience, fool them, get them semi-interactive, & it’s a much bigger process than known, unless you have someone like a Tarantino, who’s visions have been done remarkably well mentally, with all of these things taken into consideration as he writes his scripts. That’s a lot of talent!
For this, I think they did an above & beyond job on a whole. The fact they never saw the global acceptance & appreciation for this series is where the holes you pointed out were made. It wasn’t made like most blockbuster’s we now know as the norm. The only hype they had was word of mouth (well, the internet lol). So, I think the series did incredibly well, also considering the average American does not watch foreign films at the level this was seen. Rarely. They weren’t necessarily messy with the loopholes, but I think had it been made with global attention like it had, thing’s may have been a little tighter during the making of….
The only part that bothered me was her death, & while I do agree with your reasoning as to why, & that she wasn’t going to make it, the fact the game did actually have rules & were supposedly “fair” I don’t know why I, or the rest of the audience, went nuts with Sang Woo. But you’re right, they needed Hun to be past his point of no return. Sang woo already was after the first game, as he voted to keep it going. He had killer written all over him with how badly he messed up in real life. A desperate broken man, willing to do anything to recoup his life. Hun was getting there & close, but had he not seen Sang Woo did what he did, he wouldn’t have been a 100% killer.
BTW, we sound like Siskel & Ebert here!
Yes that is indeed his brother
6:27, ur shirt matches their uniform color lol
the great Lee Byung-hun. phenomenal actor.
I’d for sure play hunger games over squid game. You have way better odds in hunger games. Not only are there more people to have to beat in squid game, but you also have pure luck as a factor at some points.
brother twist still makes no sense
I felt the same way when the girl had that shard of glass in her abdomen…wtf? Why did the powers that be have to blow up the last of the glass walkway and end up having a contestant mortally wounded as a casualty of the blow up? I called foul on that. Didn’t seem to abide by the rules. I still wonder about that. Did I miss something?
The «ideology of fairness» is a sham and it always has been. Maybe the frontman believes genuinely that he is making it as fair as possible but he is kidding himself.
Hair’s lookin luscious homes
They weren't trying to be pretty with the explosion of glass. If you didn't finish in time what better way to kill the rest off?
Guys pls watch the mist it's so good
yes, that was his brother lol
You called his brother!
Never see the detectives body so…..season 2 reappearance?
He's gonna swim with one arm functioning?
i was extremely upset when she died.
You asked whether we'd play Hunger Games or Squid Games, and I'd choose Hunger Games, because at least in that one you're playing to benefit others. In Squid games, you're there to benefit yourself (helping family members not withstanding).
I mean, having seen quite a few Korean Thrillers and just, movies, in general, As soon as the detective mentioned his brother was missing I assumed the front man was his brother. I actually said it out loud during the first(?) episode:P. It's just such a trope, and as the episodes went on it just seemed to keep inching towards proving it..
Not the strongest plot of the show, same as the VIP akwardness/terrible acting/writing. But still an enjoyable show non the less (with another big gaping issue being my major issue with the show as a whole, but wount spoil it at this point)
Nothing is ever fair. You could trip and fall and take a bullet meant for someone else. Nothing personal.
Gotta watch alpha dog!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Id rather do Hunger games.
Bloody steaks and knives--blech.
I mean to be true, the ideologie is weak and not so deep but you are right. It goes against there ideologie for sure.
I kind of see it like the honeycomb game and tug of war where it’s about luck of the draw. Any 3 of them, or all of them, could’ve been impaled and she was the unlucky one.
I'd rather Hunger Games definitely 😬 Squid Games is so chaotic
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I agree that the VIPs were one of the weakest parts of the show. In an effort to make them seem like insensitive douchebags, the writers made them one-dimensional and shallow characters. It also didn't help that the non-korean actors were B Level and below the quality of the korean cast.
Oh you coward, making us wait another week huh? *sobs*
Please reaction Korean movie「 New World」
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Pls watch arcane bruv
6:03 the more I think about, no it really doesn't go against the ideology! As a metaphor for capitalism, sometimes you're going to get fucked up like in a car wreck that wasn't your fault, and capitalism isn't going to do shit for you, you're just fucked