Pretty bogus that the port authority’s own pilots were key factors in the crash and they just sit back and say “well you didn’t have to listen to us” and put all the responsibility on the ship’s captain and proceed to sue them. Boooo.
Its an arabic country. Not losing face is the most important thing. So they make no mistakes, its always the fault of everyone else, and they know exactly who is to blame before it is even fully known what has happened. Its a regular pattern.
Legally speaking, they’re in the right to sue as it’s always the ship’s master responsible for the ship, even when a mandatory pilot is onboard Morally speaking though, what a massive “Fuck you” to logic
Yes,this.☝️ Talked to a customer at work who was the captain from one of the Deep Sea Tugs and he told us it was a giant mess and joke how the port autority handled this.
As a captain of a 330m long 60m wide Large crude tanker who transits suez canal regularly - 1. Suez Pilots are one of the most corrupt human species on earth. They have own ego against each others and ask the ship staff for anything from usd or coffee or anything. 2. High winds in suez canal is massively dangerous esp for large windage vessels like mega container ships. 3. The pilots and port authority need to train pilots better for these huge vessels or avoid transits during bad weather - but the severe commercial pressure changes everything. 4. Massive commercial pressure from liners ( containers ) has made life for us captains hell. The owners charterers want us to run as fast as we can, make ports as soon as we can and same applies to Suez Canal Authority. Frankly such huge vessels need detailed risk assessments on canal transits Thank you capt jd
I think the Suez Canal is to Egypt what oil is to other Arab states. A manmade (UK and French made) natural resource gotten for free and thus the inevitable corruption.
Suez canal pilot and port canal authority are both worse and corrupt. They much spend time asking valuables and money to ship crew rather than watch navigating safely in the canal.
The Egyptians claimed 900 million dollars? For what? The raising of the kursk took way more material and way more time and was done for 62.5 million! This video lasts almost an hour, interviews people and tells stories of unrelated ships and incidents, yet conveniently fails to mention that the eventual success of the salvage operation was largely due to Dutch company Smit Boskalis. Why, BBC? Why?
The ship was under the command of an Egyptian pilot. He was responsible for the collision. The Egyptians should’ve paid for the re-floating and the ship’s owners should’ve sued the Egyptians. That country is run on a system of ‘baksheesh” or bribery. The Suez pilots demand cartons and cartons of cigarettes to do their job. Corruption in Egypt is endemic.
Exactly, the Suez Canal Authority wanted it to be done by Egyptians. It didn’t budge then. Along came Boskalis with two giant seafaring tugs and other equipment and hey presto: done and dusted. It’s a disgrace this isn’t mentioned, perhaps as a result of risking Egyptian pride and them then not cooperating for this viddy…
The pilot having control while the captain has responsability is a real conflict that needs to be addressed. How can a captain be expected to shoulder the responsability of taking back control "if they don't feel things are right" when they themselves are supposed to be trusting someone who is understood to be the expert in that situation? If I'm fixing someones PC they have an inherent trust that I know what I'm doing because they obviously don't (otherwise they would be doing it themselves), Sure they can tell me to stop at any point but if they don't themselves know what I'm doing or why...... how would they have any idea to stop me? A pilot saying to go faster to gain more control and ANOTHER pilot saying to go slower so the have more time to respond can BOTH be right and when faced with 2 right options you can't blame the captain for allowing an *expert* to do either. For all we know in an alternative universe the even given was stuck for several weeks after the wind blow it under than bank, followed by hearings and interviews asking why didn't they simply speed up? Responsibility lies with those issuing orders, if the captain decides to retake command and sideline the pilot *then* they bear responsability, not before. "the instructions given by the pilots to the captain are for gudance" horseshit, the orders are given to the helmsman, plain and simple
isn't that everywhere? I do not know. Like a friend's dad is a pilot and he always came back with cartons. I really thought it was customary, though old-school. Maybe give 'em vapes next time 🤣🤣
The man in charge of the Suez Canal sees the largest ship in the world beached and says "we realised it would be difficult to float this ship". If there was a Nobel prize for understatement, he would have got it.
So the incompetent pilots crashed the ship, the Port Authority screwed around with a bunch of ineffective diggers until finally Smit Boskalis (dutch) had to come in from half way across the world and get the ship out. Then the Egyptians tried to talk themselves out of responsibility and blackmailed the owners to pay 900 million for their incompetence.
And then the ship owners screwed the kitchen guy to pay 25.000 dollars as a ransom fee, I think it is the ship owners and insurance companies responsibility to pay not the kitchen guy.
I’ve been through the suez several times and there are always Egyptian pilots on board who have total control of the ship whilst traversing the canal, I do not see how the suez authorities can demand compensation
And they managed to clean up quite nicely. The cost involved to call out tugs and dredgers for four days isnt going to amount to millions and the ship owners passing the buck onto its customers, I.e., the people whose cargo was on board was a real *iss take. Everybody cleaned up except the customer. It's bullying on a grand scale. Yes, nothing Egyption was to blame, not even having a pokey too narrow canal not even for not stopping all shipping from entering untill the wind died down - because, like an aeroplane, if you have a strong cross wind then you need to have a drift angle to deal with it, meaning you need to turn into wind by X number of degrees,this alone would cause the bow to be heard the bank and the stern to be near the other bank, should the wind drop without warning then you're head for the nearest bank, should the wind increase then you have to I crease the drift angle, should you try to reduce speed then the wind will take you where it wants to. A 40 knot wind blowing against such a massive side of a ship and containers is a very powerful and relentless force, drop the wind suddenly and the kinetic energy, inertia will cause a trajectory which is interesting and random - like the bow pointing one way and the ship going off in another direction. There are no brakes but there are bow thrusters but the complex resultant direction will continue because of the weight. F=MA as you all know.
Those Egyptian forkers held the ship at ransom for 6 months, without a care of the frustration everyone else arnd the world was going through??🤦🏽♂️No worse than pirates. Some small/fledgling businesses probably went under. Also, that was extortonist from the shipping company. $25,000 unforeseen fees. Bloody hell!
Ask yourself this: If this was simply piracy, why have the Egyptian authorities never done this before or since? What was really on that ship, and who really owns that Taiwanese company?
All credit to Dutch company Smit Salvage under the wings of Boskalis that came up with the solution plan and pulled it off, pun intended ... yes the same people who lifted the Kursk submarine from the ocean floor and with many more of incredible feats on their account.
A ships captain is legally in command of his vessel, but in fact it is controlled by several exterior circomstances like: weather, economic pressures (own company, charter parties etc), local authorities and their "pilots (except Panama canal). This documentary showes well that every side is cleaning their own porch. SCA should not have granted the passage of this size ship with these weather conditions, but also their should be tugs accompaniing the ship during the passage (their own regulations). So SCA had a big part in the crash. NB. Smit Salvage (Boskalis) still is not fully paid for the salvage job!!
Many falls under this: An "Act of God" is generally defined as a sudden, unexpected, and unavoidable manifestation of the forces of nature. Federal and state law establish that a shipper cannot prevail in a freight claim against a carrier if an "Act of God" caused the loss, damage, or delay at issue". Which is probably what that Italian captain of the Costa Concordia claimed initially. Even when he wouldn't be captain, he was skipping waiting lines like George from Seinfeld when there's a children's party but fire breaks out and he rushes through, throwing them to the side and stuff.
This entire case is just a nonsense. Think of it like air traffic control - the captain of the plane is in charge of the plane and they are responsible for its safety. However when ATC tells an aircraft to run, climb, descend, speed up or slow down - do you think the captain of the plane is allowed to decide he doesn't want to follow those rules? Of course not - he would be sanctioned and potentially investigated. So it goes with the Suez - the captain is in charge of the ship but while he transits the canal, he must obey the commands of the pilot - thats what the pilot is there for! This nonsense about "its the captain's right to chose to follow the pilot's orders or not' is just face-saving, money grubbing bullshit.
Egypt is corrupt but also the ship owners screwed the kitchen guy to pay 25.000 dollars as a ransom fee, I think it is the ship owners and insurance companies responsibility to pay not the kitchen guy.
Best part comes at the end: the cargo owners were billed by the ship's company the cost of repairing their mistake and even being 4 months behind the schedule WTF !!!!
The cargo owner would not have needed to pay the $25k if he had purchased cargo insurance. That's that lesson for anyone who buys or sends their good via ocean - buy maritime insurance! It's very cheap.
Those corrupted port authorities seized on the opportunity to rort money out of the ship's owner. They already milk so much money from passing ships daily and send in useless pilots to control the ships, but refuse to accept responsibility. What a con.
I hope the Suez Port Authority that were paid millions (that was undisclosed) from the Shipping Company paid the Family of the Dead Sailor some of those millions.
Just amazing! I, like everyone else watched this drama unfold. Thank God it was not worse. It could have been like a car pile-up on a freeway. But the news didn’t ever tell you the reason the Evergreen crashed. Great documentary, thanks so much!!
I am a maritime engineer ( people prefer us sailors). But there are 2 departments in a ship, those who work on the desk are called sailors. Those who do maintainance and repairness jobs make sure the main engine working properly during the trip are called engineerers. There only about 20 to 22 people on a ship eating, working together from 4 months to 6 months. The life of a sailors are really difficult but also rewarding because you have chances to travel the world. Despite a lot of difficulties I still love my job and I have been trying my best to reach first engine officer.
@@minhtue5274 Because wages and conditions are by western standards not worth it. Traveling the world? You mean traveling the world oceans...whilst never leaving once ship?
This documentary is far too favorable to the Egyptians. It was their fault the ship ran aground, and it was a Dutch company that actually freed it, not the Egyptians. There are lots of lovely people in Egypt, but in the time I spent there I was shocked at how corrupt and incompetent the authorities are. I was involved in a railway accident that eventually turned into a riot because of the poor response of the rail authority. The country is an absolute disaster and I will never visit again, it is a profoundly broken place.
46:00 A SF Bay pilot. One these fellows directed a ship into allision with the SF Bay Bridge in a fog. The damage was compounded by the fact that he was going too fast in conditions with no visibility. The Master should have refused to proceed above bare steerageway. The notion that the Pilot is in in charge is wrong. The Master is in charge of his ship and should not accept reckless advice from a pilit.
That's messed up that the Suez Canal Authority insists their pilots be used, yet they assume none of the responsibility despite the fact that (this is not mentioned in the documentary for whatever reason) THEIR pilots were bickering on the bridge, giving erratic instructions to the helmsman, AND the shipping company charged the cargo recipients fees to release the cargo to cover the cost. The customer should not be the one paying, as they had no representation in the settlement between the Suez Canal Authority and Evergreen. I work repairing forklifts, and the "just in time" method of inventory management has been HORRIFIC especially during the pandemic. While I understand the merits of it, the fact that something as simple as ship getting stuck can literally crash a world economy shows the inherent flaws of it.
Egypt should be ashamed, for not taking responsibly. The Canal Authority is copping out here badly, their leaders are less than a men. Real leaders and men take responsibility. @55:43 his argument is extremely poor. He should resign in shame, he is embarrassing the Canal Authority and his country, they communicated in Arabic, and now blame the Captain. With that attitude it doesn't surprise me that Egypt has never become a force to be recommend with on the global stage. My country South Africa, with half their population has an economy bigger than that of Egypts (and South Africa, is nothing to write home about, how bad is Egypts leadership then). As always - leadership failure.
"Container ships have tripled in size since the 1950s" No... They have tripled in LENGTH. The newest container ships are over 30 times larger ( 214000 GT vs 5800 GT) and take 30 times as many containers (25000 compared to 800) .
The Suez Canal was built in the 19th century for relatively tiny ships. It's the equivalent of a single-carriageway A-road. If there are 2 pinch-points for nearly all marine traffic around the world, both of these either need to be widened into motorways, with at least 3 "lanes" in either direction (making both the Suez and Panama Canals 6 times wider); or the age of megaships needs to be curtailed, with such ships barred from either canal and having to go round. This is usually fine for the Cape of Good Hope but Cape Horn in the sub-Antarctic presents its own dangers.
After watching the documentary I have realized that the reason could be the pulling factor of the canal walls. When water is pressured between the vessel and the canal wall, there is a pull towards the wall. In fact, once this happens it is quite difficult to get out of it. Looks like the ship first pulled toward starboard and then to port and looses control. I had the same effect on my boat while navigating the canals in Netherland and as you try to correct you move to the opposite side. A risky situation and needs a lot of fine handling and patience… No jerky moves. Just for curiosity, were the bow and stern trusters active during the passage? That might be the only way to get out of this situation, using them very delicately..
As always, BBC / little englanders fail to mention that both Ever Given and Modern Express were salvaged by the Dutch with highly advanced calculations, big sea equipement and heroic operations. In the later case one man was injured while fixing the tow on the Modern Express in high seas just in time before the French coast came close.
Yeah, Sues charges crazy amounts of money for transit and what did they have? An Incompetent mandatory pilot and One or two excavators trying to dig out this ship LOL Abd what they didn't know that wind was coming? Greed, lets push these ships through all about the $$$ I think the Suez should have paid for the entire thing! What a joke. And for the record I felt no delays in anything I was buying, it's just all a bs way of raising pricess for some companies.
@@lornes7526 Because the Suez authorities are useless and claim no responsibility but all the credit for cleaning it up. When in fact, they were the reason this mess happened, they allowed those ships to go through despite of bad weather with their mandatory pilots and than had absolutely no resources to deal with the outcome.
the only way to avoid when passing a severe storm in Bay of Biscay is not to push the ship all along the way ... take evasive actions turn back find a safe refuge and or avoid the storm with severe winds; inform stake all stake holders that delays would be less expensive rather than capsizing.... when passing Suez canal on such huge vessel with lots of windage - have tugs boat escorts tied on both ends ... there would expenses for tug services rather than huge amount of expenses to remove grounded vessel in the Suez Canal ... stake holders would be happy for Master's decisions... on this case pilot is also a part of the accident and held also responsible ....
at 21:34 the narrator says the "Ever Given was ment to unload it's cargo in Rotterdam and Felixstowe" in the graphic showed at 21:38 it seems that the huge ship must split in 2 te be able to do that, so this graphic is unclear
I know nothing about ships,but why did the guy who had the kitchen company have to pay $25000 to have his goods released buy the shipping company?It was for sure nothing to do with him,the grounding of the ship!!!
Are you sure you're confident enough to just mention morals? And even compare yours with ours? Especially with what's happening right now in the middle east?
@@m7dtbh580 of course I am confident enough to say that “not all cultures are the same and who am I to pass judgement?” Nothing controversial there,,,,
@@dbcooper7326 "a fortune"? Why are people always angry with workers and never angry with the billionaires who surround themselves with difficult to trace protections and NO Liability at all!? Their names aren't even mentioned in the "News" yet they OWN the ship and persistently cut costs, always in the name of growing their profits.
Pilots are used because each is supposed to be well familiar with the changing conditions of the Canal and they make several passes in the Suez each workday versus a captain familiar with the ship but not the Suez...
There's no way that pilot should ever have been allowed to pilot on those medications. On one of the other ships. They are literally specified to not operate machinery or drive on. Let alone handling thousands of ton of ship. Secondly in the case of the ever given it is ridiculous that a captain is still technically in charge and meant to take over from the pilot if he deems danger to the ship. If the captain knew the area. Therefore knowing the risks to assess when the ship is in danger. Then he would not need a pilot! If the pilot is making orders the pilot and the pilot only should be taking the role of captain for the area that requires a pilot. You cannot put this on a captain to gauge if the pilot is doing his job correctly. The captain doesn't know. That's why there is a pilot. Absurd.
This is an excellent documentary of not only the Ever Given but also history of other shipping incidents that help put a bigger picture of the dangers in shipping. This also discussed the role of the pilot and who has authority. Well done.
Being a ship's pilot is a huge responsibility and liability. Ships are hard to handle and don't always do what you want. This is worse in tight quarters due to the hydrodynamic effects of the water passing by the hull. Weather and sea conditions play their part too. The world's economy is predicated on the cheap ocean transportation of goods and that is not going to change. On the Ever Given the pilots made steering errors and tried to correct with more speed. A simple 10 second error piloting and your aground. Going to sea for a living is not the easy way though life.
Nah, its entirely the SCA's responsibility - they fucked up and then they had the balls to try to make some money out of it. Just classic money grubbing Egyptians.
Egyption pilots harasses ship captains . Suez canal authority extorts shipping companies. Same is in tourism industry. Almost every TH-camr visiting egypt has told negatively abt Egyptians. Egyptian should change their attitude towards foreigners. We as tourist can avoid Egypt easily. Even if shipping companies cant avoid Egyptians
That El Faro "Captain" got them all killed. His ego killed my friend Danielle.... and Dylan, who was only 23 and was also from the town I lived in when this happened. I'll see you in hell Davidson!!
The real question is finding out who has planned that temporary blockage. Look for who gained the most from the blockade, blackrock, vanguard, etc etc.
If the two sets of pilots were communicating in Arabic, its little wonder WHY there was "miscommunication" on the bridge. Isn't there an INTERNATIONAL standard requirement for all communications to be in English??
The delay was felt in many places. A package I was waiting for got held back 14 days or so, because of the incident. We saw the same just recently when storms and floods damaged a train bridge and some stretches of roads, causing some mediicines to be delayed a week.
that's why you buy locally produced. that and being good to your fellow nationals. messing up globalists sweet dreams of having a world goverment, with only one world company producing everything.
Brilliant question! It was just glossed over...but I think that's hugely fraudulent action by the ship owner. I suppose he knew he could ask a ransom fee, because people were desperate for their goods. Ship owner also wanted to recuperate costs after being snaked by the Egyptian port authority.
Absolutely bizarre that Joe Businessman in the UK with cargo on the ship has to pay what amounts to ransom of $25,000 to get his cargo back. Is there such a thing as shipping insurance that can cover this potential peril?
That was blackmail, the cargo was not damaged or lost at sea so he should not have paid and still got his cargo, as a business owner he probably would have had insurance on the shipping anyway In the Netherlands the shipping company would never have been able to extort you for money on cargo that is legally yours.
What is this be about a hypothesis after the data has been analysed. Isn't a hypothesis actually before that step. Also as the ships have those transponders which records everything, it should be very clear what happened.
Got me in, well, so did the doco, but this young engineer, a 2nd Assistant Engineer, on the ship behind, the Maersk Denver, took the first photo of the Ever Given blocking the canal and went viral. love the references here to the Marlboro Canal.
It is absurd to say that the Captain is ultimately in charge in a situation where there is a competent Pilot on board provided by the Port Authority to guide the vessel through waters that the Pilot is more familiar with than the Captain. It is absurd because from the commentary it is clear that the Captain can take charge if he doubts the capabilities of the Pilot BUT he risks shouldering the blame in the event of a mishap. Does he have an option at all?
So the pilots can crash the ships and just walk away saying it’s nothing to do with them? If that’s the case it would benefit every canal authority to crash a ship now and then just to hold the owners to ransom.
ridiculous having Captain give up control to the pilots but take full responsibility and liability for their actions. Then don't even bother having the pilots the captain can steer his own ship if he's going to be held liable anyway. I think the pilots are responsible but the Egyptians are money hungry
The canal is narrower at the bottom, but the ship is way too big, the canal in my opinion should be at least a mile wide, for windy weather, it the Egyptian government fault for not building the canal wide enough, and they prove that they know this by not being responsible for the Marlboro captain or pirates who they require to be on the ship, maybe all canals this important should be owned by the UNITED NATION, and rent paid to Egypt in cigarettes
Ever tried offloading 20,000 containers in the middle of the desert with no roads, when you cannot get through on the waterway with ships to load the containers onto because there’s a gigantic traffic jam there?
@@flybywire5866indeed, that plan was already being worked on by the salvage company Smit Boskalis who actually ran this salvage from day 4, not the Egyptians.
31.26 That is totally inconclusive. So what she is saying is that high winds blew the ship over. In other words the wind blew her over to around 35 degrees and she just stayed there. Was she on the bottom? Did she take on water? Or did her cargo shift? Why did she not right herself? There is a point beyond which a vessel will just flop over and lie on her side, but given the position she was in she had not reached that critical point. So what happened ?
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The pilots in in suez have a bad reputation. It's not for mothing it's called malboro canal for nothing
Clear message that the Suez Port Authority has no honor and cannot be trusted.
would you expect anything else form a bunch of sandy Egyptians?
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Just ask the Israelis....never trust an Arab!
No port authorities can be
Pretty bogus that the port authority’s own pilots were key factors in the crash and they just sit back and say “well you didn’t have to listen to us” and put all the responsibility on the ship’s captain and proceed to sue them. Boooo.
Its an arabic country. Not losing face is the most important thing. So they make no mistakes, its always the fault of everyone else, and they know exactly who is to blame before it is even fully known what has happened. Its a regular pattern.
What if his family didn't want people to know
Legally speaking, they’re in the right to sue as it’s always the ship’s master responsible for the ship, even when a mandatory pilot is onboard
Morally speaking though, what a massive “Fuck you” to logic
Was just abt to say it's so typically Arab then boom, an earlier poster mentioned it. Pretty shitty tbh 🚮🚮
You forgot to mention WATER IS WET
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Glad the unrivaled Dutch 🇳🇱 expertise in salvaging did the job again!
Yes,this.☝️
Talked to a customer at work who was the captain from one of the Deep Sea Tugs and he told us it was a giant mess and joke how the port autority handled this.
As a captain of a 330m long 60m wide Large crude tanker who transits suez canal regularly -
1. Suez Pilots are one of the most corrupt human species on earth. They have own ego against each others and ask the ship staff for anything from usd or coffee or anything.
2. High winds in suez canal is massively dangerous esp for large windage vessels like mega container ships.
3. The pilots and port authority need to train pilots better for these huge vessels or avoid transits during bad weather - but the severe commercial pressure changes everything.
4. Massive commercial pressure from liners ( containers ) has made life for us captains hell. The owners charterers want us to run as fast as we can, make ports as soon as we can and same applies to Suez Canal Authority. Frankly such huge vessels need detailed risk assessments on canal transits
Thank you capt jd
I think the Suez Canal is to Egypt what oil is to other Arab states. A manmade (UK and French made) natural resource gotten for free and thus the inevitable corruption.
Suez canal pilot and port canal authority are both worse and corrupt. They much spend time asking valuables and money to ship crew rather than watch navigating safely in the canal.
yup should just turn that sand into glass
Do as we say until something goes wrong and then no matter what it’s your fault and then we are going to blackmail you. Sounds right Egyptians?
Remember taquiyya.
The Egyptians claimed 900 million dollars? For what? The raising of the kursk took way more material and way more time and was done for 62.5 million!
This video lasts almost an hour, interviews people and tells stories of unrelated ships and incidents, yet conveniently fails to mention that the eventual success of the salvage operation was largely due to Dutch company Smit Boskalis. Why, BBC? Why?
The ship was under the command of an Egyptian pilot. He was responsible for the collision. The Egyptians should’ve paid for the re-floating and the ship’s owners should’ve sued the Egyptians. That country is run on a system of ‘baksheesh” or bribery. The Suez pilots demand cartons and cartons of cigarettes to do their job. Corruption in Egypt is endemic.
And it was the Suez Canal's 'pilots' who screwed up. The SCA refused to participate in the investigation.
The BBC is not the professional organisation it was. I tend to switch off a little especially when they resort to using so called 'US experts'!
Exactly, the Suez Canal Authority wanted it to be done by Egyptians. It didn’t budge then. Along came Boskalis with two giant seafaring tugs and other equipment and hey presto: done and dusted. It’s a disgrace this isn’t mentioned, perhaps as a result of risking Egyptian pride and them then not cooperating for this viddy…
Where are the other replys I can only see two (2)?
The pilot having control while the captain has responsability is a real conflict that needs to be addressed.
How can a captain be expected to shoulder the responsability of taking back control "if they don't feel things are right" when they themselves are supposed to be trusting someone who is understood to be the expert in that situation?
If I'm fixing someones PC they have an inherent trust that I know what I'm doing because they obviously don't (otherwise they would be doing it themselves), Sure they can tell me to stop at any point but if they don't themselves know what I'm doing or why...... how would they have any idea to stop me?
A pilot saying to go faster to gain more control and ANOTHER pilot saying to go slower so the have more time to respond can BOTH be right and when faced with 2 right options you can't blame the captain for allowing an *expert* to do either.
For all we know in an alternative universe the even given was stuck for several weeks after the wind blow it under than bank, followed by hearings and interviews asking why didn't they simply speed up?
Responsibility lies with those issuing orders, if the captain decides to retake command and sideline the pilot *then* they bear responsability, not before.
"the instructions given by the pilots to the captain are for gudance"
horseshit, the orders are given to the helmsman, plain and simple
Completely Egypt and the pilot's fault. They should be jailed for not being held accountable
in the super yacht industry we call it the Marlboro canal. pilot boats and pilots all get cartons of Marlboro smokes or they won't lift a finger
isn't that everywhere? I do not know. Like a friend's dad is a pilot and he always came back with cartons. I really thought it was customary, though old-school. Maybe give 'em vapes next time 🤣🤣
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My brother is a captain... He says the same thing... Egyptians... Come on board and ask for smokes... 😂
The man in charge of the Suez Canal sees the largest ship in the world beached and says "we realised it would be difficult to float this ship". If there was a Nobel prize for understatement, he would have got it.
So the incompetent pilots crashed the ship, the Port Authority screwed around with a bunch of ineffective diggers until finally Smit Boskalis (dutch) had to come in from half way across the world and get the ship out. Then the Egyptians tried to talk themselves out of responsibility and blackmailed the owners to pay 900 million for their incompetence.
well you can do what the egyptians did because your the only game in town..no other way to go really..what do you do, give them what they want...
@@highlanderthegreat Go the other direction.
@@ktrimbach5771 what direction would that be???
Perfect summary.
And then the ship owners screwed the kitchen guy to pay 25.000 dollars as a ransom fee, I think it is the ship owners and insurance companies responsibility to pay not the kitchen guy.
I’ve been through the suez several times and there are always Egyptian pilots on board who have total control of the ship whilst traversing the canal, I do not see how the suez authorities can demand compensation
Its so clearly the Suez pilot's fault. The Egyptians aren't knowledgeable enough to get the job done, they should have called for help sooner.
The pilot is in charge of navigation and speed. Therefore this accident is the pilots fault. End of story.🤔
Pretty clear that the Egyptians won't take responsibility for their part of what happened
Or the Chinese for that matter😂
And they managed to clean up quite nicely. The cost involved to call out tugs and dredgers for four days isnt going to amount to millions and the ship owners passing the buck onto its customers, I.e., the people whose cargo was on board was a real *iss take.
Everybody cleaned up except the customer. It's bullying on a grand scale. Yes, nothing Egyption was to blame, not even having a pokey too narrow canal not even for not stopping all shipping from entering untill the wind died down - because, like an aeroplane, if you have a strong cross wind then you need to have a drift angle to deal with it, meaning you need to turn into wind by X number of degrees,this alone would cause the bow to be heard the bank and the stern to be near the other bank, should the wind drop without warning then you're head for the nearest bank, should the wind increase then you have to I crease the drift angle, should you try to reduce speed then the wind will take you where it wants to. A 40 knot wind blowing against such a massive side of a ship and containers is a very powerful and relentless force, drop the wind suddenly and the kinetic energy, inertia will cause a trajectory which is interesting and random - like the bow pointing one way and the ship going off in another direction. There are no brakes but there are bow thrusters but the complex resultant direction will continue because of the weight. F=MA as you all know.
@@a320nicksuddenly physics lesson
A very nice job with this documentary. I was 'sold' as soon as I saw Dr. Sal!!
Subscribed, liked.
It’s just a bbc episode they put up - where’s the value
Those Egyptian forkers held the ship at ransom for 6 months, without a care of the frustration everyone else arnd the world was going through??🤦🏽♂️No worse than pirates.
Some small/fledgling businesses probably went under. Also, that was extortonist from the shipping company. $25,000 unforeseen fees. Bloody hell!
Ask yourself this: If this was simply piracy, why have the Egyptian authorities never done this before or since? What was really on that ship, and who really owns that Taiwanese company?
@@thewatchman6074 There was no comment about it although I remember them having to take containers off the ship to try and lighten the load.
this particular ship may have evergreen stamped on it, but it is owned by japanese company Shoei Kisen Kaisha.@@thewatchman6074
All credit to Dutch company Smit Salvage under the wings of Boskalis that came up with the solution plan and pulled it off, pun intended ... yes the same people who lifted the Kursk submarine from the ocean floor and with many more of incredible feats on their account.
What I loved most was the 106-horsepower farm tractor trying to pull it.
A ships captain is legally in command of his vessel, but in fact it is controlled by several exterior circomstances like: weather, economic pressures (own company, charter parties etc), local authorities and their "pilots (except Panama canal). This documentary showes well that every side is cleaning their own porch. SCA should not have granted the passage of this size ship with these weather conditions, but also their should be tugs accompaniing the ship during the passage (their own regulations). So SCA had a big part in the crash.
NB. Smit Salvage (Boskalis) still is not fully paid for the salvage job!!
Many falls under this: An "Act of God" is generally defined as a sudden, unexpected, and unavoidable manifestation of the forces of nature. Federal and state law establish that a shipper cannot prevail in a freight claim against a carrier if an "Act of God" caused the loss, damage, or delay at issue". Which is probably what that Italian captain of the Costa Concordia claimed initially. Even when he wouldn't be captain, he was skipping waiting lines like George from Seinfeld when there's a children's party but fire breaks out and he rushes through, throwing them to the side and stuff.
This entire case is just a nonsense. Think of it like air traffic control - the captain of the plane is in charge of the plane and they are responsible for its safety. However when ATC tells an aircraft to run, climb, descend, speed up or slow down - do you think the captain of the plane is allowed to decide he doesn't want to follow those rules? Of course not - he would be sanctioned and potentially investigated. So it goes with the Suez - the captain is in charge of the ship but while he transits the canal, he must obey the commands of the pilot - thats what the pilot is there for! This nonsense about "its the captain's right to chose to follow the pilot's orders or not' is just face-saving, money grubbing bullshit.
@@dynamo1796 Absolutely! 🎯
Egypt is corrupt but also the ship owners screwed the kitchen guy to pay 25.000 dollars as a ransom fee, I think it is the ship owners and insurance companies responsibility to pay not the kitchen guy.
A major part of this video is about getting the ever afloat again. Then why isn't the company named which actually pulled this off?
Best part comes at the end: the cargo owners were billed by the ship's company the cost of repairing their mistake and even being 4 months behind the schedule WTF !!!!
The cargo owner would not have needed to pay the $25k if he had purchased cargo insurance. That's that lesson for anyone who buys or sends their good via ocean - buy maritime insurance! It's very cheap.
Someone please dial 911 The Dutch😎💪🤣
Those corrupted port authorities seized on the opportunity to rort money out of the ship's owner. They already milk so much money from passing ships daily and send in useless pilots to control the ships, but refuse to accept responsibility. What a con.
I hope the Suez Port Authority that were paid millions (that was undisclosed) from the Shipping Company paid the Family of the Dead Sailor some of those millions.
Just amazing! I, like everyone else watched this drama unfold. Thank God it was not worse.
It could have been like a car pile-up on a freeway. But the news didn’t ever tell you the reason the Evergreen crashed. Great documentary, thanks so much!!
@@Look_What_You_Did I don’t believe in God, it’s an expression of gratitude. Why you so touchy???
I am a maritime engineer ( people prefer us sailors). But there are 2 departments in a ship, those who work on the desk are called sailors. Those who do maintainance and repairness jobs make sure the main engine working properly during the trip are called engineerers. There only about 20 to 22 people on a ship eating, working together from 4 months to 6 months. The life of a sailors are really difficult but also rewarding because you have chances to travel the world. Despite a lot of difficulties I still love my job and I have been trying my best to reach first engine officer.
what you said makes no sense
Does the pay make the life worth it?
@@FactsFromFred why?
@@johnlocke_1 it is just higher than other jobs a little bit.
@@minhtue5274
Because wages and conditions are by western standards not worth it.
Traveling the world?
You mean traveling the world oceans...whilst never leaving once ship?
This documentary is far too favorable to the Egyptians. It was their fault the ship ran aground, and it was a Dutch company that actually freed it, not the Egyptians. There are lots of lovely people in Egypt, but in the time I spent there I was shocked at how corrupt and incompetent the authorities are. I was involved in a railway accident that eventually turned into a riot because of the poor response of the rail authority. The country is an absolute disaster and I will never visit again, it is a profoundly broken place.
46:00 A SF Bay pilot. One these fellows directed a ship into allision with the SF Bay Bridge in a fog. The damage was compounded by the fact that he was going too fast in conditions with no visibility. The Master should have refused to proceed above bare steerageway. The notion that the Pilot is in in charge is wrong. The Master is in charge of his ship and should not accept reckless advice from a pilit.
57:54 Sue the useless pilots for your loss.
That's messed up that the Suez Canal Authority insists their pilots be used, yet they assume none of the responsibility despite the fact that (this is not mentioned in the documentary for whatever reason) THEIR pilots were bickering on the bridge, giving erratic instructions to the helmsman, AND the shipping company charged the cargo recipients fees to release the cargo to cover the cost. The customer should not be the one paying, as they had no representation in the settlement between the Suez Canal Authority and Evergreen. I work repairing forklifts, and the "just in time" method of inventory management has been HORRIFIC especially during the pandemic. While I understand the merits of it, the fact that something as simple as ship getting stuck can literally crash a world economy shows the inherent flaws of it.
The man that died in the smaller boat capsizing should really have his name released. So many people would have sent his family money and cards. 💔
Egypt should be ashamed, for not taking responsibly. The Canal Authority is copping out here badly, their leaders are less than a men. Real leaders and men take responsibility. @55:43 his argument is extremely poor. He should resign in shame, he is embarrassing the Canal Authority and his country, they communicated in Arabic, and now blame the Captain. With that attitude it doesn't surprise me that Egypt has never become a force to be recommend with on the global stage. My country South Africa, with half their population has an economy bigger than that of Egypts (and South Africa, is nothing to write home about, how bad is Egypts leadership then). As always - leadership failure.
"Container ships have tripled in size since the 1950s" No... They have tripled in LENGTH. The newest container ships are over 30 times larger ( 214000 GT vs 5800 GT) and take 30 times as many containers (25000 compared to 800) .
The Suez Canal was built in the 19th century for relatively tiny ships. It's the equivalent of a single-carriageway A-road. If there are 2 pinch-points for nearly all marine traffic around the world, both of these either need to be widened into motorways, with at least 3 "lanes" in either direction (making both the Suez and Panama Canals 6 times wider); or the age of megaships needs to be curtailed, with such ships barred from either canal and having to go round. This is usually fine for the Cape of Good Hope but Cape Horn in the sub-Antarctic presents its own dangers.
fun fact the pilots that get onboard get payed with boxes cigarettes if there is no cigarettes onboard then no pilot will take you threw the canal
After watching the documentary I have realized that the reason could be the pulling factor of the canal walls. When water is pressured between the vessel and the canal wall, there is a pull towards the wall. In fact, once this happens it is quite difficult to get out of it. Looks like the ship first pulled toward starboard and then to port and looses control. I had the same effect on my boat while navigating the canals in Netherland and as you try to correct you move to the opposite side. A risky situation and needs a lot of fine handling and patience… No jerky moves.
Just for curiosity, were the bow and stern trusters active during the passage? That might be the only way to get out of this situation, using them very delicately..
Francesco explains it very well, I was too fast in my comment..
The Girl However seems Delighted by the Event 😂😂
Her dubious "fifteen minutes of fame". Don't know that I'd want to put that incident on my Resume, though...
Sex sells.
True dat 😂😂😂@@johncurcio3621
@@richardpchaseii5084 why? She was on the ship behind the Ever Given
I had issues with this show….oh ! it’s bbc ‘factual programming’.
You would think they would have considered the fact that this could and probably would eventually happen and have a plan in place to deal with it.
As always, BBC / little englanders fail to mention that both Ever Given and Modern Express were salvaged by the Dutch with highly advanced calculations, big sea equipement and heroic operations. In the later case one man was injured while fixing the tow on the Modern Express in high seas just in time before the French coast came close.
Yeah, Sues charges crazy amounts of money for transit and what did they have? An Incompetent mandatory pilot and One or two excavators trying to dig out this ship LOL Abd what they didn't know that wind was coming? Greed, lets push these ships through all about the $$$ I think the Suez should have paid for the entire thing! What a joke.
And for the record I felt no delays in anything I was buying, it's just all a bs way of raising pricess for some companies.
Why should they be mentioned? It's a job they got paid to do.
@@lornes7526 Because the Suez authorities are useless and claim no responsibility but all the credit for cleaning it up.
When in fact, they were the reason this mess happened, they allowed those ships to go through despite of bad weather with their mandatory pilots and than had absolutely no resources to deal with the outcome.
I knew something was off, Arabs aren't known for the best brains, they misguided the ship, crashed it and started a botched salvage operation.
BBC/Little Englanders? The BBc is so woke and anti England/U.K. I don't get the connection.
the only way to avoid when passing a severe storm in Bay of Biscay is not to push the ship all along the way ... take evasive actions turn back find a safe refuge and or avoid the storm with severe winds; inform stake all stake holders that delays would be less expensive rather than capsizing.... when passing Suez canal on such huge vessel with lots of windage - have tugs boat escorts tied on both ends ... there would expenses for tug services rather than huge amount of expenses to remove grounded vessel in the Suez Canal ... stake holders would be happy for Master's decisions... on this case pilot is also a part of the accident and held also responsible ....
at 21:34 the narrator says the "Ever Given was ment to unload it's cargo in Rotterdam and Felixstowe" in the graphic showed at 21:38 it seems that the huge ship must split in 2 te be able to do that, so this graphic is unclear
I know nothing about ships,but why did the guy who had the kitchen company have to pay $25000 to have his goods released buy the shipping company?It was for sure nothing to do with him,the grounding of the ship!!!
That is blackmail in the UK.
@@apaijmans You are right on that one!!
As a White Western Man there is NOTHING I can say about Middle Eastern culture and moral bearing. But it is what it is,,,,,,
Are you sure you're confident enough to just mention morals? And even compare yours with ours? Especially with what's happening right now in the middle east?
@@m7dtbh580 of course I am confident enough to say that “not all cultures are the same and who am I to pass judgement?” Nothing controversial there,,,,
It makes you wonder the overall benefit of the pilots when it's always going to be the captain's responsibility.
They get paid a fortune and carry no responsibility.
@@dbcooper7326 "a fortune"? Why are people always angry with workers and never angry with the billionaires who surround themselves with difficult to trace protections and NO Liability at all!? Their names aren't even mentioned in the "News" yet they OWN the ship and persistently cut costs, always in the name of growing their profits.
Pilots are used because each is supposed to be well familiar with the changing conditions of the Canal and they make several passes in the Suez each workday versus a captain familiar with the ship but not the Suez...
To big jet tv Jerry Dyer good video nice to see this 747 from your number one fan Peter ✋️👍✈️
There's no way that pilot should ever have been allowed to pilot on those medications. On one of the other ships.
They are literally specified to not operate machinery or drive on. Let alone handling thousands of ton of ship.
Secondly in the case of the ever given it is ridiculous that a captain is still technically in charge and meant to take over from the pilot if he deems danger to the ship.
If the captain knew the area. Therefore knowing the risks to assess when the ship is in danger. Then he would not need a pilot!
If the pilot is making orders the pilot and the pilot only should be taking the role of captain for the area that requires a pilot.
You cannot put this on a captain to gauge if the pilot is doing his job correctly.
The captain doesn't know. That's why there is a pilot.
Absurd.
One of the dire consequences of the Ever Given blockage was that England ran completely out of garden gnomes.
Did they have enough pink flamingos in stock, to compensate?
This is an excellent documentary of not only the Ever Given but also history of other shipping incidents that help put a bigger picture of the dangers in shipping. This also discussed the role of the pilot and who has authority. Well done.
I love that the captain is in charge of the ship end of. Even when he’s asleep 😂😂😂
Being a ship's pilot is a huge responsibility and liability. Ships are hard to handle and don't always do what you want. This is worse in tight quarters due to the hydrodynamic effects of the water passing by the hull. Weather and sea conditions play their part too. The world's economy is predicated on the cheap ocean transportation of goods and that is not going to change. On the Ever Given the pilots made steering errors and tried to correct with more speed. A simple 10 second error piloting and your aground. Going to sea for a living is not the easy way though life.
Nah, its entirely the SCA's responsibility - they fucked up and then they had the balls to try to make some money out of it. Just classic money grubbing Egyptians.
Give me a break! That is these guys JOB! They *better* know all the hydrodynamic effects of traversing a canal or they DESERVE to get sued!
What was the responsibility of the Sue’s Canal Pilot and was any blame apportioned to him?
How about the Pilots on board..??
All ATC and pilots speak English for safety. Evey one on the bridge of ships should be on the same page.
Technically we are, you need to pass a test in maritime
@@ermining1 Do they?
@@bigbob1699 legally you have to. I've never worked with people who don't have a working level.
I had a stroke trying to make sense of the title
10:52 what is that memorial in the foreground?
So, pretty much the Egyptians blamed everyone except themselves. Excellent...
Egyption pilots harasses ship captains . Suez canal authority extorts shipping companies.
Same is in tourism industry. Almost every TH-camr visiting egypt has told negatively abt Egyptians.
Egyptian should change their attitude towards foreigners.
We as tourist can avoid Egypt easily. Even if shipping companies cant avoid Egyptians
This was an amazing engineering project to sort this out. Well done folks 🤘😎🤘But let’s not forget the sailor who lost his life RIP 🙏❤️
Excellent reportage!
That El Faro "Captain" got them all killed. His ego killed my friend Danielle.... and Dylan, who was only 23 and was also from the town I lived in when this happened. I'll see you in hell Davidson!!
The real question is finding out who has planned that temporary blockage. Look for who gained the most from the blockade, blackrock, vanguard, etc etc.
What a stupid conspiracy theory. Dont be dumb.
Please adjust your tinfoil-hat...
@@adiaz2494 did you suggest that adjustment for the now confirmed Hunter lap top and Ukraine/Chinese/Russia kick backs for the Biden family?
Excellent question
If the two sets of pilots were communicating in Arabic, its little wonder WHY there was "miscommunication" on the bridge. Isn't there an INTERNATIONAL standard requirement for all communications to be in English??
Evergreen has built a new ship, it's powered by electricity. It's named the Ever Ready.
And?
What does that have to do with the topic at matter, the Ever Given?
@@jonsen2kWoosh
The delay was felt in many places. A package I was waiting for got held back 14 days or so, because of the incident. We saw the same just recently when storms and floods damaged a train bridge and some stretches of roads, causing some mediicines to be delayed a week.
that's why you buy locally produced. that and being good to your fellow nationals. messing up globalists sweet dreams of having a world goverment, with only one world company producing everything.
These things are simply too big & the waterway is too small...
Why the hell were businessess asked to pay for the salvage??!!
Brilliant question! It was just glossed over...but I think that's hugely fraudulent action by the ship owner. I suppose he knew he could ask a ransom fee, because people were desperate for their goods. Ship owner also wanted to recuperate costs after being snaked by the Egyptian port authority.
Absolutely bizarre that Joe Businessman in the UK with cargo on the ship has to pay what amounts to ransom of $25,000 to get his cargo back. Is there such a thing as shipping insurance that can cover this potential peril?
That was blackmail, the cargo was not damaged or lost at sea so he should not have paid and still got his cargo, as a business owner he probably would have had insurance on the shipping anyway In the Netherlands the shipping company would never have been able to extort you for money on cargo that is legally yours.
The BBC managed too keep the Dutch influence out of this story again.
Envy is the anglo saxons own.
@@3pan1 yours must be absolutely ignorance.
@@markvanderknoop131je zal het nu over jezelf hebben; ik was het met je eens idioot
What is this be about a hypothesis after the data has been analysed. Isn't a hypothesis actually before that step. Also as the ships have those transponders which records everything, it should be very clear what happened.
The ship was being commanded by an Egyptian in the canal. It's the fault of Egypt and they should have paid for this mess
Juliann is quite.....fetching.
she has one of the best looking engine rooms at sea
5:14 very smart to use her in the thumbnail. 👍
Too many chiefs (pilots) and not enough Indians. Egyptian authorities 100% responsible
BBC forgot to mention the Dutch did the job... Brexit fans?
What happen to the clown that ran it aground. They call him or her the captain most of the time.
Over 25k human trafficking victims were killed inside some of those containers. It was intentional.
Plus all the other items the sheep are unaware of which were also on the Ever Given
Why would they intentionally kill trafficking victims?
@@ktrimbach5771 because that ship was gonna be searched when it made it to the end. Killary Clinton would kill you for a laugh 😂
Proof?
@@richw2900 it was all over the net before the CIA bot wiped it
Let's make a documentary of a ship, and choose a cute girl for the thumbnail image. 😀
Got me in, well, so did the doco, but this young engineer, a 2nd Assistant Engineer, on the ship behind, the Maersk Denver, took the first photo of the Ever Given blocking the canal and went viral. love the references here to the Marlboro Canal.
Unlike many, she was actually IN the video.
It is absurd to say that the Captain is ultimately in charge in a situation where there is a competent Pilot on board provided by the Port Authority to guide the vessel through waters that the Pilot is more familiar with than the Captain. It is absurd because from the commentary it is clear that the Captain can take charge if he doubts the capabilities of the Pilot BUT he risks shouldering the blame in the event of a mishap. Does he have an option at all?
Amazing work by the Denver
Maybe im being dense but don't you have to set them horizontally when sailing or on deck
100% the fault of the Egyptian pilots in my opinion. Egypt is hugely corrupt and this sounds exactly like something they would prearrange.
So the pilots can crash the ships and just walk away saying it’s nothing to do with them? If that’s the case it would benefit every canal authority to crash a ship now and then just to hold the owners to ransom.
How about, shut the canal down for affected ships when the wind is up to, or forecast to be so high?
Suez canal pilot = egyptian pirate
ridiculous having Captain give up control to the pilots but take full responsibility and liability for their actions. Then don't even bother having the pilots the captain can steer his own ship if he's going to be held liable anyway. I think the pilots are responsible but the Egyptians are money hungry
Imagine you are the AB/Helmsman during the transit and that happens 😢😭
Was the captain that ran it aground not charged for endanging the lives of his crew
Captain of the Ever Given or the American one?
Whichever the case, didn't you just watch the documentary bro?😂
Clown, the Egyptian pilots fucked up!
The canal is narrower at the bottom, but the ship is way too big, the canal in my opinion should be at least a mile wide, for windy weather, it the Egyptian government fault for not building the canal wide enough, and they prove that they know this by not being responsible for the Marlboro captain or pirates who they require to be on the ship, maybe all canals this important should be owned by the UNITED NATION, and rent paid to Egypt in cigarettes
They should have allowed the cargo to be loaded to other Vessels and only impounded the ship and Captain. Cargo had nothing to do with it.
Why did they not take some of the cargo Off make it lighter and easier to move?
Ever tried offloading 20,000 containers in the middle of the desert with no roads, when you cannot get through on the waterway with ships to load the containers onto because there’s a gigantic traffic jam there?
Had they have missed the high tide, the next one was a year later. This could have lasted much much longer.
I guess in that case they would have at least partially unloaded the ship. Which isnt easy to do at all.
@@flybywire5866indeed, that plan was already being worked on by the salvage company Smit Boskalis who actually ran this salvage from day 4, not the Egyptians.
@@flybywire5866I thought I remembered that they did?
30:10 Why not steer into the wind in open sea when the wind is too strong?
Was wondering that too. Maybe the waves put too much stress on the structure of the ship travelling under it that way?
it's definitely no doubt the pilots fault hands down, oh and mr Egyptian it's not the most important water ways it's one of them
31.26 That is totally inconclusive. So what she is saying is that high winds blew the ship over. In other words the wind blew her over to around 35 degrees and she just stayed there.
Was she on the bottom? Did she take on water? Or did her cargo shift? Why did she not right herself?
There is a point beyond which a vessel will just flop over and lie on her side, but given the position she was in she had not reached that critical point. So what happened ?
Dig another channel some place else as well
Julianne is ADORABLE!! I would LOVE to dock my ship in h'r port!!
Love love love your work dude .
I've pretty much travelled up and down side to side of this Isle of ours plus Ireland .often wondered about certain roads .