u could argue akaijin > frostbolt but def not zk, 0 chance. dude has extremely good primary aim and is playing like a 3kd while using hc shotty dawnblade
@@turtle5542 I mean i would say that Aka probably has better sniper aim but yea i would agree zk probably has the edge, i think it’s closer than you think
My problem with these types of videos is everyone thinks streamers are egotistical when they get upset. Only difference from people who don’t stream, is they say the same thing but not in front of people. But if streamers do it, everyone thinks they see themselves as “elitist” and “egotistical” all the time, which isn’t the truth every time. It’s just typically trash talking. Not saying the video itself causes that, it’s the toxic echo chamber it brings in the comments. So many of you in the comments act like you’ve never said or acted like this before. Edit: yes zk has his moments 🐀
Yea there's nothing wrong with some shit talk. I mean the point of the vid was me making fun of them for thinking i was cheating. TBH everyone has some ego in fps
Bro you taking this video way to seriously….both clown shoes ZK & Frost called out the homie for cheating and being trash. Shoutout to @Aka1jin for laying down the pipe. Streamers that focus on PVP content are toxic AF. So are the subs that come to their defense 😂
The thing about the POV in Destiny is that the enemy will see you before you can see them and it looks like they're pre firing but they can see you clear as day. You don't see them until the they're already shooting you. Figured this out watching guardian theater. Nice plays man
Peekers advantage is in nearly every FPS game in existence especially arcade shooters like Destiny and COD. zk is probably aware of this and is probably just mad
@@scottb2616 Purechill is washed af, and all he does it complain tooo smh. Mans doesnt even know how to get good stats. I was watching a streamer teach him how. Like homie, youve been here since 2014, how do you not know this xD
You can't necessarily prove someone is or isn't using wall hacks because of hiders that don't show the wall hacks in the recording / stream but yeah it's funny that they just automatically assume you're cheating.
Coming from the person who also has cried like a bitch bc they lost a match or they had shit teammates lol such a dumb comment and yes he did poop on them doesn't mean he is good I get aces on rainbow six dont mean I'm good
I have noticed that too zk really bitchs alot I come from tcgs like yugioh and the way I look at it you take an L you gotta do the honorable thing and present a handshake and most importantly LEARN FROM THE LOSS some folks get far by being putting on a pedestal but true legends are born via hard work and grit and get to even greater heights. keep on trucking my crucible brochachos!
i will say, it’s fair that they suspected hacks from the snipes. controller snipes are absolutely stupid and you basically take no flinch, so it’s easy to doubt legitimacy when you headshot someone who’s dumped shot after shot into you and you still land it.
I wish there was a theater mode in this game so you could look at matches from everyone's 1st person perspective, like in Black Ops 1. I feel like it would personally help me overcome my own toxic ego if I was able to see an engagement from the other person's perspective. Also, there have been times when I hit snipes on ppl that 100% was not on head and should not have killed, and the same has probably happened to me without knowing.
He was cool on console before. He wasn't like this at all when he used to play with NF and dustrock. Now he complains almost all the time when other players kill him. 🙄🙄
Love it. I don't think you understand how important it is that you make these. I also don't think these streamers realize that they are part of the problem. Subbed.
@@furyx5234 Really? the reason i think streamers are a problem is because they use shit then complain that it needs a nerf because they are sick of getting shit on. They are also the first to call people cheaters instead of taking a moment and finding out if they really are. So he's using a controller does that make him a cheat? These streamers love to shit on anyone that makes their stream suck ass. Sorry but that's just my opinion. I understand if you don't agree and that's cool. I am high af though lol.
Yup, you hit that right on the nail. They are gar baj, no skill. Wait until they can’t snipe smg one day, I will continue to manifest the nerfs needed.
We need to nerf controllers in this damn game. Or at least have input based matchmaking in trials, playing against controller snipes and smgs is not fair.
Everything he used in the video is just as good on MnK as it is on controlling. Thats why its the #1 used primary kinetic. Cut the cord and go touch a women.
@@Yohruu Only advantage is that it’s easier to play with but it’s nowhere near on the same caliber as cheating. Just an excuse people say to cope when they lose.
@@YohruuBeing able to shoot a 0 stability gun with more accuracy than a controller user using the same gun with 100 accuracy, while also having pin point accuracy and insane sensitivity beats the slight aim assist you get when using controller. Also, why do M&K users pretend like they don't also benefit from aim assist? Both input devices have it. You're right though, M&K sucks ass. Controller totally has a big advantage when using it
What is true though because of cheating and even soft cheating with macros and net-limiting the line between clean non cheating good players and soft cheating is very blurred.
To be devils advocate here. This is a peer to peer matchmaking game. It’s quite obvious this TH-camr has connection advantage which is why ZK is crying cheating since he “feels” like this guy is prefiring which he showcased he is not. Though from ZKs very short perspective he shows he does look like he got prefired. It’s just visuals and connection. I doubt this TH-camr cheats obviously. But when you’re in the heat of the moment connection bullshit can feel like it. This guy seems good. But having connection advantage is a huge buffer. This is not a competitive game. Thinking it is without dedicated servers is crazy lol. Not to mention these guys can also have up their streams which they obviously did since they got all this clipped unless they used guardian theater. Frost shouldn’t have been so salty, but hey man. Destiny makes people butthurt lol. I hate that someone always gets connection advantage essentially every game haha. Crazy to me people still think this game is competitive while that’s a thing.
Streamers a God given with absolute God like power's if one is to defeat one it's because you cheated them 😂 I love it when they go against a better player Gg man
They play good but i dont like one thing of them, everytime someone is better they cheet prefire a lot of bulllsss…. If you loose and no one doing cheet just shhh
You have a 98% headshot accuracy with 12k kills and 89% with 23k sniper kills lol 😂 a little sus, even the best snipers with that many kills are in the low 80%
@@Aka1jin 91% with cloud strike with 857 kills bro even the best controller players aren’t this high just to inconsistent from your earlier stats 2 seasons ago.
@@jamesgill9223 3 things i only have 137 kills with that hs, its not hard to get a high hs% and i stream all my trials games with a cam so i dont get accused
Depends on how you define cheating. I mean wall jacks xim aimbots all server what purpose? To give an advantage over your opponents. Smg and snipers are both better on roller which is an advantage. So is running bubble and Antaeus. Hell whether or not you end up host or the enemy ends up host gives or takes advantage. No dedicated servers no actual lan tourneys or division based on inputs game will never be competitive. On the flip side if the meta is shotty/HC mnk have the clear advantage it’s all give and take and everyone is “cheating” even if it’s just bungie giving them host for the match. Tbh I’d prob rage if I HAD to play destiny 2 for a living. Games are meant to be fun just have fun it’s really not that serious.
yeah played frost this weekend twice destroyed him while duo queue both immortal titans XD then lost to him n his team while solo queue n still had hackusations
@@JinxCT it really is, it has way better movement and stability, all controller has its a little better aim assist, you're all just crying cause you're bad😂
it’s actually so funny watching streamers rage when they face someone better than them
u could argue akaijin > frostbolt but def not zk, 0 chance. dude has extremely good primary aim and is playing like a 3kd while using hc shotty dawnblade
@@turtle5542 I mean i would say that Aka probably has better sniper aim but yea i would agree zk probably has the edge, i think it’s closer than you think
Better sniper aim cause roller lol, that's a fact
how far do you think i think it is? and yea akas an experienced roller user, ofc he had the edge in sniping that goes without saying@@timmyrau2806
@@Jim_GG and? That’s one thing that controllers have an advantage on, movement on controller is no where near what you can do on kbm
My problem with these types of videos is everyone thinks streamers are egotistical when they get upset. Only difference from people who don’t stream, is they say the same thing but not in front of people. But if streamers do it, everyone thinks they see themselves as “elitist” and “egotistical” all the time, which isn’t the truth every time. It’s just typically trash talking. Not saying the video itself causes that, it’s the toxic echo chamber it brings in the comments. So many of you in the comments act like you’ve never said or acted like this before. Edit: yes zk has his moments 🐀
Yea there's nothing wrong with some shit talk. I mean the point of the vid was me making fun of them for thinking i was cheating. TBH everyone has some ego in fps
@@Aka1jin Yeah honestly everyone does. Can't even tell whose cheating nowadays
@@Aka1jinconnection advantage in a peer to peer game whilst sniping or any engagement for that matter goes crazzzzzyyy.
Bro you taking this video way to seriously….both clown shoes ZK & Frost called out the homie for cheating and being trash. Shoutout to @Aka1jin for laying down the pipe. Streamers that focus on PVP content are toxic AF. So are the subs that come to their defense 😂
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The thing about the POV in Destiny is that the enemy will see you before you can see them and it looks like they're pre firing but they can see you clear as day. You don't see them until the they're already shooting you. Figured this out watching guardian theater.
Nice plays man
Indeed
Peekers advantage is in nearly every FPS game in existence especially arcade shooters like Destiny and COD. zk is probably aware of this and is probably just mad
@@LearnedSophistry emphasis on the last sentence lol
This is absolutely hilarious seeing it from the other teams perspective and then the clips from ZK and frostbolt right after. Absolutely awesome
ZK calls people cheaters the second they kill him every time LOL
Still not as annoying as Purechill tho
@@scottb2616 Purechill is washed af, and all he does it complain tooo smh. Mans doesnt even know how to get good stats. I was watching a streamer teach him how. Like homie, youve been here since 2014, how do you not know this xD
@@scottb2616Why so much hate to Pure??
I don't get why people get WAAAAY to serious for a MF game...
You can't necessarily prove someone is or isn't using wall hacks because of hiders that don't show the wall hacks in the recording / stream but yeah it's funny that they just automatically assume you're cheating.
Frost and ZK should get a Kleenex sponsorship, crying all the damn time instead of saying GG and moving on lmfao good shit Ak🙏🏼
Coming from the person who also has cried like a bitch bc they lost a match or they had shit teammates lol such a dumb comment and yes he did poop on them doesn't mean he is good I get aces on rainbow six dont mean I'm good
Frost is far more better wit sportsmanship ZK is just a child in a man’s body
I have noticed that too zk really bitchs alot I come from tcgs like yugioh and the way I look at it you take an L you gotta do the honorable thing and present a handshake and most importantly LEARN FROM THE LOSS some folks get far by being putting on a pedestal but true legends are born via hard work and grit and get to even greater heights. keep on trucking my crucible brochachos!
i will say, it’s fair that they suspected hacks from the snipes. controller snipes are absolutely stupid and you basically take no flinch, so it’s easy to doubt legitimacy when you headshot someone who’s dumped shot after shot into you and you still land it.
I don't think this is true. I could be wrong things change in D2 a lot but I think flinch is nearly double on controller as well as recoil
@@macgumby40no. Sniper flinch is far lesser in controller, not mention the dumb aim assist
@@simplyrohith2163well yeah cause MnK has infinite stability and bullet magnetism so roller needs something to compete against that
@@simplyrohith2163sniper flinch is more it’s just easier cus u have aim assist to comoensate
Aim assist players always trying to convince people they’re good
I wish there was a theater mode in this game so you could look at matches from everyone's 1st person perspective, like in Black Ops 1. I feel like it would personally help me overcome my own toxic ego if I was able to see an engagement from the other person's perspective.
Also, there have been times when I hit snipes on ppl that 100% was not on head and should not have killed, and the same has probably happened to me without knowing.
He was cool on console before. He wasn't like this at all when he used to play with NF and dustrock. Now he complains almost all the time when other players kill him. 🙄🙄
The thing is ive played him before and he didnt think I was cheating
@@Aka1jinprolly cuz he beat you the moment he loses it’s a different story
you must have lost that match then lmao, these niggas think them losing=cheating.@@Aka1jin
Your pre-aim is awesome. gg dude.
'These guys are trash'
lmfao😂😂😂😂
Love it. I don't think you understand how important it is that you make these. I also don't think these streamers realize that they are part of the problem. Subbed.
Brother ur just absolutely trolling or freaking high af this guy s freaking playing controller cmon how can you say that...
@@furyx5234 Really? the reason i think streamers are a problem is because they use shit then complain that it needs a nerf because they are sick of getting shit on. They are also the first to call people cheaters instead of taking a moment and finding out if they really are. So he's using a controller does that make him a cheat? These streamers love to shit on anyone that makes their stream suck ass. Sorry but that's just my opinion. I understand if you don't agree and that's cool. I am high af though lol.
4:03 dam my dude are you using the cheapest aimbot in the market of what at least try to hide it a bit 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why are all the controller players posting games against streamers? It's always the exact same loadout too lol
Yup, you hit that right on the nail. They are gar baj, no skill. Wait until they can’t snipe smg one day, I will continue to manifest the nerfs needed.
i mean he thought i was walling so that was part of it
@@Creature-ology lmao u sound like you’re bad at d2 and can’t win consistently. Keep ur bitterness to yourself bud 😂😂
I know they see these videos and think “wow I’m a dumbass” 😂. At least have the dignity to apologize
So entertaining seeing both sides.
ill def keep it up in these streamer games
They’re just channeling their inner GJake. Whenever they get outplayed, it’s “he’s cheating.” 🤣
He shit talked one of my friends when she killed him with a bow. Was hilarious watching
the fact they called you trash and they aping with conditional on titan, come on
I KNOW ! My word may make someone feel sick and piss off me . But i still gona say. The whole D2 community is being more and more toxic.
I wish it wasn't as toxic because that just looked like a genuinely good competitive match of trials imo
We need to nerf controllers in this damn game. Or at least have input based matchmaking in trials, playing against controller snipes and smgs is not fair.
Just gained a sub. Love seeing these trials games against mainstream streamers. Hella entertaining lol ur such a smooth player good snipes g!
thx man
ZK is a clown. Him and Gernader Jake always go to “They are cheating” when they lose. As if they are the be all, end all in Destiny 2.
I didn’t know that’s where ur emote comes from nice video
I love everything about this clip. keep humbling em my guy!
ofc
what roll of the unending do you use?
hammer acc perpetual tlock and range mw
People run cheese shit like this aka degenerates and complain about dying. Hop the sticks my dude or use a HC lmfao.
Everything he used in the video is just as good on MnK as it is on controlling. Thats why its the #1 used primary kinetic. Cut the cord and go touch a women.
good video, It's easy to mistake a player with controller for a cheater
its a classic when an "elite" streamers thinking the other guy is cheating cuz losing its hilarious well played bro
nice shots.
Bro XIMs and is shit at the game 😂
Do you play with paddles on the back of your controller and what is your sensitivity as well as your ads sensitivity
i use one paddle for my interact button and my sens 17 .8
Zk cant call anyone a cheater he uses a cronus zen i love watching him and his girlfriend getting clapped
this guy literally is using cronus LOL
Are you on console or controller on pc?
Roller on pc
That was awesome. They became toxic streamers, they used to be fun to watch nowadays they are just anoying
the game is going downhill so i cant blame them too much
you know, the controller is the closest thing to a cheater, but legit. it's normal
true and real
It’s not
@@itsjustcrimson1415 in a game where you can use both? and there's a really big advantage to using controller? yeah. sorry it is.
@@Yohruu Only advantage is that it’s easier to play with but it’s nowhere near on the same caliber as cheating. Just an excuse people say to cope when they lose.
@@YohruuBeing able to shoot a 0 stability gun with more accuracy than a controller user using the same gun with 100 accuracy, while also having pin point accuracy and insane sensitivity beats the slight aim assist you get when using controller.
Also, why do M&K users pretend like they don't also benefit from aim assist? Both input devices have it.
You're right though, M&K sucks ass. Controller totally has a big advantage when using it
Bro your sniping is criminal
It’s destiny 2 anyone can snipe
Just for asking, why everytime you aiming you continuosly press R3? You feel a better aim control or is something like habit?
I think he crouches with R3 and uses hold crouch
yup r3 crouch
Gg, Zk is such a baby, he gets mad even when a 38-year-old dad like me kills him.😂
Their carry is a Gilded Flawless? Lol
How do you have your controller settings set? Your sniping is amazing btw
I play 17 sens .8 ads
Fov?
fov? @@Aka1jin
@@Aka1jinidk what the chances in that happening but that's my exact sens setup.
Idk why ZK think your cheating, your not Ximing or Cronus
He though i was walling but still i dont think anything i did that game was crazy
@@Aka1jin true, you still awesome
good shots!
thx my dude
What is true though because of cheating and even soft cheating with macros and net-limiting the line between clean non cheating good players and soft cheating is very blurred.
What sens you on bro?
Lmao😂 that's is why our game going downhill because of the streamers bungie ruin destiny 2 and the community Nice vid keep grinding bro .
ZK is toxic AF, this guy land every headshot but iif someone else does he rages
Beast 😁
To be devils advocate here. This is a peer to peer matchmaking game. It’s quite obvious this TH-camr has connection advantage which is why ZK is crying cheating since he “feels” like this guy is prefiring which he showcased he is not. Though from ZKs very short perspective he shows he does look like he got prefired. It’s just visuals and connection. I doubt this TH-camr cheats obviously. But when you’re in the heat of the moment connection bullshit can feel like it. This guy seems good.
But having connection advantage is a huge buffer. This is not a competitive game. Thinking it is without dedicated servers is crazy lol. Not to mention these guys can also have up their streams which they obviously did since they got all this clipped unless they used guardian theater. Frost shouldn’t have been so salty, but hey man. Destiny makes people butthurt lol. I hate that someone always gets connection advantage essentially every game haha. Crazy to me people still think this game is competitive while that’s a thing.
Prop cheeky video mate 🔥
To be fair, bro is controller on pc with smg, sniper 🤷♂️
Fair enough your not wrong
whats the roll on the smg?
hammer forge acc perpetual tlock range mk
Feel the POWER of the sticks!! Way to put those trash aimbot steamers in their place!
wsg aka
idk why but frost and zk have been salty as of late.. step up your game thats all i can say. good job bud
I fw frost but Zk's ego is through the roof
Now carry me or ZKs right
seems i have no choice now😂
I mean playing pvp with a controller IS cheating
It's character building
Classic snipes broo ❤❤
yes sirrr
Streamers a God given with absolute God like power's if one is to defeat one it's because you cheated them 😂
I love it when they go against a better player Gg man
Zk always cry so much, guy might think hes the best or something.
Who knew ximming would get u views
Why are you butthurt? Do you know this zk kid personally? Is he your brother or best friend or something?
@@sirloin7633 lmao im say this as a troll cause aka is my friend
@@JinxCT ohh wow, because the internet knows you 2 are butt buddies right? F this zk kid and F you too i guess....dont be such a silly goose
@@JinxCT F everyone.....why not???!!!!
They can't accept the fact about losing to someone better than them lol, do you have a twitch channel which I can follow and watch your pvp streams.
ur insane w the snipes fr
They allways do contentbof other cheeting or anything so i think another streamer can do it
They play good but i dont like one thing of them, everytime someone is better they cheet prefire a lot of bulllsss…. If you loose and no one doing cheet just shhh
Its the same bullshit with every streamer, you play them and you loose = bot. You play them and you win = cheater
mhmm
this is just full aimassist zero skill gameplay
Good shit man
Nice!
tympa got this treatment
Well played
Do they not know that you and JoMo do carries?
prob not
using a controller on pc is cheating! just like a mouse and keyboard on a console
imagine having a ego and youre a controller player relying on something called "aim assist" and also abusing meta lol this game is pointless
why wouldnt I have an ego when im getting called out for cheats😅
@@Aka1jin thats what i am saying youre playing the cheesiest shit roller and smgs and they play hcs mnk
@@Aka1jin if you wanna have an ego get a skill and play hc mnk
@@Aka1jin or gtfo pc match rollers
@@bug3684 what roller player hurt you lmao
You have a 98% headshot accuracy with 12k kills and 89% with 23k sniper kills lol 😂 a little sus, even the best snipers with that many kills are in the low 80%
where are you getting these stats from???
@@Aka1jin your trials report
@@Aka1jin you have a 98% this week
@@Aka1jin 91% with cloud strike with 857 kills bro even the best controller players aren’t this high just to inconsistent from your earlier stats 2 seasons ago.
@@jamesgill9223 3 things i only have 137 kills with that hs, its not hard to get a high hs% and i stream all my trials games with a cam so i dont get accused
I wish they nerfed smgs back to the ground again same with sidearms they are so annoying
hopefully the smg nerf does something
Better is a little far those kids do nothing but play destiny
Wah wah wah wah wah, ZK lost, boohoo
And just like that gained a new fan and subscriber ggs bro they’re so cringe lol
All you guys are cheating lol I dunno why it matters. Cheaters vs cheaters is fun games
controller=skill less.
genuine question how do you find good players to stack with? Like im a seasonal 2+ kda last 3 or so seasons and I the people i know arent the greatest
the lfg isnt too bad of a start
@Aka1jin ty man I'm just sick of 1v3ing every fcking game it's so annoying atp
Of course you're not cheating. You're just on the sticks using broken stuff, it's just destiny
true and real
Depends on how you define cheating. I mean wall jacks xim aimbots all server what purpose? To give an advantage over your opponents. Smg and snipers are both better on roller which is an advantage. So is running bubble and Antaeus. Hell whether or not you end up host or the enemy ends up host gives or takes advantage. No dedicated servers no actual lan tourneys or division based on inputs game will never be competitive. On the flip side if the meta is shotty/HC mnk have the clear advantage it’s all give and take and everyone is “cheating” even if it’s just bungie giving them host for the match.
Tbh I’d prob rage if I HAD to play destiny 2 for a living. Games are meant to be fun just have fun it’s really not that serious.
Controller is gay bro. Controler Sniping is so easy. And MP is on Controller crackt
mnk is also pretty free ngl
I like how there is still people crying about controller aim assist, when they have every other advantage against us 😂😂😂
It’s literally barely better than mnk aim assist lol
yeah played frost this weekend twice destroyed him while duo queue both immortal titans XD then lost to him n his team while solo queue n still had hackusations
Why make videos like this is this the only way you get views on vids? Having them in your title 🗿
He said i was walling why wouldnt a make a vid 😭
Way to take them down a couple of pegs. These crybaby's need some humble pie every now and then.
Cold
😂❤🔥
Dude you Using CM adapter. Get good. There is no skill in your fingers. You made mistake you put you controller movement in your vid. 😂
Does anyone speak English?
LMAO Gs homie!
thx bro
better than them funny
xim
Controller …it’s so boring 🥱🥱
Simply the better input
M&K has more advantages
@@ak-77 and its still not better than
@@JinxCT it really is, it has way better movement and stability, all controller has its a little better aim assist, you're all just crying cause you're bad😂
@@ak-77 cool joke , if you're talking about xim, then yes, but I'm not interested in that
Love it