Need (Oathbreakers)
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- Song - Need - (Mercedes Lackey/Juanita Coulson)
Juanita Coulson (Need) Lesllie Fish Arrangement, Cecilia Eng Arrangement, Midi Programming
Album - Oathbreakers
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Lyrics
My mother was a blacksmith
My father was the flame
My midwife was the Goddess
Giving power with my name.
And I was born of fury
To avenge my people’s shame.
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
There was an ancient temple
The Goddess pledged it so.
A Holy woman’s haven,
Where no man should ever go.
A tyrant came to raid
And laid its last defender low
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
He slaughtered, raped, and plundered
And then went on his way
And spared no thought for any
That he hadn’t chance to slay
Such as the Temple’s blacksmith
Still alive among his prey
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
My glowing forge was ready
And so I made appeal
I prayed the Goddess bless my task
And make its power real
I cast a spell, a sky stone and
My soul into the steel
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
And when my work was ended
There stood a mighty blade
That answers only to the hand
Of women unafraid
A thing of power and magic
Like no weapon ever made
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
My student found my body
A broken, bloody shell
She knew this mage’s spirit
Had fled to the sword to dwell
She took the blade I had become
And vowed to use it well
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
We blooded first a vengeance
Against that tyrant’s crew
My student bore me to them
And most hungrily I slew
I gave her strength and skill
Beyond all that she ever knew
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
And from that hour onward
Across the world I’ve gone
The cause for which my Goddess shaped me
Ever drives me on
Wherever man abuses woman
There this sword is drawn
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
I answer need of woman
For her I turn aside
I hasten to her rescue
And I will not be denied
A thousand woman slayers
By my edge and point have died
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need
*Woman's Need calls me; As Woman's Need made me; Her Need I must answer; As my maker bade me.*
👍
Said maker was a serious badass.
@@owenmcgee891
Mage smith dude. Mage and Smith! Need i say more?
@@peterwall8191 not a dude
Them or me
“A thousand woman slayers by my edge and point have died
I am Need
I am Need
I am Need”.
I love that part of the song
Some people seem to be very confused, Need is not a demonic sword. She’s a spirit-sword. In the universe of this song there are a number of different Planes of Existence. The lowest or “heaviest” of which is the Abyssal Plane, which is where Demons and the lessor Abyssal Elementals live. Demons are very powerful and intelligent, the Abyssal Elementals less so. “Above” the Abyssal Plane is the Elemental and Material Planes, and above those is the Aethreal Plane, which is where the gods and their servants live, and where good people go when they die unless they choose to be reborn. It’s basically Heaven. In between are the Elemental Planes and the Material Plane. The Material Plane is where humans live, and the Elemental Plane is where creatures like Fire or Earth elementals live. The creatures of the Abyssal Plane are “evil” in that the energies they require (and possibly even like) to remain in the material plane after being summoned are generated by pain and suffering. The Elemental and Material Plane creatures are neutral, and can choose to be good or evil, and the Aethreal Plane inhabitants are good (and likely “feed” off worship and spiritual purity). Need is from the Material Plane as she was a human woman, and she doesn’t feed off pain and suffering like a demon either. So she is not a demon. Most demons or Abyssal creatures don’t posses people or objects in-universe in any case. And anyway, just because something can possess a person that doesn’t mean it’s a demon. In our universe The Holy Spirit can possess people and that’s an aspect of the Christian God. Anyway, I’d argue what Need is doing is not possession. She’s just using her bearer’s body as an extension of her own. In Foundation the Companion Dallen does the same thing on a smaller scale to teach Mags how to ride and make some Companion-hair bootstraps and such for his friends, and in the OwlFlight series a dyheli (which is not a spirit at all) does the same thing to a scouting party to free them from the control of a Cold Drake. It’s basically a form of mind-control that is usually used in a benign or helpful way.
What ever kills Diablo is blessed in its own right!
so the magic sword was originally a Angel?
@@eliotreader8220no it was made with a person in it. I think..
thanks for the information about Mag's companion. the Companions have some kind of very powerful magic.
Need doesn't really control or possess anyone. It just says "hey, hey btch, this way" "HEY, HEY HEYYYYYYYY THIS WAY, IF YOU DONT LISTEN ILL GIVE YOU THE WORST DNM MIGRAINE IN EXISTENCE CATH. AND DONT YOU DARE KILL ANOTHER WOMAN, ILL TAKE YOU WITH HER."
I like how the chorus slowly gets more an more intense
Story of Need is touched on in the story but some is just hinted at and not said out right. The exact timing of the forging of Need is unknown. The location of the temple location and country is unknown.. All we know it was far in the past, in an ancient temple. The high priestess was mage-smith. In fact the temple was of women who knew both magic and fighting. The tyrant king raids the temple, raping and killing many (if not all) of her disciples. I think she was gone at the time, as when she finds her dead students, the priestess swears vengeance.
She then forges a magical sword to be used to help with her quest= to avenge the assault on helpless women and to fight against the men who would harm women. This explains the urge that would overcome Kethry when she uses the sword, it would literally drive the wielder to help women in need. Sometimes it would also sense if a woman needed help, driving the wielder to the area in need.
Another aspect of Need is if the woman is a sorceress that knows little or nothing about fighting, it helps out in that area. If its the opposite, woman is a fighter and knows nothing about magic, I believe it helps out a little then but that wasn't really shown much like the fighting skills were, so I may be wrong about that.
One thing not stated clearly in the song is the final step that in forging the sword that the priestess performed was to quench the blade … in her own blood. That was the step that is hinted at in the line about her disciple finding her broken and bloodied body. She literally took the hot metal rod and rammed it into her own body. THIS is why the sword has a personality - it is the soul of that high priestess that resides in the blade.
What is not said about the blade beyond that discple finding it, is how was it completed. I've watched a lot of videos on sword making and quenching isn't the final step in making the sword. After the forging then they need to grind it to an edge and make the handle. Its possible that she stabbed herself in the tempering, so possible she had grinded the edge then but there would be no handle at that point. Either way, the sword wasn't complete. So two possibilities= 1- the disciple finished the blade. 2- the Goddess that blessed it is the one that finished it, meaning that once the Priestess 'quenched it in her own blood' the goddess then transformed it into a finished piece. Since this is set in a world where the gods often have a hand in mortal affairs (depending on what gods and their moods) then that is possible.
I wonder if the tyrant who sacked the ancient temple was Ma'ar. The tyrant's crew was slain but not himself, and it was forged with powerful magic, perhaps at a time when high fantasy magic was more common. It would also be poetic if Need came across Ma'ar and his kingdoms multiple times in her history.
I think it mentions that the making of Need was thousands of years before the mage wars.
Technically the sword was finished before Need the Mage-Smith killed herself on it to be Need the Sword. It just got reheated.
The sword was already completed. What was done would be bad for a regular blade, but the spells already on it helped protect the blade.
The full story of need actually has been written. It was in one of the later books where Elspeth actually manages to wake the soul in the blade. Need describes the events that the song hints about.
One key that came out was that the blade was a finished blade. The woman who dies to put her soul into need would make a special sword with multiple blessings and then give it to a special student leaving the temple. She had created a blade, but hadn't found any leaving student worthy, so the sword was secreted away. after the Tyrant sacked the temple, she used her magic to put her soul into the already finished and heavily magicked blade.
3:00 I can’t get enough of the way they say “Woman” singular to refer to all women. Like how “Man” often means “mankind”. Acting as if “Man” means only all men, as if men and women are separate species or something is incredibly cool to me for some reason.
I like the whole idea of this sword. A sword forged solely to protect women from abuse and so possessed of that purpose that it will not even harm a woman if swung at one. I don't know why but the idea of a tool so refined for it's purpose that it physically will not do anything against that purpose is very cool to me. The idea of an uncorruptable tool. I think it is because I found so little in this world to be incorruptible. Like the Ring of Power but for liberation instead of oppression.
I know Misty and Larry are pro trans rights, so I'd probably be able to wield her. (Nonbinary trans woman.)
@@owenmcgee891 Yo this is really nice to know! I feel like regardless of authorial intent magical swords should always respond to what someone's real gender is on principle.
(Also solidarity from a transmasc nonbinary person)!
Women are more biologically diffrent to men then men are to Neanderthal men or another similar species
@@seekingabsolution1907 I understand that Tarma held and used Need in one of the stories
i listen to this song a lot, i love how it's not being sexist, but also it's about a sword that hates men.
need doesnt hate men she hates those that prey on women
Actually, she did hate men for awhile there (mostly while she was only semi conscious). And she still won't let any man wield her for any reason. The sole exception to that (that I've seen) being a gay mage, her excuse for which being that he was very in touch with his feminine side. She might not hate all men, but she certainly isn't fond of them.
Firesong was the exception because the world was literally in the midst of cataclysm. And, it is not hate so much as religious oath. She was priest-mage of all female order, and she swore to her goddesses. Labeling that as hate is literally like claiming Tarma hates men. Yes, they both hate some men, but that hate was personal, and the gender had never been the critical issue of it.
Plus, this actually hurts their wielder at times as they have been attacked by female warriors and Need won't let them fight back. So, you could say that Need's power is a double edged sword.
Need is tied up with medieval ideas that often allowed men to abuse women and hold them as property. Need gave women a way to fight back when those situations came up in Mercedes Lackey's stories. It's not about hating men. It's about giving women an even footing to avenge wrongs done to them, which was in majority by men abusing their power in this setting, and historically in the real world. There's a lot of layers to unpack about Need, its creation, and whether it is a blade that ought to be wielded due to its bias...
This is EXACTLY how I imagine her voice 🤣👌
Is there a connection between this and the fact that “Need” is the translation of one of the norse runes? I think the rune is called Nauðiz. This whole song gives me norse vibes. I’m pretty sure in norse mythology every weapon has a name, and I think maybe a soul (admittedly I got that soul idea from the Magnus Chase books, so I’m not completely sure if it’s totally accurate). Plus she said “sky stone” which made me think of a rune stone (though I don’t know what the word “sky” would refer to). Maybe etching the rune of need into the sword and putting her soul into the blade made it so that the sword would make itself appear only to women in need. Without the rune context, the sword being named “need” is slightly strange. But I’m probably just being weird.
In this case, a woman's soul has been bound to the blade, by her own hand. It can only be wielded by women ( and a few gay men) and will force them to help women ( or avenge) in danger.
Sky stone could also be a meteorite. There are metals that are very rare on earth but are more prevalent elsewhere. On top of the superstitious context of a metal being "from the heavens", it could potentially make a stronger alloy -- which might be a source for some "special sword" myths
@@colinmoore7460 Could it be wielded by nonbinary folks too?
@@Soundwave._ Yes, I think there was a short story where the sword rewarded a young man with a gender conversion through purely magical means, (don't forget that a woman's soul inhabits the blade)
@@colinmoore7460 Awesome!
Juanita Carlson is quite the performer-met her several times powerful voice
My god your pseudo !!! Savitar the surfing god !! I know where THAT come from !!! My god i can't believe it !!
Kinda sad, but powerful. nice
she was bonded to a mage and later on to the mage's granddaughter who became a herold after she became that i suppose Need found a new barer for her
Need stayed with Kerowyn (the granddaughter of Kethry, the mage) for awhile after she became Herald. However, she was later passed on to the princess, and then found her way to a woman who had been turned into basically a neko by a mage and was abused by him until his very violent demise. After that, I'm not sure what happened to Need.
during cataclysmic magical recurrences, she went to the most gloriously camp gay (Firesong) to give aid in saving the world. There her blade self got shattered and her soul was finally released back to the gods.
@@Samagryn I can't remember her name, but she was the daughter of the mage that abused her. Interesting thing that ties into the history of Valdemar and its mythos is that he was the reincarnation of the ancient mage Ma'ar, who had a previous incarnation that Vanyel had to face and caused the death of the mages in Vanyel's time. During the time of the incarnation that abused his cat-girl daughter, I think the hawkbrothers called him Falconsbane due to his actions that damaged their heartstone, and injured their people
@@Katzztar Nyara
@@Samagryn Need was very briefly wielded (though that might be a strong word for it) by Firesong K'Treva and was destroyed while stopping the second cataclysm.
Thank you for this. I love it.
Thank for the repost sir.
+JOAT444 Your welcome i plan to finish reposting all my vids tonight and hopefully start uploading some new albums tomorrow.
Savitar The Surfing God
Savitar... what a great name ! I migh be wrong but aren't you a fan of "Dark hunter" ? ;) (I was soooo happy when I have seen your name 'cause the saga is not so well known and that's an awsome reference. ) Sorry for the input and thanks because you made my day happier. :)
Make it look like nature’s crafting Fear and greed will drive them on Bite your tongue to keep from laughing
any place to buy this album as a digital download?
I don't think Firebird Music provides digital downloads
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Ye town fair went WILD when she dropped this bard tune!
The ancestors would have been drinking mede to this
I am drinking mead to this.
"Ï am Mead
I am Mead
I am Mead"
Pls don't kill me
@@TreespeakerOfTheLandfuck this made me laugh too much
@@JustARoamer Glad to have provided a laugh haha :)
@@TreespeakerOfTheLand other funny coincidenced about this: I found out I was related to a high status Viking woman who's body was found same year I was born, and I've tried making mead before
Excalibur
⚔️ 👌
So the blade only answers to “women unafraid”? Isn’t that sort of counterproductive?
I bet it was at least counterproductive. I will have to look these stories up.
Geordin Soucie it can only be weilded by women unafraid to go into battle to protect other women or you know kill men sucks if you come across a female bandit lol
Fear, my old friend whom warns me when I'm doing something risky. Bravery, my old friend who wills me onwards in spite of cowardice. Can't have bravery without fear you only have madness.
The stories are by Mercedes Lackey need features primarily in the shorter stories of the Vows and Honor trilogy about Kethery (needs barer) and her traveling companion Tamara. Need is also featured in By the Sword carried by her next barer Kethry’s granddaughter. also the woman unafraid line was probably artistic license by the canonical bard writing the song as one of the barers Kerowyn is very afraid in her first rescue with the sword (she’s alone and untrained against a raiding party and bloodmage)
Demonic weapons tend to favor wielders with certain traits which makes it easier to possess or which align with blade's personality. A coward will be very hard to manipulate into seeking constant fights. Thus, blade seeks people who are unafraid.
@@REgamesplayer Not Demonic, but defiantly magical. The woman whose soul inhabits the blade was, apparently a warrior, and a mage, and a blacksmith/swordsmith, and priestess, so would tend to favour women with a certain kind attitude. On Velgarth, the world the books are set, magic is as natural a force as water, and those who can tap into it are rare and must be trained. Without proper training...well, think of the first harry potter book, but more explosive. But there is also Blood Magic, only really used by the truly evil. The Blood Mage will happily kill ( the old trope of the virgin girl sacrificed to summon the "creature") to do their magic. Read The Mage Winds Trilogy, you'll see what I mean.
Long live the celtic genes
I am a might disappointed in this blade. Karsite Priestess are evil lasses yet Need cannot be used against her.
I love this song. It is probably the only song about demonic weapons.
Need isn't exactly demonic, magical yes, but not demonic. In fact she destroys demons. Look, read the books, you'll see what I mean.
@@colinmoore7460 Does this blade fills the user with new found purpose? Like to take vengeance, protect innocent?
Either way, I would not call a blade which was made in hatred for purpose of revenge to be born precisely out of good intentions. Neither I would call suicide by this blade and then soaking it in your own blood to be a reasonable act. To me, this song sings about demon forged weapon. Magician was consumed by hatred, she used her own powers to instill blade with her soul and later had transferred herself to this blade. It carries the last emotion she felt through the ages as just a fraction of her soul survived the transfer, ensuring that only the most recent and most traumatic even remains.
Demonic/angelic are just words. They represent worldview rather than how cuddly and beneficial you are to everybody. Lines between hero and blessed weapons can be extremely blurry. Like in this case, this is a demon weapon who praises war of God and slaughters in its name, grows more powerful on blood of its enemies and possesses its wielder by pushing it to do more what blade desires. Because purpose of said blade is more acceptable to us, we call it good. If it would not be acceptable to us or used against us, it will be evil. Blessed, angelic, demonic advj. are based merely on its usefulness to us. Its purpose, nature, behavior, goals are interchangeable with any evil or good blade. The only difference is whatever blade hungers for your or your enemies blood.
@@REgamesplayer The blade was Human. A mage and blacksmith who sacrificed herself to protect others...well ok protect women, and get revenge for th priestesses already slain. Look at who uses it and how before making judgment! Yes it gives additional skills and protections, and heals any and all injuries, BUT THOSE WERE ALREADY PART OF THE BLADE. It was a bog standard magic sword. And now only women (and men with the same...preferences) can weild the sword. It does eventually get "killed" but it takes the magical equivalent of a thermo nuclear weapon in the face at the end of the Mage Storm trilogy. Need only hungers for justice, and it only "take over" if your a novice swords woman, as Kerowyn was at the start of By The sword.
th-cam.com/video/xohmUNBvtvQ/w-d-xo.html , The Arizona Sword, not as much story though.
@@colinmoore7460 Sounds like what exactly demonic weapon would do. Nor you could tell any difference if you would get in its way and be cut down merely because you are a man.
We need this sword today. Maybe then our rights as women would be heard
you have something 10 times better...guns!
Sexist sword. Charming.
An artifact powered by a bound soul.... = a Demon.
Luckily not a Devil? Just needs to be employed properly.
Need protects women from being raped and abused, how is it sexist?
@@WillHerondale-bz4hw We all know it's not. The OP is the kind of person Need would have a problem with.
@@WillHerondale-bz4hw It would be sexist if it choosed to shy away from punnishing abuse done on men, which to my (admitedly limited) knowledge it does not.
Also it need to be remebered that Need is esentialy dealing with shitload of PTSD...
Cian Abroad very inconvenient whenever they face a female bloodmage. female mage opponents were basically the bane of kethery and tamara’s existence
Nice song but, I'm about to rain on the fans parade.
Need was a demon blade. It took possession of the body of her wielder, by her own admission.
Herself admits she did that. What she omits i can surmise. The blade was made for vengeance after all, by a suicide that was crazy already.
I’m sorry but what facts are you basing this on? Need would have had to summon an actual demon for her to be in any way ‘demonic’. The vengeance you speak of was directed toward evil men, and of course, the drawback, it wouldn’t hurt women by nature. That sword was supposed to be an empowerment for the women that wielded it and help them save other women in a society where most women were inferior in all the ways that mattered.
I dislike people coming into a fandom and saying “I think this ___ because of [inadequate] reason.
The sword, because she drained at some point, went to “sleep” for a long period of time until the book “Winds of Fate” and so could not ask her bearers permission to get themselves out of the situations they were in.
Also, this song is not entirely accurate as to what happened because it was written before Need’s origin was explained in “Winds of Change “.
Before you go into random fandoms proclaiming things like this, I suggest you look at things like Wiki Fandom and researching your claims. The wiki for this fandom is this: valdemar.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
This is Need’s page: valdemar.fandom.com/wiki/Need_(sword)?so=search
Please look carefully before respectfully replying, I will not tolerate the “I am right because I think I am, and because I base my arguments on irrelevant things.”
Yours sincerely, a fan of this book series.
Have a nice day!
@@MistyShadowsXX_Valdemar
You were warned. You want facts ? Ok! Taking possession of another's body. Forcing someone, against their will , to act out of character.
She is a demon, the same way Maar was. The soul of a dead person, inhabiting a body not their own. Whch is how the Bible defines a demon.
How many women did she get killed? I'm referring to her wielders fan boi. She would have gotten Kerowyn killed the first time , if not for tarna.
So the question a rises , how many did she get killed be cause they did not have a shina'in sworn to watch their backs?
IDk what's more pathetic , that you worship a made up sword, or that you are not alone.
Both disturb me greatly.
@@peterwall8191 And you just completely ruined your argument by bringing religion into it.
You’re also saying I worship a sword? Even if I did, it sounds like you worship an entity would crucify their child without batting an eye.
I asked for a respectful reply and instead I got a whiny person spouting Christianity. I am disappointed but not surprised.
Also, by the way, I believe in no god. If you would like to respectfully continue this then please be respectful about.
You got part of your definition of a demon wrong to. Demons were never human in the first place. Quote religion, but be correct. And remember, this fantasy series written by an author who I doubt is Christian.
The rules of demons in this universe is not the same as Christianity so take that into account when backing up your claims.
Also, check out the forums on the wiki, people of there will happily hash this out over there with you like me.
Need is not a demonic blade, why do people keep arguing this? Demons in this universe are very, very obvious and couldn’t be bound to something as simple a magicked steel in any case. Simply possessing someone does not make something a demon. Gods and spirits can possess people as well. She’s a spirit sword.
@@peterwall8191 bro this is fictional. this is literally a book. this is like the hobbit. its not real. nobody is denying that but you.