WOW what a production line you set up! I’m impressed. My husband is from Lebanon and he looks at our 4 Pine Trees in our suburban backyard and says I wish they had pine nuts! I showed him a couple videos of people harvesting them and he walked away 😂I think he’ll just buy his. Good job 👍🏻and can I be a friend of yours? 😊
I really liked your approach to this. Your sheller is a great idea, the designs I have found on YT so far were wooden mills that can be calibrated with washers. Not as easy to make. r/GrowingPineNuts is a great community for pine nut enthusiasts (it's not only about growing pine nuts). It's really small (114 members). I am the founder there. I myself have harvested pine nuts but from cultivated Siberian (P. sibirica), Korean (P. koraiensis), and Siberian dwarf (P. pumila) pines in my area (pine nuts range in size from 0.31-0.51 in). Being in Latvia, it might be possible to grow pinon pines (P. edulis) in our climate since the tree has a -28.8 °C cold hardiness limit. I use an aluminum pole to harvest the cones prematurely (Sep 1st for Korean pines), as otherwise they would get eaten by woodpeckers or squirrels. Also, these cones do not open, so I am designing a pine cone mill (barrel with spikes).
Howdy again! I had not noticed your reply until reviewing seed source just now. I have had a little luck with the seeds we've found so far and are going to keep going on the Pinyon and Rocky Mtn. Juniper. We understand these are trees for the grand kids or whom ever comes later. Sounds like fall is when we need to converse. I'll write that down.
@roberthodge7802 the trees will produce cones with seeds in them every year but they are usually unpollinated and empty inside. Everything has to be just right for for them to pollinate and produce a viable seed. Usually every 7 years you get a crop. We have a good crop this year and it has been nine years since the last one.
the trees produce seeds every 7 to 9 years. I’m only doing this for survival lessons. How do you know which tree or area is ripe and which is not ripe?
Watch in the spring if they're making cones or not. Almost every year in a given mountain/valley/mountain a stand or two will make nuts. Its only every 4-7 years all the trees produce
That's the problem with you biligáanas though. It doesn't need to be processed in masse, you just do more harm than good to our cultures and land in the Southwest US with that kind of sentiment. Learn how to live within your means instead of always wanting more, and faster.
Thank you so much for this information! Can I ask about your pine nut sheller--Did you build it? Buy it? I would like my own sheller for the upcoming Colorado harvest this year. Any information you can provide would be super helpful.
Please see my other video of the nut sheller. It was home made with different size plastic buckets and concrete. I can can give you more details if you decide to make your own.
I just saw a video by a Navajo woman that says he culture thinks it is taboo to shake the tree. It "shortens the winter for the tree:, she said......nevermind. just saw a younger Navajo woman's video and she shakes the trees too!
Some us are taught never to shake the tree, and some of us don't listen cause we're diigis. Just take it case by case and use your better judgement and you'll be fine, respect the tree and don't take more than is needed.
If we use bees to harvest honey can we use squirrels to harvest nuts? If free housing, water and exotic snacks are given to the squirrels in return for their labor then maybe lol. Why do I feel someone is already working on this somewhere in the world haha. That would be strange to then classify nuts as not being vegan do to the labor process.
Thousands of years of evolution at work there. If the squirrel doesn’t eat it, you can get it to store it in a specific place. The problem is that squirrels would probably be slower workers than humans. They have tiny hands, pick one nut at a time, and don’t travel large distances. And they really don’t reach any place that we can’t. The pine cones after all come to us when they fall. Squirrels would also cost more to keep than they could ever bring in. Bees are great for keeping because they are amazing workers, travel hundreds of miles in mere hours, get into tiny places we can’t and do it repeatedly. You can also keep thousands of them and they pay more than they cost. Heck, unlike squirrels, bees two greatest benefits (pollinating crops and making excess honey) are to them a mere byproduct. If the squirrel is being fed and housed, it really is earning its keep through work that is unnecessary to its own survival. The bees on the other hand are going to be doing their thing regardless of whether we’re along for the ride. We’re just their agents, not their bosses.
dont swish them up out of the pan in front of the fan.. just keep dumping them completely out of the pan into another container .. repeat until everything has blown out.. since your dumping all the contents directly in front of the fan.. its more efficient.. you will spend less time doing it that way.
Howdy. I'm interested in starting a bunch of pinion on our place near Alamosa do you have viable pinion seed I can buy? Please advise. Pinus edulis is the fonzerili of the high desert.
I do not at the moment. It takes about 60 yrs to get a 6 ft tree from seed. They can live up to 600 yrs. You probably wouldn't live long enough to get nuts from the trees you plant. Best to harvest from surrounding forest. Any nuts you find our buy raw would be viable to plant if you wanted to get them started for future generations.
The soil is off. Alamosa/san Luis valley is a dry lake bed. Just go in the hills near you where they already grow good. Or import soil from those spots cause that alkaline lakebed clay is toxic to pinon. Like a dump truck per tree.
I’ve literally grown up in a town called Pinon hills and never do I see those trees 😹 pine trees yes up on the mountain that’s also not Pinon Hills lol
Not really true about the larger the tree, the larger the nut will be. Some of my best producing trees are not large at all, and some of the larger trees have more nuts but often they are smaller.
WOW what a production line you set up! I’m impressed. My husband is from Lebanon and he looks at our 4 Pine Trees in our suburban backyard and says I wish they had pine nuts! I showed him a couple videos of people harvesting them and he walked away 😂I think he’ll just buy his.
Good job 👍🏻and can I be a friend of yours? 😊
Good vid. Beautiful property!
No wonder I pay top dollar for this whenever I pick up pounds in the Rocky Ford La Junta area.. lotsa work. Good job and thanks for sharing.
Very informative. I do appreciate your video my guy
Genius w the fuzzy blanket!
I really liked your approach to this. Your sheller is a great idea, the designs I have found on YT so far were wooden mills that can be calibrated with washers. Not as easy to make.
r/GrowingPineNuts is a great community for pine nut enthusiasts (it's not only about growing pine nuts). It's really small (114 members). I am the founder there.
I myself have harvested pine nuts but from cultivated Siberian (P. sibirica), Korean (P. koraiensis), and Siberian dwarf (P. pumila) pines in my area (pine nuts range in size from 0.31-0.51 in). Being in Latvia, it might be possible to grow pinon pines (P. edulis) in our climate since the tree has a -28.8 °C cold hardiness limit. I use an aluminum pole to harvest the cones prematurely (Sep 1st for Korean pines), as otherwise they would get eaten by woodpeckers or squirrels.
Also, these cones do not open, so I am designing a pine cone mill (barrel with spikes).
Howdy again! I had not noticed your reply until reviewing seed source just now. I have had a little luck with the seeds we've found so far and are going to keep going on the Pinyon and Rocky Mtn. Juniper. We understand these are trees for the grand kids or whom ever comes later. Sounds like fall is when we need to converse. I'll write that down.
@roberthodge7802 the trees will produce cones with seeds in them every year but they are usually unpollinated and empty inside. Everything has to be just right for for them to pollinate and produce a viable seed. Usually every 7 years you get a crop. We have a good crop this year and it has been nine years since the last one.
wow, that's a labour of love!
you really are the pinion boss! I love how you have this down to a science!
Really interesting. Thank you!!!
Hoping to get some here soon!! They look delicious! I can't wait:)
God that is a lot of work!
A package came for you today
Oh really ? what was it ?
Duds
Duds?
Duds nuts !!!
Nice did you make your sheller?
Pine nut in a half shell, turtle power
Pinon power. 😂
awesome video bro.
And this is why pine nuts are soooo expensive. Rightfully so considering that every aspect is time consuming and laborious, from harvest to shelling.
Right now Pinyon nuts sell for $20 a pound in the Southwest.
the trees produce seeds every 7 to 9 years. I’m only doing this for survival lessons. How do you know which tree or area is ripe and which is
not ripe?
Watch in the spring if they're making cones or not. Almost every year in a given mountain/valley/mountain a stand or two will make nuts. Its only every 4-7 years all the trees produce
To bad there isn’t some machine to help you collect a lot of pinion! One day soon someone will come up with an idea
One of those Boston dynamic robot dogs with special grippers and a vacuum.
That's the problem with you biligáanas though. It doesn't need to be processed in masse, you just do more harm than good to our cultures and land in the Southwest US with that kind of sentiment. Learn how to live within your means instead of always wanting more, and faster.
Thank you so much for this information! Can I ask about your pine nut sheller--Did you build it? Buy it? I would like my own sheller for the upcoming Colorado harvest this year. Any information you can provide would be super helpful.
Please see my other video of the nut sheller. It was home made with different size plastic buckets and concrete. I can can give you more details if you decide to make your own.
@@Doctors101 Thank you so much! I did see it after I posted. I would love to chat with you! Is there a good way to reach you?
@@ericamarciniec4798 I sent you a friend request on Facebook.
His video is " Pinon nut sheller " by Doctors 101. Another is " Universal Nut Sheller " by Pilgrim Prepper. Great idea, thanks for the videos.
You are very clever! I’ve harvested piñon several times in NewMexico. Usually just picked each nut up. How’s the harvest this year, 2021?
We still havnt had any harvest since I made the video. So we are expecting it any year now.
Best 👍
fascinating. No wonder they are very expensive.
Thanks dude.
where's the video on the shelter?
shalom
I just saw a video by a Navajo woman that says he culture thinks it is taboo to shake the tree. It "shortens the winter for the tree:, she said......nevermind. just saw a younger Navajo woman's video and she shakes the trees too!
Some us are taught never to shake the tree, and some of us don't listen cause we're diigis. Just take it case by case and use your better judgement and you'll be fine, respect the tree and don't take more than is needed.
Very clever!
Thanks for the info. So would you say its worth it to even do it?
Its worth it to gather the nuts but not shell them like I did. We enjoy crunching on them, like sunflower seeds, all winter long.
Nice. Thanks for the advice.
If we use bees to harvest honey can we use squirrels to harvest nuts? If free housing, water and exotic snacks are given to the squirrels in return for their labor then maybe lol. Why do I feel someone is already working on this somewhere in the world haha. That would be strange to then classify nuts as not being vegan do to the labor process.
Thousands of years of evolution at work there. If the squirrel doesn’t eat it, you can get it to store it in a specific place. The problem is that squirrels would probably be slower workers than humans. They have tiny hands, pick one nut at a time, and don’t travel large distances. And they really don’t reach any place that we can’t. The pine cones after all come to us when they fall. Squirrels would also cost more to keep than they could ever bring in. Bees are great for keeping because they are amazing workers, travel hundreds of miles in mere hours, get into tiny places we can’t and do it repeatedly. You can also keep thousands of them and they pay more than they cost. Heck, unlike squirrels, bees two greatest benefits (pollinating crops and making excess honey) are to them a mere byproduct. If the squirrel is being fed and housed, it really is earning its keep through work that is unnecessary to its own survival. The bees on the other hand are going to be doing their thing regardless of whether we’re along for the ride. We’re just their agents, not their bosses.
How many pounds do you get per tree?
dont swish them up out of the pan in front of the fan.. just keep dumping them completely out of the pan into another container .. repeat until everything has blown out.. since your dumping all the contents directly in front of the fan.. its more efficient.. you will spend less time doing it that way.
Whats with the hight pitch buzzing?
Separating the nuts from the needles.
Howdy. I'm interested in starting a bunch of pinion on our place near Alamosa do you have viable pinion seed I can buy? Please advise. Pinus edulis is the fonzerili of the high desert.
I do not at the moment. It takes about 60 yrs to get a 6 ft tree from seed. They can live up to 600 yrs. You probably wouldn't live long enough to get nuts from the trees you plant. Best to harvest from surrounding forest. Any nuts you find our buy raw would be viable to plant if you wanted to get them started for future generations.
“New Mexico Piñon Nut Co.” still has some raw from 2020 harvest; just planted a couple hundred yesterday!
For my descendents apparently... ;)
The soil is off. Alamosa/san Luis valley is a dry lake bed. Just go in the hills near you where they already grow good. Or import soil from those spots cause that alkaline lakebed clay is toxic to pinon. Like a dump truck per tree.
What month is harvest season?
@@amagictouch Middle of October, but the trees only produce seeds once every 7 to 9 years.
I’ve literally grown up in a town called Pinon hills and never do I see those trees 😹 pine trees yes up on the mountain that’s also not Pinon Hills lol
that’s like the housing developments “fox run”, Panther Valley” etc namesakes Gone!
Do you sell your pinons?? I'd like to buy a pound
We do sell them. But since trees only produce approximately every seven years, we have nothing for at least a few more years.
I don't know about"like a boss" maybe more like a worker, since u do the work.
Very expensive to buy in store...
No wonder they go for up to $40/lb.
@Doctors101
hi, I live nearby, do you need help harvesting this year?
about every seven years to the trees will produce nuts. Keep me in mind, 6 more years to go.
Doctors101 but every year they will produce pine cones?
Do I have tenidus or is the audio just horrible
The audio is horrible. Sorry, poor camera. Didnt realize it was like that till I uploaded it
I love piñon nuts, but they are super expensive. They are $40 to $50 a pound!
John 3;16
Not really true about the larger the tree, the larger the nut will be. Some of my best producing trees are not large at all, and some of the larger trees have more nuts but often they are smaller.
You are correct
That buzzing noise was insufferable
Absolutely agree! Got a new camera now