Idk if it's just me realizing it, but Andrew is being so helpful to Shane throughout this series. He's being emotionally supportive of Shane through all the stress he's enduring and think that's absolutely beautiful.
What if Greg is the sociopath, meaning Logan and Jake grew up under the roof of a sociopath... which is why they have the tendencies because they have learnt them from their father.
I know I almost cried acually... cause a son needs his father, and not just for discipline but fo someone to go to to talk about. Sons need their father more than they need a coach
In terms of production, I think something Shane is doing that is so unique is having a dialogue with the cameraman which makes it seem almost like hes having a conversation with the watcher. Love it, so creative
I just picture Shane, lying down, worrying and reading comments. If you happen to read mine, just know im proud to say ive been following you and your content since i was in 7th grade, which means 8 years ago and your channel has grown into something so beautiful. The thing that distinguishes you except for the tremendous talent is the warm heart you have and the honesty you share with your audience. So anyone who is criticizing is doing it to eat off your spotlight, your views , your fame. So keep going Shane, and please never change, unless you think you should.
Damn, Shane is genuine. He's pouring his heart into this series, he's not trying to be disrespectful to those with sociopathic tendencies, psychological/ neurological disorders, etc .. he's just trying to get a clear picture of who Jake and Logan are. I personally think it's fascinating, especially to see the different perspectives he's getting from people they're close to. I really love these documentaries, and I think Shanes work should be appreciated. It's not that he's trying to make people feel sorry for Jake/ Logan, or even that he's trying to paint them in a negative way-- he's just shedding light on who they are off camera and what made them the way they are. Psychology is incredibly fascinating
Honestly thank you for this comment. So far I'm happy for this series because like you said it's interesting and it also puts out mental health/disorder awareness and how people can act when either not treated or not grown up in the right way. I don't agree on what either of what the Paul brother's have done but now we might get insight of why they did it.
But you can't just diagnose someone as a sociopath unless you're a psychologist and have spent at least a month of numerous sessions knowing their symptoms, it's just really unprofessional and the last episode he showed them as creepy, it's like Tumblr kids diagnosing themselves and their friends lmao
@@oight He isn't just diagnosing Jake and his family, he ASKED Jake before hand about researching into it. Now he's going to be talking to those around Jake then talk to him directly. Shane is a fixer and wants to do his best on trying to understand Jake and help him on the right path so he doesn't do dumb and dangerous shit.
@@coolperson4418 It's like your friend asking if they can take a pic of you, you say yes. But they wait until u accidentally trip and fall on mud/dog poop, then they take the pic. They knew beforehand u gonna fall, they just lured u into consenting to something u actually don't want to. I bury such people alive.
T҉h҉e҉ ҉D҉a҉w҉n҉ ҉R҉i҉g҉h҉t҉ ҉B҉e҉f҉o҉r҉e҉ ҉ T҉h҉e҉ ҉S҉u҉n҉-҉R҉i҉s҉e҉ ҉I҉s҉ ҉T҉h҉e҉ ҉D҉a҉r҉k҉e҉s҉t҉ wtf are you talking about that doesn’t make any sense scenarios are completely different
@@Qrw-zd4xw Broken down: Your friend asks if they can take a pic of you = Him asking permission to blindfold the girl and if she can be kissed. Friends take pic of you fall = That old guy kisses the girl. Your friends cheat their way out by saying "u said it was ok to take pic!" = He probably told her that she was the one who gave permission to be blindfolded and kissed. You not saying out loud "only normal pics allowed, no weird pics" doesn't mean you consent for bad pics = Her not saying "I don't wanna kiss your dad, only you" doesn't mean she consents to kissing his dad.
I understand that he just wants to make a interesting video and he did a good job but some sociopaths have bpd which makes them want to please others. but I am not offended
This video made me so sad. It looks like they put content over actual valuable family time. Their mom also looks so confused and seems to vlog to 'fit in' with the rest of her family. What a world we live in where some of us choose TH-cam over family.
his family and life is not normal at all and it makes me sad for judging him on the outside he looks like he has an amazing life deep down you can see he isn't really the same jake as jake on camera
Adam Prince Of Eternia I’ve seen the sex tape, the bed matches the same one that’s on his Instagram. But the girl being 15 is rumours. I don’t know if that’s true - **edit** it probably is true
At the part where Logan threw the plate you could see surprise on Jakes face and when the dog whimpered Jake said “it’s ok buddy”, that’s the most genuine I’ve ever seen him. He seemed like he actually felt empathy for the dog. Edit: time stamp is 17:26 Honestly I hate saying this but I’m starting to feel bad for him, it seems like he had a pretty bad childhood and even a pretty bad life right now. (Also after this episode I’m positive that he’s not a sociopath, he’s just super screwed in the head because of his parents and brother)
He was a child actor and big behavior earned him money and attention a few smiles along the way too. He was raised to be this way 😔 it is very sad , anti social to the letter
Poor Shane...he's soo genuine, and doesn't try to hurt anybody, but he's messing with some of the Drama Queens of youtube. Of course they're going to make a show out of it. I just hope Shane doesn't gets affected about what they say. You can see by his intro that he's really trying to make things right and that the Paul's (mostly Logan) are just planning to sabotage him. Stay true to yourself Shane, we're all with you on this ❤
The point where jake goes to the pup and says “it’s ok buddy” n gives him a kiss is a BIG TALE on his inner heart.. you can tell he has deeper issues because his influence but the young caring boy is definitely inside this shit is so sad to watch omg..
I'll be honest, I cannot stand Jake. I feel Logan's grown recently and I can tolerate him more. BUT that clip is the one, out of everything I have ever saw of Jake that actually made me think hes not a complete and total douchebag bruh dude.
I really get the sense that Greg was verbally and maybe even physically abusive towards Logan and Jake. Seems like he always forced them to compete and become better than the other, and Logan being the older sibling usually outdid Jake and grew up to be the "favorite son". Imagine growing up in a household where you and your sibling(s) have to compete for your parent's approval and affection and that being encouraged even in your adult life. That's gotta mess you up. It doesn't excuse Jake for his terrible and unruly behavior, but there's a difference in behaving like a tool because you think you're better than everyone else, and behaving like a tool because you feel like shit and acts that anger out on others. This family needs some intense therapy.
I agree with you 100%. I also think the dad is trying to live through them, he acts very immature. Also, him going in and allegedly firing people and trying to kinda take charge of team 10, maybe Jake let's all this happen and doesn't really stop it because he still wants that approval from his dad. The mom could feel left out in this and vlogs because she thinks if she shares this huge aspect of their lives with them she thinks maybe it will bring them closer. I'm just speculating, it is a messed up situation in my eyes.
Rebecca Mitchell I was thinking that too. Being raised by an actual sociopath it’s more likely that behavior will rub off on you. Apparently the guy worked in the military so his profession was either to yell or be yelled at for motivation and he used the same tactics raising his sons. And now, that’s how he runs Team 10. I think Logan has benefitted more from this upbringing while Jake, being the youngest, was left a lot more hurt and neglected. That’s the feeling I’m getting.
I think: The mom is just trying to vlog and make videos like her both of her sons. The dad has something wrong with him and its rubbing off on his kids. The sons are starting to act like their dad.
But their mum suggested nudity of her sons multiple times in her thumbnails and have their high school photos, that kind of lack of boundaries seems like the kind of thing that would have been there for a long time. And I get the impression they don't know how to be close (again, a longer and deeper issue) with her vlogging to have something in common with her sons and the way Jake didn't seem to want her too but she did anyway. Maybe she's oblivious but I think they don't have a good relationship from this video and maybe she's trying to 'fix' their bad relationship by making it look like they have a good one online..?
Aidan Christian yeah perfectly fine for sociopaths that screw people over and cause complete train wrecks and ruin peoples lives.I dated a sociopath they are a compulsive liars and cheaters at best and violent murderers at worst and it’s unfortunate that they even exist. not interested in your sympathy for sociopaths
@@ratherbenapping10 Wow, that is a generalization. You cannot judge a group of people over the actions of one person. Its a mental disorder, not the kkk, be a little more sensitive with your words.
I feel bad for the mom. The dad has been wholeheartedly accepted into their crew and they clearly aspire to be like him while their mother is just kind of awkwardly pushed aside and treated like an outsider for doing pretty much the same thing as the father, except in a more reasonable way.
I don’t care if I end up feeling sorry for Jake Paul at the end of this series. It just means that I feel sorry for him, it doesn’t mean that I respect him or like him and it doesn’t excuse his behaviour. It just gives us a reason why he behaves the way he does. No one is forcing him to be the way he is, he is making these decisions on his own. Also, Shane is actually meeting these people and talking to them and he’s a sympathetic guy. Don’t get angry at him for feeling sorry for Jake. We’re watching from afar and aren’t as close to the situation as Shane. Just because he feels sorry for Jake doesn’t mean you have to too. Shane isn’t trying to manipulate you into loving Jake Paul, he’s just telling his story.
This comment perfectly articulates my feelings and thoughts! Shane is an empath so it is understandable that he is feeling sorry for him. Jake has done bad things and no amount of back story will change his actions.
I'm really starting to understand why this series has been so incredible difficult for Shane. I feel like every step of the way there has been some kind of road block for him to get past. Initially it was the backlash from even doing the series on Jake, then it was demonizing mental illness, not wanting to offend the parents, not wanting to offend Logan, etc. He really looks at this series from every perspective and he's smart about how he presents his content. I've always loved Shane, but I feel like now he's really matured in the youtuber he is today. Thank you Shane for not giving up on this series. You have had so many reasons to just give up on this, but regardless of all the obstacles you keep going forward. You're a living legend, icon, and Queen.
Exactly! I feel like he needs to calm down about offending Logan and stuff because sociopaths wouldn’t get offended that much from this video. If they did then they would be more of a narcissist.
I understand what you're saying. It's about more than just offending Logan though. It's about offending Logan's 18 million subscribers and the backlash that comes along with that.
The way jakes mom is grasping for attention and trying to live up to the standards of Jake and Logan makes me cry. She is just trying to fit in. I’m so sorry.😣😢
I’m in love with this series. I definitely feel like Jake doing youtube and having to be happy all the time for the camera doesn’t help his situation, he was doing daily vlogs with high energy for so long and I think we can all tell that wasn’t his actual personality, It’s mentally draining. Recently I noticed he switched to sit down videos weekly, good for him.
I think the Paul brothers dad is a sociopath and they have learned that behavior from the father thinking it is acceptable. The mom seems to be an enabler. And just lets them get their way because she is afraid of losing love from them.
Their mom also refuses to accept responsibility for her kids being assholes, and as Shane showed, she blames it all on their dad. Yes, their dad is the epitome of toxic masculinity, but it seems their mom has an "oh well, it's their dad's fault" attitude (external locust of control mentality). Sad thing is, she's an RN at the Cleveland Clinic....I'd never want someone who enabled sociopathic tendencies in her children to be part of a medical provider team.
DanceMomsNews that’s the point. It’s Bendy and the Ink Machine oldschool 1940s cartoon music, known for being intentionally happy yet unintentionally creepy. Horror games (like Bendy) use it all the time as an aesthetic juxtaposition. Seems like Shane wasn’t exactly happy with Logan’s response video and declination to have a conversation.
You glossed over that clip where Logan says "You beat my ass, dude!" to his dad. The whole 8-part series *solved* right there. A very common trait in abusive homes - the older sibling is beaten while the younger sibling is spared, often resulting in sibling rivalry and resentment. Sound familiar?
Definitely familiar. It sucks being the oldest and your younger sibling gets away with literally every damn thing. I still currently live in an abusive home and it still happens but god forbid you say anything to your parents about it.
i really liked how this video had less of the creepy cutaways. not because i thought you were milking the whole “sociopath” thing, the cutaways just got distracting after a while
I don’t think Shane is trying to excuse Jake’s bad behavior. I think he’s trying to understand it. He’s coming from a place of curiosity and compassion. Feeling empathy for someone doesn’t mean you have to excuse their bad behavior. It’s about looking at it in more than a black/white way, to ask “why does he do this” and not accepting “because he’s a bad person.” Saying someone can do no wrong is a similar injustice to saying someone can do no right. If no one believes Jake could be capable of good decisions, where is the motivation to ever step outside of the demonic box people have painted for him? Not to say his bad actions should be swept under a rug, and not to say you can’t dislike him for choosing to do those bad things... but I think the ideal result of this series, and perhaps the purpose, is to almost expect better of him with a more well-rounded mindset.
This comment is perfect. Everyone is too quick to write them off as evil monsters. People don't do bad shit for no reason, it's always deeper than that.
Not sure how that would work, as Shane & Trish are VERY close friends. With her mental disorders, I think that might start a drama & ruin their long-standing friendship...
He should do one on Nickocado Avocado but I think just like what Shane got before this series he got hate because he was gonna talk about Jake which a lot of people don't really like same with Nick he is kinda controversial cause of the scandals and a lot of people also don't like him No hate to anybody
This interactive aspect of fans and haters reacting to the series and shane adressing them is awesome. This Episode really put an interesting twist to the series which I really like.
shane's facial expressions while watching the entire paul family's videos is such a mood tbh sksksks just a whirlwind of emotions from laughing to crying.
*SPOILER WARNING FOR THE SERIES FINALE!* It has been leaked that Shane is planning on completely exposing Logan Paul at the end of this. The police have finally replied to Shane and confirmed that Logan faked the suicide, the dead body was actually just an actor standing by the tree set-up by Logan. He scripted everything including the apology and aftermath. Matty Love exposed this in The Mind of Logan Paul. I have put all the police links into a youtube playlist for those that asked. Sorry if I spoiled the ending but this is the truth
*FINALE SPOILER ALERT!!* Stop reading if you don't want to find out what happens. Shane has finally received a response from the Japanese police who have confirmed that Logan faked the dead body. It was fake. Logan used an actor to stage the entire suicide. There was no actual dead victim. This has been debunked in Matty Love's The Mind of Logan Paul. I have put all the links and police reports into a TH-cam playlist for those that asked. Help spread the truth about Logan
To add to my last comment... I LOVED what you did with this episode of the series. With the recent clips of your thoughts on the audience's opinions on the series thus far. It makes it feel more personal and current. Like we're on this journey with you not just watching the aftermath of what you went through while filming. It's a really nice addition that brings more substance
Sorsha totally agree!!! i liked that he added current info & adressed certain people’s thoughts from the last episode!!(: made it feel very genuine & shows he cares about the people involved & he’s not lot other youtubers who only care about the views!!!
I kinda don't get it, I hear "I wanted to be the best dad" what's bad about that? I'm thinking dad as in when the boy grows up to be a father to others.
plus at least when Logan threw the plate Jake said 'its okay buddy''and kissed the dog but Logan screamed' cALm dOWn'' so I guess that shows jakes a little more caring lol
@@lw9849 its a word I know but can't really explain... Its like... Support and like. Like I STAN Shane meaning I love and support him. But some people say it in an ironic way like Shane did when he said that
i feel like jake paul isnt sociopath but logan is. siblings usually copy their older part because they want to be like them and i feel like jake just picked up aspects of logan. but thats just a theory... *a paul theory*
I’ve been convinced that their father has something wrong with him and the sons came out how they did because of his abuse and that’s why the parents are divorced
Tori Darling yeah they seem to get a lot of personality form their dad. I mean I ain’t saying at his age he can’t have fun, but he’s pretty wild acting and a little immature in my opinion for me. I forget he’s their dad lol
I was thinking the same thing! Maybe the father is the sociopath and the two boys learned from his behavior to make who they are today. Their dad has always given me the creeps
Totally agree, the dad seems fuck up, in the beginning of the video Logan said something about why did you always beat my ass when I was younger? And the dad was like , did I?? Come on now🙄
watching this back now that the palette's out, it's shocking the difference between his current series & the past ones. this time he's not using his platform to help other people (jake, jeffree, bunny, etc.), the new series is about his own success & gaining a healthier mindset for himself. it's beautiful
I don’t like Jake or Logan, but it seems that no matter what Jake does, Logan always finds a way to get involved. Even a documentary on JAKE has to involve Logan. It really just goes back to the whole competition thing. It’s always about who can be more popular. I don’t like Jake by any means, but I have to feel for him in this context. It’s like with his brother around, he doesn’t have his own identity...
I never thought I'd say this, but I kind of get the impression that Jake actually is an empathetic and caring person deep down, but he's a product of his environment. Military upbringings can be rough. Divorce can be rough. Sure, it might sound like a simple thing to get over, but things like that can be traumatic for a kid who is still trying to figure out who they are. Logan comes off as super arrogant to me, and maybe like "the favorite." I'm starting to feel different about Jake though... This doesn't mean I will start watching his videos or anything, I just don't watch that kind of content, I don't find it interesting. But I find this story very interesting, and I'm excited to see where this series goes.
*PEWDIEPIE CAN FINALLY END LOGAN PAUL! THIS LATEST NEWS IS THE END OF LOGAN!* Police in Japan have just said the suicide was "a staged prank"! The dead body wasn't real and Logan faked the whole thing! Tell Gloria so he can take down Logan for good off TH-cam! (and yes I put my sources into a youtube playlist for those that asked for proof, i put the police statements in there too!) Tell Poppy!!!
Exactly! To me it also feels like they are trying to one up each other, feeling like the one who comes on top, or being the best will make their father love them. Make them worthy. And I also think that their father raised them to be overly manly, to think that they only matter to him if they behave like they do, and crying or showing your emotions in unmanly. And he seems overly controlling. No wonder they are so fucked up.
Your videos never actually feel like they’re 40 mins long. I find myself stuck to the screen and I get so invested that time flys and by the end I think it’s only been 5 mins. That’s how you know it’s good, major television series don’t even get me that entranced👏
It makes me upset that Logan declined Shane’s offer to do the interview, but the fact he did it on his channel is very interesting to me. Because Logan can CONTROL what happens on his channel, what makes it and doesn’t make it. He is the creator/ director of his channel. If Shane did it Shane would do it his way, in conclusion maybe Logan was scared of how Shane would produce the interview. Which is understandable. No one wants to be the bad guy.
I was relieved logan declined because we could tell Logan was trying to steal focus from Jake and now manipulating Shane and using him for views, I was screaming at my screen at the beginning for Shane to open his eyes, he's just using you lol. also logan knows shit about sociopathy, I bet he saw all the backlash and decided to use it for his advantage (his video to shane is a proof of that)
But also Shane has made it clear he doesn't like the Pauls so I get it. Bias is a given. I'm a Shane fan. I see this. But I also get why people are annoyed. Just remember as viewers we aren't entitled to everything we want.
ok, i am not crazy about Jake paul at all, but i don't get why everyone is hating on Shane for feeling bad for Jake. I appreciate that Shane trys to give everyone a chance. I used to HATE jefree star, but after watching your series i felt like i understood him and now i know why he is how he is, and i feel bad for the way i used to think about him. Shane i know you probaly won't see this comment, but i want to say thank you for helping me see people differntly.
This is supposed to teach people things, not to make people care or feel bad foe Jake, but of course Shane feels bad for him cause that's just who he is. He cares a lot about people and he sees that he is human too, even if a bad one, so he'll care for him.
Mande Marso I think Shane can feel bad for Jake all he wants it doesn’t mean we have to feel the same way. It’s an interesting documentary and there’s nothing wrong with learning about why the Paul brothers are the way they are. If you don’t like it then don’t watch lol
Okay so we all know Shane is wonderful, but why is nobody talking about Andrew?? He's been so insightful throughout all of the documentary series Shane has done. I think he's had some really thoughtful comments and opinions, and he's contributing a lot to the series.
I think Shane and Andrew are making the perfect team. Those series are interesting, entertaining and so new for TH-cam. I want more but understand how much work it is
Its not really some of the tendancies are the same for example. Does someone who says theyre 'savage' (i just threw up from that word) care about what happens to themselves if it makes them seem cooler. No. Does a sociopath care about what happens to themselves if it helps thenselves. No. Essentially its the same thing. He actually had alot of logic behind his explanation. And this is coming from an 11 year old
I found it a little bit weird that Logan Paul was all chill and respectful towards Shane over the DMs on Twitter/Social Media Accounts. But then he goes and posted a video on his channel, kinda lowkey lashing out about what Shane said. Like he was manipulating the situation in a way, kinda, to get views and stuff.
When Shane put the clip of Logans video i thought "wtf, why be so civil over dms but so horrible in a video". Also, notice how he was defending HIMSELF over a documentary series about his brother
Honestly with that I think it comes down to the views and possibly Logan's branding at this point. I've never really watched his videos so I can't say for sure if this is what's happening, but I've noticed that a lot of TH-camrs will either adjust the way they make their videos to get less backlash, or they'll adjust to the backlash and steer straight into it. So maybe he was less upset than the video showed, but he played it up because "everyone expects this already." Or maybe he made the video while everything was very fresh in his mind and then talked to Shane after, and at that point he'd calmed down.
Life of Amoree I wouldn't make a video to get views. Honestly I dont care about Social Media, yes its handy at times. But some of those times it's the worst thing ever - and either putting up fake drama or anything because of views/watch/subscribers... is kinda ridiculous. People like watching real things, and nothing fake.
it’s annoying that he feels he can’t feel a certain way because some of yall keep pressuring him to not victimise jake paul. he’s NOT. just because he feels bad for jake doesn’t mean he wants everyone else to feel the same.
cat valentine Right? It just proves that Shane has empathy. Isn’t that what good ppl do? Look for the good in others unless & until they’re proven wrong?
That's not the point tho.. watch vid of PewDiePie about Shane. It's not about him feeling bad for someone, don't mind him feeling bad for the Paul's. That's Shane's opinion. He's just taking it a little to far. I mean it's about serious issues like mental health but the horror sounds en music, the images.. And don't get me wrong I like Shane. Just not the way he makes this series.
25:40 The fact that Jake called his mother by her first name instead of something like "mom" just makes my heart hurt, man. And how she responds with a sad little okay afterwards. Like, fuck dude
I know, that's not right. But what I was thinking was in that clip Jake and Erika ignore her and Jake avoids her. Both of them spend all day every day working on making content for multiple channels to be edited and uploaded in the same day. That's like, a lot for someone mentally and emotionally. When you're spending time with family, you don't want a camera to be following you around for your private life too unless you've discussed it and agreed on it beforehand. You just want to enjoy time with your family, not some filtered edited version of time with your family. It's just messy from both sides.
@@lauraelizabethbrown I agree completely. This family seems pretty messed up just from this small amount of evidence. I hope Shane can get more in depth with everything that has or is happening in their whole family and friends situation, so that we can see the whole picture.
Not saying this is the case, but just because he called his mother by her name instead of “mom” doesn’t necessarily mean that he isn’t close or doesn’t view her as a mother figure. I have friends of mine who call their parents by their first names but are as close as you could get in a parent/child setting.
@@kaitlin448 of course! That is for sure a possibility. I'm just pointing out this small detail i noticed that made me uncomfortable/a lil sad. But he could totally just calling her Pam for no apparent reason.
I don't feel that Shane is doing anything wrong. I work for high security psychiatric hospital which houses criminally insane patients. I'm a psychiatric nurse practitioner. And I think by questioning mental health it opens up a dialogue and discussion and brings it out of the shadows of society.
I literally wish I didn't watch that. I'm just shivering from the heebie jeebies. Kissing the same girl your son has kissed? WTF???? To prove a point? Holy shit that old man is weird and immature.
I feel like Jake is the result of a Dad who is abusive, Mom who didn't really try hard enough to fix it, and a brother who is constantly one-upping him and making him feel like he is lesser. I feel like the dad was one of those "YOU HAVE TO BE A MAN, THIS IS WHAT A MAN IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE" people. Like, I feel Greg forced an image of what he felt a man is/should be onto his kids, simply because that's how he feels. If Greg hadn't forced them to work out and compete against each other, Logan and Jake would have been much better people. Greg (and maybe Pam idk) turned two innocent brothers against each other and turned them to some got damn maniacs. Here's my final word on this episode; When given the choice, I think it's better for a child to have no Dad than a abusive one.
I agree. At one point my dad jabbed me with a ski pole and kicked me down a slope with his ski. Because I wasn’t directly behind him on a busy slope. The thing is, I was.
True I feel like they grew up in a household where there was little to no rules and they rarely got punished and they were not tought moral ethics which is why Logan made the suicide forest video. Had Logan been raised the right way he would have been smart enough to know how bad of an idea it is. Zoella and her brother's videos feel more real to me cause they don't try to constantly one up each other and they seem like they care for one another. I don't feel that with Jake and Logan.
Or it's a healthy adult thing to be able to take criticism, adapt, and pay attention to what other people are expressing? He's trying to teach his viewers how to be reasonable and rational and all so many people are saying is NOOO NEVER CHANGE STOP WORRYING ABOUT IT, which is just so short-sighted. That kind of mindset isn't healthy. Your opinion should be able to change and grow based on new information.
Cobaltik If all you bitches want to do is tell him to stop doing what he wants and pointing out everything he’s doing. THEN FUCK OFF. He just put out a tweet basically saying fuck you to all you bitches.
I agree with what Andrew said. Jake is a byproduct of his surroundings.. with a father like that and an older brother pretty much exactly the same, youd probably be bullied and put down endlessly because you weren't a "Savage" like them, and it looks like the mother has been under the fathers thumb so there's no getting out of a situation like that. Purely speculation though.
Ignore what I’m about to say but I don’t agree with you, she seems a lot like my own mom. Tiny, calm, sweet, caring, emotionally submissive but strong. Greg probably was very abusive towards her and we don’t even know, he even seems like the type of person to do so.
Shane, it makes me genuinely sad that you worry about people accusing you of humanizing Jake and/or his brother. I think one of the most wonderful things about you is your capacity to bring out - if not likeable qualities - relatable qualities in people who millions deem monstrous, and may very well misunderstand to a significant extent because they don't see the whole picture. I'm a firm believer that one of the biggest problems in our society right now is how quickly we are to dehumanize entire swaths of people without giving them a chance, or the benefit of the doubt. That is so damn toxic. What your recent work has done is gives us a wider view of the lives of really controversial people, and lets us make up our minds about whether we think they're full of shit or maybe kinda decent - an opportunity maybe we wouldn't allow ourselves if we just watched their respective content. Regardless of how this series turns out, I hope you take immense pride in the work you're doing and the fact that maybe it challenges people to consider humanizing those they've previously misunderstood or pegged wrong. That's really not that bad of a thing, if you ask me. It's honest. It's ok for people to check themselves. You have a gift, bud. And I thank you. ❤️
InternalScreeching totally. Just because she’s technically not “underage” doesn’t really make it any better honestly. It’s disgusting that he’s in competition with his own son to see who KISSES better. Dad has no fucking business being physically affectionate/intimate/etc. with a girl his kids’ age. NO FUCKING BUSINESS.
I have a theory. It’s just a theory tho. Maybe their dad is the sociopath and the reason Logan and jake act like this isn’t because they’re sociopaths themselves but because they grew up and was raised by one. Maybe they just picked up their dads tendencies. And their mom felt too helpless to defend them or do anything about it.
Also remember when Andrew never laughed in videos? That was a sad, dark time. OMG thanks for the likes guys! Literally our dream would be to collab with Shane on mental health and helping others, he is such an inspiration
With the plate smashing instance, Logan smashed the plate, Greg showed no empathy or no worry to the situation & Jake said”Its okay buddy.” Then kissed the dog. 😕
I call my mum by her first name and we are super close. It started as a joke years ago and just stuck. People comment when they hear and we are just so used to it. Guess that is just our case though.
My dad was a sociopath, so growing up I witnessed it all the time. To me, Jake doesn't strike me as a sociopath, sociopathic tendencies yes like Logan claims to be. Logan, on the other hand, seems to be a sociopath. What he tweeted and got Shane's attention was manipulative to get Shane to contact him. He was angry about being exposed like that. If you are manipulating people and you're doing a good job of it, you don't want anything messing that up and Shane doing this definitely would mess it up big time for him. When talking to Shane he also spun it to make himself sound like he's not as bad as he actually is. Which he's not, it's not HIM it's the disorder, nothing he can actually control. But him turning down the interview with Shane and making a video of his own is also what makes me think he's a sociopath. He knew he'd get views for his own video like that, he can manipulate his audience to thinking what he wants, if he met with Shane it would be harder and the views would all be on Shane's video not his own. On another note, their dad definitely seems to be the reason why they are the way they are. I honestly feel bad for their mom. She just doesn't seem to know who she really is because of being married to Greg. I hope she finds herself. Z
My uncle is and always will be a sociopath and I hate him for fucking me up mentally, ( he played so much mind games and he killed all my animals) now he’s in a mental institution, I know I should be happy but I can’t... I guess things take time
The way that people are raised is probably the biggest factor (aside from other trauma) in their mental state. That’s all I’m going to say. If a parent is a narcissist (totally hypothetically) that can DEEPLY affect the way a child reacts to situations that might push them one way or another.
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shane ♥️
I love you
Ilysm😭
wow I’m earlyyyy love you ❤️
Love you!
Idk if it's just me realizing it, but Andrew is being so helpful to Shane throughout this series. He's being emotionally supportive of Shane through all the stress he's enduring and think that's absolutely beautiful.
Tic Tac ikr!!
Yes I know
Yes Andrew has helped Shane soooo much through all the stress and without his support I don’t think this would have been a series
ik :) it always feels like they have a closer relationship then with Garret and all the others
I freaking love Andrews he seems like an awesome guy!
What if Greg is the sociopath, meaning Logan and Jake grew up under the roof of a sociopath... which is why they have the tendencies because they have learnt them from their father.
from what was showed, it almost seems like the father is the problem that they turned out like this
Oof that makes so much sense
Lottie BROOO THATS TUFF
I genuinely believe that has a LOT to do with it...
Lottie and that’s also the reason why their mom broke up with greg as well...cause she was maybe creeped out or scared of him!!
"I have to say a joke or else I'm going to have a breakdown"
LITERALLY ME EVERY DAY
Shae-Lynn Campbell I’m quaking😂😂
“I think that jake doesn’t really have a dad, he just has a boss”
That hits hard
Its sad
...man that is sad.
Never thought I’d even ever feel bad for Jake Paul, but I see that not everything is his fault. A Sociopath isn’t born one, it’s made.
lmao samee
I know I almost cried acually... cause a son needs his father, and not just for discipline but fo someone to go to to talk about. Sons need their father more than they need a coach
In terms of production, I think something Shane is doing that is so unique is having a dialogue with the cameraman which makes it seem almost like hes having a conversation with the watcher. Love it, so creative
Lol sure
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Omaima We love Andrew (camera man)
Except Andrews irritating voice and laugh.
Omaima I agree Shane is forever a caring person and I hope this doesn’t end him
I just picture Shane, lying down, worrying and reading comments.
If you happen to read mine, just know im proud to say ive been following you and your content since i was in 7th grade, which means 8 years ago and your channel has grown into something so beautiful. The thing that distinguishes you except for the tremendous talent is the warm heart you have and the honesty you share with your audience. So anyone who is criticizing is doing it to eat off your spotlight, your views , your fame. So keep going Shane, and please never change, unless you think you should.
Shane is too nice for this. 😔
Damn, Shane is genuine. He's pouring his heart into this series, he's not trying to be disrespectful to those with sociopathic tendencies, psychological/ neurological disorders, etc .. he's just trying to get a clear picture of who Jake and Logan are. I personally think it's fascinating, especially to see the different perspectives he's getting from people they're close to. I really love these documentaries, and I think Shanes work should be appreciated. It's not that he's trying to make people feel sorry for Jake/ Logan, or even that he's trying to paint them in a negative way-- he's just shedding light on who they are off camera and what made them the way they are. Psychology is incredibly fascinating
Take the redpill on constantly triggered SJWs.
Honestly thank you for this comment. So far I'm happy for this series because like you said it's interesting and it also puts out mental health/disorder awareness and how people can act when either not treated or not grown up in the right way. I don't agree on what either of what the Paul brother's have done but now we might get insight of why they did it.
But you can't just diagnose someone as a sociopath unless you're a psychologist and have spent at least a month of numerous sessions knowing their symptoms, it's just really unprofessional and the last episode he showed them as creepy, it's like Tumblr kids diagnosing themselves and their friends lmao
@@oight He isn't just diagnosing Jake and his family, he ASKED Jake before hand about researching into it. Now he's going to be talking to those around Jake then talk to him directly. Shane is a fixer and wants to do his best on trying to understand Jake and help him on the right path so he doesn't do dumb and dangerous shit.
the kissing video is repugnant even if the girl wasn't underaged. still a gross abuse of power.
I agree, but she gave consent to them.
@@coolperson4418 It's like your friend asking if they can take a pic of you, you say yes. But they wait until u accidentally trip and fall on mud/dog poop, then they take the pic. They knew beforehand u gonna fall, they just lured u into consenting to something u actually don't want to.
I bury such people alive.
T҉h҉e҉ ҉D҉a҉w҉n҉ ҉R҉i҉g҉h҉t҉ ҉B҉e҉f҉o҉r҉e҉ ҉ T҉h҉e҉ ҉S҉u҉n҉-҉R҉i҉s҉e҉ ҉I҉s҉ ҉T҉h҉e҉ ҉D҉a҉r҉k҉e҉s҉t҉ wtf are you talking about that doesn’t make any sense scenarios are completely different
@@Qrw-zd4xw Broken down:
Your friend asks if they can take a pic of you = Him asking permission to blindfold the girl and if she can be kissed.
Friends take pic of you fall = That old guy kisses the girl.
Your friends cheat their way out by saying "u said it was ok to take pic!" = He probably told her that she was the one who gave permission to be blindfolded and kissed.
You not saying out loud "only normal pics allowed, no weird pics" doesn't mean you consent for bad pics =
Her not saying "I don't wanna kiss your dad, only you" doesn't mean she consents to kissing his dad.
Consent 22 I don’t care it’s disgusting to me
I like how Shane actually responds to backlash/questions when other TH-camrs just ignore it
I dont think its that easy for everyone .
He's the goat
I understand that he just wants to make a interesting video and he did a good job but some sociopaths have bpd which makes them want to please others. but I am not offended
*Plays happy song*
*Makes it even scarier*
I think that was the point lol
Collin Abroadcast I agree
Ahhhh Collin
🤣🤣🤣
bring me the horizon?
This video made me so sad. It looks like they put content over actual valuable family time. Their mom also looks so confused and seems to vlog to 'fit in' with the rest of her family. What a world we live in where some of us choose TH-cam over family.
Lucy Olive exactly I felt bad for her. Like she trying to be apart of their lives and Jake just isn’t having it. It honestly hurts.
his family and life is not normal at all and it makes me sad for judging him on the outside he looks like he has an amazing life deep down you can see he isn't really the same jake as jake on camera
Lucy Olive that’s so truuue
“Was it dawg?”
“No it was just dog.”
“Oh!!”
“Yeah, we stan!!”
There’s something about Greg Paul that’s really unnerving. He gives off a controlling, creepy vibe
someone was saying he made a sex tape with a 15 yr old but idk if its true
tbh he gives me a domestic abuser vibe i would know
Adam Prince Of Eternia I’ve seen the sex tape, the bed matches the same one that’s on his Instagram. But the girl being 15 is rumours. I don’t know if that’s true - **edit** it probably is true
I honestly don't see his creepy side that well but he might be controlling for sure
@@adamprinceofeternia1820 yeah I saw it ...........
At the part where Logan threw the plate you could see surprise on Jakes face and when the dog whimpered Jake said “it’s ok buddy”, that’s the most genuine I’ve ever seen him. He seemed like he actually felt empathy for the dog.
Edit: time stamp is 17:26
Honestly I hate saying this but I’m starting to feel bad for him, it seems like he had a pretty bad childhood and even a pretty bad life right now.
(Also after this episode I’m positive that he’s not a sociopath, he’s just super screwed in the head because of his parents and brother)
me too, I don't know why. I feel bad.
Katelyn Krewson me too :/
I saw that
He was a child actor and big behavior earned him money and attention a few smiles along the way too. He was raised to be this way 😔 it is very sad , anti social to the letter
I don’t know guys
Poor Shane...he's soo genuine, and doesn't try to hurt anybody, but he's messing with some of the Drama Queens of youtube. Of course they're going to make a show out of it. I just hope Shane doesn't gets affected about what they say. You can see by his intro that he's really trying to make things right and that the Paul's (mostly Logan) are just planning to sabotage him. Stay true to yourself Shane, we're all with you on this ❤
The point where jake goes to the pup and says “it’s ok buddy” n gives him a kiss is a BIG TALE on his inner heart.. you can tell he has deeper issues because his influence but the young caring boy is definitely inside this shit is so sad to watch omg..
ikr
Im feeling bad for Jake. I mean he obviously Didnt want the dog to be scared. Logan though... made the dog scared. It was barking mad.
I'll be honest, I cannot stand Jake. I feel Logan's grown recently and I can tolerate him more.
BUT that clip is the one, out of everything I have ever saw of Jake that actually made me think hes not a complete and total douchebag bruh dude.
I really get the sense that Greg was verbally and maybe even physically abusive towards Logan and Jake. Seems like he always forced them to compete and become better than the other, and Logan being the older sibling usually outdid Jake and grew up to be the "favorite son". Imagine growing up in a household where you and your sibling(s) have to compete for your parent's approval and affection and that being encouraged even in your adult life. That's gotta mess you up. It doesn't excuse Jake for his terrible and unruly behavior, but there's a difference in behaving like a tool because you think you're better than everyone else, and behaving like a tool because you feel like shit and acts that anger out on others. This family needs some intense therapy.
I honestly get a creepy vibe off their dad. Something's just not right there.
I agree with you 100%. I also think the dad is trying to live through them, he acts very immature. Also, him going in and allegedly firing people and trying to kinda take charge of team 10, maybe Jake let's all this happen and doesn't really stop it because he still wants that approval from his dad. The mom could feel left out in this and vlogs because she thinks if she shares this huge aspect of their lives with them she thinks maybe it will bring them closer. I'm just speculating, it is a messed up situation in my eyes.
When you said Greg I literally just thought of onion boy KDBDJDJD
What if Greg is the sociopath? Logan said him and Jake have tendencies, that could be learnt from the Dad? If you know what I mean, just a theory.
Rebecca Mitchell I was thinking that too. Being raised by an actual sociopath it’s more likely that behavior will rub off on you. Apparently the guy worked in the military so his profession was either to yell or be yelled at for motivation and he used the same tactics raising his sons. And now, that’s how he runs Team 10. I think Logan has benefitted more from this upbringing while Jake, being the youngest, was left a lot more hurt and neglected. That’s the feeling I’m getting.
I think:
The mom is just trying to vlog and make videos like her both of her sons. The dad has something wrong with him and its rubbing off on his kids. The sons are starting to act like their dad.
true..
kay g yes I would agree
kay g eh...maybe...but it could make sense..
Mhm
But their mum suggested nudity of her sons multiple times in her thumbnails and have their high school photos, that kind of lack of boundaries seems like the kind of thing that would have been there for a long time. And I get the impression they don't know how to be close (again, a longer and deeper issue) with her vlogging to have something in common with her sons and the way Jake didn't seem to want her too but she did anyway. Maybe she's oblivious but I think they don't have a good relationship from this video and maybe she's trying to 'fix' their bad relationship by making it look like they have a good one online..?
I feel sorry for their Mom, her vlogs seem like a desperate attempt to connect with her sons, she looks lonely and left out to me.
Anna Starseed omg you’re so right that makes so much sense
I definitely think that's her trying to grasp at straws to remain part of their world. And they, Logan especially, are such dicks to her..
That's exactly what I was thinking when I watched it. It was honestly a bit sad to see.
facts
I agree.
Thank you for addressing the fact that not all sociopaths are evil.
Aidan Christian what, was he going to offend their nonexistent feelings?
@@ratherbenapping10 Sociopaths have feelings just not for other people. They feel for themselves perfectly fine.
Aidan Christian yeah perfectly fine for sociopaths that screw people over and cause complete train wrecks and ruin peoples lives.I dated a sociopath they are a compulsive liars and cheaters at best and violent murderers at worst and it’s unfortunate that they even exist. not interested in your sympathy for sociopaths
@@ratherbenapping10 Wow, that is a generalization. You cannot judge a group of people over the actions of one person. Its a mental disorder, not the kkk, be a little more sensitive with your words.
Aidan Christian nope fuck off
I feel bad for the mom. The dad has been wholeheartedly accepted into their crew and they clearly aspire to be like him while their mother is just kind of awkwardly pushed aside and treated like an outsider for doing pretty much the same thing as the father, except in a more reasonable way.
I don’t care if I end up feeling sorry for Jake Paul at the end of this series. It just means that I feel sorry for him, it doesn’t mean that I respect him or like him and it doesn’t excuse his behaviour. It just gives us a reason why he behaves the way he does. No one is forcing him to be the way he is, he is making these decisions on his own. Also, Shane is actually meeting these people and talking to them and he’s a sympathetic guy. Don’t get angry at him for feeling sorry for Jake. We’re watching from afar and aren’t as close to the situation as Shane. Just because he feels sorry for Jake doesn’t mean you have to too. Shane isn’t trying to manipulate you into loving Jake Paul, he’s just telling his story.
Same! I do feel a little sorry for Jake,but that does not excuse his actions. He has to learn to better himself.
This comment perfectly articulates my feelings and thoughts! Shane is an empath so it is understandable that he is feeling sorry for him. Jake has done bad things and no amount of back story will change his actions.
agreed
preach!!
yes thank you for this
I'm really starting to understand why this series has been so incredible difficult for Shane. I feel like every step of the way there has been some kind of road block for him to get past. Initially it was the backlash from even doing the series on Jake, then it was demonizing mental illness, not wanting to offend the parents, not wanting to offend Logan, etc. He really looks at this series from every perspective and he's smart about how he presents his content. I've always loved Shane, but I feel like now he's really matured in the youtuber he is today. Thank you Shane for not giving up on this series. You have had so many reasons to just give up on this, but regardless of all the obstacles you keep going forward. You're a living legend, icon, and Queen.
Devon Autrey i hope he read this
Amen👏
Exactly! I feel like he needs to calm down about offending Logan and stuff because sociopaths wouldn’t get offended that much from this video. If they did then they would be more of a narcissist.
I understand what you're saying. It's about more than just offending Logan though. It's about offending Logan's 18 million subscribers and the backlash that comes along with that.
The way jakes mom is grasping for attention and trying to live up to the standards of Jake and Logan makes me cry. She is just trying to fit in. I’m so sorry.😣😢
LMAO if i was the mom i would slap them and man upp and put them up for a therapist twice a day
True
I’m in love with this series. I definitely feel like Jake doing youtube and having to be happy all the time for the camera doesn’t help his situation, he was doing daily vlogs with high energy for so long and I think we can all tell that wasn’t his actual personality, It’s mentally draining. Recently I noticed he switched to sit down videos weekly, good for him.
Same
Finnaly he calms down and hey queen
Naasir Void omg heyyyy NAAAASSSSSSIIIIRRRRR AHHH you vids are awesome
ahhh why are you everywhere
Naasir Void same
The sarcasm in the last part with the happy music instead of the shane Dawson "scary" music was everything
Yess
Grace Wenzel ugh I know 😂😂 I died laughing
I think the Paul brothers dad is a sociopath and they have learned that behavior from the father thinking it is acceptable. The mom seems to be an enabler. And just lets them get their way because she is afraid of losing love from them.
didn't their dad like aggressively scream at a girl on the street
@@daniella9250 he did....he also apparently called a fan c*&$.
I agree like the way he didn’t care about the taser and the mice traps on his fingers he showed no pain/emotion
i agree. boys do tend to copy their dads
Their mom also refuses to accept responsibility for her kids being assholes, and as Shane showed, she blames it all on their dad. Yes, their dad is the epitome of toxic masculinity, but it seems their mom has an "oh well, it's their dad's fault" attitude (external locust of control mentality). Sad thing is, she's an RN at the Cleveland Clinic....I'd never want someone who enabled sociopathic tendencies in her children to be part of a medical provider team.
Is it just me or do you feel really uncomfortable when Greg kissed that girl?
Yeah and that his child was like LMAOO and watching them.
-fłøwęr- 2.0 ye
-fłøwęr- 2.0 it’s like kissing your dad 😳🤢
There actually is a leaked tape thing of him and a younger girl 😳😳😱😬 (hope its not real) but its his voice...
-fłøwęr- 2.0 yup I looked away
When the happy music is actually scarier than the scary music...
DanceMomsNews true
ikrr😂
DanceMomsNews omg ya
I love your channel!!!!!❤️❤️❤️
DanceMomsNews that’s the point. It’s Bendy and the Ink Machine oldschool 1940s cartoon music, known for being intentionally happy yet unintentionally creepy. Horror games (like Bendy) use it all the time as an aesthetic juxtaposition. Seems like Shane wasn’t exactly happy with Logan’s response video and declination to have a conversation.
You glossed over that clip where Logan says "You beat my ass, dude!" to his dad. The whole 8-part series *solved* right there.
A very common trait in abusive homes - the older sibling is beaten while the younger sibling is spared, often resulting in sibling rivalry and resentment. Sound familiar?
yah i wish he talked about that tbh it creates alot of questions honestly...his dad seems ike a seriously messed up guy
No
Definitely familiar. It sucks being the oldest and your younger sibling gets away with literally every damn thing. I still currently live in an abusive home and it still happens but god forbid you say anything to your parents about it.
It is very obvious.
Being the younger sibling, i can tell you that that is very much true.
Why is no one talking about how Andrew went to school for psychology? I Stan that for him
Trinity Ryan when did he say that?
We stan an educated legend.
@@iqras3016 around the middle of the video?
Loopy Lol he said it in this video. Not sure of the timestamp.
Trinity Ryan ikr!! go andrew
Why does Shane always look like he's on the verge of tears in every interview?
You must admit that whole thing is really fucked up and sad.. I would look like that too
Yeah
I think he’s an empath, he feels the emotions of others. It’s common in many people.
Cause he is.
Because he tends to wear emotions on his sleeve, he gets involved deeply in whatever he does. I think it's the reason he's a successful TH-camr.
I swear eating while watching this series is such a fantastic combination.
WessamQ ikr im eating chips rn
Senne Oldenhof omg same
SAME!! I've been eating meals while watching every episode. 😂😆
BIIIIITCH I GOT MY SPAGHET RIGHT HERE TOO 😭
I'm literally eating rn too 😂😂
After this, can we have a happy series about Andrew? Just 10+ parts of him laughing would be great
Cat23 An Andrew series would be great!!! I hope this gets more likes
Omg yaass
I would love that 💜💜
Bish u got 100 likes in 1 minute well done
Shanaz Abdullah Right! I came back bc of comments and was like 😮!
shane trying not to laugh is the funniest thing
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“PFFFT”
1 hour of shane trying not to laugh but laughing
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i really feel bad for jake. he seems like a nice guy, but he just grew up in the wrong household.
What if he's just that good of a manipulator and you fell for it.
Just got unlucky in the family department I guess,
I think he got taught by Logan I mean..he did record a dead body-
coretta ! Same
Exactly what he wants you to think.
i really liked how this video had less of the creepy cutaways. not because i thought you were milking the whole “sociopath” thing, the cutaways just got distracting after a while
Let's be real. The dad is a Sociopath, and the two boys learned their tendencies from him.
Facts
Thats what I think too tbh
Thank you!
Shelby Oz I’ve probably only seen about 10 seconds total of video footage of their dad and I can TOTALLY AGREE
Accurate
I don’t think Shane is trying to excuse Jake’s bad behavior. I think he’s trying to understand it. He’s coming from a place of curiosity and compassion. Feeling empathy for someone doesn’t mean you have to excuse their bad behavior. It’s about looking at it in more than a black/white way, to ask “why does he do this” and not accepting “because he’s a bad person.” Saying someone can do no wrong is a similar injustice to saying someone can do no right. If no one believes Jake could be capable of good decisions, where is the motivation to ever step outside of the demonic box people have painted for him? Not to say his bad actions should be swept under a rug, and not to say you can’t dislike him for choosing to do those bad things... but I think the ideal result of this series, and perhaps the purpose, is to almost expect better of him with a more well-rounded mindset.
THANK YOU
nyx bird THIS IS SO TRUE!!!
nyx bird I'M SCARED:< "ʕ •~•ʔ"
nyx bird couldn’t have said it better
This comment is perfect. Everyone is too quick to write them off as evil monsters. People don't do bad shit for no reason, it's always deeper than that.
Does anybody else think Shane should do a series on Trish? Like, she is SO fascinating, and Shane always seems to make something so interesting.
Agree!
he has one actually, the series is A bit more fun instead of like serious but maybe he should do it like he did the jefree one!
Not sure how that would work, as Shane & Trish are VERY close friends. With her mental disorders, I think that might start a drama & ruin their long-standing friendship...
He should!!
He should do one on Nickocado Avocado but I think just like what Shane got before this series he got hate because he was gonna talk about Jake which a lot of people don't really like same with Nick he is kinda controversial cause of the scandals and a lot of people also don't like him
No hate to anybody
This interactive aspect of fans and haters reacting to the series and shane adressing them is awesome. This Episode really put an interesting twist to the series which I really like.
shane's facial expressions while watching the entire paul family's videos is such a mood tbh sksksks
just a whirlwind of emotions from laughing to crying.
*SPOILER WARNING FOR THE SERIES FINALE!* It has been leaked that Shane is planning on completely exposing Logan Paul at the end of this. The police have finally replied to Shane and confirmed that Logan faked the suicide, the dead body was actually just an actor standing by the tree set-up by Logan. He scripted everything including the apology and aftermath. Matty Love exposed this in The Mind of Logan Paul. I have put all the police links into a youtube playlist for those that asked. Sorry if I spoiled the ending but this is the truth
Shane’s 5 second apology was more sincere than Laura Leech’s
*FINALE SPOILER ALERT!!* Stop reading if you don't want to find out what happens. Shane has finally received a response from the Japanese police who have confirmed that Logan faked the dead body. It was fake. Logan used an actor to stage the entire suicide. There was no actual dead victim. This has been debunked in Matty Love's The Mind of Logan Paul. I have put all the links and police reports into a TH-cam playlist for those that asked. Help spread the truth about Logan
For real!! Lol
Your profile pic is everything and tbh its true
I was your 1000 like 😁😁
morgan sleeping on the couch in the background is a mood
Morgan is a *mood*. 😂
I’ve watched the series multiple times how did I not notice this
omg i NEVER noticed until your comment
Shane,
The fact that you give people a chance is beautiful. You’re an beautiful person
Kathleen Harper and he has a kind soul.
Bele Bele
Yeah? Well my dad has a shovel.
MutterBilk Miscuit what do you want, all you guys want is hate. Wth did i say? Can uou stop. I’m gonna report so byeee
@@belebele2032 Sence of Humor has left the chatroom
A*
To add to my last comment... I LOVED what you did with this episode of the series. With the recent clips of your thoughts on the audience's opinions on the series thus far. It makes it feel more personal and current. Like we're on this journey with you not just watching the aftermath of what you went through while filming. It's a really nice addition that brings more substance
Sorsha i agree so much!!!
Sorsha totally agree!!! i liked that he added current info & adressed certain people’s thoughts from the last episode!!(: made it feel very genuine & shows he cares about the people involved & he’s not lot other youtubers who only care about the views!!!
StrongFish 91 Yess😂😂
Very true.
Yes, that is true, it is, and his video was funny lol
35:17 “I think jake doesn’t really have a dad. He just has a boss or a co worker.”
And that’s sad. 😢
Caith Maca ikr
I kinda don't get it, I hear "I wanted to be the best dad" what's bad about that? I'm thinking dad as in when the boy grows up to be a father to others.
Before I liked you were at 699 like but now you are at 700. You're welcome♡
Coronavirus has me rewatching the entire series! Shoutout to 2020!
yesss
Yassss
Omg fucking same
Definitely
Yesssssssss for real!!!!!!!😭😁
"Sorry if you were offended that I kind of insinuated that you were a sociopath." What a way to start a DM chat! 😂😂😂
*Wiki-How to slide in the DM's*
his dads like whole personality scares me.
I can't believe that a *grown man* challenged millions of *children* to stick their fingers in mousetraps!?!
kiley argo yes agreed
He KISSED a 22 year old GIRL
Don’t forget his leaked porn with a fan girl. They showed the audio of the clip at the h3h3 podcast and it’s still haunting me
Mugiwara no Lucy wAT
When shane realized he made a series on the wrong brother.
krisha manglona - you copied/repeated this comment. Originality gone out the window!
Pet_Love dude. So many people have probably said what you’ve said to other people. So you’re not original either. Stfu.
Hilarious and original
He knew Logan was crazier all along. Shane literally said in an interview that he didn't make the documentary on Logan because he's afraid of him.
2:57
plus at least when Logan threw the plate Jake said 'its okay buddy''and kissed the dog but Logan screamed' cALm dOWn'' so I guess that shows jakes a little more caring lol
I want a whole series just about Andrews life tbh
Same!
Liv Walters same 😂
Yooo that's a good idea please do that Shane
Same omg
Liv Walters yees
...Andrew went to school for psychology??
We stan.
crying4days we Stan a *queen*
crying4days yes we stan a KING
BITCH YES
whats the time stamp
ॐNeo_White _Rabbitॐ this is TH-cam not google look it up yourself
"Dog, like DAWG?"
"No, just dog."
"Oh."
"Yeah, we stan."
DEAD.
Same
what does stan mean?
@@lw9849 its a word I know but can't really explain... Its like... Support and like. Like I STAN Shane meaning I love and support him. But some people say it in an ironic way like Shane did when he said that
My all time favourite part😂👏🏻
Palm Tree And Helicopter Producktionz I don’t think ironic is the word
Jake kissed the dog after Logan threw the plate at it 🥺🥺
That's interesting and very telling
I saw dat and was like awee 🥺🥺🥺💓💓
Starting to think Jake agreeing to this series was a cry for help
Felicia Lett or a cry for a “redemption”
@@thezoeyshow9938 haha maybe who knows at this point
Felicia Lett right??
Felicia Lett honestly.. Agreed.
Will see
i feel like jake paul isnt sociopath but logan is.
siblings usually copy their older part because they want to be like them and i feel like jake just picked up aspects of logan.
but thats just a theory...
*a paul theory*
I love that
lol
Omg game theory and film theory
Lol 😂
Nah. Their dad is literally insane. I think he is a hard core sociopath.
I’ve been convinced that their father has something wrong with him and the sons came out how they did because of his abuse and that’s why the parents are divorced
Tori Darling Yeah good call.
Tori Darling yeah they seem to get a lot of personality form their dad. I mean I ain’t saying at his age he can’t have fun, but he’s pretty wild acting and a little immature in my opinion for me. I forget he’s their dad lol
I was thinking the same thing! Maybe the father is the sociopath and the two boys learned from his behavior to make who they are today. Their dad has always given me the creeps
Reptilian Crucification yeah broski when Logan was like “you fucked me up dude” it kinda gave that away
Totally agree, the dad seems fuck up, in the beginning of the video Logan said something about why did you always beat my ass when I was younger? And the dad was like , did I?? Come on now🙄
watching this back now that the palette's out, it's shocking the difference between his current series & the past ones. this time he's not using his platform to help other people (jake, jeffree, bunny, etc.), the new series is about his own success & gaining a healthier mindset for himself. it's beautiful
I thought this was gonna be a hate comment lol
@@carefreerosey5302 if I could go back in time I would have left a hate comment tbh
@@greysonberndt6548 LET HIM LIVE.
I don’t like Jake or Logan, but it seems that no matter what Jake does, Logan always finds a way to get involved. Even a documentary on JAKE has to involve Logan. It really just goes back to the whole competition thing. It’s always about who can be more popular.
I don’t like Jake by any means, but I have to feel for him in this context. It’s like with his brother around, he doesn’t have his own identity...
Yeah even in his ‘ draw my life ‘ video he mentioned Logan like more than his own self
It’s like he’s in his brothers shadow and can’t get out of it
There brothers😂
I know right
bless up remember after jake won the boxing match
I never thought I'd say this, but I kind of get the impression that Jake actually is an empathetic and caring person deep down, but he's a product of his environment. Military upbringings can be rough. Divorce can be rough. Sure, it might sound like a simple thing to get over, but things like that can be traumatic for a kid who is still trying to figure out who they are. Logan comes off as super arrogant to me, and maybe like "the favorite." I'm starting to feel different about Jake though...
This doesn't mean I will start watching his videos or anything, I just don't watch that kind of content, I don't find it interesting. But I find this story very interesting, and I'm excited to see where this series goes.
*PEWDIEPIE CAN FINALLY END LOGAN PAUL! THIS LATEST NEWS IS THE END OF LOGAN!* Police in Japan have just said the suicide was "a staged prank"! The dead body wasn't real and Logan faked the whole thing! Tell Gloria so he can take down Logan for good off TH-cam! (and yes I put my sources into a youtube playlist for those that asked for proof, i put the police statements in there too!) Tell Poppy!!!
Exactly! To me it also feels like they are trying to one up each other, feeling like the one who comes on top, or being the best will make their father love them. Make them worthy. And I also think that their father raised them to be overly manly, to think that they only matter to him if they behave like they do, and crying or showing your emotions in unmanly. And he seems overly controlling.
No wonder they are so fucked up.
Emily same very valid points.i agree!
Yeah honestly your right that can kinda mess up your head. You get a like
Emily 👌🏻👏👏👏👏👏👏 wow you just expressed my feelings, it’s the same thing i feel like about all this!
Your videos never actually feel like they’re 40 mins long. I find myself stuck to the screen and I get so invested that time flys and by the end I think it’s only been 5 mins. That’s how you know it’s good, major television series don’t even get me that entranced👏
“Was it dawg?” “No it was dog! We stan.” I dieddddd
It makes me upset that Logan declined Shane’s offer to do the interview, but the fact he did it on his channel is very interesting to me. Because Logan can CONTROL what happens on his channel, what makes it and doesn’t make it. He is the creator/ director of his channel. If Shane did it Shane would do it his way, in conclusion maybe Logan was scared of how Shane would produce the interview. Which is understandable. No one wants to be the bad guy.
Courtney Roth completely agree! AND he’s basically using the fame of these videos for himself!!
I was relieved logan declined because we could tell Logan was trying to steal focus from Jake and now manipulating Shane and using him for views, I was screaming at my screen at the beginning for Shane to open his eyes, he's just using you lol. also logan knows shit about sociopathy, I bet he saw all the backlash and decided to use it for his advantage (his video to shane is a proof of that)
And the views, aka Money. I am not sure he cares about his image at this point.
I belive Logan said no to interview was in hopes that he get his own documentary after this one
But also Shane has made it clear he doesn't like the Pauls so I get it. Bias is a given. I'm a Shane fan. I see this. But I also get why people are annoyed. Just remember as viewers we aren't entitled to everything we want.
ok, i am not crazy about Jake paul at all, but i don't get why everyone is hating on Shane for feeling bad for Jake. I appreciate that Shane trys to give everyone a chance. I used to HATE jefree star, but after watching your series i felt like i understood him and now i know why he is how he is, and i feel bad for the way i used to think about him. Shane i know you probaly won't see this comment, but i want to say thank you for helping me see people differntly.
Not even Shane Dawson can make people care about Jake.
This whole series is just a mess and I wish it was over.
Mande Marso Then why did you like it?
Good comment btw tries*
This is supposed to teach people things, not to make people care or feel bad foe Jake, but of course Shane feels bad for him cause that's just who he is. He cares a lot about people and he sees that he is human too, even if a bad one, so he'll care for him.
Mande Marso I think Shane can feel bad for Jake all he wants it doesn’t mean we have to feel the same way. It’s an interesting documentary and there’s nothing wrong with learning about why the Paul brothers are the way they are. If you don’t like it then don’t watch lol
Okay so we all know Shane is wonderful, but why is nobody talking about Andrew?? He's been so insightful throughout all of the documentary series Shane has done. I think he's had some really thoughtful comments and opinions, and he's contributing a lot to the series.
Amen to that...
I'm pretty certain that without Andrew this series wouldn't have happened, the team Andrew and Shane make is amazing!
YES! And his camera work and his editing skills surpass most of other TV shows
@@Jynx-tk9yd So true
I think Shane and Andrew are making the perfect team. Those series are interesting, entertaining and so new for TH-cam. I want more but understand how much work it is
when logan said “sociopath is boiled down to be more of a savage”. that’s the stuipdest thing i have ever heard and this is coming from a 12 year old
Its not really some of the tendancies are the same for example. Does someone who says theyre 'savage' (i just threw up from that word) care about what happens to themselves if it makes them seem cooler. No. Does a sociopath care about what happens to themselves if it helps thenselves. No. Essentially its the same thing. He actually had alot of logic behind his explanation. And this is coming from an 11 year old
I’m 2 and u agree
I found it a little bit weird that Logan Paul was all chill and respectful towards Shane over the DMs on Twitter/Social Media Accounts. But then he goes and posted a video on his channel, kinda lowkey lashing out about what Shane said. Like he was manipulating the situation in a way, kinda, to get views and stuff.
Views...duh
When Shane put the clip of Logans video i thought "wtf, why be so civil over dms but so horrible in a video". Also, notice how he was defending HIMSELF over a documentary series about his brother
Honestly with that I think it comes down to the views and possibly Logan's branding at this point. I've never really watched his videos so I can't say for sure if this is what's happening, but I've noticed that a lot of TH-camrs will either adjust the way they make their videos to get less backlash, or they'll adjust to the backlash and steer straight into it. So maybe he was less upset than the video showed, but he played it up because "everyone expects this already." Or maybe he made the video while everything was very fresh in his mind and then talked to Shane after, and at that point he'd calmed down.
@@dannianni23 yes but he wasnt defending Jake, he was defending himself
Life of Amoree I wouldn't make a video to get views. Honestly I dont care about Social Media, yes its handy at times. But some of those times it's the worst thing ever - and either putting up fake drama or anything because of views/watch/subscribers... is kinda ridiculous. People like watching real things, and nothing fake.
Poor jake he can’t even have his sociopath series without logan stealing the shine
E.g linsay Smith literally who cares lol
Tru hahaha
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This was funny 😂
Lmaooo
it’s annoying that he feels he can’t feel a certain way because some of yall keep pressuring him to not victimise jake paul. he’s NOT. just because he feels bad for jake doesn’t mean he wants everyone else to feel the same.
cat valentine Right? It just proves that Shane has empathy. Isn’t that what good ppl do? Look for the good in others unless & until they’re proven wrong?
@Stupidity Exodus Infinity What?
That's not the point tho.. watch vid of PewDiePie about Shane. It's not about him feeling bad for someone, don't mind him feeling bad for the Paul's. That's Shane's opinion.
He's just taking it a little to far. I mean it's about serious issues like mental health but the horror sounds en music, the images..
And don't get me wrong I like Shane. Just not the way he makes this series.
Shane looks like he is about to cry for so many times.
I agree with youv
25:40 The fact that Jake called his mother by her first name instead of something like "mom" just makes my heart hurt, man. And how she responds with a sad little okay afterwards. Like, fuck dude
I know, that's not right. But what I was thinking was in that clip Jake and Erika ignore her and Jake avoids her. Both of them spend all day every day working on making content for multiple channels to be edited and uploaded in the same day. That's like, a lot for someone mentally and emotionally. When you're spending time with family, you don't want a camera to be following you around for your private life too unless you've discussed it and agreed on it beforehand. You just want to enjoy time with your family, not some filtered edited version of time with your family. It's just messy from both sides.
@@lauraelizabethbrown I agree completely. This family seems pretty messed up just from this small amount of evidence. I hope Shane can get more in depth with everything that has or is happening in their whole family and friends situation, so that we can see the whole picture.
Not saying this is the case, but just because he called his mother by her name instead of “mom” doesn’t necessarily mean that he isn’t close or doesn’t view her as a mother figure. I have friends of mine who call their parents by their first names but are as close as you could get in a parent/child setting.
@@kaitlin448 of course! That is for sure a possibility. I'm just pointing out this small detail i noticed that made me uncomfortable/a lil sad. But he could totally just calling her Pam for no apparent reason.
I don't feel that Shane is doing anything wrong. I work for high security psychiatric hospital which houses criminally insane patients. I'm a psychiatric nurse practitioner. And I think by questioning mental health it opens up a dialogue and discussion and brings it out of the shadows of society.
big facts
I have a doctorate in clinical psychology and I agree.
Greg kissing that young girl made me the most uncomfortable I think I have ever been. God.
I literally wish I didn't watch that. I'm just shivering from the heebie jeebies. Kissing the same girl your son has kissed? WTF???? To prove a point? Holy shit that old man is weird and immature.
@@xuanius Exactly! He's supposed to be an adult? He shouldn't have even agreed to something like that because it's insanely immature.
when did that happen?
XUAN玄 ummmm YEAH!! I wish I could bleach my eyes
Williamsthysteve not even that it's immature. It's just W R O N G
This is so sad about how Jake said we finally have a connection I actually felt so sad that someone might not have a good connection with there mom
I feel like Jake is the result of a Dad who is abusive, Mom who didn't really try hard enough to fix it, and a brother who is constantly one-upping him and making him feel like he is lesser. I feel like the dad was one of those "YOU HAVE TO BE A MAN, THIS IS WHAT A MAN IS, THIS IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE" people. Like, I feel Greg forced an image of what he felt a man is/should be onto his kids, simply because that's how he feels. If Greg hadn't forced them to work out and compete against each other, Logan and Jake would have been much better people. Greg (and maybe Pam idk) turned two innocent brothers against each other and turned them to some got damn maniacs. Here's my final word on this episode; When given the choice, I think it's better for a child to have no Dad than a abusive one.
Ash Hrrjeh yes I totally understand you
I agree. At one point my dad jabbed me with a ski pole and kicked me down a slope with his ski. Because I wasn’t directly behind him on a busy slope. The thing is, I was.
True- no dad is better than an abusive one
Ash Hrrjeh .
True I feel like they grew up in a household where there was little to no rules and they rarely got punished and they were not tought moral ethics which is why Logan made the suicide forest video. Had Logan been raised the right way he would have been smart enough to know how bad of an idea it is. Zoella and her brother's videos feel more real to me cause they don't try to constantly one up each other and they seem like they care for one another. I don't feel that with Jake and Logan.
Shane, please stop worrying about the reactions. If this interests you, keep doing it. It’s fascinating
Amelia Natalie exactly fuck what they think.
Or it's a healthy adult thing to be able to take criticism, adapt, and pay attention to what other people are expressing? He's trying to teach his viewers how to be reasonable and rational and all so many people are saying is NOOO NEVER CHANGE STOP WORRYING ABOUT IT, which is just so short-sighted. That kind of mindset isn't healthy. Your opinion should be able to change and grow based on new information.
Cobaltik If all you bitches want to do is tell him to stop doing what he wants and pointing out everything he’s doing. THEN FUCK OFF. He just put out a tweet basically saying fuck you to all you bitches.
Amelia Natalie honestly
Uhm Ok Fuck You And Your Respect Go cry at home.
i love that Shane is so calm during apologies. No need to dramatize and fake tears.
cough *laura lee* cough
SHADE
Randoman TEA ☕️
TEA ☕️ SIS
*cOuGh* *CoUGh*
SKSKSKSKKSKSKKS
“i feel like i’m trapped”
“in the mind of jake paul”
“and i wanna get out.”
“so do i make a video about logan?”
🙊🙊🤣🙊😔😔😔the only thing that is not my favorite but is a very important thing to be a part of
W is a great idea 💡👌👏👍😀
I agree with what Andrew said. Jake is a byproduct of his surroundings.. with a father like that and an older brother pretty much exactly the same, youd probably be bullied and put down endlessly because you weren't a "Savage" like them, and it looks like the mother has been under the fathers thumb so there's no getting out of a situation like that. Purely speculation though.
Alex Watson savage= out of control animal = jake Paul
@@eves4587 you missed my point completely
PLEASE DONT CHANGE WHAT YOU HAD PLANNED FOR THIS SERIES! YOURE DOING GREAT SWEETIE!
also hate the happy music but i understand you did it for the haters.
Fucking facts
I love how Morgan is sleeping on the couch in the background while Shane is being all suspenseful
destery thims at 15:45 she disappears then reappears at like 16:30 THEN IS GONE AGAIN AT 16:45
Had to rewatch to notice this. I love how she has just become one with the couch. Goals.
Cat. she as always got herself some food (I'm guessing)
Where I can't spot that
where ??
I just love how Shane talks about Jake’s past in such a respectful way... I stan 😔
Facts
Me too. Shane is by far, my favorite youtuber. He’s funny, relatable, and respectful. 🤪😤👊
Sunny Syrup we Stan 😔
Watching the dad, I’m starting to understand the sons....🤨
PunkRockGirl24 I’m the same, the dad gives me dodgy feelings 😒
IKR
PunkRockGirl24 same tbh
Ignore what I’m about to say but I don’t agree with you, she seems a lot like my own mom. Tiny, calm, sweet, caring, emotionally submissive but strong. Greg probably was very abusive towards her and we don’t even know, he even seems like the type of person to do so.
Im mean the dads sex tape leaked and its disgusting
Greg Paul gives me very bad vibes. He actually makes me uncomfortable which is concerning.
gracie guisewite Couldn’t agree more
Same
Me too. He is so cringe.
Same here! I had to skim over when he came up
Same all my friends think the same
Shane, it makes me genuinely sad that you worry about people accusing you of humanizing Jake and/or his brother. I think one of the most wonderful things about you is your capacity to bring out - if not likeable qualities - relatable qualities in people who millions deem monstrous, and may very well misunderstand to a significant extent because they don't see the whole picture.
I'm a firm believer that one of the biggest problems in our society right now is how quickly we are to dehumanize entire swaths of people without giving them a chance, or the benefit of the doubt. That is so damn toxic. What your recent work has done is gives us a wider view of the lives of really controversial people, and lets us make up our minds about whether we think they're full of shit or maybe kinda decent - an opportunity maybe we wouldn't allow ourselves if we just watched their respective content.
Regardless of how this series turns out, I hope you take immense pride in the work you're doing and the fact that maybe it challenges people to consider humanizing those they've previously misunderstood or pegged wrong. That's really not that bad of a thing, if you ask me. It's honest. It's ok for people to check themselves.
You have a gift, bud. And I thank you. ❤️
this was so well written, so nice, and so true. Thank YOU
You worded that beautifully.
Very well said ❤
My thoughts exactly and you couldn't have said it better.
SO true. I really hope that Shane see this.
The way Shane reacted to Jake's mom though
Who else loves the fact that Shane lets ANDREW (geez people stop attacking meh XD) actually speak, unlike some other youtubers.
@Tanay Riva Bowie duhhhh XD
amy dixon uhm Derek Gerard lets him camera man speak
@@k16525-x I thought I said SOME other TH-camrs
I fucking love it and don't call him cameraman his name is Andrew 💕💕💕💕💕😎🤘🏼
@@sweetdoll4557 I knew that
That clip of him kissing that young girl, yikes. I don't like that he's 55 years old and shes 22. That made me feel really uncomfortable
InternalScreeching totally. Just because she’s technically not “underage” doesn’t really make it any better honestly. It’s disgusting that he’s in competition with his own son to see who KISSES better. Dad has no fucking business being physically affectionate/intimate/etc. with a girl his kids’ age. NO FUCKING BUSINESS.
That’s a 33 year distance
@@beelzeburgerz8441 Jesus christ
same
She was actually 19
I have a theory. It’s just a theory tho. Maybe their dad is the sociopath and the reason Logan and jake act like this isn’t because they’re sociopaths themselves but because they grew up and was raised by one. Maybe they just picked up their dads tendencies. And their mom felt too helpless to defend them or do anything about it.
J E S L E Y ou shit you’re on to something
I was just thinking thaaat !!!
MATPAT
I agree kinda but somethings up with their mom for sure
Their dad definitely gives me bad I’ll kill you vibes
Morgan just passed out at 14:40 is just a whole mood.
Also remember when Andrew never laughed in videos? That was a sad, dark time.
OMG thanks for the likes guys! Literally our dream would be to collab with Shane on mental health and helping others, he is such an inspiration
Why did he hold himself back?
@@Kelly.flores idk for sure but it was before he was introduced on the channel. Maybe it was to be professional.
THE ACCURACY
Agreed 😂
kelly flores
I think it's because no one knew his identity, it would be kind of weird having a person that isn’t in front of the camera laughing.
With the plate smashing instance, Logan smashed the plate, Greg showed no empathy or no worry to the situation & Jake said”Its okay buddy.” Then kissed the dog. 😕
That makes the dad look the most sociopathic. It didn't affect him so he didn't care. He didn't even show any emotion when it happened.
Well like its a normal thing for logan to smash plates like he smashes plates all the time
When Jake said “ hi Pam” to his mom I felt kinda heart broken
Why does he call her Pam?
Heather J The possibilities could probably be that he just doesn’t accept his family or either idk just feel ashamed lmao
Sofia S I WAS ABOUT TO CRYYY
I call my mum by her first name and we are super close. It started as a joke years ago and just stuck. People comment when they hear and we are just so used to it. Guess that is just our case though.
Heather J it’s her name
I believe Greg came back when Jake started becoming big, and making money.
My dad was a sociopath, so growing up I witnessed it all the time. To me, Jake doesn't strike me as a sociopath, sociopathic tendencies yes like Logan claims to be. Logan, on the other hand, seems to be a sociopath. What he tweeted and got Shane's attention was manipulative to get Shane to contact him. He was angry about being exposed like that. If you are manipulating people and you're doing a good job of it, you don't want anything messing that up and Shane doing this definitely would mess it up big time for him. When talking to Shane he also spun it to make himself sound like he's not as bad as he actually is. Which he's not, it's not HIM it's the disorder, nothing he can actually control. But him turning down the interview with Shane and making a video of his own is also what makes me think he's a sociopath. He knew he'd get views for his own video like that, he can manipulate his audience to thinking what he wants, if he met with Shane it would be harder and the views would all be on Shane's video not his own.
On another note, their dad definitely seems to be the reason why they are the way they are. I honestly feel bad for their mom. She just doesn't seem to know who she really is because of being married to Greg. I hope she finds herself. Z
Yes true
My uncle is and always will be a sociopath and I hate him for fucking me up mentally, ( he played so much mind games and he killed all my animals) now he’s in a mental institution, I know I should be happy but I can’t... I guess things take time
their parents are divorced.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
peyton ef I know, mine are too, but I saw the effects of being married to one on my mom and trust me when I say it fucks you up.
let us all take a moment and appreciate how good the camera mans questions are and how he helps flow Shane's thoughts along
Annelies Koch-schulte yeah Andrews the best
You mean Andrew 🤦🏼♀️😂
Andrew is amazing 👏
yay Andrew!!!
Annelies Koch-schulte AndreW just butters their croissants
The way that people are raised is probably the biggest factor (aside from other trauma) in their mental state. That’s all I’m going to say. If a parent is a narcissist (totally hypothetically) that can DEEPLY affect the way a child reacts to situations that might push them one way or another.