The Ultimate Showdown! Ubuntu vs Pop!OS vs Debian

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  • @MrTR909
    @MrTR909 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    in a nutshell, Debian vs Debian Fork vs Fork of Debian Fork :)

    • @Noah-l7h8m
      @Noah-l7h8m 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It is true

  • @AnkitSharma-qg2dc
    @AnkitSharma-qg2dc 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've never had so much fun listening to a Linux podcast before. This is so much fun, guys! Also, Matt is so good at convincing; he could defend Hannah Montana as the best Linux distro

  • @TheLinuxCast
    @TheLinuxCast  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Help support the pod! patreon.com/thelinuxcast
    [time stamps]
    00:00:00 Intro
    00:01:34 Our Week in FOSS
    00:01:42 Drew's Week in FOSS
    00:02:23 Tyler's Weeks in FOSS
    00:03:39 Nate's Week in FOSS
    00:05:19 Matt's Week in FOSS
    00:08:02 Debian vs Ubuntu vs Pop!OS
    00:51:26 Nuggies of the Week
    00:52:16 Drew's Nuggie
    00:53:02 Nate's Nuggie
    00:54:21 Tyler's Nuggie
    00:55:45 Matt's Nuggie
    00:57:13 Contact Info and Goodbyes

  • @Leahi84
    @Leahi84 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I haven't laughed so hard in a long, long time. I needed that badly. Thank you.

  • @manfredkernMK
    @manfredkernMK 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I just enjoyed it. Made me smile.

  • @scottmorgan5212
    @scottmorgan5212 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    Mint already made a new DE

    • @sharkuel
      @sharkuel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Technically, Cinnamon is a fork of gnome. Cosmic is built from scratch. So I believe that is Matt's argument here.

    • @scottmorgan5212
      @scottmorgan5212 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@sharkuel yeah that occurred to me after I posted. I'm pretty excited for Cosmic.

    • @kangaroochili
      @kangaroochili 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@scottmorgan5212 Same, Cosmic not being a Franken-Gnome anymore will be great. I do wish Pop was based on Debian though. Would be nice to have a new hardware/gaming focused Debian distro.

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@sharkuel It's also designed with Wayland in mind which makes it even better.

  • @huljaxful
    @huljaxful 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This episode is pure gold.

  • @wyfyj
    @wyfyj 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Hey... I did compile Gentoo during Thanksgiving. It was my weekly update

    • @wyfyj
      @wyfyj 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also Matt, you've had more issues with OpenSuse compared to me with Gentoo. I don't know what it is they are doing different compared to me.

    • @TheLinuxCast
      @TheLinuxCast  15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's mostly a codec problem.

    • @terrydaktyllus1320
      @terrydaktyllus1320 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wyfyj As a (very long term) Gentoo user myself (and perfectly happy with it), if Gentoo has any issues then it's usually BEFORE installation of a new package or update because of circular dependencies or having to change a USE flag. Once the package is installed a compiled properly against the libraries and other stuff it needs, the package also works okay. With binary distros, the problem usually occurs post-installation.
      I am sorry to say this but, in my experience, a lot of Linux creators and users are "their own worst enemies". They keep "chopping and changing" between distros without every committing to one distro long enough to learn it well enough - they get one issue, they get annoyed and bored with trying to fix it, and then just load another distro instead.
      In addition to that, that same group of people need to drop the "Windows Upgrade Upgrade Upgrade" mentality. Gentoo is an extremely stable and reliable distro if you stick to the "stable" release path - when you start going into "testing" for the very latest releases, then the time you spend managing USE flags and stopping circular dependencies is going to increase and get more complicated to resolve.
      I take the attitude that if an application does what I need it to then there's no reason to upgrades - for me, upgrades are there to fix security issues, bugs and, on rare occasions, provide a new feature that might be good for my workflow.
      Otherwise, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is my mentality - and it makes my Linux experience fun and reasonably hassle-free.

  • @Noah-l7h8m
    @Noah-l7h8m 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Haven't have so much fun, eighter: it's also the first podcast I listened to in a while!

  • @Fantomas-f8g
    @Fantomas-f8g 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm a Debian user, I've tried Ubuntu a bunch of times.
    Always had way more issues with Ubuntu, like recently, Docker breaking completely...
    Flatpak on Debian : 3 copy paste & its done come on...

    • @slalomsk8er397
      @slalomsk8er397 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Just went back to Debian as Ubuntu Studio upgrade failed for me because of a dog related power outage and I wasn't able to fix the broken install.
      On some other machines Ubuntu Studio also gave me problems upgrading, I was able to recover but still way less problems with Debian upgrades.

  • @MrSnivvel
    @MrSnivvel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The real winner, as always: Gentoo

  • @benderbg
    @benderbg 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    (M)att
    (I)s
    (N)eglecting
    (T)ruth

  • @christopherkurilla7458
    @christopherkurilla7458 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tylers back?!? Bout time 😂🤣😂

  • @bobpeters61
    @bobpeters61 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Never tried Suse. However, when an update "breaks" something on Arch, I learned the hard way not to try and fix it with a re-install. The bug is in the new version of something. Re-installing everything re-installs the new version. It'll be fixed in an update or two down the road.
    I get so tired of gnome apologists saying "It's just a different work flow than you're used to." Yeah, it's a less efficient and therefore inferior workflow. Including the variation that Ubuntu uses. Debian lets you uncheck gnome and select whatever Linux DE you want during the install. Just remember to uncheck "Debian Utilities" as well.

  • @vanvothe4817
    @vanvothe4817 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    My favorite distro linux: fedora

    • @Noah-l7h8m
      @Noah-l7h8m 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I use fedora KDE at the moment, but the _stupid_ hiberation doesn't work... Before, I had installed EndeavourOS, which had the same _flipping_ problem. That's why I swiched to fedora....

  • @joshuabeckwith7906
    @joshuabeckwith7906 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Always been a Debian fan. Rock solid. Never breaks. Once fully configured to your taste it will stay out of your way and you can just get on with using the computer.
    However to speed up the process, as backports and other niceties are enabled. I just install LMDE these days. If I use Cinnamon I may as well right?

  • @glebglub
    @glebglub 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    next year will be LFS vs Gentoo vs freeBSD, calling it now!

  • @MSTNocte
    @MSTNocte 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The real winners all linux desktop users. But, one argument for Debian was that for the desktop user is the hobbyist distro, run by the community.

  • @itstoxicqt
    @itstoxicqt 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If i had a choice between these 3 and only these 3 1000% would go with pop

    • @ingedison1
      @ingedison1 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      why ?

    • @itstoxicqt
      @itstoxicqt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@ingedison1 Debian even testing doesnt really meet my needs, i dont care much for ubuntu these days and i like system 76 as a company

  • @Fantomas-f8g
    @Fantomas-f8g 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    One thing against Pop Os, the name is grotesque...

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They should really replace it with something related to Cosmic.

  • @ericg5564
    @ericg5564 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The winner is definitely. GNU Linux , great moment of humor and lying, friendly from France

    • @Noah-l7h8m
      @Noah-l7h8m 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Linux plus GNU equals GNUnix, but in Dutch nix ( niks) meas nothing

  • @mohammedF976
    @mohammedF976 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who apt upgraded Tyler's beard ? 😁

  • @olivercatino1666
    @olivercatino1666 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I have two Linux laptops ... one with Debian and the other with Aeon Desktop. If forced to choose, I'd go with Aeon Desktop for it's easy maintenance.

    • @Noah-l7h8m
      @Noah-l7h8m 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      What's that?

    • @olivercatino1666
      @olivercatino1666 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @Noah-l7h8m Are you asking what is Aeon Desktop?

  • @k.chriscaldwell4141
    @k.chriscaldwell4141 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Debian and Ubuntu Server: Server. Debian Mint, Mint, and Ubuntu DE: Desktop. PopOS: Gaming. Fedora: Workstation.

  • @AmeMori35
    @AmeMori35 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every distro worth equal amounts of love

    • @zherka_pill
      @zherka_pill 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      no

    • @AmeMori35
      @AmeMori35 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @zherka_pill sure then

  • @DefCantGame
    @DefCantGame 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    negative points for pop: doesnt work on the latest vivobook keyboard out of box, battery life. positive points to ubuntu for "driver app install nvidia", positive points debian for stability, and negative points for arch btw :)

  • @c00ful26
    @c00ful26 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I tried ubuntu when i first started getting into linux. this is way back in 2016 it was good for its time but then trying it again in 2022 Ubuntu was slow trying other distros i cant go back and never will go back. snaps are awful i will die on that hill 😂

  • @averagetechnologyenojyer
    @averagetechnologyenojyer 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pop is good but im unable to run waydroid on it ;-;

  • @00Otaku-l9b
    @00Otaku-l9b 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just so you know vivaldi is in void nonfree repo

  • @topherfungus8424
    @topherfungus8424 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry Zaney I'm still not sold on Nix. I agree that it sounds fun to tinker with but I don't think it can compete with all that Debian offers

  • @Phoenixwizard77
    @Phoenixwizard77 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Debian has the worst user experience at installation and an even worse website, but once you get your GPU and other drivers set up, it is amazing. I've learned more about how linux works more in my six months with Debian than I have in my four years daily driving, Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, and Pop OS. Debian is #1 for me.

  • @mattslivar5174
    @mattslivar5174 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Without linux kernel non of those distros would exist and even if debian dies ubuntu has the money to make their own distro from scratch

  • @bologna3048
    @bologna3048 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You just don't like Nix because the configs are easy to read and it just works 😂 wait till you hear about home manager, oooOOOooOO

    • @lantistk1304
      @lantistk1304 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@bologna3048 home manager i'm confusing :'(

  • @samcoleman8275
    @samcoleman8275 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Debian all the way . . . Keep in mind that Debian gets upstream improvements from daughter distros.

  • @Sluggernaut
    @Sluggernaut 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jeez whats with the NixOS hate, you guys? I love Nix. It's hella stable to me.

    • @TheLinuxCast
      @TheLinuxCast  14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Sluggernaut we don’t hate it. We like taking the Mickey out of Tyler.

    • @simonlewis6686
      @simonlewis6686 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheLinuxCast Just got this from ChatGPT: "If Snap and Flatpak are "batteries included" app ecosystems, Nix is more like building your own power grid - and it’s incredibly satisfying once it’s up and running.
      Enjoy the journey with Nix - it’s an exciting ride!"

  • @Ghis1964s
    @Ghis1964s 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tried ubuntu dozens of times before debian. Debian12. Yep, that long before. Ubuntu is slogish even on xfce, for a short description.
    For now, XFCE for my usage is top, #1 bar-none. Gnome and KDE will never cut it for me, no matter how many bling-bling flash-flash they add to them.... and making them slower and slower any next version (just like microsoft does LOL).
    I don't want my PC to look like a phone or an xbox or a TV. Simple enough.
    Debian runs well. I still have not ran into issues like it often happen with Arch (oh the keyrings.... those pesky arch keyrings) (...and they use HTTP servers to update them very "securely", while blasting to oblivion any next user who's not using HTTPS to browse the web. :|/

  • @AnthonyEhrhardt
    @AnthonyEhrhardt 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm going to install pop!os

  • @n1vz3r
    @n1vz3r 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Why everyone says Debian is Stable but doesn't elaborate that means Stable Versions, not the system you cannot crash

    • @TheLinuxCast
      @TheLinuxCast  11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think it's about context, and comparison to other distros

  • @CollinsBosah
    @CollinsBosah 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @sharkuel
    @sharkuel 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We all know that Anna Montanna Linux is the best.

  • @TheRob2D
    @TheRob2D 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I don't understand why people are still having trouble with Nvidia drivers. Just sudo ./ the driver package and agree to everything it asks. And you'll have your driver. Like, how is that hard???

  • @Henry-sv3wv
    @Henry-sv3wv 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    rm Ubuntu; touch 'Linux Mint'

  • @CyrusBrinkworthRAS
    @CyrusBrinkworthRAS 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so Pop OS fore the new PC & Ubuntu on the old ones... and some Debian around to......

    • @CyrusBrinkworthRAS
      @CyrusBrinkworthRAS 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      getting a "new PC" it's money.....

  • @HannoImmelman
    @HannoImmelman 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uhm excuse me LFS is the best distro.😂

  • @KennyPowers-dx3mz
    @KennyPowers-dx3mz 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    15 mins ago... What have I become

  • @eli.8991
    @eli.8991 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Ubuntu might be the best one for me. Snaps have really grown on me

    • @gljames24
      @gljames24 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's a rare opinion

  • @mattslivar5174
    @mattslivar5174 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well i installed debian and ubuntu on all of my machines easy i could not install pop os on 7 of my machines and i have 11 machines so pop os for me 3 place

  • @mark8200
    @mark8200 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Debian won

  • @CyrusBrinkworthRAS
    @CyrusBrinkworthRAS 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    audio books are bad fore humans! you stop reading it is bad to......

  • @apparition.spectre
    @apparition.spectre 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Voyager linux 24.10 gnome-xfce hybrid desktop

  • @vaggelisbasoukas7928
    @vaggelisbasoukas7928 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    no views, ONLY DISLIKE FOR SUCH UNSUPORTED CRAP !