I actually have even less confidence in the opposition. Now the world is in trouble and financial systems in vital countries like USA and china going through problems. Climate issues. Social issues. Etc. Only the pap is tackling those issues right now. What is the opposition doing? Making our parliament a circus show. This is a ridiculously unimportant issue. Why are our attentions being diverted to something as ridiculously trivial as this??
There was a 10% loss in confidence from 70% to 60%. Also lost another GRC - Sengkang. Will likely lose more like East Coast GRC headed by DPM HSK. Might also lose Jurong GRC since Tharman cannot run and Bukit Batok SMC.
If you want to know, Yes, it is indeed so. And very seriously. Especially when so many sotong ministers come in to defend and even CPIB dragged in. You simply can't have one treatment of market mechanism for the people, and one for the minister, and you cannot just expect lower rent or discount land valuation due to trees or what when you won't hence reflect that on reserves' asset valuation. Such different or preferential treatment that CPIB is now REPORTEDLY blind to... ... If you even read Ho Ching's recent 'thought' about even lower rent due to perhaps property too expensive for sales... ... also thanks to PAP government's Golden Era inflation and reckless market mechanism talk recently due to 99 years leases issues... ... are we not talking about massive devaluation of state reserves? Loong may be too focused on systematic clearing of ministers' mess but forget the accountancy and policy part... ... If you know the histories of the parts... ... this would have been a direct confrontation in parliament over corruption charges. Very very bad news. And reflect Loong's situation super badly. And it can directly challenge PAP's qualification or fitness to govern. Should the oppos so smarter, by now it will be into a motion of distrust. Which is why I prefer to stay behind, be left alone... ... If I need to be pushed into the open to blast... ... Why do I need to blast anyone when the termites are doing the great job already? I prefer the Ukraine Game and coming... ... world games... ... But this is kinda entertaining too. Hahahahaha... ... It also relates to the badminton poles saga in Taman Jurong, which carries similar political and governance issues. So as a citizen or 民意, where is my popcorn?
Seriously ownself check ownself.. All investigation done by pap members. No conflict of interest is a lie. How can there not by conflict of interest when the minister is literally their boss. Even if the minister withdraw himself out of the investigation and all. There is still conflict of interest regardless.
Minister Lee, anymore 0.11 cents/sqft/month for 23,000 sqm Good Class Bungalow for Singaporeans to rent or not? I am sure many Singaporeans want to rent for 3 X 3 X 3 X 3 years "special" contract, no need re-tender type. In HDB, even the aircon ledge exceeding 1m width is counted as chargeable GFA space. Maybe Singaporeans should tell the HDB the aircon ledge is non "livable space"?
@@bell-xk5dd Bad mouth? You do realise the rental rate directly reflect the valuation of the assets in state reserve? Just as any NORMAL accounting, be it buying business properties or not, the ROI is very important factor on valuation, and if Ho Ching said this is 'too expensive for sales', means ROI from rental will be de facto the main critical factor for valuation of State Reserve in this property segment. Do you understand what I am driving at? Loong is too busy trying to use state tools to fight this, but this is going to be very bad news. Should the oppos be even smarter, this will be an outright corruption case fight, especially when it involves the ever LKY sensitivity in reserves. Dragging in CPIB merely destroys CPIB, because BY RIGHT (again), CPIB should at least understand the accounting issue behind. Or how to be CPIB without accountants proper? So you have to choose, to commit political mistake or support massive devaluation of State reserves, but that doesn't stop here, this also relates to other valuation in the economy plus the policy mechanism and such 'support or mandate' to this. I try to not dive in more and deeper. But badmouth is definitely not the main issue here.
The properties were abandoned for quite sometime. How the 2 ministers knew about the properties and were suddenly tenanted out to the 2 ministers. This is relevant to ensure that there is no abuse of power on the part of the two ministers.
If you know this 10 years ago,our property prices will be even higher now. I believe all these are in the SLA tender list. Just search for them . Basically, if you're not looking for a GCB to stay, you'll never find one..
LKY would've handled this situation differently. Unfortunately I don't see why people are even wasting time watching this ongoing circus or what outcome are we expecting when it all came under the same umbrella?
Dear PM Lee, Title: High standard of integrity PAP sets for itself and potential obstruction of justice by KS. I am writing this message to bring awareness to the PM with regard to the inconclusiveness of the CPIB investigation into KS and the potential perversion of justice by KS. It was brought to the attention of many Singaporeans that during the course of CPIB investigation, KS had set his phone(s) to delete relevant information and messages. This was affirmed by KS himself on his ministerial speech on the 3rd of July. As Singapore is a country with rule of law, this is a worrying revelation and brings into question the credibility and incorruptibility of the Singapore government. In Singapore, everyone is presume innocent until proven guilty, thus it is important for the revelation to be investigated thoroughly. I urge the PM to consider reopening the criminal investigation into KS and VB and have proper and transparent investigation process to establish a credible and complete investigation. This would then quell any public speculation and accusation against KS and your administration. Finally, as given in your speech, the PAP sets high standard for itself and is incorruptible. I have full confidence that this government is not only here to pay lip service and would take the necessary and correct action. Thank you very much. An average and concerned Singapore citizen.
We all know very well that politicians are often criticised for extravagant lifestyles, Minister Vivian Balakrishnan and Minister K Shanmugam should be more sensitive about this. Whether or not legal procedure was followed is not the issue. Living in a colossal excessive property when ordinary Singaporeans are struggling is the issue.
minister shan said in parliment he rented his queen astrid gcb so that he can sell his house. but cant he stay in it and sell? y must he rent the biggest gcb
@@homehome3071 I think PM Lee said it is ok for ministers to live within their salary and their means. But we know there are Singaporeans that will disagree with this.
Let's not forget that Snake sham is specially appointed as Law Minister and Home Affairs Minister which means he has control over the police and the justice system all at once . This is one point. Also, he was a party involved in the whole Oxley saga and the Will. Why is LHL giving one person 2 powers of office all at the same time when we know for sure the appointment of the ministries must be kept distinctly separate to different individuals in many democracies to avoid collusion and monopolization of powers, the worst being total corruption.
They would be immediately evicted from Ridout by SLA citing housing hazards or some other kind of cheap excuse or simply jack up their rents by 40% like what NTU did to its dorm students v
Control ? All OUT Of CONTROL LKY got rid of Strikes n Riots. Under the Son; 1st Strike by CHINA FWs Bus Drivers n 1st Riot by INDIA FWs Burning Police cars in Little India. LKY Got rid of CORRUPTION. NOW Corruption even in CPIB. What a BLOODY Joke. AMK TC Right under PM's Nose ALSO Got CORRUPTION. CORRUPTION in NTUC. KOM CORRUPTION Farce. Compare The times of LKY n his Son Wonderful 4G. WORST Is Yet To Come 10M Coming MORE IMPORTED PROBLEMS n HIGHER PRICES
Why don't these bungalows make way for new developments since they are under utilised instead of forcing residents to relocate due to enbloc. Worst still, they are getting a smaller version of their previous homes with higher price. Tariffs for utilities and conservancy going up again. TC has reduced the number of workers managing the cleanliness of hdb estates despite the rising charges.
Good lord.... Looking at his current condition now 2025 really can't come sooner enough. His retirement and stepping down date is long overdue. Not to mention his political results and legacy is disastrous to look at. This man is not cut out to be a good state ruler.
The ministerial statements did not conclusively determine KS and VB innocence. Instead, it had brought up more questions in the minds of the public and even surfaced incriminating evidence to their crimes. In KS's speech, he affirmed that CPIB only " look through" his phone and did not find any relevant information because he had his phone set to "delete messages". This might have shown KS's intent to obstruct justice by destroying key evidence to all his alleged crimes. I am urging PM Lee to reopen the criminal investigation into KS and VB citing the new revelation. CPIB must raid KS and VB to detain and use digital forensic technologies to retrieve all deleted files as soon as possible before all data are lost permanently. If the two ministers are found to have committed crimes, they must be trialed and punished with the full force of the law. If PM Lee refuses to reopen the criminal investigation, then the public must conclude that the PAP in no longer incorruptible. This will mean devastating consequences for the PAP in the upcoming general election.
The PAP not Dumb or Naive … They don’t need to Win Super Majority , They Can Rule via Proxy … We don’t know if Obedient Halimah have already help PAP to Drain our Reserves …
By any standard, this is an integrity issue. Your confidence in them is no value and meaningless, it only drag you n Singapore into the Integrity "blackhole ".
Actually quite true. No preferential? Hee hee hee hee... ... Singapore is too small that among citizens going with normal market mechanism, here we have trees lah, that discounting off lah... ... and as if HDB dwellers can just move in a live-able flat unit, no need renovations, that while the walls can be rotten, wallpapers and such may not even be existent that HDB dwellers must also fork out money to bring in sleep-able beds, proper wall conditioning and so on, hence... ... they can ask HDB to make them pay less LEASE? Aiyah... ... Not to mention the rental rate which BY RIGHT reflect the land value and property value related to State Reserve valuation... ... Should I go on?
You are saying it is not a legal but a moral issue. Correct? Sometimes like in this case perception is everything because there is a lack of openness and transparency and not all relevant questions are answered.
allowing a minister to rent a property under his charge is called good ethics? a good ethics minister should not even consider and allow any potential conflict of interest. now we are wasting taxpayers to even debate about it. i dont think there is any wrong doing. but to consider Mr Sham knows about the potential conflict of interest and the steps he took to avoid it. does a minister know the ABC of potential conflict of interest.
"Optics" looks very bad if the two ministers are making huge profit renting out their GCB because they are renting Ridout properties at a much lower rent.
Lee H.Y was right. These 2 infringed the ministerial code. It was not becos they HAD NO HOUSE, as a matter one of them HAD A GCB. They could just have sold and brought another 'more affordable' house if they so wish and that by no means is another 'smaller' house. They would still be able to buy ,renovate their purchase of another BUNGALOW. Each of them proclaimed that they too spent more than close to $500k in the refurbishment of these B&W houses and why would $500k not enough to reno their own houses rather than to rent them and spend it there? But no, they saw a opportunity whereby they could rent cheap and yet use the state fund of more than HALF A MILLION EACH TO RENO those B&W house for their own occupancy. In Chinese saying, this is what is called..A CHOW KUAN behavior. Teo CH is Teochew I presume, the moment he came across this issus, he knew outright this was so. The chow kuan behavior of these 2 ministers is exactly what the ministerial code of conduct was drafted to 'inform' these folks of the expected level of behavior ,if such ppl were to hold such high level of appointment as elected official, to NOT behave as such. But it is exactly, when the code is not really specific as to what is consitute to be 'chow kuan' behavior, that such ppl like these 2 ministers exploits. So there was no corruption, there was no conflict of interest but there was that chow kuan behavior coming from such presumbly highly respected ppl ,who were elected and who were NOT EXPECTED to behave as such but did.
Dear PM Lee, Title: High standard of integrity PAP sets for itself and potential obstruction of justice by KS. I am writing this message to bring awareness to the PM with regard to the inconclusiveness of the CPIB investigation into KS and the potential perversion of justice by KS. It was brought to the attention of many Singaporeans that during the course of CPIB investigation, KS had set his phone(s) to delete relevant information and messages. This was affirmed by KS himself on his ministerial speech on the 3rd of July. As Singapore is a country with rule of law, this is a worrying revelation and brings into question the credibility and incorruptibility of the Singapore government. In Singapore, everyone is presume innocent until proven guilty, thus it is important for the revelation to be investigated thoroughly. I urge the PM to consider reopening the criminal investigation into KS and VB and have proper and transparent investigation process to establish a credible and complete investigation. This would then quell any public speculation and accusation against KS and your administration. Finally, as given in your speech, the PAP sets high standard for itself and is incorruptible. I have full confidence that this government is not only here to pay lip service and would take the necessary and correct action. Thank you very much. An average and concerned Singapore citizen.
@@leexianlong6855 Really? He wants to reopen the investigation because Shanmugam's phone is set to delete old messages when all other evidence shows no corruption and conflict of interest? As if deleting messages is a crime? So because he deleted his old messages, it is proof enough there must be something nefarious going on. What happened to presume innocence until proven guilty mentioned in the letter? Should we be investigating any office holders that delete old messages? The point is deleting old messages is a crime nor grounds for investigation of wrong doing, unless there is a crime committed and there are collaborations between two/more parties. What is the crime and collaborative evidence to support that? This is more like a desperate attempt to keep the investigation going until we can find something wrong. Is that what we want Singapore to be? A spiteful people that can't accept facts that were clearly presented?
Even if they weren’t ministers they would still be richer than you. Actually if they were in private practice, with their qualifications and ability, they would be earning more than what they’re earning now as ministers. Go look up how much eye surgeons and lawyers can earn in private practice.
Loong's government is already broken. Rich ministers do such things. Poor people... ... later exposed they don't take care. Hahahahahahaha... ... Seriously f-ed governance. The more units dragged in, the more ministers jumping in... ... the faster the mati... ... ... RID out... indeed.
How can there be no conflict of interest? So if u want to sell your GCB, why can't u continue to stay in it? If I want to sell my hdb, u mean I have to rent a condo first? It just don't add up. U claim you don't want your savings tie up in an asset, but u able to spend 500k to renovate a black n white. We will NV know the exact details behind the scene. But alot of details don't add up. And he look nervous explaining himself.
I already told you put a,independent panel not from pap😂 you see cleared😂😂 integrity? Talk about integrity act first😂why not least put opposition or independent panel
From this episode , we can see how Unpopular Sham is . The Attack from all Angles of the Public . Mr Sham has to know Why so many peoples or public Dislikes him . Hope he knows n Improve on his Wellbeing what makes Him today . Wish u well for the future !
Sir, I'm sorry your standards are a failure to your late Father. Sir you have to be strict to your Soldiers, Since you are a Brigade General. Stop saving the integrity of your lost man.
I pity the PM, it looks to me that he was trying to defend the indefensible. Singaporeans are smart and I believe they have made their own conclusions.
Dear PM Lee, Title: High standard of integrity PAP sets for itself and potential obstruction of justice by KS. I am writing this message to bring awareness to the PM with regard to the inconclusiveness of the CPIB investigation into KS and the potential perversion of justice by KS. It was brought to the attention of many Singaporeans that during the course of CPIB investigation, KS had set his phone(s) to delete relevant information and messages. This was affirmed by KS himself on his ministerial speech on the 3rd of July. As Singapore is a country with rule of law, this is a worrying revelation and brings into question the credibility and incorruptibility of the Singapore government. In Singapore, everyone is presume innocent until proven guilty, thus it is important for the revelation to be investigated thoroughly. I urge the PM to consider reopening the criminal investigation into KS and VB and have proper and transparent investigation process to establish a credible and complete investigation. This would then quell any public speculation and accusation against KS and your administration. Finally, as given in your speech, the PAP sets high standard for itself and is incorruptible. I have full confidence that this government is not only here to pay lip service and would take the necessary and correct action. Thank you very much. An average and concerned Singapore citizen.
It is highly likely that the Prime Minister will support those who have been supportive of him, as they form a collective group utilizing the system to their advantage. This situation appears evident and concerning, even from my perspective. Regrettably, Singaporeans have voted for this current state of affairs.
If a public servant reports to TC some issues surely they will not be given priority but only pure fairness? How about every thing else? 😅 I boy boy one. I don't know anything one. Any one knows? Yeah! Singapore does not operate based on Cronyism😅
For this issue to be brought up in public clearly shows that the two millionaire ministers suffered a lapse of good judgement. Vivian suffered more than once by making an unnecessary remark on NCMP Leong Mun Wai on Sept 14, 2021. "Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan (left) apologised to NCMP Leong Mun Wai for comments he made in Parliament on Sept 14, 2021." - Channel News Asia
To protect PAP, Vivian should have stepped down. IF not, Lee Kuan Yew if alive would have just axed him, and Shanmugam. And the oppos will never have such chance to go this far, and the party, plus his precious reserves will be more... ... at ease. 子曰人至无耻则无敌也... ... 脸皮真的超级厚就是。 老夫个人看法就是。
Let's assume the CPIB is in the pocket of the PAP. If that is so, then if and when an opposition finally wins the right to govern, how can we believe the CPIB will not be in the pocket of that government? If we continue on this tack where we constantly question and never trust our authorities, how are we going to maintain a society other than one that is always filled with mistrust? Today, such societies abound, especially from those that claim to be democratic and allow unhindered free speech. But they count themselves amongst the most dysfunctional. In fact, they are also proving to be the most corrupt. Because a society that is fractured and divisive is actually the most fertile ground for corruption. Just do your own due diligence instead of just taking others opinions as gospel. Otherwise, don't blame anybody else if we descend into the same pit as those other dysfunctional societies.
@Danderman888 you are close to pm, can ask him he has anymore $0.11 psf base on land landed house to rent, all my friends and me wish to rent this price
It’s your own personal “PAP-brainwashed” opinion that other more democratic countries are “dysfunctional”, that’s your own opinion after PAP brainwashing, your delusions don’t make it fact, and isn’t reality. What the hell is “conduct your own due diligence”, without limits and restrictions on unchecked unlimited power inherent in one-party or one dominant party-government. Of course the garbage you spew here surely can find its audience. Gullible simpletons like you are dime a dozen in authoritarian countries.
Taukeh, what happened to the $300+ million mishandled by Vivian during YOG? Najib is behind bars while our ministers enjoying supreme lifestyle. So who's more corrupted? Majulah Singapura!
PM says this issue is not just if there was any legal wrong doings but also if there was any, quote: "quite apart from the law, whether there was ANY misconduct" . Well, let's hear what was investigated and what the findings are. As PM says "when it comes to corruption" we have independent investigations, but that is not the key point here, right? And PM goes on to say, it is up to the PM to judge. Let's hear his take on this, not more and more of that "there was no corruption". If a minister approaches a civil servant for information for personal use, what does that say about misconduct and is a high level of integrity demonstrated?
Can we increase the minister wages to least let them own and live in their own property like 80 percent of the citizen. this is the least we can do for our poor ministers
Last Qn from pritam brings it home for me. They didn't follow the correct something something but cos PM accepted than its all ok. Very men in white like attitude
Why can’t they? They literally commit their lives to serve their nation. I think they deserve to live a good life. Who are we to dictate what they can and cannot do.
I have a question regarding the government's responsibility to provide the best possible lifestyle and care for its citizens. Why is it that the majority of Singaporeans are living in low socioeconomic status (SES) while politicians enjoy a high SES lifestyle? Can you explain the reasons behind this disparity? Also 90 vs 10 seats, how can opposition fight?
eh this pm's response to the ridout road issue is quite questionable lah. he talk about values n integrity but his explanation for ministers renting properties from sla or private landlords leh damn weak lah. just because ministers get clean salary without perks doesn't mean they can do whatever they want without transparency n accountability sia n then he say cpib will do an independent investigation but wah can we really trust that ah? say their reputation as an anti-corruption outfit guarantees impartiality but who knows if got behind-the-scenes influence or not? plus he appoint his kaki senior minister tio chiang to do some review. confirm got conflict of interest one lah even though he say tio not involved in the transactions. should've got external body to do the review make sure it's really independent n fair you know? the pm also say he knows what's proper or not don't need external input. eh that's a bit cocky sia. got to have checks n balances ma to make sure got fair assessment of ministerial conduct pm's attempt to restore trust n talk about integrity damn not convincing sia. need proper n truly independent investigation not just empty words n assurance. we singaporeans deserve better lah
Can. But just prepare to devaluate state reserves when he is the PM. Why not? He can pull in CPIB as well, and even rent at $0 so that state reserves for properties segment can go close to zero... ... Hahahahahahaha... ... Anything is possible. And if so, HDB flat should also be 'valued' accordingly... ... especially when you have trees disadvantaging the price and such valuation... ... Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ... Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ... Pitam can also cut off weeds, bring in things to make the camp live-able, just as almost HDB dweller in modern living, and demand valuation to be cut even more since he and HDB dwellers all pay to do so. Aiya... ... This is rather hilarious a saga. And to support such a 'leading by example', logically we can expect more sagas and entertainment to come. CPIB... ... ... Why drag in an innocent unit?
Our parliament house must be one of those few which witnessed the airings of family disputes, personal choice of residence.... agenda that has nothing to do with state affairs.
@@chenghonggoh4746 Don't be silly! Who cares where they live till your opa made the big deal! Did anyone question why Mr Lee Hsien Loong don't live in Sri Temasek as PM?
This entertaining Episode makes the world see singapore voters are very intelligent can Discern🤣🤣🥳🥳 i so happy i cannot help but burst into tears of joy
This is the SOP for LKY approved clique both LHL and daddy were cleared by Goh Chok Tong - Nassim Jade & Scotts 28 saga - Now LHL has to - pay it forward - and clear his "adopted brothers"
PM Lee also said he has full confidence in the PAP candidate selection process but has not explained why it picked Ivan Lim to run as a candidate for Jurong GRC during the last GE (and why it did not defended Ivan when he was criticised by voters). The PAP said it would return to the saga after the GE. When? It is two years since the last GE.
I am pretty sure majority us will look at the evidences and facts provided in this investigation and come to a fair conclusion. There are shortfalls but there is no major breeches or corruption. I am happy opposition did contribute to the fact findings although some are just nuisance. A fair minded person would understand ministers are also humans too. They do have desire and as long as they fulfill their dreams without corruption or compromising the country's interest, why not. People that keeps harping on their salaries being high or "ownself check ownself" and therefore anything they do must be corruption or something nefarious; without providing any facts, are just lazy or rationally imbalance.
@@godsamazinggrace5331 Bro, please dont argue because i knew everything about Jesus Christ. Amen. Ly gifted son sent by the Lord Jesus Christ to my family. Fyi Whatever u human call it manger or house or bungalow is not important but the fundamental value of a person is in the heart. Amen
the problem is guide rent is way too low, and if u go sla website, the average psf base on land is 1-3 psf, cant find a 11 cents psf. and even leong took out SM teo sla average rent chart and showed in parliment that vivan initial tenancy was 22% lower than the average rent. this is pap own sla chart!
Ownself check ownself - doesn’t work anymore, cos TRUST is lost. Minister for Law KNOWS what is “Conflict of Interest”. CPIB should jus follow the $$$$. Everyone so nervous
over my career i've seen many senior managers eventually demise if they are not impartial towards their subordinates. Luckily this government is impartial and have good integrity. 👍
Yes , so much Integrity that it’s difficult to ignore the unmistakable pattern of many LKY Trusted Generals either Distancing or Declining High Office Appointments after LKY passed … Coincidence or KARMA?
What were the breaches in procedures found? Show us the paper trail! What was in the report and investigation? Show Did they use their authority in the bidding when they outsourced the process? What’s the evidence and where are witnesses! Bring them out The ministers departments, specifically law, to exclude possibility of conflict of interest in this investigation itself. The relevant department - land authority - what did they say? Did they provide evidence for one conclusion or the other? When taken to CPIB, what was their conclusion? Did they provide evidence and conclude on a different verdict? Taken to Teo Chee Hean, also now what’s his investigations verdict. If it’s not concluded they did wrong doing, time for another investigation. If still conclude no foul play - no - investigate from a different independent entity until we find something. Still no? No condemnation? All the investigations so far are one sided for the PAP. Do another investigation until we find them out as criminals and send them to jail. Tomorrow, no evidence, continue next month. Next month no evidence, try again and again within the year. One year no evidence? No! Every year we must check if the ridout saga has any paper trail or witnesses and first person accounts that there was wrong doing. If we don’t find out by then, we aren’t trying hard enough. This is totally reasonable! Put more money and time into this. We must take them down! Every year must try! Each and every not guilty investigation are lies and rigged. The one investigation that says they’re guilty - that will be the right one!
Minister Shan said in parliment he rented his Queen Astrid gcb so that he can sell his house. but cant he stay in it and sell and he went to rent the biggest gcb in SG!
The Keppel shipyard saga was also cleared by the CPIB?? Laughable!!???
Don't be silly! Know what is once acquitted, can't be prosecuted on the same crime again?!😝
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
Also the Liew Mun Leong case also, so many of them.
PM Lee, you may have full confidence in Sham and Bala but will the voting Singaporeans have the full confidence? Time will tell in the next GE..
Excellent n well said comments......👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
PM favour this 2 trees but Forfeits the whole Forest !
I actually have even less confidence in the opposition. Now the world is in trouble and financial systems in vital countries like USA and china going through problems. Climate issues. Social issues. Etc. Only the pap is tackling those issues right now. What is the opposition doing? Making our parliament a circus show. This is a ridiculously unimportant issue. Why are our attentions being diverted to something as ridiculously trivial as this??
There was a 10% loss in confidence from 70% to 60%. Also lost another GRC - Sengkang. Will likely lose more like East Coast GRC headed by DPM HSK. Might also lose Jurong GRC since Tharman cannot run and Bukit Batok SMC.
@@oliverb3687 What do you expect the Opposition to do or say when they know very little because the government is not open and transparent?
All own people, ownself check ownself at its finest
Why not put the opposition in the committee of inquiry??
Does anyone in opposition qualify?
lol an opposition led by Pritam Singh who still has that cloud of the lying scandal over him and the whole Workers Party?
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
@@bell-xk5dd Yes, because they are the Opposition and will ask tough questions
@@franciscody9622
I haven’t heard any tough questions so far...all silly questions were easily tackled..what so tough so far?
Its the PAP show, not debate.
If they had the wisdom to rent private properties, no such time wasting explanations would be needed.
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
Why isn't this investigation and standards applied to Keppel scandal?
Don't be silly! Know what is once acquitted, can't be prosecuted on the same crime again?!😝
@@鲁焚化炉 is that what happened to the Keppel scandal? Since when were they acquitted?
Also done by CPIB
Missing the point?!😝
Didn't know a witness refused to testify?!
Didn't know that they may still be prosecuted once compelling facts come to light?!
The more theee Pappigs Government opened uo their mouth the more they loses the trust of Singaporeans...
i dont want to hear any complaints in the comments, you voted for this government.
The ones who voted are the old generations
@@Unknownplsyerthe one that vote are the infestedspecies
@@Unknownplsyer And the new citizens.
Integrity has been compromised and tarnished
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
If you want to know, Yes, it is indeed so. And very seriously. Especially when so many sotong ministers come in to defend and even CPIB dragged in.
You simply can't have one treatment of market mechanism for the people, and one for the minister, and you cannot just expect lower rent or discount land valuation due to trees or what when you won't hence reflect that on reserves' asset valuation.
Such different or preferential treatment that CPIB is now REPORTEDLY blind to... ...
If you even read Ho Ching's recent 'thought' about even lower rent due to perhaps property too expensive for sales... ... also thanks to PAP government's Golden Era inflation and reckless market mechanism talk recently due to 99 years leases issues... ... are we not talking about massive devaluation of state reserves?
Loong may be too focused on systematic clearing of ministers' mess but forget the accountancy and policy part... ...
If you know the histories of the parts... ... this would have been a direct confrontation in parliament over corruption charges.
Very very bad news. And reflect Loong's situation super badly. And it can directly challenge PAP's qualification or fitness to govern.
Should the oppos so smarter, by now it will be into a motion of distrust.
Which is why I prefer to stay behind, be left alone... ... If I need to be pushed into the open to blast... ...
Why do I need to blast anyone when the termites are doing the great job already?
I prefer the Ukraine Game and coming... ... world games... ...
But this is kinda entertaining too. Hahahahaha... ...
It also relates to the badminton poles saga in Taman Jurong, which carries similar political and governance issues.
So as a citizen or 民意, where is my popcorn?
Seriously ownself check ownself.. All investigation done by pap members. No conflict of interest is a lie. How can there not by conflict of interest when the minister is literally their boss. Even if the minister withdraw himself out of the investigation and all. There is still conflict of interest regardless.
If this issue is on opposition, they will never let go so easily and check them till no ends.
"Terkan" them back just remember how the PAP "terkan" the WP about the town council saga......😆😅🤣👍👍👍
@@azhariann6843
Balik kampong hantu
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
Yup 👍
😂😂😂wait till there is 50% Opposition Party in Parliament otherwise keep your mouth shut la 🤫
Checking Own self to Own SELF
Minister Lee, anymore 0.11 cents/sqft/month for 23,000 sqm Good Class Bungalow for Singaporeans to rent or not? I am sure many Singaporeans want to rent for 3 X 3 X 3 X 3 years "special" contract, no need re-tender type. In HDB, even the aircon ledge exceeding 1m width is counted as chargeable GFA space. Maybe Singaporeans should tell the HDB the aircon ledge is non "livable space"?
R u a foreigner?
Finally Singaporeans have woken up to full confirmation that they are being treated simply as slaves, peasants and descendents of British subjects
@@leanne2330
That troll is obviously a foreigner...probably kicked out of Singapore...came back here to badmouth
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
@@bell-xk5dd Bad mouth?
You do realise the rental rate directly reflect the valuation of the assets in state reserve?
Just as any NORMAL accounting, be it buying business properties or not, the ROI is very important factor on valuation, and if Ho Ching said this is 'too expensive for sales', means ROI from rental will be de facto the main critical factor for valuation of State Reserve in this property segment.
Do you understand what I am driving at?
Loong is too busy trying to use state tools to fight this, but this is going to be very bad news.
Should the oppos be even smarter, this will be an outright corruption case fight, especially when it involves the ever LKY sensitivity in reserves.
Dragging in CPIB merely destroys CPIB, because BY RIGHT (again), CPIB should at least understand the accounting issue behind. Or how to be CPIB without accountants proper?
So you have to choose, to commit political mistake or support massive devaluation of State reserves, but that doesn't stop here, this also relates to other valuation in the economy plus the policy mechanism and such 'support or mandate' to this. I try to not dive in more and deeper.
But badmouth is definitely not the main issue here.
4G leaders, the trio of LW, OYK and CCS, should express their assessment of Ridout Road. The silence is deafening from 4G leadership.
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
I guess they are also speechless.
PUPPETS
lol, probably praying hard Kenneth isn't watching them
THE PROBLEM is also the main opposition are not even saying anything much. are expecting the people to voice their opinion through youtube etc?
The properties were abandoned for quite sometime. How the 2 ministers knew about the properties and were suddenly tenanted out to the 2 ministers. This is relevant to ensure that there is no abuse of power on the part of the two ministers.
dun be ignorant. such units are up for bidding if you have money. it is because you are a peasant, that is why you dun know about such units.....
Singapore is so small, why cannot. If big country like China , then cannot..
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
If you know this 10 years ago,our property prices will be even higher now.
I believe all these are in the SLA tender list. Just search for them .
Basically, if you're not looking for a GCB to stay, you'll never find one..
@@bell-xk5dd Why cannot, you already say yourself. Singapore don't have many lands like China duh
LKY would've handled this situation differently. Unfortunately I don't see why people are even wasting time watching this ongoing circus or what outcome are we expecting when it all came under the same umbrella?
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
Go Google LKY’s own saga - LKY Nassim Jade.
want to see what lies they can invent! and the embarrassment of how a lie is broken.
Dear PM Lee,
Title: High standard of integrity PAP sets for itself and potential obstruction of justice by KS.
I am writing this message to bring awareness to the PM with regard to the inconclusiveness of the CPIB investigation into KS and the potential perversion of justice by KS.
It was brought to the attention of many Singaporeans that during the course of CPIB investigation, KS had set his phone(s) to delete relevant information and messages. This was affirmed by KS himself on his ministerial speech on the 3rd of July. As Singapore is a country with rule of law, this is a worrying revelation and brings into question the credibility and incorruptibility of the Singapore government. In Singapore, everyone is presume innocent until proven guilty, thus it is important for the revelation to be investigated thoroughly. I urge the PM to consider reopening the criminal investigation into KS and VB and have proper and transparent investigation process to establish a credible and complete investigation. This would then quell any public speculation and accusation against KS and your administration. Finally, as given in your speech, the PAP sets high standard for itself and is incorruptible. I have full confidence that this government is not only here to pay lip service and would take the necessary and correct action. Thank you very much.
An average and concerned Singapore citizen.
LKY ?
You were not around ?
>>> NASSIM JADE & SCOTTS 28
We all know very well that politicians are often criticised for extravagant lifestyles, Minister Vivian Balakrishnan and Minister K Shanmugam should be more sensitive about this. Whether or not legal procedure was followed is not the issue. Living in a colossal excessive property when ordinary Singaporeans are struggling is the issue.
minister shan said in parliment he rented his queen astrid gcb so that he can sell his house. but cant he stay in it and sell? y must he rent the biggest gcb
@@homehome3071 I think PM Lee said it is ok for ministers to live within their salary and their means. But we know there are Singaporeans that will disagree with this.
Let's not forget that Snake sham is specially appointed as Law Minister and Home Affairs Minister which means he has control over the police and the justice system all at once . This is one point. Also, he was a party involved in the whole Oxley saga and the Will. Why is LHL giving one person 2 powers of office all at the same time when we know for sure the appointment of the ministries must be kept distinctly separate to different individuals in many democracies to avoid collusion and monopolization of powers, the worst being total corruption.
Well said!
Two Malaysians here blabbing garbage...
Didn't know his name is Snake Sham? Nice one! 😂😂😂
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
Snake sham @ Mama drama
If the opposition had done the same, there would be a bloodbath of massacre
They would be immediately evicted from Ridout by SLA citing housing hazards or some other kind of cheap excuse or simply jack up their rents by 40% like what NTU did to its dorm students v
Maybe it’s time CBIP starts investigating why LTK is living in such a big house on a big plot of freehold land....
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
@@bell-xk5dd whos LTK..??
Will never happen because Opposition do not own GCB.
SG needs more opposition parties. Need to further check into the govts.
What has WP checked so far?
Unless there’s 1/3 opposition, they’re easily overridden. Need bigger voice
⅓ can override ⅔?!😝
Voting more WP into parliment the PAP will wake up....
😂😅😊
Just let WP be the ruling party, see if PS dare to take it!😝
He is not a strong boss like his father. He can't control his men.
Control ?
All OUT Of CONTROL
LKY got rid of Strikes n Riots.
Under the Son; 1st Strike by CHINA FWs Bus Drivers n 1st Riot by INDIA FWs Burning Police cars in Little India.
LKY Got rid of CORRUPTION.
NOW Corruption even in CPIB. What a BLOODY Joke.
AMK TC Right under PM's Nose ALSO Got CORRUPTION.
CORRUPTION in NTUC.
KOM CORRUPTION Farce.
Compare The times of LKY n his Son
Wonderful 4G.
WORST Is Yet To Come
10M Coming
MORE IMPORTED PROBLEMS n HIGHER PRICES
His men are not puppets.. Are you a puppet controlled by oppositions?
@@richardchee2454
His siblings had sold their souls to the devils...like you are ...
@@bell-xk5ddhuh no understand you leh 😂😂
He's too softttt
The result of the inquiry was a foregone conclusion
If will likely be different if Lim Tean is in Parliament.
Look at Goh Keng Swee, Hon Sui Shen and other ministers at that time...they don't do things like that .. what's wrong today???
If its LKY's approved clique
whatever it was - certainly occurred - and would be hushed
Why don't these bungalows make way for new developments since they are under utilised instead of forcing residents to relocate due to enbloc. Worst still, they are getting a smaller version of their previous homes with higher price. Tariffs for utilities and conservancy going up again. TC has reduced the number of workers managing the cleanliness of hdb estates despite the rising charges.
Cos that particular zone is for landed properties only.
Perhaps even for hdb flats
CPIB is independent, said its PM !?
😂😂🤣😂🤣
CPIB Report into PMO
Opps
Good lord....
Looking at his current condition now 2025 really can't come sooner enough.
His retirement and stepping down date is long overdue.
Not to mention his political results and legacy is disastrous to look at.
This man is not cut out to be a good state ruler.
The ministerial statements did not conclusively determine KS and VB innocence. Instead, it had brought up more questions in the minds of the public and even surfaced incriminating evidence to their crimes. In KS's speech, he affirmed that CPIB only " look through" his phone and did not find any relevant information because he had his phone set to "delete messages". This might have shown KS's intent to obstruct justice by destroying key evidence to all his alleged crimes. I am urging PM Lee to reopen the criminal investigation into KS and VB citing the new revelation. CPIB must raid KS and VB to detain and use digital forensic technologies to retrieve all deleted files as soon as possible before all data are lost permanently. If the two ministers are found to have committed crimes, they must be trialed and punished with the full force of the law. If PM Lee refuses to reopen the criminal investigation, then the public must conclude that the PAP in no longer incorruptible. This will mean devastating consequences for the PAP in the upcoming general election.
Verbal diarrhoea 🤮🤮
The PAP not Dumb or Naive … They don’t need to Win Super Majority , They Can Rule via Proxy … We don’t know if Obedient Halimah have already help PAP to Drain our Reserves …
❤ Amen ❤
@@oenrob98000
Blasphemy...
@@bell-xk5dd Praise the Lord 🌼
By any standard, this is an integrity issue. Your confidence in them is no value and meaningless, it only drag you n Singapore into the Integrity "blackhole ".
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
What's wrong in ministers living where they want to live. Let them live there life. Politics is a hectic job. Why pressure them even more
Maybe they have confidence that they can answer any query.........
Actually quite true. No preferential?
Hee hee hee hee... ... Singapore is too small that among citizens going with normal market mechanism, here we have trees lah, that discounting off lah... ... and as if HDB dwellers can just move in a live-able flat unit, no need renovations, that while the walls can be rotten, wallpapers and such may not even be existent that HDB dwellers must also fork out money to bring in sleep-able beds, proper wall conditioning and so on, hence... ... they can ask HDB to make them pay less LEASE?
Aiyah... ...
Not to mention the rental rate which BY RIGHT reflect the land value and property value related to State Reserve valuation... ...
Should I go on?
You are saying it is not a legal but a moral issue. Correct? Sometimes like in this case perception is everything because there is a lack of openness and transparency and not all relevant questions are answered.
LKY will screw them up and down. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 will never happen.
Those days are OVER!
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
They were chosen by the chosen one. 😂
True.
Also if the PAP only has a slim majority in Parliament.
Like the baboons say, I scratch your back, you scratch mine ROFL!
allowing a minister to rent a property under his charge is called good ethics? a good ethics minister should not even consider and allow any potential conflict of interest. now we are wasting taxpayers to even debate about it. i dont think there is any wrong doing. but to consider Mr Sham knows about the potential conflict of interest and the steps he took to avoid it. does a minister know the ABC of potential conflict of interest.
"Optics" looks very bad if the two ministers are making huge profit renting out their GCB because they are renting Ridout properties at a much lower rent.
So is it ethical for PM's personal lawyer to become head of AGC with no other prior experience?
Absolutely! Just like how his wife became head of Temasek and his army General buddies became heads of stat boards and Ministers.
AG Lucien Wong is a good and competent lawyer.
@@franciscody9622 😅 Lucien a good and competent lawyer? Thanks for the laugh!
Lee H.Y was right. These 2 infringed the ministerial code.
It was not becos they HAD NO HOUSE, as a matter one of them HAD A GCB.
They could just have sold and brought another 'more affordable' house if they so wish and that by no means is another 'smaller' house.
They would still be able to buy ,renovate their purchase of another BUNGALOW. Each of them proclaimed that they too spent more than close to $500k in the refurbishment of these B&W houses and why would $500k not enough to reno their own houses rather than to rent them and spend it there?
But no, they saw a opportunity whereby they could rent cheap and yet use the state fund of more than HALF A MILLION EACH TO RENO those B&W house for their own occupancy.
In Chinese saying, this is what is called..A CHOW KUAN behavior.
Teo CH is Teochew I presume, the moment he came across this issus, he knew outright this was so.
The chow kuan behavior of these 2 ministers is exactly what the ministerial code of conduct was drafted to 'inform' these folks of the expected level of behavior ,if such ppl were to hold such high level of appointment as elected official, to NOT behave as such.
But it is exactly, when the code is not really specific as to what is consitute to be 'chow kuan' behavior, that such ppl like these 2 ministers exploits.
So there was no corruption, there was no conflict of interest but there was that chow kuan behavior coming from such presumbly highly respected ppl ,who were elected and who were NOT EXPECTED to behave as such but did.
这些部长算是完蛋了。有他们在，反对派不是应该庆祝？
就如Ukraine那里，有俄罗斯傻子军方在，那不是敌人反而是在俄罗斯的乌克兰战友。哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈~
如今李显龙总理得罪了超级大国，成功因没才能的班底搞成了孤立... ...更多的将被特务挖出来，并且走’向国际‘。
老夫不在朝，结果就是这样了。
山木根这次的问题还特别严重。要是脸皮不够厚，那还能继续在内阁摇来摇去？
现在外界若在说新加坡的以权谋私腐败saga，新加坡能怎么反击？越反击越描越黑。
李公子还想继续这样堕落颓废下去吗？
习近平最好好好看着这闹剧，因中国情况也好不到哪去。中国也是没高手乱乱来的问题。很严重了。
A self serving government justifying its self serving is absolutely disgusting !!!
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
So which evidence do you have it is self serving? Your divine feeling again? 😂😂
Dear PM Lee,
Title: High standard of integrity PAP sets for itself and potential obstruction of justice by KS.
I am writing this message to bring awareness to the PM with regard to the inconclusiveness of the CPIB investigation into KS and the potential perversion of justice by KS.
It was brought to the attention of many Singaporeans that during the course of CPIB investigation, KS had set his phone(s) to delete relevant information and messages. This was affirmed by KS himself on his ministerial speech on the 3rd of July. As Singapore is a country with rule of law, this is a worrying revelation and brings into question the credibility and incorruptibility of the Singapore government. In Singapore, everyone is presume innocent until proven guilty, thus it is important for the revelation to be investigated thoroughly. I urge the PM to consider reopening the criminal investigation into KS and VB and have proper and transparent investigation process to establish a credible and complete investigation. This would then quell any public speculation and accusation against KS and your administration. Finally, as given in your speech, the PAP sets high standard for itself and is incorruptible. I have full confidence that this government is not only here to pay lip service and would take the necessary and correct action. Thank you very much.
An average and concerned Singapore citizen.
@@leexianlong6855 Really? He wants to reopen the investigation because Shanmugam's phone is set to delete old messages when all other evidence shows no corruption and conflict of interest? As if deleting messages is a crime?
So because he deleted his old messages, it is proof enough there must be something nefarious going on. What happened to presume innocence until proven guilty mentioned in the letter? Should we be investigating any office holders that delete old messages?
The point is deleting old messages is a crime nor grounds for investigation of wrong doing, unless there is a crime committed and there are collaborations between two/more parties. What is the crime and collaborative evidence to support that?
This is more like a desperate attempt to keep the investigation going until we can find something wrong. Is that what we want Singapore to be? A spiteful people that can't accept facts that were clearly presented?
Hi bro, you're so right. All the pap peoples and lhl are lying snakes and they only just CARE about earning $1 million per year only actually.
Poor are Poorer and Rich ARE richer in Singapore, so dun need explain.
Even if they weren’t ministers they would still be richer than you. Actually if they were in private practice, with their qualifications and ability, they would be earning more than what they’re earning now as ministers. Go look up how much eye surgeons and lawyers can earn in private practice.
My perception is they are not the same PAP anymore.
Luckily we have one person one vote.
Time to Re-think and See you in 2025.
Loong's government is already broken.
Rich ministers do such things.
Poor people... ... later exposed they don't take care. Hahahahahahaha... ...
Seriously f-ed governance.
The more units dragged in, the more ministers jumping in... ... the faster the mati... ... ...
RID out... indeed.
How can there be no conflict of interest? So if u want to sell your GCB, why can't u continue to stay in it? If I want to sell my hdb, u mean I have to rent a condo first? It just don't add up. U claim you don't want your savings tie up in an asset, but u able to spend 500k to renovate a black n white. We will NV know the exact details behind the scene. But alot of details don't add up. And he look nervous explaining himself.
I already told you put a,independent panel not from pap😂 you see cleared😂😂 integrity? Talk about integrity act first😂why not least put opposition or independent panel
He didn't inherit his father s genes
All of our ancestors are monkeys. Only yours are from 🐷
From this episode , we can see how Unpopular Sham is . The Attack from all Angles of the Public . Mr Sham has to know Why so many peoples or public Dislikes him . Hope he knows n Improve on his Wellbeing what makes Him today . Wish u well for the future !
Thanks to POFMA
@@wokalot3586 he survived today , now walls have ears !
LKY's pupils & approvced clique
attacks on these 2 Ridout rendezvous neighbours
are attacks on him
Sham is LHL henchman.
Sir, I'm sorry your standards are a failure to your late Father. Sir you have to be strict to your Soldiers, Since you are a Brigade General. Stop saving the integrity of your lost man.
Sungapore politics is also corrupt! Mr Lee's decessed father mudt be troubled in his grave.
All patterns and methods lead back to LKY
- Nassim Jade & Scotts 28
I pity the PM, it looks to me that he was trying to defend the indefensible. Singaporeans are smart and I believe they have made their own conclusions.
Quite true. 账目两边无法齐。而且总理和Party Sec-Gen说是debate，闻Speaker对那个Leong什么说是Clarification，不是debate。哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈~
李显龙真的太嫩了。行动党... ... 李光耀的铁通江山保不住了。
好可惜。老夫当年希望李显龙懂事儿，能快点让新加坡局势反转，结果... ...到了这地步。
完蛋了。
He has to
> Nassim Jade & Scotts 28
Pity? He himself is guilty of this. Whats there to pity this nonsense?
Dear PM Lee,
Title: High standard of integrity PAP sets for itself and potential obstruction of justice by KS.
I am writing this message to bring awareness to the PM with regard to the inconclusiveness of the CPIB investigation into KS and the potential perversion of justice by KS.
It was brought to the attention of many Singaporeans that during the course of CPIB investigation, KS had set his phone(s) to delete relevant information and messages. This was affirmed by KS himself on his ministerial speech on the 3rd of July. As Singapore is a country with rule of law, this is a worrying revelation and brings into question the credibility and incorruptibility of the Singapore government. In Singapore, everyone is presume innocent until proven guilty, thus it is important for the revelation to be investigated thoroughly. I urge the PM to consider reopening the criminal investigation into KS and VB and have proper and transparent investigation process to establish a credible and complete investigation. This would then quell any public speculation and accusation against KS and your administration. Finally, as given in your speech, the PAP sets high standard for itself and is incorruptible. I have full confidence that this government is not only here to pay lip service and would take the necessary and correct action. Thank you very much.
An average and concerned Singapore citizen.
All hands on board , please help our good friend to explain that it is ok, his service to Singapore can cover a multitude of missteps...
Ownself Check Ownself, Ownself Cleared Ownself, Ownself Praise Ownerself All Do Not Hv Anything To Clear Integrity Issue !!!
It is highly likely that the Prime Minister will support those who have been supportive of him, as they form a collective group utilizing the system to their advantage. This situation appears evident and concerning, even from my perspective. Regrettably, Singaporeans have voted for this current state of affairs.
If a public servant reports to TC some issues surely they will not be given priority but only pure fairness? How about every thing else? 😅 I boy boy one. I don't know anything one. Any one knows? Yeah! Singapore does not operate based on Cronyism😅
But, the next you know is GST Hike again in 2024.
Good Luck Singaporeans.
For this issue to be brought up in public clearly shows that the two millionaire ministers suffered a lapse of good judgement.
Vivian suffered more than once by making an unnecessary remark on NCMP Leong Mun Wai on Sept 14, 2021.
"Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan (left) apologised to NCMP Leong Mun Wai for comments he made in Parliament on Sept 14, 2021." - Channel News Asia
To protect PAP, Vivian should have stepped down. IF not, Lee Kuan Yew if alive would have just axed him, and Shanmugam. And the oppos will never have such chance to go this far, and the party, plus his precious reserves will be more... ... at ease.
子曰人至无耻则无敌也... ...
脸皮真的超级厚就是。
老夫个人看法就是。
LKY ?
Nassim Jade & Scotts 28
As expected speech.
Where are the PS and Sylvia Lim Parliamentary Debate speeches?
You know why I said Mandate is Unwise?
Let's assume the CPIB is in the pocket of the PAP. If that is so, then if and when an opposition finally wins the right to govern, how can we believe the CPIB will not be in the pocket of that government?
If we continue on this tack where we constantly question and never trust our authorities, how are we going to maintain a society other than one that is always filled with mistrust?
Today, such societies abound, especially from those that claim to be democratic and allow unhindered free speech. But they count themselves amongst the most dysfunctional. In fact, they are also proving to be the most corrupt. Because a society that is fractured and divisive is actually the most fertile ground for corruption.
Just do your own due diligence instead of just taking others opinions as gospel. Otherwise, don't blame anybody else if we descend into the same pit as those other dysfunctional societies.
Verbal diarrhoea again 🤮
@Danderman888 you are close to pm, can ask him he has anymore $0.11 psf base on land landed house to rent, all my friends and me wish to rent this price
It’s your own personal “PAP-brainwashed” opinion that other more democratic countries are “dysfunctional”, that’s your own opinion after PAP brainwashing, your delusions don’t make it fact, and isn’t reality. What the hell is “conduct your own due diligence”, without limits and restrictions on unchecked unlimited power inherent in one-party or one dominant party-government. Of course the garbage you spew here surely can find its audience. Gullible simpletons like you are dime a dozen in authoritarian countries.
Well said.
@@homehome3071 really? That's what you got from all my effort? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Taukeh, what happened to the $300+ million mishandled by Vivian during YOG? Najib is behind bars while our ministers enjoying supreme lifestyle.
So who's more corrupted?
Majulah Singapura!
Singapore need more opposition like mr singh i mean more not just him
Jar of worms !
When is LHL going to retire?
PM says this issue is not just if there was any legal wrong doings but also if there was any, quote: "quite apart from the law, whether there was ANY misconduct" . Well, let's hear what was investigated and what the findings are. As PM says "when it comes to corruption" we have independent investigations, but that is not the key point here, right? And PM goes on to say, it is up to the PM to judge. Let's hear his take on this, not more and more of that "there was no corruption". If a minister approaches a civil servant for information for personal use, what does that say about misconduct and is a high level of integrity demonstrated?
Another saga ….. for the other countries to see us !
Everything cleared!!!
Yup - I tasked the independent entity to do the review.
Not request, but tasked.
Can we increase the minister wages to least let them own and live in their own property like 80 percent of the citizen. this is the least we can do for our poor ministers
Huh...you still wan to increase..........
As minister to live as an exemplary to be modest and understanding of others having difficulties to get a hdb. This is definitely is greed.
Last Qn from pritam brings it home for me. They didn't follow the correct something something but cos PM accepted than its all ok. Very men in white like attitude
Old boys club.
Common citizen stays in shoebox HDB, while ministers own multiple empty, football field sized landed housing
Not to mention, the price of subsidised shoebox is so inflated compared to those bungalows with massive unused land.
Foreign trolls here blabbing garbage
Why can’t they? They literally commit their lives to serve their nation. I think they deserve to live a good life. Who are we to dictate what they can and cannot do.
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
LTK now lives in a super big house on a big piece of freehold land, you go ask him to live in a shoebox flat and see what he’ll say to you...
I have a question regarding the government's responsibility to provide the best possible lifestyle and care for its citizens. Why is it that the majority of Singaporeans are living in low socioeconomic status (SES) while politicians enjoy a high SES lifestyle? Can you explain the reasons behind this disparity? Also 90 vs 10 seats, how can opposition fight?
one word.... one can cheat on earth but once all the corrupted clowns die...they will answer their corrurpted crimes with their karna.
Obvious without them you need crutches
CPBiB is independent...Yeah Independently owned By Pappigs Government....
eh this pm's response to the ridout road issue is quite questionable lah. he talk about values n integrity but his explanation for ministers renting properties from sla or private landlords leh damn weak lah. just because ministers get clean salary without perks doesn't mean they can do whatever they want without transparency n accountability sia
n then he say cpib will do an independent investigation but wah can we really trust that ah? say their reputation as an anti-corruption outfit guarantees impartiality but who knows if got behind-the-scenes influence or not?
plus he appoint his kaki senior minister tio chiang to do some review. confirm got conflict of interest one lah even though he say tio not involved in the transactions. should've got external body to do the review make sure it's really independent n fair you know?
the pm also say he knows what's proper or not don't need external input. eh that's a bit cocky sia. got to have checks n balances ma to make sure got fair assessment of ministerial conduct
pm's attempt to restore trust n talk about integrity damn not convincing sia. need proper n truly independent investigation not just empty words n assurance. we singaporeans deserve better lah
Nassim Jade & Scotts 28
Can you imagine what if WP’s PItam sing rent a B/W in Seletar camp for $27k. How many times will he be invited for Lim kopi ?
A country of corruption
No wonder so many PMD , Reckless incompetent drivers FTs and CECA stealing our jobs.
LHL you are a disgrace
he will be invited to Lee's kopi 😜🤪😝😛
Can. But just prepare to devaluate state reserves when he is the PM.
Why not?
He can pull in CPIB as well, and even rent at $0 so that state reserves for properties segment can go close to zero... ... Hahahahahahaha... ...
Anything is possible.
And if so, HDB flat should also be 'valued' accordingly... ... especially when you have trees disadvantaging the price and such valuation... ...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ...
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ...
Pitam can also cut off weeds, bring in things to make the camp live-able, just as almost HDB dweller in modern living, and demand valuation to be cut even more since he and HDB dwellers all pay to do so.
Aiya... ... This is rather hilarious a saga.
And to support such a 'leading by example', logically we can expect more sagas and entertainment to come.
CPIB... ... ...
Why drag in an innocent unit?
Nassim Jade
28 Scott's, Conversion of Megatop SIA into flying Hospital complete with nurses doctors and medical equipment.
So a police man committed a crime is the law enforced in the name of law or the police chief?
Our parliament house must be one of those few which witnessed the airings of family disputes, personal choice of residence.... agenda that has nothing to do with state affairs.
Opposition like drama! 😝
@@鲁焚化炉 PAP provide free drama.
@@鲁焚化炉
Not only just oppositions, many foreign trolls from nearby countries also here to stir shixt...jealous of Singapore
@@chenghonggoh4746 Don't be silly! Who cares where they live till your opa made the big deal! Did anyone question why Mr Lee Hsien Loong don't live in Sri Temasek as PM?
@@bell-xk5dd Yes, lots of sour grapes!
Rich people world. Wont understand XD
No need to explain, it is what it is. There is no more trust.
This entertaining Episode makes the world see singapore voters are very intelligent can Discern🤣🤣🥳🥳 i so happy i cannot help but burst into tears of joy
If PM believes something is wrong with these two ministers, he will be in deep trouble.
CASE CLOSED!!!
This is the SOP for LKY approved clique
both LHL and daddy were cleared by Goh Chok Tong
- Nassim Jade & Scotts 28 saga -
Now LHL has to - pay it forward - and clear his "adopted brothers"
Nevermind election is next year. Singaporean know what to do.
PM Lee also said he has full confidence in the PAP candidate selection process but has not explained why it picked Ivan Lim to run as a candidate for Jurong GRC during the last GE (and why it did not defended Ivan when he was criticised by voters). The PAP said it would return to the saga after the GE. When? It is two years since the last GE.
The public is well informed and know what is right from wrong. Save that explanation or clarification. Till we meet again at GE 2025. Arios
H still did not disclose her payroll right?
I wanna make a Birkin outta em eye bags.
I am pretty sure majority us will look at the evidences and facts provided in this investigation and come to a fair conclusion. There are shortfalls but there is no major breeches or corruption. I am happy opposition did contribute to the fact findings although some are just nuisance. A fair minded person would understand ministers are also humans too. They do have desire and as long as they fulfill their dreams without corruption or compromising the country's interest, why not. People that keeps harping on their salaries being high or "ownself check ownself" and therefore anything they do must be corruption or something nefarious; without providing any facts, are just lazy or rationally imbalance.
Where is the Leader of Opposition Air-Time?
Jesus Christ was born in a humble, small but neat house. Till now, the house He house was born is priceless. Amen .
Jesus Christ of Nazareth in the Holy Bible
Was born in a manger aka stable
Not house!!
Which Jesus are you talking about??
@@godsamazinggrace5331
Balik kampong satan
@@godsamazinggrace5331 Bro, please dont argue because i knew everything about Jesus Christ. Amen. Ly gifted son sent by the Lord Jesus Christ to my family. Fyi
Whatever u human call it manger or house or bungalow is not important but the fundamental value of a person is in the heart. Amen
the problem is guide rent is way too low, and if u go sla website, the average psf base on land is 1-3 psf, cant find a 11 cents psf. and even leong took out SM teo sla average rent chart and showed in parliment that vivan initial tenancy was 22% lower than the average rent. this is pap own sla chart!
"Take it to the grave" how? No comments?
PAP knnbcjb got CECA
Ownself check ownself - doesn’t work anymore, cos TRUST is lost. Minister for Law KNOWS what is “Conflict of Interest”. CPIB should jus follow the $$$$. Everyone so nervous
Singaporeans must be enjoying their Swiss standard of living by now !
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over my career i've seen many senior managers eventually demise if they are not impartial towards their subordinates. Luckily this government is impartial and have good integrity. 👍
Yes , so much Integrity that it’s difficult to ignore the unmistakable pattern of many LKY Trusted Generals either Distancing or Declining High Office Appointments after LKY passed … Coincidence or KARMA?
Got Minister rent B&W when LKY is alive? Just curious.
LKY ?
> Nassim Jade & Scotts 28
@@GeeWhizzzz wah. So now I have the numbers for Toto - 38, 26, 31 and 28. Need two more
What were the breaches in procedures found? Show us the paper trail!
What was in the report and investigation? Show
Did they use their authority in the bidding when they outsourced the process? What’s the evidence and where are witnesses! Bring them out
The ministers departments, specifically law, to exclude possibility of conflict of interest in this investigation itself.
The relevant department - land authority - what did they say? Did they provide evidence for one conclusion or the other?
When taken to CPIB, what was their conclusion? Did they provide evidence and conclude on a different verdict?
Taken to Teo Chee Hean, also now what’s his investigations verdict.
If it’s not concluded they did wrong doing, time for another investigation.
If still conclude no foul play - no - investigate from a different independent entity until we find something.
Still no? No condemnation? All the investigations so far are one sided for the PAP. Do another investigation until we find them out as criminals and send them to jail. Tomorrow, no evidence, continue next month. Next month no evidence, try again and again within the year.
One year no evidence? No! Every year we must check if the ridout saga has any paper trail or witnesses and first person accounts that there was wrong doing.
If we don’t find out by then, we aren’t trying hard enough.
This is totally reasonable!
Put more money and time into this. We must take them down! Every year must try!
Each and every not guilty investigation are lies and rigged.
The one investigation that says they’re guilty - that will be the right one!
I Respect those who tells the Truth!
No matter how hard and difficult it is.
Integrity is Everything n Terbaik 👍
Ownself investigate ownself
Ownself exculpate ownself.
More economical that way !
Well done !
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Minister Shan said in parliment he rented his Queen Astrid gcb so that he can sell his house. but cant he stay in it and sell and he went to rent the biggest gcb in SG!
Trust on PAP is gone.
Ok. Would he have said otherwise? 😂