@@Epictronics1 I still have an old IBM IntelliStation Z Pro with WinNT. I have Softimage animation software on it as I animated for HB back in late 90s. Been meaning to revive it and do some hobby work, but life keeps me too busy do such work. I enjoy your channel, one of the best on YT.👍
awesome that way make it faster for me sent you more picture i just happen grab other set of pc parts from my sheld i recogine something about apg gpu nivida 7600 is perfect for that mobo
I absolutely love your choice of colour. If the green was a bit darker, more metallic British racing green, it'd be my favourite colour. Your case looks amazing
@@Epictronics1 Absolutely. I've contacted the UK vendor to see if they might have a copy the invoice so I an double check what else it had fitted. Definitely some sort of Soundblaster as I managed to cross connect the DMA channels between that and the IDE controller and it made for an effective disk wiping method.
I had this system back in the day. I bought it thinking it was going to be crazy fast... not so much to be honest. Applications were not optimized to be multicore in those days. Still, nice system.
Had almost the same comp back in late 1990s, but using a gigabyte board with 2 coppermines, which i still have lying around somewhere. Was great to watch, great work!
@@grizredford8407 I think they are still in existence but doing different things. My first PC back in mid-2000 was a hand-me-down from my uncle, and was a PC Chips M571 3.2(A) board, with no AGP and only a Cyrix CPU so it was very underpowered for anything but office and internet duties.
Yes! I had one for my Athlon 1.4ghz. I forget what board it was. It ran great for many years with small upgrades along the way. But it too died from bad caps.
I have no experience running this board with bad caps but some people claim that bad caps can damage the voltage regulators on these boards. I'd recap it just in case
Ive been slowly collecting parts for my brothers abit bp6 dual tualatin. He took his own life many years ago now. Ive been getting back into retro, and was thinking of building out his setup.
I had to comment on how absolutely immaculate that painting job is. Whatever the angle, no overspray whatsoever, as good as factory. How did you manage to do that? Would love to know for future projects. Could you please tell me what spray paint did you use? Did you apply a clear coat after to protect it? If yes, what did you use? Thanks a lot, awesome job!
Thank you. I used to have a "proper" paint booth. Unfortunately, I had to store it away because my garage is now my YT studio. I will make a video at some point about respraying PC stuff when I have a paint booth again. As it is now, I just use spray cans in the garden and hope for the best
Love the case and colour, great job. Was very happy to see the board come to life I've a soft spot for ABIT my first ever build was a BM6. I threw this machine away fully working about 10 years ago, breaks my heart now! Was an overclocking beast!
It is very satisfactory when you repair a dead motherboard or VGA. I bought a few tools to help but I really want to get a de-soldering gun and one of those microscope with LCD devices (eye sight getting bad)
You have pretty good soldering skills with those surface mount components. I never really gave it much thought... preheat the board with a heat gun to solder & unsolder through hole components in those nasty, mean, uncooperative ground plains. Thanks for the tip. I probably won't use it but, if I do.... I really enjoyed watching this. Much better than I thought it would be. WE NEED PART 2 !
This looks great! Had a dual slot 1 build back in the late 90's with a Tyan motherboard, but your build would have smoked it. The color is a great touch. Lots of memories of colored cases from that time. Now everything is what, just black?
@@Epictronics1 dont buy "hardware store clear coat" or paint...whatever stuff you put on top of the case for many days will eventually get stuck on the paint or clear... thats especially true for monitors sitting on top of desktop cases.....instead, buy clear coat from an automotive paint store ...most stores also make custom spray cans of whatever colour you choose or they can match colours from any object or part you bring to them......the paint is not expensive cuz its designed for professional profit driven use and it is VASTLY superior to consumer style rattle cans...if on your country they dont want to sell you paint just make frinds with an automotive painter and use his account to buy the paint and supplies...he will be thankfull (more expenses on his account), you will have the paints and perhaps a discount, everybody will be happy..... Overhere in Portugal prices are about 8 to 12€ for a can of custom paint, primer, filler primer or clear.... for you to get an idea, chinese store cans cost 2 to 3€ but they are worthless trash, and higher grade hardware store cans cost from 6 to 10€. best cost quality is really automotive grade paints...even sandpaper and supplies are vastly superior
This is awesome! The whole build brings back a lot of memories for me! Back in those days I used the Antec version of the same case from the start of the Pentium 3 all through the Athlon XP days. For the P3 I also used one of those Golden Orb coolers and it seemed to do a good job for the price. That case served me well for almost a decade of continuous use! Funny enough just yesterday I pulled the now empty old case out of storage. I'm planning on using it as a DAS with 12-16 HDD's to start with. I just need to figure out a good way to mount the SAS expander & PSU breakout board I will be using higher up near the PSU along with probably 2 extra HDD cages on the bottom. :)
My first sefl built PC was a P4 2.6 with RAMBUS memory and a top tier AMD GPU, all in an Abit board. My power supply was a generic delta I trhink. Abit motherboards were better than Asus, MSI, Intel, or anyone back then. Love your work!
It is quite normal that boards from this era have caps from different manufacturers. I just recently recapped EpoX 8rga+ Socket A board low ESR VRM caps, and it had few Sanyo’s (left those on board) and crappy GSC caps which I replaced. In addition to these, it has bunch of TEAPO general use filter caps. These multilayered board can be tricky to work with. I did the decap like this this: I soldered big blobs of fresh solder on the legs so that gun has a large surface area of melting solder, added flux and with 375C and around 10 sec from desoldering gun was enough.
You might want to check the wayback machine to see if it's cached some details about your original case. If you bought it from an online computer store, they might've cached the page from around the time you bought it. I managed to find out some details about computer parts from my old PCs by looking up the computer stores I used to buy from. I lost access to my old email account for the invoice they emailed when I purchased it, but I could remember around the time I bought the parts, so I just looked up the sites on the wayback machine and could browse the categories until I found the parts that jogged my memory. The bonus is that it also shows about how much I would've spent on the system at the time, although prices fluctuated pretty frequently so it's not 100% accurate, and I'd often wait a couple of weeks until I found parts on special, which the wayback machine might not manage to catch.
Unfortunately it was a special order through my dayjob. I don't remember what supplier we used to order the case. I'll do some thinking, maybe I'll remember
I found, that using "greasy" flux (cream??) works great, to fix the cap in place, before you add any solder. Use ceramic tweezer to gently push them onto the board while applying using the iron with some fresh solder on the tip.
oh wow. i have a case just like that . its green as well . got it at a flea market. i have a old quad core dell motherboard in it. this takes me back thank you for posting this.
of course it was just a core 2 duo. i upgraded it and put windows 10 on it. i just use it to browse youtube at night. also looking forward to your next video .
@@Epictronics1 It already did that. For over 20 years. But I have to say it's really old now. The i7 4770k that's now inside it probably stays in there. It was a great case. I also have beQuiet foam for noise reduction in it. A product of its time.
@@Epictronics1 I've bought again many things from my electronic past, both for computing and for music production. Also buying the things I could not afford back then in the early 1990s. However I got lucky with a lot of this, because since 2015/16 the used market has gone nuts, and many things now cost up to 5x more than a few years ago!
That painted case looks surprisingly good. I would probably choose a dark color for the sheet metal parts to create a two-tone look but of course it's not my build. It probably looks a bit different in person.
I came here to say exactly this. Mine is somehow missing the floppy cage and two HDD cages and I've been looking for replacements but searching for Antec as mine was branded wasn't coming up with much. Armed with new information, I'm going to try and complete that case again.
Electrolytic caps, who'd have thought. Even the when the boards were new these gave trouble, abit sent me some under warranty to fix my BP6 back in the day
Now, let's pause to reflect and realize this is not just watching entertainment and admire what a good job and what kind of effort is going into this build.
Really enjoyed the video. With Vaseline being petroleum based I would be a little worried about it damaging the paint. Maybe try a silicone based grease instead? Just a thought.
If the part is faulty and you just want to get rid, don't just use *some* solder, use enough that the ends are bridged and you can heat them both via the same metal blob
You're trying to solder to a heatsink Yeah, I recommend using a hot air station at low temperature (100°C, maybe 150°C) for preheating. That helps a bit against the heatsinking for the CPU VRM of the boards...
I personally think, the case looks better with the tilting/rotating feet. Love the colour, though. I personally had one in blue, of course with the cutout and acrylic window on the side panel. And I added an acrylic panel with engraving and LED highlights to the door (cut out the centre thingy).
I had a case similar to that one but it was made by antec, and it had 2 usb 1 firewire ports in the front just below the door with a little flap and a windowed side panel. I do miss being able to pop in the fans with ease because of the brackets that the case had but 80mm fans were very loud and even with many of them my pc struggled to stay cool. Still for my first pc it was a beast back then.
The always on floppy drive LED is usually caused by the ribbon cable being the wrong way round. The HDD corruption on the primary IDE channel could be because your cable is too long. Try using a shorter cable. It must an 80 wire cable.
Yes, I tied with an older FDD cable without the key notch and the FDD is now working. I have tried with a shorter 80-wire HDD cable but no luck so far. Also tried with a 2-second HDD delay in the BIOS
Back in this period I had a batch of Sony branded floppy drives that had the floppy cable connector reversed. I had to cut off the tab and insert it backwards or the drive would do exactly the same thing yours does.
Dude! That was one of the faults! I tried a cable backwards without a tab and it would boot ones. It wouldn't boot the second time so we have more faults but this was definitely one of the issues. Thanks!
Two 133MHz FSB 1Ghz PIII Coppermines are good in the beginning, but for dual S370 CPU project, the creme de la creme version are two 1,4GHz Pentium III Tualatins!
A persistent FFD light and drive fail is normally an inverted cable. However your board has other problems 🙁. Perhaps use a PCI controller card if you can’t find a fix. Best of luck.
I actually used a PCI controller back in the day because I didn't like the onboard RAID. I don't remember why. For the hell of it, I'll try to fix this onboard controller anyway
@@Epictronics1did you try to invert the fdd cable? I've always remembered it had to be "red with pin 1 or opposites" if that makes any sense to you and from the video it does seem to be a bad data cable orientation
@@HugoFaria-AZ Yes, I did after I uploaded the video. I used an older cable without the plastic tabs and reversed the cable. It works now but only occasionally.
I have VP6 with 2x 1GHz PIII, 768 MB RAM, SB Audigy 2 ZS, FX5900 + VooDoo2 8MB. I can advise you to triple check BIOS settings for floppy and for IDE - it's a bit unintuitive with some additional options, which you may have accidently turned on (such as A: and B: drives swap, which caused errors in single floppy drive configuration), also IDE HDD autodetection is also a bit wonky (you may increase initial IDE timeout if HDD is too slow for autodetect, built in RAID is a bit slower so it's more stable). Btw. if you're using AGP in 4x mode, you may need to set AGP driving value manually (otherwise it's unstable).
I also had one of these back in the day (I think, or perhaps it was a BP6). I sold it but I did recently find my old Abit BH6 in my late father-in-law's attic along with my old AWE32
I used to have a BP6 system with two Celeron 433's. I would love to recreate that system but the prices of the BP6 on eBay are insane. So that won't be happening. 😛
I recently re-built a dual-Celeron BP6 modeled after one I had back in the day. It dual-boots BeOS and Linux - the two reasons I bought a dual-CPU board back then, when everybody was still running Windows 98/ME, which didn’t support SMP. My old case was an In-Win workhorse that we used to sell at the computer store I worked for, but I decided to put the rebuild in an Antec case that is similar to this one. Same design language, just a little smaller. :-). I decided to skip the dual Danger Den CPU water blocks… haha The one problem I have is the RAID controller. If I load the kernel module in Linux, it tries to detect the drives, then hangs solid. I tried several different kernel versions, and no luck. Curious to see what happens in part 2. It might give me some ideas. In the meantime, I don’t really _need_ the extra IDE channels, so I just disabled the controller.
@@nickwallette6201 back in the days I used to manually compile the kernel and modify the HPT366 driver beforehand. It might be possible to download/compile the driver as a separate kernel module. We (me and some friend all had the BP6) used to change it to ATA44 which technically doesn't exist but it worked. When you look in the code it's fairly obvious what needs to be changed. The HPT366 is very unstable on the BP6. You could also change it to ATA33 but at 66 it rarely works. Neither did it work properly in Windows 2000.
Yes it is, its heavy but robust, has plenty of space, and it has rails for 3.5" bays. A friend gave it to me, and i changed the case of my main computer to this because it was far better than what i had. My old pentium 4 640 is still there. And I did some interesting experiments taking advantage of the space, like mounting two power supplies inside to power a radeon 3870x2.
I am having a very similar problem with my 486DX machine. The IDE sockets quit working and the ISA bus is dead too. The machine has three 32bit PCI slots so I was able to boot up its hard drive using a Promise Technology 66 controller card inserted into one of the PCI slots with a PCI video card. I'm glad I have that option, but that leaves the CD ROM dead in the water.
@@T3hBeowulf I was hoping for that too. Unfortunately, flashing the BIOS didn't help. I have now also found that the USB isn't working. At least not with WMe
I might be in the same boat as you, regarding the failing IDE controller. In my case (no pun intended), it's an MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (Via KT333+8233A) but the symptoms are similar. Regarding the FDC, I find it weird that it's also behaving given that it is integrated in the Super IO, not in the southbridge or the northbridge... I'm looking forward to watching your next video!
The lady in the shop actually had a funny look when I put these cans on the counter. I was a bit worried about what to say if she asked me what I was up to haha
@@glenndoiron9317 yeah but they look cool! For a while I got on a dual cpu building kick mostly on the old x58 platform… not great for gaming but two cpus just looks badass!
In order, to find an old product you can not remember the name or model too, photograph the item from your video sauce use Google lense to scan, then hit Google images go from there.
At 30.08 it sure looks to me like the floppy cable is the wrong way round. Number 1 wire should be at the opposite side that any IDE seems to have it. That's assuming Your floppy drive's connector is somehow not the opposite way round to normal. Anyway very enjoyable video. Love that Sparkly green paint.
This reminds me of a system that I have. GA-6VTXD with dual 1.4 Tualatin PIII and 3GB of PC133 Crucial Reg ECC ram (supposed to only support 2GB). Thanks for the videos.
There's something else with old cases. Maybe it's their «form follows function» vision: It's a computer case, and you should be comfortable working on it. I've lost my taste for big towers, but that one looks really interesting, and the paint job is top notch. As for the motherboard, a half-dead southbridge looks difficult to diagnose. Do you plan to change the chip entirely?
I have two or three Dual-Slot-1 (Slot-A) motherboards, one of them will only go up to P3-550, one is P2-only, and the last one will take 2x P3-1133mhz cpus. Sadly all three of these boards are essentially "too fast" and/or "too new" for the stuff I usually like playing around with. (I have matching P2-300s, matching P3-550s, and matching P3-850s) I *_had_* a slightly newer dual-slot-1 motherboard that I had running stable with 2x P3-1133mhz CPUs that I built for a roomie to use to play FinalFantasy-11 Online WAAY back in the day, think the video card in it was something like a GF4ti-4600 or something similar.. FFXI didn't run /great/, but since he was mooching off me, playing for free, and even got ME to pay his monthly subscription -- I think he got more than enough. Edit: Twat moved out one night after I'd been up late working on my boat, stole my xbox, ps2, about 40 games AND MY CAT that I'd had for like 6 years, got it at ~4wks old and had to bottle feed it. I'd have murdered that guy with a smile on my face had I ever found him after that. That cat was my PTSD-therapy animal after the Army screwed me up pretty bad.. cat slept against my chest with his head under my chin, every night.. ~18 years later and I STILL miss him profoundly.
I think capacitor plague was part of what killed off abit..... around that time I had a kt7a-raid; other than being slightly buggered from the box it was alright......
I forget exactly but I think was nichicon had a bad series or 2 around that era that unfortunately they had been using quite a bit..... effected a lot of their boards..... ** being sued over bad caps is on their wiki... it's worth noting this was a bad era for caps in general
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Had I known someone was going to do this, I would had sent you the VP6 I recycled with the land fill. Though I still have both CPUs.
@@swagedelic Yeah, I made the same mistake with my original board. Thank god for eBay!
@@Epictronics1 I still have an old IBM IntelliStation Z Pro with WinNT. I have Softimage animation software on it as I animated for HB back in late 90s. Been meaning to revive it and do some hobby work, but life keeps me too busy do such work. I enjoy your channel, one of the best on YT.👍
@@swagedelic Thank you. I hope you find the time eventually to enjoy your IBM
awesome that way make it faster for me sent you more picture i just happen grab other set of pc parts from my sheld i recogine something about apg gpu nivida 7600 is perfect for that mobo
I love the design choice to put delicate tiny SMD components _inside_ the heatsink clip mechanism scraping zone.
Someone wasn't thinking at all
@@Epictronics1 That almost seems like sabotage! Haha
@@nickwallette6201 I wonder how many of these boards are running out there without those caps...
I loved my ABIT board back in the day. It's such a shame the company destroyed itself.
R.I.P ABIT. At least I'll keep this board alive
They made rock solid boards. I built many machines on ABIT boards
Hell yeah the first PC I built had an NF7-S, Athlon 2500+.
ABIT came back with an lga1700 board
I absolutely love your choice of colour. If the green was a bit darker, more metallic British racing green, it'd be my favourite colour. Your case looks amazing
Thanks! I'm a big fan of BRG too but this fits well :)
This has just given me flashbacks for my Abit based machine which used a Abit BX6 motherboard 😀
Good times, when ABIT ruled the world : )
@@Epictronics1 Absolutely. I've contacted the UK vendor to see if they might have a copy the invoice so I an double check what else it had fitted. Definitely some sort of Soundblaster as I managed to cross connect the DMA channels between that and the IDE controller and it made for an effective disk wiping method.
Still got one of these, and a BP6 up in the loft. Happy days...
You're in for a treat, get your soldering gear out
Love the color, really appropriate for the ABIT board!
I had this system back in the day. I bought it thinking it was going to be crazy fast... not so much to be honest. Applications were not optimized to be multicore in those days. Still, nice system.
I loved those Chieftec Dragons. In fact, I still have two in opperation, though with more modern systems inside.
Had almost the same comp back in late 1990s, but using a gigabyte board with 2 coppermines, which i still have lying around somewhere. Was great to watch, great work!
Thanks!
Ah ABIT. Legendary board maker. Shame they disappeared. This looks so cool!
Thanks. Great nostalgia, when ABIT ruled the world :)
Same as QDI, Soyo, DFI, ECS etc. I remember seeing many different concepts back in those days while now everything is more or less the same.
Whatever happened to PC chips.
@@grizredford8407 I think they are still in existence but doing different things. My first PC back in mid-2000 was a hand-me-down from my uncle, and was a PC Chips M571 3.2(A) board, with no AGP and only a Cyrix CPU so it was very underpowered for anything but office and internet duties.
Yes! I had one for my Athlon 1.4ghz. I forget what board it was. It ran great for many years with small upgrades along the way. But it too died from bad caps.
I still have my VP6, you're making me worried I might need to recap it before I run it again. I'll cross that bridge when I need to.
I have no experience running this board with bad caps but some people claim that bad caps can damage the voltage regulators on these boards. I'd recap it just in case
Ive been slowly collecting parts for my brothers abit bp6 dual tualatin. He took his own life many years ago now. Ive been getting back into retro, and was thinking of building out his setup.
I must be a hoarder, I still have my original cheiftech dragon case in silver lol it housed many builds over the years.
Hold on to it!
I had to comment on how absolutely immaculate that painting job is. Whatever the angle, no overspray whatsoever, as good as factory. How did you manage to do that? Would love to know for future projects. Could you please tell me what spray paint did you use? Did you apply a clear coat after to protect it? If yes, what did you use? Thanks a lot, awesome job!
Thank you. I used to have a "proper" paint booth. Unfortunately, I had to store it away because my garage is now my YT studio. I will make a video at some point about respraying PC stuff when I have a paint booth again. As it is now, I just use spray cans in the garden and hope for the best
Love the case and colour, great job. Was very happy to see the board come to life I've a soft spot for ABIT my first ever build was a BM6. I threw this machine away fully working about 10 years ago, breaks my heart now! Was an overclocking beast!
We all made the same mistake. Just grab the savings for your kid's education and go on eBay ;)
Awesome job! So glad you were able to get your VP6 running again! (Thanks for the shout out)
Thanks for sorting out the caps!
First dual proc pc I built was on a VP6. Thanks for the memories.
I had a VP6 back when, might still have one of my modified bios rom's in a backup.
That's great, my BIOS might be causing this issue
It is very satisfactory when you repair a dead motherboard or VGA. I bought a few tools to help but I really want to get a de-soldering gun and one of those microscope with LCD devices (eye sight getting bad)
You have pretty good soldering skills with those surface mount components. I never really gave it much thought... preheat the board with a heat gun to solder & unsolder through hole components in those nasty, mean, uncooperative ground plains. Thanks for the tip. I probably won't use it but, if I do.... I really enjoyed watching this. Much better than I thought it would be. WE NEED PART 2 !
There will definitely be a part 2 in about two weeks. I need to order some parts. Thanks!
I really need a case like yours for my dual P3.. just perfect!
Thank god for eBay :)
That case you used in the video was also sold by Antec and Raidmax, and manufactured by Chenming.
This looks great! Had a dual slot 1 build back in the late 90's with a Tyan motherboard, but your build would have smoked it. The color is a great touch. Lots of memories of colored cases from that time. Now everything is what, just black?
Thanks!
Great video. You could consider doing clear coat over the top of that green to protect it and bring out the sparkles
I think I might! Thanks
@@Epictronics1 dont buy "hardware store clear coat" or paint...whatever stuff you put on top of the case for many days will eventually get stuck on the paint or clear... thats especially true for monitors sitting on top of desktop cases.....instead, buy clear coat from an automotive paint store ...most stores also make custom spray cans of whatever colour you choose or they can match colours from any object or part you bring to them......the paint is not expensive cuz its designed for professional profit driven use and it is VASTLY superior to consumer style rattle cans...if on your country they dont want to sell you paint just make frinds with an automotive painter and use his account to buy the paint and supplies...he will be thankfull (more expenses on his account), you will have the paints and perhaps a discount, everybody will be happy..... Overhere in Portugal prices are about 8 to 12€ for a can of custom paint, primer, filler primer or clear.... for you to get an idea, chinese store cans cost 2 to 3€ but they are worthless trash, and higher grade hardware store cans cost from 6 to 10€. best cost quality is really automotive grade paints...even sandpaper and supplies are vastly superior
@@MrHBSoftware When I don't have access to a proper paint booth, I use SprayMax 2k. Great stuff
This is awesome! The whole build brings back a lot of memories for me!
Back in those days I used the Antec version of the same case from the start of the Pentium 3 all through the Athlon XP days. For the P3 I also used one of those Golden Orb coolers and it seemed to do a good job for the price. That case served me well for almost a decade of continuous use!
Funny enough just yesterday I pulled the now empty old case out of storage. I'm planning on using it as a DAS with 12-16 HDD's to start with. I just need to figure out a good way to mount the SAS expander & PSU breakout board I will be using higher up near the PSU along with probably 2 extra HDD cages on the bottom. :)
Thanks, Sounds like a fun project :) good luck!
This makes me really want to get a modern case and custom paint it.
Go for it!
My first sefl built PC was a P4 2.6 with RAMBUS memory and a top tier AMD GPU, all in an Abit board. My power supply was a generic delta I trhink. Abit motherboards were better than Asus, MSI, Intel, or anyone back then. Love your work!
Thank you!
That RAMBUS memory was pretty rare, how did you end up with that?
Cheiftec dragon cases! Heck, I had a few of those for my SETI farm way back when! Black, silver, blue & purple IIRR
It is quite normal that boards from this era have caps from different manufacturers. I just recently recapped EpoX 8rga+ Socket A board low ESR VRM caps, and it had few Sanyo’s (left those on board) and crappy GSC caps which I replaced. In addition to these, it has bunch of TEAPO general use filter caps. These multilayered board can be tricky to work with. I did the decap like this this: I soldered big blobs of fresh solder on the legs so that gun has a large surface area of melting solder, added flux and with 375C and around 10 sec from desoldering gun was enough.
You might want to check the wayback machine to see if it's cached some details about your original case. If you bought it from an online computer store, they might've cached the page from around the time you bought it. I managed to find out some details about computer parts from my old PCs by looking up the computer stores I used to buy from. I lost access to my old email account for the invoice they emailed when I purchased it, but I could remember around the time I bought the parts, so I just looked up the sites on the wayback machine and could browse the categories until I found the parts that jogged my memory. The bonus is that it also shows about how much I would've spent on the system at the time, although prices fluctuated pretty frequently so it's not 100% accurate, and I'd often wait a couple of weeks until I found parts on special, which the wayback machine might not manage to catch.
Unfortunately it was a special order through my dayjob. I don't remember what supplier we used to order the case. I'll do some thinking, maybe I'll remember
Great looking tower. Like a pearly green Testarossa.
Soon, it will be just as fast too ;)
You did a fabulous job painting the case! I probably would have put screws in the place of the pop rivets you removed.
Thanks!
Oh wow - my Dad and I went through five or six of the 30 or 60 GB (Can’t fully recall) DeskStar HDD’s. I had forgotten about that lol
Yes! Recreating my year 2000 abit kt-7 raid has been my long term goal!
I had everything from broken athlon from overclocking, broken raid 0 from power loss, and ofc broken caps
@@JohnSmith-iu8cj Sounds like a good start ;)
The PC case paint job is magnificent! It's tempting me to paint my own PC case too now. :D
Go for it :)
I found, that using "greasy" flux (cream??) works great, to fix the cap in place, before you add any solder. Use ceramic tweezer to gently push them onto the board while applying using the iron with some fresh solder on the tip.
I was just thinking this while I did the edit! I'll give it a try on the next project
oh wow. i have a case just like that . its green as well . got it at a flea market. i have a old quad core dell motherboard in it. this takes me back thank you for posting this.
of course it was just a core 2 duo. i upgraded it and put windows 10 on it. i just use it to browse youtube at night. also looking forward to your next video .
@@jasehusky Thanks :)
Awesome video and repair, love the iconic dragon case in that color! So much Nostalgia! ☺❤
Thanks
I still use the Chieftec Dragon case for my PC. Since years. It's a really sturdy case. Although it's a little bit heavy.
That's awesome. It will probably outlast many new high-end cases
@@Epictronics1 It already did that. For over 20 years. But I have to say it's really old now. The i7 4770k that's now inside it probably stays in there. It was a great case. I also have beQuiet foam for noise reduction in it. A product of its time.
I had one of the VP6 boards. Don't remember what CPUs I used on it though.
I'm not gonna lie, I love purple but that green looks amazing!
Love that GREEN color!
I LOVE these kind of videos! I've been doing the same here, and it's so satisfying ❤ I know the feeling of recreating the past with accurate parts
Nostalgia is weird and wonderful :)
@@Epictronics1 I've bought again many things from my electronic past, both for computing and for music production. Also buying the things I could not afford back then in the early 1990s. However I got lucky with a lot of this, because since 2015/16 the used market has gone nuts, and many things now cost up to 5x more than a few years ago!
@@EgoShredder Yeah, it's a bit sad. vintage electronics should be affordable!
I wish all my dead boards were as "easy" to repair as this one... pretty enjoyable video.
Thanks :)
He makes it look easy, but it's a lot of experience and skill!
That painted case looks surprisingly good. I would probably choose a dark color for the sheet metal parts to create a two-tone look but of course it's not my build. It probably looks a bit different in person.
It does yes, Looks crazy lol
Today I learned that Antec and Chieftain cases were both made by Casetech. I was so confused since I have an Antec case VERY similar to this one :)
I came here to say exactly this. Mine is somehow missing the floppy cage and two HDD cages and I've been looking for replacements but searching for Antec as mine was branded wasn't coming up with much. Armed with new information, I'm going to try and complete that case again.
Electrolytic caps, who'd have thought. Even the when the boards were new these gave trouble, abit sent me some under warranty to fix my BP6 back in the day
You are right! Awesome case.
I still have three of those cases. Legends. Two of Soho fileserver versions that are steel and the chieftec ripoff that was aluminum
Now, let's pause to reflect and realize this is not just watching entertainment and admire what a good job and what kind of effort is going into this build.
Thank you :)
Really enjoyed the video.
With Vaseline being petroleum based I would be a little worried about it damaging the paint. Maybe try a silicone based grease instead? Just a thought.
Thanks! Oh, I thought Vaseline was kind on the plastics. That's why I use it for plastic parts.
I don't think I ever saw a VP6 back in the day! must have been way out of our budget, saw plenty of BP6 machines though.
Yeah, It's sort of the BP6's big brother. I think it got a little overlooked because of the launch of the P4
Ohhhhhh those coolers look amazing! I have got to try and get my hands on one of those!
They pop up on ebay occasionally. Good luck!
If the part is faulty and you just want to get rid, don't just use *some* solder, use enough that the ends are bridged and you can heat them both via the same metal blob
Still love the Chieftec Dragon, I still have one of my old ones. But I had a couple that I recycled that I regret getting rid of.
This is my first Chieftec Dragon but I can tell right away why it was so popular. Great case
This is truly Epic, subscribed!
Thanks :)
You're trying to solder to a heatsink
Yeah, I recommend using a hot air station at low temperature (100°C, maybe 150°C) for preheating.
That helps a bit against the heatsinking for the CPU VRM of the boards...
fantastic resuscitation!
Thanks!
OMG this is the coolest retro pc ever!!! I LOVE IT!!! That green is so sharp!
Thanks :)
@@Epictronics1 I'm totally jeallous! lol
I personally think, the case looks better with the tilting/rotating feet.
Love the colour, though. I personally had one in blue, of course with the cutout and acrylic window on the side panel. And I added an acrylic panel with engraving and LED highlights to the door (cut out the centre thingy).
I'm actually considering doing some LED mods to this project :)
@@Epictronics1 : I also forgot about the cold cathode lamps... ah yes... we're not getting younger, are we.
@@bikkiikun :)
I had a case similar to that one but it was made by antec, and it had 2 usb 1 firewire ports in the front just below the door with a little flap and a windowed side panel. I do miss being able to pop in the fans with ease because of the brackets that the case had but 80mm fans were very loud and even with many of them my pc struggled to stay cool. Still for my first pc it was a beast back then.
yeah, 80mm fans is definitely the weak point with this case
That color gives SG vibes.
Now that you mention it! Hmm... Maybe, I should do an SG-inspired build...
The always on floppy drive LED is usually caused by the ribbon cable being the wrong way round. The HDD corruption on the primary IDE channel could be because your cable is too long. Try using a shorter cable. It must an 80 wire cable.
Also try limiting the speed to 66 or 33Mbps, not 133.
Yes, I tied with an older FDD cable without the key notch and the FDD is now working. I have tried with a shorter 80-wire HDD cable but no luck so far. Also tried with a 2-second HDD delay in the BIOS
@@simontay4851 I'll see if there is such a setting in BIOS
I had one of these with two p3 1.4ghz Tualatin cpus... used an ATI 9700 all in wonder... kicked ass..
Nice setup :)
I had a BP6 with two Celeron 466's installed in it.
Back in this period I had a batch of Sony branded floppy drives that had the floppy cable connector reversed. I had to cut off the tab and insert it backwards or the drive would do exactly the same thing yours does.
Dude! That was one of the faults! I tried a cable backwards without a tab and it would boot ones. It wouldn't boot the second time so we have more faults but this was definitely one of the issues. Thanks!
The Tower/Case is from Antec
I stand corrected, thanks
I think the OEM was either Chenming or Chembro. Antec, Thermaltake and others sold their cases
Two 133MHz FSB 1Ghz PIII Coppermines are good in the beginning, but for dual S370 CPU project, the creme de la creme version are two 1,4GHz Pentium III Tualatins!
Coming soon on this channel...
This thing looks amazing!
I have a serious fetish for the 1080 style cases.
A persistent FFD light and drive fail is normally an inverted cable. However your board has other problems 🙁. Perhaps use a PCI controller card if you can’t find a fix. Best of luck.
I actually used a PCI controller back in the day because I didn't like the onboard RAID. I don't remember why. For the hell of it, I'll try to fix this onboard controller anyway
@@Epictronics1did you try to invert the fdd cable? I've always remembered it had to be "red with pin 1 or opposites" if that makes any sense to you and from the video it does seem to be a bad data cable orientation
@@HugoFaria-AZ Yes, I did after I uploaded the video. I used an older cable without the plastic tabs and reversed the cable. It works now but only occasionally.
Nice, we will fix so we can see a green metallic Zip drive ;)
Thanks for the DeathStar! I think we have found the perfect resting place for it :)
I have VP6 with 2x 1GHz PIII, 768 MB RAM, SB Audigy 2 ZS, FX5900 + VooDoo2 8MB.
I can advise you to triple check BIOS settings for floppy and for IDE - it's a bit unintuitive with some additional options, which you may have accidently turned on (such as A: and B: drives swap, which caused errors in single floppy drive configuration), also IDE HDD autodetection is also a bit wonky (you may increase initial IDE timeout if HDD is too slow for autodetect, built in RAID is a bit slower so it's more stable).
Btw. if you're using AGP in 4x mode, you may need to set AGP driving value manually (otherwise it's unstable).
Thanks, that's very useful to know. I'm doing some tests as I write this. The FDD is now working :)
I also had one of these back in the day (I think, or perhaps it was a BP6). I sold it but I did recently find my old Abit BH6 in my late father-in-law's attic along with my old AWE32
The BP6 is a nice board too
I remember having a pair of those cases... they were kind of nice😊
I used to have a BP6 system with two Celeron 433's. I would love to recreate that system but the prices of the BP6 on eBay are insane. So that won't be happening. 😛
Yeah, it's too bad they are pricy. I'd love to have a BP6 too
I recently re-built a dual-Celeron BP6 modeled after one I had back in the day. It dual-boots BeOS and Linux - the two reasons I bought a dual-CPU board back then, when everybody was still running Windows 98/ME, which didn’t support SMP. My old case was an In-Win workhorse that we used to sell at the computer store I worked for, but I decided to put the rebuild in an Antec case that is similar to this one. Same design language, just a little smaller. :-). I decided to skip the dual Danger Den CPU water blocks… haha
The one problem I have is the RAID controller. If I load the kernel module in Linux, it tries to detect the drives, then hangs solid. I tried several different kernel versions, and no luck. Curious to see what happens in part 2. It might give me some ideas. In the meantime, I don’t really _need_ the extra IDE channels, so I just disabled the controller.
@@nickwallette6201 back in the days I used to manually compile the kernel and modify the HPT366 driver beforehand. It might be possible to download/compile the driver as a separate kernel module. We (me and some friend all had the BP6) used to change it to ATA44 which technically doesn't exist but it worked. When you look in the code it's fairly obvious what needs to be changed. The HPT366 is very unstable on the BP6. You could also change it to ATA33 but at 66 it rarely works. Neither did it work properly in Windows 2000.
@@nickwallette6201 I actually didn't use the onboard RAID controller back in the day. I had a PCI controller instead. I don't remember why
A riveting restoration.
I have this pc case, dark grey color
I had one, too. It was quite decent, if I remember correctly.
It's a nice case
Yes it is, its heavy but robust, has plenty of space, and it has rails for 3.5" bays. A friend gave it to me, and i changed the case of my main computer to this because it was far better than what i had. My old pentium 4 640 is still there. And I did some interesting experiments taking advantage of the space, like mounting two power supplies inside to power a radeon 3870x2.
@@borjaevo Yeah, love the rail holders inside. All the rails were still in the case because of the rail holders
I am having a very similar problem with my 486DX machine. The IDE sockets quit working and the ISA bus is dead too. The machine has three 32bit PCI slots so I was able to boot up its hard drive using a Promise Technology 66 controller card inserted into one of the PCI slots with a PCI video card. I'm glad I have that option, but that leaves the CD ROM dead in the water.
Well, we'll figure it out. I have a few things to try out in a video in about two weeks
I wonder if a quick troubleshooting step would be to start with a fresh BIOS flash in case the BIOS on that board is suffering from bit rot?
@@T3hBeowulf I was hoping for that too. Unfortunately, flashing the BIOS didn't help. I have now also found that the USB isn't working. At least not with WMe
Alienware Dragon is not the case type. It's an Antec full tower case. Alienware used Antec.
You should spray a CRT green next. :-)
It took me years to find one of these! They are silly rare! It would look insane though haha
I might be in the same boat as you, regarding the failing IDE controller. In my case (no pun intended), it's an MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU (Via KT333+8233A) but the symptoms are similar. Regarding the FDC, I find it weird that it's also behaving given that it is integrated in the Super IO, not in the southbridge or the northbridge...
I'm looking forward to watching your next video!
Thanks! The FDD is working now
Great video. I'm McLovin' it.
Thanks!
wow 2 processor motherboard most people dont know about it Sir like FSB story
I wonder if the shop thought you were spray painting a honda civic with that color choice lol
The lady in the shop actually had a funny look when I put these cans on the counter. I was a bit worried about what to say if she asked me what I was up to haha
this is the kind of build i would have killed for back in the day!
Next to no games back in the day used dual cores.
@@glenndoiron9317 yeah but they look cool! For a while I got on a dual cpu building kick mostly on the old x58 platform… not great for gaming but two cpus just looks badass!
A build like this isn't supposed to make any sense :)
In order, to find an old product you can not remember the name or model too, photograph the item from your video sauce use Google lense to scan, then hit Google images go from there.
At 30.08 it sure looks to me like the floppy cable is the wrong way round. Number 1 wire should be at the opposite side that any IDE seems to have it. That's assuming Your floppy drive's connector is somehow not the opposite way round to normal. Anyway very enjoyable video. Love that Sparkly green paint.
Thank you, you are right. I swapped to a cable without the plastic key pin and installed it the other way around. The FDD now works :)
@@Epictronics1 Excellent news! Glad to hear nothing is dead. Been there done that myself years ago.
That CRT looked familiar :) I have LG Flatron 915FT Plus.
Great monitor!
Yeah! Mine is getting little dark, found service manual and there's instructions for some tuning...
This reminds me of a system that I have. GA-6VTXD with dual 1.4 Tualatin PIII and 3GB of PC133 Crucial Reg ECC ram (supposed to only support 2GB).
Thanks for the videos.
Sounds like a sweet setup. Thanks
awesome work!
Thank you!
my death star from like 2001 somehow still works though it's very noisy.
There's something else with old cases. Maybe it's their «form follows function» vision: It's a computer case, and you should be comfortable working on it. I've lost my taste for big towers, but that one looks really interesting, and the paint job is top notch.
As for the motherboard, a half-dead southbridge looks difficult to diagnose. Do you plan to change the chip entirely?
Thanks. If I have to. I'm still doing some tests as I write this
Dual 300a s370s did 450mhz in smp
I have two or three Dual-Slot-1 (Slot-A) motherboards, one of them will only go up to P3-550, one is P2-only, and the last one will take 2x P3-1133mhz cpus. Sadly all three of these boards are essentially "too fast" and/or "too new" for the stuff I usually like playing around with. (I have matching P2-300s, matching P3-550s, and matching P3-850s) I *_had_* a slightly newer dual-slot-1 motherboard that I had running stable with 2x P3-1133mhz CPUs that I built for a roomie to use to play FinalFantasy-11 Online WAAY back in the day, think the video card in it was something like a GF4ti-4600 or something similar.. FFXI didn't run /great/, but since he was mooching off me, playing for free, and even got ME to pay his monthly subscription -- I think he got more than enough.
Edit: Twat moved out one night after I'd been up late working on my boat, stole my xbox, ps2, about 40 games AND MY CAT that I'd had for like 6 years, got it at ~4wks old and had to bottle feed it. I'd have murdered that guy with a smile on my face had I ever found him after that.
That cat was my PTSD-therapy animal after the Army screwed me up pretty bad.. cat slept against my chest with his head under my chin, every night.. ~18 years later and I STILL miss him profoundly.
Sorry for the drama-dump folks, feel free to ignore all of that and I hope y'all have a wonderful day/night ^^/
Would be interested to see period correct software actually utilize dual cores
There will be some benchmarks and tests in a follow-up video
amazing as always
Thanks!
Piece of art!
Thank you :)
nicely done 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks!
I think capacitor plague was part of what killed off abit..... around that time I had a kt7a-raid; other than being slightly buggered from the box it was alright......
Quite possible
I forget exactly but I think was nichicon had a bad series or 2 around that era that unfortunately they had been using quite a bit..... effected a lot of their boards..... ** being sued over bad caps is on their wiki... it's worth noting this was a bad era for caps in general