I Built an INFINITELY ONE-SIDED Violin??
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YAY this was so much fun! Thanks for letting me play it! 🎻🔥🤘
I missed the bagpipes.
You're super cool and inspiring!
5:58 do not fret 😂😂😂😂 with a board no less... I love this double triple pun
Such a wonderful surprise duet at the end!
I love your performance style! Also your outfits are so cool. :3
Collabing with a professional doesn't mean you didn't do it correctly. It means you will get a functioning violin
And everyone watching gets to learn a little bit more about the complexities of a craft that most of us know nothing about. It's beautiful seeing experts at work.
I am a professional, i build network across the world for some of the largest companies. And my would not hesite to ask a fellow profession for help in an area that is not my strenth or one i have the experince in. And I will always share my ideas with them to see if they have any quesiton, see any errors or ways it could be made better.
Sharing expertise is one of the biggest privilages we have and if you are around other experts there is nothing more rewarding than providing and reciving knowlage.
Yes we can do things alone, but why deny our selves the pleasure of sharing and learning when we can.
Look at the joy they had in the shop teaching her about violin making. This is 100% what being a "maker" is all about, its not isolation, and its not all about "learning" its just as much about teaching and sharing. that what this video is about, and that is what spending time in the music shop.
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@@TheDevilWAH like for grammar i guess. ;-)
Noting wrong at all in inquiring expert guidance when you're in unfamiliar space. 30 years ago, when I did audio for broadcasting, I asked for tips and advice whenever the need arose. Excellent lesion in not only making a one-sided violin but also showing that asking for advice is totally okay.
Xyla, like I said in my other comment, I am a handtool woodworker. I recognized every tool and operation the guys in the violin shop did on your violin, and I can perform all of them. But if I had to try to figure out what order to do them in, how much, etc., forget it. I'd make very fancy firewood. So props to you for getting expert help, there's nothing wrong with that at all.
Then you're on the right path because learning luthery basically amounts to making fancy firewood and occasionally an instrument.
can confirm. lots of firewood at the start, with a few things that can truly make music, less firewood but more instruments later on.
and randomly for fun, firewood that makes music.
Start with electric guitar, there's lots of margin for error before you end up with an instrument that _can't_ be saved.
Not saying you won't kill at least one, but you can probably gain the experience that otherwise would have destroyed half a dozen acoustic or acoustic-electric instruments.
@@mal2ksc I second this, electric guitar or bass is a great place to start.
You can even set your electric guitar on fire and still play it afterwards.
I see no problem with asking for help, and it made the video more interesting and we learned more. Thanks for being real.
Asking for help is always a good idea, we need to Stop acting like not knowing everything is something shameful :)
Asking for help isn't a problem.
Yeah the luthery was maybe the most interesting part
Luthery is magic, and luthiers are wizards. You cannot convince me otherwise.
That may be true for strings. Brass luthiers are plumbers
As a luthier, I disagree. :P
@@theothertonydutch Nice try, wizard!
Everything is math, even those strange runes the electrical engineers use to build amps.
Moral of the story: "You can do more than you think. But you can't do everything." I love it. I think that it's great that you got professionals involved as well. Great collaboration.
It's something I've just recently started to really realise: part of achieving "self-actualization" is knowing when to go beg for help, (& when not to, but that's not the angle that I'm needing to approach.)
She can build a whole city in her garage AND play the violin? Give this girl a medal now !
She has better: a crown! Well, not since she flew it to space, but you'll get the idea :D
believe it or not, straight to the lathe.
Wait until she connects the violin to a tesla coil. That's when the fun really starts :D
I think the best thing in this video is the respectful humility you bring with you to the luthiers who helped you finish the project. ... And, judging by the comments so far, it looks like your viewers mostly agree with the idea that there's no shame with consulting experts :)
Next, do a Klein bottle saxophone
Dammit, you beat me to that. I suggested a Kline Bottle violin though. The precise shape matters a lot more for acoustic instruments. If you're going to distort the shape, it pretty much has to be electric or else it is EXTREMELY difficult.
Dammit, you beat me to the idea.
How about a Sierpinski triangle? The tool path for that could be a challenge.
Klienolin
Man of culture over here:D
"Which side does this part go on?"
"The side."
That shop is AMAZING!!! They didn't just get you up and running, they took the time to TEACH YOU!! How cool of them!!
I thought about that as well. I have often seen, though, that true masters of their craft (whatever that may be) that have a true understanding of the craft will often be quite willing to share their craft with others, thus spreading the craft farther. Gatekeepers are not, in my opinion, truly masters of their craft. They just want to keep the elite status for themselves.
@@roberttimstarliper1671 Absolutely!! I get simply not having the time, but if possible, teaching is fun! Gotta keep it going!
That do not fret joke at 5:55 is golden
You caught that too? 😂
Thanks! I completely missed that!
It took a couple seconds for that sentence to fully connect with my brain. She was sentences further, when my brain suddenly clicked and I said out loud "wait, did she really just make that joke? That is such a good one!"
wtf was that!?!! 😮💨
"Do not fret" is maybe a more important rule of violin making than "don't epoxy the nut on".
I didn't notice until it was actually played at the end but I like how the infinity warp on the forward facing side allowed for more mobility in where the bow could move and not interact with the frame. Well done.
I just noticed that too! Great detail.
Anyone who complains that you had professionals do part of the project obviously would have to mine ore and fabricate all of their own tools from scratch (including the camera!), as well as getting all of the supplies used in the project from original sources in nature. If someone isn't doing everything from scratch, then we're just down to how much professional involvement takes place, and quibbling over percentage points is silly. When you account for the tools and supplies needed to do any project, the overwhelming majority is done by others. And it's actually pretty cool that anything we make is a collaboration between hundreds or thousands of people (or more!), all doing their bit in the process that creates something amazing.
Well said, I never really thought of it in those regards. Standing on the shoulders of giants
First, invent the Universe..
Just give John Plant* a couple years.
*: the Prinitive Technology guy
@@notfeedynotlazy Yeah, but even he's not really doing it all on his own -- he's just doing proofs of concept... which is cool, but not the same as what the OP points out is the absurd extreme of the argument Xyla was anticipating.
And yeah, this whole independence myth needs to go, because it's just that: a myth. We're all INTERdependent.
So, Clickspring?
Me at the beginning of the video: "You know who I would love to see play this? Mia Asano"
Me at the end of the video: "OMG it's Mia Asano!!
My thoughts went first to Two Set. (Brett and Eddie's most recent video was about oddly shaped violins!😆)
I was thinking Bad Snacks at first, but then when she said it was electric, I changed my mind to Mia. And then I literally clapped.
did she make 2 of them ?
@@spacecase0 I think that was a split shot of them playing her violin at different times. They wave, then there's a transition, and they stay far apart with no talking, only playing. very clever!
Same
My dad is an engineer (chemical and mechanical) and a luthier who owns a small bluegrass string shop and studio in TX. He would be proud of you! Hell, I'm proud of you! This scratches a lot of itches.
I hope this is OK but what town in Texas? I'm in SETX myself and the nearest places to me (according to Google) are 1+ hours away in Houston and Louisiana so I'm always looking
One of the reasons I admire your channel is how you seek out proper help when you want something to work properly. You made an electric violin from scratch! And you know how to play it!! 😲
You’re next level talented!! 👏🏻❤️
I went "Ooooo!" when you picked up the neck for the first time! So nice! Your skills are moving to the next level! We really need to get you a Tormach shop shirt!
Tormach crop top plz! 👀
i mean this with kindness, but next level was yesterday!
i second that idea!
@@-IE_it_yourself We were just referring to her CNC skills. She's beyond talented, and that's why we knew we could trust her with a 24R.
@@xylafoxlin Did you consider creating your mobius violin with an actually stable piece of steam bent timber?
It would be much stronger. Indeed it would have 1000 times the integrity. You would need far less material. The job would be a lot quicker. And there’s obviously no need for any CNC machining. ??
@@G58CNC cut pieces would work well for wrapping the dual curvature, they use CNC cut pieces for hand-layup carbon fibre after all.
Master crafters and professional artisans exist for a reason, and I respect the HELL out of you for consulting a master luthier for a project like this. I respectfully think that anyone who claims you're not a real maker for consulting a master and getting assistance doesn't know what being a maker actually means. Sometimes, it takes a village.
This is insanely cool. Makes me wish I knew how to play violin, hah hah.
I love that the local shop you went to for help were so eager and willing to not only work on your own custom instrument but also take the time to show you themselves. It just brings a smile to my face. Ignore any haters who say you can't ask for help! You're a bad ass and you should always remember that!
I bet the master craftsmen enjoy sharing their knowledge with someone passionate about the craft as much as you do working with them.
I'm not certain if it's the light or not, but around 3:00 when you're doing the timelapse, it looks like your workpiece is *lifting* on the left edge. If that's the case, you might look into making that surface a fixture table.
It certainly looks like the stock lifted around th-cam.com/video/nSblfD9GVTc/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared&t=182 . Would make sense with an upcut-bit.
It's certainly moving!
Up-cut endmill go brrr
I noticed the same.
Your willingness to seek assistance from a luthier was refreshing. We, too often, wallow in ignorance by believing that we can do anything, when, in reality, there's a reason that artforms exist, and that's for those experts to pass down their knowledge to other would-be experts. Learning from those more competent than ourselves in a given field of endeavor is literally how we better ourselves. Well done for recognizing that, Ms. Foxlin.
Your pun work was certainly in tune, and I wasn't fretting!
up until that point i already forgot it was a violin.
I think a REAL maker is someone who knows when to ask for help! You can learn a lot more from asking a professional (and with less frustration) than you can from just charging forward.
That is a wonderful looking violin! Love seeing the collab at the end of the video!
Okay, I didn't know you could play....and sort of thought it was the challenge of building an instrument that was driving you. But when you played at the end it was pretty amazing and blew me away! You have so many varying creative skills!
Iirc it was her talent when she won a pagent in Ohio. She later shot the crown into space
@@RobinClower "space" starts at 100KM,or 62 miles. How high was Xyla's crown shot?
If you look at another channel she was involved in (Beauty and the Bolt) she has a video of her playing a violin using a number of electrical arc machines to make the sound, it's incredible!
@@JayWye52 th-cam.com/video/aQcAGpgi0qk/w-d-xo.html This was the video, and whilst it 'only' made it to 34km/112,000ft, it's high enough up to see the curve of the earth, and look like it's in space, which might be what the other guy was thinking of.
@@JayWye52 Well, she didn't "shoot" it she launched it with a helium balloon up to near-space; ~112,00 feet where the balloon burst. There is a video, of course.
I think asking for help is super important especially on TH-cam. When I talk to others about their earlier career or early in their hobbies, they always tell me how much faster they would have learned if they knew they can and should ask for help more often.
Ultimately that's good engineering. When you're learning it can be good to do things the hard way a few times to understand what's underneath, but when it comes to doing it for a living, only do the parts you're the expert in yourself and pay others to make the stuff that they do better than you. You'll get what you need faster than trying to become an expert in all of it.
Xyla, glad to see you did it!! I remember you showing the start of it when i visited. Great project and fun video as always
Thank you Herb!
Something tells me that anyone telling you that CNC is cheating would be utterly lost if you plopped them down in front of a machine and asked them to set up a new job. This is a really inspiring build. Impossible mathematical shapes for the win.
The only thing that a CNC is cheating for is fingerpainting
Well not that it matters as it is just for the looks anyway
@@worldpeace1822 Without intent to enter into an internet fight, I hope you do realize that "for the looks" is _the whole point_ of this build to begin with.
@@notfeedynotlazy IMHO,there IS a significant difference between using your hands and tools to shape a piece of wood to what you want compared to telling a machine to shape a piece of wood for you.
Note that the professional luthiers didn't CNC machine her violin parts,they hand-shaped them.
@@notfeedynotlazy I think the "whole point of the build" is to make a custom violin. Nothing wrong with getting professional assistance,guidance,etc. IMO,her CNC machining was a shortcut. Not much different than ordering the pieces.
Clicked play SOOOO fast! Unexpected Xyla video is still good Xyla video 😀
Love to see some new shop vids! This project worked out PERFECTLY!
Even as a tradesman, I can safely say there is no shame in going to a master when you find yourself up against a delicate build - there's a reason some builds have an entire profession around it!
Well done Xyla!
I love that the Mobius strip is functional, In that it gives more clearance for the bow.. This is an improvement on the “traditional” electric violin.
Sure, epoxy-ing the nut was a mistake, but now you know. Your best luthier-type creation yet
One of the reasons I love watching you make things is that you aren't afraid to ask for help. I LOVE watching your content. You are a pretty cool lady.
Please don't apologize for learning and teaching. Projects like this are important and appreciated. Thanks.
It's so refreshing (although not a surprise with you, Xyla) to hear & see a Maker step back and let actual masters of a craft work their magic at appropriate steps in a project. No ego inflation, no "ME ME ME ME ME" when asked who made something, no "everybody can do this, just find a couple of videos online" -- just an honest acknowledgement of how precious some arts & artists really are. That got this video an immediate 11 out of 10 from me.... but playing a duet with Mia Asano at the end pushed the final score to 12 out of 10!
the collection of unconventionally shaped instruments doubles
Waiting for the next one....
My violin teacher was a fifth generation violin luthier, and among a lot of lofe lessons, I learned a bit about how much knowledge and art and experience and tradition goes into building or even just restoring or repairing a violin. You did the right thing being humble and finding craftsmen and women to guide and help you.
I appreciate your appreciation for the masters. ❤
Beautiful design and execution! I've been doing woodworking for longer than you've been alive so I get excited when I see advanced projects like this. I do have to admit though that when I first saw the video I was hoping the body was laminated, only because I'm into that now. But I was struck by how well you designed such a complex shape in CAD.
ahh, a Stradi-Mobius Violin...
those are very rare!
XD
Stradi-Mobius or Foxli-Mobius?
@@darrinrebagliati5365 it's a play on Stradivarius violins
a very rare and highly prized set of instruments that no one has thus far been quite
able to replicate the sound of as of yet
@@darrinrebagliati5365 Nah. The Möbiolin.
@@jimmon89 yes, I do understand what a Stradivarius is. But this is slightly too new to be one. And wonderful enough to deserve it's own name.
@@darrinrebagliati5365 fair enough, no harm in that, cheers!
Your excitement, humility, and the reverence you show so often to those that helped you thrust your ideas into reality. Absolutely the total package.
Awesome job! CNC is very much not cheating, just another tool in the toolbox.
When watching the time lapse on the "good" mobius strip, I definitely saw the piece move. Sometimes, really good double sided tape is enough. And sometimes.....not.
And WHAT A TREAT to see Mia too!
I am in my 32nd year of Luthiery. Luthiery is not magic, it is time, experience, knowledge, patience, and problem solving that makes a good luthier. I appreciate that you have respect for the work, and call it art, which it is. You also have what it takes to be a successful luthier, which is the ability to seek knowledge, understanding that you do not have all the answers, respect for the art of luthiery, and the dedication to make your art happen. I love your "outside the box" design, and I think it is a beautiful violin that sounds excellent. I enjoyed this content, and will watch for more. And from this Luthier, I say "Well Done".
I didn’t know you played so well. Wow!!
The fact that you went to an professional is absolutely and amazing. This made it a complete adventure and adds tons transparency, most importantly a realistic view of how crafting isn’t a straightforward, but fun process. You can play the crap out a violin too!!👍👍👍
Robert Cauer is like the most respected violin luthier...in the world....president of the violiln makers association of the americas...he is the GOD of violin making and restoration...and one of the kindest men in the industry.
THANK YOU for recognizing the value and importance of skilled craft. You did the right thing.
Hi Xyla, would love to see you flying once again. Take care, love the Violin!
It doesn't make you less of a maker to seek an expert on a part you're not an expert on! That's just wisdom and intelligence. 💜 Love this so much, and you did a beautiful job! And it's so nice to have you back. :)
You can see the maple lifting on the second side. Use a down-cut bit or clamp/screw it in place.
timestamp?
@@-IE_it_yourself Just after she flips the first maple board and starts the cnc, it lifts slightly.
I introduced your channel to my 21 year old niece. She’s starting her senior year at Purdue majoring in statistics. You are an inspiration to not only her but to me as well!!! 💕 Keep up the fantastic and inspiring work!!!
Now you need to go up a level: KLINE BOTTLE VIOLIN!
I mean surely that should be a Kline Bottle Tuba or something
Welcome back!!!
Wow! Mia is awesome! You are awesome! Thanks for sharing your respect for luthiers with us and so glad to see you were able to learn some new things with this build 💙💙
Yes! More Xyla! Today is a good day
This includes two things that made happen what I had thought was impossible: My loving Xyla more:
1) She openly got help, showing honesty and integrity and a focus on doing things right.
2) She played violin for us while looking spectacular, one of the dreamiest things possible.
Kudos as always. The people of the world are smarter and more likely to go out and make and do good things because of your efforts.
Have you seen the tesla coil violin thing? On her old channel?
'Don't fret', 'ribbing'? Love it
Perfect Vid! Great to see the humility and respect at the violin shop. The entire video I was thinking that looks like something Mia Asano would want to play ... Perfect finish
Welcome back Xyla :)
Great video Xyla, from the thumbnail I thought it was going to be a veneer lamination with fancy molds. Nice to see the alignment holes/pins for CNC router reference. Awesome duet with Mia.
At last! Electric violin that doesn't look like shit.
I like it when you go to the professionals from time to time. People that do things well should be supported.
That air prop you had made was great content. That woman knew her stuff.
0:08 "Merc-ing around"? Of course my ADHD brain thought "So, it's been floating around un-aliving other ideas?" 😂
Soooo evocative to see a Record No 9½ block plane at 11:49, but particularly how it is being used at 13:22 (although I used both thumbs for extra pressure!)
I'm inspired.
Please spill some sugar about the bi-weekly stuff you mentioned.
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Wow 😱 I know her too
Miss Christina Ann Tucker is a remarkable individual who has brought immense positivity and inspiration into my life.
I started with a miserly $1500. The results have been mind blowing I must say TBH
< I know that woman(Christina Ann Tucker)
If you were born and raised in new York you'd know too, No doubt she is the one that helped you get where you are!!!!
Happy to see the Osage mallet I sent Xyla put in some good work on the peg box on this one. :)
I don't know where to start... You're absolutely awesome and one of my heroes. Your skill set is beyond reproach. I hope that we get to hear you play more often and have Mia back again. Thank you. You made my day better.
Part of becoming truly great at anything is understanding your limits and seeking out people with more experience to help you and learn from.
Great work!
Love how the bow in play fits and lines up perfectly within the curve and angle of the strip's rotation.
I'm am blown away by every video I watch of Xylas ! Just pure magic watching stuff getting built from beginning to end
Listening to Hilary Hahn play is always a joy. I have her recording of the Samuel Barber Concerto for Violin which is a real virtuoso piece. Having Mia play at the end was another Joy!
My Dad was a classical viola player and I went with him to a couple of repairers when I was young. It was very much like going into a wizards cave! Lots of tools which have no counterpart in the usual woodworking environment. The contrast between your 21st Century shop and one which has barely changed since the 1600s is fascinating.
This video is a both fascinating and astonishing. I found you through your Wooden Rocket project, and now a Mobius Strip violin! Wonderful. This old electronics engineer salutes you!
Being a violin luthier and son of a small aircraft mechanic, I Loved this video!! You Rock Zyla!
This is just wow. From video, to the story, to the respect of the art, to the violin itself it was beautiful in every aspect. Just wonderful and not enough good things to say about it. Thank you.
You’ve collected such an incredible set of skills - an entire lifetime’s worth - this is why I find your work so fascinating and inspiring to watch 🥰
That's really cool that you were able to collaborate with seasoned professionals who were very willing to work with your unique angle.
That's so awesome of Autodesk to get you in touch with an expect. CAD and CAM has such a steep learning curve, but it feels so powerful once you start to grasp it. Hope to see more machinery type stuff in the future!!
As a luthier myself, I approve of this video. 😍
Hey Xyla! Gotta admit, my fave part was at the start when you old-schooled compressed the glued-plywood by kneeling on it!😂 What a beautiful and cool violin! Next do an LED kazoo that changes colours in-synch with the notes (more or less.) Awesome finish!💕
Lutherie and Luthier are new words I've learnt and along with the background of the art and craft I have a new appreciation of the skill that goes in to instrument working. Thanks Xyla!
I strongly admire your attempt to build a violin. Yes, this truly is an art form depending heavily (or even completely) on the skill of the practitioner in order to complete the task. I'm sure you learned a lot which will help you build more.
First, let me say how much I love watching your videos. Your bubbly personality shines through and makes your videos stand out among your competitors. I love to watch your creative workflow and how you give insight into your problem-solving. It makes your projects look obtainable and keeps a human element to them that I love. Finally, thank you for taking the violin to a professional to make this a true instrument. I don't play any instruments, nor do I make things like yourself. That being said, watching you and them do what you do best sent this video over the top. Thank you for giving me a 15+ minute escape from my reality and letting me live for just a moment in your world. Wishing you all the best.
Probably one of the most satisfying projects is to build a musical instrument. Totally awesome work !!! Congrats. Yes, I know Mr. Cauer also and he is an absolutely incredible being ... my son cello was picked from many with him helping us with an outmost enthusiasm and generosity of spirit. It was one of the best experiences in my life. Keep at it Engineer Foxlin !!!! 🤗
love this! I did a 3d printed mobius wedding ring for a friend a while back which gave me a lot of respect for the effort involved in getting something that looks and feels good as well as incorporating the right mathematical twists!
physics and music combined into one beautiful workshop project. This is the best thing I have seen on TH-cam in a long long time.
I am so happy to have found your channel, even with aviation being the thing that brought me here. As an artist and musician and person who just lives into my day, you and your art just amaze me. Thank you!!!
At 3:00 you can clearly see the piece of wood moving up and down. That could explain your problems.
Great project ! Thank you for showing us your art and some amazing artists.
Wow. First time visitor. My first impressions: you are an amazingly talented young lady. To know how to play an instrument and to be able to build it is incredible! I very much enjoyed my visit and I will be back.
What an amazing craft these violin creators have, never thought so much goes into it! Also amazing is your violin playing abilities, would love to listen to it more! I could enjoy this for hours
I love it when talented makers center other talented makers with interesting expertise. Plus, super cool project.
"cover your mistakes with sandpaper" = Xyla's autobiography title.
That was a lot of fun watching the luthiers work their craft and help you learn....Thanks for the video.
I love Fusion - although still learning how to use it fully. Love that it's still available to hobbyists for free - hope that continues. And learning from masters is what Making is all about.
You made a really cool Violin Shaped Object, and then you took it to the right professionals to turn it into an actual violin. Mad respect on both counts.
A teacher of mine was a luthieran and he taught us to wet wood slightly between sandings to bring out wood fibers that protrude when getting wet.
My biggest respect: You are really multitalented and have so much knowledge about so many different subjects, materials, machines, cnc, and so on and so on ❤👍
I forgot to mention music and instruments
BRAVO Xyla! That was beautiful, and well worth watching, especially when you and Mia Asan begin playing. I can't wait for your next video!
That was awesome! Love seeing you do a wide variety of projects that test your abilities.
Great work. Love the shape and the wood you chose for this project. Congratulations on your first instrument.
Luthiers are amazing. I have a friend, among his many talents includes being a luthier. He claims to be a beginner but seeing an hearing his work tells another story.
I really loved this. Getting help from luthiers was the right choice, made a cool idea, a truly beautiful thing!! Incredible work, amazing piece! So friggin cool!
It is good to know your limits and to properly try to expand them, and yes, what a wonderful ending to the build.
So excited to see this come into existence! It looks absolutely amazing and the way the möbius strip twist accommodates the bow just looks so cool.