Commodore 1541 drive hacked to work inside a PC!
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Very poetic to use an old ESCOM computer, considering they owned the Commodore brand at one point.
Yes, this might be the world's first ESCOM with MOS chips!
It's interesting that Escom machine has not yellowed at all, all of the plastics look pristine.
Yes, I was very lucky with this one. I got it in mint condition
Fun fact: that LED-PCB with the black and yellow wires actually has indicators in Japanese saying: クロ (= kuro, meaning black) and キ (= ki, short for ki'iro, meaning yellow).
cool :)
Norton Commander was my favorite application for doing any file work. I believe I still have an original copy of that somewhere. I definitely keep it in my old pc repair kit, a small but very effective and convenient program.
In the Pentium era people would be using CCS64 to emulate C64 as it had the best performance and highest compatibility for the time. There’s a DOS version and a Windows version, but that didn’t arrive until the XP era. I had no problem reaching 100% speed on a P166 but a P60 would be an interesting test
I'll give it a try, thanks!
I can confirm, I used to use CCS64 back then!
This is an absolutely epic video! Congratulations EPICtronics! 🎉
Thanks Al. This was a really fun project :)
That looks very neat. I really like that the process is reversible and no parts were broken. 🙂
great project!
Thanks!
Another way to do it is load the d64 on a Pi1541 and use a disk copy utility to copy the "floppy" to physical disk.
I love your channel. Thanks for all the great vids and hard work, merging older and newer technology. Your edits are perfect. You include what needs to be include and edit out redundant parts that are not important to keep the videos moving along and on topic.
Thank you :)
this is very cool! It'd be great to have a tall tower with all the available drives for retro gaming/computing! Thanks for the video. Now I'm going to see what the hack is to make the 32GB partition!
Thanks. Apparently, there is a card that would allow for more than 2 floppies. Maybe I'll try it out someday
This is really cool. Good old hardware hacking. This is amazing to watch. Keep up the videos.
Thanks!
Wow, that’s a wild hack! I never would have thought that was possible. Nice work!
Thanks!
This video will do very well, I'm sure. Remember us little guys when you make it to 1 million subs. 😂 good work, as always.
😅Thanks 50!
@@Epictronics1been watching for about a year, great channel!
@@harrydean9723 Thank you :)
It's interesting seeing you go through all the work to move a floppy drive internally. It looks good and is neat. I am just so lazy I use my 1571 and sd2iec via a c64 program to move .d64 files to real floppies on my c64.
You should design a pcb for that drive controller
Already exists
I should think that cap under the processor must get pretty cooked!
That's exactly what I thought too! If this board ever gives me any trouble, that's the first component I will check
You could try and cut a thin piece of plastic to fit into the ISA slot and srew or hot glue it to the controller board.
Awesome idea and a video too ofc!!
Thanks!
Dan Wood made a video where a pc can connect directly to a c64 and write disks to the C64 a while back.
I made a video like that a few years ago. This is the evolution of that project :)
I can't seem to find the video you're describing; what's the link?
I assume this is just the x1541 hookup but internal? I did a 1541 to parallel hook up about 20 years ago but just plugged the drive into the external parallel port. But I only did it for fun. Connecting a 1541 to the parallel port of a PC works but is abysmally slow writing the disk. Funny how you just skipped the writing part hehe! It's quicker to use one of the various sdcard carts (i.e. Ultimate1541 or SD2IEC or Kung Fu Flash etc) and write a d64 on a real C64 using Dracopy.
Very neat project! 👍
the SID emulation in recent versions of Vice needs a surprisingly large amount of cpu horsepower - try disabling sound or choosing a different SID emulator in the options
The legs on that led looked really long. I think you could have easily trimmed them and it would fit fine. A donor dinn connector would have made that patch cable a lot easier.
A 1541 floppy in a PC. What kind of sorcery is this? 😁
The jank is strong with this one...
This is sweet. I have been thinking about doing something similar but planned to use the USB to 1541 solution. This is really cool.
Next step should be to have a 1581 under the pc floppy.
I hope you get the emulator sorted out. Would be cool to run games from the 1541c inside the pc
That would be very cool!
nice.... I think i'd have just got a dual-colour LED, red and green, and set it up that way ;)
Oh, that's actually clever. I may do that
@@Epictronics1 Nice :) - but double check the common, and make sure you get the correct one ;)
Respray the whole pc to save the drive color 😂
If it wasn't rare, I'd respray it to look like a C64 any day!
Did this mod once but I left the C64 drive in its external case and used DIN connectors and a DB-25 to make an adapter cable. I don’t recall what software I used on the pc side but it did work.
That's how I did it years ago too. This method was a lot more fun :)
Clicked like before watching. Your stuff is that good. Lol
Thanks :)
Great job. I only miss links to the readings that You have done in order to connect commodore drive to an PC. MfG
Thanks. Here you go: sta.c64.org/xm1541.html
nice
Is there a video on how this actually works on the software side? Do you need a special driver to talk to the controller over the LPT port? Is it a feature of star commander?
No, nothing else is needed. Just download SC and run it
I clicked on this expecting it to be about just using the PC's drive bay as a space-saving novelty enclosure. This is so much wilder. How old is that program you used for the copying, and what kind of setup was it _originally_ meant for? Some kind of external LPT1-to-serial cable?
Yes, SC is from the mid-90s but I think it was updated as late as 2010
You have to work with flux for better results.
Great video. I have a fully working 1541-II drive that is missing half it's case with the other half heavily yellowed and cracked. I don't have a second set of cables to go with it. It seems like it's begging to be hacked into an old PC.
I got stressed and anxious by this video
haha, why?
I haven't seen the video finished yet. But connecting a 1541 to a PC makes me scared... :) I have a XUM1541though, but still. It's not normal to do that :)
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@@tommyovesen haha, I don't do "normal" unfortunately :)
@@Epictronics1 That's why your channel is so much fun!
@@tommyovesen "normal" is boring! 😀
Commodore rainbow cables.
i have a little fan..
Huh. Escom. I haven't seen that logo in AGES.
Yeah, they messed up and disappeared shortly after the acquisition of the Commodore brand.
I just use a $5 Arduino ProMicro to connect a 1541 to a PC.
i have alot of heatsink for socket 7 or 8 and i just got truck that way i can load stuff up on my truck ( my car engine spit in half blew it self up)
i never think there was good way do floppy drive in 93 model mobo that is awesome learn something news
Don't copy that floppy! LOL
Oh, I'll copy that floppy! ;)
Is this machine for sale? :)))
Sorry, but no :)
This seems horrible, isn't the Commodore drive so slow that almost any dev board could do an RS232 to IEE488 bridge?, that would seem a far nicer approach, in theory you could even then chain the external disk, C64 and PC together. I assume this all hangs of some obscure bit of software I don't understand. Still, interesting video even if I did grit my teeth.
Interesting. There's definitely room for improvement. I was quite happy to get it all up and working, but I'll see if we can make it faster
Why wouldn't you just trim the plastic from the drive faceplate instead of modifying the pcb that holds that ir led etc? Trimming a little plastic is way easier.
I try to make all my hacks non-destructive and reversible. but you're right, that would have been easier
That's gotta be the Jankiest and ugliest 1541 mod that i've ever seen 😁
It's a Neutronics drive. It's as good as dead. Your efforts are in vain.