I have the Betta SE model. The one before the new one featured in this video. I can 100% verify that it does not work when it’s cloudy ☁️ 🌥️ ☁️ I initially thought it was broken lol 😂 However, when it is sunny the Betta is AWESOME! It picks up everything and works all night long as well. I hardly ever skim the pool myself, so I love it for that. Anyone who is watching this video and considering to buy one, it’s 100% worth it.
100% agree, not only because you get a crystal clear pool, but it actually saves you money as you can reduce the pump time and still have crystal clear pool.
100% agree. Might seem like an expensive gadget but if you want a crystal clear all year round and save money on your pump it’s a must have for people with a pool.
Thank you for the review, I have a lot of trees around my pool and I used to have to scoop the surface every day. Since having this I have not had to scoop the pool once. I live in California and the cleaner runs through the night as the pool is in full sun year round. I had a Polaris 280 cleaner, and found that the Betta was constantly getting caught up on the hose, so I purchased the Polaris Freedom cordless robotic cleaner and my pool has never been cleaner. Because of the Polaris freedom, I don’t have to run a separate booster pump, and it reaches every part of the pool including the tile line and thanks to the betta, I don’t need to put the Polaris in the pool every day.
It will still try and run. As long as the battery is still charged it will still run. It won't damage the skimmer but you'll notice it because of all the debris it's probably pushing around in front of it.
I have a lot of leaves and yard debri that constantly blow in the pool. This is a game changer, don't even know where my pool net is now. It goes around the clock cleaning the surface. Wel worth the money
I had to return my SE Plus. It would reverse, and start pushing debris out of the front, back into the pool. It did this every time it reversed. I hung on for a week and a half, hoping it would correct itself, but it still kept doing it. They should design it where impeller would disengage when it is reversing.
I have the non-auxiliary charging model. This skimmers work great. However, this is the 3rd skimmer I have owned, each of different brands, and none of them last an entire year without the batteries failing and the unit having to be returned for repair. This is the current status of my betta which has already been returned once during ownership. I’m going to see if it’s possible for me to replace the batteries myself this time around
My problem isnt so much skimming debris it is all the sand whipped up that wont get caught with a skimmer net...then settles to the bottom in dirt piles...my aquanaught 250 is random and always decides to skip the dirt piles would this pick up all the fine dirt on the top before it settles
Hi Shamara! Don't know if you've purchased an SE Plus yet but I have another review on another solar pool skimmer from a different company coming soon. If you search SMONET SR5 SOLAR POOL SKIMMER on Amz you'll see which one I'm talking about!($100 cheaper than SE Plus)
I use the Betta SE model and totally agree, this is a great product. I live in Australia and mine worked solid (even through the night, which is spooky seeing the green lights moving around your pool in the dark) for 2 days and now still works till 3-4am before waiting for the sun. I could even reduce my pool pump time as there was literally nothing on the bottom for the robot to collect, saving you money. Awesome product. Definitely recommend.
Hi have you had issues with wind or the pool jets making it not work well? There are a few reviews on the new model on Amazon where people are complaining on the new model
Haven't had any issues with the jets running at the same time. I turned the pump off and it moves pretty much the same with or without. Wind slowing it down is interesting. I mean it makes sense if you get a lot of wind. Like if I use my blower and blow the skimmer directly it'll slow it down. But that's the same for all skimmers. I haven't had high winds here yet to test that but the SE Plus has been working well so far for me.
@@imdefinitelydavidthe reviews on Amazon were saying even with light winds and regular return flow it wouldn’t go around the whole pool . I messaged betta they said the se and se plus have the same motor so I’m wondering if there was a batch of defective ones that got back reviews.. will see when I order it later in April
I would have liked a little more of a review on the Strand bars, it's one of the new features and the reason I bought mine because I have a full length steps at the shallow end.
The bottom center of the basket even has a circular holder that fits a three inch chlorine tab. The instructions don't mention it, so I'm not sure if the company wants to advertise it, but it holds a tablet perfectly. Would be a great way to spread Chlorine. Unless it Breaks down the machine. Maybe something to Try David.
Yeah I've been noticing more of these skimmers with the circular insert inside, some even have a separate compartment for a chlorine tablet hidden. And none of them ever advertise it so I'm wondering why. I mean, it's definitely a nice extra feature that makes sense.
Nobody that does these reviews ever mentions that anything that floats in floats right back out when the stupid thing backs up. Why doesn’t that get mentioned?
Since the Betta begins to turn as it senses a wall, a lot of debris along the wall won't be picked up. However, when the Betta turns and moves it creates sort of a ripple movement effect in the water and debris along the wall will begin to move and hopefully away from the wall where the Betta will have another chance at picking up that debris later on. Remember, these skimmers are made to be automatic and left alone to do the job over time. As long as you understand that they're slow working cleaners you'll be surprised how well the skimmers pick up debris.
Most likely a dumb question but will ask it anyways. With the Betta SE Plus, can I just put that in my pool and let it run all day and night if it has enough power to do so? I have it but I turn it off at night.
Yes, you can leave it in the pool 24/7! But depending on the season, it may or may not have enough power for the next day. Summer/swim season will be great. It runs all day and night and you only really take it out when you need to empty it or if you go swimming. Because even though it runs through the night and uses the battery, by the time the sun rises it automatically starts recharging and keeps moving at the same time. And usually, will be fully charged again when the sun goes down. Love this during swim season! But this is in optimal swim season. In the Fall and Winter you will definitely need to take it out and charge or turn it off before the evening to save power for the next day.
@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks for the reply. My worries are no more as I will let it run through the night. My pool does get sunlight and it should charge it. If it doesn't get enough charge, I will just take it out and charge it. Thanks again.
Thanks for the review. Have you tested the maximum distance that the remote can still control the Betta SE Plus? It would be nice to sit on my sun porch and still be able to control the unit.
Thanks for taking the time to measure. I was hoping for a little longer distance so I could be lazy and sit on my sun porch overlooking my pool, maybe 25-30 feet away. Guess I'll wait and see.@@imdefinitelydavid
Is it possible to replace the battery? Or do you need an entire new unit when it goes? I’m only open during the swim season in New England, and wondering how many seasons I’d get from this if it can’t be replaced?
Well they don't even sell the battery by itself so I'd assume you'd have to send it to them to replace and for that cost, probably better off getting a new one. The battery is inside the cleaner and hard to reach without taking pieces apart
@@imdefinitelydavid I decided to see how it goes and ordered the s5. I figure the remote features on the others, it would practically be faster to just grab the net at that point, so I went with the s5.
I had a model from a different mfg. That robot skimmer would constantly get stuck on the bottom auto cleaner hose. I noticed you pulled your cleaner out for your video. Does yours get stuck on the hose or does it avoid it?
Oh when I filmed this the sun was going down and the hose to my side cleaner was stuck so I pulled it out of the pool and left it connected while I put the skimmer in. Technically, most manufacturers recommend not using ANY other cleaner in the pool at the same time as the skimmer. But from my testing, there is an exception but only with a cordless robotic cleaner. So you can use a cordless robotic cleaner at the same time as a pool skimmer and be perfectly fine. I've tested skimmers before with cleaners attached to a hose or cord and it always gets stuck. Only cordless works well
Thank you for the video! How does it do with bugs? Are the bugs able to get out of the trap and does it collect the little bugs as well as larger ones? Thx
As long as the skimmer is moving, debris doesn't escape out of it. However, when it slows down around a wall/corner or reverse out of a tight spot, the brush/paddle that spins in the front slows down or stops if there's no power. When this happens, a majority of the debris stays inside the basket but some can flow out of it. Even if it was off the entire day, i'd say less than 5% of debris really escape. And yes, it captures small and big bugs as well. I've even pulled these skimmers open and found a bird inside before.
Does this work better than the Betta SE? I’m seeing mixed early reports on Amazon saying this lacks the speed/momentum that the SE has for adequate retrieval. Maybe because it is lighter or less powerful motor?
In terms of speed, the SE and SE Plus move at the same speed. Both models weigh the same and both use the same motors. I don't understand why one would be slower aside from maybe a defective skimmer.
I’m wondering the same the reviews on Amazon for the se plus seem to indicate that the new model has motor issues but I like the idea of being able to charge overnight
@@imdefinitelydavid so if the ounces matter, the new model is slightly heavier. Seems that @kevinsullivan634 is reading the same literature. The "wind comment" on the new model is also an interesting one.
The Betta, like every other automatic skimmer right now, does not recommend that you use it at the same time as any corded/hose cleaner. Mainly because all of these skimmers' sensors detect the cord and hoses as debris and try to suck it up rather than an object to avoid and get around. That's why I moved the side cleaner out.
Does this have a timer? Like can I just leave it in the pool (like a floaty), let it charge solarly and have it turn on automatically everyday for 4 hours?
I wish it did. It would be great if you could. There are no skimmers on the marker right now with a timer. But when one is released, I'd definitely get it.
I just bought this model and it’s charging now. The owners manual says to not use it with other pool cleaning devices. I have 2 robotic bottom cleaning devices, Apier Seagull SE. Can I use these at the same time with the skimmer? Thank you for any assistance
Yes you can. They mean not to use it with corded cleaners with a plug that goes into the outlet to power it or hose cleaners like a suction cleaner that has a hose floating in the pool. This is because the skimmers don't sense the cord or hoses as obstacles. They think it's debris and try to suck it in and so gets caught in it instead of get around it. I've used all these skimmers with cordless cleaners and they work just fine. You should be fine especially with a floor cleaner that doesn't climb up the wall. And even if it did, I've watched my cordless wall climbers hit the skimmer at the right time, and it's fine, no damage and just continues along the way cleaning.
The SE Plus is the current version so yes, it's the upgraded version. It has better sensors but the motors/propellers I'd say are the same. It also now has an extra charging option where you can use it like the Betta 2 with solar power exclusively but also, you can take it out and charge it in a power outlet too for cloudy/no sun days.
@@imdefinitelydavid I never had a problem, running the betta 2 On cloudy and rainy days. It always held a good charge. Do you think the new one will hold up the same?
I have the Betta of last year and this plus version and it pretty much feels like the same skimmer. So I would assume it's the same quality. Still pretty new to see how well it holds up
We have a fountain attachment in our above ground pool that runs all day. Do you know if it is safe for the betta to continuously go through the water fall all day? I know it’s Water proof but didn’t know if that would have any lasting effects on the solar panel.
That's a good question. I occasionally spray my skimmers with a water hose to wash off the dirt on top of the solar panels. This helps to keep the panels free from dirt and allows more sunlight to be captured. I wouldn't think that continuous water from a waterfall would damage it as long as the skimmer isn't fully submerged underwater.
Does the skimmer move at all? Like you can see it moving so the paddle should be spinning and picking up debris. On the bottom of the skimmer there are these two bars, one on each side, called anti-strand bars. If the skimmer gets stuck on the steps you can extend the bar further out so that it doesn't go over the steps. You have to push the tabs to lower or raise the bars.
@@imdefinitelydavidYes it does move all about the pool. It looks like it is picking up but basket is about empty. I will try that with the feet of the skimmer. Thxs!
Yes, as long as the power switch is flipped to the ON position it's all automatic. Will run until the battery drains and absorb sunlight when available. If not enough sunlight(for instance, at night) it will stay off until the next morning when there is enough sunlight to charge itself and then turn back on automatically.
It's one battery unit. They just made it so that you can charge it with the sun and/or with adapter option. But it's the same battery. There isn't two on the Plus version.
Well it depends on how much sun you get. If used during swim season, the Betta runs 24/7 because of all the sunlight. But in the winter and fall with less sun it'll turn itself off and on accordingly to charge
I just got mine & so far it’s great. I like the Beta SE plus that I can charge because I run it mostly at night when the pool light is on so it picks up the bugs the pool light attracts. My skimmers do a good job job - but this guy picks the bugs and nats faster. So far I really like it!
All of these skimmers are designed to work without other corded cleaners in the pool. Otherwise, like you're experiencing, they get caught up in the cord/hose. Technically, you're supposed to remove the hose cleaner each time, but I know it's not convenient at all. The only real way around it right now, unfortunately, is to use a cordless cleaner with these skimmers.
I've tried it before, but the Betta gets caught in the hose a lot. Especially if the pressure cleaner is on and moving at the same time. Technically, you're not supposed to use a corded type of cleaner with the Betta at the same time, but I tried it, and it really limits how the Betta moves in the pool
@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks, David. One more question. I currently run my pressure side cleaner daily. Would the Betta allow me to stop running the pressure side cleaner so often?
Yes, that's one of the main reasons why most people including myself, get these automatic skimmers. Makes less work and need to run a cleaner way less often.
I think you're talking about the paddle brush that spins in the lower front of it? The paddle is designed to help move water/debris that's collected behind it. Like it's for directing the flow of water. Without it, even more debris would escape out of it on turns and reversing
No if take basket out it's raise plastic circle not a flat bottom inside the basket. Must always use hose as raised black plastic circle inside basket prevents brushing out debris.
@@TommyJones49 The bottom center of the basket even has a circular holder that fits a three inch chlorine tab. The instructions don't mention it, so I'm not sure if the company wants to advertise it, but it holds a tablet perfectly.
@@imdefinitelydavid The bottom center of the basket even has a circular holder that fits a three inch chlorine tab. The instructions don't mention it, so I'm not sure if the company wants to advertise it, but it holds a tablet perfectly.
I purchased the Betta SE Plus…I like it much better than the Ariel I used to have BUT….when in reverse, small debris floats back into the pool, then sinks to the bottom. There is no check flap preventing this. 😒
The debris pickup in the demo seems really weak. My Ariel pool robot by Pivot Pool Products sucks in the debris with much more power since it has a front paddle wheel. Also the Ariel has a much nicer, better looking, simpler design. The only problem with the Ariel is that it is very unreliable, with internal mechanical parts failing all the time on the Ariel. A solar pool skimmer is one of the best pieces of pool equipment, but I just can't seem to find a good one. I'm stuck with either constantly repairing the Ariel, or buying this clunky and worse performing Betta SE Plus.
they need to put better solar panels on it. After 1 year ours is so oxidized from the sun it only runs for about 3 hours. bad investment if you have to replace it every 2 years.
I have 4 of these units and they all work great for about 3 months then they break. After you buy one and they come out with a new model they won't fix or replace the unit you already have. It's a wonderful idea but they truly have a"SUCK FACTOR OF 10". Do not buy!!!!!!! Your wasting your money. I've spent numerous dollars numerous dollars replacing them, sending them back for repair (When they will repair them), and shipping them. This company is in CA so it's expensive to do. Learn from my stupidity!!!!!!!!
I have the Betta SE model. The one before the new one featured in this video. I can 100% verify that it does not work when it’s cloudy ☁️ 🌥️ ☁️ I initially thought it was broken lol 😂 However, when it is sunny the Betta is AWESOME! It picks up everything and works all night long as well. I hardly ever skim the pool myself, so I love it for that. Anyone who is watching this video and considering to buy one, it’s 100% worth it.
I totally agree! 👍
100% agree, not only because you get a crystal clear pool, but it actually saves you money as you can reduce the pump time and still have crystal clear pool.
I have the same one, an 9:45 it's almost 2 1/2 years old and still kicking. I never close my pool. It runs every day. Love it!
100% agree. Might seem like an expensive gadget but if you want a crystal clear all year round and save money on your pump it’s a must have for people with a pool.
I live in SoCal so no issues really. When that happens I go manual skimmer
Thank you for the review, I have a lot of trees around my pool and I used to have to scoop the surface every day. Since having this I have not had to scoop the pool once. I live in California and the cleaner runs through the night as the pool is in full sun year round. I had a Polaris 280 cleaner, and found that the Betta was constantly getting caught up on the hose, so I purchased the Polaris Freedom cordless robotic cleaner and my pool has never been cleaner. Because of the Polaris freedom, I don’t have to run a separate booster pump, and it reaches every part of the pool including the tile line and thanks to the betta, I don’t need to put the Polaris in the pool every day.
That's my favorite combo for swim season! A cordless cleaner with the Betta makes it very easy to maintain the pool!
Hi Peter, what happens when the basket gets full? Does it still try to run or does it have a auto shut off in case it gets too full?
It will still try and run. As long as the battery is still charged it will still run. It won't damage the skimmer but you'll notice it because of all the debris it's probably pushing around in front of it.
Got the SE plus, love it, gets everything 👍🏼
I have a lot of leaves and yard debri that constantly blow in the pool. This is a game changer, don't even know where my pool net is now. It goes around the clock cleaning the surface. Wel worth the money
SE seems to be fine in Arizona all year round. Mine even makes it through the night. Love it!!!!
Same here in Florida, mine runs all night long, no issues with it, also no issues with shallow water
This was a very factual, informative video - and it convinced me to buy the Betta SE Plus after watching it. They ought to pay you!
I had to return my SE Plus. It would reverse, and start pushing debris out of the front, back into the pool. It did this every time it reversed. I hung on for a week and a half, hoping it would correct itself, but it still kept doing it. They should design it where impeller would disengage when it is reversing.
I have the non-auxiliary charging model. This skimmers work great. However, this is the 3rd skimmer I have owned, each of different brands, and none of them last an entire year without the batteries failing and the unit having to be returned for repair. This is the current status of my betta which has already been returned once during ownership. I’m going to see if it’s possible for me to replace the batteries myself this time around
Thank you for this awesome review! Just ordered this one! I’m so excited to have some of my time back! I’m constantly skimming our pool with a net.
You're welcome! I hope it works out well for you! 👍
My problem isnt so much skimming debris it is all the sand whipped up that wont get caught with a skimmer net...then settles to the bottom in dirt piles...my aquanaught 250 is random and always decides to skip the dirt piles would this pick up all the fine dirt on the top before it settles
If the dirt stays above the surface long enough and the skimmer happens to move over it yes, but you can't target it specifically.
I got one of these and it's amazing. Mine never gets stuck on stairs and I have no need to run it in the dark so the extra money for a Betta SE Plus.
Great review and demonstration of how effective it picks up various sized debris. I'm hoping it will pick up dog hair.
It should. As long as it floats on the surface it'll pick it up. 👍
Got the SE Plus...Love it...I'm addressing the bot getting stuck at the pool skimmer. Easy fix. Love it....
Same issue, to to stop it from getting stuck in skimmer
David,
Hello, and thank you for the review! I plan on purchasing this in a few weeks. Again, thank you for the transparency!
You're welcome! It works as well as the first version, but the plug-in charge option is great!
Hi Shamara! Don't know if you've purchased an SE Plus yet but I have another review on another solar pool skimmer from a different company coming soon. If you search SMONET SR5 SOLAR POOL SKIMMER on Amz you'll see which one I'm talking about!($100 cheaper than SE Plus)
@@imdefinitelydavid Hi David! I will definitely check out the skimmer you recommended. Thank you!
I use the Betta SE model and totally agree, this is a great product. I live in Australia and mine worked solid (even through the night, which is spooky seeing the green lights moving around your pool in the dark) for 2 days and now still works till 3-4am before waiting for the sun. I could even reduce my pool pump time as there was literally nothing on the bottom for the robot to collect, saving you money. Awesome product. Definitely recommend.
@@imdefinitelydavid can't find that video you are talking about the other pool skimmer.
Hi have you had issues with wind or the pool jets making it not work well? There are a few reviews on the new model on Amazon where people are complaining on the new model
Haven't had any issues with the jets running at the same time. I turned the pump off and it moves pretty much the same with or without.
Wind slowing it down is interesting. I mean it makes sense if you get a lot of wind. Like if I use my blower and blow the skimmer directly it'll slow it down. But that's the same for all skimmers.
I haven't had high winds here yet to test that but the SE Plus has been working well so far for me.
@@imdefinitelydavidthe reviews on Amazon were saying even with light winds and regular return flow it wouldn’t go around the whole pool . I messaged betta they said the se and se plus have the same motor so I’m wondering if there was a batch of defective ones that got back reviews.. will see when I order it later in April
I would have liked a little more of a review on the Strand bars, it's one of the new features and the reason I bought mine because I have a full length steps at the shallow end.
The bottom center of the basket even has a circular holder that fits a three inch chlorine tab. The instructions don't mention it, so I'm not sure if the company wants to advertise it, but it holds a tablet perfectly. Would be a great way to spread Chlorine. Unless it Breaks down the machine. Maybe something to Try David.
Yeah I've been noticing more of these skimmers with the circular insert inside, some even have a separate compartment for a chlorine tablet hidden. And none of them ever advertise it so I'm wondering why. I mean, it's definitely a nice extra feature that makes sense.
Good review, yet, be aware that the pump and skimmer filtration system needs to be OFF when running this or it gets stuck in the Skimmer.
The newest one comes with a piece of pool noodle to insert into skimmer so it wont do that.
David, can you comment on the issue of when it backs up it spits out some debris?
Mine backs up every 10 secs or so.
Just bought the SE (not plus) because I live in Florida and have excessive sunlight.
Nobody that does these reviews ever mentions that anything that floats in floats right back out when the stupid thing backs up. Why doesn’t that get mentioned?
This is my experience.
I returned mine for the same reason.
How well does it do at picking up leaves along the wall? That's where the leaves tend to accumulate.
Since the Betta begins to turn as it senses a wall, a lot of debris along the wall won't be picked up. However, when the Betta turns and moves it creates sort of a ripple movement effect in the water and debris along the wall will begin to move and hopefully away from the wall where the Betta will have another chance at picking up that debris later on.
Remember, these skimmers are made to be automatic and left alone to do the job over time. As long as you understand that they're slow working cleaners you'll be surprised how well the skimmers pick up debris.
Most likely a dumb question but will ask it anyways. With the Betta SE Plus, can I just put that in my pool and let it run all day and night if it has enough power to do so? I have it but I turn it off at night.
Yes, you can leave it in the pool 24/7! But depending on the season, it may or may not have enough power for the next day.
Summer/swim season will be great. It runs all day and night and you only really take it out when you need to empty it or if you go swimming. Because even though it runs through the night and uses the battery, by the time the sun rises it automatically starts recharging and keeps moving at the same time. And usually, will be fully charged again when the sun goes down. Love this during swim season!
But this is in optimal swim season. In the Fall and Winter you will definitely need to take it out and charge or turn it off before the evening to save power for the next day.
@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks for the reply. My worries are no more as I will let it run through the night. My pool does get sunlight and it should charge it. If it doesn't get enough charge, I will just take it out and charge it. Thanks again.
Yup. Best thing to do is just test it during the non summer months. Glad I could help!
Thanks for the review. Have you tested the maximum distance that the remote can still control the Betta SE Plus? It would be nice to sit on my sun porch and still be able to control the unit.
Haven't specifically measured the distance but I can control it as far as I can see it in the pool if that makes sense. I'll have to test that soon.
Thanks.@@imdefinitelydavid
Sorry to take so long to get back to you! I measured the distance to about 15 feet.
Thanks for taking the time to measure. I was hoping for a little longer distance so I could be lazy and sit on my sun porch overlooking my pool, maybe 25-30 feet away. Guess I'll wait and see.@@imdefinitelydavid
Looks like a printer, scanner combo lol. Thanks for the videos and helping me decide
Glad the videos helped! 😃
Is it possible to replace the battery? Or do you need an entire new unit when it goes? I’m only open during the swim season in New England, and wondering how many seasons I’d get from this if it can’t be replaced?
Well they don't even sell the battery by itself so I'd assume you'd have to send it to them to replace and for that cost, probably better off getting a new one. The battery is inside the cleaner and hard to reach without taking pieces apart
@@imdefinitelydavid I decided to see how it goes and ordered the s5. I figure the remote features on the others, it would practically be faster to just grab the net at that point, so I went with the s5.
I had a model from a different mfg. That robot skimmer would constantly get stuck on the bottom auto cleaner hose. I noticed you pulled your cleaner out for your video. Does yours get stuck on the hose or does it avoid it?
Oh when I filmed this the sun was going down and the hose to my side cleaner was stuck so I pulled it out of the pool and left it connected while I put the skimmer in.
Technically, most manufacturers recommend not using ANY other cleaner in the pool at the same time as the skimmer. But from my testing, there is an exception but only with a cordless robotic cleaner.
So you can use a cordless robotic cleaner at the same time as a pool skimmer and be perfectly fine. I've tested skimmers before with cleaners attached to a hose or cord and it always gets stuck. Only cordless works well
Thank you for the video! How does it do with bugs? Are the bugs able to get out of the trap and does it collect the little bugs as well as larger ones? Thx
As long as the skimmer is moving, debris doesn't escape out of it. However, when it slows down around a wall/corner or reverse out of a tight spot, the brush/paddle that spins in the front slows down or stops if there's no power.
When this happens, a majority of the debris stays inside the basket but some can flow out of it. Even if it was off the entire day, i'd say less than 5% of debris really escape.
And yes, it captures small and big bugs as well. I've even pulled these skimmers open and found a bird inside before.
Does this work better than the Betta SE? I’m seeing mixed early reports on Amazon saying this lacks the speed/momentum that the SE has for adequate retrieval. Maybe because it is lighter or less powerful motor?
In terms of speed, the SE and SE Plus move at the same speed. Both models weigh the same and both use the same motors. I don't understand why one would be slower aside from maybe a defective skimmer.
@@imdefinitelydavidokay I just posted a similar question almost seems like the new model has weaker motors any experience on your end?
I’m wondering the same the reviews on Amazon for the se plus seem to indicate that the new model has motor issues but I like the idea of being able to charge overnight
@@imdefinitelydavid so if the ounces matter, the new model is slightly heavier. Seems that @kevinsullivan634 is reading the same literature. The "wind comment" on the new model is also an interesting one.
My Betts SE plus gets stuck on the cord for the pressure pump cleaner. I see you removed your cleaner for the test.
The Betta, like every other automatic skimmer right now, does not recommend that you use it at the same time as any corded/hose cleaner. Mainly because all of these skimmers' sensors detect the cord and hoses as debris and try to suck it up rather than an object to avoid and get around. That's why I moved the side cleaner out.
just ordered my Betta Se Plus 👍🏾
...Great Job David !! ... I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers (I just became one)... Thanks !!
Thank you!
Does this have a timer? Like can I just leave it in the pool (like a floaty), let it charge solarly and have it turn on automatically everyday for 4 hours?
I wish it did. It would be great if you could. There are no skimmers on the marker right now with a timer. But when one is released, I'd definitely get it.
I just bought this model and it’s charging now. The owners manual says to not use it with other pool cleaning devices. I have 2 robotic bottom cleaning devices, Apier Seagull SE. Can I use these at the same time with the skimmer? Thank you for any assistance
Yes you can. They mean not to use it with corded cleaners with a plug that goes into the outlet to power it or hose cleaners like a suction cleaner that has a hose floating in the pool. This is because the skimmers don't sense the cord or hoses as obstacles. They think it's debris and try to suck it in and so gets caught in it instead of get around it.
I've used all these skimmers with cordless cleaners and they work just fine. You should be fine especially with a floor cleaner that doesn't climb up the wall. And even if it did, I've watched my cordless wall climbers hit the skimmer at the right time, and it's fine, no damage and just continues along the way cleaning.
@@imdefinitelydavid Thank you very much. Also, thank you for your videos
Do you know if this is an upgrade from the Betta 2? My Betta 2 died after about 3 years and I’m not sure if I should order another one or this one.
The SE Plus is the current version so yes, it's the upgraded version. It has better sensors but the motors/propellers I'd say are the same. It also now has an extra charging option where you can use it like the Betta 2 with solar power exclusively but also, you can take it out and charge it in a power outlet too for cloudy/no sun days.
@@imdefinitelydavid I never had a problem, running the betta 2 On cloudy and rainy days. It always held a good charge. Do you think the new one will hold up the same?
I have the Betta of last year and this plus version and it pretty much feels like the same skimmer. So I would assume it's the same quality. Still pretty new to see how well it holds up
We have a fountain attachment in our above ground pool that runs all day. Do you know if it is safe for the betta to continuously go through the water fall all day? I know it’s Water proof but didn’t know if that would have any lasting effects on the solar panel.
That's a good question. I occasionally spray my skimmers with a water hose to wash off the dirt on top of the solar panels. This helps to keep the panels free from dirt and allows more sunlight to be captured. I wouldn't think that continuous water from a waterfall would damage it as long as the skimmer isn't fully submerged underwater.
Are you going to do a review of the aiper robotic skimmer?
I have, please check it out! 👍
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Excellent, informative review. Thank you
Just got this 2 wks ago and it doesn’t seem to be picking up debris. Any thoughts?
And it does get stuck on the steps. 😕
Does the skimmer move at all? Like you can see it moving so the paddle should be spinning and picking up debris.
On the bottom of the skimmer there are these two bars, one on each side, called anti-strand bars. If the skimmer gets stuck on the steps you can extend the bar further out so that it doesn't go over the steps. You have to push the tabs to lower or raise the bars.
@@imdefinitelydavidYes it does move all about the pool. It looks like it is picking up but basket is about empty.
I will try that with the feet of the skimmer. Thxs!
Does it switch from solar to battery power on its own (or vice versa)?
Yes, as long as the power switch is flipped to the ON position it's all automatic. Will run until the battery drains and absorb sunlight when available. If not enough sunlight(for instance, at night) it will stay off until the next morning when there is enough sunlight to charge itself and then turn back on automatically.
@@imdefinitelydavid does the solar power recharge that battery (that isn’t equipped with the SE) or is that a completely separate power bank?
It's one battery unit. They just made it so that you can charge it with the sun and/or with adapter option. But it's the same battery. There isn't two on the Plus version.
How long does battery last after plug in ?
Well it depends on how much sun you get. If used during swim season, the Betta runs 24/7 because of all the sunlight. But in the winter and fall with less sun it'll turn itself off and on accordingly to charge
I just got mine & so far it’s great. I like the Beta SE plus that I can charge because I run it mostly at night when the pool light is on so it picks up the bugs the pool light attracts. My skimmers do a good job job - but this guy picks the bugs and nats faster. So far I really like it!
Mine keeps getting stuck on hose or canister. Solution?
All of these skimmers are designed to work without other corded cleaners in the pool. Otherwise, like you're experiencing, they get caught up in the cord/hose. Technically, you're supposed to remove the hose cleaner each time, but I know it's not convenient at all. The only real way around it right now, unfortunately, is to use a cordless cleaner with these skimmers.
How’s the filter option. Like a robot wall and floor cleaner filter. Get micron finer filter
They're all normal fine filters, none of these skimmers have an ultra-fine.
@@imdefinitelydavid going to run this with the quantum. thanks for the help!
Can you run the pressure side cleaner at the same time as the betta?
I've tried it before, but the Betta gets caught in the hose a lot. Especially if the pressure cleaner is on and moving at the same time. Technically, you're not supposed to use a corded type of cleaner with the Betta at the same time, but I tried it, and it really limits how the Betta moves in the pool
@@imdefinitelydavid Thanks, David. One more question. I currently run my pressure side cleaner daily. Would the Betta allow me to stop running the pressure side cleaner so often?
Yes, that's one of the main reasons why most people including myself, get these automatic skimmers. Makes less work and need to run a cleaner way less often.
Why in the middle of the basket theres a raised plastic circle??? Unable to brush debris out.
I think you're talking about the paddle brush that spins in the lower front of it?
The paddle is designed to help move water/debris that's collected behind it. Like it's for directing the flow of water. Without it, even more debris would escape out of it on turns and reversing
No if take basket out it's raise plastic circle not a flat bottom inside the basket. Must always use hose as raised black plastic circle inside basket prevents brushing out debris.
@@TommyJones49 The bottom center of the basket even has a circular holder that fits a three inch chlorine tab. The instructions don't mention it, so I'm not sure if the company wants to advertise it, but it holds a tablet perfectly.
@@imdefinitelydavid The bottom center of the basket even has a circular holder that fits a three inch chlorine tab. The instructions don't mention it, so I'm not sure if the company wants to advertise it, but it holds a tablet perfectly.
@brucethebarguy not sure plastic and screen can hold up to the harshness of chlorine tablets, but interesting, thanks.
Can I charge this machine on 220v?
No. I'm almost certain it's not rated to hold a 220v. It will likely fry the skimmer
I purchased the Betta SE Plus…I like it much better than the Ariel I used to have BUT….when in reverse, small debris floats back into the pool, then sinks to the bottom. There is no check flap preventing this. 😒
I returned mine for the same reason.
The debris pickup in the demo seems really weak. My Ariel pool robot by Pivot Pool Products sucks in the debris with much more power since it has a front paddle wheel. Also the Ariel has a much nicer, better looking, simpler design. The only problem with the Ariel is that it is very unreliable, with internal mechanical parts failing all the time on the Ariel. A solar pool skimmer is one of the best pieces of pool equipment, but I just can't seem to find a good one. I'm stuck with either constantly repairing the Ariel, or buying this clunky and worse performing Betta SE Plus.
Wish it came in Smonet Blue
they need to put better solar panels on it. After 1 year ours is so oxidized from the sun it only runs for about 3 hours. bad investment if you have to replace it every 2 years.
I have 4 of these units and they all work great for about 3 months then they break. After you buy one and they come out with a new model they won't fix or replace the unit you already have. It's a wonderful idea but they truly have a"SUCK FACTOR OF 10". Do not buy!!!!!!! Your wasting your money. I've spent numerous dollars numerous dollars replacing them, sending them back for repair (When they will repair them), and shipping them. This company is in CA so it's expensive to do. Learn from my stupidity!!!!!!!!
No issues with mine
😂so it's basically the pool vacuum of iPhones
Did you get the se plus?
Is this thing made in China?
Are there any American made brands?
I'm almost certain all of the brands are made outside the US. Haven't heard of any American made ones yet.