Thank you, Mark. This horrible perfectionism has taken me over. It's a if the only way to stop trying to fix myself is to cease to exist. I just want to be held in a Father's loving arms.
Thank you. I so needed to hear that. I was just going around in my latest thinking spiral of wanting to truly let go of all my worldly and fleshly desires as God wants our lives to be "hidden in Christ" and to be completely surrendered to Him. Then I would spot areas where I am not fully surrendered, buy another unnecessary item of clothing and feel like I've failed and that I am completely self seeking. And then there are the bible verses like "Be perfect as I am perfect". Gulp. The bible is full of paradoxes like abiding and being still and filled with the peace of God; and then running the race to looking to obtain the prize, having no continuing city here and walking worthy of the calling to which you have been called. These verses pull my mind in so many different directions and I have no peace looking to my own performance; which sucks. Your statement about first being loved and not fixed really puts an end to that endless conundrum. I'm going to try it, even though it feels cavalier and almost reckless to my Sergeant Major mind.
See… Yes makes me feel like there’s something wrong with me. I can very clearly see the mindset problems. But being told that I need to learn how to receive God‘s love doesn’t help me. I’ve known that for years, and I’m desperate for that. What I need more than anything else for someone to help me figure out how to get there. How to do it. My mindset can’t change just because someone’s telling me it’s wrong it’s wrong it’s wrong. I know it’s wrong. I know God‘s love is what I need more than anything else. I know in my head that God loves me, I need to experience that in my heart that I don’t know how. 😢
The standard scripture speaks of for perfection is variable on each person's ability. So, it is possible to be "perfect" in conscience according the knowledge you possess and yet still have room to grow. You need more fear of the Lord to grow. Focusing on how much God loves you is what selfish people do. But, focusing on loving God is what will synergize your relationship with Him.
You single-handedly destroyed my fear based relationship with Jesus and now I feel this joy which I've never ever felt with when pursuing Him. You are different from 95% of these other pastors. I hope you are aware of that!
Fear based relationship is correct. But, perfect love (from you) casts out all fear. The fear of the Lord will continue as He leads you into deeper and deeper sanctification. But, as you follow the HS will grant you immeasurable joy and many spiritual confirmations as you obey.
I literally was talking to god in prayer today and said “lord, the only way I’ll ever be able to please you is if I repent right now and you take my life from me, because I’m going to mess up as soon as this prayer is over, rest assured.” I feel like I’m taking advantage of grace because of how much I ask to be forgiven in a single day, I am new and I know god sees me trying, but it is incredibly difficult and I want to just switch overnight and it’s not happening. I am aware that I can atleast recognize what is not good and what is and that I do feel repentant in my heart about my failures. I definitely overthink as well tho
Hey there Mark, God bless you abundantly. This ocd healing transformation Journey is really a journey inside a journey. Your ocd healing book feels more like a reference book study. I find it really great.
Intrusive thoughts made me a perfectionist and it made me condemn myself so much to the point that I do not have a good laugh anymore, but when I saw that I became this toxic person in myself God made me know him more.
God bless you Mark for making these videos! I’ve had OCD since I was a child (and now also exhausting religious OCD & intensified perfectionism the past few years) and nothing else has come close to how helpful your material is! I see a Christian therapist who has extensive education in OCD and told her about your content- she was blown away by your biblical knowledge and insight on the mind/OCD. I’ve watched many of your videos in the past couple months (and plan on watching the rest in due time) and though I’m at a place in my journey where I’m still deep in my battles (learning to be gentle through the journey though) I’m applying what you’re teaching in my life and I’m understanding more and more the advice and insight you give and how it’s so incredibly helpful. Renewal of the mind definitely isn’t an overnight process, but with your insight you freely give; I truly feel the victory is on the way. It feels as if God is speaking through you. I’m so thankful you are helping myself and others on this heart healing journey! May God bless you and your family for the Kingdom work you do 🙏🏼
Praise God for his neverending love and effort to reach out for and to His people! I therefore bind to hell one focusing too much on one's weaknesses in my life, the lives of my family, friends, colleagues, neighbours, acquitances, opponents and the body of Christ while binding one to reckon how to strengthen oneself or another and binding one to know one is loved by God despite one's sins and flaws, binding to hell every unequal yoke and common share with anyone focusing too much on one's weaknesses while lacking to reckon how to strengthen oneself or another and lacking to know one is loved by God despite one's sins and flaws, in accordance with this word and 2 corinthians 12:9, galatians 6:1, 1 thessalonians 5:11, romans 5:8, 2 corinthians 6:14-18 in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah, glory to God ❤!
Matthew 5:48, 1Peter 1:25. We are called to perfection and holiness, like He is perfect and holy. The answer is not to avoid seeking perfection, but to remember God loves you even though you are imperfect. That feeling might just be the Holy Spirit convicting you of sin. Just confess your sin and He will forgive you.1 John 1:9.
Amen, the bible does tell us that we are called upon to try to be perfect and holy. Mark knows that and has talked about that in different videos. He's just talking about the christians who try to be perfectionist. Who are obsessed with doing everything right, never messing up and when they do they drown in guilt, self pity etc. That's difference between trying to be perfect/holy and perfectionism.
Was laughing to myself as before the questions started i was like im bettin i got all 21 questions answered to yes lol. Mark youre a blessing bud and i recently ordered your book bout rejection mindset. Ty so much for putting these vids / topics out there! Edit - was right btw. So glad you gave the answer to this at the end of the vid.
thank you for this. I just got diagnosed with OCD. I can see so much of myself in these signs. My biggest problem has been something I saw as a mistake, that wasn't really a mistake (making a choice between two good things but doubting my choice afterwards).
I LOVE all your teachings. They do a great job of illustrating the problems. My biggest problem isn’t recognizing the problem, it’s HOW to fix it. Do you ever teach on HOW to begin to receive God’s love??? Something tangible and practical… something we can apply so we can FINALLY begin to heal.
Fear God and stop sinning. Ps 25:14 The secret of the LORD is for those who fear Him, And He will make them know His covenant. Stop trying to get something from God and seek to bless him with your obedience. And, don't focus on all the things you fail at...because mistakes aren't willful sin. It is only willful sin that separates us from God. But, do your best to love God and neighbor with a pure conscience and deny your selfish desires that will harm others. Do that and the HS will give you experiences of elation, joy, peace, etc
Why should it be "enough?" Maybe instead of focusing on FEELING GOOD it would be better to focus on DOING GOOD. Saints are supposed to die to self. This is the doctrine that Jude and Peter warned about... -------------------------------- He quotes this... Heb 13:5 Let your character be free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, “I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU,” But the author of Hebrews is quoting from... Deut 31:6 “Be strong and courageous, do not be afraid or tremble at them, for the LORD your God is the one who goes with you. He will not fail you or forsake you.” Deut 31:8 “And the LORD is the one who goes ahead of you; He will be with you. He will not fail you or forsake you. Do not fear, or be dismayed.” But, most so called Christian teachers these days are either too lazy to keep reading the context or are just lying to people... Deut 31:16 And the LORD said to Moses, “Behold, you are about to lie down with your fathers; and this people will arise and play the harlot with the strange gods of the land, into the midst of which they are going, and will forsake Me and break My covenant which I have made with them. >>>>>> Deut 31:17 “Then My anger will be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them and hide My face from them,
I'm starting to watch. Can you from community help me with intrusive thoughts about not having faith? I feel like I don't have it. I've never been looking for God all my life and I turned to Him only 3 years ago during another anxiety relapse. And I feel so hopeless cose I don't know if I have faith, I know I want to so much, I read Scripture, pray and go to church. But I feel I'm not there and I feel condemned and that I have hardened heart and won't find God. And I put all my hope in finding Him. But I turn to Him for egoistic reason - to get healed. And it's another thought that's torturing me - lack of faith and selfish reason. Can any of you give me any advice? Sorry for my English -it's not my native language. God bless you all!
It's impossible not to come to God for selfish reasons my friend, please don't let that condemn you. We are all desperately needy people, and He desires to love us and provide for us to fill our need. Be careful not to put faith in your faith, because that will leave you second guessing yourself all the time. Faith as small as a mustard seed is all you need my friend. Christ is your anchor, not your faith. Rest in the peace He has provided for you. There is nothing for you to do except acknowledge your need, turn from your sin and trust that Christ has done everything for you. If He was willing to die for your sin, He is more than willing to walk with you in your mess on your path to healing too. God bless you
I must admit I fast forwarded to find all the questions; and find im at the 75% mark on most of them; not all of them. some questions dont even register with me, but most do. as i get older i tend not to beat myself up for my laziness/imperfections on some items.
This is complete mockery of real Christianity. If anyone is sincere I'll engage but this is so unbiblical it would require a massive amount of time to refute. I hope people will compare what he says against scripture. Jesus said... Matt 10:28 “And do not fear those who kill the body, but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. Matt 10:33 “But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven. Matt 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. Matt 10:35 “For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW; Matt 10:36 and A MAN’S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD. Matt 10:37 “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. Matt 10:38 “And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. Matt 10:39 “He who has found his life shall lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake shall find it. ------------------------------- He is literally teaching people to deny the HS conviction. When you are suffering from guilt the solution is NOT to find ear tickling ideas to make yourself feel better. The solution is to TEST YOURSELF to see if you're in the faith as scripture teaches. To TAKE HEED when you stand lest you fall. To embrace suffering not be a coward and run from suffering. The fear of the Lord is a beautiful empowering thing and when we submit our heart and desires to the Lord and seek to obey him from a pure heart THAT is when the HS will comfort us. Not before.
@@ovld2023 The Devil in the garden told Eve, "thou shalt NOT surely die" when she sinned. The HS says, "the one who sins shall surely die. Fear the one who can kill your body and soul in Hell and repent." So, the Devil wants us to minimize sin and FEEL safe/secure in sin. The HS wants us to feel unsafe/insecure in sin. What happens when a person feels despair, hopelessness, etc? They've hit rock bottom and they need help. That is the moment they are supposed to CRY OUT TO GOD for help to receive mercy. However, in the moment if they continue to harden their heart then the HS withdraws eventually, and they are given over the Devil to "sift as wheat." That is a completely fallen state where Paul says, "I've given such a one over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh so that his soul may be saved." Even in that fallen/depraved state there is a tiny bit of hope. ------------------ That said, we are supposed to be talking about CHRISTIANS who obey Christ. No one even wants to admit that people who don't obey Christ are NOT Christian. And, on top of that, this man is teaching people to DENY the HS when they feel that uneasiness and doubt. Instead of crying out to God they are going to continue in sin and inflate their narcissim. Why would the Devil tell a believer that you're not saved or God hates you, etc? That would backfire because the believer would go to God for comfort. An unbeliever who is in ignorance might fall for that trick of the Devil. A believer shouldn't...unless Churches are telling people they are believers even when they sin everyday. THEN you have a perfect storm of deception. And that IS what is happening. The Churches promise freedom while they themselves are slaves of destruction.
@@marktdejesus Hey Mark. I'm surprised you responded. I have some serious concerns with some of what you've shared in this video. I was grieved. Are you interested in hearing my critiques?
@@ovld2023 The topic is sinless perfection. I believe we can stop sinning in this life and I have never obtained more peace than when I finally submitted to the idea that we can stop sinning. And, I've never obtained more victory over sin than through the fear of the Lord. So, you can CLAIM he is speaking about demonic condemnation. But, I'm telling you that it is being taught that the conviction of the HS is demonic condemnation. How do I know? Because we have tests in scripture. And, once again the topic is vs sinless perfection. ------------------------ The fruit of the Spirit requires tilling up the fallow ground (conviction), planting the seed (word of God), watering (blessing/grace), weeding and removing stones (removing sin), and God causes the growth and gives as He decides. THEN you receive fruit. I know the difference between a OSAS lifestyles and a Holiness lifestyle. Most OSAS adherents don't know what they are missing because they aren't obedient to Christ.
It feels terrifying facing the ways that I am imperfect and cannot fix myself…scarier yet to abandon myself to the love and care of the Father (I struggle to even write MY Fathwr). To trust that He will transform me into who He wants me to be…
One of my favorite Scriptures is Jeremiah 33:3 - Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known. For me the answer has been this verse and several others but we really need to ask God about our perceived or real inadequacies...we need to ask Him! The above verse tells us that. I know for myself, I was always listening to others opinion or judgement of what my life was, even pastors can be misleading as well-meaning as they are. Who knows like God? Who really knows what we should or shouldn't be? Ask Him and He will tell you in the most loving and gentle way. He will tell you and help you to find the right path and help you walk it with Him. You will have so much peace! Like Jesus says, His burden is light...He will give you rest. Ask Him how much you should read, or pray or witness! After all, we will stand before Him and answer for our lives, not our pastor, our neighbor or friends, or mother or father, brother, sister, husband, wife, stranger...we will stand before Christ and give an account to Him. So let's go to Him for the answers to all of our questions and concerns. Nothing is too big or too small. Peace to all.
Hi Mark. For your slide 3 about not praying, reading the word enough... How did you get to the place where you were able to know and feel God's love real in your life? How did you get there?
The title should be, "Are You a Perfectionistic Christian?" Perfectionism or being perfectionist is a personality attribute. Christian Perfectionism is a Wesleyan doctrine, also known as entire sanctification. Perfectionistic tendencies say "I must be perfect." Christian Perfectionism says, "I can become (or have become) sinless."
It is just Bible. 1John 3:3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure. 1John 3:4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness. 1John 3:5 And you know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin. 1John 3:6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him. 1John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous; 1John 3:8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1John 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
Slowly raises 🖐️ but I appreciate the transformation God is doing from this.
Thank you, Mark. This horrible perfectionism has taken me over. It's a if the only way to stop trying to fix myself is to cease to exist. I just want to be held in a Father's loving arms.
Mark you are helping a lot of people with your videos. God bless✝️🕊
Thank you. I so needed to hear that. I was just going around in my latest thinking spiral of wanting to truly let go of all my worldly and fleshly desires as God wants our lives to be "hidden in Christ" and to be completely surrendered to Him. Then I would spot areas where I am not fully surrendered, buy another unnecessary item of clothing and feel like I've failed and that I am completely self seeking. And then there are the bible verses like "Be perfect as I am perfect". Gulp. The bible is full of paradoxes like abiding and being still and filled with the peace of God; and then running the race to looking to obtain the prize, having no continuing city here and walking worthy of the calling to which you have been called. These verses pull my mind in so many different directions and I have no peace looking to my own performance; which sucks. Your statement about first being loved and not fixed really puts an end to that endless conundrum. I'm going to try it, even though it feels cavalier and almost reckless to my Sergeant Major mind.
Very relatable! Thank you for your honesty and taking the time to share. God bless
So good, thanks for sharing this Mark.
See… Yes makes me feel like there’s something wrong with me. I can very clearly see the mindset problems. But being told that I need to learn how to receive God‘s love doesn’t help me. I’ve known that for years, and I’m desperate for that. What I need more than anything else for someone to help me figure out how to get there. How to do it. My mindset can’t change just because someone’s telling me it’s wrong it’s wrong it’s wrong. I know it’s wrong. I know God‘s love is what I need more than anything else. I know in my head that God loves me, I need to experience that in my heart that I don’t know how. 😢
The standard scripture speaks of for perfection is variable on each person's ability. So, it is possible to be "perfect" in conscience according the knowledge you possess and yet still have room to grow.
You need more fear of the Lord to grow. Focusing on how much God loves you is what selfish people do. But, focusing on loving God is what will synergize your relationship with Him.
You single-handedly destroyed my fear based relationship with Jesus and now I feel this joy which I've never ever felt with when pursuing Him.
You are different from 95% of these other pastors. I hope you are aware of that!
Fear based relationship is correct. But, perfect love (from you) casts out all fear.
The fear of the Lord will continue as He leads you into deeper and deeper sanctification. But, as you follow the HS will grant you immeasurable joy and many spiritual confirmations as you obey.
I literally was talking to god in prayer today and said “lord, the only way I’ll ever be able to please you is if I repent right now and you take my life from me, because I’m going to mess up as soon as this prayer is over, rest assured.”
I feel like I’m taking advantage of grace because of how much I ask to be forgiven in a single day, I am new and I know god sees me trying, but it is incredibly difficult and I want to just switch overnight and it’s not happening. I am aware that I can atleast recognize what is not good and what is and that I do feel repentant in my heart about my failures. I definitely overthink as well tho
Hey there Mark, God bless you abundantly. This ocd healing transformation Journey is really a journey inside a journey. Your ocd healing book feels more like a reference book study. I find it really great.
Intrusive thoughts made me a perfectionist and it made me condemn myself so much to the point that I do not have a good laugh anymore, but when I saw that I became this toxic person in myself God made me know him more.
God bless you Mark for making these videos! I’ve had OCD since I was a child (and now also exhausting religious OCD & intensified perfectionism the past few years) and nothing else has come close to how helpful your material is! I see a Christian therapist who has extensive education in OCD and told her about your content- she was blown away by your biblical knowledge and insight on the mind/OCD. I’ve watched many of your videos in the past couple months (and plan on watching the rest in due time) and though I’m at a place in my journey where I’m still deep in my battles (learning to be gentle through the journey though) I’m applying what you’re teaching in my life and I’m understanding more and more the advice and insight you give and how it’s so incredibly helpful. Renewal of the mind definitely isn’t an overnight process, but with your insight you freely give; I truly feel the victory is on the way. It feels as if God is speaking through you. I’m so thankful you are helping myself and others on this heart healing journey! May God bless you and your family for the Kingdom work you do 🙏🏼
Well said Steph! Thank you for sharing a bit about your journey. It also looks like you've definitely got the gift of encouragement. God bless you
@@HisBelovedSon70x7 Thank you so much! God bless you
This was a blessing!
God bless you Mark. Thank you for the life giving messages.
We are so blessed to have these videos!
This is such a great resource. Thank you for allowing God to lead you in exposing this toxic mindset!
Praise God for his neverending love and effort to reach out for and to His people! I therefore bind to hell one focusing too much on one's weaknesses in my life, the lives of my family, friends, colleagues, neighbours, acquitances, opponents and the body of Christ while binding one to reckon how to strengthen oneself or another and binding one to know one is loved by God despite one's sins and flaws, binding to hell every unequal yoke and common share with anyone focusing too much on one's weaknesses while lacking to reckon how to strengthen oneself or another and lacking to know one is loved by God despite one's sins and flaws, in accordance with this word and 2 corinthians 12:9, galatians 6:1, 1 thessalonians 5:11, romans 5:8, 2 corinthians 6:14-18 in the name and blood of Jesus Christ, amen and hallelujah, glory to God ❤!
I find I relate to a lot of these things on the list.
Matthew 5:48, 1Peter 1:25. We are called to perfection and holiness, like He is perfect and holy. The answer is not to avoid seeking perfection, but to remember God loves you even though you are imperfect. That feeling might just be the Holy Spirit convicting you of sin. Just confess your sin and He will forgive you.1 John 1:9.
Amen, the bible does tell us that we are called upon to try to be perfect and holy. Mark knows that and has talked about that in different videos. He's just talking about the christians who try to be perfectionist. Who are obsessed with doing everything right, never messing up and when they do they drown in guilt, self pity etc. That's difference between trying to be perfect/holy and perfectionism.
Was laughing to myself as before the questions started i was like im bettin i got all 21 questions answered to yes lol. Mark youre a blessing bud and i recently ordered your book bout rejection mindset. Ty so much for putting these vids / topics out there!
Edit - was right btw.
So glad you gave the answer to this at the end of the vid.
Laughing (externally) while crying (internally) all while repeatedly checking my comment for grammatical errors, hits post (reluctantly)
thank you for this. I just got diagnosed with OCD. I can see so much of myself in these signs. My biggest problem has been something I saw as a mistake, that wasn't really a mistake (making a choice between two good things but doubting my choice afterwards).
can you say what exactly?
Yes!!!
Wow! False Doctrine of Perfectionism. You have just exposed the lie.
Not really. He straw manned the truth.
I LOVE all your teachings. They do a great job of illustrating the problems. My biggest problem isn’t recognizing the problem, it’s HOW to fix it.
Do you ever teach on HOW to begin to receive God’s love???
Something tangible and practical… something we can apply so we can FINALLY begin to heal.
Fear God and stop sinning.
Ps 25:14 The secret of the LORD is for those who fear Him, And He will make them know His covenant.
Stop trying to get something from God and seek to bless him with your obedience. And, don't focus on all the things you fail at...because mistakes aren't willful sin. It is only willful sin that separates us from God. But, do your best to love God and neighbor with a pure conscience and deny your selfish desires that will harm others.
Do that and the HS will give you experiences of elation, joy, peace, etc
Why should it be "enough?"
Maybe instead of focusing on FEELING GOOD it would be better to focus on DOING GOOD.
Saints are supposed to die to self. This is the doctrine that Jude and Peter warned about...
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He quotes this...
Heb 13:5 Let your character be free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, “I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU,”
But the author of Hebrews is quoting from...
Deut 31:6 “Be strong and courageous, do not be afraid or tremble at them, for the LORD your God is the one who goes with you. He will not fail you or forsake you.”
Deut 31:8 “And the LORD is the one who goes ahead of you; He will be with you. He will not fail you or forsake you. Do not fear, or be dismayed.”
But, most so called Christian teachers these days are either too lazy to keep reading the context or are just lying to people...
Deut 31:16 And the LORD said to Moses, “Behold, you are about to lie down with your fathers; and this people will arise and play the harlot with the strange gods of the land, into the midst of which they are going, and will forsake Me and break My covenant which I have made with them.
>>>>>>
Deut 31:17 “Then My anger will be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them and hide My face from them,
I'm starting to watch. Can you from community help me with intrusive thoughts about not having faith? I feel like I don't have it. I've never been looking for God all my life and I turned to Him only 3 years ago during another anxiety relapse. And I feel so hopeless cose I don't know if I have faith, I know I want to so much, I read Scripture, pray and go to church. But I feel I'm not there and I feel condemned and that I have hardened heart and won't find God. And I put all my hope in finding Him. But I turn to Him for egoistic reason - to get healed. And it's another thought that's torturing me - lack of faith and selfish reason. Can any of you give me any advice? Sorry for my English -it's not my native language.
God bless you all!
It's impossible not to come to God for selfish reasons my friend, please don't let that condemn you. We are all desperately needy people, and He desires to love us and provide for us to fill our need.
Be careful not to put faith in your faith, because that will leave you second guessing yourself all the time. Faith as small as a mustard seed is all you need my friend. Christ is your anchor, not your faith.
Rest in the peace He has provided for you. There is nothing for you to do except acknowledge your need, turn from your sin and trust that Christ has done everything for you. If He was willing to die for your sin, He is more than willing to walk with you in your mess on your path to healing too.
God bless you
@@HisBelovedSon70x7 Thank you so much! I'll be keep on going. Pray for me please, there are many things I don't understand.
Exactly
Thank you for this teaching , I needed every last word of it 🌱💜🙏🏾
When I say have every single one of these
How can I talk to you I need help?
I must admit I fast forwarded to find all the questions; and find im at the 75% mark on most of them; not all of them. some questions dont even register with me, but most do. as i get older i tend not to beat myself up for my laziness/imperfections on some items.
This is complete mockery of real Christianity. If anyone is sincere I'll engage but this is so unbiblical it would require a massive amount of time to refute.
I hope people will compare what he says against scripture. Jesus said...
Matt 10:28 “And do not fear those who kill the body, but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Matt 10:33 “But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
Matt 10:34 “Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
Matt 10:35 “For I came to SET A MAN AGAINST HIS FATHER, AND A DAUGHTER AGAINST HER MOTHER, AND A DAUGHTER-IN-LAW AGAINST HER MOTHER-IN-LAW;
Matt 10:36 and A MAN’S ENEMIES WILL BE THE MEMBERS OF HIS HOUSEHOLD.
Matt 10:37 “He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
Matt 10:38 “And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me.
Matt 10:39 “He who has found his life shall lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake shall find it.
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He is literally teaching people to deny the HS conviction. When you are suffering from guilt the solution is NOT to find ear tickling ideas to make yourself feel better. The solution is to TEST YOURSELF to see if you're in the faith as scripture teaches. To TAKE HEED when you stand lest you fall. To embrace suffering not be a coward and run from suffering.
The fear of the Lord is a beautiful empowering thing and when we submit our heart and desires to the Lord and seek to obey him from a pure heart THAT is when the HS will comfort us. Not before.
@@ovld2023
The Devil in the garden told Eve, "thou shalt NOT surely die" when she sinned.
The HS says, "the one who sins shall surely die. Fear the one who can kill your body and soul in Hell and repent."
So, the Devil wants us to minimize sin and FEEL safe/secure in sin.
The HS wants us to feel unsafe/insecure in sin.
What happens when a person feels despair, hopelessness, etc? They've hit rock bottom and they need help. That is the moment they are supposed to CRY OUT TO GOD for help to receive mercy.
However, in the moment if they continue to harden their heart then the HS withdraws eventually, and they are given over the Devil to "sift as wheat."
That is a completely fallen state where Paul says, "I've given such a one over to Satan for the destruction of his flesh so that his soul may be saved."
Even in that fallen/depraved state there is a tiny bit of hope.
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That said, we are supposed to be talking about CHRISTIANS who obey Christ. No one even wants to admit that people who don't obey Christ are NOT Christian.
And, on top of that, this man is teaching people to DENY the HS when they feel that uneasiness and doubt. Instead of crying out to God they are going to continue in sin and inflate their narcissim.
Why would the Devil tell a believer that you're not saved or God hates you, etc? That would backfire because the believer would go to God for comfort.
An unbeliever who is in ignorance might fall for that trick of the Devil. A believer shouldn't...unless Churches are telling people they are believers even when they sin everyday. THEN you have a perfect storm of deception.
And that IS what is happening.
The Churches promise freedom while they themselves are slaves of destruction.
I have videos on conviction too. 😊
@@marktdejesus Hey Mark. I'm surprised you responded. I have some serious concerns with some of what you've shared in this video. I was grieved.
Are you interested in hearing my critiques?
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The topic is sinless perfection.
I believe we can stop sinning in this life and I have never obtained more peace than when I finally submitted to the idea that we can stop sinning. And, I've never obtained more victory over sin than through the fear of the Lord.
So, you can CLAIM he is speaking about demonic condemnation. But, I'm telling you that it is being taught that the conviction of the HS is demonic condemnation.
How do I know? Because we have tests in scripture. And, once again the topic is vs sinless perfection.
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The fruit of the Spirit requires tilling up the fallow ground (conviction), planting the seed (word of God), watering (blessing/grace), weeding and removing stones (removing sin), and God causes the growth and gives as He decides.
THEN you receive fruit.
I know the difference between a OSAS lifestyles and a Holiness lifestyle.
Most OSAS adherents don't know what they are missing because they aren't obedient to Christ.
It feels terrifying facing the ways that I am imperfect and cannot fix myself…scarier yet to abandon myself to the love and care of the Father (I struggle to even write MY Fathwr). To trust that He will transform me into who He wants me to be…
One of my favorite Scriptures is Jeremiah 33:3 - Call to me and I will answer you, and will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known. For me the answer has been this verse and several others but we really need to ask God about our perceived or real inadequacies...we need to ask Him! The above verse tells us that. I know for myself, I was always listening to others opinion or judgement of what my life was, even pastors can be misleading as well-meaning as they are. Who knows like God? Who really knows what we should or shouldn't be? Ask Him and He will tell you in the most loving and gentle way. He will tell you and help you to find the right path and help you walk it with Him. You will have so much peace! Like Jesus says, His burden is light...He will give you rest. Ask Him how much you should read, or pray or witness! After all, we will stand before Him and answer for our lives, not our pastor, our neighbor or friends, or mother or father, brother, sister, husband, wife, stranger...we will stand before Christ and give an account to Him. So let's go to Him for the answers to all of our questions and concerns. Nothing is too big or too small. Peace to all.
Mark, you have hit the nail on its head. This spoke directly to me.
Hi Mark. For your slide 3 about not praying, reading the word enough...
How did you get to the place where you were able to know and feel God's love real in your life? How did you get there?
It's not a "get there" but more of a journey.
Thank you for sharing this!
This is sooooo me@
The title should be, "Are You a Perfectionistic Christian?" Perfectionism or being perfectionist is a personality attribute. Christian Perfectionism is a Wesleyan doctrine, also known as entire sanctification.
Perfectionistic tendencies say "I must be perfect."
Christian Perfectionism says, "I can become (or have become) sinless."
It is just Bible.
1John 3:3 And everyone who has this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
1John 3:4 Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.
1John 3:5 And you know that He appeared in order to take away sins; and in Him there is no sin.
1John 3:6 No one who abides in Him sins; no one who sins has seen Him or knows Him.
1John 3:7 Little children, let no one deceive you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous;
1John 3:8 the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
1John 3:9 No one who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
@@JAGChristianos Yes, it's just Bible... badly interpreted.
I needed this I need to get out of perfectionist
Yes to all