Chad is one of the most underrated drummers in the world. His ability is astonishing and his musical scope is immense. He's an incredibly accomplish composer as well. Thank you for sharing
One of the best things that my wife and I had happen was when we saw Allan play in Milwaukee twice many years ago. I don't remember who the drummer was on the gig at Shank Hall but the second time we saw him he was performing with Chad at a drum clinic at Casio Music and Jimmy Johnson was on bass. All I can say is WOW!
Eddie Jobson took Frank Zappa to listen to the record exec listen of the first UK record which Alan played on. Jobson said Frank made "sounds of approval" the whole time.
Wow, Wackerman played w/ Holdsworth for more than 30 years!...wish it could have been even more. It's interesting to see people catching up w/ what Holdsworth was doing. Guys who liked smoking guitar players pretty much only liked the records where he was a hired gun like a really high octane rock guy , (was in this boat for awhile). A.H. will likely never be a household name everywhere, but he certainly expanded the vocabulary of the instrument and influenced thousands of players.
I love Holdsworth, but I also love Zappa and it has been a wonderful life enjoying the music of both with Chad playing drums. Chad is a monster, in my top three goat
@@Coynkydynk Shawn was a prodigious talent for sure. With respect, there was some depth missing to his music which, over time, he could have evolved into. And that makes his early departure all the more tragic. To have watched him grow into old age as a grandmaster of the instrument would have been sublime.
@@FortyHurts I agree wholeheartedly (and I wish the production values were better on his solo releases), but what I commented on was "the most impressive musician", not "composer". While, I guess, it could be argued that composition skills could, perhaps even should, be included in the "musicianship" category, I believe Shawn belongs in the pantheon on his playing and improvisational skills alone. Just unbelievable (as Zappa exclaimed referring to wunder teens Mats and Morgan joining him on stage once).
@@Coynkydynk I was head over heals with Shawn Lane as well (The most talented and fastest guitarist). But I had to come to the conclusion of the 12 (Holdsworth) vs. 3 (Lane) solo albums that each guy produced. Had Shawn lived a bit longer and put a dozen albums under his name like Holdsworth, then I could rank him above him on electric guitar. But there are too many musical moments that Holdsworth gave that outweigh Lane's. But let me tell you when HLS was doing there trio thing in the mid 90's, I thought it was the greatest trio in the world. Shawn Lane had no limits, except for time here on earth.
I got to play with Chad quite a bit back in our HS days in Huntington Beach. I went to Edison and he was at Huntington Bch HS. But we’d play together at the local junior colleges as high school students. I remember I made the Monterey All Star Jazz Festival HS band as a bassist in 1977 my senior year. Chad had been the drummer for the prior 3 years so I was really looking forward to playing with him there. But due to politics and complaining parents he wasn’t chosen his senior year. I don’t even remember the guy I played with there, and he was good, but not even on the same planet as Chad. Chad ended up the house drummer for the festival that year anyway! Lol We were so lucky to have some amazing young musicians in Orange County back then like Chad, Eric Marienthal, Mike Plumbly and Brandon Fields just to name a few. I’ve played with some of the best drummers in the world over my 40 plus years but nobody could hold a candle to Chad. Best I’ve ever had the honor of playing with. Good to see he’s doing well.
Allíen Holdsworth,vino de otra galaxia,su música, composición,sus armonías,progresión de acordes y lo más relevante para mi que soy guitarrista es su desarrollo en los solos,su sonidos,timbres, alturas,pianissimo,de otro mundo y Chad Wackerman fue uno de los que leyó mejor su música,son increíble,hay un tema de Chad " Tell Me" maravilloso.
Two different band leaders with quite a spectrum of what they hear..different work ethics...if you were hired the only demands were what you placed on yourself presumably.....
I met Allan in 1987. Even though he was depressed because his synthaxe wasn't working properly, he was still very nice and took the time to talk with my friend and I and took a photo with us. Amazing human being. Genius.
In my 74 yrs on this earth I’ve played guitar, keys, drums, …. I’ve heard/seen multiple musicians play. Holdsworth may very well be the best elec. guitarist of all time IMHO.
Music isn’t a competition? allan wasnt leagues ahead of anyone and certainly not coltrane. This whole business where we think the artist we like is the best is terribly odd don’t you agree?
@@jimreplicant Allan surpassed Coltrane in all respects. All due respect. I LOVE Coltrane. But as a soloist, and _especially_ as a composer, Allan's genius was leagues beyond all humans, not only Coltrane.
@@lex.cordis Nope, that is just your ill informed opinion. You’re welcome to reduce the arts into a competition all you want but all you’ve done is just create some arbitrary rules based on what you like🤣
@@jimreplicant LOL Buddy, you were the one that started out by saying that Allan didn't surpass Coltrane (which is untrue anyway), so you had already started us on the path of "competition." It wasn't me. You already acknowledged, albeit inadvertently, that there is a measurement to compare against. Allan clearly surpassed it. Coltrane had a sphere of music/sound that he fit into and it was relatively familiar to his time. Allan was a universe all his own with no discernible influence, especially compositionally. You cannot say any of that for Coltrane.
@@lex.cordis What on earth are you talking about? Go read your ignorant original post where you say allan is LY ahead of every musician or whatever non sense you claimed🤣 Stop accusing me of something your doing that I’m calling you out on… child
exactly...holdsworth wanted you to play and bring out yourself..of course...thats what we all did as kids in my neighborhood.(NW SIDE -DETROIT).was jaM...SO WE COULD GET A FEELING OF HOW YOU INTERACT WITH OTHER MUSICIANS doing all sorst of musical things......like martial arts-like team sports...what do you bring to the team..''.let's see what cha got!!'' which Tony who influenced holdsworth, had all that leeway with miles davis... its addictive! feels funny when you are FREEE
I've been around guitar players, including me, all my life. It's the only thing I've ever known. And every single one of 'em/us, everybody's brother, their brother's sister, aunts, and uncles, have an opinion on the subject. Count on it! .. Now, we see Chad Wackernan. What is it about the elaborate construction, and I do mean elaborate, of the drums' set does Chad hear and feel? Are guitar players actually too stupid to know that drums don't have a difficult to acquire tone and sound, just like guitar players don't have, or claim to actually have? What is it in Chad's set up, that he wants? What is it that Chad doesn't like? So many guitar players have driven that issue with our instrument into the ground so many times, I'm way past weary of it all. Why have I neglected the particular intricacies and, more accurately, taken for granted the sound, tone, and feel, that drums have, or can have? Or, what the drummer wants to have? An instrument I've taken for granted my entire life, and an instrument about which I haven't the first clue.
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Allan was probably the best guitarist to have ever lived, and Chad is a master in his own right!
and what a GREAT SURNAME for a drummer..... WHACKER-MAN, indeed.......
probably?
I feel like if I'm in a conversation and Allan isnt considered at LEAST in the top 1?? they just don't understand guitar or music well enough
Chad is one of the most underrated drummers in the world. His ability is astonishing and his musical scope is immense. He's an incredibly accomplish composer as well. Thank you for sharing
One of the best things that my wife and I had happen was when we saw Allan play in Milwaukee twice many years ago. I don't remember who the drummer was on the gig at Shank Hall but the second time we saw him he was performing with Chad at a drum clinic at Casio Music and Jimmy Johnson was on bass. All I can say is WOW!
I love these insights. It’s great to hear the interactions and thought processes between genuine superstars.
I love all the Chad solo albums. So glad he got Allan to play on a lot of that stuff. .
that was some Alan's best playing too imo, he let loose more
Eddie Jobson took Frank Zappa to listen to the record exec listen of the first UK record which Alan played on. Jobson said Frank made "sounds of approval" the whole time.
I’m rediscovering Allan and inspired by every note - and every word said about him. Thank you.
Wow, Wackerman played w/ Holdsworth for more than 30 years!...wish it could have been even more. It's interesting to see people catching up w/ what Holdsworth was doing. Guys who liked smoking guitar players pretty much only liked the records where he was a hired gun like a really high octane rock guy , (was in this boat for awhile). A.H. will likely never be a household name everywhere, but he certainly expanded the vocabulary of the instrument and influenced thousands of players.
I love Holdsworth, but I also love Zappa and it has been a wonderful life enjoying the music of both with Chad playing drums. Chad is a monster, in my top three goat
Together with Jaco, Allan was the most impressive musician this world experienced.
Shawn Lane
@@Coynkydynk Shawn was a prodigious talent for sure. With respect, there was some depth missing to his music which, over time, he could have evolved into. And that makes his early departure all the more tragic. To have watched him grow into old age as a grandmaster of the instrument would have been sublime.
@@FortyHurts I agree wholeheartedly (and I wish the production values were better on his solo releases), but what I commented on was "the most impressive musician", not "composer".
While, I guess, it could be argued that composition skills could, perhaps even should, be included in the "musicianship" category, I believe Shawn belongs in the pantheon on his playing and improvisational skills alone. Just unbelievable (as Zappa exclaimed referring to wunder teens Mats and Morgan joining him on stage once).
@@Coynkydynk My comment is in regard to him as a musician.
@@Coynkydynk I was head over heals with Shawn Lane as well (The most talented and fastest guitarist). But I had to come to the conclusion of the 12 (Holdsworth) vs. 3 (Lane) solo albums that each guy produced. Had Shawn lived a bit longer and put a dozen albums under his name like Holdsworth, then I could rank him above him on electric guitar. But there are too many musical moments that Holdsworth gave that outweigh Lane's. But let me tell you when HLS was doing there trio thing in the mid 90's, I thought it was the greatest trio in the world. Shawn Lane had no limits, except for time here on earth.
I got to play with Chad quite a bit back in our HS days in Huntington Beach. I went to Edison and he was at Huntington Bch HS. But we’d play together at the local junior colleges as high school students. I remember I made the Monterey All Star Jazz Festival HS band as a bassist in 1977 my senior year. Chad had been the drummer for the prior 3 years so I was really looking forward to playing with him there. But due to politics and complaining parents he wasn’t chosen his senior year. I don’t even remember the guy I played with there, and he was good, but not even on the same planet as Chad. Chad ended up the house drummer for the festival that year anyway! Lol We were so lucky to have some amazing young musicians in Orange County back then like Chad, Eric Marienthal, Mike Plumbly and Brandon Fields just to name a few. I’ve played with some of the best drummers in the world over my 40 plus years but nobody could hold a candle to Chad. Best I’ve ever had the honor of playing with. Good to see he’s doing well.
Legendary!! Love this.❤
Wonderful chad beautiful career with forward thinking musicians 😀
magnifico.💣💣💣💣💣💣
Legendary
Met you, Chad, when you were sitting at the bar with Alan when playing a 3x night gig at the Town Pump in Vancouver 86.
Allíen Holdsworth,vino de otra galaxia,su música, composición,sus armonías,progresión de acordes y lo más relevante para mi que soy guitarrista es su desarrollo en los solos,su sonidos,timbres, alturas,pianissimo,de otro mundo y Chad Wackerman fue uno de los que leyó mejor su música,son increíble,hay un tema de Chad " Tell Me" maravilloso.
Two different band leaders with quite a spectrum of what they hear..different work ethics...if you were hired the only demands were what you placed on yourself presumably.....
I met Allan in 1987. Even though he was depressed because his synthaxe wasn't working properly, he was still very nice and took the time to talk with my friend and I and took a photo with us. Amazing human being. Genius.
Made my day. Thank you.
Wow, just wow
awesome
81,84 and 88 Zappa nothing else to say...
1982 as well
In my 74 yrs on this earth I’ve played guitar, keys, drums, …. I’ve heard/seen multiple musicians play. Holdsworth may very well be the best elec. guitarist of all time IMHO.
Chad is soooooo over looked, probably one of my favourite drummers of ALL time.
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Allan is in the leagues of Stravinsky and Ravel. To me he is LY ahead of jazz musicians like Colteane etc.
Music isn’t a competition? allan wasnt leagues ahead of anyone and certainly not coltrane. This whole business where we think the artist we like is the best is terribly odd don’t you agree?
@@jimreplicant Allan surpassed Coltrane in all respects. All due respect. I LOVE Coltrane. But as a soloist, and _especially_ as a composer, Allan's genius was leagues beyond all humans, not only Coltrane.
@@lex.cordis Nope, that is just your ill informed opinion. You’re welcome to reduce the arts into a competition all you want but all you’ve done is just create some arbitrary rules based on what you like🤣
@@jimreplicant LOL Buddy, you were the one that started out by saying that Allan didn't surpass Coltrane (which is untrue anyway), so you had already started us on the path of "competition." It wasn't me. You already acknowledged, albeit inadvertently, that there is a measurement to compare against. Allan clearly surpassed it. Coltrane had a sphere of music/sound that he fit into and it was relatively familiar to his time. Allan was a universe all his own with no discernible influence, especially compositionally. You cannot say any of that for Coltrane.
@@lex.cordis What on earth are you talking about? Go read your ignorant original post where you say allan is LY ahead of every musician or whatever non sense you claimed🤣 Stop accusing me of something your doing that I’m calling you out on… child
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exactly...holdsworth wanted you to play and bring out yourself..of course...thats what we all did as kids in my neighborhood.(NW SIDE -DETROIT).was jaM...SO WE COULD GET A FEELING OF HOW YOU INTERACT WITH OTHER MUSICIANS doing all sorst of musical things......like martial arts-like team sports...what do you bring to the team..''.let's see what cha got!!'' which Tony who influenced holdsworth, had all that leeway with miles davis... its addictive! feels funny when you are FREEE
deacon chad....!
I've been around guitar players, including me, all my life. It's the only thing I've ever known. And every single one of 'em/us, everybody's brother, their brother's sister, aunts, and uncles, have an opinion on the subject. Count on it! .. Now, we see Chad Wackernan. What is it about the elaborate construction, and I do mean elaborate, of the drums' set does Chad hear and feel? Are guitar players actually too stupid to know that drums don't have a difficult to acquire tone and sound, just like guitar players don't have, or claim to actually have? What is it in Chad's set up, that he wants? What is it that Chad doesn't like? So many guitar players have driven that issue with our instrument into the ground so many times, I'm way past weary of it all. Why have I neglected the particular intricacies and, more accurately, taken for granted the sound, tone, and feel, that drums have, or can have? Or, what the drummer wants to have? An instrument I've taken for granted my entire life, and an instrument about which I haven't the first clue.
Those self imposed demands are probably what drove him to drinking. Poor guy - what a tortured psyche.